for an intro to Apple products with VoiceOver, check also VisionAustralia's podcasts: http://www.visionaustralia.org/info.aspx?page=2287#contentstart
very simple and easy to follow, but with a aussie accent :-) HTH, André On Dec 18, 2010, at 10:41 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: > Thanks so much for this. I guess I need to understand more about what some > of the things mean. For example, (and I have not looked at the url you sent > yet), but in the commands help area there's a command that says something > like move a bit left or move a bit right. Now intuitively, I know what those > words mean but I'll be darned if I know when to use them. That's what I mean > when I say for a new Mac user, I wish Apple had been a bit more descriptive. > But, I'm not complaining and I'm not giving up. > > Marlaina > > > On Dec 18, 2010, at 2:21 PM, Andre Nuno Soares wrote: > > Marlaina, > > It's not like "press alt f4 to shut the door", but I find Appendix A of the > VoiceOver guide very useful as a kind of cheat sheet: > http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/_1131.html > > > HTH, > André > > On Dec 18, 2010, at 1:28 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: > >> Ah, I did that and it worked. Wow, I knew about command shift h but forgot >> I knew it. Using that and command shift k, I can get easily from my Netgear >> and my mac files. I wish there were some really good tutorials available >> that would help drill some of this stuff into newbies or oldbies like me. >> When I use to teach windows, I'd use little sayings with my students like >> press alt f4 to shut the door; this helped them remember. I can't come up >> with any such little cutesy things for the Mac OS. It's hard to remember >> all these things if you don't use them on a regular basis. But, obviously >> many of you have done just that. Any tips and tricks to start remembering >> all this stuff would be really appreciated. But, command shift h is one >> I'll never forget again! >> >> Marlaina >> >> >> On Dec 17, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> You have to be in an area with folders files or apps besides the desktop. >> So from your finder, press command shift H, to go to your user folder. Now >> press command 3 and voiceover will announce column checked. >> >> hth >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >> >> >> >> On Dec 17, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote: >> >>> Ok so when in finder, I pressed command 3 but vo didn't say anything. >>> Should it have said column mode? >>> >>> Marlaina >>> On Dec 16, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: >>> >>> Riczrdo: You may ave solved for me the silly issue I've had wondering why >>> some things and folders don't work the way they did. Obviously, I haven't >>> yet mastered the modes thingie very well in terms of knowing what works >>> best. >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Carolyn H >>> On Dec 16, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I use column mode myself. with this, pressing right arrow to open, and >>>> left arrow to close a folder, works 100% of the time. From the finder you >>>> can press command 3 to display finder contents in column mode. >>>> >>>> hth >>>> >>>> Ricardo Walker >>>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >>>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 16, 2010, at 1:51 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: >>>> >>>>> You can use the right arrow to open a folder in browser or list view mode >>>>> of a finder window. They behave a little differently though, in list >>>>> mode the list gets longer and in browser mode you get moved over a >>>>> column. >>>>> >>>>> Rading a description of browser mode would probably be hhelpful to folks >>>>> that do a lot of scanning through folders. I will try to explain... >>>>> >>>>> In browser mode there are three or four columns available. The left most >>>>> column is the highest in the set of folders currently visible. If one >>>>> turns on "preview" mode for the browser then the right most column will >>>>> have a Large icon of the folder and a bit more directory / file >>>>> information (including I believe a "start playing" button for A/V files. >>>>> What I reallylike about the browser mode, is that if you hit right arrow >>>>> to view a folder hitting left arrow will bring you to the enclosing folde >>>>> inwith the folder you just left selected. So if I am looking at >>>>> "Library/Application Support/Apple" and hit a right arrow "Apple" will be >>>>> selected and I can hit down arrow to see what the next item in >>>>> "Library/Application Support" is. in a finder or window or a file >>>>> selection dialog box, hitting command-3 will put you in browser mode. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Jon >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 16 December 2010 12:33, Marlaina Lieberg <1guide...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> It seems like at level 0 you have to do cmd down arrow but at 1 or 2 you >>>>> do right arrow, I tried to discover a consistent pattern with this but >>>>> thus far always at 0 cmd down arrow will open. >>>>> >>>>> Marlaina >>>>> On Dec 16, 2010, at 6:22 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Jim: >>>>> Try using commando to open the folder. Or, also, command-down-arrow will >>>>> open the folder for you. I believe there's something that gets tweeked >>>>> and changes this pattern of interaction. Because, there are times when >>>>> simply right arrowing will open a folder, and there are other times it >>>>> needs the command-o. >>>>> HTH >>>>> Carolyn Haas >>>>> On Dec 15, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Jim Barbour wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Howdy Folks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Using voice over, I'm trying to bring up a terminal, which is in the >>>>>> applications folder. So far, I'm failing to figure out how to >>>>>> navigate into and around the Applications folder. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can someone let me know how to go about this? >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's what I've tried so far... >>>>>> >>>>>> VO + d to go to the dock >>>>>> VO + right arrow several times until I hear "applications folder" >>>>>> VO + space to open the folder. >>>>>> >>>>>> At this point, I can see there's a window on the screen, and if I >>>>>> use the arrow keys to move around inside it, I can see that different >>>>>> icons are being highlighted. However, VO does not speak. If I use VO >>>>>> + arrow keys, voice over acts as if I'm still in the doc, even though >>>>>> I've opened this window. >>>>>> >>>>>> All help would be much appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Jim >>>>>> >>>>>> -- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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