Hello all, John Gruber has a great collection of pointers on this subject: http://daringfireball.net/
Two of the most interesting: http://chipotle.tumblr.com/post/4781767278/dont-panic-but-look-a-little-nervous http://ihnatko.com/2011/04/20/hey-wonderful-theres-a-location-tracking-file-on-my-iphone/ Cheers, André On Apr 23, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Aman Singer wrote: > Hi, Mike. > You write >> Also, what people don't realize is that all smart phones do this, not just >> apple. Android does, and most likely, blackberries do too. So, it's not just >> an Apple thing. > > I'm not quite sure what you mean by "this", but you seem to be saying > that Android and iOS are doing the same thing. With respect, I don't > think this is correct, and would appreciate it if you could point out > how you know this. the iOS system is logging all appearances of > cellular towers, as well as more specific data when it can get it, > since the install of the operating system. Android is, so far as I > know, caching the last fifty unique towers connected to and the last > 200 wireless network names/locations seen. Considering that there are > many cellular towers and even more wireless networks in the average > city, this cache may last anywhere from a few hours to a few weeks. If > you back up your phone, the iOS log may last months if not years, and > even if you don't back up your phone, the log may last months. Also, > the iOS log identifies repeated appearances of the same towers. That > is, if you go to work and then return home, the iOS log will log when > you see the towers on the way to work and then will log those same > towers again on the way back. The Android Cache will not do this. > There is a great deal more of a legitimate use for the Android Cache > than there is for the iOS log, as I understand it. If you have heard > differently, I'd love to hear of it. Note that I am not able to verify > what I've said above about Android, I don't have an Android device > here to try with. What I'm saying is only what I've read. > Aman > > On 4/23/11, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: >> Also, what people don't realize is that all smart phones do this, not just >> apple. Android does, and most likely, blackberries do too. So, it's not just >> an Apple thing. >> On Apr 22, 2011, at 6:09 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: >> >>> Oh, great! So, just don't go where you don't belong, and what's the big >>> scare here? Maybe I'm overly Apple loyal. But, really, do we all have so >>> many secret places we go? What about onstar? That lovely service that >>> can respond in minutes to your emergency with the push of a button. Quite >>> honestly, I don't think a single soul would benefit from knowing where >>> i've been or where I'm going. >>> I get the feeling someone's looking at Apple's profits and wanting a >>> piece of the Apple pie. >>> >>> On Apr 22, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>> >>>> We talked about the pop up ad possibility a while back, now it seems >>>> apple is gathering data on your whereabouts? >>>> here is the story. >>>> TVBizwire >>>> >>>> >>>> Researchers Say Apple Is Tracking Locations of Mobile Device >>>> Users betanews >>>> >>>> A team of researchers says Apple is secretly obtaining the >>>> locations of iOS4 users and recording them in a hidden file, >>>> according to a betanews.com report. >>>> >>>> Two of the researchers, Alasdair Allan and Peter Warden of >>>> O'Reilly Media, presented their findings today at the Where 2.0 >>>> conference in Santa Clara, Calif. >>>> >>>> According to the story, the revelation raises "obvious privacy >>>> concerns and questions as to why Apple would be storing such >>>> information. The researchers believe it is intentional, as the >>>> file is restored after backups and even when the user switches to >>>> a new device." >>>> >>>> The group says the functionality is apparently new to iOS4, the >>>> mobile operating system that runs the latest iPad, iPhone and >>>> iPod touch. The researchers have reportedly tried to contact >>>> Apple's security team but had yet to hear back from the company. >>>> The story reports: "Allan says that the existence of the file on >>>> on your computer is a security risk, as it is both unprotected >>>> and un encrypted. `It can also be easily accessed on the device >>>> itself if it falls into the wrong hands,' he wrote in a blog >>>> post. `Anybody with access to this file knows where you've been >>>> over the last year, since iOS4 was released.'" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/tvbizwire/2011/04/researchers-say-apple-is-track.php >>>> >>>> http://api.recaptcha.net/noscript?k=6Lcb_78SAAAAAHmtN74lHVK-IOutZhLRidl4tCzl >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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