Re: Twitter bands third party apps.

[Luis antónio Marques Caetano]

Hi Karen, and sorry for intervening.
Reading your very first message, the very beginning of the article you
posted reads:

-
   #TechCrunch » Feed TechCrunch » Comments Feed TechCrunch » Twitter
officially bans third-party clients after cutting off prominent devs
   Comments Feed alternate alternate alternate

Twitter officially bans third-party clients after cutting off prominent devs

   Kyle Wiggers 1 week
--

I'd say that "1 week" part is the age of the article.

2023-01-28 21:38 GMT, Karen Lewellen :
> Again, I cannot speak to your experience.
>
>
>
> On Sat, 28 Jan 2023, Herbie Allen wrote:
>
>> The article I’m referring too is one from the Verge about a week ago. It
>> indicated that Twitter had updated it’s terms. This was days after they
>> ppulled the support.
>>
>>> On Jan 28, 2023, at 15:21, Karen Lewellen 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I cannot speak to your speculations.
>>> however, given the article's publication date is 27 Jan, your reading
>>> before  publication is unlikely.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 28 Jan 2023, Herbie Allen wrote:
>>>
 I did, it looks like an article I read about a week ago that also said
 Twitter updated it’s terms. All I know is that right now, Tweesecake
 still works and when I was on Windows TWBlue still did. Maybe they’ll
 drop tomorrow, maybe they won’t. Twiter did let me authorize an account
 the other day on Tweesecake which surprised me. I’m wondering if there
 is a difference between apps who have paid for access to Twitters API.
 All you can do is enjoy your third-party ap while it works.

> On Jan 28, 2023, at 15:08, Karen Lewellen 
> wrote:
>
> Did you read the article?
> The difference here is that now it is an *official* part of developer
> policy, instead of Twitter leading up to the change.
>
>
>
> On Sat, 28 Jan 2023, Herbie Allen wrote:
>
>> That has been the nature of things since Twitter started pulling the
>> Third-party support.
>>
>>> On Jan 27, 2023, at 23:50, Karen Lewellen 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The policy change is dated for 27 Jan, that means anything working
>>> today, will  not be working for long.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 27 Jan 2023, Herbie Allen wrote:
>>>
 It’s been that way for a week. Some things are still working though
 like Tweesecake and TWBlue.

> On Jan 27, 2023, at 11:06, Karen Lewellen
>  wrote:
>
> Its official, see the article below.
> #TechCrunch » Feed TechCrunch » Comments Feed TechCrunch » Twitter
> officially bans third-party clients after cutting off prominent
> devs
> Comments Feed alternate alternate alternate
>
> Twitter officially bans third-party clients after cutting off
> prominent devs
>
> Kyle Wiggers 1 week
>
> After cutting off prominent app makers like Tweetbot and
> Twitterific,
> Twitter today quietly updated its developer terms to ban
> third-party
> clients altogether.
>
> Spotted by Engadget, the "restrictions" section of Twitter's
> 5,000-some-word developer agreement was updated with a clause
> prohibiting "use or access the Licensed Materials to create or
> attempt
> to create a substitute or similar service or product to the
> Twitter
> Applications." Earlier this week, Twitter said that it was
> "enforcing
> long-standing API rules" in disallowing clients access to its
> platform
> but didn't cite which specific rules developers were violating. Now
> we
> know -- retroactively.
>
> As Engadget notes, Twitter clients are a part of Twitter history
> --
> Twitterific was created before Twitter had a native iOS app of its
> own.
> And they've gained a larger following in recent years, thanks in
> part
> to their lack of ads.
>
> Twitter's attitude toward third-party clients has long been
> permissive
> and even supportive, with the company going so far as to remove a
> section from its developer terms that discouraged devs from
> replicating
> its core service. But that seems to have changed under CEO Elon
> Musk's
> leadership.
>
> Twitter dev terms
>
> Image Credits: Twitter
>
> The decision seems unlikely to foster goodwill toward Twitter at a
> time
> when the platform faces challenges on a number of fronts. In a
> blog
> post, Twitterrific's Sean Heber called Twitter "increasingly
> capricious" and a company he "no longer recognize[d] as trustworthy
> nor
> want to work with any longer." Matteo Villa, the developer of
> Fenix, in
> an interview

Display for Mac Mini

['Adrienne Chalmers' via MacVisionaries]

Guys,

Considering ditching the iMac and getting a Mac Mini. I know you can use them 
without a display, but it’s useful to have one in case of the need of being 
rescued by a sighted person etc.

As I am totally blind, I know nothing about displays. Can anyone advise the 
least specs I can get away with please? All the recommendations I see are for 
4k 28 inch monsters and I think that’s a bit over the top. Or do I mean I’m too 
mean to shell out for one if I don’t have to?

Thanks in advance

Adrienne

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Re: Display for Mac Mini

['Mary Ward' via MacVisionaries]

Any old cheap one.

Mary Ward

On Jan 29, 2023, at 6:57 AM, 'Adrienne Chalmers' via MacVisionaries 
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Guys,

Considering ditching the iMac and getting a Mac Mini. I know you can use them 
without a display, but it’s useful to have one in case of the need of being 
rescued by a sighted person etc.

As I am totally blind, I know nothing about displays. Can anyone advise the 
least specs I can get away with please? All the recommendations I see are for 
4k 28 inch monsters and I think that’s a bit over the top. Or do I mean I’m too 
mean to shell out for one if I don’t have to?

Thanks in advance

Adrienne

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Re: Display for Mac Mini

[Rollin Hippler]

Hello Adrienne,


When I got my Mac Mini, I wondered about the same issue.  I decided that 
because a display wasn't going to get a lot of focus on it, I went with 
the lease expensive model I could find that had an HDMI connection.  I 
ended up spending about $100.00 for an LG model.



In those rare occasions when I do need sighted assistance, it works great.


All the best,

Rollin

On 1/29/2023 7:57 AM, 'Adrienne Chalmers' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Guys,

Considering ditching the iMac and getting a Mac Mini. I know you can use them 
without a display, but it’s useful to have one in case of the need of being 
rescued by a sighted person etc.

As I am totally blind, I know nothing about displays. Can anyone advise the 
least specs I can get away with please? All the recommendations I see are for 
4k 28 inch monsters and I think that’s a bit over the top. Or do I mean I’m too 
mean to shell out for one if I don’t have to?

Thanks in advance

Adrienne



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Re: Smart light bulbs?

['Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries]

Dear Donna, Jeff, All:

I have been intentionally buying from several different vendors for
reasons of research relating to developing guidance to the wider
industry through World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) publications where I'm
involved on behalf of accessibility concerns. While it's been a often
frustrating process for me, this has yielded some useful
conclusions--but that's all I think I need to say on that aspect of your
question.

Here's the important point ...

Once whatever devices you install are installed and configured via your
smart device, (phone, Ipad, etc), your accessibility is going to work.
Getting to that point can be a significant challenge.

Whether it's the Apple Home interface, or even Google Home running on
your IOS device, you'll know whether the light is on, and you'll be
easily able to toggle them on and off. The phone endpoint of this
technology works well. Siri, Google Assistant, Alexa, Curtana, any one
of these can also be your friend if you prefer to speak.

The trick is getting things to that point, and that's where the problems
live. You mention the challenge of wiring installations as a concern
over Jeff's strategy. Well the software from the various manufacturers
that you need to use to configure lightbulbs, switches, thermostats,
etc., etc., is all over the map from an accessibility point of view.

Phillips is a good choice for this reason. But you need to plan for yet
another small device sitting on a shelf somewhere, because your phone
needs to talk to it, and then it talks to Phillips Hue bulbs.
Fortunately this is a pretty accessible path by all reports. I didn't go
there personally.

There are lightbulbs that will undoubtedly meet your needs, and there
are dizzying combinations and versions each of which seemingly uses a
different app for initial configuration before you get to the point of
handing off control to the home app.  If you experience a longish power
option, you may need to use that app again to restore the configuration.
This happened to me a couple months ago when our power was out for
around 7-8 hours.


There is good news on the horizon summarized nicely in this article:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/moorinsights/2022/01/11/ces-2022-matter-and-thread-win-the-iot-connectivity-wars/

My conclusion, wait and look for devices that say they support Thread
and Matter. That's hardly anything on the shelf today, but this should
change pretty soon. Meanwhile, all the old, not at all accessible app
based direct wifi devices will stay on the shelves until someone buys
them, even if they're a decade olde. You really don't want to go there,
unless you have enough vision left to deal with not very accessible
middleware apps.

You need to identify your needs. You need a certain amount of light? Buy
a bulb and put it in a lamp. This is a small investment to test whether
the 60 watt LED really is less light than the old fashioned 100 watt
incadescent. My guess is that it will work fine--but you need to judge.

Beyond that, I suspect your goal is to be able to control them. For me,
with no usable vision over such things, it has to do with control in my
entryway for delivery people, and with another lamp for lighting Zoom
calls in the evening.

Whatever your scenario, you also need to plan for how you manage
reconfiguration in software because sooner or later you'll need to deal
with that. You may not need to physically screw in the bulb all over
again, but you will sooner or later need to reconfigure the connection
to your very accessible Apple (Google or Microsoft) aggregating app,.

I hope this makes sense! Feel free to write any questions.

PS: My education started with a thermostat. I had a Nest 2 installed.
Last winter, when it lost network connectivity because of a slightly
longish Internet outage in my building, I was very cold. Rebooting the
thermostat required managing an inaccessible touch screen on the device.
Recharging its battery meant taking it off the wall and finding the
USB-A port inside. Not very blind friendly.

Long story short, I chucked the Nest 2 and went to a Nest 3. Now, when I
go down, and that happens a couple times a year though not often, I
simply pull it off the wall, test the pair of AAA batteries that power
it, and replace it onto the wall where it's connected to my HVAC system.
Takes maybe a minute or two and the heat is back on.

Best,

Janina

Jeff Berwick writes:
> Phillips Hue are the best and I have several of them.  Recently, over 
> Christmas, I switched a lot of my smart lighting to in-wall switches.  I went 
> with the Lutron Diva, which is part of the Caseta line.
> 
> If you go with in-wall, you will need to install them.  The nice thing about 
> the in-wall switch is that you have control over your lighting with 
> automation, and the luddite  in your family can still use a rocker switch to 
> turn lights on and off. ;)
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> > On Jan 28, 2023, at 8:54 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > H

Re: Creating keyboard shortcuts for an app.

['Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries]

Hi, yess.
menu in a specific application

> On Jan 28, 2023, at 2:24 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I’m not sure what you are attempting to do. Are you trying to add a 
> keyboard shortcut for a menu in a specific application?
> Or are you trying to get a shortcut in the shortcuts app to have a keyboard 
> shortcut.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2023, at 1:56 PM, 'Matt Turner' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks.
>> As the subject says, I’m trying to do this with foobar2000.
>> The shortcut I want to add is called. Load Playlist …
>> I’ve written that in the menu, and added the key I wanted, but still know 
>> luck.
>> Anyone have any ideas?
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Re: Smart light bulbs?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Janina,

All I can say is wow, and thank you!  Thank you for putting yourself through 
all that frustration so that the rest of us can benefit from your knowledge.  
We had a couple of LifeX bulbs in our last house, so I know a bit about those 
inaccessible apps that you have to configure, and have no interest in 
revisiting that experience.

Your advice makes a ton of sense.  We’re actually replacing some of our Wemo 
smart plugs with the newer version that supports thread, so waiting and getting 
lightbulbs that do the same makes sense.  Smart lightbulbs are expensive enough 
that I don’t want to buy anything that I’m just going to want to replace a year 
or two from now.

Thanks also for sharing your experience with the Nest 3.  We had the Nest 2 in 
our last house, and I had experiences similar to yours when for whatever reason 
it lost power or went offline.  When we moved into this house a couple of years 
ago, we installed two Ecobee thermostats.  I’m not in love with them.  I think 
the app is clunky to use, and the unit itself is a touch surface, so is 
completely inaccessible.  So I’m glad to hear that you are happier with the 
Nest 3.  I’ll keep that in mind if I ever get irritated enough to kick the 
Ecobees to the curb.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Jan 29, 2023, at 7:29 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear Donna, Jeff, All:
> 
> I have been intentionally buying from several different vendors for
> reasons of research relating to developing guidance to the wider
> industry through World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) publications where I'm
> involved on behalf of accessibility concerns. While it's been a often
> frustrating process for me, this has yielded some useful
> conclusions--but that's all I think I need to say on that aspect of your
> question.
> 
> Here's the important point ...
> 
> Once whatever devices you install are installed and configured via your
> smart device, (phone, Ipad, etc), your accessibility is going to work.
> Getting to that point can be a significant challenge.
> 
> Whether it's the Apple Home interface, or even Google Home running on
> your IOS device, you'll know whether the light is on, and you'll be
> easily able to toggle them on and off. The phone endpoint of this
> technology works well. Siri, Google Assistant, Alexa, Curtana, any one
> of these can also be your friend if you prefer to speak.
> 
> The trick is getting things to that point, and that's where the problems
> live. You mention the challenge of wiring installations as a concern
> over Jeff's strategy. Well the software from the various manufacturers
> that you need to use to configure lightbulbs, switches, thermostats,
> etc., etc., is all over the map from an accessibility point of view.
> 
> Phillips is a good choice for this reason. But you need to plan for yet
> another small device sitting on a shelf somewhere, because your phone
> needs to talk to it, and then it talks to Phillips Hue bulbs.
> Fortunately this is a pretty accessible path by all reports. I didn't go
> there personally.
> 
> There are lightbulbs that will undoubtedly meet your needs, and there
> are dizzying combinations and versions each of which seemingly uses a
> different app for initial configuration before you get to the point of
> handing off control to the home app.  If you experience a longish power
> option, you may need to use that app again to restore the configuration.
> This happened to me a couple months ago when our power was out for
> around 7-8 hours.
> 
> 
> There is good news on the horizon summarized nicely in this article:
> 
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/moorinsights/2022/01/11/ces-2022-matter-and-thread-win-the-iot-connectivity-wars/
> 
> My conclusion, wait and look for devices that say they support Thread
> and Matter. That's hardly anything on the shelf today, but this should
> change pretty soon. Meanwhile, all the old, not at all accessible app
> based direct wifi devices will stay on the shelves until someone buys
> them, even if they're a decade olde. You really don't want to go there,
> unless you have enough vision left to deal with not very accessible
> middleware apps.
> 
> You need to identify your needs. You need a certain amount of light? Buy
> a bulb and put it in a lamp. This is a small investment to test whether
> the 60 watt LED really is less light than the old fashioned 100 watt
> incadescent. My guess is that it will work fine--but you need to judge.
> 
> Beyond that, I suspect your goal is to be able to control them. For me,
> with no usable vision over such things, it has to do with control in my
> entryway for delivery people, and with another lamp for lighting Zoom
> calls in the evening.
> 
> Whatever your scenario, you also need to plan for how you manage
> reconfiguration in software because sooner or later you'll need to deal
> with that. You may not need to physically screw in the bulb all over
> again, but you will sooner or later need to reconfigure the connec

Help using Time Machine

[mr.robertcole via MacVisionaries]

Dear Group,
I am using Mac OS Monterey.
Today I opened my CheckBook Pro app and to my surprise, It was showing my last 
transactions was December 29th 2022.
I guess there was a iCloud sync problem between my Big Sur & my Monterey.
So I have a Time Machine backup from January 22, 2023.
When I enter Time Machine, it places me on the Desktop. I cant figure out how 
to navigate to iCloud to find and restore my file.
Can someone point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
Rob

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Re: Has anyone else noticed that dictation in Messages is broken?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Well dictation on the Apple Watch is a hit or miss thing.
It seems for me that it sometimes work and sometimes not.
I’ve given  it up for a while now but maybe I should do feedback report since I 
am on the beta of watchOS.
Bless.
/A

> 28 jan. 2023 kl. 20:20 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Since the recent upgrade, I cannot seem to get dictation to work in messages. 
>  I tap Dictate.  Sometimes I get the haptic feedback to indicate dictation 
> has started, sometimes not.  When I do get it, I try and dictate.  I’ve then 
> tried both double tapping and scrolling down to the bottom and tapping to 
> stop dictation.  The scrolling down to the bottom seems to work, but then 
> when I go back into the message field, there’s no text.  I’m on a series 6.  
> Anyone else experiencing this?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Has anyone else noticed that dictation in Messages is broken?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

I tried Dave’s suggestion of using the two-finger double tap, and that didn’t 
work either.  I’d send a feedback report, but I’m not sure whether it’s a bug, 
or a result of the fact that I’m still using a series 6.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Jan 29, 2023, at 11:41 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Well dictation on the Apple Watch is a hit or miss thing.
> It seems for me that it sometimes work and sometimes not.
> I’ve given  it up for a while now but maybe I should do feedback report since 
> I am on the beta of watchOS.
> Bless.
> /A
> 
>> 28 jan. 2023 kl. 20:20 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Since the recent upgrade, I cannot seem to get dictation to work in 
>> messages.  I tap Dictate.  Sometimes I get the haptic feedback to indicate 
>> dictation has started, sometimes not.  When I do get it, I try and dictate.  
>> I’ve then tried both double tapping and scrolling down to the bottom and 
>> tapping to stop dictation.  The scrolling down to the bottom seems to work, 
>> but then when I go back into the message field, there’s no text.  I’m on a 
>> series 6.  Anyone else experiencing this?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Has anyone else noticed that dictation in Messages is broken?

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
How do I turn on VoiceOver control?
Bless.
/A

> 28 jan. 2023 kl. 22:14 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> :
> 
> Thanks, Maurice.  There is a dictation button in the messages app.  It used 
> to work, even though the interface was a little clunky.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2023, at 3:12 PM, Maurice Mines  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> You might try turning on voice control. Dictation does not happen 
>> automatically, as far as I know. But I think it would be better to turn on 
>> voice control. I think this is done on purpose to keep peoples machines from 
>> turning on dictation by mistake. Or having it start in the background. 
>> Without you knowing that it’s running. I hope this helps.
>> 
>> Please be aware that I am dictating this to my phone. So some of the message 
>> might not appear as it should. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone. 
>> Email, maur...@maurice-amines.com
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>>> On Jan 28, 2023, at 19:20, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Since the recent upgrade, I cannot seem to get dictation to work in 
>>> messages.  I tap Dictate.  Sometimes I get the haptic feedback to indicate 
>>> dictation has started, sometimes not.  When I do get it, I try and dictate. 
>>>  I’ve then tried both double tapping and scrolling down to the bottom and 
>>> tapping to stop dictation.  The scrolling down to the bottom seems to work, 
>>> but then when I go back into the message field, there’s no text.  I’m on a 
>>> series 6.  Anyone else experiencing this?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: Has anyone else noticed that dictation in Messages is broken?

[Dave Carlson]

Donna, Perhaps you first need to engage the edit field with a single finger 
double tap. Then when it says “edit” or indices the beginning or end of the 
edit field, then the to-finger double tap will allow dictation. Second 
to-finger double tap will halt dictation and enter text into that edit field.

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On Jan 29, 2023, at 10:05 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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I tried Dave’s suggestion of using the two-finger double tap, and that didn’t 
work either.  I’d send a feedback report, but I’m not sure whether it’s a bug, 
or a result of the fact that I’m still using a series 6.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Jan 29, 2023, at 11:41 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Well dictation on the Apple Watch is a hit or miss thing.
> It seems for me that it sometimes work and sometimes not.
> I’ve given  it up for a while now but maybe I should do feedback report since 
> I am on the beta of watchOS.
> Bless.
> /A
> 
>> 28 jan. 2023 kl. 20:20 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> :
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Since the recent upgrade, I cannot seem to get dictation to work in 
>> messages.  I tap Dictate.  Sometimes I get the haptic feedback to indicate 
>> dictation has started, sometimes not.  When I do get it, I try and dictate.  
>> I’ve then tried both double tapping and scrolling down to the bottom and 
>> tapping to stop dictation.  The scrolling down to the bottom seems to work, 
>> but then when I go back into the message field, there’s no text.  I’m on a 
>> series 6.  Anyone else experiencing this?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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RE: Help using Time Machine

[Fazil M.]

Is it ok to leave external drive plugged in permenantly to MacbookPro2017 for 
time machine backup?
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: mr.robertcole via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2023 9:31 AM
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Subject: Help using Time Machine

Dear Group,
I am using Mac OS Monterey.
Today I opened my CheckBook Pro app and to my surprise, It was showing my last 
transactions was December 29th 2022.
I guess there was a iCloud sync problem between my Big Sur & my Monterey.
So I have a Time Machine backup from January 22, 2023.
When I enter Time Machine, it places me on the Desktop. I cant figure out how 
to navigate to iCloud to find and restore my file.
Can someone point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
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Re: Has anyone else noticed that dictation in Messages is broken?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Dave,

I did do that, and dictation did activate.  But it only captured two of the 
approximately 20 words I spoke.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Jan 29, 2023, at 12:36 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Donna, Perhaps you first need to engage the edit field with a single finger 
> double tap. Then when it says “edit” or indices the beginning or end of the 
> edit field, then the to-finger double tap will allow dictation. Second 
> to-finger double tap will halt dictation and enter text into that edit field.
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Oregonian, Woodworker, Farfar, Engineer, Musician
> dgcarlson0...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 29, 2023, at 10:05 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> I tried Dave’s suggestion of using the two-finger double tap, and that didn’t 
> work either.  I’d send a feedback report, but I’m not sure whether it’s a 
> bug, or a result of the fact that I’m still using a series 6.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2023, at 11:41 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Well dictation on the Apple Watch is a hit or miss thing.
>> It seems for me that it sometimes work and sometimes not.
>> I’ve given  it up for a while now but maybe I should do feedback report 
>> since I am on the beta of watchOS.
>> Bless.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 28 jan. 2023 kl. 20:20 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Since the recent upgrade, I cannot seem to get dictation to work in 
>>> messages.  I tap Dictate.  Sometimes I get the haptic feedback to indicate 
>>> dictation has started, sometimes not.  When I do get it, I try and dictate. 
>>>  I’ve then tried both double tapping and scrolling down to the bottom and 
>>> tapping to stop dictation.  The scrolling down to the bottom seems to work, 
>>> but then when I go back into the message field, there’s no text.  I’m on a 
>>> series 6.  Anyone else experiencing this?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Simple Text Editors

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Currently I have the Drafts app for iOS and iPadOS. The main feature 
I like about this app is it opens directly to the text area. But right 
now it opens to a prompt to go premium.


   So am curious to know if there is another app like that that is free 
and does not have prompts to go premium. Thanks.


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Re: Simple Text Editors

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For the Mac, I generally just use TextEdit and it works fine for me. I also 
like to use the Notes app for keeping quick notes I want to refer back to later.

For programming I use PHPStorm. But not sure the type of editor you’re looking 
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Re: Simple Text Editors

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   Not even close to what I want but I did neglect to state that I want 
a plain text editor.


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On 1/29/2023 2:39 PM, Brandon Olivares wrote:

For the Mac, I generally just use TextEdit and it works fine for me. I also 
like to use the Notes app for keeping quick notes I want to refer back to later.

For programming I use PHPStorm. But not sure the type of editor you’re looking 
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   Currently I have the Drafts app for iOS and iPadOS. The main feature I like 
about this app is it opens directly to the text area. But right now it opens to 
a prompt to go premium.

   So am curious to know if there is another app like that that is free and 
does not have prompts to go premium. Thanks.

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Re: Simple Text Editors

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi ET,

I have a program on my iPhone and iPad called text editor, and it is just that. 
A simple text editor. I can’t remember what it cost. But I don’t think it was 
horribly expensive.
HTH,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2023, at 5:03 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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>    Not even close to what I want but I did neglect to state that I want a 
> plain text editor.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
> will make violent revolution inevitable."
> --John F. Kennedy
> My e-Mail:
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
>> On 1/29/2023 2:39 PM, Brandon Olivares wrote:
>> For the Mac, I generally just use TextEdit and it works fine for me. I also 
>> like to use the Notes app for keeping quick notes I want to refer back to 
>> later.
>> For programming I use PHPStorm. But not sure the type of editor you’re 
>> looking for.
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>>> 
>>>   Currently I have the Drafts app for iOS and iPadOS. The main feature I 
>>> like about this app is it opens directly to the text area. But right now it 
>>> opens to a prompt to go premium.
>>> 
>>>   So am curious to know if there is another app like that that is free and 
>>> does not have prompts to go premium. Thanks.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>> My e-Mail:
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Re: Simple Text Editors

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

there’s always VI, Emacs and nano. They are all available in the terminal.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2023, at 6:49 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi ET,
> 
> I have a program on my iPhone and iPad called text editor, and it is just 
> that. A simple text editor. I can’t remember what it cost. But I don’t think 
> it was horribly expensive.
> HTH,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 29, 2023, at 5:03 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>    Not even close to what I want but I did neglect to state that I want a 
>> plain text editor.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>> --John F. Kennedy
>> My e-Mail:
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
 On 1/29/2023 2:39 PM, Brandon Olivares wrote:
>>> For the Mac, I generally just use TextEdit and it works fine for me. I also 
>>> like to use the Notes app for keeping quick notes I want to refer back to 
>>> later.
>>> For programming I use PHPStorm. But not sure the type of editor you’re 
>>> looking for.
> On Jan 29, 2023, at 5:34 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
 
  Currently I have the Drafts app for iOS and iPadOS. The main feature I 
 like about this app is it opens directly to the text area. But right now 
 it opens to a prompt to go premium.
 
  So am curious to know if there is another app like that that is free and 
 does not have prompts to go premium. Thanks.
 
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Re: Creating keyboard shortcuts for an app.

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OK, I believe all you have to do is make sure your capitalization is correct. I 
use VO’s copy last spoken phrase to the clipboard.
 You might need to turnoff the speaking of help text hints since these are 
separate phrases of text.
Sent from my iPhone

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> Hi, yess.
> menu in a specific application
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>> On Jan 28, 2023, at 2:24 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
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>> Sorry, I’m not sure what you are attempting to do. Are you trying to add a 
>> keyboard shortcut for a menu in a specific application?
>> Or are you trying to get a shortcut in the shortcuts app to have a keyboard 
>> shortcut.
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>>> Hi folks.
>>> As the subject says, I’m trying to do this with foobar2000.
>>> The shortcut I want to add is called. Load Playlist …
>>> I’ve written that in the menu, and added the key I wanted, but still know 
>>> luck.
>>> Anyone have any ideas?
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Family sharing question.

[Jessica Moss]

Ok, this probably is/isn’t exactly Voiceover related, but figured I’d post it 
here anyway.  Is there a way in family sharing, especially if you have a child 
under the age of 18, who has apparently become savvy enough to disable the 
default settings that sent notifications to me to allow/deny applications they 
want on their phone, so I can see on my end exactly what’s going on?  I got 
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yesterday, that I knew I didn’t make, and it wasn’t showing up anywhere in my 
own account, but was showing up in my bank statement, and it took me talking to 
someone at Apple for about 20 or 30 minutes trying to tell him over and over 
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but know nothing about the app itself, so had no idea its was 
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and overdrew me.  So for future reference, is there a way I can set things up 
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Re: Simple Text Editors

['E.T.' via MacVisionaries]

   I guess I need to explain. If something happens to my hearing 
devices, I want to quickly connect my braille display to either iPhone 
or iPad, preferably the iPad, which is in  a folio and has a Bluetooth 
keyboard, open a plain text editor directly into the text area. Thus 
someone can type to me and I can read the text. In this scenario, the 
Mac will not do.


   Drafts is such an app but I believe its subscription.

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On 1/29/2023 4:09 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:

there’s always VI, Emacs and nano. They are all available in the terminal.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 29, 2023, at 6:49 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi ET,

I have a program on my iPhone and iPad called text editor, and it is just that. 
A simple text editor. I can’t remember what it cost. But I don’t think it was 
horribly expensive.
HTH,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 29, 2023, at 5:03 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

   Not even close to what I want but I did neglect to state that I want a 
plain text editor.

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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com


On 1/29/2023 2:39 PM, Brandon Olivares wrote:

For the Mac, I generally just use TextEdit and it works fine for me. I also 
like to use the Notes app for keeping quick notes I want to refer back to later.
For programming I use PHPStorm. But not sure the type of editor you’re looking 
for.

On Jan 29, 2023, at 5:34 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


  Currently I have the Drafts app for iOS and iPadOS. The main feature I like 
about this app is it opens directly to the text area. But right now it opens to 
a prompt to go premium.

  So am curious to know if there is another app like that that is free and does 
not have prompts to go premium. Thanks.

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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

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Re: Help using Time Machine

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

OK, two completely different questions about Time Machine.
1. I believe in some cases, you can pick an APP or finder window before you 
start the time Machine process. You will need to experiment a little as I have 
only recovered one or two items with time machine.
2. You can certainly leave your time machine disk plugged in all the time, the 
only disadvantage of this is that if a ransom ware attack gets to your 
computer, there is a good chance they will encrypt all the data on the time 
machine disk too. Some people keep two time machine disks and swap them weekly. 
Or you can use another backup strategy in addition to Time Machine. Also, if 
you have automatic time machine backups turned on, and the time machine disk is 
not available, time machine will still create APFS snapshots that can be used 
to save changes once the disk is available again. Yet another reason to make 
sure you have more free disk space than you really need.

Best Wishes,
Jonathan
> On Jan 29, 2023, at 2:50 PM, Fazil M.  wrote:
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> Is it ok to leave external drive plugged in permenantly to MacbookPro2017 
> for time machine backup?
> Thanks!
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> -Original Message-
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> Dear Group,
> I am using Mac OS Monterey.
> Today I opened my CheckBook Pro app and to my surprise, It was showing my 
> last transactions was December 29th 2022.
> I guess there was a iCloud sync problem between my Big Sur & my Monterey.
> So I have a Time Machine backup from January 22, 2023.
> When I enter Time Machine, it places me on the Desktop. I cant figure out how 
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> Can someone point me in the right direction?
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Re: Simple Text Editors

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THe translation app could be used in a pinch. Just set both languages to 
English-US . Or even the mail app just keep a draft at the bottom and don’t put 
any recipients in the to or cc fields.
That being said, I am sure there are some simple text editing applications for 
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Re: Simple Text Editors

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Alternatively, I have a keyboard shortcut set up to open text edit on the Mac. For me, that shortcut is right option D. You could do something similar. Have a Shortcuts set up to open TextEdit and then hit command end to open a new document. I realize it isn’t quite as seamless as what you are looking for, but it seems like you could get it up and running fairly quickly.CheersDonnaSent from my iPhoneOn Jan 29, 2023, at 6:39 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:THe translation app could be used in a pinch. Just set both languages to English-US . Or even the mail app just keep a draft at the bottom and don’t put any recipients in the to or cc fields.That being said, I am sure there are some simple text editing applications for the IOS platform. 



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Re: Family sharing question.

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> ONe your child reaches a certain age, there is nothing other than 
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> primary family member. DUO Lingo is a free program that has a subscription 
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Re: Simple Text Editors

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Textedit is the way to go. Simple and pre-installed with Mac OS.

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  Currently I have the Drafts app for iOS and iPadOS. The main feature I like 
about this app is it opens directly to the text area. But right now it opens to 
a prompt to go premium.

  So am curious to know if there is another app like that that is free and does 
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Re: Simple Text Editors

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   Again, TextEdit is a Mac app, not iOS of iPadOS.

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Textedit is the way to go. Simple and pre-installed with Mac OS.

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   Currently I have the Drafts app for iOS and iPadOS. The main feature 
I like about this app is it opens directly to the text area. But right 
now it opens to a prompt to go premium.


   So am curious to know if there is another app like that that is free 
and does not have prompts to go premium. Thanks.


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Re: Simple Text Editors

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Well, the app I mentioned earlier Text Editor is an IOS app.  When you open it, 
it defaults to a list of recent files.  However, you could leave it open with a 
blank document up, so you could quickly get into it and have people type to you.
Best,
Donna

> On Jan 29, 2023, at 7:16 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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> On 1/29/2023 5:00 PM, Dave Carlson wrote:
>> Textedit is the way to go. Simple and pre-installed with Mac OS.
>> Dave Carlson
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>> On Jan 29, 2023, at 2:34 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>> like about this app is it opens directly to the text area. But right now it 
>> opens to a prompt to go premium.
>>   So am curious to know if there is another app like that that is free and 
>> does not have prompts to go premium. Thanks.
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Re: Simple Text Editors

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Donna,
   Now we are getting somewhere. I already have the app so after giving 
it some thought, I created a new document in iCloud Drive. Then 
connecting my braille display to the iPad, opened the app and was in 
that folder. This will work quite well. Thanks much for the suggestion. :)


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On 1/29/2023 6:03 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Well, the app I mentioned earlier Text Editor is an IOS app.  When you open it, 
it defaults to a list of recent files.  However, you could leave it open with a 
blank document up, so you could quickly get into it and have people type to you.
Best,
Donna


On Jan 29, 2023, at 7:16 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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   Again, TextEdit is a Mac app, not iOS of iPadOS.

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Textedit is the way to go. Simple and pre-installed with Mac OS.
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   Currently I have the Drafts app for iOS and iPadOS. The main feature I like 
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   So am curious to know if there is another app like that that is free and 
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Re: Simple Text Editors

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Glad we finally came up with a good solution for you!
Cheers,
Donna

> On Jan 29, 2023, at 9:31 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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> Donna,
>   Now we are getting somewhere. I already have the app so after giving it 
> some thought, I created a new document in iCloud Drive. Then connecting my 
> braille display to the iPad, opened the app and was in that folder. This will 
> work quite well. Thanks much for the suggestion. :)
> 
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> will make violent revolution inevitable."
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> My e-Mail:
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> 
> On 1/29/2023 6:03 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> Well, the app I mentioned earlier Text Editor is an IOS app.  When you open 
>> it, it defaults to a list of recent files.  However, you could leave it open 
>> with a blank document up, so you could quickly get into it and have people 
>> type to you.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>>> On Jan 29, 2023, at 7:16 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Again, TextEdit is a Mac app, not iOS of iPadOS.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>> --John F. Kennedy
>>> My e-Mail:
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 1/29/2023 5:00 PM, Dave Carlson wrote:
 Textedit is the way to go. Simple and pre-installed with Mac OS.
 Dave Carlson
 Oregonian, Woodworker, Farfar, Engineer, Musician
 dgcarlson0...@gmail.com
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 like about this app is it opens directly to the text area. But right now 
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   So am curious to know if there is another app like that that is free and 
 does not have prompts to go premium. Thanks.
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Re: Simple Text Editors

[Ryan Mann]

What app do you use for the terminal?  I tried ISH and VoiceOver seems 
sluggish.  Also, I remember trying Nano with it and had trouble figuring out 
where my cursor was using VoiceOver. 

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> On Jan 29, 2023, at 7:10 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
> 
> there’s always VI, Emacs and nano. They are all available in the terminal.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2023, at 6:49 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi ET,
>> 
>> I have a program on my iPhone and iPad called text editor, and it is just 
>> that. A simple text editor. I can’t remember what it cost. But I don’t think 
>> it was horribly expensive.
>> HTH,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 29, 2023, at 5:03 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>>    Not even close to what I want but I did neglect to state that I want a 
>>> plain text editor.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>>> --John F. Kennedy
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>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
> On 1/29/2023 2:39 PM, Brandon Olivares wrote:
 For the Mac, I generally just use TextEdit and it works fine for me. I 
 also like to use the Notes app for keeping quick notes I want to refer 
 back to later.
 For programming I use PHPStorm. But not sure the type of editor you’re 
 looking for.
>> On Jan 29, 2023, at 5:34 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Currently I have the Drafts app for iOS and iPadOS. The main feature I 
> like about this app is it opens directly to the text area. But right now 
> it opens to a prompt to go premium.
> 
> So am curious to know if there is another app like that that is free and 
> does not have prompts to go premium. Thanks.
> 
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Re: Simple Text Editors

[Brandon Olivares]

vim is my preference for Terminal but I only use it for small editing tasks, 
like writing commit messages for git, or quickly looking through a text file.

> On Jan 29, 2023, at 11:04 PM, Ryan Mann  wrote:
> 
> What app do you use for the terminal?  I tried ISH and VoiceOver seems 
> sluggish.  Also, I remember trying Nano with it and had trouble figuring out 
> where my cursor was using VoiceOver. 
> 
> Ryan Mann
> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
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> 386-383-5175
> 
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2023, at 7:10 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> there’s always VI, Emacs and nano. They are all available in the terminal.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2023, at 6:49 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi ET,
>>> 
>>> I have a program on my iPhone and iPad called text editor, and it is just 
>>> that. A simple text editor. I can’t remember what it cost. But I don’t 
>>> think it was horribly expensive.
>>> HTH,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jan 29, 2023, at 5:03 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
 
    Not even close to what I want but I did neglect to state that I want a 
 plain text editor.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
 will make violent revolution inevitable."
 --John F. Kennedy
 My e-Mail:
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
>> On 1/29/2023 2:39 PM, Brandon Olivares wrote:
> For the Mac, I generally just use TextEdit and it works fine for me. I 
> also like to use the Notes app for keeping quick notes I want to refer 
> back to later.
> For programming I use PHPStorm. But not sure the type of editor you’re 
> looking for.
>>> On Jan 29, 2023, at 5:34 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Currently I have the Drafts app for iOS and iPadOS. The main feature I 
>> like about this app is it opens directly to the text area. But right now 
>> it opens to a prompt to go premium.
>> 
>> So am curious to know if there is another app like that that is free and 
>> does not have prompts to go premium. Thanks.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
>> will make violent revolution inevitable."
>> --John F. Kennedy
>> My e-Mail:
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: Simple Text Editors

['Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries]

Voice Dream Writer app opens into the last text file used. I leave it with a file open with just one blank space, so it is ready for action. The app is designed for Blind folk to edit text and has brilliant features. HarryOn 30 Jan 2023, at 00:39, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:THe translation app could be used in a pinch. Just set both languages to English-US . Or even the mail app just keep a draft at the bottom and don’t put any recipients in the to or cc fields.That being said, I am sure there are some simple text editing applications for the IOS platform. 



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