Any Experiences with the MB Air m1?

[Ibraheem Fakir]

Hi List,

Considering trading my older machine in and picking up the m1 MacBook Air. 
Anyone have one and if so, what are your impressions with day to day VO use, 
running Windows with Jaws or NVDA, and video conferencing applications?

I’m also tired of the typing speed reduction on the butterfly keyboard and am 
interested in what the magic keyboard may offer.

Thanks,
Ibraheem

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Any reason not to migrate data to a new Mac using a Time-machine backup rather than having it migrate directly from the old Mac?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

I'm excited to say that I'm a proud owner of a new MBA.

In the past, I've migrated my data using a time-machine backup, and it seemed 
to go faster and more smoothly.  However, that was several OSes ago, so I 
thought I'd see what the current thinking about that is.  My old Mac is running 
Big Sur. Thoughts?
Cheers,
Donna

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Re: Any reason not to migrate data to a new Mac using a Time-machine backup rather than having it migrate directly from the old Mac?

[Brad Snyder]

I prefer to migrate my data manually rather than using either a Time Machine 
backup, or the Migration Assistant.  This way I know I have transferred only 
the data and not any of the accumulated garbage from the old Mac.
Since I keep most of my files in iCloud drive, this is a very simple 
undertaking.

- Brad -


On May 4, 2021, at 11:53, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi all,

I'm excited to say that I'm a proud owner of a new MBA.

In the past, I've migrated my data using a time-machine backup, and it seemed 
to go faster and more smoothly.  However, that was several OSes ago, so I 
thought I'd see what the current thinking about that is.  My old Mac is running 
Big Sur. Thoughts?
Cheers,
Donna

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Re: Any reason not to migrate data to a new Mac using a Time-machine backup rather than having it migrate directly from the old Mac?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Interesting.  I'd thought about doing that, but though my recent stuff is 
stored in iCloud, I have a fair amount of stuff on my Mac from before, so that 
could end up being sort of time-consuming.
Cheers,
Donna


> On May 4, 2021, at 12:02 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I prefer to migrate my data manually rather than using either a Time Machine 
> backup, or the Migration Assistant.  This way I know I have transferred only 
> the data and not any of the accumulated garbage from the old Mac.
> Since I keep most of my files in iCloud drive, this is a very simple 
> undertaking.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 4, 2021, at 11:53, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm excited to say that I'm a proud owner of a new MBA.
> 
> In the past, I've migrated my data using a time-machine backup, and it seemed 
> to go faster and more smoothly.  However, that was several OSes ago, so I 
> thought I'd see what the current thinking about that is.  My old Mac is 
> running Big Sur. Thoughts?
> Cheers,
> Donna
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VO on new Mac stops speaking after I migrate my data using Time Machine

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi all,

Subject says it all. I migrated my data, everything seemed to be going well. I 
heard VO say only 7 minutes remaining. But when I came back in the room, my MBA 
had gone completely silent.  The screen is lit up, so I know the Mac is on.  
It's been like that for about twenty minutes.  Anyone know what might be going 
on?  Debating whether to restart, but don't want to risk bricking the mac.
TIA,
Donna

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Re: VO on new Mac stops speaking after I migrate my data using Time Machine

[Robert Hill]

Hi Donna,

What you might want to try is to hold down CTRl and option keys, and hit the 
power button 3 times.

This should get you into a window where accessibility settings are checked or 
unchedcked.

Use VO and right arrow to move through the options. VoiceOver should be the 
first option. It will probably be unchecked so check it, and exit out of the 
settings, and you should be on your way.

Hope it works for you.

Bob Hill


> On May 4, 2021, at 4:41 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Subject says it all. I migrated my data, everything seemed to be going well. 
> I heard VO say only 7 minutes remaining. But when I came back in the room, my 
> MBA had gone completely silent.  The screen is lit up, so I know the Mac is 
> on.  It's been like that for about twenty minutes.  Anyone know what might be 
> going on?  Debating whether to restart, but don't want to risk bricking the 
> mac.
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: VO on new Mac stops speaking after I migrate my data using Time Machine

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Robert,

Nice guess. Tried it, but no dice.  I've figured out the problem is that VO is 
on, but nothing I do will activate speech. (sigh*(
Thanks,
Donna


> On May 4, 2021, at 4:02 PM, Robert Hill  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> What you might want to try is to hold down CTRl and option keys, and hit the 
> power button 3 times.
> 
> This should get you into a window where accessibility settings are checked or 
> unchedcked.
> 
> Use VO and right arrow to move through the options. VoiceOver should be the 
> first option. It will probably be unchecked so check it, and exit out of the 
> settings, and you should be on your way.
> 
> Hope it works for you.
> 
> Bob Hill
> 
> 
>> On May 4, 2021, at 4:41 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all. I migrated my data, everything seemed to be going well. 
>> I heard VO say only 7 minutes remaining. But when I came back in the room, 
>> my MBA had gone completely silent.  The screen is lit up, so I know the Mac 
>> is on.  It's been like that for about twenty minutes.  Anyone know what 
>> might be going on?  Debating whether to restart, but don't want to risk 
>> bricking the mac.
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Isn't there a keyboard command to mute/unmute speech in Voiceover?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

I thought there was, but I can't seem to find it.  If it exists, anyone know 
what it is?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Isn't there a keyboard command to mute/unmute speech in Voiceover?

[Jenny Wood]

I know you can use a three-finger double-tap on the trackpad when the trackpad 
commander is turned on to mute voiceover, but I’m not aware of a keyboard 
command that involves buttons. If there is such a thing, I would love to know 
myself! LOL


Jenny

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> I thought there was, but I can't seem to find it.  If it exists, anyone know 
> what it is?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Isn't there a keyboard command to mute/unmute speech in Voiceover?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Yeah, now it seems like VO isn't stayIng checked in Accessibility options.  
I've done absolutely everythingg I know to do, including talking to an idiot at 
Apple Accessibility.  this MBA may be headed right back to Apple.
Thanks anyway,
Donna
  

> On May 4, 2021, at 5:07 PM, Jenny Wood  wrote:
> 
> I know you can use a three-finger double-tap on the trackpad when the 
> trackpad commander is turned on to mute voiceover, but I’m not aware of a 
> keyboard command that involves buttons. If there is such a thing, I would 
> love to know myself! LOL
> 
> 
> Jenny
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 4, 2021, at 4:53 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionariesibil 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I thought there was, but I can't seem to find it.  If it exists, anyone 
>> know what it is?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Anyone know anything about a green and yellow spinning thing that replaces the cursor?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

According to my sighted husband, that is what is on the screen of my Mac.  He 
cannot make it go away, and when it is there, we can't click on anything.  
Anyone know what this thing is?
TIA,
Donna

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Re: Anyone know anything about a green and yellow spinning thing that replaces the cursor?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

So my husband googled this, and apparently its called the spinning wait 
cursor--also unofficially the Spinning Beach Ball of Death.  And death seems to 
be what it's brought to my Mac.  It's completely locked up and neither of us 
can get the Mac to do anything.  Is this mac toast, or is there some way out of 
this?  Any help is greatly appreciated, at this point, I'm not even sure if 
there's a way to erase my data from the hard disk.
TIA,
Donna

> On May 4, 2021, at 5:27 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
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> According to my sighted husband, that is what is on the screen of my Mac.  He 
> cannot make it go away, and when it is there, we can't click on anything.  
> Anyone know what this thing is?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Isn't there a keyboard command to mute/unmute speech in Voiceover?

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Hi, no unfortunately there isn’t a keyboard command however you can create one 
in keyboard commander

God bless.
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> On May 4, 2021, at 18:14, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Yeah, now it seems like VO isn't stayIng checked in Accessibility options.  
> I've done absolutely everythingg I know to do, including talking to an idiot 
> at Apple Accessibility.  this MBA may be headed right back to Apple.
> Thanks anyway,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On May 4, 2021, at 5:07 PM, Jenny Wood  wrote:
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>> I know you can use a three-finger double-tap on the trackpad when the 
>> trackpad commander is turned on to mute voiceover, but I’m not aware of a 
>> keyboard command that involves buttons. If there is such a thing, I would 
>> love to know myself! LOL
>> 
>> 
>> Jenny
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On May 4, 2021, at 4:53 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionariesibil 
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>>> I thought there was, but I can't seem to find it.  If it exists, anyone 
>>> know what it is?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: Any Experiences with the MB Air m1?

[Herbie Allen]

  You won’t be able to run Window’s on the newer Macs. There is an ARM Based 
version that has recently come out for VMwhere, but do not know how accessible 
or what is supported.

> On May 4, 2021, at 09:52, Ibraheem Fakir  wrote:
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> Hi List,
> 
> Considering trading my older machine in and picking up the m1 MacBook Air. 
> Anyone have one and if so, what are your impressions with day to day VO use, 
> running Windows with Jaws or NVDA, and video conferencing applications?
> 
> I’m also tired of the typing speed reduction on the butterfly keyboard and am 
> interested in what the magic keyboard may offer.
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> Thanks,
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Re: Anyone know anything about a green and yellow spinning thing that replaces the cursor?

[Brad Snyder]

Donna,
This is also called a “spinning pizza”.  It means the Mac is processing 
something.
If it doesn’t go away on its own after a while, you can press and hold the 
TouchID button until the computer shuts down.

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On May 4, 2021, at 17:34, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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So my husband googled this, and apparently its called the spinning wait 
cursor--also unofficially the Spinning Beach Ball of Death.  And death seems to 
be what it's brought to my Mac.  It's completely locked up and neither of us 
can get the Mac to do anything.  Is this mac toast, or is there some way out of 
this?  Any help is greatly appreciated, at this point, I'm not even sure if 
there's a way to erase my data from the hard disk.
TIA,
Donna

> On May 4, 2021, at 5:27 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> According to my sighted husband, that is what is on the screen of my Mac.  He 
> cannot make it go away, and when it is there, we can't click on anything.  
> Anyone know what this thing is?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Anyone know anything about a green and yellow spinning thing that replaces the cursor?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Brad,

I did that, but when I re-booted the Mac, it came right back.
Cheers,
Donna


> On May 4, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
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> Donna,
> This is also called a “spinning pizza”.  It means the Mac is processing 
> something.
> If it doesn’t go away on its own after a while, you can press and hold the 
> TouchID button until the computer shuts down.
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> On May 4, 2021, at 17:34, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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> So my husband googled this, and apparently its called the spinning wait 
> cursor--also unofficially the Spinning Beach Ball of Death.  And death seems 
> to be what it's brought to my Mac.  It's completely locked up and neither of 
> us can get the Mac to do anything.  Is this mac toast, or is there some way 
> out of this?  Any help is greatly appreciated, at this point, I'm not even 
> sure if there's a way to erase my data from the hard disk.
> TIA,
> Donna
> 
>> On May 4, 2021, at 5:27 PM, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>> According to my sighted husband, that is what is on the screen of my Mac.  
>> He cannot make it go away, and when it is there, we can't click on anything. 
>>  Anyone know what this thing is?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Any Experiences with the MB Air m1?

['Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

VMWare say they won't support ARM64 Windows for licencing reasons at the moment 
(silly policy IMO, but there we are), but also I don't know what the screen 
reader situation is on ARM64 Windows at the moment either. If you want to run 
Windows and macOS on the same box, you continue to need an Intel Mac.

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Re: Anyone know anything about a green and yellow spinning thing that replaces the cursor?

[Brad Snyder]

Then just let it sit.  It should go away when it finishes whatever it is doing.
Perhaps it is still doing the restoration/migration from the TimeMachine backup.

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On May 4, 2021, at 19:45, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi Brad,

I did that, but when I re-booted the Mac, it came right back.
Cheers,
Donna


> On May 4, 2021, at 7:14 PM, Brad Snyder  > wrote:
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> Donna,
> This is also called a “spinning pizza”.  It means the Mac is processing 
> something.
> If it doesn’t go away on its own after a while, you can press and hold the 
> TouchID button until the computer shuts down.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On May 4, 2021, at 17:34, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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> So my husband googled this, and apparently its called the spinning wait 
> cursor--also unofficially the Spinning Beach Ball of Death.  And death seems 
> to be what it's brought to my Mac.  It's completely locked up and neither of 
> us can get the Mac to do anything.  Is this mac toast, or is there some way 
> out of this?  Any help is greatly appreciated, at this point, I'm not even 
> sure if there's a way to erase my data from the hard disk.
> TIA,
> Donna
> 
>> On May 4, 2021, at 5:27 PM, Donna Goodin > > wrote:
>> 
>> According to my sighted husband, that is what is on the screen of my Mac.  
>> He cannot make it go away, and when it is there, we can't click on anything. 
>>  Anyone know what this thing is?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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