mac os big sur: locking the voice over speech parameters

[Yuma Decaux]

Hey all,

Just wanted to check if anyone knows if there's a key combination to lock the 
voice over speech parameters (pitch, volume, intonation etc) so it can't be 
inadvertently tampered with. I keep having some of the parameters change every 
now and then from simply doing stuff, typing, switching applications etc, and 
it messes up my voice over, making it either partially anounce things. When 
this happens I need to restart voice over, and more likely than not, I will get 
a voice over that's partially alex and partially the default voice for my 
country, australia. This forces me to go to the voice over 
preferences/speech/language area and put the parameters back to their defaults. 
This is wasting my time and I really hate wasting my time doing this kind of 
stuff sometimes at least 5 to 10 occurences deep per day.

I can understand how there are multiple approachesto do multiple things, 
but when there are too many key mappings across the system, stuff inevitably 
get entangled and these types of unfortunate side effects express themselves in 
the most annoying way.

So, anyone know how to lock these parameters so there's no key combo that will 
put them off kilter and mess up voice over?

Thanks

Yuma 

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Sound efects

[Nebojsa Tasic]

Hi everyone!

I don't hear sound efects. They are not muted in Voice Over Utility and 
output device is set to system default. All in System preferences seems 
to be okay. They're also scilent in Sounds Help. What could cause the 
problem?


TYA,
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Re: mac os big sur: locking the voice over speech parameters

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

Hello,
Since you are a programmer I will be brief. The keyboard shortcuts in System 
Settings should override voiceover bindings. If this is the case, you could 
create a "service" ainautomator and assign a keybinding to it. 
My second idea is simpler but not the solution you asked for. SAVE your 
Voiceover settings and then if they change unexpecdidly you can open the saved 
settings file and proceed. I expect you could even create a script that  saves 
VO settings oat a regular interval.  
   

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Reading email in Two Voices

[Fazil]

Hi, Group.

This is the second time that I tried to send an email via Mac. While I was
typing, my typed text was read by two voices. I mean, for instance, my
default voice is Samantha Compact. My typed text by two Samanthas at the
same time. How can I get rid off this double voice, please?

Thanks!

 

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Re: mac os big sur: locking the voice over speech parameters

[Yuma Decaux]

Hey John,

Thanks for the suggestions. I might try the first option. Do you know where I 
can get the list of commands assigned to the various voice over controls? I 
tried vo h then commands help to get to the speech parameter changes, but I 
don't see anything assigned to them.

Cheers,

Yuma 


> On 24 Mar 2021, at 1:39 am, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> Since you are a programmer I will be brief. The keyboard shortcuts in System 
> Settings should override voiceover bindings. If this is the case, you could 
> create a "service" ainautomator and assign a keybinding to it. 
> My second idea is simpler but not the solution you asked for. SAVE your 
> Voiceover settings and then if they change unexpecdidly you can open the 
> saved settings file and proceed. I expect you could even create a script that 
>  saves VO settings oat a regular interval.  
> 
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Re: Reading email in Two Voices

[Herbie Allen]

Someone may have a better answer, but I think what you want to fix is the 
Spoken content under accessibility. Make sure that voice is set to the one you 
want, and one of the boxes that should be unchecked is typing feedback.
Herbie

> On Mar 23, 2021, at 12:05, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Group.
> This is the second time that I tried to send an email via Mac. While I was 
> typing, my typed text was read by two voices. I mean, for instance, my 
> default voice is Samantha Compact. My typed text by two Samanthas at the same 
> time. How can I get rid off this double voice, please?
> Thanks!
>  
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podcasts

[Lorie McCloud]

is there an accessible podcast app I can install on my Mac that will give me 
access to the mp3's of my podcasts?

I really appreciate Jonathan's and Patrick's help. I went right to that folder 
and it doesn't appear to have anything in it that resembles an mp3. I'd like to 
keep certain ones and even share them. suggestions please.

thanks.
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Re: mac os big sur: locking the voice over speech parameters

[Jonathan Cohn]

The only way I have seen to adjust Voices is with the vo-command-shift arrow  
key strokes unless there is something in one of the commanders. I just checked 
the trackpad commander and option rotate left/right  adjusts pitch. 

Jonathan 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Mar 23, 2021, at 15:47, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
> 
> Hey John,
> 
> Thanks for the suggestions. I might try the first option. Do you know where I 
> can get the list of commands assigned to the various voice over controls? I 
> tried vo h then commands help to get to the speech parameter changes, but I 
> don't see anything assigned to them.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Yuma 
> 
> 
>> On 24 Mar 2021, at 1:39 am, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Since you are a programmer I will be brief. The keyboard shortcuts in System 
>> Settings should override voiceover bindings. If this is the case, you could 
>> create a "service" ainautomator and assign a keybinding to it. 
>> My second idea is simpler but not the solution you asked for. SAVE your 
>> Voiceover settings and then if they change unexpecdidly you can open the 
>> saved settings file and proceed. I expect you could even create a script 
>> that  saves VO settings oat a regular interval.  
>> 
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Re: Reading email in Two Voices

[Brad Snyder]

Try this, and see if this corrects the problem:
1.  Go to System Preferences > Accessibility.
2.  Select Speech from the Accessibility Features table.
3.  Make sure all the boxes in this section are unchecked.

Since you are using VoiceOver, you do not need to use any of these features.

HTH.

- Brad -


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Hi, Group.
This is the second time that I tried to send an email via Mac. While I was 
typing, my typed text was read by two voices. I mean, for instance, my default 
voice is Samantha Compact. My typed text by two Samanthas at the same time. How 
can I get rid off this double voice, please?
Thanks!
 

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Re: mac os big sur: locking the voice over speech parameters

[Yuma Decaux]

Yep, I got rid of these immediately. Things are stabilising.



> On 24 Mar 2021, at 7:50 am, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> The only way I have seen to adjust Voices is with the vo-command-shift arrow  
> key strokes unless there is something in one of the commanders. I just 
> checked the trackpad commander and option rotate left/right  adjusts pitch. 
> 
> Jonathan 
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2021, at 15:47, Yuma Decaux > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hey John,
>> 
>> Thanks for the suggestions. I might try the first option. Do you know where 
>> I can get the list of commands assigned to the various voice over controls? 
>> I tried vo h then commands help to get to the speech parameter changes, but 
>> I don't see anything assigned to them.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Yuma 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 24 Mar 2021, at 1:39 am, Jonathan C. Cohn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> Since you are a programmer I will be brief. The keyboard shortcuts in 
>>> System Settings should override voiceover bindings. If this is the case, 
>>> you could create a "service" ainautomator and assign a keybinding to it. 
>>> My second idea is simpler but not the solution you asked for. SAVE your 
>>> Voiceover settings and then if they change unexpecdidly you can open the 
>>> saved settings file and proceed. I expect you could even create a script 
>>> that  saves VO settings oat a regular interval.  
>>> 
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Re: Reading email in Two Voices

[Jonathan Cohn]

After one upgrade I did experience something like this that I was only able to 
correct by completely reseting my VO settings in the file menu of VoiceOver 
utility.
  
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Mar 23, 2021, at 13:05, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Group.
> This is the second time that I tried to send an email via Mac. While I was 
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> time. How can I get rid off this double voice, please?
> Thanks!
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mac os big sur: selected announcements overdose

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi all,

So I'm eeking out all the things that annoy me during my work using vo on the 
mac.

I have one sort of last annoyance currently which is sticky, the "selected" 
announcement overdose.

Let me explain, when I'm in group mode, which is sometimes the best method for 
reading through text with math symbols (converted to math jacks or some other 
third party symbol conversion tool inherent to most pages generating math 
symbols), whenever one of the generated symbols is hit, voice over then 
announces "selected", and optionally emits a tick sound to say what text has 
been selected. I never asked for this behaviour, and reading through math text 
is becoming tedious, so I have to copy last sentence and paste it on a text 
window. I don't want to have to do this as I have enough text windows opened as 
it is.

Anyone know where this behaviour comes from?

Thanks,

Yuma 


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mac os big sur: renaming the inbox names in mail

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi all,

This one is sticking like a sore thumb as I need to play guessing games or 
pattern recognition when accessing my multiple mailboxes.

Currently in the mailbox list, all my inboxes are just called "inbox" where 
previously they were associated to the name of the email address, like "gmail" 
or "icloud" etc.

mac os big sur changed this, and I was wondering if anyone knew where I'd go to 
put my mailbox names back in the list?

Thanks

Yuma 

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Re: mac os big sur: renaming the inbox names in mail

[Barry Hadder]

Hey Yuma,
Move vo to the favorites group at the top of the mailbox list and rout the 
mouse.  This will cause an Add button to appear.  Add the All Inboxes group to 
the favorites.  This should fix the problem.
It is also possible that it is all-ready shown and it isn’t expanded.

> On Mar 23, 2021, at 17:08, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> This one is sticking like a sore thumb as I need to play guessing games or 
> pattern recognition when accessing my multiple mailboxes.
> 
> Currently in the mailbox list, all my inboxes are just called "inbox" where 
> previously they were associated to the name of the email address, like 
> "gmail" or "icloud" etc.
> 
> mac os big sur changed this, and I was wondering if anyone knew where I'd go 
> to put my mailbox names back in the list?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Yuma 
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RE: Reading email in Two Voices

[Fazil]

Thanks much, Brad.

In my accessibility table, there is no speech.

Thanks!

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 2:50 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading email in Two Voices

 

Try this, and see if this corrects the problem:

1.  Go to System Preferences > Accessibility.

2. Select Speech from the Accessibility Features table.

3.  Make sure all the boxes in this section are unchecked.

 

Since you are using VoiceOver, you do not need to use any of these features.

 

HTH.


- Brad -

 

On Mar 23, 2021, at 12:05, Fazil mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi, Group.

This is the second time that I tried to send an email via Mac. While I was 
typing, my typed text was read by two voices. I mean, for instance, my default 
voice is Samantha Compact. My typed text by two Samanthas at the same time. How 
can I get rid off this double voice, please?

Thanks!

 

 

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Re: Reading email in Two Voices

[Herbie Allen]

In Big Sur it’s called Spoken content.


> On Mar 23, 2021, at 21:55, Fazil  wrote:
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> Thanks much, Brad.
> In my accessibility table, there is no speech.
> Thanks!
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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> Try this, and see if this corrects the problem:
> 1.  Go to System Preferences > Accessibility.
> 2. Select Speech from the Accessibility Features table.
> 3.  Make sure all the boxes in this section are unchecked.
>  
> Since you are using VoiceOver, you do not need to use any of these features.
>  
> HTH.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
>  
> On Mar 23, 2021, at 12:05, Fazil  > wrote:
>  
> Hi, Group.
> This is the second time that I tried to send an email via Mac. While I was 
> typing, my typed text was read by two voices. I mean, for instance, my 
> default voice is Samantha Compact. My typed text by two Samanthas at the same 
> time. How can I get rid off this double voice, please?
> Thanks!
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Re: Reading email in Two Voices

[Brad Snyder]

If you are using Big Sur, this category has been renamed to Spoken Content.

- Brad -


On Mar 23, 2021, at 21:55, Fazil  wrote:

Thanks much, Brad.
In my accessibility table, there is no speech.
Thanks!
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 2:50 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Reading email in Two Voices
 
Try this, and see if this corrects the problem:
1.  Go to System Preferences > Accessibility.
2. Select Speech from the Accessibility Features table.
3.  Make sure all the boxes in this section are unchecked.
 
Since you are using VoiceOver, you do not need to use any of these features.
 
HTH.

- Brad -

 
On Mar 23, 2021, at 12:05, Fazil mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
Hi, Group.
This is the second time that I tried to send an email via Mac. While I was 
typing, my typed text was read by two voices. I mean, for instance, my default 
voice is Samantha Compact. My typed text by two Samanthas at the same time. How 
can I get rid off this double voice, please?
Thanks!
 
 
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