Re: How do I disconnect a Facetime call on my iPad?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Really? I’m not familiar with that command. What is it’s broader function?

Thanks, Tim, I will give this a try.
Cheers,
Donna


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> On Feb 2, 2020, at 11:53 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> If on the keyboard, try VO-minus, the key just to the right of the 0 in the 
> number row.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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> On Feb 2, 2020, at 10:14, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Oh, I didn't even think of that. lol I was trying to do it from the keyboard, 
> and nothing seemed to work.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
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>> On Feb 2, 2020, at 10:02 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> I usually just do a two-finger double-tap.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
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>> On Feb 2, 2020, at 07:33, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all. No matter what I do I can’t seem to figure out how to 
>> end a Facetime call on my iPad. Can someone tell me how to do this?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Problem with Reminders

[N2KPV]

My wife is more diligent than me for Keeping her phone updated .  I will 
check with her though . Thanks Brad .

On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 8:52:50 PM UTC-5, Brad Snyder wrote:
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> The problem could be that your wife is still running a version of iOS 12 
> on her device.
> The Reminders app changed in iOS 13 and macOS Catalina, and is not 
> compatible with earlier versions of Reminders.
>
> - Brad -
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> On Feb 2, 2020, at 19:40, N2KPV > 
> wrote:
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> Yes , I did check the iCloud settings . Maybe I will try signing out and 
> logging back in again .
> thanx , Ben 
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> On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 8:27:22 PM UTC-5, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
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>> Have you gone into the iCloud settings on your phone to check if 
>> reminders is turned on? Also, signing out of your iCloud account on your 
>> phone and signing back in again might help as well .
>>
>> On 3/02/2020, at 14:23, N2KPV  wrote:
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>> So recently my wife tried to share a Reminder with me and a friend . For 
>> some reason I was unable to accept the invitation on my iPhone xr and my 
>> iMac which are both running the latest operating systems .  Although the 
>> shared reminders did show up on my macbook pro which is runnning Mojave, it 
>> also showed up on my older iPad .
>> Has anyone else had this problem . I hope I explained it correctly .
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Re: How do I disconnect a Facetime call on my iPad?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

It does exactly what a two-finger double-tap does.  I can't remember exactly 
what Apple calls it, but essentially, you can use it to answer calls, 
pause/start music etc.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
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On Feb 3, 2020, at 05:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Really? I’m not familiar with that command. What is it’s broader function?

Thanks, Tim, I will give this a try.
Cheers,
Donna


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> On Feb 2, 2020, at 11:53 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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> Hi,
> 
> If on the keyboard, try VO-minus, the key just to the right of the 0 in the 
> number row.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
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> On Feb 2, 2020, at 10:14, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
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> Oh, I didn't even think of that. lol I was trying to do it from the keyboard, 
> and nothing seemed to work.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Feb 2, 2020, at 10:02 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> I usually just do a two-finger double-tap.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
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>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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>> On Feb 2, 2020, at 07:33, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all. No matter what I do I can’t seem to figure out how to 
>> end a Facetime call on my iPad. Can someone tell me how to do this?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Start/Stop Music with VO Minus; Was: How do I disconnect a Facetime call on my iPad?

[Dave Carlson]

Tim,
I”ve tried VO Minus while playing music, and it does not start/stop playing. 
Even if iTunes is brought to the front there is no effect. Are you sure of this 
keystroke?

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Re: Start/Stop Music with VO Minus; Was: How do I disconnect a Facetime call on my iPad?

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Dave,

This command only works on iOS and iPadOS keyboards.  It does not work for 
MacOS.  I did actually take the effort to see what Apple calls this key 
combination.  It is "Magic Tap".

Later...


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On Feb 3, 2020, at 08:13, Dave Carlson  wrote:

Tim,
I”ve tried VO Minus while playing music, and it does not start/stop playing. 
Even if iTunes is brought to the front there is no effect. Are you sure of this 
keystroke?

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Re: Start/Stop Music with VO Minus; Was: How do I disconnect a Facetime call on my iPad?

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Okay, I missed the specificity to the iOS platform.

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Re: Start/Stop Music with VO Minus; Was: How do I disconnect a Facetime call on my iPad?

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Yep. Works perfectly on my iPad. Thanks, Tim. This is handy.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Feb 3, 2020, at 9:44 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> This command only works on iOS and iPadOS keyboards.  It does not work for 
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> combination.  It is "Magic Tap".
> 
> Later...
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> Tim,
> I”ve tried VO Minus while playing music, and it does not start/stop playing. 
> Even if iTunes is brought to the front there is no effect. Are you sure of 
> this keystroke?
> 
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Re: Adjusting the Option+T Date/Time Announcement

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Hi,

You'll need to first make a copy of the Script Editor file and place it on your 
Desktop because you're not allowed to modify active scripts in this location.

• Open Macintosh HD, Library, Scripts, VoiceOver, Time of Day.applescript
• cmd-c to Copy.
• Bring focus to your Desktop, then press cmd-v to Paste.
• VO-shift-m on this new Desktop version and choose Open With.
• From the sub-menu, select ScriptEditor.
• Interact with the Script source area and read through it for fun.

Down closer to the bottom, you'll find a line that starts with "set currentTime 
to " blah blah blah

• highlight this entire command and remove it in order to replace it with the 
following:

set currentTime to ((currentDate's weekday) as text) & " " & ((currentDate's 
month) as text) & " " & ((currentDate's day) as text) & ", " & (currentHour as 
text) & ":" & ((currentMinutes) as text) & " " & amPM as text

Since we're having so much fun, you can read the contents of the above line and 
note that I only added one extra item before the currentMonth item.  The new 
item pertains to the weekday that is already part of the (current date) within 
Apple Script.

While in Apple Script, you can press cmd-r to run the script and see if what 
you've done returns the correct phrase for you.  If it's all good, you'll need 
to now save and move the modified script back into the proper location.

So,

• press cmd-s to Save the new modified script.
• Press cmd-q to Quit Script Editor.
• Navigate to the Time of Day script on your Desktop and press cmd-c to Copy.
• Navigate to, and open, Macintosh HD, Library, Scripts, VoiceOver.
• cmd-v to Paste the new, modified version of your script and replace it when 
asked.
• Close up all the Finder windows.

Now, pressing right-option-t should now say "Monday, February 3, 2020".

HTH.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 2, 2020, at 21:12, Dave Carlson  wrote:

When pressing Option+T an Apple script runs to announce the date and time. I 
would like the date to announce the day of week, in addition to the month, day, 
and year, followed by time. How do I edit the scripts to accomplish this?


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Re: Adjusting the Option+T Date/Time Announcement

[Dave Carlson]

Tim,
Holey Moley, never would have figured out what string to put in there. All else 
seems sensible, and of course not knowing I can’t edit an active script would 
have messed me up for quite a while.
Thanks much for this.


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Re: Adjusting the Option+T Date/Time Announcement

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Hi,

Oops, the modified script I supplied does not say the year.  If you do indeed 
still want the year, I can fix that for you, or you can experiment some 
yourself to see if you can figure it out and where to place the argument.

Later...


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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 3, 2020, at 09:49, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi,

You'll need to first make a copy of the Script Editor file and place it on your 
Desktop because you're not allowed to modify active scripts in this location.

• Open Macintosh HD, Library, Scripts, VoiceOver, Time of Day.applescript
• cmd-c to Copy.
• Bring focus to your Desktop, then press cmd-v to Paste.
• VO-shift-m on this new Desktop version and choose Open With.
• From the sub-menu, select ScriptEditor.
• Interact with the Script source area and read through it for fun.

Down closer to the bottom, you'll find a line that starts with "set currentTime 
to " blah blah blah

• highlight this entire command and remove it in order to replace it with the 
following:

set currentTime to ((currentDate's weekday) as text) & " " & ((currentDate's 
month) as text) & " " & ((currentDate's day) as text) & ", " & (currentHour as 
text) & ":" & ((currentMinutes) as text) & " " & amPM as text

Since we're having so much fun, you can read the contents of the above line and 
note that I only added one extra item before the currentMonth item.  The new 
item pertains to the weekday that is already part of the (current date) within 
Apple Script.

While in Apple Script, you can press cmd-r to run the script and see if what 
you've done returns the correct phrase for you.  If it's all good, you'll need 
to now save and move the modified script back into the proper location.

So,

• press cmd-s to Save the new modified script.
• Press cmd-q to Quit Script Editor.
• Navigate to the Time of Day script on your Desktop and press cmd-c to Copy.
• Navigate to, and open, Macintosh HD, Library, Scripts, VoiceOver.
• cmd-v to Paste the new, modified version of your script and replace it when 
asked.
• Close up all the Finder windows.

Now, pressing right-option-t should now say "Monday, February 3, 2020".

HTH.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 2, 2020, at 21:12, Dave Carlson mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

When pressing Option+T an Apple script runs to announce the date and time. I 
would like the date to announce the day of week, in addition to the month, day, 
and year, followed by time. How do I edit the scripts to accomplish this?


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Re: Adjusting the Option+T Date/Time Announcement

[Brad Snyder]

Great information.  This one goes into the Saved Mail folder.
Thanks Tim.

- Brad -


On Feb 3, 2020, at 10:59, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

Oops, the modified script I supplied does not say the year.  If you do indeed 
still want the year, I can fix that for you, or you can experiment some 
yourself to see if you can figure it out and where to place the argument.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 3, 2020, at 09:49, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
wrote:

Hi,

You'll need to first make a copy of the Script Editor file and place it on your 
Desktop because you're not allowed to modify active scripts in this location.

• Open Macintosh HD, Library, Scripts, VoiceOver, Time of Day.applescript
• cmd-c to Copy.
• Bring focus to your Desktop, then press cmd-v to Paste.
• VO-shift-m on this new Desktop version and choose Open With.
• From the sub-menu, select ScriptEditor.
• Interact with the Script source area and read through it for fun.

Down closer to the bottom, you'll find a line that starts with "set currentTime 
to " blah blah blah

• highlight this entire command and remove it in order to replace it with the 
following:

set currentTime to ((currentDate's weekday) as text) & " " & ((currentDate's 
month) as text) & " " & ((currentDate's day) as text) & ", " & (currentHour as 
text) & ":" & ((currentMinutes) as text) & " " & amPM as text

Since we're having so much fun, you can read the contents of the above line and 
note that I only added one extra item before the currentMonth item.  The new 
item pertains to the weekday that is already part of the (current date) within 
Apple Script.

While in Apple Script, you can press cmd-r to run the script and see if what 
you've done returns the correct phrase for you.  If it's all good, you'll need 
to now save and move the modified script back into the proper location.

So,

• press cmd-s to Save the new modified script.
• Press cmd-q to Quit Script Editor.
• Navigate to the Time of Day script on your Desktop and press cmd-c to Copy.
• Navigate to, and open, Macintosh HD, Library, Scripts, VoiceOver.
• cmd-v to Paste the new, modified version of your script and replace it when 
asked.
• Close up all the Finder windows.

Now, pressing right-option-t should now say "Monday, February 3, 2020".

HTH.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 2, 2020, at 21:12, Dave Carlson mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

When pressing Option+T an Apple script runs to announce the date and time. I 
would like the date to announce the day of week, in addition to the month, day, 
and year, followed by time. How do I edit the scripts to accomplish this?


Dave Carlson
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Re: Adjusting the Option+T Date/Time Announcement

[Dave Carlson]

Tim,
Just made the change, and also learned a bit about the scripting language. 
Again, thanks.

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Re: Adjusting the Option+T Date/Time Announcement

[Dave Carlson]

Tim,
As to including the year, no need. Although I’m retired and often forget the 
day of the week, I rarely forget what year it is.


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OT: Airport extreme as extension to existing network

['Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I’m in a dreadful quandary.  I’ve managed to setup my new Netgear X6 R8000 
router successfully using web interface.  However, I’ve hit a problem in that I 
am not able to setup my old (6 gen) airport extreme to join the existing 
network.  I can see the airport extreme in airport utility and I start setting 
it up but it defaults to wanting to create a new network whenever I choose the 
option to add to existing network.  I don’t understand why.  Any clues?  It’s 
so frustrating.  I should be able to do so.  I’ve managed to add airport 
express to the existing network with netgear as main router but extreme refuses 
to give me this option.

many thanks

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Can't log into Macbook Air

[Todor Fassl]

I have access to a Macbook Air at my job. It has several logins enabled 
on it, including mine. But when I turn it on, all I can get it to say at 
the login screen is "user name". I've pressed every key and key 
combination I can think of and I can't get it to let me log in. I need 
to get to the users scroll area so I can select my user name and enter 
my password.


Twice now, I've gotten sighted assistance to log in but the people who 
have helped me seem to think ther's nothing wrong. In other words, I 
can't get a solid answer from them on how to avoid this problem in the 
future.


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Re: Can't log into Macbook Air

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

It sounds like File Vault is enabled.  When you turn VO on at that point, does 
the voice sound more mechanical?  If this is indeed the case, you just need to 
type the username in as it appears in the System Prefs.  After entering the 
username, press return, then you should hear the computer say "Password".  
Enter the password, and it will continue the login process and you should be 
fine after it finishes the startup procedure.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 3, 2020, at 11:29, Todor Fassl  wrote:

I have access to a Macbook Air at my job. It has several logins enabled on it, 
including mine. But when I turn it on, all I can get it to say at the login 
screen is "user name". I've pressed every key and key combination I can think 
of and I can't get it to let me log in. I need to get to the users scroll area 
so I can select my user name and enter my password.

Twice now, I've gotten sighted assistance to log in but the people who have 
helped me seem to think ther's nothing wrong. In other words, I can't get a 
solid answer from them on how to avoid this problem in the future.

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Re: OT: Airport extreme as extension to existing network

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Is there an option in the setup to set up manually, or "Other"?   I seem to 
recall that working better when you wish to do things a little different than 
the normal methods.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
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Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Feb 3, 2020, at 11:29, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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Hi,

I’m in a dreadful quandary.  I’ve managed to setup my new Netgear X6 R8000 
router successfully using web interface.  However, I’ve hit a problem in that I 
am not able to setup my old (6 gen) airport extreme to join the existing 
network.  I can see the airport extreme in airport utility and I start setting 
it up but it defaults to wanting to create a new network whenever I choose the 
option to add to existing network.  I don’t understand why.  Any clues?  It’s 
so frustrating.  I should be able to do so.  I’ve managed to add airport 
express to the existing network with netgear as main router but extreme refuses 
to give me this option.

many thanks

Andrew

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Re: Can't log into Macbook Air

[Petrus Tuerlings]

When it says user name just type in your user name then tab to the password 
field. Once you enter your password it should make three tones. This one got me 
as well when I was trying to sign into my wife’s Mac. 

> On 4/02/2020, at 07:29, Todor Fassl  wrote:
> 
> I have access to a Macbook Air at my job. It has several logins enabled on 
> it, including mine. But when I turn it on, all I can get it to say at the 
> login screen is "user name". I've pressed every key and key combination I can 
> think of and I can't get it to let me log in. I need to get to the users 
> scroll area so I can select my user name and enter my password.
> 
> Twice now, I've gotten sighted assistance to log in but the people who have 
> helped me seem to think ther's nothing wrong. In other words, I can't get a 
> solid answer from them on how to avoid this problem in the future.
> 
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Re: Can't log into Macbook Air

[Jonathan Cohn]

It is slightly possible that your account has not been enabled for File vault 
logins. I remembered there being a dialog in ElCapitan systems where one could 
list the users that were allowed to login at the file vault screen or something 
similar to that. I couldn’t find that. But in any case, when you here 
“Username” you should be able to type your username except the Macintosh won’t 
speak what you type.
 

> On Feb 3, 2020, at 1:29 PM, Todor Fassl  wrote:
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Re: How to drag and drop in Mail or iTunes

[Kevin Gibbs]

Tim and Co.

Sorry to bring this thread back up.  Tim’s suggestion works great with one 
exception.  I can move mailboxes around but I can’t distinguish how to move a 
mailbox so that it appears immediately below the point where I release the 
mouse.  Invariably, I end up putting the moved mailbox within the mailbox where 
I release the mouse.  I have enough vision to physically move a mailbox and 
place it such that a thin blue line appears, telling me to double tap and 
release the mouse.  But there must be a command that distinguishes between 
putting the moving mailbox within the destination and putting it below the 
destination.  What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,
Kevin

> On Sep 18, 2019, at 10:49 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> to clarify, this key combination was the original combination for dragging 
> and dropping when it was first introduced way back in Leopard or Snow 
> Leopard.  This method also required you to turn off cursor tracking and to do 
> some careful mouse routing.  The cursor tracking part of it is no longer 
> needed, and depending on your cursor syncing settings, mouse routing is not 
> always needed either.  I still do that part though as I find it often helps.  
> No, this combination and process has not been removed, it is still a part of 
> VO commands.  VO-comma and VO-period or VO-full stop for those of you across 
> the ponds, is also used for drag & drop but has lots of limitations.  The 
> VO-comma/VO-period drag & drop process seems to require items to remain 
> visible either within the VO cursor or within the visible portion of a 
> scrollable element.  This causes problems when you are attempting to drag 
> between windows, apps or items from one table to another.  This is where the 
> old fashioned method shines.  VO-cmd-shift-space toggles between mouse down 
> and mouse-up.  Yes, the combination is all those keys, 
> ctrl-option-cmd-shift-space.  It a twister combination but can be made easier 
> with VO-; to lock the VO keys, or to create a more simple combination with 
> the keyboard commander.  I have a keyboard commander shortcut set for this, 
> but usually forget to use it and just use the full key combination as I'm 
> used to doing it anyway.
> 
> There you go.  Your history lesson along with clarification.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
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> Jamf Certified Associate
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> 
> On Sep 18, 2019, at 19:01, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
>   Try using VO plus semi colon to lock the VO keys. That should help. Don't 
> forget to unlock the keys again with the same command which is a toggle.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> Many believe that we have been visited
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> 
> On 9/18/2019 5:41 PM, Dave Carlson wrote:
>> E.T. so the syntax VO-command-shift-space literally means holding down the 
>> Control, Option, Command, Shift keys and pressing spacebar?
>> Dave Carlson
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Possible Switch To VarioUltra Braille Display

[Pete De Vasto]

Hi, I’m thinking to switch from my Actilino to the VarioUltra 20 Braille 
display. That display has come up on this list before, but of course I didn’t 
follow the threads. I’d love to hear from folks who have an Ultra with thoughts 
about how it works with both Mac and iOS devices. I’ve read some good things 
about it, but I’m also having trouble figuring out if the display is even still 
available.

I apologize as this may be a bit off topic, but I’m not sure where else to go 
for info at this point.

Thanks in advance,
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Re: How do I disconnect a Facetime call on my iPad?

[PRAMIT BHARGAVA]

It's called Magic Tap because this is the only gesture that can be
programmed to perform a different action within a specific app.

Pramit

On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 8:27 PM 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It does exactly what a two-finger double-tap does.  I can't remember
> exactly what Apple calls it, but essentially, you can use it to answer
> calls, pause/start music etc.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On Feb 3, 2020, at 05:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Really? I’m not familiar with that command. What is it’s broader function?
>
> Thanks, Tim, I will give this a try.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 2, 2020, at 11:53 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <
> Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> If on the keyboard, try VO-minus, the key just to the right of the 0 in
> the number row.
>
> Later...
>
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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>
> On Feb 2, 2020, at 10:14, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Oh, I didn't even think of that. lol I was trying to do it from the
> keyboard, and nothing seemed to work.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
>
> On Feb 2, 2020, at 10:02 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries <
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I usually just do a two-finger double-tap.
>
> Later...
>
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
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>
> On Feb 2, 2020, at 07:33, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Subject says it all. No matter what I do I can’t seem to figure out how to
> end a Facetime call on my iPad. Can someone tell me how to do this?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: How do I disconnect a Facetime call on my iPad?

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Interesting. Thanks.
Donna

> On Feb 3, 2020, at 7:40 PM, PRAMIT BHARGAVA  wrote:
> 
> It's called Magic Tap because this is the only gesture that can be programmed 
> to perform a different action within a specific app.
> 
> Pramit
> 
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 8:27 PM 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> It does exactly what a two-finger double-tap does.  I can't remember exactly 
> what Apple calls it, but essentially, you can use it to answer calls, 
> pause/start music etc.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 3, 2020, at 05:41, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Really? I’m not familiar with that command. What is it’s broader function?
> 
> Thanks, Tim, I will give this a try.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Feb 2, 2020, at 11:53 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:Macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If on the keyboard, try VO-minus, the key just to the right of the 0 in the 
>> number row.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2020, at 10:14, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, I didn't even think of that. lol I was trying to do it from the 
>> keyboard, and nothing seemed to work.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 2, 2020, at 10:02 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I usually just do a two-finger double-tap.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Feb 2, 2020, at 07:33, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Subject says it all. No matter what I do I can’t seem to figure out how to 
>>> end a Facetime call on my iPad. Can someone tell me how to do this?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Possible Switch To VarioUltra Braille Display

[Brianna Snyder]

Hi Pete, 

Firstly, the display isn't available at this time, though there are rumors that 
a company will start producing them soon. 
If they ever do go back into production, though, I highly recommend the 
VarioUltra. It's very versatile, as you can have up to 4 Bluetooth devices and 
1 USB device connected all at once. I use mine mostly to read Bookshare books, 
as you can store files on the display itself. 

I hope you find a display that best suits your needs,
Brianna 

> On Feb 3, 2020, at 7:14 PM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I’m thinking to switch from my Actilino to the VarioUltra 20 Braille 
> display. That display has come up on this list before, but of course I didn’t 
> follow the threads. I’d love to hear from folks who have an Ultra with 
> thoughts about how it works with both Mac and iOS devices. I’ve read some 
> good things about it, but I’m also having trouble figuring out if the display 
> is even still available.
> 
> I apologize as this may be a bit off topic, but I’m not sure where else to go 
> for info at this point.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Pete De Vasto
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Re: Possible Switch To VarioUltra Braille Display

['Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Pete and Brianna,

Actually, according to info I've received recently, it is back in production, 
and there is a U.S. distributor.

I absolutely love my VU. It works great with Mac and IOS. Its design is small, 
light, and portable. I don't have need for this often, but I love that it can 
read docx files and PDFs. As far as I'm concerned, it's the best braille 
display currently available. I know there are some who like the Handytech 
displays, the ActiveBraille and Actilino, but since I don't have $6700, I 
haven't tried them out.

Here's my most recent info on the Vario, from Igore Finberg:
"Sales wise, you can purchase any former Baum blind or low vision products from 
Insidevision Inc. All products have a two year warranty. I will update you all 
on the progress in setting up service centers, but if you have an immediate 
need for repair or sales, please send me an email. I will do my best to reply 
within 24 hours. 

Best regards,
Igor Feinberg
CEO, Insidevision Inc.
igor.feinb...@insidevision-us.com 
781-799-2971"

Cheers,
Donna


> On Feb 3, 2020, at 9:09 PM, Brianna Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pete, 
> 
> Firstly, the display isn't available at this time, though there are rumors 
> that a company will start producing them soon. 
> If they ever do go back into production, though, I highly recommend the 
> VarioUltra. It's very versatile, as you can have up to 4 Bluetooth devices 
> and 1 USB device connected all at once. I use mine mostly to read Bookshare 
> books, as you can store files on the display itself. 
> 
> I hope you find a display that best suits your needs,
> Brianna 
> 
>> On Feb 3, 2020, at 7:14 PM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I’m thinking to switch from my Actilino to the VarioUltra 20 Braille 
>> display. That display has come up on this list before, but of course I 
>> didn’t follow the threads. I’d love to hear from folks who have an Ultra 
>> with thoughts about how it works with both Mac and iOS devices. I’ve read 
>> some good things about it, but I’m also having trouble figuring out if the 
>> display is even still available.
>> 
>> I apologize as this may be a bit off topic, but I’m not sure where else to 
>> go for info at this point.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Pete De Vasto
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