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Re: iOS Native Twitter App Now Supports Moments, Via VoiceOver

2016-05-05 Thread Jürgen Fleger

Hello Mark,

I’m a bit confused. In my Twitter app there’s no „Moments“ tap. Could you help 
me to understand your message better?

Thanks and
all the best
Jürgen

> Am 29.03.2016 um 03:05 schrieb M. Taylor :
> 
> Hello Everyone,  
> 
> I am so delighted to let you know that, as of today's update, the iOS native
> Twitter app now supports Twitter Moments via VoiceOver.  To begin enjoying
> this extremely exciting new feature of Twitter, on your iOS device:
> 
> 1.
> Update to the latest version of Twitter.
> 
> 2.
> Select the Moments tab located on the bottom row of the display.  
> 
> Be certain to explore the entire screen as the Moments area has a slightly
> different layout than the rest of the Twitter app.  
> 
> Also, I am happy to report that every aspect of Moments is accessible via
> the app's soft-buttons and by specific VoiceOver gestures including the
> 3-finger swipe left, to move through a specific thread, and the
> single-finger hold, and swipe up gesture, in order to quickly close a thread
> and be returned to the main app.  Also, Moments video playback works
> flawlessly.  Just remember that in order to hear the video, you must unmute
> the sound via a soft-button located near the upper left corner of the
> display.
> 
> Give yourself plenty of time to explore this new quick and easy way to stay
> up-to-date on what's happening around the world.  
> 
> Finally, please join me in thanking the developers of Twitter for making
> Moments VoiceOver accessible by sending a tweet to either @support or
> @twitter, or by sending an email to supp...@twitter.com or by posting a
> comment in the app-review area of iTunes.  
> 
> Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy!
> 
> Mark
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RE: iOS Native Twitter App Now Supports Moments, Via VoiceOver

2016-05-05 Thread M. Taylor

Hello Jurgen,

As I do not know in which country you reside, please keep in mind that Twitter 
Moments is, at present, only available in a few locations including the United 
States, Canada etc.  

So, it may not be offered in your location.

Mark 

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On Behalf Of Jürgen Fleger
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 12:08 AM
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Subject: Re: iOS Native Twitter App Now Supports Moments, Via VoiceOver

Hello Mark,

I’m a bit confused. In my Twitter app there’s no „Moments“ tap. Could you help 
me to understand your message better?

Thanks and
all the best
Jürgen

> Am 29.03.2016 um 03:05 schrieb M. Taylor :
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I am so delighted to let you know that, as of today's update, the iOS 
> native Twitter app now supports Twitter Moments via VoiceOver.  To 
> begin enjoying this extremely exciting new feature of Twitter, on your iOS 
> device:
> 
> 1.
> Update to the latest version of Twitter.
> 
> 2.
> Select the Moments tab located on the bottom row of the display.  
> 
> Be certain to explore the entire screen as the Moments area has a 
> slightly different layout than the rest of the Twitter app.
> 
> Also, I am happy to report that every aspect of Moments is accessible 
> via the app's soft-buttons and by specific VoiceOver gestures 
> including the 3-finger swipe left, to move through a specific thread, 
> and the single-finger hold, and swipe up gesture, in order to quickly 
> close a thread and be returned to the main app.  Also, Moments video 
> playback works flawlessly.  Just remember that in order to hear the 
> video, you must unmute the sound via a soft-button located near the 
> upper left corner of the display.
> 
> Give yourself plenty of time to explore this new quick and easy way to 
> stay up-to-date on what's happening around the world.
> 
> Finally, please join me in thanking the developers of Twitter for 
> making Moments VoiceOver accessible by sending a tweet to either 
> @support or @twitter, or by sending an email to supp...@twitter.com or 
> by posting a comment in the app-review area of iTunes.
> 
> Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy!
> 
> Mark
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Re: iOS Native Twitter App Now Supports Moments, Via VoiceOver

2016-05-05 Thread Jürgen Fleger

Ah, OK. That helps. I’m in Germany and so it might be not available here.
Thanks and all the best
Jürgen
> Am 05.05.2016 um 09:42 schrieb M. Taylor :
> 
> Hello Jurgen,
> 
> As I do not know in which country you reside, please keep in mind that 
> Twitter Moments is, at present, only available in a few locations including 
> the United States, Canada etc.  
> 
> So, it may not be offered in your location.
> 
> Mark 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jürgen Fleger
> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 12:08 AM
> To: Mac Visionaries Visionaries
> Subject: Re: iOS Native Twitter App Now Supports Moments, Via VoiceOver
> 
> Hello Mark,
> 
> I’m a bit confused. In my Twitter app there’s no „Moments“ tap. Could you 
> help me to understand your message better?
> 
> Thanks and
> all the best
> Jürgen
> 
>> Am 29.03.2016 um 03:05 schrieb M. Taylor :
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> I am so delighted to let you know that, as of today's update, the iOS 
>> native Twitter app now supports Twitter Moments via VoiceOver.  To 
>> begin enjoying this extremely exciting new feature of Twitter, on your iOS 
>> device:
>> 
>> 1.
>> Update to the latest version of Twitter.
>> 
>> 2.
>> Select the Moments tab located on the bottom row of the display.  
>> 
>> Be certain to explore the entire screen as the Moments area has a 
>> slightly different layout than the rest of the Twitter app.
>> 
>> Also, I am happy to report that every aspect of Moments is accessible 
>> via the app's soft-buttons and by specific VoiceOver gestures 
>> including the 3-finger swipe left, to move through a specific thread, 
>> and the single-finger hold, and swipe up gesture, in order to quickly 
>> close a thread and be returned to the main app.  Also, Moments video 
>> playback works flawlessly.  Just remember that in order to hear the 
>> video, you must unmute the sound via a soft-button located near the 
>> upper left corner of the display.
>> 
>> Give yourself plenty of time to explore this new quick and easy way to 
>> stay up-to-date on what's happening around the world.
>> 
>> Finally, please join me in thanking the developers of Twitter for 
>> making Moments VoiceOver accessible by sending a tweet to either 
>> @support or @twitter, or by sending an email to supp...@twitter.com or 
>> by posting a comment in the app-review area of iTunes.
>> 
>> Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy!
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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RE: iPhone 7 specs confirmed from a leaked schematic, includes 2 cameras and no iPhone jack

2016-05-05 Thread Simon Fogarty

Yes I think Samsung use a matt / platform that the phone is laid on that then 
charges the device \through a special type of charging surface.From: 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Scott
Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2016 12:55 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 7 specs confirmed from a leaked schematic, includes 2 
cameras and no iPhone jack

Wireless charging is a system where you beam the electricity through the air to 
the device to charge it.  Basically, I think it uses the principles of 
inductance to transfer the electricity to the battery.  You generally have a 
matt or area that you set your phone in and it charges while resting.  Coffee 
shops have this options available in many places.


> On May 4, 2016, at 8:14 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
> 
> Ok, think I’m a little out of the loop here, what is wireless charging?
>> On May 3, 2016, at 10:22 PM, Robin  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> The Rumored WirelessCharging may OffSet the LackOf a HeadphoneJack
>> 
>> Finally Apple will have WirelessCharging on their MobilePhones 
>> (iPhones) At 06:13 AM 5/3/2016, you wrote:
>>> Personally, I donâ€™t think the headphone jack will come back ever again.  
>>> It will take some getting used too, but, I understand why it is being done. 
>>>  The more important thing to me is that the new iPhone hopefully, will be 
>>> water proofed or, at least a lot more water resistant.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Apr 28, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Robin  wrote:
 
 I'm curious HowMany People will OverLook the LackOf a HeadPhoneJack on 
 either the iPhone7 or iPhone7+ (i.e., iPhone7PRO), & Give this iPhone a 
 Chance.
 
 OR
 
 Will People SitBack & wait for Apple to ReIntroduce the 
 HeadPhoneJack in another iPhone InTheFuture quite possibly the iPhone8 
 (because the iPhone7S & iPhone7S+ & iPhone7PRO will likely be the 
 SameDesign as the 7) At 05:55 AM 4/28/2016, you wrote:
> Redmond Pie is reporting that a leaked iPhone 7 schematic appeared in a 
> japanese magazine and confirms many of the rumors out there.  The iPhone 
> 7+ also called the Pro will include dual cameras for stereoscopic vision, 
> no head phone jack and a smart connector on the back.  Also appears to 
> have a touch sensitive home button and a similar size to the iPhone 6s+.
> 
> Read more here
> 
> http://www.redmondpie.com/rumored-iphone-7-plus-features-and-desig
> n-specs-confirmed-by-schematics-leak/
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RE: human to cat translator

2016-05-05 Thread Simon Fogarty

Well, kind of makes sense if you think about it!

But even so, elmo the red furry creature wasn't a sex offender, that was the 
guy with his hand you know where!

The guy should be shot if that's true, Elmo rules.

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On Behalf Of Scott
Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2016 12:56 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: human to cat translator

Didn’t Elmo turn out to be a sex offender?

I’m serious, the guy who played the voice, there was an issue there, off to 
google for a memory refresher.

> On May 4, 2016, at 6:04 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> If I could vote, I'd vote elmo!
> 
> He's gotta be honest.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
> Sent: Wednesday, 4 May 2016 2:46 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: human to cat translator
> 
>Trump, having inherited his fortune, is going to bring back the American 
> Dream? Laughable, for the 1% is not suffering.
> 
>Trump may get away with brow beating people at business meetings. He knows 
> nothing about running the country and if he should move into the White House 
> we will think the last 10 years was a vacation.
> 
>What we see on the news is an act? What you see is what you get. All the 
> Republican candidates from the get go made the mistake of allowing Trump to 
> push their buttons. It was a circus and he is the head clown.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
> 
> On 5/3/2016 7:21 AM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote:
>> AHOY LIST,
>> Trump is the only "cat" running that can start putting the USA back 
>> on the straight course to prosperity and again innovation here! :) Remember 
>> its the freedom enjoyed in the USA that brought you all apple and Avid!
>> Anybody that actually works for a living knows that big government is the 
>> problem not the solution!
>> I hope Hillary's dress designer does nice work with "orange Jump 
>> suits"! :) Talk soon Chuck
>> 
>> On May 3, 2016, at 8:57 AM, Scott wrote:
>> 
>>> Hopefully, Hillary will be brought up on charges soon and wet can get this 
>>> thing over.
>>> 
>>> I’m at a bit of a disadvantage in that I’ve actually met Mr Trump 
>>> years ago, way before this recent run when he contracted my father’s 
>>> business to install some large generator sets for a Marine 
>>> application.  It was a positive experience.  I’m also aware of an 
>>> act of generosity on his part that’s not publicly known so my 
>>> personal opinion is the stuff you see on TV is an act.  Not that you 
>>> want that for your president just that he’s not the “Richard” that 
>>> many may think or make him out to be or he makes him self out to be 
>>> to be
>>> fare.:)
>>> 
>>> Personally, I think Simon has the right idea being in New Zealand.
>>> 
 On May 3, 2016, at 8:49 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
 Yes, you're right.  That is a problem.  Personally, I'll take the criminal 
 over the whacko.  At least with Hilary you know you're getting a 
 self-serving political animal.  But with Trump God only knows. but I agree 
 it'd be nice if we actually had an attractive option.
 Donna
> On May 3, 2016, at 7:45 AM, Scott  wrote:
> 
> Well, neither option is good, Trump’s a whacko and Hillary is a criminal 
> so neither option is great.  I’m a Gary Johnson man myself but hoping for 
> a 3rd party is the definition of wishful thinking.
> 
>> On May 3, 2016, at 7:35 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>> lol  You've got that right.  And sadly, if he gets to be 
>> president, all these idiots who are voting for him will figure 
>> out just what a pathological whack job they've sent to the white 
>> House. *sigh*
>> 
>> OK, so maybe our cat's the second craziest one on the planet.  In either 
>> case, she's much more pleasant to be around than is even having to 
>> listen to the Donald.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>>> On May 3, 2016, at 2:01 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I thought Donald Trump was the craziest cat on the planet?
>>> 
>>> Even though he is out of this world in the way of reality!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna 
>>> Goodin
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 12:28 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: human to cat translator
>>> 
>>> OK, somehow I missed this thread.  I need this app, I think our cat has 
>>> to be the craziest cat on the planet.  What's the name of the app?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
 On May 2, 2016, at 1:55 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
 
 I'm not laughing really,

RE: How Do You Use iOS?

2016-05-05 Thread Simon Fogarty

Yeah Donna, it is.very cool, was using it to day in a meeting, 
Gotta sto referring to my bosses as REMFs.
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On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2016 1:17 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How Do You Use iOS?

Just downloaded it.  Very cool app, glad we had this discussion.
Take care,
Donna
> On May 4, 2016, at 4:59 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> HI Donna,
> 
> It's great, it runs from my watch so I can start it and finish it on the 
> watch and the recording is saved directly to iCloud drive for you to call on 
> when it's needed.
> 
> I find it's great quality recording and it works both on the phone and 
> the watch, and the recording can be longer than what I've been able to 
> get voice recorder to take
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Wednesday, 4 May 2016 12:08 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How Do You Use iOS?
> 
> Hi Jeanine,
> 
> Just curious, what is it that you like about Just Press Record as opposed to 
> say the built-in Voice Memos app?  I'm just wondering.  People have talked 
> about that app before, but I've never understood what it's advantages are.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On May 3, 2016, at 6:47 AM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
>> 
>> I have way too many apps on my phone right now but the ones I use most are: 
>> 
>> Just Press Record
>> Due (appointment and reminder app)
>> Carrot Weather
>> Moovit (transit app)
>> Transit times
>> Overcast (podcast listening app)
>> FaceBook and Twitter for social networking Roger (walky-talky app) 
>> Hound and Google Now (search apps) Bacon Reader (for managing Reddit 
>> and sub-reddit threads) HBO Now (strictly for Game of Thrones)TapTap 
>> See, KNFB Reader and Third Eye for product identification
>> 
>> Light detector
>> 
>> Those are the most often used ones in no particular order.
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 3, 2016, at 6:54 AM, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> The apps I use at the moment are:
>>> 
>>> Kindle, one of my favourites; KNFB Reader occasionally; Tweetings for 
>>> Twitter; Facebook; a couple of TV related apps called Sky+ and Sky Q; 
>>> Notes, often for jotting down grocery lists; Reminders, almost daily; 
>>> Calendar; Mail, though more for reading than writing; Access Note, mainly 
>>> for writing down my dreams, then sink thee notes to Dropbox, so there’s 
>>> another one slipped in there :) and Safari, probably my most used app; and 
>>> how could I forget: Music.
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> Angie
 On 30 Apr 2016, at 08:35, M. Taylor  wrote:

 I just want to thank you all for contributing to this thread.  

 Honestly, I cannot stop smiling when I read your lists of apps and 
 discover all of the various ways you use them.

 To those who have not yet posted, please remember that you do not need to 
 list only apps that have not yet been mentioned; just list the apps that 
 you use and how you use them if they are not self-explanatory.  

 Personally, I am making a list of all of the marvelous apps you have 
 brought to my attention that I have not yet explored.

 From the bottom of my heart, I thank you and, let’s keep ‘em coming.  
 (Big, Big, Smile).

 Mark

 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott
 Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 3:46 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How Do You Use iOS?

 Hi Mark, cool thread here’s my response to add to the others.

 1. Good Mail for Enterprise, it’s a secure mail client owned by RIM now 
 that I use to access my work email.  Since it’s a secure network we need 
 to use a client like this to access exchange.

 2. iMessage, I use the native messaging app as well as the Mac app to work 
 with engineers in the field or other coworkers.  It’s great for me as I 
 can respond on any device so it makes working very simple if I can cut and 
 paste to the same conversation on my laptop and pick it up on the phone.

 3. CNBC, I use the watch lists and also love the automatic notifications 
 so I get my important breaking financial news.

 4. Ootunes / i heart radio / radio.com / tune in pro/ XM sirius, these are 
 the streaming music / media apps I use.  I like the XM because it syncs 
 with my car, the other apps are just good over the air aggregators.

 5. WhatsApp: secure messaging that’s encrypted end to end.  Migrating to 
 this away from other apps for security reasons.

 6. Bria soft phone, allows me to connect to my PBX, enables me to encrypt 
 both the payload and signaling for my calls and has very good

RE: Very perplexing issue with VMWare Fusion 8

2016-05-05 Thread Simon Fogarty

Hi Chris,

I’m trying to remember this but I thought it was something like ctrl plus G to 
take / open the vm windowI’ll have to check that one tomorrow but does 
voicevover not speak the key shortcuts to put the vm in focus?

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On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2016 7:35 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Very perplexing issue with VMWare Fusion 8
Importance: High

OK, this is on El Capitan 10.11.4, and am using VMWare Fusion 8.1.1.

I'm totally confused here.  I downloaded the ISO image of Ubuntu 16.04 Desktop, 
and am trying to get the darn thing to install, but am having some issues.  I'm 
not sure if this is related to Ubuntu, or to Fusion.  Let me clarify and make 
this very clear.  This is not one of the blind related modified distros based 
on Ubuntu.  This isn't Vinux, F123, Sonar, which no longer is based on that 
distro anyway, but you get the point.  This is just native Ubuntu.

I elected to not do the easy install, so that this way, I could have it 
manually boot to the image, and from there, I could install the OS with speech 
using Orca.  I have enough vision to see when the screen pops up with the 
installer.

I noticed that by default, the window is not in full screen view, unless I hit 
ctrl+command+F.  Even not doing this though, I see two windows.  The VMWare 
Fusion window, and the main VM Library window.

If I press VO+F2 F2 to go to the window chooser, it tells me that the current 
window is my VM.  OK, that's cool.  Now, someone told me to make it gain 
keyboard control, I just need to be in that window, then hit shift+Tab.  Then 
to release  control, hit left ctrl+left command.

OK, so here's the problem.  once I see the installation come up, I'm hitting 
VO+F2 F2, making sure I'm in the VM window, then hitting shift+Tab to give the 
VM keyboard control.  This isn't appearing to work though, as after doing this, 
if I hit VO+M to go to the menu bar, it's working.  My VM's not interpretting 
those keys.  What's weirder is, When I focus on the VM window, I here that it's 
interacted me automatically with the toolbar, and placed me on the suspend 
button.  Therefore, when I try hitting alt+windows+S, also known as 
alt+Super+S, to start up Orca, it's not launching.  I tried also ctrl+S, but no 
good.  I even hit alt+F2 to get to the run dialog, typing orca, then hitting 
enter.  NO good.  So, I really really suspect that somehow, my VM's not getting 
keyboard control.  So, ultimately, my question is, how in the world do I deal 
with this?  Does the VM not gain control right away when you boot the machine?  
What could I maybe be doing wrong?

Chris.
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RE: Very perplexing issue with VMWare Fusion 8

2016-05-05 Thread Simon Fogarty

Hi Chris,

Just wondering which Ubuntu version it is your working with for your VM?

04 16 or something earlier?

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Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2016 10:35 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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Huge Tarzanne cry!

Actually, I figured out the problem... well... part of my proboem.  How's that? 
 I have Voiceover set to be routed through a really cheap little pair of PC 
speakers, so that it's localized away from my big studio monitors that I use 
when I am doing my audio production work.  I have all the other system sounds 
set to be routed through my audio interface which has its main out going to my 
monitors.  What I didn't realize was that the damn interface came unplugged.  
Suffice it to say, I! r'really! feel friggin stupid right about now!  I am such 
a dork!  I can't believe that it never until last minute dawned on me to check 
that.  Deh... And I'm suppose to be I.T.  Earth callen Shirlock!  LOL!  I say 
part of my problem as now, when I get to the part of the Ubuntu installer where 
I tell it to erase the whole disk, then I select the virtual SCSI drive that it 
created for the VM, it appears either the installer is hanging when I hit space 
on the next button, or, Orca's crashing, and not letting me restart it.

Anyone care to explain that one?  I don't get it!

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RE: Help Activating Iphone.

2016-05-05 Thread Simon Fogarty

Hi yes I had a similar issue when again removing my phone from the beta  
program.

 I then was able to use itunes from my computer and do a restore using the home 
and power buttons on the phone and pluging in to the computer 


Give that a try and see what happens.

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On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2016 11:32 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Help Activating Iphone.

Hi!
I decided today i should get my Iphone 6S out of the beta program.
So i followed the instructions and tried to restore the phone.
Now i am stuck because voiceover does not speak on the iphone even if i tripple 
click the home button it does not work.
Itunes shows a wierd activationg html page telling me there is a problem with 
the Iphone.
It suggests me to click a link abut iphone service but what i need now is an 
iphone that has voiceover going.
It does not help to talk to siri either.
I am really in a mess.
Stupid me that did this right now.
Maybe i will have to use the android phone i have here.
/A

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RE: VMWare Fusion and Sonar?

2016-05-05 Thread Simon Fogarty

Hi Chris,

I think you’ll find that by default the Fusion system is picking SCSI hdd, I 
noted today setting up a windows 10 vm at work that it chose that as the HDD 
option even though the drive it’s on is a fusion 1tb drive in my mac mini

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On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2016 11:49 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion and Sonar?

First,
 Ubuntu has a talking installer, and I'm not sure where you got the impression 
that it didn't.

When the installer starts, hit ctrl+super key+S.

Secondly, Sonar is based on Manjaro, which is based on Arch.  At the end of the 
day, Sonar is kind of a spin on a spin.  At the core rock bottom of the kernel, 
it's Arch.  Unfortunately, Arch is not listed as one of the OS's, and selecting 
either Other or Other 64 bit isn't helping.  I can't select in the Linux 
category of OS's Other 3.0 Kernel, or Other 3.0 kernel 64 bit, as I'm not 
totally sure what the Gnome version of Sonar uses.  I didn't download the Nate 
version.

One thing however I noticed is, it's defaulting to building the VM with an 8GB 
SCSI hard disk.  I'm wonderring if that may be part of my issue right there.  I 
think Sonar requires at least 20GB for optimal performance.  I could be wrong 
though.  Plus, I thought most drives now adays are SATA, not SCSI.
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- Original Message -
From: Carter Temm
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion and Sonar?

Hi,
I don’t happen to know that much about this specific Distro of linux, but may 
be able to help. For one, what is this based off? For example, Vinux is based 
off ubuntu, so I can easily select ubuntu as an option in fusion if I want to 
use Vinux. For me, however, I’ve stayed with mainstream distributions, such as 
Ubuntu and Debian. The installations for those are perfectly accessible as 
well. Sure they don’t have a talking installer at boot, but that’s to be 
expected
On May 4, 2016, at 5:54 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I'm making this a separate thread, as this really has nothing to do with my 
other problem I was having.

Has anyone had success with the most up to date version of Sonar GNU Linux 
getting it installed within VMWare Fusion?  I can't put it on my Windows 
machine, as it's a live mission critical work system, and so I can't chance 
botching up that PC in any way.  This is why I bought Fusion.  Whereas most 
people wanna get Fusion so they can run Windows, I actually wanted it so I can 
test different builds of Linux.

Anyway, being that Sonar is not really a distro in and of itself, I mean, it 
is, but not really.  The kernel is based off Manjaro Linux.  I got the ISO, and 
then in Fusion, I told it to install another OS from an image, then browsed to 
the ISO.  This worked just fine.  When it asked me what OS I was using, I went 
to the browser, and to Linux.  I didn't see Manjaro in there, so I therefore 
went to Other.  Under other, I had two options:  other, or Other 64 bit.  I've 
tried both.  Once I do this, save the VM, then it starts to boot, the image 
boots just fine, I get the first little menu where you just wait, and 
eventually the Sonar image will load, and Orca comes up speaking the installer. 
 Unfortunately, at this point, that isn't happenning.  Once the menu goes away, 
it's hanging and going no further.  I sat here for almost an hour and a half 
waiting for the dad blame thing to load, and it won't.

I'm quite sure someone! out there has got! to have tried getting this to work 
on Fusion aside from me.  I just need to know the necessary steps to get Fusion 
to fully load the thing, and let me install it without it hanging.

Being this is the MacVisionaries list, do realize up front that I'm not asking 
for you all to tell me how to install Linux once I get into the installer.  
Now, off list, if you all wanna give me a hand, then by all means, I will take 
all the help I can get with this, and will do so very gratefully, but on list, 
to keep this on topic, all I'm asking is, how do I set Fusion in general, and 
how do I configure the VM individually so that it will let the Sonar 
installation succeed.

According to About this Mac, this is OSX 10.11.4, and is a Mac Mini, Late 2012, 
2.5GHZ Intel I5, 8GB ram, 500GB hard disk with 199.38GB available.  No weird 
partitions, no Bootcamp, nothing.  I don't even think I have the recovery 
partition.  I think a while back when restoring from a Carbon Copy Cloner 
backup, I accidentally blew it up.  Whoops?

I'm using the USB full sized white aluminum Apple keyboard which includes the 
numeric keypad.  This is not the USB and bluet

RE: VMWare Fusion and Sonar?

2016-05-05 Thread Simon Fogarty

Yeah I’m wondering this one also?!

I’m also wondering what sonar is?

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
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Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2016 11:52 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion and Sonar?

Matthew, this is absolutely excellent!  Let me try it with this gnome desktop 
version.  If that doesn't work, I'll go grab the Mate version.

I wonder why you'd select Windows 10, when this is Linux, not Windows, or is 
that something you honestly can't explain, you just know it works.
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From: matthew dyer
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion and Sonar?

Hi

Chris,

I have sonar running sonar mate on vmware fusion.  Here is what I did and maybe 
this wiklll work for you.  When you tell vm what os you are running, select 
windows 10 either 634 bit or just windows 10.  After doiung thism, you should 
boot just fine  once you boot up, make sure you select the icon on the desk top 
that say install manjaro linux and follow the prompts.

The first couple of screens, you will wnt tto use flat review as tabing will 
change the langwage.  Matthew

On 05/04/2016 06:54 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
I'm making this a separate thread, as this really has nothing to do with my 
other problem I was having.

Has anyone had success with the most up to date version of Sonar GNU Linux 
getting it installed within VMWare Fusion?  I can't put it on my Windows 
machine, as it's a live mission critical work system, and so I can't chance 
botching up that PC in any way.  This is why I bought Fusion.  Whereas most 
people wanna get Fusion so they can run Windows, I actually wanted it so I can 
test different builds of Linux.

Anyway, being that Sonar is not really a distro in and of itself, I mean, it 
is, but not really.  The kernel is based off Manjaro Linux.  I got the ISO, and 
then in Fusion, I told it to install another OS from an image, then browsed to 
the ISO.  This worked just fine.  When it asked me what OS I was using, I went 
to the browser, and to Linux.  I didn't see Manjaro in there, so I therefore 
went to Other.  Under other, I had two options:  other, or Other 64 bit.  I've 
tried both.  Once I do this, save the VM, then it starts to boot, the image 
boots just fine, I get the first little menu where you just wait, and 
eventually the Sonar image will load, and Orca comes up speaking the installer. 
 Unfortunately, at this point, that isn't happenning.  Once the menu goes away, 
it's hanging and going no further.  I sat here for almost an hour and a half 
waiting for the dad blame thing to load, and it won't.

I'm quite sure someone! out there has got! to have tried getting this to work 
on Fusion aside from me.  I just need to know the necessary steps to get Fusion 
to fully load the thing, and let me install it without it hanging.

Being this is the MacVisionaries list, do realize up front that I'm not asking 
for you all to tell me how to install Linux once I get into the installer.  
Now, off list, if you all wanna give me a hand, then by all means, I will take 
all the help I can get with this, and will do so very gratefully, but on list, 
to keep this on topic, all I'm asking is, how do I set Fusion in general, and 
how do I configure the VM individually so that it will let the Sonar 
installation succeed.

According to About this Mac, this is OSX 10.11.4, and is a Mac Mini, Late 2012, 
2.5GHZ Intel I5, 8GB ram, 500GB hard disk with 199.38GB available.  No weird 
partitions, no Bootcamp, nothing.  I don't even think I have the recovery 
partition.  I think a while back when restoring from a Carbon Copy Cloner 
backup, I accidentally blew it up.  Whoops?

I'm using the USB full sized white aluminum Apple keyboard which includes the 
numeric keypad.  This is not the USB and bluetooth Magic keyboard.  This 
doesn't do bluetooth.  It's literally just the standard Apple full sized USB 
only version.

Anyway, so, there's the hardware.

I'm totally at a loss.

Any idea?

Chris.
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Re: finder with el capitan

2016-05-05 Thread Brian Fischler

Not sure why you are having this issue as I am running my finder in list view 
and the side bar is there just as it always has been there. If this is not the 
case then check the view menu to make sure you have not hidden it.
> On May 4, 2016, at 9:52 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> I believe the sidebar is not available in all view types. Sorry, I am not 
> being more specific.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3 May 2016, at 16:25, Nancy Badger  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> I finally upgraded my laptop to elcappitan. I am only having one problem so 
>> far. The finder does not appear to have a side bar. When I go to “show side 
>> bar” and interact with it or try to activate it with vo space, nothing 
>> happens. What am I doing wrong and how can I get it to look like the finder 
>> I am used to?
>> Thanks and sorry if this has been discussed previously.
>> Nancy
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Re: Voice-memos in Itunes.

2016-05-05 Thread Brian Fischler

You need to add your dropbox to the share option. I did this awhile ago so am 
typing this by memory. When you have the expanded view on a file click the 
share button then go to more and I believe dropbox was one of the options. Tap 
that and it will then appear as the last option on your share menu. Good luck.
> On May 4, 2016, at 5:24 AM, Ben J Bloomgren  wrote:
> 
> How does one connect Voice Memos to Dropbox? I know about, and I use Dropvox, 
> but how would one do so with just the standard Voice Memos app?
> 
> Ben
>> On May 3, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey the easiest way is to just add to your dropbox but if you want to import 
>> directly in to iTunes then connect your iPhone via the usb to your mac, 
>> sorry if you are asking about a PC but I would assume it is the same 
>> process. Once connected go to the bar that lists photos and how much space 
>> is taking up music, etc, hit the apply or sync button and let your phone 
>> sync after finishing all your notes from the iPhone will be listed in notes 
>> on your computer. Good luck
>>> On May 3, 2016, at 10:43 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> It was a rather long time i did moved voice memos from my Iphone to my Mac.
>>> I seem to have them in a playlist in itunes.
>>> But can someone remind me on how to transfer the memos i have on my Iphone 
>>> to Itunes?
>>> Thanks.
>>> /A
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Slack on iOS and Watch OS

2016-05-05 Thread Jenine Stanley

Is anyone successfully using Slack on iOS or Watch OS? I’m particularly 
interested in Watch OS as I’ve seen the VO focus issues on iOS. Would love to 
understand the app more and propose it for some work projects.
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reading pdf documents on the web

2016-05-05 Thread Jean

Hello:

Every so often I receive an email with a link to a pdf document in it. When I 
click on that link there appears to be no simple way to read the document. The 
url for the page on which the document is located shows up in the tab list but 
hitting vo space to select it doesn’t yield any results. Sometimes I am able to 
read the documents or download them directly but it seems to be a hit or miss 
proposition. 

Could someone tell me what I am missing?

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Re: reading pdf documents on the web

2016-05-05 Thread Anne Robertson

Hello Jean,

You’re not alone having trouble with PDFs in Safari. I can’t give you a 
fool-proof way of dealing with them, but I find that reloading the page often 
makes them accessible.
I hate things that behave so weirdly that it feels as though you need to 
perform some kind of magic to make them work.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 5 May 2016, at 14:10, Jean  wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> 
> Every so often I receive an email with a link to a pdf document in it. When I 
> click on that link there appears to be no simple way to read the document. 
> The url for the page on which the document is located shows up in the tab 
> list but hitting vo space to select it doesn’t yield any results. Sometimes I 
> am able to read the documents or download them directly but it seems to be a 
> hit or miss proposition. 
> 
> Could someone tell me what I am missing?
> 
> Jean
> 
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Re: VMWare Fusion and Sonar?

2016-05-05 Thread Carter Temm

wow, talk about sending that while I was tired. lol.  Yeah, I've installed 
ubuntu many times this way. What I ment to say is it doesn't have a screen 
reader greeting you when The installation starts

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 4, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> wrote:
> 
> First,
>  Ubuntu has a talking installer, and I'm not sure where you got the 
> impression that it didn't.
>  
> When the installer starts, hit ctrl+super key+S.
>  
> Secondly, Sonar is based on Manjaro, which is based on Arch.  At the end of 
> the day, Sonar is kind of a spin on a spin.  At the core rock bottom of the 
> kernel, it's Arch.  Unfortunately, Arch is not listed as one of the OS's, and 
> selecting either Other or Other 64 bit isn't helping.  I can't select in the 
> Linux category of OS's Other 3.0 Kernel, or Other 3.0 kernel 64 bit, as I'm 
> not totally sure what the Gnome version of Sonar uses.  I didn't download the 
> Nate version.
>  
> One thing however I noticed is, it's defaulting to building the VM with an 
> 8GB SCSI hard disk.  I'm wonderring if that may be part of my issue right 
> there.  I think Sonar requires at least 20GB for optimal performance.  I 
> could be wrong though.  Plus, I thought most drives now adays are SATA, not 
> SCSI.
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> - Original Message -
> From: Carter Temm
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 7:36 PM
> Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion and Sonar?
> 
> Hi,
> I don’t happen to know that much about this specific Distro of linux, but may 
> be able to help. For one, what is this based off? For example, Vinux is based 
> off ubuntu, so I can easily select ubuntu as an option in fusion if I want to 
> use Vinux. For me, however, I’ve stayed with mainstream distributions, such 
> as Ubuntu and Debian. The installations for those are perfectly accessible as 
> well. Sure they don’t have a talking installer at boot, but that’s to be 
> expected
>> On May 4, 2016, at 5:54 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm making this a separate thread, as this really has nothing to do with my 
>> other problem I was having.
>>  
>> Has anyone had success with the most up to date version of Sonar GNU Linux 
>> getting it installed within VMWare Fusion?  I can't put it on my Windows 
>> machine, as it's a live mission critical work system, and so I can't chance 
>> botching up that PC in any way.  This is why I bought Fusion.  Whereas most 
>> people wanna get Fusion so they can run Windows, I actually wanted it so I 
>> can test different builds of Linux.
>>  
>> Anyway, being that Sonar is not really a distro in and of itself, I mean, it 
>> is, but not really.  The kernel is based off Manjaro Linux.  I got the ISO, 
>> and then in Fusion, I told it to install another OS from an image, then 
>> browsed to the ISO.  This worked just fine.  When it asked me what OS I was 
>> using, I went to the browser, and to Linux.  I didn't see Manjaro in there, 
>> so I therefore went to Other.  Under other, I had two options:  other, or 
>> Other 64 bit.  I've tried both.  Once I do this, save the VM, then it starts 
>> to boot, the image boots just fine, I get the first little menu where you 
>> just wait, and eventually the Sonar image will load, and Orca comes up 
>> speaking the installer.  Unfortunately, at this point, that isn't 
>> happenning.  Once the menu goes away, it's hanging and going no further.  I 
>> sat here for almost an hour and a half waiting for the dad blame thing to 
>> load, and it won't.
>>  
>> I'm quite sure someone! out there has got! to have tried getting this to 
>> work on Fusion aside from me.  I just need to know the necessary steps to 
>> get Fusion to fully load the thing, and let me install it without it hanging.
>>  
>> Being this is the MacVisionaries list, do realize up front that I'm not 
>> asking for you all to tell me how to install Linux once I get into the 
>> installer.  Now, off list, if you all wanna give me a hand, then by all 
>> means, I will take all the help I can get with this, and will do so very 
>> gratefully, but on list, to keep this on topic, all I'm asking is, how do I 
>> set Fusion in general, and how do I configure the VM individually so that it 
>> will let the Sonar installation succeed.
>>  
>> According to About this Mac, this is OSX 10.11.4, and is a Mac Mini, Late 
>> 2012, 2.5GHZ Intel I5, 8GB ram, 500GB hard disk with 199.38GB available.  No 
>> weird partitions, no Bootcamp, nothing.  I don't even think I have the 
>> recovery partition.  I think a while back when restoring from a Carbon Copy 
>> Cloner backup, I accidentally blew it up.  Whoops?
>>  
>> I'm using the USB full sized white aluminum Apple keyboard which includes 
>> the numeric keypad.  This is not the USB and bluetooth Magic keyboard.  This 
>> doesn't do bluetooth.  It's literally just t

Reverting to stable release of iOS.

2016-05-05 Thread Sadam Ahmed

Hi all, 

Wondering how to get off the beta of iOS? 

I’ve removed the profile but it still says I’m running the beta. 

Thanks for any assistance. 

With Best regards, 

Sadam Ahmed 

Blog: 

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Re: Reverting to stable release of iOS.

2016-05-05 Thread syc20099

You will have to fully restore your device using iTunes on the computer. 
Additionally, you can't make a backup from beta version of iOS and expect to 
work, so it will be difficult to keep your data unless some how you are able to 
get a stable IPSW of 9.3.1

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 5, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
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> Hi all, 
> 
> Wondering how to get off the beta of iOS? 
> 
> I’ve removed the profile but it still says I’m running the beta. 
> 
> Thanks for any assistance. 
> 
> With Best regards, 
> 
> Sadam Ahmed 
> 
> Blog: 
> 
> Http://www.SadamAhmed.com 
> 
> LinkedIn: 
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Moving icons around your phone with blueTooth keyboard

2016-05-05 Thread Stacey Robinson

I want to create a folder on my iphone six to put programs like bard mobile and 
read2go  and nfb newsline.
How can I create a folder using my apple keyboard and make the apps go into it?

Blessings,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net 

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Re: Reverting to stable release of iOS.

2016-05-05 Thread Sadam Ahmed

Thanks, will give that a go. 
 
> On 6 May 2016, at 1:34 AM, syc20...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> You will have to fully restore your device using iTunes on the computer. 
> Additionally, you can't make a backup from beta version of iOS and expect to 
> work, so it will be difficult to keep your data unless some how you are able 
> to get a stable IPSW of 9.3.1
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 5, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Sadam Ahmed  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi all, 
>> 
>> Wondering how to get off the beta of iOS? 
>> 
>> I’ve removed the profile but it still says I’m running the beta. 
>> 
>> Thanks for any assistance. 
>> 
>> With Best regards, 
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed 
>> 
>> Blog: 
>> 
>> Http://www.SadamAhmed.com  
>> 
>> LinkedIn: 
>> 
>> https://au.linkedin.com/in/sadam-ahmed- 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: VMWare Fusion and Sonar?

2016-05-05 Thread Chris Gilland

gosh!

I thought seminar was a lot more popular than what it seems to be.

Go here:

http://www.sonargnulinux.com



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> On May 5, 2016, at 05:41, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yeah I’m wondering this one also?!
>  
> I’m also wondering what sonar is?
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
> Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2016 11:52 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion and Sonar?
>  
> Matthew, this is absolutely excellent!  Let me try it with this gnome desktop 
> version.  If that doesn't work, I'll go grab the Mate version.
>  
> I wonder why you'd select Windows 10, when this is Linux, not Windows, or is 
> that something you honestly can't explain, you just know it works.
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> - Original Message -
> From: matthew dyer
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 7:39 PM
> Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion and Sonar?
>  
> Hi 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Chris,
> 
>  
> 
> I have sonar running sonar mate on vmware fusion.  Here is what I did and 
> maybe this wiklll work for you.  When you tell vm what os you are running, 
> select windows 10 either 634 bit or just windows 10.  After doiung thism, you 
> should boot just fine  once you boot up, make sure you select the icon on the 
> desk top that say install manjaro linux and follow the prompts. 
> 
>  
> 
> The first couple of screens, you will wnt tto use flat review as tabing will 
> change the langwage.  Matthew
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> On 05/04/2016 06:54 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> I'm making this a separate thread, as this really has nothing to do with my 
> other problem I was having.
>  
> Has anyone had success with the most up to date version of Sonar GNU Linux 
> getting it installed within VMWare Fusion?  I can't put it on my Windows 
> machine, as it's a live mission critical work system, and so I can't chance 
> botching up that PC in any way.  This is why I bought Fusion.  Whereas most 
> people wanna get Fusion so they can run Windows, I actually wanted it so I 
> can test different builds of Linux.
>  
> Anyway, being that Sonar is not really a distro in and of itself, I mean, it 
> is, but not really.  The kernel is based off Manjaro Linux.  I got the ISO, 
> and then in Fusion, I told it to install another OS from an image, then 
> browsed to the ISO.  This worked just fine.  When it asked me what OS I was 
> using, I went to the browser, and to Linux.  I didn't see Manjaro in there, 
> so I therefore went to Other.  Under other, I had two options:  other, or 
> Other 64 bit.  I've tried both.  Once I do this, save the VM, then it starts 
> to boot, the image boots just fine, I get the first little menu where you 
> just wait, and eventually the Sonar image will load, and Orca comes up 
> speaking the installer.  Unfortunately, at this point, that isn't happenning. 
>  Once the menu goes away, it's hanging and going no further.  I sat here for 
> almost an hour and a half waiting for the dad blame thing to load, and it 
> won't.
>  
> I'm quite sure someone! out there has got! to have tried getting this to work 
> on Fusion aside from me.  I just need to know the necessary steps to get 
> Fusion to fully load the thing, and let me install it without it hanging.
>  
> Being this is the MacVisionaries list, do realize up front that I'm not 
> asking for you all to tell me how to install Linux once I get into the 
> installer.  Now, off list, if you all wanna give me a hand, then by all 
> means, I will take all the help I can get with this, and will do so very 
> gratefully, but on list, to keep this on topic, all I'm asking is, how do I 
> set Fusion in general, and how do I configure the VM individually so that it 
> will let the Sonar installation succeed.
>  
> According to About this Mac, this is OSX 10.11.4, and is a Mac Mini, Late 
> 2012, 2.5GHZ Intel I5, 8GB ram, 500GB hard disk with 199.38GB available.  No 
> weird partitions, no Bootcamp, nothing.  I don't even think I have the 
> recovery partition.  I think a while back when restoring from a Carbon Copy 
> Cloner backup, I accidentally blew it up.  Whoops?
>  
> I'm using the USB full sized white aluminum Apple keyboard which includes the 
> numeric keypad.  This is not the USB and bluetooth Magic keyboard.  This 
> doesn't do bluetooth.  It's literally just the standard Apple full sized USB 
> only version.
>  
> Anyway, so, there's the hardware.
>  
> I'm totally at a loss.
>  
> Any idea?
>  
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Re: VMWare Fusion and Sonar?

2016-05-05 Thread matthew dyer

Hi Chris.  Not sure why this is the case either, but it works and have 
been using it for some time here with no problems.



Matthew




On 05/04/2016 07:52 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Matthew, this is absolutely excellent!  Let me try it with this gnome 
desktop version.  If that doesn't work, I'll go grab the Mate version.
I wonder why you'd select Windows 10, when this is Linux, not Windows, 
or is that something you honestly can't explain, you just know it works.

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Chris,


I have sonar running sonar mate on vmware fusion.  Here is what I
did and maybe this wiklll work for you.  When you tell vm what os
you are running, select windows 10 either 634 bit or just windows
10.  After doiung thism, you should boot just fine  once you boot
up, make sure you select the icon on the desk top that say install
manjaro linux and follow the prompts.


The first couple of screens, you will wnt tto use flat review as
tabing will change the langwage.  Matthew




On 05/04/2016 06:54 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

I'm making this a separate thread, as this really has nothing to
do with my other problem I was having.
Has anyone had success with the most up to date version of Sonar
GNU Linux getting it installed within VMWare Fusion?  I can't put
it on my Windows machine, as it's a live mission critical work
system, and so I can't chance botching up that PC in any way. 
This is why I bought Fusion.  Whereas most people wanna get

Fusion so they can run Windows, I actually wanted it so I can
test different builds of Linux.
Anyway, being that Sonar is not really a distro in and of itself,
I mean, it is, but not really.  The kernel is based off Manjaro
Linux.  I got the ISO, and then in Fusion, I told it to install
another OS from an image, then browsed to the ISO.  This worked
just fine.  When it asked me what OS I was using, I went to the
browser, and to Linux.  I didn't see Manjaro in there, so I
therefore went to Other.  Under other, I had two options:  other,
or Other 64 bit.  I've tried both. Once I do this, save the VM,
then it starts to boot, the image boots just fine, I get the
first little menu where you just wait, and eventually the Sonar
image will load, and Orca comes up speaking the installer. 
Unfortunately, at this point, that isn't happenning.  Once the

menu goes away, it's hanging and going no further.  I sat here
for almost an hour and a half waiting for the dad blame thing to
load, and it won't.
I'm quite sure someone! out there has got! to have tried getting
this to work on Fusion aside from me.  I just need to know the
necessary steps to get Fusion to fully load the thing, and let me
install it without it hanging.
Being this is the MacVisionaries list, do realize up front that
I'm not asking for you all to tell me how to install Linux once I
get into the installer.  Now, off list, if you all wanna give me
a hand, then by all means, I will take all the help I can get
with this, and will do so very gratefully, but on list, to keep
this on topic, all I'm asking is, how do I set Fusion in general,
and how do I configure the VM individually so that it will let
the Sonar installation succeed.
According to About this Mac, this is OSX 10.11.4, and is a Mac
Mini, Late 2012, 2.5GHZ Intel I5, 8GB ram, 500GB hard disk with
199.38GB available.  No weird partitions, no Bootcamp, nothing. 
I don't even think I have the recovery partition.  I think a

while back when restoring from a Carbon Copy Cloner backup, I
accidentally blew it up.  Whoops?
I'm using the USB full sized white aluminum Apple keyboard which
includes the numeric keypad.  This is not the USB and bluetooth
Magic keyboard.  This doesn't do bluetooth.  It's literally just
the standard Apple full sized USB only version.
Anyway, so, there's the hardware.
I'm totally at a loss.
Any idea?
Chris.
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Re: Moving icons around your phone with blueTooth keyboard

2016-05-05 Thread E.T.

   Easy to do by using drag drop and move directly on the screen. Have 
you tried this?


   Double tap and hold an icon. As yhou move it, Voiceover will tell 
you where the icon is. If you want to move it to another page, VO will 
tell you as it approaches the border.  To create a new folder, drap an 
icon on top of another.


   Be patient, pay attention to VO and you will achieve success.

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On 5/5/2016 8:36 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

I want to create a folder on my iphone six to put programs like bard
mobile and read2go  and nfb newsline.
How can I create a folder using my apple keyboard and make the apps go
into it?

Blessings,
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A VM snapshot question

2016-05-05 Thread Bill Holton

Hi.
I have one snapshot in my VM machine.  I want to delete it so I can reclaim the 
disk space.  Only no matter what I do the delete options are grayed out.  I 
have autosnapshot set to off.  I have tried both the VM running and the VM 
closed.  Can someone walk me through how to do this?
Thanks.
Bill
 

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Re: Moving icons around your phone with blueTooth keyboard

2016-05-05 Thread Helga Schreiber

Hi E.T. How are you? How do I double tap and hold with a bluetooth keyboard? 
Just wondering! And how do I drag with Voiceover to create foldrs? I look 
forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks And God bless!

Helga Schreiber 

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> On May 5, 2016, at 1:21 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Easy to do by using drag drop and move directly on the screen. Have you 
> tried this?
> 
>   Double tap and hold an icon. As yhou move it, Voiceover will tell you where 
> the icon is. If you want to move it to another page, VO will tell you as it 
> approaches the border.  To create a new folder, drap an icon on top of 
> another.
> 
>   Be patient, pay attention to VO and you will achieve success.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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> 
>> On 5/5/2016 8:36 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>> I want to create a folder on my iphone six to put programs like bard
>> mobile and read2go  and nfb newsline.
>> How can I create a folder using my apple keyboard and make the apps go
>> into it?
>> 
>> Blessings,
>> Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
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Re: Moving icons around your phone with blueTooth keyboard

2016-05-05 Thread E.T.


   No keyboard commands I know of. Use your finger on the touch screen.

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   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 5/5/2016 12:03 PM, Helga Schreiber wrote:

Hi E.T. How are you? How do I double tap and hold with a bluetooth
keyboard? Just wondering! And how do I drag with Voiceover to create
foldrs? I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thanks And God bless!

Helga Schreiber

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of
Blind Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950
Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.as
px
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

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whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.1

On May 5, 2016, at 1:21 PM, E.T. mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:


  Easy to do by using drag drop and move directly on the screen. Have
you tried this?

  Double tap and hold an icon. As yhou move it, Voiceover will tell
you where the icon is. If you want to move it to another page, VO will
tell you as it approaches the border.  To create a new folder, drap an
icon on top of another.

  Be patient, pay attention to VO and you will achieve success.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 5/5/2016 8:36 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

I want to create a folder on my iphone six to put programs like bard
mobile and read2go  and nfb newsline.
How can I create a folder using my apple keyboard and make the apps go
into it?

Blessings,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net

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Re: iPhone 7 specs confirmed from a leaked schematic, includes 2 cameras and no iPhone jack

2016-05-05 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu

That’s my type of phone!  Now I’ll definitely get it if that is the case.

But doesn’t the power for the charger has to come from somewhere?  So won’t 
there be a plug for the socket even though your phone might sit on a mat?

Kawal.
> On 5 May 2016, at 10:06, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yes I think Samsung use a matt / platform that the phone is laid on that then 
> charges the device \through a special type of charging surface.From: 
> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Scott
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 7 specs confirmed from a leaked schematic, includes 2 
> cameras and no iPhone jack
> 
> Wireless charging is a system where you beam the electricity through the air 
> to the device to charge it.  Basically, I think it uses the principles of 
> inductance to transfer the electricity to the battery.  You generally have a 
> matt or area that you set your phone in and it charges while resting.  Coffee 
> shops have this options available in many places.
> 
> 
>> On May 4, 2016, at 8:14 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, think I’m a little out of the loop here, what is wireless charging?
>>> On May 3, 2016, at 10:22 PM, Robin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Rumored WirelessCharging may OffSet the LackOf a HeadphoneJack
>>> 
>>> Finally Apple will have WirelessCharging on their MobilePhones 
>>> (iPhones) At 06:13 AM 5/3/2016, you wrote:
 Personally, I donâ€™t think the headphone jack will come back ever again.  
 It will take some getting used too, but, I understand why it is being 
 done.  The more important thing to me is that the new iPhone hopefully, 
 will be water proofed or, at least a lot more water resistant.
 
 
> On Apr 28, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> I'm curious HowMany People will OverLook the LackOf a HeadPhoneJack on 
> either the iPhone7 or iPhone7+ (i.e., iPhone7PRO), & Give this iPhone a 
> Chance.
> 
> OR
> 
> Will People SitBack & wait for Apple to ReIntroduce the 
> HeadPhoneJack in another iPhone InTheFuture quite possibly the iPhone8 
> (because the iPhone7S & iPhone7S+ & iPhone7PRO will likely be the 
> SameDesign as the 7) At 05:55 AM 4/28/2016, you wrote:
>> Redmond Pie is reporting that a leaked iPhone 7 schematic appeared in a 
>> japanese magazine and confirms many of the rumors out there.  The iPhone 
>> 7+ also called the Pro will include dual cameras for stereoscopic 
>> vision, no head phone jack and a smart connector on the back.  Also 
>> appears to have a touch sensitive home button and a similar size to the 
>> iPhone 6s+.
>> 
>> Read more here
>> 
>> http://www.redmondpie.com/rumored-iphone-7-plus-features-and-desig
>> n-specs-confirmed-by-schematics-leak/
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turning off sounds

2016-05-05 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli

Hi:
I just updated to el capatan. Ye, better late than never. LOL I hear extra 
sounds in safari, mail, and itunes. Can I turn these off? I looked under vo 
sounds, and all those are unchecked.
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Re: turning off sounds

2016-05-05 Thread E.T.


   Try System prefs, sounds.

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On 5/5/2016 1:01 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:

Hi:
I just updated to el capatan. Ye, better late than never. LOL I hear extra 
sounds in safari, mail, and itunes. Can I turn these off? I looked under vo 
sounds, and all those are unchecked.
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Re: turning off sounds

2016-05-05 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli

No luck! Tried turning off sound effects.
> On May 5, 2016, at 3:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
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>> I just updated to el capatan. Ye, better late than never. LOL I hear extra 
>> sounds in safari, mail, and itunes. Can I turn these off? I looked under vo 
>> sounds, and all those are unchecked.
>> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
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Re: turning off sounds

2016-05-05 Thread E.T.


   Must be System prefs. notifications then.

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On 5/5/2016 1:49 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:

No luck! Tried turning off sound effects.

On May 5, 2016, at 3:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:

   Try System prefs, sounds.

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Hi:
I just updated to el capatan. Ye, better late than never. LOL I hear extra 
sounds in safari, mail, and itunes. Can I turn these off? I looked under vo 
sounds, and all those are unchecked.
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Re: reading pdf documents on the web

2016-05-05 Thread Terje Strømberg

Usually command + s opens a save dialog box, choose to save in documents for 
example and hit ok button. Open it from documents. If it is troublesome to 
read, you have the option to buy Fine Reader Pro and convert the pdf to text 
and open it in text edit or maybe Pages. 

Take care


> 5. mai 2016 kl. 15.10 skrev Anne Robertson :
> 
> Hello Jean,
> 
> You’re not alone having trouble with PDFs in Safari. I can’t give you a 
> fool-proof way of dealing with them, but I find that reloading the page often 
> makes them accessible.
> I hate things that behave so weirdly that it feels as though you need to 
> perform some kind of magic to make them work.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 5 May 2016, at 14:10, Jean  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello:
>> 
>> Every so often I receive an email with a link to a pdf document in it. When 
>> I click on that link there appears to be no simple way to read the document. 
>> The url for the page on which the document is located shows up in the tab 
>> list but hitting vo space to select it doesn’t yield any results. Sometimes 
>> I am able to read the documents or download them directly but it seems to be 
>> a hit or miss proposition. 
>> 
>> Could someone tell me what I am missing?
>> 
>> Jean
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Re: VMWare Fusion and Sonar?

2016-05-05 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Apparently, the newest installer is really really really buggy.  I know this as 
I literally spoke to Kyle Brouhard, who I think is one of the main maintainers 
of the  project, if I'm not mistaking.  Oh well, I guess I'll just have to try 
another distro.  Darnit all!
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  Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion and Sonar?


  Hi Chris.  Not sure why this is the case either, but it works and have been 
using it for some time here with no problems.




  Matthew









  On 05/04/2016 07:52 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Matthew, this is absolutely excellent!  Let me try it with this gnome 
desktop version.  If that doesn't work, I'll go grab the Mate version.

I wonder why you'd select Windows 10, when this is Linux, not Windows, or 
is that something you honestly can't explain, you just know it works.
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  Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion and Sonar?


  Hi 
























































  Chris,




  I have sonar running sonar mate on vmware fusion.  Here is what I did and 
maybe this wiklll work for you.  When you tell vm what os you are running, 
select windows 10 either 634 bit or just windows 10.  After doiung thism, you 
should boot just fine  once you boot up, make sure you select the icon on the 
desk top that say install manjaro linux and follow the prompts.  





  The first couple of screens, you will wnt tto use flat review as tabing 
will change the langwage.  Matthew









  On 05/04/2016 06:54 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

I'm making this a separate thread, as this really has nothing to do 
with my other problem I was having.

Has anyone had success with the most up to date version of Sonar GNU 
Linux getting it installed within VMWare Fusion?  I can't put it on my Windows 
machine, as it's a live mission critical work system, and so I can't chance 
botching up that PC in any way.  This is why I bought Fusion.  Whereas most 
people wanna get Fusion so they can run Windows, I actually wanted it so I can 
test different builds of Linux.

Anyway, being that Sonar is not really a distro in and of itself, I 
mean, it is, but not really.  The kernel is based off Manjaro Linux.  I got the 
ISO, and then in Fusion, I told it to install another OS from an image, then 
browsed to the ISO.  This worked just fine.  When it asked me what OS I was 
using, I went to the browser, and to Linux.  I didn't see Manjaro in there, so 
I therefore went to Other.  Under other, I had two options:  other, or Other 64 
bit.  I've tried both.  Once I do this, save the VM, then it starts to boot, 
the image boots just fine, I get the first little menu where you just wait, and 
eventually the Sonar image will load, and Orca comes up speaking the installer. 
 Unfortunately, at this point, that isn't happenning.  Once the menu goes away, 
it's hanging and going no further.  I sat here for almost an hour and a half 
waiting for the dad blame thing to load, and it won't.

I'm quite sure someone! out there has got! to have tried getting this 
to work on Fusion aside from me.  I just need to know the necessary steps to 
get Fusion to fully load the thing, and let me install it without it hanging.

Being this is the MacVisionaries list, do realize up front that I'm not 
asking for you all to tell me how to install Linux once I get into the 
installer.  Now, off list, if you all wanna give me a hand, then by all means, 
I will take all the help I can get with this, and will do so very gratefully, 
but on list, to keep this on topic, all I'm asking is, how do I set Fusion in 
general, and how do I configure the VM individually so that it will let the 
Sonar installation succeed.

According to About this Mac, this is OSX 10.11.4, and is a Mac Mini, 
Late 2012, 2.5GHZ Intel I5, 8GB ram, 500GB hard disk with 199.38GB available.  
No weird partitions, no Bootcamp, nothing.  I don't even think I have the 
recovery partition.  I think a while back when restoring from a Carbon Copy 
Cloner backup, I accidentally blew it up.  Whoops?

I'm using the USB full sized white aluminum Apple keyboard which 
includes the numeric keypad.  This is not the USB and bluetooth Magic keyboard. 
 This doesn't do bluetooth.  It's literally just the standard Apple full sized 
USB only version.

Anyway, so, there's the hardware.

I'm totally at a loss.

Any idea?

Chris.
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Re: Very perplexing issue with VMWare Fusion 8

2016-05-05 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Actually, from what I understand, that keystroke has been depricated.
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  Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 5:19 AM
  Subject: RE: Very perplexing issue with VMWare Fusion 8


  Hi Chris,

   

  I’m trying to remember this but I thought it was something like ctrl plus G 
to take / open the vm windowI’ll have to check that one tomorrow but does 
voicevover not speak the key shortcuts to put the vm in focus?

   

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  Importance: High

   

  OK, this is on El Capitan 10.11.4, and am using VMWare Fusion 8.1.1.

   

  I'm totally confused here.  I downloaded the ISO image of Ubuntu 16.04 
Desktop, and am trying to get the darn thing to install, but am having some 
issues.  I'm not sure if this is related to Ubuntu, or to Fusion.  Let me 
clarify and make this very clear.  This is not one of the blind related 
modified distros based on Ubuntu.  This isn't Vinux, F123, Sonar, which no 
longer is based on that distro anyway, but you get the point.  This is just 
native Ubuntu.

   

  I elected to not do the easy install, so that this way, I could have it 
manually boot to the image, and from there, I could install the OS with speech 
using Orca.  I have enough vision to see when the screen pops up with the 
installer.

   

  I noticed that by default, the window is not in full screen view, unless I 
hit ctrl+command+F.  Even not doing this though, I see two windows.  The VMWare 
Fusion window, and the main VM Library window.

   

  If I press VO+F2 F2 to go to the window chooser, it tells me that the current 
window is my VM.  OK, that's cool.  Now, someone told me to make it gain 
keyboard control, I just need to be in that window, then hit shift+Tab.  Then 
to release  control, hit left ctrl+left command.

   

  OK, so here's the problem.  once I see the installation come up, I'm hitting 
VO+F2 F2, making sure I'm in the VM window, then hitting shift+Tab to give the 
VM keyboard control.  This isn't appearing to work though, as after doing this, 
if I hit VO+M to go to the menu bar, it's working.  My VM's not interpretting 
those keys.  What's weirder is, When I focus on the VM window, I here that it's 
interacted me automatically with the toolbar, and placed me on the suspend 
button.  Therefore, when I try hitting alt+windows+S, also known as 
alt+Super+S, to start up Orca, it's not launching.  I tried also ctrl+S, but no 
good.  I even hit alt+F2 to get to the run dialog, typing orca, then hitting 
enter.  NO good.  So, I really really suspect that somehow, my VM's not getting 
keyboard control.  So, ultimately, my question is, how in the world do I deal 
with this?  Does the VM not gain control right away when you boot the machine?  
What could I maybe be doing wrong?

   

  Chris.

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Re: Very perplexing issue with VMWare Fusion 8

2016-05-05 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

You got that version backwards.  I think you meant 16.04.  Not 04.16.  LOL!

I'm using 16.04.
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  Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 5:32 AM
  Subject: RE: Very perplexing issue with VMWare Fusion 8


  Hi Chris,

   

  Just wondering which Ubuntu version it is your working with for your VM?

   

  04 16 or something earlier?

   

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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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  Huge Tarzanne cry!

   

  Actually, I figured out the problem... well... part of my proboem.  How's 
that?  I have Voiceover set to be routed through a really cheap little pair of 
PC speakers, so that it's localized away from my big studio monitors that I use 
when I am doing my audio production work.  I have all the other system sounds 
set to be routed through my audio interface which has its main out going to my 
monitors.  What I didn't realize was that the damn interface came unplugged.  
Suffice it to say, I! r'really! feel friggin stupid right about now!  I am such 
a dork!  I can't believe that it never until last minute dawned on me to check 
that.  Deh... And I'm suppose to be I.T.  Earth callen Shirlock!  LOL!  I say 
part of my problem as now, when I get to the part of the Ubuntu installer where 
I tell it to erase the whole disk, then I select the virtual SCSI drive that it 
created for the VM, it appears either the installer is hanging when I hit space 
on the next button, or, Orca's crashing, and not letting me restart it.

   

  Anyone care to explain that one?  I don't get it!

   

  Chris.

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Re: Very perplexing issue with VMWare Fusion 8

2016-05-05 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

BTW, I was referring to Sonar, see my other thread, as far as the buggy 
installer.  Although that said, Ubuntu's not seeming to be much better.
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  Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 5:32 AM
  Subject: RE: Very perplexing issue with VMWare Fusion 8


  Hi Chris,

   

  Just wondering which Ubuntu version it is your working with for your VM?

   

  04 16 or something earlier?

   

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  Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2016 10:35 AM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Very perplexing issue with VMWare Fusion 8

   

  Huge Tarzanne cry!

   

  Actually, I figured out the problem... well... part of my proboem.  How's 
that?  I have Voiceover set to be routed through a really cheap little pair of 
PC speakers, so that it's localized away from my big studio monitors that I use 
when I am doing my audio production work.  I have all the other system sounds 
set to be routed through my audio interface which has its main out going to my 
monitors.  What I didn't realize was that the damn interface came unplugged.  
Suffice it to say, I! r'really! feel friggin stupid right about now!  I am such 
a dork!  I can't believe that it never until last minute dawned on me to check 
that.  Deh... And I'm suppose to be I.T.  Earth callen Shirlock!  LOL!  I say 
part of my problem as now, when I get to the part of the Ubuntu installer where 
I tell it to erase the whole disk, then I select the virtual SCSI drive that it 
created for the VM, it appears either the installer is hanging when I hit space 
on the next button, or, Orca's crashing, and not letting me restart it.

   

  Anyone care to explain that one?  I don't get it!

   

  Chris.

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Re: Slack on iOS and Watch OS

2016-05-05 Thread Kevin Chao

I've used Slack on Watch and iOS?
Watch is allows reading mentions and messages with VoiceOver
On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 4:48 AM Jenine Stanley 
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> Is anyone successfully using Slack on iOS or Watch OS? I’m particularly
> interested in Watch OS as I’ve seen the VO focus issues on iOS. Would love
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Re: Slack on iOS and Watch OS

2016-05-05 Thread Jenine Stanley

I saw how Slack allowed reading Direct messages and mentions but not general 
list messages. 

The focus issue drove me away from the iOS version.
Jenine Stanley
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> On May 5, 2016, at 8:14 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:
> 
> I've used Slack on Watch and iOS?
> Watch is allows reading mentions and messages with VoiceOver
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 4:48 AM Jenine Stanley  > wrote:
> Is anyone successfully using Slack on iOS or Watch OS? I’m particularly 
> interested in Watch OS as I’ve seen the VO focus issues on iOS. Would love to 
> understand the app more and propose it for some work projects.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
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Re: Slack on iOS and Watch OS

2016-05-05 Thread Jonathan Cohn

I head heard it was entirely inaccessible and that the vendor did not have 
plans to make SLAC usable by the blind. Are there any on-line guides for the 
blind on using slap with any environment?

Best wishes,

Jonathan



> On 5 May 2016, at 20:14, Kevin Chao  wrote:
> 
> I've used Slack on Watch and iOS?
> Watch is allows reading mentions and messages with VoiceOver
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 4:48 AM Jenine Stanley  > wrote:
> Is anyone successfully using Slack on iOS or Watch OS? I’m particularly 
> interested in Watch OS as I’ve seen the VO focus issues on iOS. Would love to 
> understand the app more and propose it for some work projects.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com 
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Re: turning off sounds

2016-05-05 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli

No luck. I here the sounds when web pages load, itunes load, I hit reply to 
mail.
> On May 5, 2016, at 4:12 PM, E.T.  wrote:
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>   Must be System prefs. notifications then.
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> On 5/5/2016 1:49 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
>> No luck! Tried turning off sound effects.
>>> On May 5, 2016, at 3:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
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>>>   Try System prefs, sounds.
>>> 
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>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 5/5/2016 1:01 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
 Hi:
 I just updated to el capatan. Ye, better late than never. LOL I hear extra 
 sounds in safari, mail, and itunes. Can I turn these off? I looked under 
 vo sounds, and all those are unchecked.
 Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
 
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Re: turning off sounds

2016-05-05 Thread Jeffrey Shockley

Hi,
It might be VoiceOver. Check under the Audio category in VoiceOver Utility. I 
say that because some new sounds for interacting were added. Also, if that’s 
not it, go into System Preferences, click Notifications button, Interact with 
the Applications table that lists applications that can send notifications, and 
see if one of them is causing extra sounds to play.
I hope this helps,
Jeffrey
> On May 5, 2016, at 10:09 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
> No luck. I here the sounds when web pages load, itunes load, I hit reply to 
> mail.
>> On May 5, 2016, at 4:12 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>  Must be System prefs. notifications then.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 5/5/2016 1:49 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
>>> No luck! Tried turning off sound effects.
 On May 5, 2016, at 3:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
  Try System prefs, sounds.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 Many believe that we have been visited
 in the past. What if it were true?
 
 On 5/5/2016 1:01 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
> Hi:
> I just updated to el capatan. Ye, better late than never. LOL I hear 
> extra sounds in safari, mail, and itunes. Can I turn these off? I looked 
> under vo sounds, and all those are unchecked.
> Sarai D. Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli
> 
 
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RE: Reverting to stable release of iOS.

2016-05-05 Thread Simon Fogarty

Hi Sadam,

Yeah I found that when I wanted to go back to the production release of IOS I 
had to do the restore where you


1.   Turn the phone off completely,

2.   Connect the usb cable to your computer,

3.3. When you plug the lightening connector into your  Phone make sure 
you are holding down the home and power buttons at the same time as you plug it 
in,

4.Then I think from memory it’s let the power button go after approx. 8 
seconds,

5.   Then a couple of seconds later release the home button and if your 
computer prompts you follow those prompts.
This for me got rid of the beta

Hope that helps.



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On Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed
Sent: Friday, 6 May 2016 3:02 AM
To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Reverting to stable release of iOS.

Hi all,

Wondering how to get off the beta of iOS?

I’ve removed the profile but it still says I’m running the beta.

Thanks for any assistance.

With Best regards,

Sadam Ahmed

Blog:

Http://www.SadamAhmed.com

LinkedIn:

https://au.linkedin.com/in/sadam-ahmed-





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