Re: Watch Screen Responsiveness with VoiceOver

[Nicholas Parsons]

Thanks, all, for the feedback. I had heard that the IPX7 water resistant rating 
meant it could be submerged in water up to a depth of 1m for up to 30 mins. The 
Apple Store staff member who helped me try on the watch said they don’t 
recommend waring it in the shower, but then I read that Tim Cook wears his in 
the shower. But then again I suppose Tim Cook doesn’t need to worry about 
needing to buy a new one if anything happens to his while wearing it in the 
shower. One other issue, I suppose, with waring it in the shower is if soap 
gets into it. Maybe it can handle water but I don’t know about soap.

Anyway, I took it to the Genius Bar today. They did some diagnostic testing and 
said there seemed to be a software issue. AS the Watch is such a new product, 
further testing would require them sending it off site, possibly taking up to 
one week. I don’t really want to be without my watch for a week, so at the 
Genius’s suggestion I’m just going to try resetting the Watch settings and 
then the iPhone settings. Before doing that I might just try restarting the 
Watch regularly as you all are suggesting.

So it seems others aren’t having any issues with the Watch activating on 
wrist-raise even with speak on wrist-raise turned off, is that right? Can any 
others of you confirm that?

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Re: watch apps

[Nicholas Parsons]

TripView is used for getting timetables for public transport. It updates in 
real time with delays and changes etc. It can use your location to show you the 
next train, bus, ferry etc departing from the nearest stop to you. So for 
instance, I have it set up so that I just swipe up from my clock face on my 
watch and I can see when my next train is departing and from which platform. I 
have it set up so it only shows me the trains I actually want to catch. I don’t 
know about Brisbane but I don’t see why not. The app does pull data from the 
iPHone but there is rarely any noticeable lag or whatever. It works really well.

Complications are the customisable little bits of information displayed on your 
clock face. These include things like weather, time, calendar appointments, 
activity, date etc; I don’t think there are any specifically for heart rate. 
There is a “glance” for heart rate, though, but glances are something slightly 
different. Glances are a whole screen of information, including from third 
party apps, which you get to by swiping up from the clock face.



> On 25 Jun 2015, at 8:32 pm, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
> 
> Trip view? Does it give some kind of location data? I’m sure they have one 
> for Brisbane. But those 3rd party apps are streamed through the phone, right?
> 
> Also, excuse my lack of experience. Complications as those tidbits of 
> information about calories spent, heart rate time and weather, am I correct?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
>> On 25/06/2015, at 8:23 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That depends where you live. I love the TripView app for Sydney, Australia. 
>> Fat Secret is a good app, despite the terrible name, for counting calories. 
>> The apps for my banks are also really good. Other than those and the ones 
>> you mentioned, I mostly use the native apps and, most of all, the 
>> complications.
>> 
>> On 24 Jan 2015, at 10:26 pm, Yuma Decaux  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> So now I know how to use this thing. Is there any app anyone can suggest I 
>> install outside uber, and dark cloud ?
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Re: Hourly Precipitation on the Watch

[Nicholas Parsons]

Just a follow up on this one. The weather app now seems far more accessible to 
me with VoiceOver on the Watch. Each hour is an item which VoiceOver focus can 
flick to, just as on the phone. This is whether viewing it in the weather app 
or by Siri. Odd, as I’m running the same Watch OS as before. There doesn’t seem 
to have been a software update, yet it seems to have improved. On this last 
point, I’ve also noticed that Siri no longer asks me to confirm a reminder. She 
just says she’ll remind me, and there’s a button to remove the reminder if I 
want. This is much better as most of the time she gets it right anyway and 
confirming just becomes an unnecessary extra step. But interesting that this 
seems to have come about without an OS update.

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Re: An awesome discovery on the Mac

[Andrew Lamanche]

This is not necessarily a new feature.  It was available in earlier versions of 
OS before it was broken in Maverick, if I can remember correctly.  So this is 
not new, but it looks like it has been repaired thanks to many of us 
complaining, if I remember well.
> On 28 Jun 2015, at 06:43, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> Hey its something to look forward to, and the fact that this is about Mail 
> gives me the impression that mail is a whole lot more usable and kind of, 
> well not exactly fun but, yes, enjoyable.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 4:09 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Urgent apologies folks, please disregard. Not my fault though; an accidental 
>> leak of confidential details. See I thought this could be done in Yosemite, 
>> and so did someone else who shall remain nameless, but after double checking 
>> we discovered this, in fact, couldn't be done in Yosemite. Oh well, the cat 
>> is out of its bag now. These things happen with prerelease software, so 
>> please try not to come down on us for things like this. Thank you, and once 
>> again urgent apologies folks and please, please, disregard.
>> 
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>>> On 27 Jun 2015, at 22:02, christopher hallsworth  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> Discovered something awesome on the Mac tonight. Want to copy an address, 
>>> write a new email, add a sender to contacts etc? No problem! Here's how to 
>>> do it:
>>> 
>>> 1. In Mail, open a message or interact with the message content scroll area.
>>> 
>>> 2. Interact with the message headers group.
>>> 
>>> 3. Find the contact of interest using VO-arrow keys, then VO-space to 
>>> activate. A nice little menu with options such as copy address and add to 
>>> contacts should appear.
>>> 
>>> To me, this reminds me a lot like Thunderbird on Windows where you can 
>>> right click a contact and a similar menu appears.
>>> 
>>> Let me know your thoughts.
>>> Regards Chris
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Re: An awesome discovery on the Mac

[Henry D. Hollithron]

Good Day:

in point of fact and for what it’s worth, you could still achieve this 
effect with VO-shift-space in Maverics. In Yosemite, however, there seems to be 
no way to bring up the menu.

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> On 28 Jun 2015, at 02:15, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> This is not necessarily a new feature.  It was available in earlier versions 
> of OS before it was broken in Maverick, if I can remember correctly.  So this 
> is not new, but it looks like it has been repaired thanks to many of us 
> complaining, if I remember well.
>> On 28 Jun 2015, at 06:43, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey its something to look forward to, and the fact that this is about Mail 
>> gives me the impression that mail is a whole lot more usable and kind of, 
>> well not exactly fun but, yes, enjoyable.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 4:09 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Urgent apologies folks, please disregard. Not my fault though; an 
>>> accidental leak of confidential details. See I thought this could be done 
>>> in Yosemite, and so did someone else who shall remain nameless, but after 
>>> double checking we discovered this, in fact, couldn't be done in Yosemite. 
>>> Oh well, the cat is out of its bag now. These things happen with prerelease 
>>> software, so please try not to come down on us for things like this. Thank 
>>> you, and once again urgent apologies folks and please, please, disregard.
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
 On 27 Jun 2015, at 22:02, christopher hallsworth  
 wrote:
 
 Hi all
 Discovered something awesome on the Mac tonight. Want to copy an address, 
 write a new email, add a sender to contacts etc? No problem! Here's how to 
 do it:
 
 1. In Mail, open a message or interact with the message content scroll 
 area.
 
 2. Interact with the message headers group.
 
 3. Find the contact of interest using VO-arrow keys, then VO-space to 
 activate. A nice little menu with options such as copy address and add to 
 contacts should appear.
 
 To me, this reminds me a lot like Thunderbird on Windows where you can 
 right click a contact and a similar menu appears.
 
 Let me know your thoughts.
 Regards Chris
 
 
 
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Re: An awesome discovery on the Mac

[christopher hallsworth]

I believe simulateds mouse commands were broken in Yosemite. I can of course 
not confirm nor deny if this is fixed in El Capitan.


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> On 28 Jun 2015, at 09:24, Henry D. Hollithron  wrote:
> 
> Good Day:
> 
>   in point of fact and for what it’s worth, you could still achieve this 
> effect with VO-shift-space in Maverics. In Yosemite, however, there seems to 
> be no way to bring up the menu.
> 
> Henry
> 
> Education never ends. It is a series of lessons with the greatest for the 
> last.
> Sherlock Holmes
> 
>> On 28 Jun 2015, at 02:15, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> This is not necessarily a new feature.  It was available in earlier versions 
>> of OS before it was broken in Maverick, if I can remember correctly.  So 
>> this is not new, but it looks like it has been repaired thanks to many of us 
>> complaining, if I remember well.
>>> On 28 Jun 2015, at 06:43, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey its something to look forward to, and the fact that this is about Mail 
>>> gives me the impression that mail is a whole lot more usable and kind of, 
>>> well not exactly fun but, yes, enjoyable.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 27, 2015, at 4:09 PM, christopher hallsworth 
  wrote:
 
 Urgent apologies folks, please disregard. Not my fault though; an 
 accidental leak of confidential details. See I thought this could be done 
 in Yosemite, and so did someone else who shall remain nameless, but after 
 double checking we discovered this, in fact, couldn't be done in Yosemite. 
 Oh well, the cat is out of its bag now. These things happen with 
 prerelease software, so please try not to come down on us for things like 
 this. Thank you, and once again urgent apologies folks and please, please, 
 disregard.
 
 
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> On 27 Jun 2015, at 22:02, christopher hallsworth 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> Discovered something awesome on the Mac tonight. Want to copy an address, 
> write a new email, add a sender to contacts etc? No problem! Here's how 
> to do it:
> 
> 1. In Mail, open a message or interact with the message content scroll 
> area.
> 
> 2. Interact with the message headers group.
> 
> 3. Find the contact of interest using VO-arrow keys, then VO-space to 
> activate. A nice little menu with options such as copy address and add to 
> contacts should appear.
> 
> To me, this reminds me a lot like Thunderbird on Windows where you can 
> right click a contact and a similar menu appears.
> 
> Let me know your thoughts.
> Regards Chris
> 
> 
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RE: An awesome discovery on the Mac

[Debbie Yuille]

Oops. Lol Thanks for the tip anyway.

Debbie
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Urgent apologies folks, please disregard. Not my fault though; an accidental 
leak of confidential details. See I thought this could be done in Yosemite, and 
so did someone else who shall remain nameless, but after double checking we 
discovered this, in fact, couldn't be done in Yosemite. Oh well, the cat is out 
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> On 27 Jun 2015, at 22:02, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> Discovered something awesome on the Mac tonight. Want to copy an address, 
> write a new email, add a sender to contacts etc? No problem! Here's how to do 
> it:
> 
> 1. In Mail, open a message or interact with the message content scroll area.
> 
> 2. Interact with the message headers group.
> 
> 3. Find the contact of interest using VO-arrow keys, then VO-space to 
> activate. A nice little menu with options such as copy address and add to 
> contacts should appear.
> 
> To me, this reminds me a lot like Thunderbird on Windows where you can right 
> click a contact and a similar menu appears.
> 
> Let me know your thoughts.
> Regards Chris
> 
> 
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Glances in Apple Watch

['Graham' via MacVisionaries]

Hi, 

Sorry if this has already been covered before. 
Yesterday I bit the bullet and bought the Apple Watch 38mm edition. So far I’m 
really enjoying it. 
However there is a small issue I’m encountering which could be me an inherent 
fault or Vo problem. 
When I go to glances, when I do the two finger swipe left or right gesture it 
very rarely works. I can get round this by doing the one finger swipe up or 
down to next or previous glance so its not a game changer. 
Just wondered has anyone else come across this problem? 
Fyi, I have updated the watch to the latest IOS version 1.1 via my iPhone. 

Thanks for any help or advice received. 

Warm regards

Graham

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Re: Watch Screen Responsiveness with VoiceOver

[Jenine Stanley]

I occasionally have an issue where Siri won’t activate on wrist raise and I 
have speak with wrist raise off. It works most of the time but you have to wait 
like 2 seconds after you raise your wrist to call on Siri, it’s not immediate. 
Of course this morning when I’m trying it,it won’t work unless I’ve tapped the 
watch face to wake it up so you may be on to something but my Watch needs to be 
paired again to fix some issues. You may try unpinning it and pairing it again. 
that seems to help here.  
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> On Jun 28, 2015, at 3:14 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, all, for the feedback. I had heard that the IPX7 water resistant 
> rating meant it could be submerged in water up to a depth of 1m for up to 30 
> mins. The Apple Store staff member who helped me try on the watch said they 
> don’t recommend waring it in the shower, but then I read that Tim Cook wears 
> his in the shower. But then again I suppose Tim Cook doesn’t need to worry 
> about needing to buy a new one if anything happens to his while wearing it in 
> the shower. One other issue, I suppose, with waring it in the shower is if 
> soap gets into it. Maybe it can handle water but I don’t know about soap.
> 
> Anyway, I took it to the Genius Bar today. They did some diagnostic testing 
> and said there seemed to be a software issue. AS the Watch is such a new 
> product, further testing would require them sending it off site, possibly 
> taking up to one week. I don’t really want to be without my watch for a week, 
> so at the Genius’s suggestion I’m just going to try resetting the Watch 
> settings and then the iPhone settings. Before doing that I might just try 
> restarting the Watch regularly as you all are suggesting.
> 
> So it seems others aren’t having any issues with the Watch activating on 
> wrist-raise even with speak on wrist-raise turned off, is that right? Can any 
> others of you confirm that?
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RE: Glances in Apple Watch

[george b]

I have the same issue trying to do any kind of 2 finger swipe.  I have big 
fingers and can not get them apart far enough on the small screen to have v o 
recognize them as a 2 finger swipe.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 05:49
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Glances in Apple Watch

Hi, 

Sorry if this has already been covered before. 
Yesterday I bit the bullet and bought the Apple Watch 38mm edition. So far I’m 
really enjoying it. 
However there is a small issue I’m encountering which could be me an inherent 
fault or Vo problem. 
When I go to glances, when I do the two finger swipe left or right gesture it 
very rarely works. I can get round this by doing the one finger swipe up or 
down to next or previous glance so its not a game changer. 
Just wondered has anyone else come across this problem? 
Fyi, I have updated the watch to the latest IOS version 1.1 via my iPhone. 

Thanks for any help or advice received. 

Warm regards

Graham

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Re: Glances in Apple Watch

[Jenine Stanley]

Hi, 

I had the most trouble with this when first using my Watch too. Let me see if I 
can explain how I finally dealt with it. 

I assumed that like the phone, to do the 2-finger swipe right and left, you 
placed your fingers horizontally on the screen with your hands perpendicular to 
each other. Your swiping hand, which in my case is my right hand, is facing the 
Watch and going the same direction as the band. 

I have a 38mm Watch and I don’t have large fingertips. they aren’t dainty 
either and no long nails to worry about. 

The swipe gesture didn’t work though. 

I found that in order to swipe, I had to put my fingers on the Watch 
vertically. I put my right hand on top of my left hand, right hand fingers 
facing my elbow and swipe toward and away from my elbow to get the desired 
result. Works almost every time. You do have  to swipe straight which is 
another issue. I found I was accidentally angling my fingers no matter how I 
swiped. 

the vertical swipe though seems to work better than the horizontal way. 

As always though your mileage may vary. 

Jenine Stanley
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> On Jun 28, 2015, at 8:49 AM, 'Graham' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> Sorry if this has already been covered before. 
> Yesterday I bit the bullet and bought the Apple Watch 38mm edition. So far 
> I’m really enjoying it. 
> However there is a small issue I’m encountering which could be me an inherent 
> fault or Vo problem. 
> When I go to glances, when I do the two finger swipe left or right gesture it 
> very rarely works. I can get round this by doing the one finger swipe up or 
> down to next or previous glance so its not a game changer. 
> Just wondered has anyone else come across this problem? 
> Fyi, I have updated the watch to the latest IOS version 1.1 via my iPhone. 
> 
> Thanks for any help or advice received. 
> 
> Warm regards
> 
> Graham
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Re: Trouble with iTunes

[Ben Constantini]

Hi guys , thanks for all the suggestions . I will try them today and report 
back later .

Thanks , Ben  C
> On Jun 27, 2015, at 8:42 PM, Ben Constantini  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris , Thanks but I tried  command + the left and right arrows too and  
> that only took me to the next album.  The volume , mute ,pause  controls all 
> seem to work okay.   I am sure it is something simple that I am not doing .
> 
> Thanks , Ben C.
>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 8:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > > wrote:
>> 
>> Dono why it's stopping after each track.  That's bizarre, however I can tell 
>> you why your arrow keys aren't working.
>>  
>> It's actually command! left and right arrow, not just left and right arrow 
>> by themselves.  Then, if you wanna rewind or fast forward, that's 
>> command+option+left and right arrows.  command+option+down arrow is mute, 
>> then if you want to unute, just raise your volume with command+up arrow 
>> until the desired level.
>>  
>> Chris.
>>  
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: N2KPV 
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 7:55 PM
>>> Subject: Trouble with iTunes
>>> 
>>> Hi guys,  I hope this is a simple question with a simple answer . I haven't 
>>> used iTunes in a while and when I tried to use it today , the left and 
>>> right arrows do not  go to the next track . Also , when playing an album it 
>>> will play a song and than stop without proceeding to the next track .  I 
>>> hope it is something stupid that I am doing or not doing .  I am having 
>>> this problem on my mac . My iPhone is working fine.
>>> 
>>> Thanks , Ben C.
>>> 
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Can someone explain how to add Facebook to Messages

[Donna Goodin]

Good morning, all,

I've been trying to figure out how to get my FB account connected to Messages.  
I have it set up in Internet Accounts, but the only apps affiliated with it are 
Calendar and Contacts, and I don't see a way to add Messages.  So I went into 
Messages, but FB is not one of the new account options, even under Other 
Account Type.  any help would be much appreciated.
Cheers,
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Re: Can someone explain how to add Facebook to Messages

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Posted from the earlier discussions on this list with a few clarifications:

Open the Messages app on the Mac if you haven’t done so yet

Pull down the “Messages” menu and choose “Add Account…”

>From the message account screen, choose “Other messages account…” and click on 
>“Continue”

Pull down the menu next to “Account Type” and select ‘Jabber’ from the list
In “Account Name” enter your Facebook account user name as follows:

yourusern...@chat.facebook.com (the Facebook username is whatever your Facebook 
profile URL is, for example:  if you're logged into FaceBook on your Mac, go up 
to the Address field and it should read, "www.facebook.com/your_username’
therefore, the username would be “your_usern...@chat.facebook.com” and the 
account name would then be your_usern...@chat.facebook.com)
Enter your Facebook account password in the password field, this is the same 
one you use to login to Facebook from the web or the apps

Ignore all other settings and choose “Create” – this will setup Facebook 
messaging client and in a moment you’ll see your Facebook Friends list populate 
as a buddy list, complete with friend names and friend profile pictures

Message anyone in the list as usual, the conversations are going through 
Facebook Messenger

You can access the Facebook Friends buddy list at any time from the “Windows” 
menu item in Messages app, where you can also set your status to be online or 
offline, or away.

HTH

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 28, 2015, at 08:00, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Good morning, all,

I've been trying to figure out how to get my FB account connected to Messages.  
I have it set up in Internet Accounts, but the only apps affiliated with it are 
Calendar and Contacts, and I don't see a way to add Messages.  So I went into 
Messages, but FB is not one of the new account options, even under Other 
Account Type.  any help would be much appreciated.
Cheers,
Donna

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Re: Watch Screen Responsiveness with VoiceOver

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I had to turn wrist raise off as Voice Over keeps speaking.
On 28 Jun 2015, at 13:53, Jenine Stanley  wrote:

I occasionally have an issue where Siri won’t activate on wrist raise and I 
have speak with wrist raise off. It works most of the time but you have to wait 
like 2 seconds after you raise your wrist to call on Siri, it’s not immediate. 
Of course this morning when I’m trying it,it won’t work unless I’ve tapped the 
watch face to wake it up so you may be on to something but my Watch needs to be 
paired again to fix some issues. You may try unpinning it and pairing it again. 
that seems to help here.  
Jenine Stanley
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> On Jun 28, 2015, at 3:14 AM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, all, for the feedback. I had heard that the IPX7 water resistant 
> rating meant it could be submerged in water up to a depth of 1m for up to 30 
> mins. The Apple Store staff member who helped me try on the watch said they 
> don’t recommend waring it in the shower, but then I read that Tim Cook wears 
> his in the shower. But then again I suppose Tim Cook doesn’t need to worry 
> about needing to buy a new one if anything happens to his while wearing it in 
> the shower. One other issue, I suppose, with waring it in the shower is if 
> soap gets into it. Maybe it can handle water but I don’t know about soap.
> 
> Anyway, I took it to the Genius Bar today. They did some diagnostic testing 
> and said there seemed to be a software issue. AS the Watch is such a new 
> product, further testing would require them sending it off site, possibly 
> taking up to one week. I don’t really want to be without my watch for a week, 
> so at the Genius’s suggestion I’m just going to try resetting the Watch 
> settings and then the iPhone settings. Before doing that I might just try 
> restarting the Watch regularly as you all are suggesting.
> 
> So it seems others aren’t having any issues with the Watch activating on 
> wrist-raise even with speak on wrist-raise turned off, is that right? Can any 
> others of you confirm that?
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Re: Can someone explain how to add Facebook to Messages

[Donna Goodin]

Thank you, Tim.  The piece I was missing was choosing Jabber.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jun 28, 2015, at 10:11 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Posted from the earlier discussions on this list with a few clarifications:
> 
> Open the Messages app on the Mac if you haven’t done so yet
> 
> Pull down the “Messages” menu and choose “Add Account…”
> 
> From the message account screen, choose “Other messages account…” and click 
> on “Continue”
> 
> Pull down the menu next to “Account Type” and select ‘Jabber’ from the list
> In “Account Name” enter your Facebook account user name as follows:
> 
> yourusern...@chat.facebook.com (the Facebook username is whatever your 
> Facebook profile URL is, for example:  if you're logged into FaceBook on your 
> Mac, go up to the Address field and it should read, 
> "www.facebook.com/your_username’
> therefore, the username would be “your_usern...@chat.facebook.com” and the 
> account name would then be your_usern...@chat.facebook.com)
> Enter your Facebook account password in the password field, this is the same 
> one you use to login to Facebook from the web or the apps
> 
> Ignore all other settings and choose “Create” – this will setup Facebook 
> messaging client and in a moment you’ll see your Facebook Friends list 
> populate as a buddy list, complete with friend names and friend profile 
> pictures
> 
> Message anyone in the list as usual, the conversations are going through 
> Facebook Messenger
> 
> You can access the Facebook Friends buddy list at any time from the “Windows” 
> menu item in Messages app, where you can also set your status to be online or 
> offline, or away.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 28, 2015, at 08:00, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Good morning, all,
> 
> I've been trying to figure out how to get my FB account connected to 
> Messages.  I have it set up in Internet Accounts, but the only apps 
> affiliated with it are Calendar and Contacts, and I don't see a way to add 
> Messages.  So I went into Messages, but FB is not one of the new account 
> options, even under Other Account Type.  any help would be much appreciated.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Problem sending text messages using Apple Watch

['Graham' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,
This afternoon I have tried sending text messages on my new Apple Watch. For 
some reason each time I get an error message to say that the  message   text 
was on able to be sent.
Using the same contact information on my iPhone works every time.
Has anyone any ideas?

Kind regards

Graham

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Looking for an iMac and iPad...

[Cameron Strife]

Hi. If anybody has a recent iMac with decent specs or a newer iPad
mini or air they are interested in selling, please e mail me off list
with details.

thanks,

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Re: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over

[jeff `greene]

Hi, You have to hold down command+option+r right after you press the
power button. Also, I would keep holding it down for a few seconds
after you hear the startup chime. Then, I would wait like two minutes
before trying the command+f5, it seems to take a while before VO is
available.
Hope this helps! Jeff


On 6/27/15, Grant  wrote:
> It sounds as though you are not pressing COMMAND+R quickly enough when the
> Mac starts up. Try pressing the keys sooner, such as immediately when the
> startup chime starts playing. When I need to enter recovery mode, I press
> the key combination so quickly that the chime is still playing while the
> keys are held down.
>
> As well, this is probably overkill, but if you have sighted help around, you
> could enter internet recovery instead by pressing COMMAND+OPTION+R rather
> than COMMAND+R. This starts the computer directly from Apple's servers and
> will allow you to put it back to factory condition, including recreating the
> recovery partition and installing the version of OS X that originally
> shipped with the computer. You could then use the Mac App Store to upgrade
> to the latest version of OS X. If you go this route, which I emphasize is
> probably unnecessary, you will need sighted help at the beginning as
> VoiceOver will not be immediately available.
>
> Grant
>
>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Mauricio Molina 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is the same information I found using Google, but for some reason, it
>> does not work. There is a sign in and password and I use the password to
>> log in at all times. What I am doing is as soon as the MacBook is powered
>> on, I immediately hold down command and the letter R , but I always get to
>> the account log on window. Since command R did not work before the logging
>> in window appears, I hold down the combination after typing the password
>> to log in and this still has not worked. I have not seen anything like the
>> ability to reformat or wipe the system clean to start over. Any ideas?
>>
>> Mauricio
>>
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 9:03 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over
>>
>>
>> Hi.you can do that by holding down the command key together with the
>> letter R Now you are in the recovery mode.press command F5 to start
>> voice-over.here you can do a lot of things. For example there is an option
>> to reinstall the OS and start over.good luck
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Re: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over

[christopher hallsworth]

Command-option-r boots into Internet Recovery which is not useful unless you 
either have sighted assistance to connect to your wifi network or you connect 
via ethernet. Command-r is what you want to boot into the recovery partition 
stored on disk.


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> On 28 Jun 2015, at 20:06, jeff `greene  wrote:
> 
> Hi, You have to hold down command+option+r right after you press the
> power button. Also, I would keep holding it down for a few seconds
> after you hear the startup chime. Then, I would wait like two minutes
> before trying the command+f5, it seems to take a while before VO is
> available.
> Hope this helps! Jeff
> 
> 
> On 6/27/15, Grant  wrote:
>> It sounds as though you are not pressing COMMAND+R quickly enough when the
>> Mac starts up. Try pressing the keys sooner, such as immediately when the
>> startup chime starts playing. When I need to enter recovery mode, I press
>> the key combination so quickly that the chime is still playing while the
>> keys are held down.
>> 
>> As well, this is probably overkill, but if you have sighted help around, you
>> could enter internet recovery instead by pressing COMMAND+OPTION+R rather
>> than COMMAND+R. This starts the computer directly from Apple's servers and
>> will allow you to put it back to factory condition, including recreating the
>> recovery partition and installing the version of OS X that originally
>> shipped with the computer. You could then use the Mac App Store to upgrade
>> to the latest version of OS X. If you go this route, which I emphasize is
>> probably unnecessary, you will need sighted help at the beginning as
>> VoiceOver will not be immediately available.
>> 
>> Grant
>> 
>>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Mauricio Molina 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> This is the same information I found using Google, but for some reason, it
>>> does not work. There is a sign in and password and I use the password to
>>> log in at all times. What I am doing is as soon as the MacBook is powered
>>> on, I immediately hold down command and the letter R , but I always get to
>>> the account log on window. Since command R did not work before the logging
>>> in window appears, I hold down the combination after typing the password
>>> to log in and this still has not worked. I have not seen anything like the
>>> ability to reformat or wipe the system clean to start over. Any ideas?
>>> 
>>> Mauricio
>>> 
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 9:03 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi.you can do that by holding down the command key together with the
>>> letter R Now you are in the recovery mode.press command F5 to start
>>> voice-over.here you can do a lot of things. For example there is an option
>>> to reinstall the OS and start over.good luck
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Safari and Command tab vs VoiceOver

[Bill Holton]

Does anyone else have this problem.  I can Command tab quickly between any
and all apps, go into an app, such as iTunes, then command tab away and to
the next app quickly.until I reach Safari.  Then, even after the page has
completely loaded, I cannot accessibly command tab away from Safari with
speech.  Apparently, the apps are changing on the screen, but it is 20-30
seconds before VO start talking again.
Any help/advice appreciated.
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Re: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over

[Grant]

That’s debatable; with a used Mac, I’d probably want to boot into internet 
recovery mode just to make sure the Mac went back to factory condition. Of 
course, like you say, you can’t do this without some sighted help to get you 
started, so it’s not useful in all situations and I’ll admit is probably 
overkill.

Grant

On Jun 28, 2015, at 12:16 PM, christopher hallsworth  
wrote:

Command-option-r boots into Internet Recovery which is not useful unless you 
either have sighted assistance to connect to your wifi network or you connect 
via ethernet. Command-r is what you want to boot into the recovery partition 
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> On 28 Jun 2015, at 20:06, jeff `greene  wrote:
> 
> Hi, You have to hold down command+option+r right after you press the
> power button. Also, I would keep holding it down for a few seconds
> after you hear the startup chime. Then, I would wait like two minutes
> before trying the command+f5, it seems to take a while before VO is
> available.
> Hope this helps! Jeff
> 
> 
> On 6/27/15, Grant  wrote:
>> It sounds as though you are not pressing COMMAND+R quickly enough when the
>> Mac starts up. Try pressing the keys sooner, such as immediately when the
>> startup chime starts playing. When I need to enter recovery mode, I press
>> the key combination so quickly that the chime is still playing while the
>> keys are held down.
>> 
>> As well, this is probably overkill, but if you have sighted help around, you
>> could enter internet recovery instead by pressing COMMAND+OPTION+R rather
>> than COMMAND+R. This starts the computer directly from Apple's servers and
>> will allow you to put it back to factory condition, including recreating the
>> recovery partition and installing the version of OS X that originally
>> shipped with the computer. You could then use the Mac App Store to upgrade
>> to the latest version of OS X. If you go this route, which I emphasize is
>> probably unnecessary, you will need sighted help at the beginning as
>> VoiceOver will not be immediately available.
>> 
>> Grant
>> 
>>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Mauricio Molina 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> This is the same information I found using Google, but for some reason, it
>>> does not work. There is a sign in and password and I use the password to
>>> log in at all times. What I am doing is as soon as the MacBook is powered
>>> on, I immediately hold down command and the letter R , but I always get to
>>> the account log on window. Since command R did not work before the logging
>>> in window appears, I hold down the combination after typing the password
>>> to log in and this still has not worked. I have not seen anything like the
>>> ability to reformat or wipe the system clean to start over. Any ideas?
>>> 
>>> Mauricio
>>> 
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 9:03 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi.you can do that by holding down the command key together with the
>>> letter R Now you are in the recovery mode.press command F5 to start
>>> voice-over.here you can do a lot of things. For example there is an option
>>> to reinstall the OS and start over.good luck
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Re: Trouble with iTunes

[Dionipher Presas Herrera]

check if you have an upnext song by pressing option command u. if not change 
your view stting by pressing command j, then select songs.
> On 28 Jun 2015, at 3:26 pm, Ben Constantini  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi guys , thanks for all the suggestions . I will try them today and report 
> back later .
> 
> Thanks , Ben  C
>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 8:42 PM, Ben Constantini > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chris , Thanks but I tried  command + the left and right arrows too and  
>> that only took me to the next album.  The volume , mute ,pause  controls all 
>> seem to work okay.   I am sure it is something simple that I am not doing .
>> 
>> Thanks , Ben C.
>>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 8:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>> mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dono why it's stopping after each track.  That's bizarre, however I can 
>>> tell you why your arrow keys aren't working.
>>>  
>>> It's actually command! left and right arrow, not just left and right arrow 
>>> by themselves.  Then, if you wanna rewind or fast forward, that's 
>>> command+option+left and right arrows.  command+option+down arrow is mute, 
>>> then if you want to unute, just raise your volume with command+up arrow 
>>> until the desired level.
>>>  
>>> Chris.
>>>  
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 Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 7:55 PM
 Subject: Trouble with iTunes
 
 Hi guys,  I hope this is a simple question with a simple answer . I 
 haven't used iTunes in a while and when I tried to use it today , the left 
 and right arrows do not  go to the next track . Also , when playing an 
 album it will play a song and than stop without proceeding to the next 
 track .  I hope it is something stupid that I am doing or not doing .  I 
 am having this problem on my mac . My iPhone is working fine.
 
 Thanks , Ben C.
 
 
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RE: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over

[Mauricio Molina]

At this point, and I do not have sighted assistance at this time, I will say 
that I have continued to try using the command+R suggestion to no avail; the 
log in/password screen always comes up. I have tried holding this key 
combination soon after pressing the start button and even before pressing the 
start button without success. I have also used the restart option in the Apple 
menu with this key combination with the same results. The version of the os is 
10.6.8. I have a Windows keyboard connected and for all functions, the Windows 
keyboard has worked as expected. Oh, and I am aware that the "Windows" key acts 
as the "command" when using this keyboard. I will wait for sighted assistance 
to try the plan B suggested earlier. 

Thanks for the suggestions and I will keep all posted of my progress. 

Mauricio

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On Behalf Of Grant
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 12:44 PM
To: MacVisionaries List
Subject: Re: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over

That’s debatable; with a used Mac, I’d probably want to boot into internet 
recovery mode just to make sure the Mac went back to factory condition. Of 
course, like you say, you can’t do this without some sighted help to get you 
started, so it’s not useful in all situations and I’ll admit is probably 
overkill.

Grant

On Jun 28, 2015, at 12:16 PM, christopher hallsworth  
wrote:

Command-option-r boots into Internet Recovery which is not useful unless you 
either have sighted assistance to connect to your wifi network or you connect 
via ethernet. Command-r is what you want to boot into the recovery partition 
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> On 28 Jun 2015, at 20:06, jeff `greene  wrote:
> 
> Hi, You have to hold down command+option+r right after you press the 
> power button. Also, I would keep holding it down for a few seconds 
> after you hear the startup chime. Then, I would wait like two minutes 
> before trying the command+f5, it seems to take a while before VO is 
> available.
> Hope this helps! Jeff
> 
> 
> On 6/27/15, Grant  wrote:
>> It sounds as though you are not pressing COMMAND+R quickly enough 
>> when the Mac starts up. Try pressing the keys sooner, such as 
>> immediately when the startup chime starts playing. When I need to 
>> enter recovery mode, I press the key combination so quickly that the 
>> chime is still playing while the keys are held down.
>> 
>> As well, this is probably overkill, but if you have sighted help 
>> around, you could enter internet recovery instead by pressing 
>> COMMAND+OPTION+R rather than COMMAND+R. This starts the computer 
>> directly from Apple's servers and will allow you to put it back to 
>> factory condition, including recreating the recovery partition and 
>> installing the version of OS X that originally shipped with the 
>> computer. You could then use the Mac App Store to upgrade to the 
>> latest version of OS X. If you go this route, which I emphasize is 
>> probably unnecessary, you will need sighted help at the beginning as 
>> VoiceOver will not be immediately available.
>> 
>> Grant
>> 
>>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Mauricio Molina 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> This is the same information I found using Google, but for some 
>>> reason, it does not work. There is a sign in and password and I use 
>>> the password to log in at all times. What I am doing is as soon as 
>>> the MacBook is powered on, I immediately hold down command and the 
>>> letter R , but I always get to the account log on window. Since 
>>> command R did not work before the logging in window appears, I hold 
>>> down the combination after typing the password to log in and this 
>>> still has not worked. I have not seen anything like the ability to reformat 
>>> or wipe the system clean to start over. Any ideas?
>>> 
>>> Mauricio
>>> 
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders 
>>> Holmberg
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 9:03 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi.you can do that by holding down the command key together with the
>>> letter R Now you are in the recovery mode.press command F5 to start
>>> voice-over.here you can do a lot of things. For example there is an 
>>> option to reinstall the OS and start over.good luck
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Re: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over

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Do you have File Vault enabled? This could prevent access to the recovery 
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> On 28 Jun 2015, at 22:50, Mauricio Molina  wrote:
> 
> At this point, and I do not have sighted assistance at this time, I will say 
> that I have continued to try using the command+R suggestion to no avail; the 
> log in/password screen always comes up. I have tried holding this key 
> combination soon after pressing the start button and even before pressing the 
> start button without success. I have also used the restart option in the 
> Apple menu with this key combination with the same results. The version of 
> the os is 10.6.8. I have a Windows keyboard connected and for all functions, 
> the Windows keyboard has worked as expected. Oh, and I am aware that the 
> "Windows" key acts as the "command" when using this keyboard. I will wait for 
> sighted assistance to try the plan B suggested earlier. 
> 
> Thanks for the suggestions and I will keep all posted of my progress. 
> 
> Mauricio
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant
> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 12:44 PM
> To: MacVisionaries List
> Subject: Re: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over
> 
> That’s debatable; with a used Mac, I’d probably want to boot into internet 
> recovery mode just to make sure the Mac went back to factory condition. Of 
> course, like you say, you can’t do this without some sighted help to get you 
> started, so it’s not useful in all situations and I’ll admit is probably 
> overkill.
> 
> Grant
> 
> On Jun 28, 2015, at 12:16 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>  wrote:
> 
> Command-option-r boots into Internet Recovery which is not useful unless you 
> either have sighted assistance to connect to your wifi network or you connect 
> via ethernet. Command-r is what you want to boot into the recovery partition 
> stored on disk.
> 
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>> On 28 Jun 2015, at 20:06, jeff `greene  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, You have to hold down command+option+r right after you press the 
>> power button. Also, I would keep holding it down for a few seconds 
>> after you hear the startup chime. Then, I would wait like two minutes 
>> before trying the command+f5, it seems to take a while before VO is 
>> available.
>> Hope this helps! Jeff
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/27/15, Grant  wrote:
>>> It sounds as though you are not pressing COMMAND+R quickly enough 
>>> when the Mac starts up. Try pressing the keys sooner, such as 
>>> immediately when the startup chime starts playing. When I need to 
>>> enter recovery mode, I press the key combination so quickly that the 
>>> chime is still playing while the keys are held down.
>>> 
>>> As well, this is probably overkill, but if you have sighted help 
>>> around, you could enter internet recovery instead by pressing 
>>> COMMAND+OPTION+R rather than COMMAND+R. This starts the computer 
>>> directly from Apple's servers and will allow you to put it back to 
>>> factory condition, including recreating the recovery partition and 
>>> installing the version of OS X that originally shipped with the 
>>> computer. You could then use the Mac App Store to upgrade to the 
>>> latest version of OS X. If you go this route, which I emphasize is 
>>> probably unnecessary, you will need sighted help at the beginning as 
>>> VoiceOver will not be immediately available.
>>> 
>>> Grant
>>> 
 On Jun 27, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Mauricio Molina 
 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 This is the same information I found using Google, but for some 
 reason, it does not work. There is a sign in and password and I use 
 the password to log in at all times. What I am doing is as soon as 
 the MacBook is powered on, I immediately hold down command and the 
 letter R , but I always get to the account log on window. Since 
 command R did not work before the logging in window appears, I hold 
 down the combination after typing the password to log in and this 
 still has not worked. I have not seen anything like the ability to 
 reformat or wipe the system clean to start over. Any ideas?
 
 Mauricio
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders 
 Holmberg
 Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 9:03 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over
 
 
 Hi.you can do that by holding down the command key together with the
 letter R Now you are in the recovery mode.press command F5 to start
 voice-o

Viewing second page in Pages

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A party edited a document in IOS 8.3 Pages and sent it to me as a Word 
document. Pages 5.2.2 opened it just fine. However, I seem to only get to read 
page 1. How do I get to Page 2?

Vaquero and the human Angus

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RE: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over

[Mauricio Molina]

Christopher, 

Since I am not sure if you read my original message, please allow me to provide 
some original and some new information: This MacBook Pro (MBP) was given to me 
so that I could learn to use a Mac using VoiceOver. At the time, the MBP had 3 
accounts and I was provided the password for the main account holder. In 
learning to use the MBP, I changed the name of the main account holder, added 
an email account to MacMail, and have been performing some basic yet essential 
tasks. I have been able to learn a lot with this configuration. However, one 
thing I cannot do is access the App Store or iTunes because I do not have the 
original owner's Apple ID password. Sure, I can ask for this information, but I 
have been so appreciative of the gift of the circa 2011 MBP, I do not want to 
inconvenience the gifter; passwords are such a personal commodity and I have 
always stressed that passwords should not be given out lightly. Additionally, I 
am seeking the experience of performing the desired task. So, with all this 
information, is "File Vault" something I need to disable? Again, if I must, I 
will contact the original owner and ask for their Apple ID password. 

Thanks, 

Mauricio

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Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 2:52 PM
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Subject: Re: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over

Do you have File Vault enabled? This could prevent access to the recovery 
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> On 28 Jun 2015, at 22:50, Mauricio Molina  wrote:
> 
> At this point, and I do not have sighted assistance at this time, I will say 
> that I have continued to try using the command+R suggestion to no avail; the 
> log in/password screen always comes up. I have tried holding this key 
> combination soon after pressing the start button and even before pressing the 
> start button without success. I have also used the restart option in the 
> Apple menu with this key combination with the same results. The version of 
> the os is 10.6.8. I have a Windows keyboard connected and for all functions, 
> the Windows keyboard has worked as expected. Oh, and I am aware that the 
> "Windows" key acts as the "command" when using this keyboard. I will wait for 
> sighted assistance to try the plan B suggested earlier. 
> 
> Thanks for the suggestions and I will keep all posted of my progress. 
> 
> Mauricio
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant
> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 12:44 PM
> To: MacVisionaries List
> Subject: Re: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over
> 
> That’s debatable; with a used Mac, I’d probably want to boot into internet 
> recovery mode just to make sure the Mac went back to factory condition. Of 
> course, like you say, you can’t do this without some sighted help to get you 
> started, so it’s not useful in all situations and I’ll admit is probably 
> overkill.
> 
> Grant
> 
> On Jun 28, 2015, at 12:16 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>  wrote:
> 
> Command-option-r boots into Internet Recovery which is not useful unless you 
> either have sighted assistance to connect to your wifi network or you connect 
> via ethernet. Command-r is what you want to boot into the recovery partition 
> stored on disk.
> 
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>> On 28 Jun 2015, at 20:06, jeff `greene  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, You have to hold down command+option+r right after you press the 
>> power button. Also, I would keep holding it down for a few seconds 
>> after you hear the startup chime. Then, I would wait like two minutes 
>> before trying the command+f5, it seems to take a while before VO is 
>> available.
>> Hope this helps! Jeff
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/27/15, Grant  wrote:
>>> It sounds as though you are not pressing COMMAND+R quickly enough 
>>> when the Mac starts up. Try pressing the keys sooner, such as 
>>> immediately when the startup chime starts playing. When I need to 
>>> enter recovery mode, I press the key combination so quickly that the 
>>> chime is still playing while the keys are held down.
>>> 
>>> As well, this is probably overkill, but if you have sighted help 
>>> around, you could enter internet recovery instead by pressing 
>>> COMMAND+OPTION+R rather than COMMAND+R. This starts the computer 
>>> directly from Apple's servers and will allow you to put it back to 
>>> factory condition, including recreating the recovery partition and 
>>> installing the version of OS X that originally shipped with the 
>>> computer. You could

Re: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over

[Grant]

The recovery feature was only added in Mac OS X 10.7 Lion. This explains why it 
is not working. To wipe your computer and start from scratch, you’ll need to 
install Mac OS X Snow Leopard from DVD. The previous owner should have provided 
this installation media along with the computer; if not you should inquire 
whether the previous owner has such media. I believe you can order replacement 
media from Apple if needed, for a fee. Once you do this, if your Mac is 
compatible, you can grab a later version of OS X from the Mac App Store and 
update it.

As a last resort, if your Mac supports a later OS, you could grab it from the 
Mac App Store, create bootable media with that installer you just downloaded, 
then boot up from that external media and erase your hard drive.

With either of these options, you might need assistance or additional 
information if you’re a Mac beginner. Be sure to reply if you need more details 
on any of the above, as this has been a pretty short and to-the-point summary.

Grant

On Jun 28, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Mauricio Molina  wrote:

At this point, and I do not have sighted assistance at this time, I will say 
that I have continued to try using the command+R suggestion to no avail; the 
log in/password screen always comes up. I have tried holding this key 
combination soon after pressing the start button and even before pressing the 
start button without success. I have also used the restart option in the Apple 
menu with this key combination with the same results. The version of the os is 
10.6.8. I have a Windows keyboard connected and for all functions, the Windows 
keyboard has worked as expected. Oh, and I am aware that the "Windows" key acts 
as the "command" when using this keyboard. I will wait for sighted assistance 
to try the plan B suggested earlier. 

Thanks for the suggestions and I will keep all posted of my progress. 

Mauricio

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Grant
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 12:44 PM
To: MacVisionaries List
Subject: Re: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over

That’s debatable; with a used Mac, I’d probably want to boot into internet 
recovery mode just to make sure the Mac went back to factory condition. Of 
course, like you say, you can’t do this without some sighted help to get you 
started, so it’s not useful in all situations and I’ll admit is probably 
overkill.

Grant

On Jun 28, 2015, at 12:16 PM, christopher hallsworth  
wrote:

Command-option-r boots into Internet Recovery which is not useful unless you 
either have sighted assistance to connect to your wifi network or you connect 
via ethernet. Command-r is what you want to boot into the recovery partition 
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> On 28 Jun 2015, at 20:06, jeff `greene  wrote:
> 
> Hi, You have to hold down command+option+r right after you press the 
> power button. Also, I would keep holding it down for a few seconds 
> after you hear the startup chime. Then, I would wait like two minutes 
> before trying the command+f5, it seems to take a while before VO is 
> available.
> Hope this helps! Jeff
> 
> 
> On 6/27/15, Grant  wrote:
>> It sounds as though you are not pressing COMMAND+R quickly enough 
>> when the Mac starts up. Try pressing the keys sooner, such as 
>> immediately when the startup chime starts playing. When I need to 
>> enter recovery mode, I press the key combination so quickly that the 
>> chime is still playing while the keys are held down.
>> 
>> As well, this is probably overkill, but if you have sighted help 
>> around, you could enter internet recovery instead by pressing 
>> COMMAND+OPTION+R rather than COMMAND+R. This starts the computer 
>> directly from Apple's servers and will allow you to put it back to 
>> factory condition, including recreating the recovery partition and 
>> installing the version of OS X that originally shipped with the 
>> computer. You could then use the Mac App Store to upgrade to the 
>> latest version of OS X. If you go this route, which I emphasize is 
>> probably unnecessary, you will need sighted help at the beginning as 
>> VoiceOver will not be immediately available.
>> 
>> Grant
>> 
>>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Mauricio Molina 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> This is the same information I found using Google, but for some 
>>> reason, it does not work. There is a sign in and password and I use 
>>> the password to log in at all times. What I am doing is as soon as 
>>> the MacBook is powered on, I immediately hold down command and the 
>>> letter R , but I always get to the account log on window. Since 
>>> command R did not work before the logging in window appears, I hold 
>>> down the combination after typing the password to log in and this 
>>> still has not worked. I have no

Re: Looking for an iMac and iPad...

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Check the refurrbished mac tore. They have good deals.
> On Jun 28, 2015, at 1:12 PM, Cameron Strife  wrote:
> 
> Hi. If anybody has a recent iMac with decent specs or a newer iPad
> mini or air they are interested in selling, please e mail me off list
> with details.
> 
> thanks,
> 
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headphones

[wayne coles]

hello,list my headphone socket on my mbp has died, and as I have a good set
of wireless headphones I need a solution to my problem, here is the problem
my headphones use a 3.5 plug but as my headphone socket is not working is
there a docking station or a adaptor or some thing else . your advice would
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Re: Glances in Apple Watch

[Nicholas Parsons]

I’ve had no problem with the two finger swipe gesture in the glances or 
anywhere else. To swipe left or right, I too place my fingers vertically, one 
towards the bottom of the screen and one towards the top, and then swipe either 
left or right as desired.

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Re: headphones

[Alex Hall]

The easiest thing is probably a USB sound card. They can get quite small, and 
should work well enough. Are you certain the jack has died, though, and not 
just been muted? Remember that audio levels for speakers will be different from 
headphones, so it's possible for the internal speakers to work but for the 
headphones to not be making noise at all.
> On Jun 28, 2015, at 7:21 PM, wayne coles  wrote:
> 
> hello,list my headphone socket on my mbp has died, and as I have a good set 
> of wireless headphones I need a solution to my problem, here is the problem 
> my headphones use a 3.5 plug but as my headphone socket is not working is 
> there a docking station or a adaptor or some thing else . your advice would 
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RE: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over

[Mauricio Molina]

Hi Grant, 

Well, I guess mystery solved. Being a Mac newbie, I would have never come up 
with this on my own. Sorry if I sent those assisting me on a wild goose chase. 
Thanks for all the suggestions and at the very least I've learned something 
through this process. 

Mauricio

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Grant
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 3:36 PM
To: MacVisionaries List
Subject: Re: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over

The recovery feature was only added in Mac OS X 10.7 Lion. This explains why it 
is not working. To wipe your computer and start from scratch, you’ll need to 
install Mac OS X Snow Leopard from DVD. The previous owner should have provided 
this installation media along with the computer; if not you should inquire 
whether the previous owner has such media. I believe you can order replacement 
media from Apple if needed, for a fee. Once you do this, if your Mac is 
compatible, you can grab a later version of OS X from the Mac App Store and 
update it.

As a last resort, if your Mac supports a later OS, you could grab it from the 
Mac App Store, create bootable media with that installer you just downloaded, 
then boot up from that external media and erase your hard drive.

With either of these options, you might need assistance or additional 
information if you’re a Mac beginner. Be sure to reply if you need more details 
on any of the above, as this has been a pretty short and to-the-point summary.

Grant

On Jun 28, 2015, at 2:50 PM, Mauricio Molina  wrote:

At this point, and I do not have sighted assistance at this time, I will say 
that I have continued to try using the command+R suggestion to no avail; the 
log in/password screen always comes up. I have tried holding this key 
combination soon after pressing the start button and even before pressing the 
start button without success. I have also used the restart option in the Apple 
menu with this key combination with the same results. The version of the os is 
10.6.8. I have a Windows keyboard connected and for all functions, the Windows 
keyboard has worked as expected. Oh, and I am aware that the "Windows" key acts 
as the "command" when using this keyboard. I will wait for sighted assistance 
to try the plan B suggested earlier. 

Thanks for the suggestions and I will keep all posted of my progress. 

Mauricio

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On Behalf Of Grant
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 12:44 PM
To: MacVisionaries List
Subject: Re: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over

That’s debatable; with a used Mac, I’d probably want to boot into internet 
recovery mode just to make sure the Mac went back to factory condition. Of 
course, like you say, you can’t do this without some sighted help to get you 
started, so it’s not useful in all situations and I’ll admit is probably 
overkill.

Grant

On Jun 28, 2015, at 12:16 PM, christopher hallsworth  
wrote:

Command-option-r boots into Internet Recovery which is not useful unless you 
either have sighted assistance to connect to your wifi network or you connect 
via ethernet. Command-r is what you want to boot into the recovery partition 
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> On 28 Jun 2015, at 20:06, jeff `greene  wrote:
> 
> Hi, You have to hold down command+option+r right after you press the 
> power button. Also, I would keep holding it down for a few seconds 
> after you hear the startup chime. Then, I would wait like two minutes 
> before trying the command+f5, it seems to take a while before VO is 
> available.
> Hope this helps! Jeff
> 
> 
> On 6/27/15, Grant  wrote:
>> It sounds as though you are not pressing COMMAND+R quickly enough 
>> when the Mac starts up. Try pressing the keys sooner, such as 
>> immediately when the startup chime starts playing. When I need to 
>> enter recovery mode, I press the key combination so quickly that the 
>> chime is still playing while the keys are held down.
>> 
>> As well, this is probably overkill, but if you have sighted help 
>> around, you could enter internet recovery instead by pressing
>> COMMAND+OPTION+R rather than COMMAND+R. This starts the computer
>> directly from Apple's servers and will allow you to put it back to 
>> factory condition, including recreating the recovery partition and 
>> installing the version of OS X that originally shipped with the 
>> computer. You could then use the Mac App Store to upgrade to the 
>> latest version of OS X. If you go this route, which I emphasize is 
>> probably unnecessary, you will need sighted help at the beginning as 
>> VoiceOver will not be immediately available.
>> 
>> Grant
>> 
>>> On Jun 27, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Mauricio Molina 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> This is the sa

Re: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over

[Marshall Scott]

Is there any possibility that the Mac hard drive was encrypted?
Marshall

> On Jun 28, 2015, at 3:50 PM, Mauricio Molina  
> wrote:
> 
> At this point, and I do not have sighted assistance at this time, I will say 
> that I have continued to try using the command+R suggestion to no avail; the 
> log in/password screen always comes up. I have tried holding this key 
> combination soon after pressing the start button and even before pressing the 
> start button without success. I have also used the restart option in the 
> Apple menu with this key combination with the same results. The version of 
> the os is 10.6.8. I have a Windows keyboard connected and for all functions, 
> the Windows keyboard has worked as expected. Oh, and I am aware that the 
> "Windows" key acts as the "command" when using this keyboard. I will wait for 
> sighted assistance to try the plan B suggested earlier. 
> 
> Thanks for the suggestions and I will keep all posted of my progress. 
> 
> Mauricio
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant
> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 12:44 PM
> To: MacVisionaries List
> Subject: Re: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over
> 
> That’s debatable; with a used Mac, I’d probably want to boot into internet 
> recovery mode just to make sure the Mac went back to factory condition. Of 
> course, like you say, you can’t do this without some sighted help to get you 
> started, so it’s not useful in all situations and I’ll admit is probably 
> overkill.
> 
> Grant
> 
> On Jun 28, 2015, at 12:16 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>  wrote:
> 
> Command-option-r boots into Internet Recovery which is not useful unless you 
> either have sighted assistance to connect to your wifi network or you connect 
> via ethernet. Command-r is what you want to boot into the recovery partition 
> stored on disk.
> 
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>> On 28 Jun 2015, at 20:06, jeff `greene  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, You have to hold down command+option+r right after you press the 
>> power button. Also, I would keep holding it down for a few seconds 
>> after you hear the startup chime. Then, I would wait like two minutes 
>> before trying the command+f5, it seems to take a while before VO is 
>> available.
>> Hope this helps! Jeff
>> 
>> 
>> On 6/27/15, Grant  wrote:
>>> It sounds as though you are not pressing COMMAND+R quickly enough 
>>> when the Mac starts up. Try pressing the keys sooner, such as 
>>> immediately when the startup chime starts playing. When I need to 
>>> enter recovery mode, I press the key combination so quickly that the 
>>> chime is still playing while the keys are held down.
>>> 
>>> As well, this is probably overkill, but if you have sighted help 
>>> around, you could enter internet recovery instead by pressing 
>>> COMMAND+OPTION+R rather than COMMAND+R. This starts the computer 
>>> directly from Apple's servers and will allow you to put it back to 
>>> factory condition, including recreating the recovery partition and 
>>> installing the version of OS X that originally shipped with the 
>>> computer. You could then use the Mac App Store to upgrade to the 
>>> latest version of OS X. If you go this route, which I emphasize is 
>>> probably unnecessary, you will need sighted help at the beginning as 
>>> VoiceOver will not be immediately available.
>>> 
>>> Grant
>>> 
 On Jun 27, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Mauricio Molina 
 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 This is the same information I found using Google, but for some 
 reason, it does not work. There is a sign in and password and I use 
 the password to log in at all times. What I am doing is as soon as 
 the MacBook is powered on, I immediately hold down command and the 
 letter R , but I always get to the account log on window. Since 
 command R did not work before the logging in window appears, I hold 
 down the combination after typing the password to log in and this 
 still has not worked. I have not seen anything like the ability to 
 reformat or wipe the system clean to start over. Any ideas?
 
 Mauricio
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders 
 Holmberg
 Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 9:03 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Wiping A Mac Clean and Starting Over
 
 
 Hi.you can do that by holding down the command key together with the
 letter R Now you are in the recovery mode.press command F5 to start
 voice-over.here you can do a lot of things. For example there is an 
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Re: vmware fusion question

[Chris Moore]

Another tip I’ve learned is to turn VO off from within windows once you’re sure 
it is running.  To do this,
press cmd + ctl followed by cmd + f5.

HTH
Chris
> On Jun 27, 2015, at 11:23 AM, Matthew Dyer  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If you run a vm.  Make sure you are in full screen mode.  Also, If you are in 
> the vm lybrarry, you cAN do a bo shift M to bring up the menu for that vm you 
> are on and select startup and it will boot up for you and you should be in 
> full screen mode.
> 
> Matrthew.
> 
> 
> 
> On 06/27/2015 07:27 AM, joseph big wrote:
>> hello list members
>> 
>> i installed the mentioned above and tried to run windows but when i quit 
>> Voiceover to interact with windows, i still hear dings indicates that i am 
>> still in the mac screen.  can anyone help solve this problem please?
>> 
>> thank you in advance
>> 
>> best
>>  
>> 
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RE: Can someone explain how to add Facebook to Messages

[Greg Kerbage]

I'm having problems with my buddy list coming up on my mac. I've done this step 
by step and still having issues.


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Sent: Monday, 29 June 2015 1:11 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can someone explain how to add Facebook to Messages

Hi,

Posted from the earlier discussions on this list with a few clarifications:

Open the Messages app on the Mac if you haven’t done so yet

Pull down the “Messages” menu and choose “Add Account…”

>From the message account screen, choose “Other messages account…” and click on 
>“Continue”

Pull down the menu next to “Account Type” and select ‘Jabber’ from the list In 
“Account Name” enter your Facebook account user name as follows:

yourusern...@chat.facebook.com (the Facebook username is whatever your Facebook 
profile URL is, for example:  if you're logged into FaceBook on your Mac, go up 
to the Address field and it should read, "www.facebook.com/your_username’
therefore, the username would be “your_usern...@chat.facebook.com” and the 
account name would then be your_usern...@chat.facebook.com) Enter your Facebook 
account password in the password field, this is the same one you use to login 
to Facebook from the web or the apps

Ignore all other settings and choose “Create” – this will setup Facebook 
messaging client and in a moment you’ll see your Facebook Friends list populate 
as a buddy list, complete with friend names and friend profile pictures

Message anyone in the list as usual, the conversations are going through 
Facebook Messenger

You can access the Facebook Friends buddy list at any time from the “Windows” 
menu item in Messages app, where you can also set your status to be online or 
offline, or away.

HTH

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 28, 2015, at 08:00, Donna Goodin  wrote:

Good morning, all,

I've been trying to figure out how to get my FB account connected to Messages.  
I have it set up in Internet Accounts, but the only apps affiliated with it are 
Calendar and Contacts, and I don't see a way to add Messages.  So I went into 
Messages, but FB is not one of the new account options, even under Other 
Account Type.  any help would be much appreciated.
Cheers,
Donna

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Clamp no longer to be free

[Agent086b]

Hi all,
notice after updating Clamxap today there is now a charge for using it after 30 
days.
I will pay as I think the App is worth paying fore.
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Re: Can someone explain how to add Facebook to Messages

[Donna Goodin]

It worked like a charm for me.  One thing to remember is that the username you 
need isn't the one you use to sign into Facebook, it's the one they assign you. 
 To see it, open FB, click on your Profile, then look at the URL.  The username 
you need will be in the URL as Tim describes.  Good luck!
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jun 28, 2015, at 8:55 PM, Greg Kerbage  wrote:
> 
> I'm having problems with my buddy list coming up on my mac. I've done this 
> step by step and still having issues.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Monday, 29 June 2015 1:11 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can someone explain how to add Facebook to Messages
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Posted from the earlier discussions on this list with a few clarifications:
> 
> Open the Messages app on the Mac if you haven’t done so yet
> 
> Pull down the “Messages” menu and choose “Add Account…”
> 
> From the message account screen, choose “Other messages account…” and click 
> on “Continue”
> 
> Pull down the menu next to “Account Type” and select ‘Jabber’ from the list 
> In “Account Name” enter your Facebook account user name as follows:
> 
> yourusern...@chat.facebook.com (the Facebook username is whatever your 
> Facebook profile URL is, for example:  if you're logged into FaceBook on your 
> Mac, go up to the Address field and it should read, 
> "www.facebook.com/your_username’
> therefore, the username would be “your_usern...@chat.facebook.com” and the 
> account name would then be your_usern...@chat.facebook.com) Enter your 
> Facebook account password in the password field, this is the same one you use 
> to login to Facebook from the web or the apps
> 
> Ignore all other settings and choose “Create” – this will setup Facebook 
> messaging client and in a moment you’ll see your Facebook Friends list 
> populate as a buddy list, complete with friend names and friend profile 
> pictures
> 
> Message anyone in the list as usual, the conversations are going through 
> Facebook Messenger
> 
> You can access the Facebook Friends buddy list at any time from the “Windows” 
> menu item in Messages app, where you can also set your status to be online or 
> offline, or away.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 28, 2015, at 08:00, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Good morning, all,
> 
> I've been trying to figure out how to get my FB account connected to 
> Messages.  I have it set up in Internet Accounts, but the only apps 
> affiliated with it are Calendar and Contacts, and I don't see a way to add 
> Messages.  So I went into Messages, but FB is not one of the new account 
> options, even under Other Account Type.  any help would be much appreciated.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Viewing second page in Pages

[Jamie Pauls]

Make certain you have interacted with the document area. Sometimes it seems as 
though you have but you haven't actually. Took me a while to figure that one 
out.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 28, 2015, at 5:14 PM, Angus MacKinnon  wrote:
> 
> A party edited a document in IOS 8.3 Pages and sent it to me as a Word 
> document. Pages 5.2.2 opened it just fine. However, I seem to only get to 
> read page 1. How do I get to Page 2?
> 
> Vaquero and the human Angus
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Re: Clamp no longer to be free

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi, 

May I ask what the cost will be? I haven’t yet updated the app and I’m away 
from my secure network to update until next week. 

Thanks.

Eileen 
> On Jun 28, 2015, at 6:58 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> notice after updating Clamxap today there is now a charge for using it after 
> 30 days.
> I will pay as I think the App is worth paying fore.
> Max.
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RE: Can someone explain how to add Facebook to Messages

[Greg Kerbage]

Thanks Donna. I'll try that out again when I get home from work this afternoon. 
Fingers crossed it works this time.
Greg

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Monday, 29 June 2015 12:41 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can someone explain how to add Facebook to Messages

It worked like a charm for me.  One thing to remember is that the username you 
need isn't the one you use to sign into Facebook, it's the one they assign you. 
 To see it, open FB, click on your Profile, then look at the URL.  The username 
you need will be in the URL as Tim describes.  Good luck!
Cheers,
Donna
> On Jun 28, 2015, at 8:55 PM, Greg Kerbage  wrote:
> 
> I'm having problems with my buddy list coming up on my mac. I've done this 
> step by step and still having issues.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
> Sent: Monday, 29 June 2015 1:11 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can someone explain how to add Facebook to Messages
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Posted from the earlier discussions on this list with a few clarifications:
> 
> Open the Messages app on the Mac if you haven’t done so yet
> 
> Pull down the “Messages” menu and choose “Add Account…”
> 
> From the message account screen, choose “Other messages account…” and click 
> on “Continue”
> 
> Pull down the menu next to “Account Type” and select ‘Jabber’ from the list 
> In “Account Name” enter your Facebook account user name as follows:
> 
> yourusern...@chat.facebook.com (the Facebook username is whatever your 
> Facebook profile URL is, for example:  if you're logged into FaceBook on your 
> Mac, go up to the Address field and it should read, 
> "www.facebook.com/your_username’
> therefore, the username would be “your_usern...@chat.facebook.com” and the 
> account name would then be your_usern...@chat.facebook.com) Enter your 
> Facebook account password in the password field, this is the same one you use 
> to login to Facebook from the web or the apps
> 
> Ignore all other settings and choose “Create” – this will setup Facebook 
> messaging client and in a moment you’ll see your Facebook Friends list 
> populate as a buddy list, complete with friend names and friend profile 
> pictures
> 
> Message anyone in the list as usual, the conversations are going through 
> Facebook Messenger
> 
> You can access the Facebook Friends buddy list at any time from the “Windows” 
> menu item in Messages app, where you can also set your status to be online or 
> offline, or away.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 28, 2015, at 08:00, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
> Good morning, all,
> 
> I've been trying to figure out how to get my FB account connected to 
> Messages.  I have it set up in Internet Accounts, but the only apps 
> affiliated with it are Calendar and Contacts, and I don't see a way to add 
> Messages.  So I went into Messages, but FB is not one of the new account 
> options, even under Other Account Type.  any help would be much appreciated.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Clamp no longer to be free

[Agent086b]

In $aud it is about $40. and some cents. there is a launch 25% discount. Don’t 
know how long this will last.
Max.
> On 29 Jun 2015, at 1:11 pm, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> May I ask what the cost will be? I haven’t yet updated the app and I’m away 
> from my secure network to update until next week. 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Eileen 
>> On Jun 28, 2015, at 6:58 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> notice after updating Clamxap today there is now a charge for using it after 
>> 30 days.
>> I will pay as I think the App is worth paying fore.
>> Max.
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Re: Clamp no longer to be free

[Ray Foret Jr]

The discount is good through the next 30 days.  The cost per single user 
license is actually $29.99 but, for the next 30 days, one can get it for 
$22.99.  I will pay also.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

> On Jun 28, 2015, at 10:31 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
> 
> In $aud it is about $40. and some cents. there is a launch 25% discount. 
> Don’t know how long this will last.
> Max.
>> On 29 Jun 2015, at 1:11 pm, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, 
>> 
>> May I ask what the cost will be? I haven’t yet updated the app and I’m away 
>> from my secure network to update until next week. 
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Eileen 
>>> On Jun 28, 2015, at 6:58 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> notice after updating Clamxap today there is now a charge for using it 
>>> after 30 days.
>>> I will pay as I think the App is worth paying fore.
>>> Max.
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Setting up Apple Watch.

[Sadam Ahmed]

Hi all, 

Ordered my Apple Watch 42 mm stainless steel yesterday. 

Wondering how to turn on the accessibility features once I receive the device? 

Is it best to triple click the digital crown will take a picture of the watch 
with the camera? 

Thanks in anticipation. 

With regards, 

Sadam Ahmed 

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Re: Setting up Apple Watch.

[Daniela Rubio]

Hi!
What I and many others have done is to turn on the watch holding the “friends” 
button (the long one)about 6 seconds, ; and after that, triple tap the digital 
crown to get VO working.
Then, go to your Watch app in iphone, and when you start to link a watch and it 
asks you to put the watch to the camera, go and press a button that says 
something about pairing the watch manually.
When you do so, you need to do the same in the watch and in the watch screen, a 
6 digit code will appear. That code is to be entered in the iphone app and 
that’s it, the watch will be linked.
After that, your iPhone will start asking you all it needs to set up your 
watch, and also VoiceOver will keep on speaking in your watch.
Hope it helps. It is easy once you have it in front, no big deal.
Take care!

Daniela Rubio T
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> El 29/6/2015, a las 6:07, Sadam Ahmed  escribió:
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> Ordered my Apple Watch 42 mm stainless steel yesterday. 
> 
> Wondering how to turn on the accessibility features once I receive the 
> device? 
> 
> Is it best to triple click the digital crown will take a picture of the watch 
> with the camera? 
> 
> Thanks in anticipation. 
> 
> With regards, 
> 
> Sadam Ahmed 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
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