Re: Braille translation settings on iOS devices?

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Chenelle,

You just have to switch to the keyboard for another language for the Braille to 
follow.

Cheers,

Anne


> On 7 Jan 2015, at 21:42, Chenelle Hancock  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> This is Chenelle, I wanted to know when you're using a refreshable braille 
> display on I was device such as: iPhone, iPod touch, iPad mini or iPad?
> Can you download bro translation programs for other languages suchS French, 
> Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, Arabic or Russian? Reason for my asking for this 
> question is because, I am learning Russian and I want to learn Russian 
> braille so I can read or write Russian. There are no resources in the US for 
> which I can access the Russian Cyrillic alphabet. I do not own and A Windows 
> computer. I only have a Mac. Mike took Sperry program with my Romeo embosser 
> will not work with my Mac. Furthermore, the only way I would be able to 
> access materials and Russian Brio is to write to the library for the blind in 
> Moscow Russia. However, I don't know enough Russian in order to write them in 
> their own language. Is there anyone out there thatlives outside of the US 
> that could help me with this problem?
> Thank you so much for your time I most greatly appreciate it.
> Sincerely, Chenelle
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 7, 2015, at 3:31 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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>>  <>iTunes 12 and downloads in iTunes match.  
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>> Gabriele Battaglia mailto:iz4...@libero.it>>: Jan 07 
>> 09:08PM +0100 
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> I’m a subscriber of an iTunes match account. Before I was able to replace my 
>> old mp3 file with a copy of them downloaded from the could, which is at 256 
>> KBPS.
>>  
>> Now, on the iTunes 12 last release, the download option is no longer 
>> available within the context menu.
>> How Can I do?
>>  
>> Any suggestion will be very appreciated.
>> Gabriel.
>> —
>> Namasté!
>> Sent from my iMac27. (Libero)
>> Tim Kilburn mailto:kilbu...@me.com>>: Jan 07 01:17PM -0700 
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> You must first delete the copy of the mp3 on your local machine. Then, as 
>> long as you didn’t tell iTunes to remove it from the Cloud, it will be 
>> available for download the same as in previous versions of iTunes. Also, you 
>> must have the “Show iTunes in the Cloud Purchases” box checked in the iTunes 
>> Preferences under the Store pane.
>>  
>> Best.
>>  
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>  
>> Gabriele Battaglia > >: Jan 07 09:26PM +0100 
>> 
>> Thanks Tim.
>> Precious as usual.
>> Gabriel.
>> Back to top  <>messages app revisited  
>> 
>>   
>> Faisal ali mailto:faisal.a...@icloud.com>>: Jan 07 
>> 12:25PM -0800 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I’ve got Facebook chat set up on my messages app under jabber. Is it 
>> possible to set it up by forgoing jabber? the set up process was pretty 
>> complicated as I recall and not exactly the most straight forward thing on 
>> the mac. also, I understand that Adium can handle window live messenger but 
>> I’m wondering if this could also be set up in messages? And finally, is it 
>> possible to have notifications set up when new contacts go online?
>> I want to use this app more regularly and cut out other apps like Adium.
>> Thanks
>> Back to top  <>Audio Book Builder transferring books 
>>  
>> 
>>   
>> Sarai Bucciarelli > >: Jan 07 09:09AM -0600 
>> 
>> Hi:
>> They didn’t appear in the music bookshlef, even when I tried to import them 
>> t o music by going to file add to library.
>> Sarai Bucciarelli > >: Jan 07 10:26AM -0600 
>> 
>> Hello:
>

Re: Safari

[David Griffith]

 The back command in Safari is command left bracket.
The forward command is command right bracket.

I personally put a tactile dot on the left bracket key to help me locate this 
as I use it a lot for this and things like web spot navigation.

David Griffith
> On 8 Jan 2015, at 01:19, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> is there a keystroke for going back to a previous page or location? say, if I 
> followed the wrong link or didn’t find what I was looking for and want to go 
> back where I started how do I go back?
> 
> Thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: the graphicsless paradigm

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
CLi based environment can be used if you’r willing to type a lot.
If you’r lazy then go for the gui.
I use both as they compliment each other.
/Ae  
> 7 jan 2015 kl. 00:06 skrev DD :
> 
> On Tue, 6 Jan 2015, Sean Murphy wrote:
> 
> 
> "The CLI on the Mac does provide text base applications if you like to learn. 
> people like things to be easy, thus why we have GUI now." Me:
> 
> I have used both and the cli is far more "easy" by any measure one might 
> choose.
> 
> Screen reader access is far more superior then any gui can possibly provide.
> 
> Most tasks can be done in a text environment with far less trouble in my 
> opinion.
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Re: the graphicsless paradigm

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Is it cobra screenreader you mean?
That one excists and is in my opinion the absolute best screenreader from a 
braille  users perspective.
/A
> 7 jan 2015 kl. 02:13 skrev Sean Murphy :
> 
> If people want to do an open source solution of what have been outlined here, 
> go for it. I would be very interested to see if anyone would take it up. A 
> lot of work. There was a screen reader on the windows which used a tree view 
> like structure to navigate the GUI. It was a German product from memory. 
> Don’t know if it still exists and it was removing the visual aspects away 
> from the vision impaired person. A very interesting concept.
> 
> The Orca people haven’t gone in this direction either. This would be one 
> environment the described concept could be tested in to see if it could be 
> achieved.
> 
> I don’t have the programming skills to help here.
> 
> 
> Sean 
> 
> 
> On 7 Jan 2015, at 12:44 am, Yuma Antoine Decaux  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Shawn,
>> 
>> Thanks for your input. 
>> 
>> Sometimes it's good to see where this corporate behaviour is going. Are you 
>> hitting the spot completely? Am I right? Who cares? Essentially there's an 
>> interest, and there is creating the environment to facilitate the idea.
>> 
>> 
>> Yuma Antoine Decaux
>> "Light has no value without darkness"
>> Mob: +612102277190
>> Skype: Shainobi1
>> twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6/01/2015, at 8:10 pm, Sean Murphy >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have to go against the grain. If you think Apple or any other vendor is 
>>> going to spend time on building a non-graphical environment as outlined on 
>>> this thread. It will not occur due to no market.  We are .5% of the market 
>>> thus there is no business requirement for them and they will not get their 
>>> ROI.
>>> 
>>> The CLI on the Mac does provide text base applications if you like to 
>>> learn. people like things to be easy, thus why we have GUI now.
>>> 
>>> Sean 
>>> On 3 Jan 2015, at 5:19 am, Yuma Antoine Decaux >> > wrote:
>>> 
 
 Where and when is the nFB? I heard a few conflicting ideas about the 
 organisation. But I would take the momentum to engage the voice.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Yuma Antoine Decaux
 "Light has no value without darkness"
 Mob: +612102277190
 Skype: Shainobi1
 twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 
 
 
 
 
> On 2/01/2015, at 12:59 pm, Joanne Chua  > wrote:
> 
> What about if we start asking Apple to make some products that is
> specificly for voiceover, and don't worry about GPU at all hey? Won't
> it be great? Maybe, someone might want to bring this up on this year
> NFB convention?
> 
> On 02/01/2015, Yuma Antoine Decaux  > wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> What I'm trying to induce here is the sense that no matter the graphic
>> outline, everything starts graphicsless and elements are pulled out of 
>> the
>> lower layers, such as kernel, login daemons etc. The graphics layer 
>> itself
>> cannot be omitted since it is also the core of a lot of coco frameworks
>> which voice over relies on.
>> 
>> However, when I say graphcsless, I mean to place to a minimum all of the
>> animations and flash and graphics that appear. I would easily visualise 
>> a UI
>> which borders, buttons and everything else are just placeholders with 
>> plain
>> black and borders that don't load images. No background image, no 
>> transition
>> animations, no stupid bouncing apps that go "hey I'm here" etc etc. This 
>> can
>> free up ressources and reserve them for voice over itself.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> 
>> Yuma Antoine Decaux
>> "Light has no value without darkness"
>> Mob: +612102277190
>> Skype: Shainobi1
>> twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2/01/2015, at 10:03 am, Jason White >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> BobH. mailto:long.c...@virgin.net>> wrote:
 I think a lot of us have said for a good while, that modern 'puters are
 99%
 eye candy or effects;  and maybe as much as 1% real work, though doubt
 it.
 
 DOS worked so well, cos it did none of that.  Boring to the sighted, 
 but
 
 even they were more focussed on getting real info in or out and not 
 just
 
 there to play with it.
 
 So, yes,  a cutToTheQwik system  that took us back to doing the stuff
 we're
 doing, without all the other overhead, would have some use; can think 
 of
 
 professional areas where it wo

Re: Transferring audio content questions

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
No it costs but is worth the money.
/A
> 7 jan 2015 kl. 04:08 skrev Sarai Bucciarelli :
> 
> Is it free?
>> On Jan 6, 2015, at 7:06 PM, Sean Murphy  wrote:
>> 
>> Get audiobook builder it will do it for you.
>> On 7 Jan 2015, at 11:22 am, Sarai Bucciarelli  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello:
>>> I purchased a group of audio downloads from a web site. We have 15 disks 
>>> that are zipped up, disk 1, disk 2, etc. When you unzip each disk, you have 
>>> 41 tracks in each folder. ie. audio disk 1, and track 1, track, 2, etc. 
>>> There are no tags, just folders labeled disk 1, disk 2, and under track 1, 
>>> track 2, etc. I want to somehow transfer these audio disks to my ipod nano 
>>> and iphone. I need the tracks to play in order since they re Spanish 
>>> lessons, and each disk has to have the tracks play in order. How can I 
>>> accomplish this?
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needing an ssh client

[Scott Berry]

Does anyone have any ideas as to what a good ssh client with a GUI is for the 
Mac?


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Re: iTunes Match: do you keep matched tracks after your Match ends?

[Alex Hall]

Okay, thanks, that makes sense and is about what I figured. I'm still not sure 
if Match is worth the price for me, especially when I could spend less and just 
expand my iCloud storage, then dump my music on that instead.
> On Jan 8, 2015, at 12:18 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Matched are considered different than Purchased to iTunes, so those Matched 
> items you’ve downloaded to the local machine will remain yours to use and 
> only Purchased media will be available from the Cloud if you discontinue.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 20:47, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks. I'm guessing files it can't match will no longer be based in the 
>> cloud if you cancel, correct? But that you keep matched content is good to 
>> know, I just wonder if you only keep it locally or if it is still available 
>> in your cloud-based library (read, purchase history). 
>>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 8:06 PM, John Panarese >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>   iTunes match will basically copy everything you have in your iTunes 
>>> library that is available in the iTunes store. If you have tracks that are 
>>> not available in the iTunes store, it will upload a copy to your iCloud 
>>> library.
>>> 
>>>   Once you have Match, you can choose to download better versions of the 
>>> tracks that ou have in your library. You keep those even if you choose to 
>>> cancel the service.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
>>> 
>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 
>>> Mountain Lion
>>> 
>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>> 
>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Alex Hall >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Quick question. If I got iTunes Match, it will upload all music I have 
 that iTunes doesn't, and "match" music it does have, essentially 
 considering the matched songs purchased. If I discontinue Match after the 
 first year, would I keep the matched music? That is, after I stop using 
 Match, will that music still be considered purchased in my account? Thanks.
 
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Re: needing an ssh client

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Is terminal in the utilities folder not working for you? With terminal 
launched you can just do ssh hostname and get connected or sftp if you 
need to fling files.


CB

On 1/8/15 9:11 AM, Scott Berry wrote:

Does anyone have any ideas as to what a good ssh client with a GUI is for the 
Mac?




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Re: needing an ssh client

[Scott Berry]

II need to do it with public and private keys so I though a GUI would be easier.


> On Jan 8, 2015, at 7:37 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Is terminal in the utilities folder not working for you? With terminal 
> launched you can just do ssh hostname and get connected or sftp if you need 
> to fling files.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 1/8/15 9:11 AM, Scott Berry wrote:
>> Does anyone have any ideas as to what a good ssh client with a GUI is for 
>> the Mac?
>> 
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Re: projecting media to smart tv

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Sounds like you need to set up a DLNA server on your Mac assuming your 
TV supports DLNA wifi video streaming. There are a couple apps out there 
to play media via DLNA. Found this article which does a nice roundup:


http://mashable.com/2011/02/16/media-streaming-how-to/

another list of players is here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UPnP_AV_media_servers_and_clients

I haven't tried any of this as I don't have (or plan to have) a smart TV 
but it seems like others are getting this to work.


CB

On 1/5/15 4:32 PM, Krysti .Power wrote:
hello everyone my name is Krysti and I was wanting to steam some 
videos to my smart tv (witch only has Netflix and youtube) I have a 
MacBook Pro 15 inch early 2011 it doesn't have a HDMI port I called 
Apple they told me to get a display port to HDMI but I was 
wondering can i do it without an apple tv or cable I have a phillips 
smart tv it has 3 HDMI cables and one usb port

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Re: Audio Book Builder transferring books

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

I’m using a Mac, not an ios device.
> On Jan 7, 2015, at 11:07 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> When in the Music app, on the main page, double-tap the More button, then 
> double-tap the Edit button.  Drag the items you want in the tabs along the 
> bottom to their place.  To drag, double-tap and hold then drag it.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 16:21, Sarai Bucciarelli  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi:
>> How do you customize the tabs?
>>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 2:20 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> You can also customize this so that Audio Books is one of the tabs along 
>>> the bottom so that you don’t need to use more.  It all depends on which of 
>>> those items you use the most. Since I often listen to Audio Books on my 
>>> phone, I’ve put it along the bottom for my iPhone.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 13:12, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
 
 Just in case you don't know - and forgive me if you do - on idevices 
 audiobooks can be found when you activate "more" tab.  Otherwise you won't 
 find them under music.
 
 Andrew
> On 7 Jan 2015, at 16:26, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> I’m still not having any luck. Yes, my book shows up in itunes 12 under 
> audio books, but it will not sync to my phone. Here is what I do. I have 
> iTunes 12, and an iPhone 5s.
> I have manually manage content checked.
> I connect the cable to my Mac, and iPhone. I open iTunes. I navigate past 
> the music radio button, and go to the more pop up. I choose audio books, 
> and press vo space. I vo right arrow over to the my audio books and make 
> sure it says selected. I vo right arrow again until I hear book grid no 
> selection. I interact wit the grid and hear my audio book title: it says 
> 1 of 1. There is no check box here. I make sure VO says selected though. 
> I vo right arrow past the iPhone pop up button until I hear scroll area. 
> I interact with that scroll area. I go to the end, stop interacting, go 
> across until I hear the sync button. I vo space on sync. Itunes dings, I 
> eject phone, and I have no book on phone.
> What am I doing wrong? 
>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 12:00 AM, Faisal ali  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> If they appear in the audiobooks section of your iTunes library, you'll 
>> have to check the box to have them sync.
>> Once your device is connectd, find audiobooks in the table and interact 
>> with the scrole area and swipe over to the checkbox for syncing. Check 
>> the box and try syncing again and it should work.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
>> Sent: January-06-15 8:19 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Audio Book Builder transferring books
>> 
>> Hi:
>> Cool app! I took my first CD, and created the audio book. It appears all 
>> chapters in the CD track are joined correctly, and play in iTunes. Now, 
>> How do I transfer the books to my iPhone or my iPod Nano?! I have iTunes 
>> 12, and Have iTunes match, but my book doesn’t appear on my phone. My 
>> iPhone doesn’t appear on my itunes via wireless sync.
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Re: Transferring audio content questions

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

I bought in hte Mac app store. Definitely worth the money.
> On Jan 8, 2015, at 5:59 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> No it costs but is worth the money.
> /A
>> 7 jan 2015 kl. 04:08 skrev Sarai Bucciarelli :
>> 
>> Is it free?
>>> On Jan 6, 2015, at 7:06 PM, Sean Murphy  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Get audiobook builder it will do it for you.
>>> On 7 Jan 2015, at 11:22 am, Sarai Bucciarelli  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hello:
 I purchased a group of audio downloads from a web site. We have 15 disks 
 that are zipped up, disk 1, disk 2, etc. When you unzip each disk, you 
 have 41 tracks in each folder. ie. audio disk 1, and track 1, track, 2, 
 etc. There are no tags, just folders labeled disk 1, disk 2, and under 
 track 1, track 2, etc. I want to somehow transfer these audio disks to my 
 ipod nano and iphone. I need the tracks to play in order since they re 
 Spanish lessons, and each disk has to have the tracks play in order. How 
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Sorting Data in Numbers

[Jim Fettgather]

This one really has me stumped.
After highlighting a row of numbers to be sorted in either a row or column of 
numbers, then stop interacting with the table and VO left arrow to the 
formatter group, because this seems to be where the sort options are located, 
no matter what I select, the sort now option is dimmed.
Evem doing VO Shift M, and then selecting sort options, I am immediately 
returned back to the spreadsheet.
Is there a hidden secrent  to be able to sort data in Numbers?
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How to stop getting the extra letters when using TextEdit or any other editor

[Joseph]

Hello List,
Here’s one that really bothers me, I guess.
When editing text, in a textedit or Pages.
If you hit the escape key, the computer brings up I  I   I letters. what does 
this mean and how do I stop this really dumb occurrence?

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Re: How to stop getting the extra letters when using TextEdit or any other editor

[Tyler Thompson]

in TextEdit it’s bringing up a list of auto-complete/prediction options. The 
same as iOS8 gave us for sending text messages using their prediction technology
> On Jan 8, 2015, at 11:25 AM, Joseph  wrote:
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> Here’s one that really bothers me, I guess.
> When editing text, in a textedit or Pages.
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Re: How to stop getting the extra letters when using TextEdit or any other editor

[Joseph]

Hello,
Thanks. I guess I’ll play around with it and learn how to use it, I hope.

> On Jan 8, 2015, at 10:30 AM, Tyler Thompson  wrote:
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> in TextEdit it’s bringing up a list of auto-complete/prediction options. The 
> same as iOS8 gave us for sending text messages using their prediction 
> technology
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>> 
>> Hello List,
>> Here’s one that really bothers me, I guess.
>> When editing text, in a textedit or Pages.
>> If you hit the escape key, the computer brings up I  I   I letters. what 
>> does this mean and how do I stop this really dumb occurrence?
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Re: Sorting Data in Numbers

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi,
try to jump to the head of the table at first by pressing VO + Shift + ‚. It 
might be another key combination on english keyboards but you might find it 
yourself. There you can choose wether to jump to column head or row head. Then 
you can open the context menue.
But in terms of the sorting data entry in the menue I got the same results. I 
wonder wether there’s something broken.
All the best
Jürgen


> Am 08.01.2015 um 17:53 schrieb Jim Fettgather :
> 
> This one really has me stumped.
> After highlighting a row of numbers to be sorted in either a row or column of 
> numbers, then stop interacting with the table and VO left arrow to the 
> formatter group, because this seems to be where the sort options are located, 
> no matter what I select, the sort now option is dimmed.
> Evem doing VO Shift M, and then selecting sort options, I am immediately 
> returned back to the spreadsheet.
> Is there a hidden secrent  to be able to sort data in Numbers?
> Thanks.
>  
>  
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Bluetooth Numeric Keypad

[The Believer]

   Does anyone use one of these keypads with the Macbook Pro? Any 
recommendations?


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Re: Bluetooth Numeric Keypad

[David Griffith]

I bought one to use remotely in my armchair with my iMac  which I was never 
able to pair successfully.

however a cheaper USB model works absolutely fine.

If you are think  of using NumPad commander you need to be aware  that there is 
a slight difference between the dApple Numeric keypad layout and the Windows 
Default which exists on third party numpads. Essentially the Windows numpad 
does not include  an equals key.  This is a nuisance as by  default numpad 
commander uses this as the go to menu key. I have got around this by 
configuring the minus key which is by default bring up VO Help as the new go to 
menu key. I always use VO H to bring up VO help anyway so this is a easy 
adjustment.

David Griffith
> On 8 Jan 2015, at 19:05, The Believer  wrote:
> 
>   Does anyone use one of these keypads with the Macbook Pro? Any 
> recommendations?
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Re: Bluetooth Numeric Keypad

[The Believer]

   Thanks David. Do you remember the brand so I don't get the same one? :)

   I want to avoid USB as I already have too many cables to trip over. 
And thanks for the tip on the equals key. will watch for that.


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On 1/8/2015 11:23 AM, David Griffith wrote:

I bought one to use remotely in my armchair with my iMac  which I was never 
able to pair successfully.

however a cheaper USB model works absolutely fine.

If you are think  of using NumPad commander you need to be aware  that there is 
a slight difference between the dApple Numeric keypad layout and the Windows 
Default which exists on third party numpads. Essentially the Windows numpad 
does not include  an equals key.  This is a nuisance as by  default numpad 
commander uses this as the go to menu key. I have got around this by 
configuring the minus key which is by default bring up VO Help as the new go to 
menu key. I always use VO H to bring up VO help anyway so this is a easy 
adjustment.

David Griffith

On 8 Jan 2015, at 19:05, The Believer  wrote:

   Does anyone use one of these keypads with the Macbook Pro? Any 
recommendations?

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Re: iTunes Match: do you keep matched tracks after your Match ends?

[Kliph]

So let me get this straight.  I was told if your music in your iTunes library 
is already in the match data base, that it does not count against your 25 
thousand count limit, only songs that match cannot find are counted against 
you?  Do I have it correct?  So for example, I have over 250 thousand songs in 
my iTunes library, if 10 thousand of them can’t be found, that is all that will 
be counted against my limit?  Someone please clarify.
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> On Jan 8, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Okay, thanks, that makes sense and is about what I figured. I'm still not 
> sure if Match is worth the price for me, especially when I could spend less 
> and just expand my iCloud storage, then dump my music on that instead.
>> On Jan 8, 2015, at 12:18 AM, Tim Kilburn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Matched are considered different than Purchased to iTunes, so those Matched 
>> items you’ve downloaded to the local machine will remain yours to use and 
>> only Purchased media will be available from the Cloud if you discontinue.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 20:47, Alex Hall >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks. I'm guessing files it can't match will no longer be based in the 
>>> cloud if you cancel, correct? But that you keep matched content is good to 
>>> know, I just wonder if you only keep it locally or if it is still available 
>>> in your cloud-based library (read, purchase history). 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 8:06 PM, John Panarese >>> > wrote:
 
   iTunes match will basically copy everything you have in your iTunes 
 library that is available in the iTunes store. If you have tracks that are 
 not available in the iTunes store, it will upload a copy to your iCloud 
 library.
 
   Once you have Match, you can choose to download better versions of the 
 tracks that ou have in your library. You keep those even if you choose to 
 cancel the service.
 
 
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> On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Alex Hall  > wrote:
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> Hi all,
> Quick question. If I got iTunes Match, it will upload all music I have 
> that iTunes doesn't, and "match" music it does have, essentially 
> considering the matched songs purchased. If I discontinue Match after the 
> first year, would I keep the matched music? That is, after I stop using 
> Match, will that music still be considered purchased in my account? 
> Thanks.
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tweet bot

[Faisal ali]

Hi all,
I’m wondering if anyone on here uses Tweet bot? I’m interested in another 
twitter client than night owl, but don’t want to put down 20 bucks for a app 
that isn’t accessible.
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Re: Sorting Data in Numbers

[Phil Halton]

In numbers, I sort table rows/columns by the following method. I don’t know if 
this will work the same with a selection, but it might. A little 
experimentation will tell the tale.

for sorting tables by row or column.
1, position VO anywhere in the table and press VO Shift Vertical bar (the key 
above the return key).
2, Press VO down or up arrow to select whether to work in rows or columns.
3, VO right or left to select the desired column heading, or up and down to 
select the desired row heading, and press VO space to select it.

for example, if you wanted to sort by column C, you would arrow down to Column 
headers after pressing VO shift vertical bar, then arrow right or left until 
you get to Column C and then press VO space to make it the selected column.

4, bring up the context menu with VO shift M.
5, arrow down through the menu and select the desired  sort option.
6, exit the headers and return to the normal table mode by pressing VO shift 
vertical bar again.

This procedure sorts the entire table by either rows or columns. To sort a 
subset of rows/columns in a table, you would first select the rows/columns to 
be sorted, and then go into the sort/filter inspector. in there you would add 
the row or column you wish to sort by by pressing the “add” button,  and then 
you can set sort options in the scroll area before actually doing the sort by 
pressing the “sort now” button.

I just messed around with this a little and I don’t believe you can sort just a 
selection of data in a table row or column. That is, the entire row or column 
will be included in the sort action with the selected field being the sort key.
Hope this all makes sense.

> 
> Hi,
> try to jump to the head of the table at first by pressing VO + Shift + ‚. It 
> might be another key combination on english keyboards but you might find it 
> yourself. There you can choose wether to jump to column head or row head. 
> Then you can open the context menue.
> But in terms of the sorting data entry in the menue I got the same results. I 
> wonder wether there’s something broken.
> All the best
> Jürgen
> 
> 
>> Am 08.01.2015 um 17:53 schrieb Jim Fettgather > >:
>> 
>> This one really has me stumped.
>> After highlighting a row of numbers to be sorted in either a row or column 
>> of numbers, then stop interacting with the table and VO left arrow to the 
>> formatter group, because this seems to be where the sort options are 
>> located, no matter what I select, the sort now option is dimmed.
>> Evem doing VO Shift M, and then selecting sort options, I am immediately  
>> returned back to the spreadsheet.
>> Is there a hidden secrent  to be able to sort data in Numbers?
>> Thanks.
>>  
>>  
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Latest Pages and Numbers updates, anything broken?

[Phil Halton]

Has any brave soul upgraded to the latest Pages and Numbers Versions released 
today? Did they break anything? I’m very timid about upgrading these two apps 
as I am reliant on them working as expected or better - but not worse - I don’t 
like surprises.

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Re: tweet bot

[Portia Scott]

Hello there,

The last time I tried tweet bot, if I remember correctly it was not very 
accessible. I could be wrong, I've tried many Twitter apps. But who knows. It 
might just be accessible for you. At least, I think I remember trying tweet 
bot. Although it was a long time ago.

Sent from my iPhone

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> I’m wondering if anyone on here uses Tweet bot? I’m interested in another 
> twitter client than night owl, but don’t want to put down 20 bucks for a app 
> that isn’t accessible.
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Is Setting Styles Fixed in Latest Pages?

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
I don't use Pages much, but I like to keep up on where it is compared to other 
productivity solutions. So, did the update released today (Jan 08, 2015) fix 
the problem where VO users couldn't set styles without resorting to mouse 
tricks? Are there any other VO improvements?

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Re: Bluetooth Numeric Keypad

[David Griffith]

Afraid not. It was second hand on eBay but I remember that there were not that 
many bluetooth models which claimed to be Mac compatible.
 In fact I think I found only one model which claimed it would definitely work 
on the mac.
 
WhenI looked the bluetooth option was seriously more expensive than USB. I paid 
£19 for my non working second hand option but a new version would have set me 
back about £40 at the time.
The USB model I bought was I think from memory £6 or £7. It was certainly under 
£10 and as I say it worked instantly unlike the grief with the bluetooth 
version. This product made no mention of support for the mac and I gambled on 
buying it, but it worked anyway. ..

Hopefully you will have more success in sourcing a reasonably priced bluetooth 
option. 

David Griffith
> On 8 Jan 2015, at 19:46, The Believer  wrote:
> 
>  Thanks David. Do you remember the brand so I don't get the same one? :)
> 
>  I want to avoid USB as I already have too many cables to trip over. And 
> thanks for the tip on the equals key. will watch for that.
> 
> From The Believer. . .
> . . . what if it were true?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 1/8/2015 11:23 AM, David Griffith wrote:
>> I bought one to use remotely in my armchair with my iMac which I was never 
>> able to pair successfully.
>> 
>> however a cheaper USB model works absolutely fine.
>> 
>> If you are think of using NumPad commander you need to be aware that there 
>> is a slight difference between the dApple Numeric keypad layout and the 
>> Windows Default which exists on third party numpads. Essentially the Windows 
>> numpad does not include an equals key. This is a nuisance as by default 
>> numpad commander uses this as the go to menu key. I have got around this by 
>> configuring the minus key which is by default bring up VO Help as the new go 
>> to menu key. I always use VO H to bring up VO help anyway so this is a easy 
>> adjustment.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>>> On 8 Jan 2015, at 19:05, The Believer  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Does anyone use one of these keypads with the Macbook Pro? Any 
>>> recommendations?
>>> 
>>> From The Believer. . .
>>> . . . what if it were true?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
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Re: Audio Book Builder transferring books

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Oops, sorry.  On the Mac in iTunes, VO-space on the More button after the 
current tabbed items like Music, Movies etc.  A pop-over will appear listing 
the items in the More category including an Edit button.  Vo-space on the Edit 
button and check the items you want to see regularly on the main iTunes page.  
This will not change the keyboard shortcut but will make the checked items 
visible on the main page so you don’t need to press the More button.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jan 8, 2015, at 08:07, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m using a Mac, not an ios device.
>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 11:07 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> When in the Music app, on the main page, double-tap the More button, then 
>> double-tap the Edit button.  Drag the items you want in the tabs along the 
>> bottom to their place.  To drag, double-tap and hold then drag it.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 16:21, Sarai Bucciarelli  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi:
>>> How do you customize the tabs?
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 2:20 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 You can also customize this so that Audio Books is one of the tabs along 
 the bottom so that you don’t need to use more.  It all depends on which of 
 those items you use the most. Since I often listen to Audio Books on my 
 phone, I’ve put it along the bottom for my iPhone.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
> On Jan 7, 2015, at 13:12, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Just in case you don't know - and forgive me if you do - on idevices 
> audiobooks can be found when you activate "more" tab.  Otherwise you 
> won't find them under music.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 7 Jan 2015, at 16:26, Sarai Bucciarelli  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello:
>> I’m still not having any luck. Yes, my book shows up in itunes 12 under 
>> audio books, but it will not sync to my phone. Here is what I do. I have 
>> iTunes 12, and an iPhone 5s.
>> I have manually manage content checked.
>> I connect the cable to my Mac, and iPhone. I open iTunes. I navigate 
>> past the music radio button, and go to the more pop up. I choose audio 
>> books, and press vo space. I vo right arrow over to the my audio books 
>> and make sure it says selected. I vo right arrow again until I hear book 
>> grid no selection. I interact wit the grid and hear my audio book title: 
>> it says 1 of 1. There is no check box here. I make sure VO says selected 
>> though. I vo right arrow past the iPhone pop up button until I hear 
>> scroll area. I interact with that scroll area. I go to the end, stop 
>> interacting, go across until I hear the sync button. I vo space on sync. 
>> Itunes dings, I eject phone, and I have no book on phone.
>> What am I doing wrong? 
>>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 12:00 AM, Faisal ali  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> If they appear in the audiobooks section of your iTunes library, you'll 
>>> have to check the box to have them sync.
>>> Once your device is connectd, find audiobooks in the table and interact 
>>> with the scrole area and swipe over to the checkbox for syncing. Check 
>>> the box and try syncing again and it should work.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
>>> Sent: January-06-15 8:19 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Audio Book Builder transferring books
>>> 
>>> Hi:
>>> Cool app! I took my first CD, and created the audio book. It appears 
>>> all chapters in the CD track are joined correctly, and play in iTunes. 
>>> Now, How do I transfer the books to my iPhone or my iPod Nano?! I have 
>>> iTunes 12, and Have iTunes match, but my book doesn’t appear on my 
>>> phone. My iPhone doesn’t appear on my itunes via wireless sync.
>>> 
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Re: iTunes Match: do you keep matched tracks after your Match ends?

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Kliph,

If I’m understanding your example correctly, then you’re correct.

EG:

250,000 songs - Kliph’s total music library.
240,000 songs - Purchased from iTunes
10,000 - Ripped from personal music collection.

Therefore, with an iTunes Match subscription, the 240,000 purchased songs are 
available in the Cloud whether you have iTunes Match or not, so they are not 
counted towards the maximum.  The 10,000 songs that were not purchased from 
iTunes, will either be matched with their respective title in the iTunes world 
or just uploaded to your private iTunes Match space.  If 5,000 of those 
non-purchased songs can actually be matched with songs in the iTunes world, 
then high quality versions of those can be downloaded for free to your personal 
library.  If you do download the high quality version, it is yours to keep.  
The rest of the unmatchable songs will remain the same as they are on your 
local machine and can be streamed or downloaded to any of your devices at 
anytime that you have access to the Internet.  As well, in this scenario, 
you’ve only used 10,000 of your 25,000 song limit, so, lots of room left for 
more.

I find that the iTunes Match is especially useful on my iPhone.  There’s no way 
the iPhone could hold the entire library, but I have full access to it whenever 
I’m either connected to WiFi or to my cellular connection.  I place a couple 
hundred of my more favourite songs on specific playlists and download those 
onto my iPhone for listening when I’m not connected, such as on an airplane or 
off in no-man’s land where there’s no cell signal.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jan 8, 2015, at 13:02, Kliph  wrote:
> 
> So let me get this straight.  I was told if your music in your iTunes library 
> is already in the match data base, that it does not count against your 25 
> thousand count limit, only songs that match cannot find are counted against 
> you?  Do I have it correct?  So for example, I have over 250 thousand songs 
> in my iTunes library, if 10 thousand of them can’t be found, that is all that 
> will be counted against my limit?  Someone please clarify.
> Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick 
> efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to contribute?  
> Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are always 
> patient with you.
> Subscribe here: peel-the-apple+subscr...@googlegroups.com 
> 
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> 
> Or just follow us on twitter https://twitter.com/PealTheApple 
> 
> And ask your question there.  All are welcome!
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 8, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>> Okay, thanks, that makes sense and is about what I figured. I'm still not 
>> sure if Match is worth the price for me, especially when I could spend less 
>> and just expand my iCloud storage, then dump my music on that instead.
>>> On Jan 8, 2015, at 12:18 AM, Tim Kilburn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Matched are considered different than Purchased to iTunes, so those Matched 
>>> items you’ve downloaded to the local machine will remain yours to use and 
>>> only Purchased media will be available from the Cloud if you discontinue.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 20:47, Alex Hall >>> > wrote:
 
 Thanks. I'm guessing files it can't match will no longer be based in the 
 cloud if you cancel, correct? But that you keep matched content is good to 
 know, I just wonder if you only keep it locally or if it is still 
 available in your cloud-based library (read, purchase history). 
> On Jan 7, 2015, at 8:06 PM, John Panarese  > wrote:
> 
>   iTunes match will basically copy everything you have in your iTunes 
> library that is available in the iTunes store. If you have tracks that 
> are not available in the iTunes store, it will upload a copy to your 
> iCloud library.
> 
>   Once you have Match, you can choose to download better versions of the 
> tracks that ou have in your library. You keep those even if you choose to 
> cancel the service.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
> 
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 
> Mountain Lion
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 7, 2015, at

Re: iTunes Match: do you keep matched tracks after your Match ends?

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Cliff, unfortunately it doesn't quite work like this. All the material 
you've purchased from the iTunes Store isn't counted against the 25,000 song 
limit, however everything else is, including material that iTunes has matched 
without the need for you to upload your copy.
25,000 songs is just a fraction of my music library, so I have to maintain a 
separate, smaller iTunes library for iTunes Match.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

> On 9/01/2015, at 9:02 am, Kliph  wrote:
> 
> So let me get this straight.  I was told if your music in your iTunes library 
> is already in the match data base, that it does not count against your 25 
> thousand count limit, only songs that match cannot find are counted against 
> you?  Do I have it correct?  So for example, I have over 250 thousand songs 
> in my iTunes library, if 10 thousand of them can’t be found, that is all that 
> will be counted against my limit?  Someone please clarify.
> Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick 
> efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to contribute?  
> Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are always 
> patient with you.
> Subscribe here: peel-the-apple+subscr...@googlegroups.com 
> 
> Short quick getting started Tutorials: http://peeltheapple.wordpress.com/ 
> 
> Or just follow us on twitter https://twitter.com/PealTheApple 
> 
> And ask your question there.  All are welcome!
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 8, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>> Okay, thanks, that makes sense and is about what I figured. I'm still not 
>> sure if Match is worth the price for me, especially when I could spend less 
>> and just expand my iCloud storage, then dump my music on that instead.
>>> On Jan 8, 2015, at 12:18 AM, Tim Kilburn >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Matched are considered different than Purchased to iTunes, so those Matched 
>>> items you’ve downloaded to the local machine will remain yours to use and 
>>> only Purchased media will be available from the Cloud if you discontinue.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 20:47, Alex Hall >>> > wrote:
 
 Thanks. I'm guessing files it can't match will no longer be based in the 
 cloud if you cancel, correct? But that you keep matched content is good to 
 know, I just wonder if you only keep it locally or if it is still 
 available in your cloud-based library (read, purchase history). 
> On Jan 7, 2015, at 8:06 PM, John Panarese  > wrote:
> 
>   iTunes match will basically copy everything you have in your iTunes 
> library that is available in the iTunes store. If you have tracks that 
> are not available in the iTunes store, it will upload a copy to your 
> iCloud library.
> 
>   Once you have Match, you can choose to download better versions of the 
> tracks that ou have in your library. You keep those even if you choose to 
> cancel the service.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com 
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com 
> 
> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 
> Mountain Lion
> 
> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
> 
> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 7:58 PM, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> Quick question. If I got iTunes Match, it will upload all music I have 
>> that iTunes doesn't, and "match" music it does have, essentially 
>> considering the matched songs purchased. If I discontinue Match after 
>> the first year, would I keep the matched music? That is, after I stop 
>> using Match, will that music still be considered purchased in my 
>> account? Thanks.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: iTunes Match: do you keep matched tracks after your Match ends?

[Tim Kilburn]

Oops, I read over Kliph’s scenario again, and I misunderstood it originally.  
In either case, my explanation stands correct.

Sorry for any confusion.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jan 8, 2015, at 16:51, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kliph,
> 
> If I’m understanding your example correctly, then you’re correct.
> 
> EG:
> 
> 250,000 songs - Kliph’s total music library.
> 240,000 songs - Purchased from iTunes
> 10,000 - Ripped from personal music collection.
> 
> Therefore, with an iTunes Match subscription, the 240,000 purchased songs are 
> available in the Cloud whether you have iTunes Match or not, so they are not 
> counted towards the maximum.  The 10,000 songs that were not purchased from 
> iTunes, will either be matched with their respective title in the iTunes 
> world or just uploaded to your private iTunes Match space.  If 5,000 of those 
> non-purchased songs can actually be matched with songs in the iTunes world, 
> then high quality versions of those can be downloaded for free to your 
> personal library.  If you do download the high quality version, it is yours 
> to keep.  The rest of the unmatchable songs will remain the same as they are 
> on your local machine and can be streamed or downloaded to any of your 
> devices at anytime that you have access to the Internet.  As well, in this 
> scenario, you’ve only used 10,000 of your 25,000 song limit, so, lots of room 
> left for more.
> 
> I find that the iTunes Match is especially useful on my iPhone.  There’s no 
> way the iPhone could hold the entire library, but I have full access to it 
> whenever I’m either connected to WiFi or to my cellular connection.  I place 
> a couple hundred of my more favourite songs on specific playlists and 
> download those onto my iPhone for listening when I’m not connected, such as 
> on an airplane or off in no-man’s land where there’s no cell signal.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jan 8, 2015, at 13:02, Kliph > > wrote:
>> 
>> So let me get this straight.  I was told if your music in your iTunes 
>> library is already in the match data base, that it does not count against 
>> your 25 thousand count limit, only songs that match cannot find are counted 
>> against you?  Do I have it correct?  So for example, I have over 250 
>> thousand songs in my iTunes library, if 10 thousand of them can’t be found, 
>> that is all that will be counted against my limit?  Someone please clarify.
>> Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick 
>> efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to contribute? 
>>  Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are 
>> always patient with you.
>> Subscribe here: peel-the-apple+subscr...@googlegroups.com 
>> 
>> Short quick getting started Tutorials: http://peeltheapple.wordpress.com/ 
>> 
>> Or just follow us on twitter https://twitter.com/PealTheApple 
>> 
>> And ask your question there.  All are welcome!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 8, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Alex Hall >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay, thanks, that makes sense and is about what I figured. I'm still not 
>>> sure if Match is worth the price for me, especially when I could spend less 
>>> and just expand my iCloud storage, then dump my music on that instead.
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 12:18 AM, Tim Kilburn >>> > wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Matched are considered different than Purchased to iTunes, so those 
 Matched items you’ve downloaded to the local machine will remain yours to 
 use and only Purchased media will be available from the Cloud if you 
 discontinue.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
> On Jan 7, 2015, at 20:47, Alex Hall  > wrote:
> 
> Thanks. I'm guessing files it can't match will no longer be based in the 
> cloud if you cancel, correct? But that you keep matched content is good 
> to know, I just wonder if you only keep it locally or if it is still 
> available in your cloud-based library (read, purchase history). 
>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 8:06 PM, John Panarese > > wrote:
>> 
>>   iTunes match will basically copy everything you have in your iTunes 
>> library that is available in the iTunes store. If you have tracks that 
>> are not available in the iTunes store, it will upload a copy to your 
>> iCloud library.
>> 
>>   Once you have Match, you can choose to download better versions of the 
>> tracks that ou have in your library. You keep those even if you choose 
>> to cancel the service.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind

Re: iTunes Match: do you keep matched tracks after your Match ends?

[Faisal ali]

In other words, if your entire music collection IE 400 000 songs are all 
matched in the iTunes store, you will only have access to 25000 per year?
> On Jan 8, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Oops, I read over Kliph’s scenario again, and I misunderstood it originally.  
> In either case, my explanation stands correct.
> 
> Sorry for any confusion.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jan 8, 2015, at 16:51, Tim Kilburn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Kliph,
>> 
>> If I’m understanding your example correctly, then you’re correct.
>> 
>> EG:
>> 
>> 250,000 songs - Kliph’s total music library.
>> 240,000 songs - Purchased from iTunes
>> 10,000 - Ripped from personal music collection.
>> 
>> Therefore, with an iTunes Match subscription, the 240,000 purchased songs 
>> are available in the Cloud whether you have iTunes Match or not, so they are 
>> not counted towards the maximum.  The 10,000 songs that were not purchased 
>> from iTunes, will either be matched with their respective title in the 
>> iTunes world or just uploaded to your private iTunes Match space.  If 5,000 
>> of those non-purchased songs can actually be matched with songs in the 
>> iTunes world, then high quality versions of those can be downloaded for free 
>> to your personal library.  If you do download the high quality version, it 
>> is yours to keep.  The rest of the unmatchable songs will remain the same as 
>> they are on your local machine and can be streamed or downloaded to any of 
>> your devices at anytime that you have access to the Internet.  As well, in 
>> this scenario, you’ve only used 10,000 of your 25,000 song limit, so, lots 
>> of room left for more.
>> 
>> I find that the iTunes Match is especially useful on my iPhone.  There’s no 
>> way the iPhone could hold the entire library, but I have full access to it 
>> whenever I’m either connected to WiFi or to my cellular connection.  I place 
>> a couple hundred of my more favourite songs on specific playlists and 
>> download those onto my iPhone for listening when I’m not connected, such as 
>> on an airplane or off in no-man’s land where there’s no cell signal.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jan 8, 2015, at 13:02, Kliph >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> So let me get this straight.  I was told if your music in your iTunes 
>>> library is already in the match data base, that it does not count against 
>>> your 25 thousand count limit, only songs that match cannot find are counted 
>>> against you?  Do I have it correct?  So for example, I have over 250 
>>> thousand songs in my iTunes library, if 10 thousand of them can’t be found, 
>>> that is all that will be counted against my limit?  Someone please clarify.
>>> Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick 
>>> efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to 
>>> contribute?  Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and 
>>> we are always patient with you.
>>> Subscribe here: peel-the-apple+subscr...@googlegroups.com 
>>> 
>>> Short quick getting started Tutorials: http://peeltheapple.wordpress.com/ 
>>> 
>>> Or just follow us on twitter https://twitter.com/PealTheApple 
>>> 
>>> And ask your question there.  All are welcome!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 8, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Alex Hall >>> > wrote:
 
 Okay, thanks, that makes sense and is about what I figured. I'm still not 
 sure if Match is worth the price for me, especially when I could spend 
 less and just expand my iCloud storage, then dump my music on that instead.
> On Jan 8, 2015, at 12:18 AM, Tim Kilburn  > wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Matched are considered different than Purchased to iTunes, so those 
> Matched items you’ve downloaded to the local machine will remain yours to 
> use and only Purchased media will be available from the Cloud if you 
> discontinue.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 20:47, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks. I'm guessing files it can't match will no longer be based in the 
>> cloud if you cancel, correct? But that you keep matched content is good 
>> to know, I just wonder if you only keep it locally or if it is still 
>> available in your cloud-based library (read, purchase history). 
>>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 8:06 PM, John Panarese >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>   iTunes match will basically copy everything you have in your iTunes 
>>> library that is available in the iTunes store. If you have tracks that 
>>> are not available in the iTunes store, it will upload a 

Re: Audio Book Builder transferring books

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Thank you!
It appears that I got my book transferred. Just not sure how I did it. LOL!
> On Jan 8, 2015, at 5:31 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Oops, sorry.  On the Mac in iTunes, VO-space on the More button after the 
> current tabbed items like Music, Movies etc.  A pop-over will appear listing 
> the items in the More category including an Edit button.  Vo-space on the 
> Edit button and check the items you want to see regularly on the main iTunes 
> page.  This will not change the keyboard shortcut but will make the checked 
> items visible on the main page so you don’t need to press the More button.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jan 8, 2015, at 08:07, Sarai Bucciarelli  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’m using a Mac, not an ios device.
>>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 11:07 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> When in the Music app, on the main page, double-tap the More button, then 
>>> double-tap the Edit button.  Drag the items you want in the tabs along the 
>>> bottom to their place.  To drag, double-tap and hold then drag it.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 16:21, Sarai Bucciarelli  
 wrote:
 
 Hi:
 How do you customize the tabs?
> On Jan 7, 2015, at 2:20 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You can also customize this so that Audio Books is one of the tabs along 
> the bottom so that you don’t need to use more.  It all depends on which 
> of those items you use the most. Since I often listen to Audio Books on 
> my phone, I’ve put it along the bottom for my iPhone.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 13:12, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>> Just in case you don't know - and forgive me if you do - on idevices 
>> audiobooks can be found when you activate "more" tab.  Otherwise you 
>> won't find them under music.
>> 
>> Andrew
>>> On 7 Jan 2015, at 16:26, Sarai Bucciarelli 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello:
>>> I’m still not having any luck. Yes, my book shows up in itunes 12 under 
>>> audio books, but it will not sync to my phone. Here is what I do. I 
>>> have iTunes 12, and an iPhone 5s.
>>> I have manually manage content checked.
>>> I connect the cable to my Mac, and iPhone. I open iTunes. I navigate 
>>> past the music radio button, and go to the more pop up. I choose audio 
>>> books, and press vo space. I vo right arrow over to the my audio books 
>>> and make sure it says selected. I vo right arrow again until I hear 
>>> book grid no selection. I interact wit the grid and hear my audio book 
>>> title: it says 1 of 1. There is no check box here. I make sure VO says 
>>> selected though. I vo right arrow past the iPhone pop up button until I 
>>> hear scroll area. I interact with that scroll area. I go to the end, 
>>> stop interacting, go across until I hear the sync button. I vo space on 
>>> sync. Itunes dings, I eject phone, and I have no book on phone.
>>> What am I doing wrong? 
 On Jan 7, 2015, at 12:00 AM, Faisal ali  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 If they appear in the audiobooks section of your iTunes library, 
 you'll have to check the box to have them sync.
 Once your device is connectd, find audiobooks in the table and 
 interact with the scrole area and swipe over to the checkbox for 
 syncing. Check the box and try syncing again and it should work.
 
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
 Sent: January-06-15 8:19 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Audio Book Builder transferring books
 
 Hi:
 Cool app! I took my first CD, and created the audio book. It appears 
 all chapters in the CD track are joined correctly, and play in iTunes. 
 Now, How do I transfer the books to my iPhone or my iPod Nano?! I have 
 iTunes 12, and Have iTunes match, but my book doesn’t appear on my 
 phone. My iPhone doesn’t appear on my itunes via wireless sync.
 
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Re: Latest Pages and Numbers updates, anything broken?

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

No!
I’m to scared to update! I’ll wait until another victum… um, I mean person 
upgrades. LOL

> On Jan 8, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> Has any brave soul upgraded to the latest Pages and Numbers Versions released 
> today? Did they break anything? I’m very timid about upgrading these two apps 
> as I am reliant on them working as expected or better - but not worse - I 
> don’t like surprises.
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Re: Bluetooth Numeric Keypad

[Cheryl Homiak]

I went searching at one time and got a usb one with a kind of retractable cable 
that kind of worked with my Mac but wasn't really consistent. So I've been 
interested in this for a while and would also really like a bluetooth one. 
Because of this thread, I decided to do a little search on Amazon. Here is the 
link to the one I found that seemed to have the best overall rating and the 
most really positive reviews. I've also included one description from another 
review that I got by searching google. It does appear that there is not an 
equals key on this one but that equals is produced with enter and a backspace 
key in the top row so reprogramming of numpad kommander would be necessary for 
numpad commander. But none of the others I found had a rating anywhere near 
this one. But since I haven't bought it yet, I'm not able to say anything 
firsthand and you would do well to research it thoroughly before buying.
 
http://www.amazon.com/Satechi-Bluetooth-Wireless-Keypad-MacBook/dp/B00CJKW4WQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1420761164&sr=1-1&keywords=bluetooth+numeric+keypad

The Satechi Wireless Smart Keypad has been imbued with the Apple design 
aesthetic. It’s the same color and shape as the Apple keyboard, but it's made 
from plastic instead of aluminum. It’s an inch deeper than the keyboard and 
1.25 inches narrower than the trackpad.
There’s a reason for the size mismatch: the Satechi Keypad also functions as a 
standalone calculator, so it has a 12-digit LCD screen across the top along 
with two rows of dedicated calculator keys.

Setup and pairing is simple. After inserting the two provided AAA batteries 
into the battery compartment via the latch on the bottom, I turned it on, 
selected Mac from the “Mac/PC” toggle switch, pressed the “Comm” button on the 
underside, and it paired with my iMac in the same manner as any other keyboard.

Once turned on, you can leave the power switch in the “on” position and the 
keypad will sleep when it's not needed; to wake it, simply press the “wake 
ce/ac” button. There’s a small “mode” button at the right of the top row of 
calculator buttons that will switch the device between calculator and keypad 
modes and it works well: my iMac invariably recognizes it as an input device 
within a split second of switching from calculator mode.

As a basic calculator, it gets the job done. As a numeric keypad, it works 
extremely well. The layout is slightly different than the numeric keypad on the 
Apple Extended Keyboard, with the equals function performed by the enter key 
and a backspace key in the top row, but the tactile sensation and key return is 
similar to that of Apple’s keyboards.

At $35.99, there are less-expensive alternatives than the Satechi Wireless 
Smart Keypad, but I find the built-in calculator function to be very useful and 
I like the fact that it matches the rest of the computer hardware on my 
desktop. If you find yourself longing for a numeric keypad that can act as a 
standalone calculator, you could do a lot worse than the Satechi.

This description/review came from
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/03/satechi-wireless-smart-keypad-continues-where-apple-wireless-keyboard-left-off/
-- 
Cheryl

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Jan 8, 2015, at 5:15 PM, David Griffith  wrote:

Afraid not. It was second hand on eBay but I remember that there were not that 
many bluetooth models which claimed to be Mac compatible.
In fact I think I found only one model which claimed it would definitely work 
on the mac.

WhenI looked the bluetooth option was seriously more expensive than USB. I paid 
£19 for my non working second hand option but a new version would have set me 
back about £40 at the time.
The USB model I bought was I think from memory £6 or £7. It was certainly under 
£10 and as I say it worked instantly unlike the grief with the bluetooth 
version. This product made no mention of support for the mac and I gambled on 
buying it, but it worked anyway. ..

Hopefully you will have more success in sourcing a reasonably priced bluetooth 
option. 

David Griffith
> On 8 Jan 2015, at 19:46, The Believer  wrote:
> 
> Thanks David. Do you remember the brand so I don't get the same one? :)
> 
> I want to avoid USB as I already have too many cables to trip over. And 
> thanks for the tip on the equals key. will watch for that.
> 
> From The Believer. . .
> . . . what if it were true?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 1/8/2015 11:23 AM, David Griffith wrote:
>> I bought one to use remotely in my armchair with my iMac which I was never 
>> able to pair successfully.
>> 
>> howe

Re: Bluetooth Numeric Keypad

[Phil Halton]

For what it's worth the Apple USB keyboard is a full-sized keyboard and it has 
a numeric keypad on it. I know it's not Bluetooth but it couldn't be any more 
inconvenient to carry around this keyboard then a Bluetooth numb pad. 

Sent from my IPhone


> On Jan 8, 2015, at 7:59 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
> I went searching at one time and got a usb one with a kind of retractable 
> cable that kind of worked with my Mac but wasn't really consistent. So I've 
> been interested in this for a while and would also really like a bluetooth 
> one. Because of this thread, I decided to do a little search on Amazon. Here 
> is the link to the one I found that seemed to have the best overall rating 
> and the most really positive reviews. I've also included one description from 
> another review that I got by searching google. It does appear that there is 
> not an equals key on this one but that equals is produced with enter and a 
> backspace key in the top row so reprogramming of numpad kommander would be 
> necessary for numpad commander. But none of the others I found had a rating 
> anywhere near this one. But since I haven't bought it yet, I'm not able to 
> say anything firsthand and you would do well to research it thoroughly before 
> buying.
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Satechi-Bluetooth-Wireless-Keypad-MacBook/dp/B00CJKW4WQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1420761164&sr=1-1&keywords=bluetooth+numeric+keypad
> 
> The Satechi Wireless Smart Keypad has been imbued with the Apple design 
> aesthetic. It’s the same color and shape as the Apple keyboard, but it's made 
> from plastic instead of aluminum. It’s an inch deeper than the keyboard and 
> 1.25 inches narrower than the trackpad.
> There’s a reason for the size mismatch: the Satechi Keypad also functions as 
> a standalone calculator, so it has a 12-digit LCD screen across the top along 
> with two rows of dedicated calculator keys.
> 
> Setup and pairing is simple. After inserting the two provided AAA batteries 
> into the battery compartment via the latch on the bottom, I turned it on, 
> selected Mac from the “Mac/PC” toggle switch, pressed the “Comm” button on 
> the underside, and it paired with my iMac in the same manner as any other 
> keyboard.
> 
> Once turned on, you can leave the power switch in the “on” position and the 
> keypad will sleep when it's not needed; to wake it, simply press the “wake 
> ce/ac” button. There’s a small “mode” button at the right of the top row of 
> calculator buttons that will switch the device between calculator and keypad 
> modes and it works well: my iMac invariably recognizes it as an input device 
> within a split second of switching from calculator mode.
> 
> As a basic calculator, it gets the job done. As a numeric keypad, it works 
> extremely well. The layout is slightly different than the numeric keypad on 
> the Apple Extended Keyboard, with the equals function performed by the enter 
> key and a backspace key in the top row, but the tactile sensation and key 
> return is similar to that of Apple’s keyboards.
> 
> At $35.99, there are less-expensive alternatives than the Satechi Wireless 
> Smart Keypad, but I find the built-in calculator function to be very useful 
> and I like the fact that it matches the rest of the computer hardware on my 
> desktop. If you find yourself longing for a numeric keypad that can act as a 
> standalone calculator, you could do a lot worse than the Satechi.
> 
> This description/review came from
> http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/03/satechi-wireless-smart-keypad-continues-where-apple-wireless-keyboard-left-off/
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 8, 2015, at 5:15 PM, David Griffith  wrote:
> 
> Afraid not. It was second hand on eBay but I remember that there were not 
> that many bluetooth models which claimed to be Mac compatible.
> In fact I think I found only one model which claimed it would definitely work 
> on the mac.
> 
> WhenI looked the bluetooth option was seriously more expensive than USB. I 
> paid £19 for my non working second hand option but a new version would have 
> set me back about £40 at the time.
> The USB model I bought was I think from memory £6 or £7. It was certainly 
> under £10 and as I say it worked instantly unlike the grief with the 
> bluetooth version. This product made no mention of support for the mac and I 
> gambled on buying it, but it worked anyway. ..
> 
> Hopefully you will have more success in sourcing a reasonably priced 
> bluetooth option. 
> 
> David Griffith
>> On 8 Jan 2015, at 19:46, 

Re: Bluetooth Numeric Keypad

[Cheryl Homiak]

Yes, I actually have the usb keyboard. It is a nice keyboard but (1) it is usb 
not bluetooth) an (2) it is significantly longer than a regular Apple keyboard 
and of course much longer than a numeric keypad. Especially if you are using a 
computer that already has a built-in keyboard, you may want something with a 
much smaller footprint rather than the full usb one. But most definitely, if 
the usb Apple keyboard does meet your needs, there's no particular need to buy 
a separate numeric keypad. I think the issue is that a lot of people are using 
a bluetooth keyboard, not just with iMacs and minis, but also with macbooks, 
and often don't want to carry around the longer usb keyboard and have to plug 
it into the computer on top of that. Apple used to put out a bluetooth keyboard 
that was full, including numeric keypad; one of mine died and the other was 
given to a friend but they never worked with iOS devices and I don't know for 
sure if they still work with newer Macs though they might.

-- 
Cheryl

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Jan 8, 2015, at 7:33 PM, Phil Halton  wrote:

For what it's worth the Apple USB keyboard is a full-sized keyboard and it has 
a numeric keypad on it. I know it's not Bluetooth but it couldn't be any more 
inconvenient to carry around this keyboard then a Bluetooth numb pad. 

Sent from my IPhone


> On Jan 8, 2015, at 7:59 PM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
> I went searching at one time and got a usb one with a kind of retractable 
> cable that kind of worked with my Mac but wasn't really consistent. So I've 
> been interested in this for a while and would also really like a bluetooth 
> one. Because of this thread, I decided to do a little search on Amazon. Here 
> is the link to the one I found that seemed to have the best overall rating 
> and the most really positive reviews. I've also included one description from 
> another review that I got by searching google. It does appear that there is 
> not an equals key on this one but that equals is produced with enter and a 
> backspace key in the top row so reprogramming of numpad kommander would be 
> necessary for numpad commander. But none of the others I found had a rating 
> anywhere near this one. But since I haven't bought it yet, I'm not able to 
> say anything firsthand and you would do well to research it thoroughly before 
> buying.
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Satechi-Bluetooth-Wireless-Keypad-MacBook/dp/B00CJKW4WQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1420761164&sr=1-1&keywords=bluetooth+numeric+keypad
> 
> The Satechi Wireless Smart Keypad has been imbued with the Apple design 
> aesthetic. It’s the same color and shape as the Apple keyboard, but it's made 
> from plastic instead of aluminum. It’s an inch deeper than the keyboard and 
> 1.25 inches narrower than the trackpad.
> There’s a reason for the size mismatch: the Satechi Keypad also functions as 
> a standalone calculator, so it has a 12-digit LCD screen across the top along 
> with two rows of dedicated calculator keys.
> 
> Setup and pairing is simple. After inserting the two provided AAA batteries 
> into the battery compartment via the latch on the bottom, I turned it on, 
> selected Mac from the “Mac/PC” toggle switch, pressed the “Comm” button on 
> the underside, and it paired with my iMac in the same manner as any other 
> keyboard.
> 
> Once turned on, you can leave the power switch in the “on” position and the 
> keypad will sleep when it's not needed; to wake it, simply press the “wake 
> ce/ac” button. There’s a small “mode” button at the right of the top row of 
> calculator buttons that will switch the device between calculator and keypad 
> modes and it works well: my iMac invariably recognizes it as an input device 
> within a split second of switching from calculator mode.
> 
> As a basic calculator, it gets the job done. As a numeric keypad, it works 
> extremely well. The layout is slightly different than the numeric keypad on 
> the Apple Extended Keyboard, with the equals function performed by the enter 
> key and a backspace key in the top row, but the tactile sensation and key 
> return is similar to that of Apple’s keyboards.
> 
> At $35.99, there are less-expensive alternatives than the Satechi Wireless 
> Smart Keypad, but I find the built-in calculator function to be very useful 
> and I like the fact that it matches the rest of the computer hardware on my 
> desktop. If you find yourself longing for a numeric keypad that can act as a 
> standalone calculator, you could do a lot worse than the Satechi.
> 
> This description/review came from
> http://arste

A suggestion for anybody who is losing voiceover speech in Yosemite: switch to classic mail

[Cheryl Homiak]

Hi all.

Ever since I started using Yosemite on my iMac, I have had intermittent issues 
with voiceover stopping. I don't think voiceover actually turns off but my 
arrow keys would do nothing, vo-arrows did nothing at least not with sound 
feedback, and command-tabbing gave me little clicking sounds sometimes. If I 
then got vo turned off and back on, I would have speech back until I got into 
mail again. Sometimes mail would also be okay, but often as soon as I got into 
my inbox messages table, the same thing would happen. At first I tended to 
blame it on some kind of bluetooth keyboard bug or on the fact that I switch 
between several bluetooth keyboards regularly. But at one point I plugged in my 
usb keyboard and the problem still occurred. Sometimes, with bluetooth or usb 
keyboard, I would think the problem was gone and then it would start up again 
with nor reason I could find

Finally, I decided to switch to classic mail since mail almost always seemed to 
be where the problem would start and if I then quit mail and got voiceover 
running again the problem didn't seem to occur again until I opened mail. Since 
I have switched to classic mail I have had no further problem. It has only been 
a bout twenty-four hours but I switched at a time when the problem kept 
recurring. I know there are some disadvantages to changing to classic mail and 
perhaps I will eventually find something I can change in my mail settings that 
will solve this, or maybe an update will remedy it, but for now I am finding 
that changing to classic mail seems to have totally eliminated my problem.

-- 
Cheryl

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




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Re: Bluetooth Numeric Keypad

[The Believer]

   It does not help any when people make suggestions that were not 
asked for. In this case, I was asking about Bluetooth keypads for a good 
reason.


   I have both of Apple's keyboards, wired and wireless. At the moment, 
I am using the wired one with my Macbook so I have access to a keypad 
when I need it. I am short of desk space so its rather messy.


   Bluetooth devices cna be put anywhere or even on a shelf if its not 
needed. USB connections can be problematic what with all the cables and 
the need to move items around.


   Cheryl, that keypad looks nice. I had skimmed over it earlier today. 
Maybe I do not really need an equals key but if remapping can solve 
that, its a possibility.


   Interesting that Apple males a wired full size keyboard but not a 
wireless one.


From The Believer. . .
 . . . what if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 1/8/2015 6:23 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

Yes, I actually have the usb keyboard. It is a nice keyboard but (1) it is usb 
not bluetooth) an (2) it is significantly longer than a regular Apple keyboard 
and of course much longer than a numeric keypad. Especially if you are using a 
computer that already has a built-in keyboard, you may want something with a 
much smaller footprint rather than the full usb one. But most definitely, if 
the usb Apple keyboard does meet your needs, there's no particular need to buy 
a separate numeric keypad. I think the issue is that a lot of people are using 
a bluetooth keyboard, not just with iMacs and minis, but also with macbooks, 
and often don't want to carry around the longer usb keyboard and have to plug 
it into the computer on top of that. Apple used to put out a bluetooth keyboard 
that was full, including numeric keypad; one of mine died and the other was 
given to a friend but they never worked with iOS devices and I don't know for 
sure if they still work with newer Macs though they might

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disabling voiceover in vmware fusion

[deedra waters]

Is there a way to disable voiceover when i’m in my vm? i’ve tried setting up an 
activity to mute it but that doesn’t seem to be working. When voiceover is on, 
when i try to use the arrrows it doesn’t let me so i have to use command+f5 to 
turn it completely off which is just a pita. Any suggestions?


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Re: disabling voiceover in vmware fusion

[Kliph]

That is the only way to do it. If you mute it, it’s still active.  Turning it 
off completely works fine for me.
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> On Jan 8, 2015, at 11:28 PM, deedra waters  wrote:
> 
> Is there a way to disable voiceover when i’m in my vm? i’ve tried setting up 
> an activity to mute it but that doesn’t seem to be working. When voiceover is 
> on, when i try to use the arrrows it doesn’t let me so i have to use 
> command+f5 to turn it completely off which is just a pita. Any suggestions?
> 
> 
> deedra waters
> dee...@the-brannons.com
> 
> 
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Re: disabling voiceover in vmware fusion

[deedra waters]

as a thought it might be worth a way to put voiceover to sleep some how when 
you cycle through so if you command tab to vmware it goes to sleep/stops and if 
you cycle back to say mail then it wakes up and resumes working. Not 
complaining here just suggesting since i know of other screen readers that go 
to sleep if they’re needed to rather then staying awake if muted and 
interupting keystrokes.


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> On Jan 8, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Kliph  wrote:
> 
> That is the only way to do it. If you mute it, it’s still active.  Turning it 
> off completely works fine for me.
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> efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to contribute?  
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>> On Jan 8, 2015, at 11:28 PM, deedra waters > > wrote:
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>> Is there a way to disable voiceover when i’m in my vm? i’ve tried setting up 
>> an activity to mute it but that doesn’t seem to be working. When voiceover 
>> is on, when i try to use the arrrows it doesn’t let me so i have to use 
>> command+f5 to turn it completely off which is just a pita. Any suggestions?
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Re: disabling voiceover in vmware fusion

[Shawn Krasniuk]

That's a good suggestion. Adding to this, it would be nice if we could do that 
for other apps such as the RS Games Client. Perhaps it would be best to write 
to accessibil...@apple.com  and request this.

Shawn
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> On Jan 8, 2015, at 11:07 PM, deedra waters  wrote:
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> as a thought it might be worth a way to put voiceover to sleep some how when 
> you cycle through so if you command tab to vmware it goes to sleep/stops and 
> if you cycle back to say mail then it wakes up and resumes working. Not 
> complaining here just suggesting since i know of other screen readers that go 
> to sleep if they’re needed to rather then staying awake if muted and 
> interupting keystrokes.
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>> On Jan 8, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Kliph > > wrote:
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>> That is the only way to do it. If you mute it, it’s still active.  Turning 
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>>> On Jan 8, 2015, at 11:28 PM, deedra waters >> > wrote:
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>>> Is there a way to disable voiceover when i’m in my vm? i’ve tried setting 
>>> up an activity to mute it but that doesn’t seem to be working. When 
>>> voiceover is on, when i try to use the arrrows it doesn’t let me so i have 
>>> to use command+f5 to turn it completely off which is just a pita. Any 
>>> suggestions?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> deedra waters
>>> dee...@the-brannons.com 
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Re: Latest Pages and Numbers updates, anything broken?

[Gabriele Battaglia]

Hi, I did it.
But as it was late night, I didn't have time to explore Pages deeply.
So, at a first sight it seems ok, maybe better.

Gabriel.

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