mailboxes hidden in Mavericks

[Marissa Manzino]

Hi all,

I created a mailbox to archive all my work e-mails, but I cannot see it in the 
mailbox sidebar. Any ideas? It's like it's hidden from view or something. If 
you have any ideas please let me know.

Musically,
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Kudos to Apple Accessibility

[Jenine Stanley]

For those who don't think anything ever happens with Apple Accessibility, 
here's a happy story. 

I recently decided to stop complaining about a couple issues and take them to 
Apple Accessibility. 

One issue in IOS is the speaking of the word "selected" before some but not all 
picker items. This is maddening in long lists of items like times. 

They responded immediately asking for an example of an app in which this 
occurs. It's easy to find in the calendar app. I reported such and got a very 
nice note back stating that the issue has been documented and passed to the 
appropriate department. 

Yeah, I know, that sounds like lip service but I don't think so. I think it 
actually got done. 

I also received detailed instructions for how to report the problem of VO 
losing focus on some IOS apps. I thought at first it was just the Amazon app 
but the more I explored the issue, it seems to happen to a lesser degree in 
other apps as well. I'll have more time this weekend to try the instructions 
and send a report. 

Have I ever heard from Dell when reporting things? Microsoft? rarely and then 
it is a cnned response. Yay Apple.
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Vulnerability of running Windows on a Mac

[George Cassell]

If one were to run Windows on a MacBook Air, would that copy of Windows, and 
it's host computer, still be vulnerable to the viruses and other malware that 
currently infests the world of Windows computers, thus requiring all that 
system protection that doesn't seem to really work anyway?
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Using Finder to discover the contents of a CD or DVD

[Mike Busboom]

Hi everyone.

Is there a way on the Mac to insert a CD and not have it automatically launch?  
I need to explore the contents of several CDs and just using Finder would do 
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Many thanks.

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Re: Vulnerability of running Windows on a Mac

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Yes, of course! Windows is still Windows wherever it is! However, if you have 
good Windows protection it is not inevitable that you have viruses; you just 
have to be vigilant and keep up-to-date. Also remember that one can not afford 
to be unprotected on the Mac opperating system either.

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> it's host computer, still be vulnerable to the viruses and other malware that 
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> system protection that doesn't seem to really work anyway?
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Re: Using Finder to discover the contents of a CD or DVD

[Cheryl Homiak]

Yes, there is a pane in System Preferences that gives you options for what 
happens when you insert various types of cds and dvds. However, at least in 
Mavericks, unless you still have a built-in cd/dvd drive, that pane only 
appears when you attach an external cd/dvd player/burner, which I just 
discovered when trying to answer this question; I had just assumed that pane 
was still there. It appears to me that it isn't necessary to actually have 
anything in the external drive to make the pane appear but I don't know whether 
or not having a cd or dvd in the drive changes the options in the pane; I would 
think it doesn't. Of course, if you still hav a computer with a built-in drive, 
the pane will be there also. So set your preferences in this pane and then make 
sure in finder preferences you have the box checked for cds and dvds to show in 
finder and I think this should meet your need.

Hth.


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And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Jun 18, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Mike Busboom  wrote:

> Hi everyone.
> 
> Is there a way on the Mac to insert a CD and not have it automatically 
> launch?  I need to explore the contents of several CDs and just using Finder 
> would do great, provided I could do so without the CD or DVD in question 
> automatically beginning to play.
> 
> Many thanks.
> 
> Mike
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Re: Using Finder to discover the contents of a CD or DVD

[Mike Busboom]

Hi, Cheryl,

First of all, thank you for this information.  I'll follow your instructions.  

Do you know if there is any command, such as holding down a specific key while 
inserting a CD or DVD for just the occasional CD or DVD perusal?

Thanks so much.

Mike

On 18,Jun,2014, at 15:47, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> Yes, there is a pane in System Preferences that gives you options for what 
> happens when you insert various types of cds and dvds. However, at least in 
> Mavericks, unless you still have a built-in cd/dvd drive, that pane only 
> appears when you attach an external cd/dvd player/burner, which I just 
> discovered when trying to answer this question; I had just assumed that pane 
> was still there. It appears to me that it isn't necessary to actually have 
> anything in the external drive to make the pane appear but I don't know 
> whether or not having a cd or dvd in the drive changes the options in the 
> pane; I would think it doesn't. Of course, if you still hav a computer with a 
> built-in drive, the pane will be there also. So set your preferences in this 
> pane and then make sure in finder preferences you have the box checked for 
> cds and dvds to show in finder and I think this should meet your need.
> 
> Hth.
> 
> 
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> 
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
> thrown in the trash!
> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
> His joy for my despairing tears!
> And now, every day:
> "This I call to mind,
> and therefore I have hope:
> The steadfast love of the Lord
> never ceases;
> his mercies never come to an end;
> they are new every morning;
> great is your faithfulness."
> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 18, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Mike Busboom  wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone.
>> 
>> Is there a way on the Mac to insert a CD and not have it automatically 
>> launch?  I need to explore the contents of several CDs and just using Finder 
>> would do great, provided I could do so without the CD or DVD in question 
>> automatically beginning to play.
>> 
>> Many thanks.
>> 
>> Mike
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Re: Texting accessibly

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

AOL's AIM can also send text messages and is fairly accessible on iOS.

CB

On 6/16/14, 9:45 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote:

Try Textme.

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On 16/06/2014 13:59, Devin Prater wrote:

Hi app all.
I have gone through many applications for ios. I used text now and 
i-\#message. I am wondering if there is any messaging app, compatible 
with the ipod touch that can text USA numbers that is as accessible 
as apples messages app. I'd like to be automatically alerted to 
incoming messages and maybe knowing when someone has read my 
messages. I've used Google voice connect, but really didn't like it 
because it didn't use apples notification center due to privacy. 
Other than that I'd happily use my Google voice number, but Google 
voice connect couldn't be used to make calls, so that's why I use 
text now. But text now doesn't announce when a thread has unrest 
messages. Also, even though the current Fleksy I don't really like, I 
do wish it was in an app besides Google voice connect, using the 
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Re: Using Finder to discover the contents of a CD or DVD

[Cheryl Homiak]

You are very welcome! It sure scared me when I went into System Preferences and 
couldn't find that particular preference pane!

As far as I know there is no way to do this by holding a key down, etc. It 
actually doesn't take long, though, to go in and change your preferences though 
I realize it is slightly inconvenient.

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"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Jun 18, 2014, at 8:56 AM, Mike Busboom  wrote:

> Hi, Cheryl,
> 
> First of all, thank you for this information.  I'll follow your instructions. 
>  
> 
> Do you know if there is any command, such as holding down a specific key 
> while inserting a CD or DVD for just the occasional CD or DVD perusal?
> 
> Thanks so much.
> 
> Mike
> 
> On 18,Jun,2014, at 15:47, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, there is a pane in System Preferences that gives you options for what 
>> happens when you insert various types of cds and dvds. However, at least in 
>> Mavericks, unless you still have a built-in cd/dvd drive, that pane only 
>> appears when you attach an external cd/dvd player/burner, which I just 
>> discovered when trying to answer this question; I had just assumed that pane 
>> was still there. It appears to me that it isn't necessary to actually have 
>> anything in the external drive to make the pane appear but I don't know 
>> whether or not having a cd or dvd in the drive changes the options in the 
>> pane; I would think it doesn't. Of course, if you still hav a computer with 
>> a built-in drive, the pane will be there also. So set your preferences in 
>> this pane and then make sure in finder preferences you have the box checked 
>> for cds and dvds to show in finder and I think this should meet your need.
>> 
>> Hth.
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>> thrown in the trash!
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind,
>> and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>> never ceases;
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>> they are new every morning;
>> great is your faithfulness."
>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Mike Busboom  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone.
>>> 
>>> Is there a way on the Mac to insert a CD and not have it automatically 
>>> launch?  I need to explore the contents of several CDs and just using 
>>> Finder would do great, provided I could do so without the CD or DVD in 
>>> question automatically beginning to play.
>>> 
>>> Many thanks.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
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Good iPhone app for recording audio snippets

[Phil Halton]

I want to record short guitar riffs and progressions on the iPhone, and then be 
able to easily play them back - perhaps looping them if desired. Kind of like 
an audio scratchpad with looping capabilities. The built-in voice recorder app 
is not quite up to speed for my needs, but something like that app would work.

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Re: Good iPhone app for recording audio snippets

[Jessica D]

What about garage band? It can do this.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 18, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> I want to record short guitar riffs and progressions on the iPhone, and then 
> be able to easily play them back - perhaps looping them if desired. Kind of 
> like an audio scratchpad with looping capabilities. The built-in voice 
> recorder app is not quite up to speed for my needs, but something like that 
> app would work.
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Re: Texting accessibly

[Devin Prater]

Is aols texting feature free?

> On Jun 18, 2014, at 8:58, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> AOL's AIM can also send text messages and is fairly accessible on iOS.
> 
> CB
> 
>> On 6/16/14, 9:45 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote:
>> Try Textme.
>> 
>> Christopher Hallsworth
>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
>> www.hadley.edu
>> 
>>> On 16/06/2014 13:59, Devin Prater wrote:
>>> Hi app all.
>>> I have gone through many applications for ios. I used text now and 
>>> i-\#message. I am wondering if there is any messaging app, compatible with 
>>> the ipod touch that can text USA numbers that is as accessible as apples 
>>> messages app. I'd like to be automatically alerted to incoming messages and 
>>> maybe knowing when someone has read my messages. I've used Google voice 
>>> connect, but really didn't like it because it didn't use apples 
>>> notification center due to privacy. Other than that I'd happily use my 
>>> Google voice number, but Google voice connect couldn't be used to make 
>>> calls, so that's why I use text now. But text now doesn't announce when a 
>>> thread has unrest messages. Also, even though the current Fleksy I don't 
>>> really like, I do wish it was in an app besides Google voice connect, using 
>>> the slowly dying Google voice.
>>> 
>> 
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Re: Texting accessibly

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Yup. AIM is free and all that goes with it. You'll have to create a free 
account to use it of course. I think you start a new chat but for the 
account name of the other user you put in the US phone number.


CB

On 6/18/14, 10:16 AM, Devin Prater wrote:

Is aols texting feature free?


On Jun 18, 2014, at 8:58, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

AOL's AIM can also send text messages and is fairly accessible on iOS.

CB


On 6/16/14, 9:45 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote:
Try Textme.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu


On 16/06/2014 13:59, Devin Prater wrote:
Hi app all.
I have gone through many applications for ios. I used text now and i-\#message. 
I am wondering if there is any messaging app, compatible with the ipod touch 
that can text USA numbers that is as accessible as apples messages app. I'd 
like to be automatically alerted to incoming messages and maybe knowing when 
someone has read my messages. I've used Google voice connect, but really didn't 
like it because it didn't use apples notification center due to privacy. Other 
than that I'd happily use my Google voice number, but Google voice connect 
couldn't be used to make calls, so that's why I use text now. But text now 
doesn't announce when a thread has unrest messages. Also, even though the 
current Fleksy I don't really like, I do wish it was in an app besides Google 
voice connect, using the slowly dying Google voice.


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Re: Need help with VM Fusion and networking for Win 7

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

So what were you doing in Windows to test network connectivity?

CB

On 6/14/14, 6:05 PM, Bill Holton wrote:


Hi.

I created another VM on a second Mac with a second copy of Windows.  
Everything seemed to install correctly, but I have no networking in 
the VM.  The Devices menu shows that the network adapter is connected, 
and the NAT option is checked.


Networking works fine on my Mac Mini.  Does anyone have any 
suggestions where I should look next?


Thanks.

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Re: Vulnerability of running Windows on a Mac

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

More specifically, while a virtualized instance of Windows is just as 
suceptible to viruses and Windows running on a real box, how that 
overflows to your Mac depends on how much access to your Mac you give 
Windows. I don't give Windows direct access to my Mac's drive as usually 
being able to cut and paste between the two worlds does what I need. You 
can also set it up where you can copy files from the Mac to the PC and 
back. While PC viruses in files moved to your Mac won't effect your Mac, 
you might pass them along to another Windows user who will care. Also, 
while few voiceover users will care about Office for Mac because of its 
near total inaccessibility, any Word macro viruses are, by definition, 
cross-platform. So if you do use Word on the Mac you probably should 
have your files scanned just in case.


CB

On 6/18/14, 9:30 AM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
Yes, of course! Windows is still Windows wherever it is! However, if 
you have good Windows protection it is not inevitable that you have 
viruses; you just have to be vigilant and keep up-to-date. Also 
remember that one can not afford to be unprotected on the Mac 
opperating system either.


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I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
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His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)




On Jun 13, 2014, at 11:10 PM, George Cassell 
mailto:apollose...@earthlink.net>> wrote:


If one were to run Windows on a MacBook Air, would that copy of 
Windows, and it's host computer, still be vulnerable to the viruses 
and other malware that currently infests the world of Windows 
computers, thus requiring all that system protection that doesn't 
seem to really work anyway?

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Re: Good iPhone app for recording audio snippets

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

What about the app Jimmy Fallon used with Billy Joel on the Tonight Show 
called Loopy? Dunno if it's accessible though and it's $8.


http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/21/5532944/jimmy-fallon-billy-joel-sing-duet-with-ipad-app

http://loopyapp.com

CB

On 6/18/14, 10:08 AM, Jessica D wrote:

What about garage band? It can do this.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 18, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

I want to record short guitar riffs and progressions on the iPhone, and then be 
able to easily play them back - perhaps looping them if desired. Kind of like 
an audio scratchpad with looping capabilities. The built-in voice recorder app 
is not quite up to speed for my needs, but something like that app would work.

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RE: Vulnerability of running Windows on a Mac

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello, 

 

I am using Win 8 in bootcamp and treating this portion of my MBA as though I 
was running a stand-a-lone Windows machine. That said, I have installed Nod-32 
antivirus because of the nature of Windows having the potential of catching a 
virus. I have been there and done that, so I don’t want to bring this machine 
down or have to reformat it. JMO. 

 

Eileen 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:44 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Vulnerability of running Windows on a Mac

 

More specifically, while a virtualized instance of Windows is just as 
suceptible to viruses and Windows running on a real box, how that overflows to 
your Mac depends on how much access to your Mac you give Windows. I don't give 
Windows direct access to my Mac's drive as usually being able to cut and paste 
between the two worlds does what I need. You can also set it up where you can 
copy files from the Mac to the PC and back. While PC viruses in files moved to 
your Mac won't effect your Mac, you might pass them along to another Windows 
user who will care. Also, while few voiceover users will care about Office for 
Mac because of its near total inaccessibility, any Word macro viruses are, by 
definition, cross-platform. So if you do use Word on the Mac you probably 
should have your files scanned just in case. 

CB

On 6/18/14, 9:30 AM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

Yes, of course! Windows is still Windows wherever it is! However, if you have 
good Windows protection it is not inevitable that you have viruses; you just 
have to be vigilant and keep up-to-date. Also remember that one can not afford 
to be unprotected on the Mac opperating system either. 

 

-- 

Cheryl

 

I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.

I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper

thrown in the trash!

Then God gave me a new heart and life:

His joy for my despairing tears!

And now, every day:

"This I call to mind,

and therefore I have hope:

The steadfast love of the Lord

never ceases;

his mercies never come to an end;

they are new every morning;

great is your faithfulness."

(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)

 

 

 

 

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If one were to run Windows on a MacBook Air, would that copy of Windows, and 
it's host computer, still be vulnerable to the viruses and other malware that 
currently infests the world of Windows computers, thus requiring all that 
system protection that doesn't seem to really work anyway?

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Re: running Windows on a Mac

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Curious where the memory requirements info came from? I have a stock 
Dell Windows 7 box which uses 2.15GB with no apps running while my Mac 
Pro Mavericks box with no apps running takes 1.8GB. Maybe my own 
machines are somehow unusual so I'd be curious where you found out about 
Windows taking less memory. To me they seem pretty similar.


CB

On 6/14/14, 7:59 AM, Kevin Barry wrote:

Certainly.
Either way.
Windows actually requires less memory than does OS x.

At 09:54 PM 6/13/2014, you wrote:
I am trying to find out if a Mac Book Air would have enough memory to 
run windows either with boot camp or fusion? Thanks.


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Re: Texting accessibly

[Devin Prater]

I see. I have linked it with my Facebook account, and my Google account, so 
hopefully I can make use of it. Does it send the text with my email address, or 
a real number? 

> On Jun 18, 2014, at 9:24, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Yup. AIM is free and all that goes with it. You'll have to create a free 
> account to use it of course. I think you start a new chat but for the account 
> name of the other user you put in the US phone number.
> 
> CB
> 
>> On 6/18/14, 10:16 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
>> Is aols texting feature free?
>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 8:58, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> AOL's AIM can also send text messages and is fairly accessible on iOS.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
 On 6/16/14, 9:45 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote:
 Try Textme.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
> On 16/06/2014 13:59, Devin Prater wrote:
> Hi app all.
> I have gone through many applications for ios. I used text now and 
> i-\#message. I am wondering if there is any messaging app, compatible 
> with the ipod touch that can text USA numbers that is as accessible as 
> apples messages app. I'd like to be automatically alerted to incoming 
> messages and maybe knowing when someone has read my messages. I've used 
> Google voice connect, but really didn't like it because it didn't use 
> apples notification center due to privacy. Other than that I'd happily 
> use my Google voice number, but Google voice connect couldn't be used to 
> make calls, so that's why I use text now. But text now doesn't announce 
> when a thread has unrest messages. Also, even though the current Fleksy I 
> don't really like, I do wish it was in an app besides Google voice 
> connect, using the slowly dying Google voice.
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Re: VO won't shut up when downloading files if Downloads folder is open

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Hmm. I download files to my desktop so when I tried it I had a new file 
called "xyz.download dimmed Safari Download" and leaving focus on this 
file made no other announcements. So maybe its something specific about 
the downloads folder? I'm on Mavericks. What version of OSX are you running?


CB

On 6/16/14, 9:05 AM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
I wasn't specifically thinking about your level i.e.: medium, low, 
high, etc. Mine is on high but there are other adjustments. I was 
thinking about checking all the tabs: hints, announcements, text, etc. 
I don't think it has anything to do per se with this being an Air as 
my Air does not do that. I think it either has to be your verbosity 
settings or for some reason something is going on with the way vo is 
focussing and announcing that focussing. Certainly rebooting, changing 
permissions, checking your cursor tracking and related areas, would be 
a good troubleshooting step.



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I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)



On Jun 16, 2014, at 7:43 AM, Alex Hall > wrote:


My verbosity is medium, just as it was on my Mini. I’ve tried low, 
but it strips out a bit too much for my liking. Again, though, this 
never happened before with the same level set.
On Jun 16, 2014, at 6:30 AM, Anders Holmberg > wrote:



Hi!
I think this might be a verbosity problem.
I have my verbosity set to the lowest as i get frustrated with all 
info all of the time.

Sometimes it can be good but sometimes not.
/A
14 jun 2014 kl. 23:01 skrev Cheryl Homiak >:


Well, it is usual behavior if your downloads folder is open for you 
to hear this once as the new file is added. As for the constant 
repetition while downloading, I wonder if it could be something in 
your voiceover settings, perhaps in verbosity somewhere.



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I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)



On Jun 14, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Alex Hall > wrote:



Hi all,
The subject basically says it all. If I leave my Downloads folder 
open, and I start downloading a new file, VO constantly starts 
saying the name of whatever file was last focused on in Downloads. 
I said "starts saying" because it happens so often, once a second 
if not more, that speech never gets more than a word or two in 
before beginning again. This happens even if I'm not in Finder or 
Safari at the time. The strangest part is that this is on my 
Macbook Air; my Mini never once did this. Any ideas? Thanks.


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Re: Selecting Items to add to a playlist in the new iTunes

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

So far, the only thing you can do would be to use the VO selection method of 
VO-cmd-return on multiple items.  This though, would be extremely tedious if 
you had to use this method for large numbers of songs.  This sort of thing has 
happened before in iTunes and has been fixed in later releases.  It's just too 
bad that whatever developer(s) who work on iTunes keep breaking it in this 
manner.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 17, 2014, at 11:40 AM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:

> Hi group.
> I want to create a playlist for all my radio drama that I have.
> Most of them are in iTunes already.
> Now, in the old version, you could do shift downarrow and it would select the 
> songs you wanted.
> This still works, however voiceover doesn't announce that its selecting 
> anything.
> Is there a work around for this?
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: VO won't shut up when downloading files if Downloads folder is open

[Alex Hall]

Mavericks as well, on both machines. Sherill's suggestion of cursor tracking 
and other settings made me check, but all my cursors are set to follow each 
other as they are on the other machine. My mouse cursor is the only exception; 
VO ignores it.
On Jun 18, 2014, at 11:24 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

> Hmm. I download files to my desktop so when I tried it I had a new file 
> called "xyz.download dimmed Safari Download" and leaving focus on this file 
> made no other announcements. So maybe its something specific about the 
> downloads folder? I'm on Mavericks. What version of OSX are you running?
> 
> CB
> 
> On 6/16/14, 9:05 AM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
>> I wasn't specifically thinking about your level i.e.: medium, low, high, 
>> etc. Mine is on high but there are other adjustments. I was thinking about 
>> checking all the tabs: hints, announcements, text, etc. I don't think it has 
>> anything to do per se with this being an Air as my Air does not do that. I 
>> think it either has to be your verbosity settings or for some reason 
>> something is going on with the way vo is focussing and announcing that 
>> focussing. Certainly rebooting, changing permissions, checking your cursor 
>> tracking and related areas, would be a good troubleshooting step.
>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Cheryl 
>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>>> His joy for my despairing tears! 
>>> And now, every day:
>>> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
>>> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
>>> his mercies never come to an end;
>>> they are new every morning;
>>> great is your faithfulness."
>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 16, 2014, at 7:43 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> My verbosity is medium, just as it was on my Mini. I’ve tried low, but it 
>>> strips out a bit too much for my liking. Again, though, this never happened 
>>> before with the same level set.
>>> On Jun 16, 2014, at 6:30 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi!
 I think this might be a verbosity problem.
 I have my verbosity set to the lowest as i get frustrated with all info 
 all of the time.
 Sometimes it can be good but sometimes not.
 /A
 14 jun 2014 kl. 23:01 skrev Cheryl Homiak :
 
> Well, it is usual behavior if your downloads folder is open for you to 
> hear this once as the new file is added. As for the constant repetition 
> while downloading, I wonder if it could be something in your voiceover 
> settings, perhaps in verbosity somewhere. 
> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl 
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! 
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears! 
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>> they are new every morning;
>> great is your faithfulness."
>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 14, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> The subject basically says it all. If I leave my Downloads folder open, 
>> and I start downloading a new file, VO constantly starts saying the name 
>> of whatever file was last focused on in Downloads. I said "starts 
>> saying" because it happens so often, once a second if not more, that 
>> speech never gets more than a word or two in before beginning again. 
>> This happens even if I'm not in Finder or Safari at the time. The 
>> strangest part is that this is on my Macbook Air; my Mini never once did 
>> this. Any ideas? Thanks.
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Re: Kudos to Apple Accessibility

[Teresa Cochran]

Yes, I've felt comfortable enough with Apple Accessibility that I called and 
asked a curious question about editing Braille commands. The guy was interested 
enough that he had us do a screen-sharing session, because he didn't have 
access to a Braille display. We concluded that the only way to edit Braille 
commands was by using command-b first, but he offered to put in my suggestion 
for using the Braille display to edit commands as a feature request. I 
definitely wouldn't have felt comfortable initiating this with most other 
companies. This is the main reason I have Apple products.

Teresa

Winging its way from my iPod

> On Jun 18, 2014, at 5:46 AM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
> For those who don't think anything ever happens with Apple Accessibility, 
> here's a happy story. 
> 
> I recently decided to stop complaining about a couple issues and take them to 
> Apple Accessibility. 
> 
> One issue in IOS is the speaking of the word "selected" before some but not 
> all picker items. This is maddening in long lists of items like times. 
> 
> They responded immediately asking for an example of an app in which this 
> occurs. It's easy to find in the calendar app. I reported such and got a very 
> nice note back stating that the issue has been documented and passed to the 
> appropriate department. 
> 
> Yeah, I know, that sounds like lip service but I don't think so. I think it 
> actually got done. 
> 
> I also received detailed instructions for how to report the problem of VO 
> losing focus on some IOS apps. I thought at first it was just the Amazon app 
> but the more I explored the issue, it seems to happen to a lesser degree in 
> other apps as well. I'll have more time this weekend to try the instructions 
> and send a report. 
> 
> Have I ever heard from Dell when reporting things? Microsoft? rarely and then 
> it is a cnned response. Yay Apple.
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
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Re: Kudos to Apple Accessibility

[Littlefield, Tyler]

Hello:
How did you get in touch with apple accessibility? Was it via the 
accessibil...@apple.com email address? All of my bug reports there have 
gone unanswered.

On 6/18/2014 11:59 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

Yes, I've felt comfortable enough with Apple Accessibility that I called and 
asked a curious question about editing Braille commands. The guy was interested 
enough that he had us do a screen-sharing session, because he didn't have 
access to a Braille display. We concluded that the only way to edit Braille 
commands was by using command-b first, but he offered to put in my suggestion 
for using the Braille display to edit commands as a feature request. I 
definitely wouldn't have felt comfortable initiating this with most other 
companies. This is the main reason I have Apple products.

Teresa

Winging its way from my iPod


On Jun 18, 2014, at 5:46 AM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:

For those who don't think anything ever happens with Apple Accessibility, 
here's a happy story.

I recently decided to stop complaining about a couple issues and take them to 
Apple Accessibility.

One issue in IOS is the speaking of the word "selected" before some but not all 
picker items. This is maddening in long lists of items like times.

They responded immediately asking for an example of an app in which this 
occurs. It's easy to find in the calendar app. I reported such and got a very 
nice note back stating that the issue has been documented and passed to the 
appropriate department.

Yeah, I know, that sounds like lip service but I don't think so. I think it 
actually got done.

I also received detailed instructions for how to report the problem of VO 
losing focus on some IOS apps. I thought at first it was just the Amazon app 
but the more I explored the issue, it seems to happen to a lesser degree in 
other apps as well. I'll have more time this weekend to try the instructions 
and send a report.

Have I ever heard from Dell when reporting things? Microsoft? rarely and then 
it is a cnned response. Yay Apple.
Jenine Stanley
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Re: Kudos to Apple Accessibility

[Jenine Stanley]

Wow, yes, I did use the email address and had a response within 12 hours. Even 
when I just reported something I've always gotten a response, if not a personal 
one. These last two interactions were more specific and definitely personal. 
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



On Jun 18, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Littlefield, Tyler  wrote:

> Hello:
> How did you get in touch with apple accessibility? Was it via 
> theaccessibil...@apple.com email address? All of my bug reports there have 
> gone unanswered.
> On 6/18/2014 11:59 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> Yes, I've felt comfortable enough with Apple Accessibility that I called and 
>> asked a curious question about editing Braille commands. The guy was 
>> interested enough that he had us do a screen-sharing session, because he 
>> didn't have access to a Braille display. We concluded that the only way to 
>> edit Braille commands was by using command-b first, but he offered to put in 
>> my suggestion for using the Braille display to edit commands as a feature 
>> request. I definitely wouldn't have felt comfortable initiating this with 
>> most other companies. This is the main reason I have Apple products.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> Winging its way from my iPod
>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 5:46 AM, Jenine Stanley  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> For those who don't think anything ever happens with Apple Accessibility, 
>>> here's a happy story.
>>> 
>>> I recently decided to stop complaining about a couple issues and take them 
>>> to Apple Accessibility.
>>> 
>>> One issue in IOS is the speaking of the word "selected" before some but not 
>>> all picker items. This is maddening in long lists of items like times.
>>> 
>>> They responded immediately asking for an example of an app in which this 
>>> occurs. It's easy to find in the calendar app. I reported such and got a 
>>> very nice note back stating that the issue has been documented and passed 
>>> to the appropriate department.
>>> 
>>> Yeah, I know, that sounds like lip service but I don't think so. I think it 
>>> actually got done.
>>> 
>>> I also received detailed instructions for how to report the problem of VO 
>>> losing focus on some IOS apps. I thought at first it was just the Amazon 
>>> app but the more I explored the issue, it seems to happen to a lesser 
>>> degree in other apps as well. I'll have more time this weekend to try the 
>>> instructions and send a report.
>>> 
>>> Have I ever heard from Dell when reporting things? Microsoft? rarely and 
>>> then it is a cnned response. Yay Apple.
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Kudos to Apple Accessibility

[Teresa Cochran]

Tyler, maybe some messages found their way to the spam folder? Just a thought.

Teresa

Winging its way from my iPod

> On Jun 18, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
> Wow, yes, I did use the email address and had a response within 12 hours. 
> Even when I just reported something I’ve always gotten a response, if not a 
> personal one. These last two interactions were more specific and definitely 
> personal. 
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Littlefield, Tyler  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello:
>> How did you get in touch with apple accessibility? Was it via 
>> theaccessibil...@apple.com email address? All of my bug reports there have 
>> gone unanswered.
>>> On 6/18/2014 11:59 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> Yes, I've felt comfortable enough with Apple Accessibility that I called 
>>> and asked a curious question about editing Braille commands. The guy was 
>>> interested enough that he had us do a screen-sharing session, because he 
>>> didn't have access to a Braille display. We concluded that the only way to 
>>> edit Braille commands was by using command-b first, but he offered to put 
>>> in my suggestion for using the Braille display to edit commands as a 
>>> feature request. I definitely wouldn't have felt comfortable initiating 
>>> this with most other companies. This is the main reason I have Apple 
>>> products.
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> Winging its way from my iPod
>>> 
 On Jun 18, 2014, at 5:46 AM, Jenine Stanley  
 wrote:
 
 For those who don't think anything ever happens with Apple Accessibility, 
 here's a happy story.
 
 I recently decided to stop complaining about a couple issues and take them 
 to Apple Accessibility.
 
 One issue in IOS is the speaking of the word "selected" before some but 
 not all picker items. This is maddening in long lists of items like times.
 
 They responded immediately asking for an example of an app in which this 
 occurs. It's easy to find in the calendar app. I reported such and got a 
 very nice note back stating that the issue has been documented and passed 
 to the appropriate department.
 
 Yeah, I know, that sounds like lip service but I don't think so. I think 
 it actually got done.
 
 I also received detailed instructions for how to report the problem of VO 
 losing focus on some IOS apps. I thought at first it was just the Amazon 
 app but the more I explored the issue, it seems to happen to a lesser 
 degree in other apps as well. I'll have more time this weekend to try the 
 instructions and send a report.
 
 Have I ever heard from Dell when reporting things? Microsoft? rarely and 
 then it is a cnned response. Yay Apple.
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: Kudos to Apple Accessibility

[Littlefield, Tyler]

it's more than possible. This was also a while back, so perhaps things 
got better. I put in another email a bit ago when I heard of good 
success, so we'll see where it goes. I'll report success or failure on 
this thread just for another viewpoint.


Thanks,
On 6/18/2014 12:29 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
Tyler, maybe some messages found their way to the spam folder? Just a 
thought.


Teresa

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On Jun 18, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Jenine Stanley > wrote:


Wow, yes, I did use the email address and had a response within 12 
hours. Even when I just reported something I’ve always gotten a 
response, if not a personal one. These last two interactions were 
more specific and definitely personal.

Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com 



On Jun 18, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Littlefield, Tyler > wrote:



Hello:
How did you get in touch with apple accessibility? Was it via 
theaccessibil...@apple.com email 
address? All of my bug reports there have gone unanswered.

On 6/18/2014 11:59 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
Yes, I've felt comfortable enough with Apple Accessibility that I 
called and asked a curious question about editing Braille commands. 
The guy was interested enough that he had us do a screen-sharing 
session, because he didn't have access to a Braille display. We 
concluded that the only way to edit Braille commands was by using 
command-b first, but he offered to put in my suggestion for using 
the Braille display to edit commands as a feature request. I 
definitely wouldn't have felt comfortable initiating this with most 
other companies. This is the main reason I have Apple products.


Teresa

Winging its way from my iPod

On Jun 18, 2014, at 5:46 AM, Jenine Stanley 
mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>> wrote:


For those who don't think anything ever happens with Apple 
Accessibility, here's a happy story.


I recently decided to stop complaining about a couple issues and 
take them to Apple Accessibility.


One issue in IOS is the speaking of the word "selected" before 
some but not all picker items. This is maddening in long lists of 
items like times.


They responded immediately asking for an example of an app in 
which this occurs. It's easy to find in the calendar app. I 
reported such and got a very nice note back stating that the issue 
has been documented and passed to the appropriate department.


Yeah, I know, that sounds like lip service but I don't think so. I 
think it actually got done.


I also received detailed instructions for how to report the 
problem of VO losing focus on some IOS apps. I thought at first it 
was just the Amazon app but the more I explored the issue, it 
seems to happen to a lesser degree in other apps as well. I'll 
have more time this weekend to try the instructions and send a report.


Have I ever heard from Dell when reporting things? Microsoft? 
rarely and then it is a cnned response. Yay Apple.

Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com 



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command+o won't open folders on external drives anymore.

[Jessica Moss]

I've just noticed recently that for some weird reason, command+o won't open the 
folders on my external drive as well as my flash drive anymore, and have to 
expand the folders I want to open if I want to see anything in them, which can 
get annoying at times.  Has anyone else had this issue?

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Re: command+o won't open folders on external drives anymore.

[Teresa Cochran]

Which folder view are you using. With list view, you can go into the folder 
with command-down-arrow and back into the enclosing folder with 
command-up-arrow.

HtH,
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> On Jun 18, 2014, at 10:15 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
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> the folders on my external drive as well as my flash drive anymore, and have 
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Apple introduces new entry level 21.5 inch iMac, starts at $1,099 from Mac News Daily

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Apple today introduced a new 21.5-inch iMac starting at just $1,099, 
making the world’s leading all-in-one desktop even more affordable. 
Featuring a stunning ultra-thin design, brilliant display, Core i5 
processors and the world’s most advanced operating system, the new iMac 
is the perfect entry-level Mac® desktop.
The new 21.5-inch iMac features a 1.4 GHz dual-core Intel Core i5 
processor with Turbo Boost Speeds up to 2.7 GHz, Intel HD 5000 graphics, 
8GB of memory and a 500GB hard drive. All iMac models include next 
generation 802.11ac Wi-Fi, and two Thunderbolt ports and four USB 3.0 
ports for excellent expandability and support for high-performance 
peripherals.
iLife® and iWork® come free with every new Mac. iLife lets you edit your 
favorite videos with iMovie®, create new music or learn to play piano or 
guitar with GarageBand®, and organize, edit and share your best shots 
with iPhoto®. iWork productivity apps, Pages®, Numbers® and Keynote®, 
make it easy to create, edit and share stunning documents, spreadsheets 
and presentations. iWork for iCloud® beta lets you create your document 
on iPad®, edit it on your Mac and collaborate with friends, even if 
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Every Mac comes with OS X®, the world’s most advanced operating system, 
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technologies built into every Mac. Earlier this month, Apple announced 
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with a fresh, modern look, powerful new apps and amazing new continuity 
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than ever. The final version of OS X Yosemite will be available for free 
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Pricing & Availability
The new 21.5-inch iMac is available today through the Apple Online Store 
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Resellers. Starting at $1,099 (US), the new iMac features a 1.4 GHz 
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Pianopub problem?

[Jessica]

Hi
I just downloaded pianopub for the third or fourth time now. I am having a big 
problem. I cannot log into the app with my account.
I logged in on my iphone just to confirm I am entering the correct info when 
attempting to sign in.
my wifi also keeps disconnecting. I need to move my network to the top of the 
list but do not know how to do so with voiceover. Can anyone help me with 
either of these?
thanks,

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Re: command+o won't open folders on external drives anymore.

[David Taylor]

I've suddnely found that isn't working for me either. In list view, it always 
did, now I have to open a folder with right arrow.

Cheers
Dave

On 18 Jun 2014, at 19:08, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Which folder view are you using. With list view, you can go into the folder 
> with command-down-arrow and back into the enclosing folder with 
> command-up-arrow.
> 
> HtH,
> Teresa
> 
> Winging its way from my iPod
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>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 10:15 AM, Jessica Moss  wrote:
>> 
>> I've just noticed recently that for some weird reason, command+o won't open 
>> the folders on my external drive as well as my flash drive anymore, and have 
>> to expand the folders I want to open if I want to see anything in them, 
>> which can get annoying at times.  Has anyone else had this issue?
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Re: Pianopub problem?

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I'm having that same issue, have had this since about may.
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On Jun 18, 2014, at 3:47 PM, Jessica  wrote:

> Hi
> I just downloaded pianopub for the third or fourth time now. I am having a 
> big problem. I cannot log into the app with my account.
> I logged in on my iphone just to confirm I am entering the correct info when 
> attempting to sign in.
> my wifi also keeps disconnecting. I need to move my network to the top of the 
> list but do not know how to do so with voiceover. Can anyone help me with 
> either of these?
> thanks,
> 
> Jessica
> jldai...@gmail.com
> 
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tutorials for VoiceOver

[Juliette]

Hi all,
I don't actually have my Mac yet, but I was wondering if there were any 
other resources I should consider, besides the $20 textbook by Janet 
Ingber that I just purchased from National Braille Press. I have also 
read some of the Getting Started with VoiceOver and Mavericks that is 
featured on the System Access Mobile Network, to try and familiarize 
myself with VoiceOver. Are there any other resources I can sign up for? 
I do know about the Mac Masters series through Fedora Outlier, but 
since I don't have the Mac yet, I was looking for any other books I 
could be reading up on beforehand. Thanks so much.

Juliette

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Re: Pianopub problem?

[Jessica D]

I contacted the developer, they never answered me. What should I do?

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>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 3:47 PM, Jessica  wrote:
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>> Hi
>> I just downloaded pianopub for the third or fourth time now. I am having a 
>> big problem. I cannot log into the app with my account.
>> I logged in on my iphone just to confirm I am entering the correct info when 
>> attempting to sign in.
>> my wifi also keeps disconnecting. I need to move my network to the top of 
>> the list but do not know how to do so with voiceover. Can anyone help me 
>> with either of these?
>> thanks,
>> 
>> Jessica
>> jldai...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: Pianopub problem?

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>From what I saw on google, its something to do with PianoBar. They never got 
>back to me either.
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On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Jessica D  wrote:

> I contacted the developer, they never answered me. What should I do?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
> 
>> I'm having that same issue, have had this since about may.
>> Matt Dierckens
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>> available now. Take advantage of our 10% discount for the month of  June.
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>> 
>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 3:47 PM, Jessica  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi
>>> I just downloaded pianopub for the third or fourth time now. I am having a 
>>> big problem. I cannot log into the app with my account.
>>> I logged in on my iphone just to confirm I am entering the correct info 
>>> when attempting to sign in.
>>> my wifi also keeps disconnecting. I need to move my network to the top of 
>>> the list but do not know how to do so with voiceover. Can anyone help me 
>>> with either of these?
>>> thanks,
>>> 
>>> Jessica
>>> jldai...@gmail.com
>>> 
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Re: tutorials for VoiceOver

[isaac]

Yes there are podcasts and guides on http://www.applevis.com 
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> Hi all,
> I don't actually have my Mac yet, but I was wondering if there were any other 
> resources I should consider, besides the $20 textbook by Janet Ingber that I 
> just purchased from National Braille Press. I have also read some of the 
> Getting Started with VoiceOver and Mavericks that is featured on the System 
> Access Mobile Network, to try and familiarize myself with VoiceOver. Are 
> there any other resources I can sign up for? I do know about the Mac Masters 
> series through Fedora Outlier, but since I don't have the Mac yet, I was 
> looking for any other books I could be reading up on beforehand. Thanks so 
> much.
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Re: tutorials for VoiceOver

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Hello.
If you're interested, I am offering a intro to the macintosh course in July.

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On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Juliette  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I don't actually have my Mac yet, but I was wondering if there were any other 
> resources I should consider, besides the $20 textbook by Janet Ingber that I 
> just purchased from National Braille Press. I have also read some of the 
> Getting Started with VoiceOver and Mavericks that is featured on the System 
> Access Mobile Network, to try and familiarize myself with VoiceOver. Are 
> there any other resources I can sign up for? I do know about the Mac Masters 
> series through Fedora Outlier, but since I don't have the Mac yet, I was 
> looking for any other books I could be reading up on beforehand. Thanks so 
> much.
> Juliette
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Re: Pianopub problem?

[Jessica D]

So, what do I do?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:46 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
> 
> From what I saw on google, its something to do with PianoBar. They never got 
> back to me either.
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>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Jessica D  wrote:
>> 
>> I contacted the developer, they never answered me. What should I do?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Matt Dierckens  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm having that same issue, have had this since about may.
>>> Matt Dierckens
>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>> Blind Access Training
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>>> 
 On Jun 18, 2014, at 3:47 PM, Jessica  wrote:
 
 Hi
 I just downloaded pianopub for the third or fourth time now. I am having a 
 big problem. I cannot log into the app with my account.
 I logged in on my iphone just to confirm I am entering the correct info 
 when attempting to sign in.
 my wifi also keeps disconnecting. I need to move my network to the top of 
 the list but do not know how to do so with voiceover. Can anyone help me 
 with either of these?
 thanks,
 
 Jessica
 jldai...@gmail.com
 
 
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Re: Pianopub problem?

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You'll have to use the regular site for now or use the app on the phone
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On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Jessica D  wrote:

> So, what do I do?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:46 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
> 
>> From what I saw on google, its something to do with PianoBar. They never got 
>> back to me either.
>> Matt Dierckens
>> Macintosh Trainer
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>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Jessica D  wrote:
>> 
>>> I contacted the developer, they never answered me. What should I do?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Matt Dierckens  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 I'm having that same issue, have had this since about may.
 Matt Dierckens
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 Blind Access Training
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 On Jun 18, 2014, at 3:47 PM, Jessica  wrote:
 
> Hi
> I just downloaded pianopub for the third or fourth time now. I am having 
> a big problem. I cannot log into the app with my account.
> I logged in on my iphone just to confirm I am entering the correct info 
> when attempting to sign in.
> my wifi also keeps disconnecting. I need to move my network to the top of 
> the list but do not know how to do so with voiceover. Can anyone help me 
> with either of these?
> thanks,
> 
> Jessica
> jldai...@gmail.com
> 
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Re: Pianopub problem?

[Jessica D]

Sadly, the pandora app is losing accessibility as well.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:53 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
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> You'll have to use the regular site for now or use the app on the phone
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>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Jessica D  wrote:
>> 
>> So, what do I do?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:46 PM, Matt Dierckens  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> From what I saw on google, its something to do with PianoBar. They never 
>>> got back to me either.
>>> Matt Dierckens
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Jessica D  wrote:
 
 I contacted the developer, they never answered me. What should I do?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Matt Dierckens  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm having that same issue, have had this since about may.
> Matt Dierckens
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> 
>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 3:47 PM, Jessica  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> I just downloaded pianopub for the third or fourth time now. I am having 
>> a big problem. I cannot log into the app with my account.
>> I logged in on my iphone just to confirm I am entering the correct info 
>> when attempting to sign in.
>> my wifi also keeps disconnecting. I need to move my network to the top 
>> of the list but do not know how to do so with voiceover. Can anyone help 
>> me with either of these?
>> thanks,
>> 
>> Jessica
>> jldai...@gmail.com
>> 
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Re: Pianopub problem?

[Matt Dierckens]

Ah, that's too bad. I can only use pandora through a private VPN

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On Jun 18, 2014, at 5:00 PM, Jessica D  wrote:

> Sadly, the pandora app is losing accessibility as well.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:53 PM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
> 
>> You'll have to use the regular site for now or use the app on the phone
>> Matt Dierckens
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>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Jessica D  wrote:
>> 
>>> So, what do I do?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:46 PM, Matt Dierckens  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 From what I saw on google, its something to do with PianoBar. They never 
 got back to me either.
 Matt Dierckens
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
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 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4
 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com
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 On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Jessica D  wrote:
 
> I contacted the developer, they never answered me. What should I do?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Matt Dierckens  
> wrote:
> 
>> I'm having that same issue, have had this since about may.
>> Matt Dierckens
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>> 
>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 3:47 PM, Jessica  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi
>>> I just downloaded pianopub for the third or fourth time now. I am 
>>> having a big problem. I cannot log into the app with my account.
>>> I logged in on my iphone just to confirm I am entering the correct info 
>>> when attempting to sign in.
>>> my wifi also keeps disconnecting. I need to move my network to the top 
>>> of the list but do not know how to do so with voiceover. Can anyone 
>>> help me with either of these?
>>> thanks,
>>> 
>>> Jessica
>>> jldai...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
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over drive books

[May McDonald Homuth]

Hi there everyone.

I have a program called Macsome Audiobook 
Converter that works great for audible books, but from what I can tell it 
doesn't work for over drive books. That is unless I'm overlooking something.

Does anyone know of a program that can convert these books like Macsome 
Audiobook 
Converter can do for audible books?

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Re: tutorials for VoiceOver

[Robert C]

   This is a great reference to bookmark. Has all the VO commands and 
gestures plus other good info.




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On 6/18/2014 1:34 PM, Juliette wrote:

Hi all,
I don't actually have my Mac yet, but I was wondering if there were any
other resources I should consider, besides the $20 textbook by Janet
Ingber that I just purchased from National Braille Press. I have also
read some of the Getting Started with VoiceOver and Mavericks that is
featured on the System Access Mobile Network, to try and familiarize
myself with VoiceOver. Are there any other resources I can sign up for?
I do know about the Mac Masters series through Fedora Outlier, but since
I don't have the Mac yet, I was looking for any other books I could be
reading up on beforehand. Thanks so much.
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Re: over drive books

[Teresa Cochran]

I don't know which converter to use, but most Overdrive books are wma Windows 
Media files, so you'll need one that will convert from that format. Also, there 
is some sort of DRM protection on them that makes them time-limited.

HtH,
Teresa



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> On Jun 18, 2014, at 2:04 PM, May McDonald Homuth  wrote:
> 
> Hi there everyone.
> 
> I have a program called Macsome Audiobook 
> Converter that works great for audible books, but from what I can tell it 
> doesn't work for over drive books. That is unless I'm overlooking something.
> 
> Does anyone know of a program that can convert these books like Macsome 
> Audiobook 
> Converter can do for audible books?
> 
> May, still waiting to hear from GDB *slow pokes* 
> www.canadianlynx.ca
> m...@canadianlynx.ca
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Re: command+o won't open folders on external drives anymore.

[Teresa Cochran]

I made a mistake when posting the command for opening folders. It's 
option-down-arrow and option-up-arrow. To open a single file, it's 
command-down-arrow.

HtH,
Teresa

Winging its way from my iPod

> On Jun 18, 2014, at 12:51 PM, David Taylor  wrote:
> 
> I've suddnely found that isn't working for me either. In list view, it always 
> did, now I have to open a folder with right arrow.
> 
> Cheers
> Dave
> 
>> On 18 Jun 2014, at 19:08, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>> Which folder view are you using. With list view, you can go into the folder 
>> with command-down-arrow and back into the enclosing folder with 
>> command-up-arrow.
>> 
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> Winging its way from my iPod
>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 10:15 AM, Jessica Moss  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've just noticed recently that for some weird reason, command+o won't open 
>>> the folders on my external drive as well as my flash drive anymore, and 
>>> have to expand the folders I want to open if I want to see anything in 
>>> them, which can get annoying at times.  Has anyone else had this issue?
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Re: over drive books

[May McDonald Homuth]

Oh, right I forgot about the darn time limit part. I'm assuming if you burn the 
books to a cd if I can get it in mp3 format or something that it kills that too?

May, still waiting to hear from GDB *slow pokes* 
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On Jun 18, 2014, at 5:32 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> I don't know which converter to use, but most Overdrive books are wma Windows 
> Media files, so you'll need one that will convert from that format. Also, 
> there is some sort of DRM protection on them that makes them time-limited.
> 
> HtH,
> Teresa
> 
> 
> 
> Winging its way from my iPod
> 
>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 2:04 PM, May McDonald Homuth  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there everyone.
>> 
>> I have a program called Macsome Audiobook 
>> Converter that works great for audible books, but from what I can tell it 
>> doesn't work for over drive books. That is unless I'm overlooking something.
>> 
>> Does anyone know of a program that can convert these books like Macsome 
>> Audiobook 
>> Converter can do for audible books?
>> 
>> May, still waiting to hear from GDB *slow pokes* 
>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>> m...@canadianlynx.ca
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Re: command+o won't open folders on external drives anymore.

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Works fine for me.  I tried it in Icon view and List view with cmd-o and it 
opened normally.  Column few wouldn't open with cmd-o, but that's normal I 
believe.  In Finder Prefs, I checked and unchecked the box for opening Finder 
windows in Tabs with no difference.  Do you have QuickNav on?  I do not so that 
may be the case.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 18, 2014, at 1:51 PM, David Taylor  wrote:

> I've suddnely found that isn't working for me either. In list view, it always 
> did, now I have to open a folder with right arrow.
> 
> Cheers
> Dave
> 
> On 18 Jun 2014, at 19:08, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
>> Which folder view are you using. With list view, you can go into the folder 
>> with command-down-arrow and back into the enclosing folder with 
>> command-up-arrow.
>> 
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> Winging its way from my iPod
>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 10:15 AM, Jessica Moss  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've just noticed recently that for some weird reason, command+o won't open 
>>> the folders on my external drive as well as my flash drive anymore, and 
>>> have to expand the folders I want to open if I want to see anything in 
>>> them, which can get annoying at times.  Has anyone else had this issue?
>>> 
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Re: over drive books

[Teresa Cochran]

As I recall, you can burn them onto a CD, but that makes it an audio CD, or 
should I say *many CDS, because audio CDS take up much more room than mp3 ones.

HtH,
Teresa 

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> On Jun 18, 2014, at 2:41 PM, May McDonald Homuth  wrote:
> 
> Oh, right I forgot about the darn time limit part. I'm assuming if you burn 
> the books to a cd if I can get it in mp3 format or something that it kills 
> that too?
> 
> May, still waiting to hear from GDB *slow pokes* 
> www.canadianlynx.ca
> m...@canadianlynx.ca
> 
>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 5:32 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't know which converter to use, but most Overdrive books are wma 
>> Windows Media files, so you'll need one that will convert from that format. 
>> Also, there is some sort of DRM protection on them that makes them 
>> time-limited.
>> 
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Winging its way from my iPod
>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 2:04 PM, May McDonald Homuth  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there everyone.
>>> 
>>> I have a program called Macsome Audiobook 
>>> Converter that works great for audible books, but from what I can tell it 
>>> doesn't work for over drive books. That is unless I'm overlooking something.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know of a program that can convert these books like Macsome 
>>> Audiobook 
>>> Converter can do for audible books?
>>> 
>>> May, still waiting to hear from GDB *slow pokes* 
>>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>>> m...@canadianlynx.ca
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Re: command+o won't open folders on external drives anymore.

[Jessica Moss]

I don't use quicknav, and find it confusing as ever, and always use listview 
sense I've always found it easiest, so not sure what the issue is.
On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Works fine for me.  I tried it in Icon view and List view with cmd-o and it 
> opened normally.  Column few wouldn't open with cmd-o, but that's normal I 
> believe.  In Finder Prefs, I checked and unchecked the box for opening Finder 
> windows in Tabs with no difference.  Do you have QuickNav on?  I do not so 
> that may be the case.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jun 18, 2014, at 1:51 PM, David Taylor  wrote:
> 
>> I've suddnely found that isn't working for me either. In list view, it 
>> always did, now I have to open a folder with right arrow.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Dave
>> 
>> On 18 Jun 2014, at 19:08, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>>> Which folder view are you using. With list view, you can go into the folder 
>>> with command-down-arrow and back into the enclosing folder with 
>>> command-up-arrow.
>>> 
>>> HtH,
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> Winging its way from my iPod
>>> 
 On Jun 18, 2014, at 10:15 AM, Jessica Moss  
 wrote:
 
 I've just noticed recently that for some weird reason, command+o won't 
 open the folders on my external drive as well as my flash drive anymore, 
 and have to expand the folders I want to open if I want to see anything in 
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Comparing VO Keystrokes in OS X and iOS?

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, all,

If my poor old late 2009 Mac Mini doesn't have a fried logic board, I'll 
replace the hard drive so it can limp along for another year. If it's destined 
for the scrap heap, I'm going to get an iPad. I'll probably use a keyboard with 
it. I use a Braille display and the virtual keyboard with my iPod 5th gen and 
iOS currently. I'm wondering if a lot of the basic VO functions work the same 
with the same keystrokes, such as opening apps, text selection, etc.?

Thanks,
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Re: over drive books

[May McDonald Homuth]

*grumbles*

Darn overdrive books. They should be as easy to work with as audible, lol. 
Thanks, I'll definitely see what I can figure out.

May, still waiting to hear from GDB *slow pokes* 
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On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> As I recall, you can burn them onto a CD, but that makes it an audio CD, or 
> should I say *many CDS, because audio CDS take up much more room than mp3 
> ones.
> 
> HtH,
> Teresa 
> 
> Winging its way from my iPod
> 
>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 2:41 PM, May McDonald Homuth  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, right I forgot about the darn time limit part. I'm assuming if you burn 
>> the books to a cd if I can get it in mp3 format or something that it kills 
>> that too?
>> 
>> May, still waiting to hear from GDB *slow pokes* 
>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>> m...@canadianlynx.ca
>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 5:32 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't know which converter to use, but most Overdrive books are wma 
>>> Windows Media files, so you'll need one that will convert from that format. 
>>> Also, there is some sort of DRM protection on them that makes them 
>>> time-limited.
>>> 
>>> HtH,
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Winging its way from my iPod
>>> 
 On Jun 18, 2014, at 2:04 PM, May McDonald Homuth  
 wrote:
 
 Hi there everyone.
 
 I have a program called Macsome Audiobook 
 Converter that works great for audible books, but from what I can tell it 
 doesn't work for over drive books. That is unless I'm overlooking 
 something.
 
 Does anyone know of a program that can convert these books like Macsome 
 Audiobook 
 Converter can do for audible books?
 
 May, still waiting to hear from GDB *slow pokes* 
 www.canadianlynx.ca
 m...@canadianlynx.ca
 
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Re: over drive books

[Teresa Cochran]

Yes, I know what you mean. Even Audible would be an imfrovement. It would be 
great if they could coordinate with the public library systems.

Teresa

Winging its way from my iPod

> On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:03 PM, May McDonald Homuth  wrote:
> 
> *grumbles*
> 
> Darn overdrive books. They should be as easy to work with as audible, lol. 
> Thanks, I'll definitely see what I can figure out.
> 
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> m...@canadianlynx.ca
> 
>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>> As I recall, you can burn them onto a CD, but that makes it an audio CD, or 
>> should I say *many CDS, because audio CDS take up much more room than mp3 
>> ones.
>> 
>> HtH,
>> Teresa 
>> 
>> Winging its way from my iPod
>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 2:41 PM, May McDonald Homuth  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh, right I forgot about the darn time limit part. I'm assuming if you burn 
>>> the books to a cd if I can get it in mp3 format or something that it kills 
>>> that too?
>>> 
>>> May, still waiting to hear from GDB *slow pokes* 
>>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>>> m...@canadianlynx.ca
>>> 
 On Jun 18, 2014, at 5:32 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
 
 I don't know which converter to use, but most Overdrive books are wma 
 Windows Media files, so you'll need one that will convert from that 
 format. Also, there is some sort of DRM protection on them that makes them 
 time-limited.
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 
 
 
 Winging its way from my iPod
 
> On Jun 18, 2014, at 2:04 PM, May McDonald Homuth  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi there everyone.
> 
> I have a program called Macsome Audiobook 
> Converter that works great for audible books, but from what I can tell it 
> doesn't work for over drive books. That is unless I'm overlooking 
> something.
> 
> Does anyone know of a program that can convert these books like Macsome 
> Audiobook 
> Converter can do for audible books?
> 
> May, still waiting to hear from GDB *slow pokes* 
> www.canadianlynx.ca
> m...@canadianlynx.ca
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Re: Pages text selection bug workaround

[Nicholas Parsons]

Selecting up with option-shift-up arrow doesn't work for me either. Couldn't 
get VO-return to work either. It worked for the first couple of lines and then 
I lost the selection. Haven't tried extensively with the VO-return method 
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Re: Pages text selection bug workaround

[Nicholas Parsons]

Actually, I stand corrected. Option-shift-up arrow is working for me, though it 
sounds like it doesn't work. I get the same sound of losing the selection, but 
when I press command-c and then paste somewhere else, the copy and paste works.

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Re: Kudos to Apple Accessibility

[Devin Prater]

Hi, 
I am just flat we have the level of structure in accessibility that we have in 
ios. I love the support, although I don't like that I have to make a phone call 
just to set up a rescue email address to reset my account questions. But over 
all, I love apple customer support and the knowledge that apple accessibility 
has about VoiceOver and how it all works. I've never once had to contact them, 
but the storied I've heard have been nothing but great in telling of apples 
commitment to accessibility. And while I still have problems with activating 
again my book share account with mobile safari, I still love VoiceOver. 

> On Jun 18, 2014, at 11:35, "Littlefield, Tyler"  wrote:
> 
> it's more than possible. This was also a while back, so perhaps things got 
> better. I put in another email a bit ago when I heard of good success, so 
> we'll see where it goes. I'll report success or failure on this thread just 
> for another viewpoint.
> 
> Thanks,
>> On 6/18/2014 12:29 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> Tyler, maybe some messages found their way to the spam folder? Just a 
>> thought.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> Winging its way from my iPod
>> 
>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
>> 
>>> Wow, yes, I did use the email address and had a response within 12 hours. 
>>> Even when I just reported something I’ve always gotten a response, if not a 
>>> personal one. These last two interactions were more specific and definitely 
>>> personal. 
>>> Jenine Stanley
>>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 18, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Littlefield, Tyler  
 wrote:
 
 Hello:
 How did you get in touch with apple accessibility? Was it via 
 theaccessibil...@apple.com email address? All of my bug reports there have 
 gone unanswered.
> On 6/18/2014 11:59 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> Yes, I've felt comfortable enough with Apple Accessibility that I called 
> and asked a curious question about editing Braille commands. The guy was 
> interested enough that he had us do a screen-sharing session, because he 
> didn't have access to a Braille display. We concluded that the only way 
> to edit Braille commands was by using command-b first, but he offered to 
> put in my suggestion for using the Braille display to edit commands as a 
> feature request. I definitely wouldn't have felt comfortable initiating 
> this with most other companies. This is the main reason I have Apple 
> products.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> Winging its way from my iPod
> 
>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 5:46 AM, Jenine Stanley  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> For those who don't think anything ever happens with Apple 
>> Accessibility, here's a happy story.
>> 
>> I recently decided to stop complaining about a couple issues and take 
>> them to Apple Accessibility.
>> 
>> One issue in IOS is the speaking of the word "selected" before some but 
>> not all picker items. This is maddening in long lists of items like 
>> times.
>> 
>> They responded immediately asking for an example of an app in which this 
>> occurs. It's easy to find in the calendar app. I reported such and got a 
>> very nice note back stating that the issue has been documented and 
>> passed to the appropriate department.
>> 
>> Yeah, I know, that sounds like lip service but I don't think so. I think 
>> it actually got done.
>> 
>> I also received detailed instructions for how to report the problem of 
>> VO losing focus on some IOS apps. I thought at first it was just the 
>> Amazon app but the more I explored the issue, it seems to happen to a 
>> lesser degree in other apps as well. I'll have more time this weekend to 
>> try the instructions and send a report.
>> 
>> Have I ever heard from Dell when reporting things? Microsoft? rarely and 
>> then it is a cnned response. Yay Apple.
>> Jenine Stanley
>> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: Comparing VO Keystrokes in OS X and iOS?

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Many do, and the non-VO keystrokes for navigating and manipulating text are 
identical. Basic navigation (vo-left/right/space) and reading (vo-a/w/c) are 
the same, but the iOS platform lacks many advanced keystrokes. For instance, 
hotspots/webstpots, vi-key lock, focus/cursor/window information, etc.
On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Hi, all,
> 
> If my poor old late 2009 Mac Mini doesn't have a fried logic board, I'll 
> replace the hard drive so it can limp along for another year. If it's 
> destined for the scrap heap, I'm going to get an iPad. I'll probably use a 
> keyboard with it. I use a Braille display and the virtual keyboard with my 
> iPod 5th gen and iOS currently. I'm wondering if a lot of the basic VO 
> functions work the same with the same keystrokes, such as opening apps, text 
> selection, etc.?
> 
> Thanks,
> Teresa
> 
> Winging its way from my iPod
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Re: Comparing VO Keystrokes in OS X and iOS?

[Teresa Cochran]

Thanks, Alex. My thought is that the touch-screen feedback will for the most 
part make up for the lack of window information. Between the touch-screen, 
Braille display, and keyboard, it seems like I'd be comfortable with the amount 
of feedback I would get.

Thanks,
Teresa


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> On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Many do, and the non-VO keystrokes for navigating and manipulating text are 
> identical. Basic navigation (vo-left/right/space) and reading (vo-a/w/c) are 
> the same, but the iOS platform lacks many advanced keystrokes. For instance, 
> hotspots/webstpots, vi-key lock, focus/cursor/window information, etc.
>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, all,
>> 
>> If my poor old late 2009 Mac Mini doesn't have a fried logic board, I'll 
>> replace the hard drive so it can limp along for another year. If it's 
>> destined for the scrap heap, I'm going to get an iPad. I'll probably use a 
>> keyboard with it. I use a Braille display and the virtual keyboard with my 
>> iPod 5th gen and iOS currently. I'm wondering if a lot of the basic VO 
>> functions work the same with the same keystrokes, such as opening apps, text 
>> selection, etc.?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> Winging its way from my iPod
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Re: Comparing VO Keystrokes in OS X and iOS?

[Ryan Mann]

A lot of the IOS key strokes are similar.  For example, you can hit Left and 
Right Arrow together to turn Quick Nav on and Off.  You can hit Left and Up 
Arrow together to switch between rotor settings then Up/Down Arrow to move to 
the next or previous rotor item. One thing you can't do on IOS is hit 
Command+Tab to switch  between open applications. If you are in an edit 
box, you can hit Option+Shift+Arrow key to select text just like on Mac OS.
 
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> On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
> Hi, all,
> 
> If my poor old late 2009 Mac Mini doesn't have a fried logic board, I'll 
> replace the hard drive so it can limp along for another year. If it's 
> destined for the scrap heap, I'm going to get an iPad. I'll probably use a 
> keyboard with it. I use a Braille display and the virtual keyboard with my 
> iPod 5th gen and iOS currently. I'm wondering if a lot of the basic VO 
> functions work the same with the same keystrokes, such as opening apps, text 
> selection, etc.?
> 
> Thanks,
> Teresa
> 
> Winging its way from my iPod
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How to remove write-protection from my USB-stick or flash-drive, whatever they call them these days

[Helena Fehr]

Hi, all!
I've got a 32 gigabyte flash-drive I'm tyring to use on my Mac, it's one of 
those Fat32 format ones, so I cna use it on my windows and on my Mac computers, 
but I keep getting an error that it's write protected, and that I should remove 
the write protection from teh flash-drive before I can use it again. I've 
googled it, and found oodles of stuff to do it on windows, but the only way I 
could find to do it wan't accessible with my screenreader. Can anyone tell me 
if there is a way to do it on my Mac?
And no, I've heard that some flash-drives have a switch to protect and 
unprotect them; my flash-drive is not one of those.
Thanks!
You can email me offline or on Mac Visionarries, though emailing me personally 
will help more, otherwise I may not get your responses.



God Bless!!!
Helena

May the Lord bless you and protect you; may the Lord's face radiate with joy 
because of you; may He be gracious to you, show you His favour, and give you 
His peace (Numbers 6:24-26).
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Re: Comparing VO Keystrokes in OS X and iOS?

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One consideration is that, aside from battery life and a few iPad-only apps, 
the iPad offers no significant advantages (that I can think of) over the iPod. 
At the least, they are identical in terms of VO keystrokes, so hook a keyboard 
to the iPod and see what you think. I believe you said you have an iPod - if 
not, ignore me. 

No, command-tab won't work, but go-h is your home button; press h twice while 
holding down the vo keys and you are in the App Switcher. It is kind of similar 
to the Application Chooser on the Mac. Certainly it is far less convenient, but 
the option is there.

I like having a full computer for apps the iOS platform can't run (Xcode, some 
nice Youtube apps, etc) but those aren't a concern for you. However, someone 
mentioned external drives, and that's a great point. Also, iOS lacks 
commanders, so no assigning frequently used actions or even ApleScripts to 
gestures or keystrokes. Overall, because of the shortcut key support in apps 
Not necessarily in VO) I find the Mac or a Windows machine more efficient to 
use. That's just me though.

Finally, the new Macbook Airs, and even the Pros from the brief times I've felt 
them, have very little in the way of vents or other holes. They use solid state 
drives, so have no moving internal parts except for some amazingly quiet fans 
you really can't access (the Airs seem to have no fans, but I could be wrong). 
Debris, then, is really not as much of a concern, and of course they make a 
myriad of cases for all these devices.
On Jun 18, 2014, at 9:44 PM, Ryan Mann  wrote:

> A lot of the IOS key strokes are similar.  For example, you can hit Left and 
> Right Arrow together to turn Quick Nav on and Off.  You can hit Left and Up 
> Arrow together to switch between rotor settings then Up/Down Arrow to move to 
> the next or previous rotor item. One thing you can't do on IOS is hit 
> Command+Tab to switchbetween open applications. If you are in an edit 
> box, you can hit Option+Shift+Arrow key to select text just like on Mac OS.
> 
> Ryan
> Follow me on Twitter @progressivecat.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, all,
>> 
>> If my poor old late 2009 Mac Mini doesn't have a fried logic board, I'll 
>> replace the hard drive so it can limp along for another year. If it's 
>> destined for the scrap heap, I'm going to get an iPad. I'll probably use a 
>> keyboard with it. I use a Braille display and the virtual keyboard with my 
>> iPod 5th gen and iOS currently. I'm wondering if a lot of the basic VO 
>> functions work the same with the same keystrokes, such as opening apps, text 
>> selection, etc.?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> Winging its way from my iPod
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Re: Comparing VO Keystrokes in OS X and iOS?

[Teresa Cochran]

Hmmm, thanks, Alex, that's an excellent suggestion.

Teresa

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> On Jun 18, 2014, at 7:03 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> One consideration is that, aside from battery life and a few iPad-only apps, 
> the iPad offers no significant advantages (that I can think of) over the 
> iPod. At the least, they are identical in terms of VO keystrokes, so hook a 
> keyboard to the iPod and see what you think. I believe you said you have an 
> iPod - if not, ignore me. 
> 
> No, command-tab won't work, but go-h is your home button; press h twice while 
> holding down the vo keys and you are in the App Switcher. It is kind of 
> similar to the Application Chooser on the Mac. Certainly it is far less 
> convenient, but the option is there.
> 
> I like having a full computer for apps the iOS platform can't run (Xcode, 
> some nice Youtube apps, etc) but those aren't a concern for you. However, 
> someone mentioned external drives, and that's a great point. Also, iOS lacks 
> commanders, so no assigning frequently used actions or even ApleScripts to 
> gestures or keystrokes. Overall, because of the shortcut key support in apps 
> Not necessarily in VO) I find the Mac or a Windows machine more efficient to 
> use. That's just me though.
> 
> Finally, the new Macbook Airs, and even the Pros from the brief times I've 
> felt them, have very little in the way of vents or other holes. They use 
> solid state drives, so have no moving internal parts except for some 
> amazingly quiet fans you really can't access (the Airs seem to have no fans, 
> but I could be wrong). Debris, then, is really not as much of a concern, and 
> of course they make a myriad of cases for all these devices.
>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 9:44 PM, Ryan Mann  wrote:
>> 
>> A lot of the IOS key strokes are similar.  For example, you can hit Left and 
>> Right Arrow together to turn Quick Nav on and Off.  You can hit Left and Up 
>> Arrow together to switch between rotor settings then Up/Down Arrow to move 
>> to the next or previous rotor item. One thing you can't do on IOS is hit 
>> Command+Tab to switch   between open applications. If you are in an edit 
>> box, you can hit Option+Shift+Arrow key to select text just like on Mac OS.
>> 
>> Ryan
>> Follow me on Twitter @progressivecat.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, all,
>>> 
>>> If my poor old late 2009 Mac Mini doesn't have a fried logic board, I'll 
>>> replace the hard drive so it can limp along for another year. If it's 
>>> destined for the scrap heap, I'm going to get an iPad. I'll probably use a 
>>> keyboard with it. I use a Braille display and the virtual keyboard with my 
>>> iPod 5th gen and iOS currently. I'm wondering if a lot of the basic VO 
>>> functions work the same with the same keystrokes, such as opening apps, 
>>> text selection, etc.?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> Winging its way from my iPod
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super duper

[wayne17a]

Hi list I have been using super duper for a while with no trouble entill
today when I have a error message when creating a clone that I have done on
the same external drive so what can the list sugest thanks in advance

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Re: command+o won't open folders on external drives anymore.

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

What view are they using? Column view has this behavior. 
Best wishes,

Jonathan



On Jun 18, 2014, at 1:15 PM, Jessica Moss  wrote:

> I've just noticed recently that for some weird reason, command+o won't open 
> the folders on my external drive as well as my flash drive anymore, and have 
> to expand the folders I want to open if I want to see anything in them, which 
> can get annoying at times.  Has anyone else had this issue?
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