Re: how to get vo to stop saying an anoying phrase?

[Kliphton -------]

That did the trick!  Thanks bunches, cause that inbeded really anoyed me
Kliphton

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On May 30, 2014, at 5:42 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> This one is kind of frustrating either way.  The setting you need to adjust 
> is in the Verbosity pane in the Text tab.  If you have VO set to speak the 
> word for Links and attachments, then the "Embedded" is announced.  So, 
> modifying that setting to "Do Nothing" will stop the announcement of 
> "Embedded" but you'll also not know if something is a link and such when on a 
> web-page.  Setting it to "Tone" will stop it from saying "embedded" as well, 
> but you'll hear some clicking sounds instead.  The best one I've found is 
> setting it to "Change Pitch", thus when links and such are spoken, the pitch 
> will drop down a bit to that sexy deep voiced guy, or some manly sounding 
> girl, when links and attachments are encountered.  These appear to be your 
> choices.  Pick your preference.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 30, 2014, at 6:30 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
>> I don't know of any way to do this. I think it's announcing the text 
>> contained in an HtML message, but not sure.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "The golden age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete graham
>> 
>> On May 30, 2014, at 1:22 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>>> I want to know  too please.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
 On 30 May 2014, at 09:18 am, Kliphton ---  wrote:
 
 Okay, every since mavericks,, when   in a group or thread of messages, 
 voice over says "inbeded"  I have been  all l threw the verbosity, 
 settings, and announcements of voice over butcan't seem to get this to 
 stop.  It only happens when I am in a  conversation, and go to the next 
 message, and before reading the message, it says "inbeded"How canI 
 stop voice over from saying this?
 
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Extreme iTunes Frustration Continued: Update

[Christine Grassman]

I want to thank all of you who are trying to assist with your suggestions. 
However:

1. I did have music turned off in iTunes and app store.

2. I understand how to use the grid; before going into column browser, the 
album grid was not going past a certain point, no matter what I did. 


3. I did change to column browser, and do see the different listings, but do 
not see where to check and uncheck artists, genres, albums,  or particular 
songs from a particular artist or album.  I am only seeing "check" or "uncheck" 
when songs are selected, which was always the case, and which, as started this 
whole problem, does not appear to make a difference.
Going out of my mind with this wasted space on my iPhone, and having to skip, 
skip, skip, when listening to music because of the currently unwanted 
selections. 
 . . . 
Kimba, how did you delete all music from your phone easily and then start over? 
I'm thinking this is my next try.
Christine

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how to get vo to stop saying an anoying phrase?

[Kliphton -------]

Okay, every since mavericks,, when   in a group or thread of messages, 
voice over says "inbeded"  I have been  all l threw the verbosity, settings, 
and announcements of voice over butcan't seem to get this to stop.  It only 
happens when I am in a  conversation, and go to the next message, and before 
reading the message, it says "inbeded"How canI stop voice over 
from saying this?

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Opening mail attachments with Mavericks

[Nancy Badger]

Hello,
I apologize because I know this has been covered in the list before. I am a 
latecomer to Mavericks and I need to know how to open mail attachments. What I 
have done in the past: vo shift plus m then push open in and then pushed 
TextEdit is not working. Please help!
Thank you very much!

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
UT Chattanooga
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

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Re: iTunes cannot import CDs

[Kevin Shaw]

hi Kristeen,

Set iTunes and Finder to do nothing and try manually importing by VO-Shift-M in 
the track list and choosing Create AAC Version. If you're still getting 3k file 
names, something's up with your iTunes configuration. A little extra work, but 
this way you can spot any problems.

Kevin

On 2014-06-01, at 7:59 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:

> When I put a CD in my Mac Mini, it appears in Finder and iTunes. I have 
> iTunes set to import and eject. No matter what CD I try, it finishes 
> importing them and it ejects them. THe problem is, all it has imported is the 
> title of each song on the CD. They are all about 3 KB in size and have no 
> audio. They are in the iTunes library, but are useless. I've tried to do them 
> as iTunes Plus and as MP3 files. I've used the AAc encoder and the MPEG 
> encoder. Does nayone know why this is happening?
> 
> Kristeen
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Re: Opening mail attachments with Mavericks

[Eugenia Firth]

Nancy, have you used command y to look at attachments? I usually save mine out 
instead of just looking at them, but I have used command y whenever Ij want to 
look and not save. I did this in Mountain Lion as well. Command y is a 
Macintosh command and not a VoiceOver command.  

Regards, 
Gigi 

On Jun 2, 2014, at 8:35 AM, Nancy Badger  wrote:

> Hello,
> I apologize because I know this has been covered in the list before. I am a 
> latecomer to Mavericks and I need to know how to open mail attachments. What 
> I have done in the past: vo shift plus m then push open in and then pushed 
> TextEdit is not working. Please help!
> Thank you very much!
> 
> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
> UT Chattanooga
> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
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Re: space bar on a macbook pro using voice over

[Phil Halton]

this may sound strange, but I had the same problem when I first got my MBA. It 
turned out that I was having trouble differentiating the space bar from the 
command key - they both are smooth and  featureless keys right next to each 
other.
I made a long strip of braille tape with letter l's spaced a few characters 
apart, just to make a bumped surface, and place the long strip of L's on the 
spacebar. Now I always know I'm pressing spacebar and not the adjacent command 
key because of the textured feel of the spacebar.
I Told you it would sound strange.!

On May 30, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Brent Harbolt  wrote:

> Hi all. I just got a new MacBook pro a couple of months ago. it seems that 
> sometimes when I am doing VO plus space bar it doesn't always register my 
> press. Sometimes I have to do it a couple of times before it registers. I am 
> wondering if anyone else has this problem or not. I am trying to figure out 
> if my space bar has a problem and I need to take my MacBook to the apple 
> store while it is still under warranty. Any feedback would be great. Thanks.
> Brent Harbolt
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Re: space bar on a macbook pro using voice over

[Brent Harbolt]

Thank you for the feedback. Sometimes for me it takes three or four presses. I 
took it to the Apple Store yesterday but of course all of their diagnostics 
check it out is fine. So maybe this is just a glitch in voice over



Blessings,
  Brent
Sent from my iPhone 5

> On Jun 1, 2014, at 11:27 PM, "Tristan"  wrote:
> 
> I’ve consistently had this problem under Mavericks on my MacBook Air, if that 
> reassures you any. Going into key help I can press it repeatedly fine, but  
> some buttons don’t take it the first press.
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 12:10 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: space bar on a macbook pro using voice over
>  
> That was a random issue in Mountain Lion, I believe. I haven't noticed it at 
> all in Mavericks, but then I rarely use vo-space. Most times, with buttons in 
> dialogs or web forms, you can press space by itself. Links, default buttons, 
> and menu items can be activated with enter.
> On May 30, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Brent Harbolt  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all. I just got a new MacBook pro a couple of months ago. it seems that 
> sometimes when I am doing VO plus space bar it doesn't always register my 
> press. Sometimes I have to do it a couple of times before it registers. I am 
> wondering if anyone else has this problem or not. I am trying to figure out 
> if my space bar has a problem and I need to take my MacBook to the apple 
> store while it is still under warranty. Any feedback would be great. Thanks.
> Brent Harbolt
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Re: space bar on a macbook pro using voice over

[Alex Hall]

As I said yesterday, vo-space is almost never required. Try using space or 
enter instead, and see if that doesn't help to mitigate the problem.
On Jun 2, 2014, at 8:59 AM, Brent Harbolt  wrote:

> Thank you for the feedback. Sometimes for me it takes three or four presses. 
> I took it to the Apple Store yesterday but of course all of their diagnostics 
> check it out is fine. So maybe this is just a glitch in voice over
> 
> 
> 
> Blessings,
>   Brent
> Sent from my iPhone 5
> 
> On Jun 1, 2014, at 11:27 PM, "Tristan"  wrote:
> 
>> I've consistently had this problem under Mavericks on my MacBook Air, if 
>> that reassures you any. Going into key help I can press it repeatedly fine, 
>> but  some buttons don't take it the first press.
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 12:10 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: space bar on a macbook pro using voice over
>>  
>> That was a random issue in Mountain Lion, I believe. I haven't noticed it at 
>> all in Mavericks, but then I rarely use vo-space. Most times, with buttons 
>> in dialogs or web forms, you can press space by itself. Links, default 
>> buttons, and menu items can be activated with enter.
>> On May 30, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Brent Harbolt  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all. I just got a new MacBook pro a couple of months ago. it seems that 
>> sometimes when I am doing VO plus space bar it doesn't always register my 
>> press. Sometimes I have to do it a couple of times before it registers. I am 
>> wondering if anyone else has this problem or not. I am trying to figure out 
>> if my space bar has a problem and I need to take my MacBook to the apple 
>> store while it is still under warranty. Any feedback would be great. Thanks.
>> Brent Harbolt
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Re: Extreme iTunes Frustration Continued: Update

[Barry Hadder]

Sounds like you nee to go into iPhone in your iTunes library.  You can find it 
in the sidebar, or as a popup depending on how you have iTunes set up.
Then, choose the music radio button and uncheck anything you don't want sinked. 
 This will remove the items from your iPhone.

I haven't followed this thread vary closely, so sorry if you already know about 
this.  It didn't appear to me from your latest posts that you've done this.


On Jun 2, 2014, at 3:45 AM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

I want to thank all of you who are trying to assist with your suggestions. 
However:

1. I did have music turned off in iTunes and app store.

2. I understand how to use the grid; before going into column browser, the 
album grid was not going past a certain point, no matter what I did. 


3. I did change to column browser, and do see the different listings, but do 
not see where to check and uncheck artists, genres, albums,  or particular 
songs from a particular artist or album.  I am only seeing "check" or "uncheck" 
when songs are selected, which was always the case, and which, as started this 
whole problem, does not appear to make a difference.
Going out of my mind with this wasted space on my iPhone, and having to skip, 
skip, skip, when listening to music because of the currently unwanted 
selections. 
. . . 
Kimba, how did you delete all music from your phone easily and then start over? 
I'm thinking this is my next try.
Christine

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Re: Extreme iTunes Frustration Continued: Update

[Christine Grassman]

I did. It hasn't. It used to work, but is no longer working. 

On Jun 2, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Barry Hadder  wrote:

> Sounds like you nee to go into iPhone in your iTunes library.  You can find 
> it in the sidebar, or as a popup depending on how you have iTunes set up.
> Then, choose the music radio button and uncheck anything you don't want 
> sinked.  This will remove the items from your iPhone.
> 
> I haven't followed this thread vary closely, so sorry if you already know 
> about this.  It didn't appear to me from your latest posts that you've done 
> this.
> 
> 
> On Jun 2, 2014, at 3:45 AM, Christine Grassman  
> wrote:
> 
> I want to thank all of you who are trying to assist with your suggestions. 
> However:
> 
> 1. I did have music turned off in iTunes and app store.
> 
> 2. I understand how to use the grid; before going into column browser, the 
> album grid was not going past a certain point, no matter what I did. 
> 
> 
> 3. I did change to column browser, and do see the different listings, but do 
> not see where to check and uncheck artists, genres, albums,  or particular 
> songs from a particular artist or album.  I am only seeing "check" or 
> "uncheck" when songs are selected, which was always the case, and which, as 
> started this whole problem, does not appear to make a difference.
> Going out of my mind with this wasted space on my iPhone, and having to skip, 
> skip, skip, when listening to music because of the currently unwanted 
> selections. 
> . . . 
> Kimba, how did you delete all music from your phone easily and then start 
> over? I'm thinking this is my next try.
> Christine
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Re: space bar on a macbook pro using voice over

[Brent Harbolt]

Ok will try that. Thanks.

Brent Harbolt
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  Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 9:15 AM
  Subject: Re: space bar on a macbook pro using voice over


  As I said yesterday, vo-space is almost never required. Try using space or 
enter instead, and see if that doesn't help to mitigate the problem.

  On Jun 2, 2014, at 8:59 AM, Brent Harbolt  wrote:


Thank you for the feedback. Sometimes for me it takes three or four 
presses. I took it to the Apple Store yesterday but of course all of their 
diagnostics check it out is fine. So maybe this is just a glitch in voice over






Blessings,
  Brent
Sent from my iPhone 5

On Jun 1, 2014, at 11:27 PM, "Tristan"  wrote:


  I've consistently had this problem under Mavericks on my MacBook Air, if 
that reassures you any. Going into key help I can press it repeatedly fine, but 
 some buttons don't take it the first press.



  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
  Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 12:10 AM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: space bar on a macbook pro using voice over



  That was a random issue in Mountain Lion, I believe. I haven't noticed it 
at all in Mavericks, but then I rarely use vo-space. Most times, with buttons 
in dialogs or web forms, you can press space by itself. Links, default buttons, 
and menu items can be activated with enter.

  On May 30, 2014, at 2:38 PM, Brent Harbolt  wrote:





Hi all. I just got a new MacBook pro a couple of months ago. it seems 
that sometimes when I am doing VO plus space bar it doesn't always register my 
press. Sometimes I have to do it a couple of times before it registers. I am 
wondering if anyone else has this problem or not. I am trying to figure out if 
my space bar has a problem and I need to take my MacBook to the apple store 
while it is still under warranty. Any feedback would be great. Thanks.

Brent Harbolt



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Re: Opening mail attachments with Mavericks

[isaac]

To open a mail attachments  interact with the attachment and then press vo 
space bar to open the menu. 
When the menu comes up then choose save attachments.isaac
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 Skype gold_wildcat 

On Jun 2, 2014, at 8:35 AM, Nancy Badger  wrote:

> Hello,
> I apologize because I know this has been covered in the list before. I am a 
> latecomer to Mavericks and I need to know how to open mail attachments. What 
> I have done in the past: vo shift plus m then push open in and then pushed 
> TextEdit is not working. Please help!
> Thank you very much!
> 
> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
> UT Chattanooga
> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
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Re: Opening mail attachments with Mavericks

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I've also noticed that this method is not consistent, it should work, but 
doesn't always.  What I've resorted to doing is pressing VO-shift-m on the 
attachment, then saving it to my Desktop and going from there.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 2, 2014, at 7:35 AM, Nancy Badger  wrote:

> Hello,
> I apologize because I know this has been covered in the list before. I am a 
> latecomer to Mavericks and I need to know how to open mail attachments. What 
> I have done in the past: vo shift plus m then push open in and then pushed 
> TextEdit is not working. Please help!
> Thank you very much!
> 
> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
> UT Chattanooga
> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
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recalcitrant Apple keyboard

[Jenine Stanley]

I have the Apple bluetooth keyboard and though I know usually when the 
batteries are going, it seems to often just be recalcitrant about keystrokes or 
commands. Today I have to exit Mail and come back in before it would register 
that I was hitting the delete key or enter key. 

Often in my Twitter client, Night Owl, keyboard commands will be totally 
ignored for many presses of the key until finally something clicks. I do love 
the feel and size of the Apple keyboard and thus have not tried a full size 
regular keyboard to know if these things are endemic. 

I'll probably try the commands on the MBP keyboard next,as that brilliant idea 
just popped into my head but does anyone else have this issue with the apple 
bluetooth keyboard? 
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Re: Extreme iTunes Frustration Continued: Update

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

To delete all music from your iPhone, make sure iTunes Match is turned off on 
the iPhone, then in iTunes on your Mac, make sure that "Sync Music" is not 
checked in the Music pane.  Apply your changes and all music should be removed. 
 Sometimes, my favourite word in computer-land creeps up and "should" factors 
in, so, you need to confirm things on your iPhone.  That is, go into the Music 
app, in the Songs pane and make sure that all have been removed.  You usually 
can swipe up and delete any songs that were not properly deleted from the first 
process.  Then you can go ahead and try setting things up the way you want them 
in iTunes on your Mac.  Once you re-apply the changes, everything "should" be 
fine.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 2, 2014, at 2:45 AM, Christine Grassman  wrote:

> I want to thank all of you who are trying to assist with your suggestions. 
> However:
> 
> 1. I did have music turned off in iTunes and app store.
> 
> 2. I understand how to use the grid; before going into column browser, the 
> album grid was not going past a certain point, no matter what I did. 
> 
> 
> 3. I did change to column browser, and do see the different listings, but do 
> not see where to check and uncheck artists, genres, albums,  or particular 
> songs from a particular artist or album.  I am only seeing "check" or 
> "uncheck" when songs are selected, which was always the case, and which, as 
> started this whole problem, does not appear to make a difference.
> Going out of my mind with this wasted space on my iPhone, and having to skip, 
> skip, skip, when listening to music because of the currently unwanted 
> selections. 
> . . . 
> Kimba, how did you delete all music from your phone easily and then start 
> over? I'm thinking this is my next try.
> Christine
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Re: Opening mail attachments with Mavericks

[Ray Foret Jr]

The thing of it is, when I get an e-mail with an attachment, I cannot get 
access to the attachment exept by opening the file menu and clicking on "save 
attachment".  Then I save it.  seriously, that's the only way I found that 
works for me under Mavricks.  I use the so-called normal view.  any suggestions 
for settings I might consider adjusting?


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Jun 2, 2014, at 9:50 AM, isaac  wrote:

> To open a mail attachments  interact with the attachment and then press vo 
> space bar to open the menu. 
> When the menu comes up then choose save attachments.isaac
> isaac.heb...@gmail.com
> Skype gold_wildcat 
> 
> On Jun 2, 2014, at 8:35 AM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> I apologize because I know this has been covered in the list before. I am a 
>> latecomer to Mavericks and I need to know how to open mail attachments. What 
>> I have done in the past: vo shift plus m then push open in and then pushed 
>> TextEdit is not working. Please help!
>> Thank you very much!
>> 
>> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
>> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
>> UT Chattanooga
>> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
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Re: Opening mail attachments with Mavericks

[Alex Hall]

That's how I've always done it. No searching the message for the in-line 
attachment, you just use cmd-y to preview it and File > Save Attachments to 
save. I set up a shortcut key so I can save attachments with one keystroke, 
making it even easier.
On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> The thing of it is, when I get an e-mail with an attachment, I cannot get 
> access to the attachment exept by opening the file menu and clicking on "save 
> attachment".  Then I save it.  seriously, that's the only way I found that 
> works for me under Mavricks.  I use the so-called normal view.  any 
> suggestions for settings I might consider adjusting?
> 
> 
> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Jun 2, 2014, at 9:50 AM, isaac  wrote:
> 
>> To open a mail attachments  interact with the attachment and then press vo 
>> space bar to open the menu. 
>> When the menu comes up then choose save attachments.isaac
>> isaac.heb...@gmail.com
>> Skype gold_wildcat 
>> 
>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 8:35 AM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I apologize because I know this has been covered in the list before. I am a 
>>> latecomer to Mavericks and I need to know how to open mail attachments. 
>>> What I have done in the past: vo shift plus m then push open in and then 
>>> pushed TextEdit is not working. Please help!
>>> Thank you very much!
>>> 
>>> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
>>> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
>>> UT Chattanooga
>>> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
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Re: Opening mail attachments with Mavericks

[Daniela Rubio]

Hello!
What workflow do you use to create the shortcut? Did you create an automated 
service?
If you could share it, it would be great!
Best

Daniela Rubio T
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El 02/06/2014, a las 18:09, Alex Hall  escribió:

> That's how I've always done it. No searching the message for the in-line 
> attachment, you just use cmd-y to preview it and File > Save Attachments to 
> save. I set up a shortcut key so I can save attachments with one keystroke, 
> making it even easier.
> On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
>> The thing of it is, when I get an e-mail with an attachment, I cannot get 
>> access to the attachment exept by opening the file menu and clicking on 
>> "save attachment".  Then I save it.  seriously, that's the only way I found 
>> that works for me under Mavricks.  I use the so-called normal view.  any 
>> suggestions for settings I might consider adjusting?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 9:50 AM, isaac  wrote:
>> 
>>> To open a mail attachments  interact with the attachment and then press vo 
>>> space bar to open the menu. 
>>> When the menu comes up then choose save attachments.isaac
>>> isaac.heb...@gmail.com
>>> Skype gold_wildcat 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 8:35 AM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello,
 I apologize because I know this has been covered in the list before. I am 
 a latecomer to Mavericks and I need to know how to open mail attachments. 
 What I have done in the past: vo shift plus m then push open in and then 
 pushed TextEdit is not working. Please help!
 Thank you very much!
 
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WWDC Keynote at 10:00 AM Pacific, Live Stream Link

[Teresa Cochran]

http://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2014/

Teresa

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Re: Opening mail attachments with Mavericks

[Alex Hall]

Nothing so complex, you can set it in System Preferences > Keyboard > Shortcuts 
> Application Shortcuts. I wrote a guide on this process on applevis.com, but I 
don't have the link at the moment.
On Jun 2, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Daniela Rubio  wrote:

> Hello!
> What workflow do you use to create the shortcut? Did you create an automated 
> service?
> If you could share it, it would be great!
> Best
> 
> Daniela Rubio T
> iPhone: +34662328507
> 
> 
> 
> 
> El 02/06/2014, a las 18:09, Alex Hall  escribió:
> 
>> That's how I've always done it. No searching the message for the in-line 
>> attachment, you just use cmd-y to preview it and File > Save Attachments to 
>> save. I set up a shortcut key so I can save attachments with one keystroke, 
>> making it even easier.
>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>>> The thing of it is, when I get an e-mail with an attachment, I cannot get 
>>> access to the attachment exept by opening the file menu and clicking on 
>>> "save attachment".  Then I save it.  seriously, that's the only way I found 
>>> that works for me under Mavricks.  I use the so-called normal view.  any 
>>> suggestions for settings I might consider adjusting?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in!
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>> 
>>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 9:50 AM, isaac  wrote:
>>> 
 To open a mail attachments  interact with the attachment and then press vo 
 space bar to open the menu. 
 When the menu comes up then choose save attachments.isaac
 isaac.heb...@gmail.com
 Skype gold_wildcat 
 
 On Jun 2, 2014, at 8:35 AM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
 
> Hello,
> I apologize because I know this has been covered in the list before. I am 
> a latecomer to Mavericks and I need to know how to open mail attachments. 
> What I have done in the past: vo shift plus m then push open in and then 
> pushed TextEdit is not working. Please help!
> Thank you very much!
> 
> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
> UT Chattanooga
> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling 
> errors.
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Re: WWDC Keynote at 10:00 AM Pacific, Live Stream Link

[Jessica D]

Can I use the Podcasts app to view it?

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Getting VO to speak at log in, where did the option

[Matt Dierckens]

Hey all, where did the option to tell voiceover to speak at log on go in system 
prefs? I can't find it. Thanks.
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Just testing to make sure this works. Gmail was giving me erros.

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Re: WWDC Keynote at 10:00 AM Pacific, Live Stream Link

[Teresa Cochran]

You can download the free WWDC app.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wwdc/id640199958?mt=8

There used to be an Apple Keynotes podcast. I'm not sure if that still exists.

HtH,
Teresa

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Re: Getting VO to speak at log in, where did the option

[Teresa Cochran]

It's in Users and Groups, "users, groups and login options" list. Interact with 
that and go all the way down to "login options. Stop interacting and the use 
Voiceover checkbox is in that dialog.

htH,
teresa.

Slow down; you'll get there faster.

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> Hey all, where did the option to tell voiceover to speak at log on go in 
> system prefs? I can't find it. Thanks.
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Re: Getting VO to speak at log in, where did the option

[isaac]

It is still in system preferences.
Just go to system preferences. 
Go to users and groups. 
Next go to click the lock to make changes and type in you're password. 
Next after entering the password and pressing enter to unlock the options to 
enable auto login and to start voiceover at log on. Now you are going to vo 
right arrow until you see users groups and log in options and then  you will 
now interact with the current user.  Next vo right arrow to log in options  
stop interacting with them. 
Next vo right arrow until you see the check box that says  use voiceover in the 
log in window and then check it.

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Re: WWDC Keynote at 10:00 AM Pacific, Live Stream Link

[Jessica]

i am subscribed to the podcast. the event has not shown up yet though.

Sent from my iPad

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> 
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> 
> HtH,
> Teresa
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Re: WWDC Keynote at 10:00 AM Pacific, Live Stream Link

[Alex Hall]

Just open this link in Safari:
http://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2014/
On Jun 2, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Jessica  wrote:

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> 
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>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
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>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wwdc/id640199958?mt=8
>> 
>> There used to be an Apple Keynotes podcast. I'm not sure if that still 
>> exists.
>> 
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>> 
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>> dark to read."--Groucho Marx
>> 
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Re: WWDC Keynote at 10:00 AM Pacific, Live Stream Link

[Jane]

Here's the strean:  http://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2014/


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> i am subscribed to the podcast. the event has not shown up yet though.
> 
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>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
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>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wwdc/id640199958?mt=8
>> 
>> There used to be an Apple Keynotes podcast. I'm not sure if that still 
>> exists.
>> 
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too 
>> dark to read."--Groucho Marx
>> 
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Re: Opening mail attachments with Mavericks

[Nancy Badger]

Thanks everyone. I ended up interacting with the attachment and then using the 
vo shift menu. Using command why for some reason did not work for me. But the 
other way did so thank you very much
Nancy

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Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

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> That's how I've always done it. No searching the message for the in-line 
> attachment, you just use cmd-y to preview it and File > Save Attachments to 
> save. I set up a shortcut key so I can save attachments with one keystroke, 
> making it even easier.
>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>> The thing of it is, when I get an e-mail with an attachment, I cannot get 
>> access to the attachment exept by opening the file menu and clicking on 
>> "save attachment".  Then I save it.  seriously, that's the only way I found 
>> that works for me under Mavricks.  I use the so-called normal view.  any 
>> suggestions for settings I might consider adjusting?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 9:50 AM, isaac  wrote:
>>> 
>>> To open a mail attachments  interact with the attachment and then press vo 
>>> space bar to open the menu. 
>>> When the menu comes up then choose save attachments.isaac
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>>> 
 On Jun 2, 2014, at 8:35 AM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I apologize because I know this has been covered in the list before. I am 
 a latecomer to Mavericks and I need to know how to open mail attachments. 
 What I have done in the past: vo shift plus m then push open in and then 
 pushed TextEdit is not working. Please help!
 Thank you very much!
 
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Re: WWDC Keynote at 10:00 AM Pacific, Live Stream Link

[Jessica D]

Will it ever show up? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 2, 2014, at 1:17 PM, Jane  wrote:
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> Here's the strean:  http://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2014/
> 
> 
>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Jessica  wrote:
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>> i am subscribed to the podcast. the event has not shown up yet though.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
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>>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wwdc/id640199958?mt=8
>>> 
>>> There used to be an Apple Keynotes podcast. I'm not sure if that still 
>>> exists.
>>> 
>>> HtH,
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too 
>>> dark to read."--Groucho Marx
>>> 
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keynote question

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

what devices will run ios8 and osx that will be released?
just fineshed watching keynote and he never said
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Re: keynote question

[Teresa Cochran]

Looks like iphone 4s and up, iPad 2 and up, and iPod 5th gen for iOS8. For 
Yosemite, the page is overloaded, so I haven't found system requirements yet. 
The public beta page is swamped and there's an error message to that effect.

HtH,
Teresa

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> just fineshed watching keynote and he never said
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Re: keynote question

[Christopher Hallsworth]

From what I read iOS 8 will run on iPhone 4s and later, iPad 2 and 
later, all iPad minis and iPod Touch 5th Generation. Not a huge change 
except we gather in the fall to mourn the death of the iPhone 4 smile.


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On 02/06/2014 20:08, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:

what devices will run ios8 and osx that will be released?
just fineshed watching keynote and he never said
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Re: keynote question

[isaac]

They did not mention any voiceover improvements at all.
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> iPad minis and iPod Touch 5th Generation. Not a huge change except we gather 
> in the fall to mourn the death of the iPhone 4 smile.
> 
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>> what devices will run ios8 and osx that will be released?
>> just fineshed watching keynote and he never said
>> Hank
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Re: keynote question

[Christopher Hallsworth]

They won't. That will be made available when ready. This is usual for 
WWDC as it's targeted at the mainstream audience.


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On 02/06/2014 20:37, isaac wrote:

They did not mention any voiceover improvements at all.
isaac
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On Jun 2, 2014, at 2:35 PM, Christopher Hallsworth  
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 From what I read iOS 8 will run on iPhone 4s and later, iPad 2 and later, all 
iPad minis and iPod Touch 5th Generation. Not a huge change except we gather in 
the fall to mourn the death of the iPhone 4 smile.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

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what devices will run ios8 and osx that will be released?
just fineshed watching keynote and he never said
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Re: keynote question

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

what is the public beta page?
I am signed up as a public beta tester a while back when they first 
opened it up for maverick


On 6/2/2014 12:22 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

Looks like iphone 4s and up, iPad 2 and up, and iPod 5th gen for iOS8. For 
Yosemite, the page is overloaded, so I haven't found system requirements yet. 
The public beta page is swamped and there's an error message to that effect.

HtH,
Teresa

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what devices will run ios8 and osx that will be released?
just fineshed watching keynote and he never said
Hank

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Re: keynote question

[Teresa Cochran]

I wasn't aware there was a public beta test for mavericks. the page is here: 
https://appleseed.apple.com/betaprogram/ You may only have to sign in with your 
Apple ID.

Teresa

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

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> what is the public beta page?
> I am signed up as a public beta tester a while back when they first opened it 
> up for maverick
> 
> On 6/2/2014 12:22 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> Looks like iphone 4s and up, iPad 2 and up, and iPod 5th gen for iOS8. For 
>> Yosemite, the page is overloaded, so I haven't found system requirements 
>> yet. The public beta page is swamped and there's an error message to that 
>> effect.
>> 
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>>  
>> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
>> 
>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> what devices will run ios8 and osx that will be released?
>>> just fineshed watching keynote and he never said
>>> Hank
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Re: WWDC keynote question

[Teresa Cochran]

One more note: they haven't released any software yet. The first million 
applicants will be accepted. I am a little worried, because I still haven't 
seen any system requirements. Not sure if my old machine is up to it, but I'll 
find out.

Teresa

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On Jun 2, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
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> what is the public beta page?
> I am signed up as a public beta tester a while back when they first opened it 
> up for maverick
> 
> On 6/2/2014 12:22 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> Looks like iphone 4s and up, iPad 2 and up, and iPod 5th gen for iOS8. For 
>> Yosemite, the page is overloaded, so I haven't found system requirements 
>> yet. The public beta page is swamped and there's an error message to that 
>> effect.
>> 
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>>  
>> "We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan
>> 
>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 12:08 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> what devices will run ios8 and osx that will be released?
>>> just fineshed watching keynote and he never said
>>> Hank
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Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

[Teresa Cochran]

Has anyone found these? I'm wondering if my decrepit 2009 Mac Mini is up to the 
task. Actually, it's pretty spry for its age. :) 

Teresa

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Brailliant 40 not pairing

[Matt Dierckens]

Hi all.
My student is trying to connect his Brailliant 40 to his mac with bluetooth, 
and we get a pairing request failed. Strange thing is, it doesn't bring up a 
pairing request dialog for him to enter anything. what should he do?
The display, naturally works with USB. He's running with the newest firmware.
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Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

[Jessica D]

This page I just found use the system requirements for the next Mac update.
http://www.businessinsider.com/ios-8-os-x-1010-yosemite-system-requirements-2014-6

Sent from my iPhone

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> the task. Actually, it's pretty spry for its age. :) 
> 
> Teresa
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Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

[Jessica]

I wonder if my mac can handle it. It is not listed for some reason.
Jessica
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Apple Mail and Gmail

[Bill Holton]

Hi.
Can anyone offer suggestions how to improve the Mail performance with Gmail.  
As it is, i have messages trailing in up to an hour after they appear on my 
phone.  Failing that, is there an accessible Mail replacement I should try?  
Thanks.

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Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

[Teresa Cochran]

Looks like I'm in luck. Thanks.

Jessia, what is your Mac model?

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dark to read."--Groucho Marx

On Jun 2, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Jessica  wrote:

> I wonder if my mac can handle it. It is not listed for some reason.
> Jessica
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>> the task. Actually, it's pretty spry for its age. :) 
>> 
>> Teresa
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Re: keynote question

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Guess it will finally be time to upgrade my poor old iPhone 4. At least 
I have until fall to save up.


CB

On 6/2/14, 3:35 PM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote:
From what I read iOS 8 will run on iPhone 4s and later, iPad 2 and 
later, all iPad minis and iPod Touch 5th Generation. Not a huge change 
except we gather in the fall to mourn the death of the iPhone 4 smile.


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On 02/06/2014 20:08, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:

what devices will run ios8 and osx that will be released?
just fineshed watching keynote and he never said
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Re: keynote question

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

No, but they did mention the ability to add different keyboards so that 
should be a boon for those who like to type different. In particular, it 
sounds like the Flesky folks should be able to just provide a keyboard 
plugin without requiring specific support to be compiled into every app.


CB

On 6/2/14, 3:37 PM, isaac wrote:

They did not mention any voiceover improvements at all.
isaac
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 From what I read iOS 8 will run on iPhone 4s and later, iPad 2 and later, all 
iPad minis and iPod Touch 5th Generation. Not a huge change except we gather in 
the fall to mourn the death of the iPhone 4 smile.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

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what devices will run ios8 and osx that will be released?
just fineshed watching keynote and he never said
Hank


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Re: keynote question

[Devin Prater]

Oh, so OS X 10.10 will be public beta?

> On Jun 2, 2014, at 14:22, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
> Looks like iphone 4s and up, iPad 2 and up, and iPod 5th gen for iOS8. For 
> Yosemite, the page is overloaded, so I haven't found system requirements yet. 
> The public beta page is swamped and there's an error message to that effect.
> 
> HtH,
> Teresa
>
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> 
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>> just fineshed watching keynote and he never said
>> Hank
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Re: keynote question

[Devin Prater]

I'm glad my iPod five supported.

> On Jun 2, 2014, at 14:35, Christopher Hallsworth  
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> 
> From what I read iOS 8 will run on iPhone 4s and later, iPad 2 and later, all 
> iPad minis and iPod Touch 5th Generation. Not a huge change except we gather 
> in the fall to mourn the death of the iPhone 4 smile.
> 
> Christopher Hallsworth
> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
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>> On 02/06/2014 20:08, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
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>> just fineshed watching keynote and he never said
>> Hank
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Re: keynote question

[Devin Prater]

And? They rarely give voice over improvement text in the what's new section of 
iOS updates.

> On Jun 2, 2014, at 14:37, isaac  wrote:
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> They did not mention any voiceover improvements at all.
> isaac
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>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 2:35 PM, Christopher Hallsworth 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> From what I read iOS 8 will run on iPhone 4s and later, iPad 2 and later, 
>> all iPad minis and iPod Touch 5th Generation. Not a huge change except we 
>> gather in the fall to mourn the death of the iPhone 4 smile.
>> 
>> Christopher Hallsworth
>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
>> www.hadley.edu
>> 
>>> On 02/06/2014 20:08, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
>>> what devices will run ios8 and osx that will be released?
>>> just fineshed watching keynote and he never said
>>> Hank
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Re: keynote question

[Devin Prater]

Going to be amazing! Fleksy in braille and all the others will be supported.

> On Jun 2, 2014, at 16:40, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
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> No, but they did mention the ability to add different keyboards so that 
> should be a boon for those who like to type different. In particular, it 
> sounds like the Flesky folks should be able to just provide a keyboard plugin 
> without requiring specific support to be compiled into every app.
> 
> CB
> 
>> On 6/2/14, 3:37 PM, isaac wrote:
>> They did not mention any voiceover improvements at all.
>> isaac
>> isaac.heb...@gmail.com
>>  Skype gold_wildcat
>> 
>>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 2:35 PM, Christopher Hallsworth 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> From what I read iOS 8 will run on iPhone 4s and later, iPad 2 and later, 
>>> all iPad minis and iPod Touch 5th Generation. Not a huge change except we 
>>> gather in the fall to mourn the death of the iPhone 4 smile.
>>> 
>>> Christopher Hallsworth
>>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
>>> www.hadley.edu
>>> 
 On 02/06/2014 20:08, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
 what devices will run ios8 and osx that will be released?
 just fineshed watching keynote and he never said
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Itunes Help needed

[Lee Jones]

Dear List, I copied an mp3 album folder into the music section of the itunes 
media folder, but when I select music from the pop up in itunes itself it does 
not show up.  The only tracks that show up are those that I played with itunes 
from finder.  Itunes  shows lots of past played  files   under music, even 
though these files are not in the itunes media folder, and when I activate them 
it tells me that itunes no longer has access to the files.  I have 
automatically add to library turned off, although in the past it turned itself 
back on.  How do I get it to show just what is in the itunes media folder and 
purchased music from the store and nothing else?  Is it better to add each 
track separately?  Is it better to add music through control O in itunes 
itself?  There seems to be very few preferences for a program that does so many 
things.  I am running mavericks.  
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Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

[Jessica D]

Late 2013 I think 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 2, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
> Looks like I'm in luck. Thanks.
> 
> Jessia, what is your Mac model?
> 
> “Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too 
> dark to read.”—Groucho Marx 
> 
>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Jessica  wrote:
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>> I wonder if my mac can handle it. It is not listed for some reason.
>> Jessica
>> jldai...@gmail.com
>> 
>>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
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>>> Has anyone found these? I'm wondering if my decrepit 2009 Mac Mini is up to 
>>> the task. Actually, it's pretty spry for its age. :) 
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Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

[Teresa Cochran]

You should be ok, as you have a later model. There are models listed from 2008.

HtH,
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On Jun 2, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Jessica D  wrote:

> Late 2013 I think 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 2, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
>> Looks like I'm in luck. Thanks.
>> 
>> Jessia, what is your Mac model?
>> 
>> "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too 
>> dark to read."--Groucho Marx
>> 
>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Jessica  wrote:
>> 
>>> I wonder if my mac can handle it. It is not listed for some reason.
>>> Jessica
>>> jldai...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>> 
 Has anyone found these? I'm wondering if my decrepit 2009 Mac Mini is up 
 to the task. Actually, it's pretty spry for its age. :) 
 
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Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

will a 2012 mac mini model support this new os when it comes out?

On 6/2/2014 2:58 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
You should be ok, as you have a later model. There are models listed 
from 2008.


HtH,
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On Jun 2, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Jessica D > wrote:



Late 2013 I think

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 2, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Teresa Cochran > wrote:



Looks like I'm in luck. Thanks.

Jessia, what is your Mac model?

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, 
it's too dark to read."---Groucho Marx


On Jun 2, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Jessica > wrote:



I wonder if my mac can handle it. It is not listed for some reason.
Jessica
jldai...@gmail.com 

On Jun 2, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Teresa Cochran > wrote:


Has anyone found these? I'm wondering if my decrepit 2009 Mac Mini 
is up to the task. Actually, it's pretty spry for its age. :)


Teresa

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Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

[Matt Dierckens]

Guys, if it says model name and newer, I'm assuming that  yes, it will be 
supported.
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On Jun 2, 2014, at 6:04 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona 
 wrote:

> will a 2012 mac mini model support this new os when it comes out?
> 
> On 6/2/2014 2:58 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> You should be ok, as you have a later model. There are models listed from 
>> 2008.
>> 
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> Teresa Cochran
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>> 
>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Jessica D  wrote:
>> 
>>> Late 2013 I think 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>> 
 Looks like I'm in luck. Thanks.
 
 Jessia, what is your Mac model?
 
 "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's 
 too dark to read."--Groucho Marx
 
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> I wonder if my mac can handle it. It is not listed for some reason.
> Jessica
> jldai...@gmail.com
> 
> On Jun 2, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
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>> to the task. Actually, it's pretty spry for its age. :) 
>> 
>> Teresa
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Re: Setting pdf Files to Open in Preview?

[Kayaker]

Hi,

Didn't I just answer this exact question over the weekend? You cannot in 
Safari, click on a pdf link and have it open in preview. This was deprecated in 
Safari version 7, maybe even 6.1. This is done by a helper app database in 
safari. The technical way to set this preference was via this command in 
terminal:
defaults write com.apple.Safari WebKitOmitPDFSupport -bool NO 

This preference is no longer supported.

Absolutely do not enable Safari to open safe files after download. This is a 
huge security risk. In fact, Apple should be ashamed they enable this by 
default. Turn it off and keep it off.

The finder's Get Info and open with setting has absolutely nothing to do with 
the initial question. That only affects files in the Finder's open API (e.g. 
Double clicking the file or command O).

Again, the easiest solution I am aware of is to have Safari open the PDF in the 
safari browser, and then contextual click on the pdf and open in Preview.

If you wish to search the Apple forums, you'll find exactly what I've just said 
above.

Best,
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On May 31, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> I don't have access to my computer right now, but there's an option in 
> preferences that says "open safe files after downloading". You might try that.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> Winging its way from my iPod
> 
>> On May 30, 2014, at 9:37 PM, Venkatesh Potluri  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> Starting with mavericks, opening PDFs has not been accessible for me.
>> All the PDFs open in the adobe plugin. For this to happen, I have to
>> click some where in the centre of the screen and tell safari to trust
>> the website. How do I get safari to open PDFs like before?
>> I hope I made my concern clear.
>> Thanks,
>> Venkatesh Potluri
>> 
>>> On 5/31/14, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>> Ah well, it's really no biggy. :) I was just wondering if I was missing
>>> something, and, yes, hoping the teeniest little bit. :) thanks for the
>>> pointers.
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P.
>>> Feynman
>>> 
 On May 30, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Kayaker  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 The pdf file type is supported inline with Safari. Just like you don't
 have every image JPEG open in a graphics program, so  is it with PDFs.
 There used to be a setting in Snow Leopard that allowed Safari to open PDF
 files in Preview, but that got cut with Lion, as I recall. I also miss
 this feature.
 
 What I tend to do, is actually have Safari open the pdf, then I use the
 contextual menu on the pdf to open in preview.  This eliminates the need
 for the download and open.  It's a little faster than the way you
 describe, and you don't have to clean up your downloads folder.  If you
 wish to actually save the pdf locally, you can do a save as from preview
 and put it where ever you want.
 
 I know it's not the answer you were hoping for.
 
 Best,
 --k
 
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 questions.
 
 
 
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> 
> Hi, folk,
> 
> I've been looking at ways to have pdfs open in Preview instead of Safari.
> I can press option-enter on the link to download the file, then open it
> from downloads. I've looked in the info window, but it says that pdfs
> open with preview. I next reviewed settings in Preview preferences, but
> couldn't find anything related to viewing in Safari. Is there a setting
> I'm missing, or will I need to use the option-enter method?
> 
> Thanks,
> Teresa
> 
> On the other hand, there are different fingers.
> 
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Re: Itunes Help needed

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That won't get the album/folder into yur library database. You either have to 
load the folder from within iTuens itself, or move the folder into the "add 
automatically to iTunes" folder in the music library. That'll put the MP3's 
into the database for you when you first open iTunes.
I'd delete the folder from where you put it and move it into the "automatically 
add" folder, then open iTuens and let it add the folder automatically for you.

On Jun 2, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Lee Jones  wrote:

> Dear List, I copied an mp3 album folder into the music section of the itunes 
> media folder, but when I select music from the pop up in itunes itself it 
> does not show up.  The only tracks that show up are those that I played with 
> itunes from finder.  Itunes  shows lots of past played  files   under music, 
> even though these files are not in the itunes media folder, and when I 
> activate them it tells me that itunes no longer has access to the files.  I 
> have automatically add to library turned off, although in the past it turned 
> itself back on.  How do I get it to show just what is in the itunes media 
> folder and purchased music from the store and nothing else?  Is it better to 
> add each track separately?  Is it better to add music through control O in 
> itunes itself?  There seems to be very few preferences for a program that 
> does so many things.  I am running mavericks.  
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Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

[Ray Foret Jr]

In short, I'm okay at least for the next round.  Can you just imagine how 
that's going to work out with accessibility?


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Jun 2, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Jessica D  wrote:

> This page I just found use the system requirements for the next Mac update.
> http://www.businessinsider.com/ios-8-os-x-1010-yosemite-system-requirements-2014-6
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> the task. Actually, it's pretty spry for its age. :) 
>> 
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Re: keynote question

[Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona]

they mentioned it in the keynote, there going to be providing several 
public beta's threw out the summer

Hank

On 6/2/2014 2:46 PM, Devin Prater wrote:

Oh, so OS X 10.10 will be public beta?


On Jun 2, 2014, at 14:22, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

Looks like iphone 4s and up, iPad 2 and up, and iPod 5th gen for iOS8. For 
Yosemite, the page is overloaded, so I haven't found system requirements yet. 
The public beta page is swamped and there's an error message to that effect.

HtH,
Teresa

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what devices will run ios8 and osx that will be released?
just fineshed watching keynote and he never said
Hank

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Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

[Teresa Cochran]

Well, the way I figure it, when using an off-the-shelf product, you take your 
chances with accessibility. I signed up for the public beta. if it doesn't work 
out, I know from trial and error how to erase my drive and revert to an earlier 
OS. It should be a piece of cake compared to some of the bleeding-edge Linux 
distributions I've tried.

HtH,
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> In short, I'm okay at least for the next round.  Can you just imagine how 
> that's going to work out with accessibility?
> 
> 
> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Jun 2, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Jessica D  wrote:
> 
>> This page I just found use the system requirements for the next Mac update.
>> http://www.businessinsider.com/ios-8-os-x-1010-yosemite-system-requirements-2014-6
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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>>> Has anyone found these? I'm wondering if my decrepit 2009 Mac Mini is up to 
>>> the task. Actually, it's pretty spry for its age. :) 
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> 
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Re: iTunes cannot import CDs

[Kristeen Hughes]

Thanks Kevin, I will try that.

Kristeen

On Jun 2, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Kevin Shaw  wrote:

> hi Kristeen,
> 
> Set iTunes and Finder to do nothing and try manually importing by VO-Shift-M 
> in the track list and choosing Create AAC Version. If you're still getting 3k 
> file names, something's up with your iTunes configuration. A little extra 
> work, but this way you can spot any problems.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> On 2014-06-01, at 7:59 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:
> 
>> When I put a CD in my Mac Mini, it appears in Finder and iTunes. I have 
>> iTunes set to import and eject. No matter what CD I try, it finishes 
>> importing them and it ejects them. THe problem is, all it has imported is 
>> the title of each song on the CD. They are all about 3 KB in size and have 
>> no audio. They are in the iTunes library, but are useless. I've tried to do 
>> them as iTunes Plus and as MP3 files. I've used the AAc encoder and the MPEG 
>> encoder. Does nayone know why this is happening?
>> 
>> Kristeen
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Having problems with re-joining the list

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Hi,
I am trying to find out if I have re-joined the list. No need to reply as I 
should see this message. I have not received any mail today.
Sorry for having to do this.
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Google help please

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Hi all,
I am hoping somebody has a good knowledge of Google Groups.
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My messages are going to my gMail account instead.
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Re: iTunes cannot import CDs

[Kristeen Hughes]

Kevin and anyone else,
When I do this manually, it creates an .m4a file that is 94K in size. I did 
this for the whole album. It created 12 songs and they were all 94K and will 
not play. Any other advice? What could be wrong with the configuration? Is it 
helpful to delete the plst file?

Thanks.

Kristeen
On Jun 1, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:

> When I put a CD in my Mac Mini, it appears in Finder and iTunes. I have 
> iTunes set to import and eject. No matter what CD I try, it finishes 
> importing them and it ejects them. THe problem is, all it has imported is the 
> title of each song on the CD. They are all about 3 KB in size and have no 
> audio. They are in the iTunes library, but are useless. I've tried to do them 
> as iTunes Plus and as MP3 files. I've used the AAc encoder and the MPEG 
> encoder. Does nayone know why this is happening?
> 
> Kristeen
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Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi guys
I just got through listening to the keynote, and I didn't hear anything that 
calls me to say, all know jeepers! I think we're going to be okay basically, 
but, as always, we will probably have some Accessibility miseries for a while. 
If I understand what was said, they wrote a new programming language which, if 
I understand what was going on there, they'll be able to figure out problems 
easier. Do I get that right?
Sincerely,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 2, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
> 
> In short, I'm okay at least for the next round.  Can you just imagine how 
> that's going to work out with accessibility?
> 
> 
> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Jessica D  wrote:
>> 
>> This page I just found use the system requirements for the next Mac update.
>> http://www.businessinsider.com/ios-8-os-x-1010-yosemite-system-requirements-2014-6
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Has anyone found these? I'm wondering if my decrepit 2009 Mac Mini is up to 
>>> the task. Actually, it's pretty spry for its age. :) 
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> “Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too 
>>> dark to read.”—Groucho Marx
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escape key working under fusion but not under OSX?

[Scott Erichsen]

Hi all,

 

I have a really strange problem with a macbook air running Mavericks.

 

The escape key is working under VMWare fusion on Windows 7 64bit, but will
not work on OSX at all. I can't get out of menues, or use the escape key in
any way.

It's as if it's broken and just does nothing.

Short of reinstalling the entire OS and everything else, does anyone have
any suggestions?

Thanks.

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Re: Google help please

[Teresa Cochran]

hi, max,

Go to this urL: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries and make sure 
you're signed into your account. VO-space on "My Settings". Press the 
down-arrow key to go through the menu and find 'my membership and email 
settings for this group and press return." If the address you want to switch to 
is verified with Google, it should show in the popup menu of choices for 
addresses to use. If it doesn't show up, you will have to add it in your 
account. Then press the save button.

HtH,
teresa

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too 
dark to read."--Groucho Marx

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> Thanks for any help I am getting desperate!
> Max
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Re: Google help please

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Max,

First make sure that you've logged into Google on the Net with your BigPond.com 
account, either in Safari or Chrome.  Next, go to the link

http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries

which is also located at the bottom of messages posted to this list on the 
"Visit this Group" line.  This will give you access to the settings for your 
given eMail address. Locate the "My Settings" pop-up menu and activate it.  In 
Safari, this requires the return key then arrows.  In Chrome, use 
ctrl-cmd-space then arro keys.  Press return on the eMail Settings for this 
Group option and confirm that you have it set to send you eMails as they are 
posted.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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Re: Google help please

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

I checked and your account was added to the mailing list at 6PM EST with 
your bigpond email address and is set to receive all emails. Does gmail 
do some kind of funky email forwarding? Everything seems correct from 
this end.


CB

On 6/2/14, 10:21 PM, Agent086b wrote:

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I am subscribed to this list but I am not receiving messages to this address.
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Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

They have a new language which is called Swift. Seems to eliminate a lot 
of the cruft required to get ObjectiveC to do what they want and also 
eliminates a number of constructs that were authoring errors. So it 
sounds like they are trying to set developers up for success more easily 
which should be good for everybody.


CB

On 6/2/14, 10:37 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:

Hi guys
I just got through listening to the keynote, and I didn't hear 
anything that calls me to say, all know jeepers! I think we're going 
to be okay basically, but, as always, we will probably have some 
Accessibility miseries for a while. If I understand what was said, 
they wrote a new programming language which, if I understand what was 
going on there, they'll be able to figure out problems easier. Do I 
get that right?

Sincerely,
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 2, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Ray Foret Jr > wrote:


In short, I'm okay at least for the next round.  Can you just imagine 
how that's going to work out with accessibility?



Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
blind built-in!


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Jun 2, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Jessica D > wrote:


This page I just found use the system requirements for the next Mac 
update.

http://www.businessinsider.com/ios-8-os-x-1010-yosemite-system-requirements-2014-6

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 2, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Teresa Cochran > wrote:


Has anyone found these? I'm wondering if my decrepit 2009 Mac Mini 
is up to the task. Actually, it's pretty spry for its age. :)


Teresa

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Re: Google help please

[Agent086b]

Thanks Chris for all your help
Thanks also to the others for  pointers how to change where GoogleGroups sends 
my messages. All is working well now.
Max

On 3 Jun 2014, at 1:53 pm, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
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> bigpond email address and is set to receive all emails. Does gmail do some 
> kind of funky email forwarding? Everything seems correct from this end.
> 
> CB
> 
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Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?

[Alex Hall]

True enough. The thing is, most developers know and will probably still use 
Objective-C for quite a while to come. I haven't used the Swift language yet, 
but I don't see how it will help avoid accessibility problems. It may offer 
slightly faster coding, but that is about it. I'll let you all know if my 
opinion changes as I get more into Swift, which won't be until Xcode6 comes out.
On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:56 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
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> They have a new language which is called Swift. Seems to eliminate a lot of 
> the cruft required to get ObjectiveC to do what they want and also eliminates 
> a number of constructs that were authoring errors. So it sounds like they are 
> trying to set developers up for success more easily which should be good for 
> everybody.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 6/2/14, 10:37 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>> Hi guys
>> I just got through listening to the keynote, and I didn't hear anything that 
>> calls me to say, all know jeepers! I think we're going to be okay basically, 
>> but, as always, we will probably have some Accessibility miseries for a 
>> while. If I understand what was said, they wrote a new programming language 
>> which, if I understand what was going on there, they'll be able to figure 
>> out problems easier. Do I get that right?
>> Sincerely,
>> Gigi
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:
>> 
>>> In short, I'm okay at least for the next round.  Can you just imagine how 
>>> that's going to work out with accessibility?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in!
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>> 
>>> On Jun 2, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Jessica D  wrote:
>>> 
 This page I just found use the system requirements for the next Mac update.
 http://www.businessinsider.com/ios-8-os-x-1010-yosemite-system-requirements-2014-6
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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> Has anyone found these? I'm wondering if my decrepit 2009 Mac Mini is up 
> to the task. Actually, it's pretty spry for its age. :) 
> 
> Teresa
> 
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How to go for a holiday and stop mail

[Agent086b]

Hello,
I am going away in July & August for a mother holiday. So I don't have the same 
problems re-joining the 2 google lists I am a member of.
How do I set a vacation mode? Groups that use the Mailman program there is an 
easy way to go nomail.
Sorry for all this traffic.
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Re: escape key working under fusion but not under OSX?

[CJ Daniel]

Scott,

Under Mavericks, the escape key's functionality changed.  You can press 
Option-Escape key to actuate a standard escape key function.  Also, VO has a 
general escape key, when VO-Escape key is pressed.  However, the VO sequence 
doesn't always work for me, while the Option-Escape key, pretty much, does the 
trick all the time.

Hope this helps,

CJ


On Jun 2, 2014, at 7:41 PM, Scott Erichsen  wrote:

> Hi all,
>  
> I have a really strange problem with a macbook air running Mavericks.
>  
> The escape key is working under VMWare fusion on Windows 7 64bit, but will 
> not work on OSX at all. I can't get out of menues, or use the escape key in 
> any way.
> It's as if it's broken and just does nothing.
> Short of reinstalling the entire OS and everything else, does anyone have any 
> suggestions?
> Thanks.
> Scott
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RE: escape key working under fusion but not under OSX?

[Scott Erichsen]

Unfortunately that makes no sense and One air works fine while the other
doesn't. Is there any settings I can try without reinstalling?

 

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CJ Daniel
Sent: Tuesday, 3 June 2014 2:23 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: escape key working under fusion but not under OSX?

 

Scott,

 

Under Mavericks, the escape key's functionality changed.  You can press
Option-Escape key to actuate a standard escape key function.  Also, VO has a
general escape key, when VO-Escape key is pressed.  However, the VO sequence
doesn't always work for me, while the Option-Escape key, pretty much, does
the trick all the time.

 

Hope this helps,

 

CJ

 

 

On Jun 2, 2014, at 7:41 PM, Scott Erichsen 
wrote:





Hi all,

 

I have a really strange problem with a macbook air running Mavericks.

 

The escape key is working under VMWare fusion on Windows 7 64bit, but will
not work on OSX at all. I can't get out of menues, or use the escape key in
any way.

It's as if it's broken and just does nothing.

Short of reinstalling the entire OS and everything else, does anyone have
any suggestions?

Thanks.

Scott

 

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solved! RE: escape key working under fusion but not under OSX?

[Scott Erichsen]

Hi all,

This problem is now solved. Just for info, The mac that had the problems
wasn't mine but someone had enabled speakable items and that made the escape
key useless.

If you set the speakable items to off/disabled, the escape key works as
expected.

Thanks.

Scott

 

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Erichsen
Sent: Tuesday, 3 June 2014 2:32 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: escape key working under fusion but not under OSX?

 

Unfortunately that makes no sense and One air works fine while the other
doesn't. Is there any settings I can try without reinstalling?

 

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CJ Daniel
Sent: Tuesday, 3 June 2014 2:23 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: escape key working under fusion but not under OSX?

 

Scott,

 

Under Mavericks, the escape key's functionality changed.  You can press
Option-Escape key to actuate a standard escape key function.  Also, VO has a
general escape key, when VO-Escape key is pressed.  However, the VO sequence
doesn't always work for me, while the Option-Escape key, pretty much, does
the trick all the time.

 

Hope this helps,

 

CJ

 

 

On Jun 2, 2014, at 7:41 PM, Scott Erichsen 
wrote:

 

Hi all,

 

I have a really strange problem with a macbook air running Mavericks.

 

The escape key is working under VMWare fusion on Windows 7 64bit, but will
not work on OSX at all. I can't get out of menues, or use the escape key in
any way.

It's as if it's broken and just does nothing.

Short of reinstalling the entire OS and everything else, does anyone have
any suggestions?

Thanks.

Scott

 

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