Re: Bluetooth Speakers Question

2013-12-15 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey Ricardo,

That's fantastic advice. I just tried it with VO on, and your directions got me 
to where I needed to be with a little practice should be able to remember it. 
Thanks, going to try it tomorrow with VO turned off, to see if I can do it. 
Thanks again.
On Dec 15, 2013, at 1:40 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> With a little practice, and memorization, you can fix this with out 
> restarting your Mac.  First, you can open the sounds preferences by pressing 
> FN option F11 or F12.  Note: FN depends on how you have function keys set up 
> in your keyboard preferences.  You might have to only press Option plus F11 
> or F12.  So, if output was the last tab you were in in sound preferences, 
> this is remembered.  If you want to make extra sure your in the output tab, 
> as soon as you open sound preferences press VO right arrow twice, and VO 
> space once to select the output tab.  So now all you need do is press VO 
> command T to jump to the output table.  Press the up arrow a few times, (with 
> quick nav off) and you should get sound back through your built in output.
> 
> hth 
> 
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> On Dec 13, 2013, at 8:00 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey Nick,
>> 
>> We must think alike as as soon as I got the bluetooth speakers I went to 
>> keyboard to commander to see if I could set a toggle for my speaker output 
>> but couldn't find one. Yeah, the bluetooth speakers crapped out again today. 
>> I was on a long phone call and heard VO say there was a bluetooth error and 
>> sure enough after the call, no voiceover at all. I did figure out finally 
>> that restarting the computer will reset the bluetooth speakers so don't have 
>> to wait on a sighted person to get VO back, but no turning off of the 
>> speakers or anything else has gotten VO back just powering the whole thing 
>> down which I hate doing as I lose my focus in my lists in Night Owl.
>> On Dec 13, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Bryan,
>>> Yes, AirPlay is much more reliable than bluetooth and works perfectly, 
>>> assuming you can get VoiceOver to play via AirPlay in the first place.
>>> NO, unfortunately there's no way to get VoiceOver to default to the built 
>>> in output if bluetooth fails. If there were, there wouldn't be a problem. 
>>> The next best thing would be if there were a shortcut keystroke to make 
>>> VoiceOver switch to the built in sound output, but I know no way of doing 
>>> this either and so far Apple has apparently not acted on my request for 
>>> one. :)
>>> Nic
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Re: broadcasting on the mac

2013-12-15 Thread May and Noah
Heya, thanks for these. Going to see if I can figure out nicecast since all of 
our music is mp3.

Also Matt, since I now know who you are, *smiles* You also know of me.

May and Prince Noah
www.canadianlynx.ca

On Dec 14, 2013, at 6:33 AM, Matt Dierckens  wrote:

> There are two programs that are used for broadcasting.
> Nicecast will only stream to Mp3 servers.
> 2. Ladiocast, which will only stream to Ogg and AAC servers.
> I have experience with ladiocast but not nice cast.
> HTH.
> Take care. :)
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> 
> 
> On Dec 14, 2013, at 1:35 AM, May and Noah  wrote:
> 
>> Hey everyone.
>> 
>> Curious. Is there any software that works great with voiceover for 
>> broadcasting on the mac?
>> 
>> May and Prince Noah
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Problem with Itunes Match

2013-12-15 Thread Graham
Hi, 

 

I subscribe to Itunes Match which so far has been excellent. Currently I run
ML and the latest Itunes. IOS on my Iphone and Ipad is v6. 

 

This week I amended a couple of the playlists on my Mac and created a
completely new one. 

Now, the playlists I amended aren't showing on any of my I devices and on
the Mac they are saying Icloud error against them. The new playlist works
perfectly. 

 

Has anyone any ideas on how I can fix the issue? 

 

Kind regards

 

Graham

 

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Re: Problem with Itunes Match

2013-12-15 Thread Kevin Shaw
Try turning off and then turning on iTunes Match. I've had this issue as well 
and that seems to work. 
On 2013-12-15, at 4:27 AM, Graham  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> I subscribe to Itunes Match which so far has been excellent. Currently I run 
> ML and the latest Itunes. IOS on my Iphone and Ipad is v6.
> 
>  
> 
> This week I amended a couple of the playlists on my Mac and created a 
> completely new one.
> 
> Now, the playlists I amended aren't showing on any of my I devices and on the 
> Mac they are saying Icloud error against them. The new playlist works 
> perfectly.
> 
>  
> 
> Has anyone any ideas on how I can fix the issue?
> 
>  
> 
> Kind regards
> 
>  
> 
> Graham
> 
> 
>  
> 
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i tunes and devices

2013-12-15 Thread Caitlyn and Maggie
Hi,
I own an i  phone 4, a 5c and an i pad.  I now want to use the i phone 4 like 
an i pod since my 5c is more powerful and is the one attached to my cellular 
plan.

Is it possible for all three devices to be synched with my one i tunes library 
without getting the nag message all the time about wanting to erase the device 
and synch with this itunes library?

thanks!
Cait

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Re: locating edit boxes on web pages

2013-12-15 Thread Terje Strømberg
Hi

I have set ctrl + enter to a "go to next text field" in keyboard commands 
somewhere. I did not know about the vo - command + j . There are quite a few 
options in keyboard commands for qwerty in use with numeric keyboard. Apple 
standard usb keyboard.  

Take care

15. des. 2013 kl. 07:51 skrev Ricardo Walker :

> Hi,
> 
> Just to add to this, if you decide to turn quick nav on, there is no need to 
> use the web rotor.  At this point, you can just use 1 letter navigation like 
> on Windows screen readers.  The letter F takes you to the next text field, L, 
> next link, B, next button, C, next  checkbox, etc.  
> 
> hth
> 
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> On Dec 14, 2013, at 10:05 PM, Teresa Cochran  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Don,
>> 
>> You can turn quicknav on by pressing both left and right-arrow keys, then 
>> navigate to form fields by pressing up-arrrow and one of the side arrows 
>> till you get there. At this point, you can use the up and down arrow keys to 
>> find form fields. The other thing you can do is press command-VO-J to move 
>> between form fields. Command-VO-shift-J works to go backward. As far as I 
>> know, there's no command for moving between text boxes.
>> 
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>> On 12/14/2013 06:31 PM, don bishop wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Is there an easy and quick way to locate a field on a web page where you 
>>> need to enter data such as a username or even a search argument.
>>> Currently withsafari and mavericks I just poke around until I find it.  
>>> This is especially a problem with a new web page or  one I don’t visit 
>>> often.
>>> 
>>> Any pointers will be greatly appreciated.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Don
>>> 
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Re: i tunes and devices

2013-12-15 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

Why not just follow the prompt, and erase the music and sync with your library? 
 You would just have to do it once, and after that, your current iTunes library 
will be the default library for all 3 devices.  

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On Dec 15, 2013, at 10:23 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
wrote:

> Hi,
> I own an i  phone 4, a 5c and an i pad.  I now want to use the i phone 4 like 
> an i pod since my 5c is more powerful and is the one attached to my cellular 
> plan.
> 
> Is it possible for all three devices to be synched with my one i tunes 
> library without getting the nag message all the time about wanting to erase 
> the device and synch with this itunes library?
> 
> thanks!
> Cait
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Re: i tunes and devices

2013-12-15 Thread Caitlyn and Maggie
That’s what I did this time.  I just didn’t know whether it’d come up again for 
the others is all.

Thanks
Cait

On Dec 15, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Why not just follow the prompt, and erase the music and sync with your 
> library?  You would just have to do it once, and after that, your current 
> iTunes library will be the default library for all 3 devices.  
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> 
> On Dec 15, 2013, at 10:23 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I own an i  phone 4, a 5c and an i pad.  I now want to use the i phone 4 
>> like an i pod since my 5c is more powerful and is the one attached to my 
>> cellular plan.
>> 
>> Is it possible for all three devices to be synched with my one i tunes 
>> library without getting the nag message all the time about wanting to erase 
>> the device and synch with this itunes library?
>> 
>> thanks!
>> Cait
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Re: Problem with Itunes Match

2013-12-15 Thread Gerard Doody
Hi all I also have iTunes match my music will not all upload iTunes matchwhich 
is rather vexing. I also am wondering what is an AAC file thank you very much 
in advance

Jerry Doody
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Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 15, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Kevin Shaw  wrote:

Try turning off and then turning on iTunes Match. I've had this issue as well 
and that seems to work. 
> On 2013-12-15, at 4:27 AM, Graham  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> I subscribe to Itunes Match which so far has been excellent. Currently I run 
> ML and the latest Itunes. IOS on my Iphone and Ipad is v6.
> 
>  
> 
> This week I amended a couple of the playlists on my Mac and created a 
> completely new one.
> 
> Now, the playlists I amended aren't showing on any of my I devices and on the 
> Mac they are saying Icloud error against them. The new playlist works 
> perfectly.
> 
>  
> 
> Has anyone any ideas on how I can fix the issue?
> 
>  
> 
> Kind regards
> 
>  
> 
> Graham
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
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Re: Dragging and dropping a Mailbox to Favorites yet again

2013-12-15 Thread Kliphton -------
Well, in mavericks this has changed.  The drag and drop feature, for mailboxes, 
at least for me hasn’t worked since I upgraded.  What has worked, is the mouse 
down and up command.  So mouse down on the mailbox you want to add to 
favorites, this is command, option, control, and shift plus the spacebar all at 
the same time.  When you get the mailbox where you want it, then do the same 
thing to do the mouse up command.  This has worked for me on both my macs so I 
know it works.  HTH.
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On Dec 14, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey Nick,
> 
> Wow, not sure what worked, but got both the mailboxes there after trying 
> several several different combinations, including toggling cursor tacking on 
> and off, trying to move the VO focus got several error messages about not 
> being able to move VO focus and mailbox is not draggable but just kept at it 
> with different combinations and eventually one of them worked. Thanks so much.
> On Dec 14, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
> wrote:
> 
>> HI Bryan,
>> I quite frequently use this and have always had success. Instead of using 
>> VO-Period to drop, however, try using VO-shift-period or VO-shift-comma 
>> while interacting with the Favourites Bar and while VO is focussed on one of 
>> your other favourites. These commands of course should drop the mailbox 
>> after or before one of your existing favourites respectively.
>> Cheers,
>> Nic
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Re: Terminal: VO and Alpine Mail?

2013-12-15 Thread -


The most important thing to do is set cursing tracking on in 
configuration...  The default keeps it at the bottom of the screen, you 
want the cursor to move along as you navigate the file.


When in configuration hit w for a search and use show cursor as the terms.

You will be on the correct line, hit enter and it will be toggled on. 
Now the up and down arrow keys will go to items and reading the current 
line will indicate its function.


All features of alpine will then move the cursor in navigation.

XB

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Re: Dragging and dropping a Mailbox to Favorites yet again

2013-12-15 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi,
Dragging a mailbox to the favorites bar has  worked for me in Mavericks.
I am in standard view though, and turned on full screen mode with command-ctrl 
f.

Interact with the mailbox to be dragged.
Command comma to start the dragging process. Move to favourites bar but don’t 
interact. I could then only get shift vo period  to work. The vo period alone 
didn’t work. I had to restart mail once but upon the restart it definitely 
worked.

Lisette
 
On 16/12/2013, at 6:48 am, Kliphton ---  wrote:

> Well, in mavericks this has changed.  The drag and drop feature, for 
> mailboxes, at least for me hasn’t worked since I upgraded.  What has worked, 
> is the mouse down and up command.  So mouse down on the mailbox you want to 
> add to favorites, this is command, option, control, and shift plus the 
> spacebar all at the same time.  When you get the mailbox where you want it, 
> then do the same thing to do the mouse up command.  This has worked for me on 
> both my macs so I know it works.  HTH.
> Kliphton
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> 
> On Dec 14, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey Nick,
>> 
>> Wow, not sure what worked, but got both the mailboxes there after trying 
>> several several different combinations, including toggling cursor tacking on 
>> and off, trying to move the VO focus got several error messages about not 
>> being able to move VO focus and mailbox is not draggable but just kept at it 
>> with different combinations and eventually one of them worked. Thanks so 
>> much.
>> On Dec 14, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> HI Bryan,
>>> I quite frequently use this and have always had success. Instead of using 
>>> VO-Period to drop, however, try using VO-shift-period or VO-shift-comma 
>>> while interacting with the Favourites Bar and while VO is focussed on one 
>>> of your other favourites. These commands of course should drop the mailbox 
>>> after or before one of your existing favourites respectively.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Nic
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Re: Terminal: VO and Alpine Mail?

2013-12-15 Thread Teresa Cochran
Oh, thanks so much for that tip. I was wondering how I was going to get to that 
setting in the first place.

Teresa

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

On Dec 15, 2013, at 10:11 AM, -  wrote:

> 
> The most important thing to do is set cursing tracking on in configuration... 
>  The default keeps it at the bottom of the screen, you want the cursor to 
> move along as you navigate the file.
> 
> When in configuration hit w for a search and use show cursor as the terms.
> 
> You will be on the correct line, hit enter and it will be toggled on. Now the 
> up and down arrow keys will go to items and reading the current line will 
> indicate its function.
> 
> All features of alpine will then move the cursor in navigation.
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Terminal: Setting up Incoming IMap in Alpine?

2013-12-15 Thread Teresa Cochran
Ok, I found the smtp server setting in configuration, but I can’t find the imap 
setting for incoming messages. I’m setting up a Google account, so I’m 
wondering where to put that server name. Also, will it import the folders for 
me? Third, can I set up more than one imap account? I have two Cox email 
addresses as well.

thanks,
teresa

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missing some mail. Is this still a thing?

2013-12-15 Thread John D. Lipsey
Hi guys:

I checked my mail on my iPhone yesterday.  I saved a message with some content 
that I would prefer to access on my mac. I came home last night, hopped on my 
mac, and no message. A bunch of new message came in, but the one I left in my 
inbox never pulled into my mac.  My gmail is set up to use imap, so the message 
should have still been on the server as far as I can tell.

I feel like I'm posting entirely too much now that I have a new computer!

-John

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drop box on the mac?

2013-12-15 Thread Kliphton -------
Okay, I hate making this comparison, but when using drop box on the mac, I 
can't seem to find the option to sink certain folders.  On windows, all you do 
is go to system tray, click settings, and the option is there.  How would you 
go about selecting certain folders with drop box on the mac?  Thanks.

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Re: missing some mail. Is this still a thing?

2013-12-15 Thread Teresa Cochran
Yes, unfortunately, Gmail syncing is still squirrely. Sometimes I get messages 
in my inbox that are a couple days old. It’s very disconcerting. I like to 
explore anyway, but if I can get Alpine to work for me in Macports with 
Terminal, I’m going to try it for awhile.

Teresa

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

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> Hi guys:
> 
> I checked my mail on my iPhone yesterday.  I saved a message with some 
> content that I would prefer to access on my mac. I came home last night, 
> hopped on my mac, and no message. A bunch of new message came in, but the one 
> I left in my inbox never pulled into my mac.  My gmail is set up to use imap, 
> so the message should have still been on the server as far as I can tell.
> 
> I feel like I'm posting entirely too much now that I have a new computer!
> 
> -John
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Lastpass secure notes

2013-12-15 Thread Agent086b
Hello,
I have asked this question before with no luck, so thought I would try again 
incase the knowledgeable  lady Lastpass user is around.
 How can we access secure notes in the program?
Thanks for any help.
Max

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Re: drop box on the mac?

2013-12-15 Thread Phil Halton
its in the advanced tab of dropbox  preferences, under "change setting". it 
presents a list of folders in the dropbox folder with checkboxes to the left of 
each folder. those that are unchecked will not be synced onto that device. 
unfortunately, it is not VO accessible and requires sighted assistance. I have 
some residual vision, so I used the magnifier feature to magnify the list way 
up, then used my mouse to click the folders I wanted synced on my MacBookAir, 
and unchecked the rest.
 . 
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> Okay, I hate making this comparison, but when using drop box on the mac, I 
> can't seem to find the option to sink certain folders.  On windows, all you 
> do is go to system tray, click settings, and the option is there.  How would 
> you go about selecting certain folders with drop box on the mac?  Thanks.
> 
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Re: Facebook Filtering

2013-12-15 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Yes, I've done this. I'm pretty sure it's in notification settings. I apologise 
I can't go digging around Facebook settings to find the exact spot for you, but 
I'm sure with some tinkering you'll get there. Between the differences between 
the mobile and desktop versions, and the fact that Facebook seems to change 
everything every few months or so, the settings are probably not where I last 
found them anyway. But they are there somewhere.
Cheers,
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Re: missing some mail. Is this still a thing?

2013-12-15 Thread Nicholas Parsons
I'm having the opposite problem. Messages I have moved into other folders or 
archived remain visible in my gMail inbox on my MacBook Air, though they appear 
only in their designated folder on my other devices not running Mavericks. I'm 
using a 2011 MacBook Air running Mavericks, Apple Mail and gMail IMAP. 
Admittedly it's only currently affecting one message, so it's not a huge deal, 
but still not what I expect or consider acceptable from my Mac.

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Re: Bluetooth Speakers Question

2013-12-15 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Hey, is there any way to know if QuickNav is on or off if you can't hear 
VoiceOver, or do you just use trial and error
Cheers,
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Re: accessing drop box settings

2013-12-15 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Cool, VO-Space on the clickable settings thing is now working for me too. Not 
sure why it wasn't working before. So VO-SHIFT-SPACE on Dropbox in the menu 
extras, then VO-Left Arrow to settings clickable, then VO-Space brings up the 
menu of various options.

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Re: accessing drop box settings

2013-12-15 Thread Nicholas Parsons
Sorry, correction. When I said VO-Left Arrow, I of course meant VO-Right Arrow. 
:)

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Re: missing some mail. Is this still a thing?

2013-12-15 Thread BBS
This also happens to me, not only on the Mac, but on Windows as well. 
It's on and off which is really annoying. I might consider using 
another email account if this keeps up for emails.


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Latest Prizmo is relatively smooth

2013-12-15 Thread Alex Hall
Hi all,
I got Prizmo for Mac a while ago thanks to a series of promo codes they were 
giving out on Twitter. When I got it, it was pretty bad and not at all an 
efficient experience. I just did a scan with their latest update; it is still 
not perfect, but they have come a long way.

First, in Prizmo's accessibility preferences, you can enable auto-OCR, so when 
a scan completes it will run OCR without you needing to do anything. Just bring 
up the window chooser, go to the "untitled window, new" item, and your text is 
there.

Second, note that Prizmo breaks up text based on paragraphs, so you will have a 
bunch of text fields with one paragraph each. You may need to stop interacting 
with the first one to read the rest.

So, is it Docuscan or Abbyy? I don't know, I have never used them. But is it 
better than it was? Most certainly, and the devs do take accessibility into 
consideration. The OCR percentage never used to be accessible, now it is; there 
did not used to be an auto-OCR option, now there is; the scanner selection list 
was barely accessible, now it works perfectly; and so on. Plus, it is only $50, 
by far the cheapest OCR solution for the Mac I know of. Follow @Prizmo on 
Twitter and you might see a promo code giveaway again this year. It's certainly 
worth a try. Plus, the OCR itself is quite good, at least in my limited tests.


Have a great day,
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Re: Latest Prizmo is relatively smooth

2013-12-15 Thread John Sanfilippo
Is this a strictly 64 bit app?

John

 
On Dec 15, 2013, at 8:16 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

Hi all,
I got Prizmo for Mac a while ago thanks to a series of promo codes they were 
giving out on Twitter. When I got it, it was pretty bad and not at all an 
efficient experience. I just did a scan with their latest update; it is still 
not perfect, but they have come a long way.

First, in Prizmo's accessibility preferences, you can enable auto-OCR, so when 
a scan completes it will run OCR without you needing to do anything. Just bring 
up the window chooser, go to the "untitled window, new" item, and your text is 
there.

Second, note that Prizmo breaks up text based on paragraphs, so you will have a 
bunch of text fields with one paragraph each. You may need to stop interacting 
with the first one to read the rest.

So, is it Docuscan or Abbyy? I don't know, I have never used them. But is it 
better than it was? Most certainly, and the devs do take accessibility into 
consideration. The OCR percentage never used to be accessible, now it is; there 
did not used to be an auto-OCR option, now there is; the scanner selection list 
was barely accessible, now it works perfectly; and so on. Plus, it is only $50, 
by far the cheapest OCR solution for the Mac I know of. Follow @Prizmo on 
Twitter and you might see a promo code giveaway again this year. It's certainly 
worth a try. Plus, the OCR itself is quite good, at least in my limited tests.


Have a great day,
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Re: Latest Prizmo is relatively smooth

2013-12-15 Thread Alex Hall
I have no idea, but the Prizmo team is pretty good about responding to users' 
questions. I don't have an email address here; you'd be best off googling 
"Prizmo for Mac" and getting the website that way.
On Dec 15, 2013, at 8:31 PM, John Sanfilippo  wrote:

> Is this a strictly 64 bit app?
> 
> John
> 
> 
> On Dec 15, 2013, at 8:16 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I got Prizmo for Mac a while ago thanks to a series of promo codes they were 
> giving out on Twitter. When I got it, it was pretty bad and not at all an 
> efficient experience. I just did a scan with their latest update; it is still 
> not perfect, but they have come a long way.
> 
> First, in Prizmo's accessibility preferences, you can enable auto-OCR, so 
> when a scan completes it will run OCR without you needing to do anything. 
> Just bring up the window chooser, go to the "untitled window, new" item, and 
> your text is there.
> 
> Second, note that Prizmo breaks up text based on paragraphs, so you will have 
> a bunch of text fields with one paragraph each. You may need to stop 
> interacting with the first one to read the rest.
> 
> So, is it Docuscan or Abbyy? I don't know, I have never used them. But is it 
> better than it was? Most certainly, and the devs do take accessibility into 
> consideration. The OCR percentage never used to be accessible, now it is; 
> there did not used to be an auto-OCR option, now there is; the scanner 
> selection list was barely accessible, now it works perfectly; and so on. 
> Plus, it is only $50, by far the cheapest OCR solution for the Mac I know of. 
> Follow @Prizmo on Twitter and you might see a promo code giveaway again this 
> year. It's certainly worth a try. Plus, the OCR itself is quite good, at 
> least in my limited tests.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: New email

2013-12-15 Thread Chris Blouch
Email me off list and I'll help you get the new address registered and 
remove the old one.


CB

On 12/14/13 3:47 PM, Pamela Francis wrote:

Hi folks,
I have activated a different email account.   I'm not sure how to forward my 
conversations from this list to  that account. I eventually want to shut this 
one down, as it is primarily spam. This list has always been very helpful, yet 
I don't check it as often as I used to, as my other email account is priority. 
Thanks in advance.

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Re: Terminal: VO and Alpine Mail?

2013-12-15 Thread Chris Blouch
Dunno about building it but it does not seem to be in Macports. Here was 
another discussion thread where somebody seems to have got it working:


http://www.freelists.org/post/macvoiceover/Fwd-Brltty-for-the-Terminal-on-Macosx

CB

On 12/14/13 2:17 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

Hi, Cheryl,

Yes, I love brltty. I’ve tried to install it in the past, but I can’t seem to 
get the right syntax. Is it in Macports? Do I do this?:
sudo port install brltty

or do I have to build it from source. I really don’t know anything about doing 
that, so I hope there’s an install package.

thanks,
teresa

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

On Dec 14, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:


It's better if you have a braille display and then use brltty in terminal. But 
do make sure you have cursor tracking on in Alpine's configuration. Even using 
vo that may help some. I do pretty much everything in terminal with a braille 
display and brltty.

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On Dec 14, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:


hi, all,

I was playing with alpine in terminal last night. VO doesn’t seem to track 
things very well, especially in the configuration file. Has anyone found a way 
to use VO with Lynx, Mutt, Alpine, etc.? Or is there a screen-reader that’s 
available through Macports? If it comes to it, I’ll experiment in Linux on my 
virtual machine with fusion.

Thanks,
Teresa

Slow down; you'll get there faster.

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Re: Latest Prizmo is relatively smooth

2013-12-15 Thread John Panarese
   Prizmo has certainly improved as far as the interface goes.  I still can't 
get the hang of getting any really sharp scans though at this point.  Of 
course, this could be a case of user error, but I am still getting far better 
results with DocuScan Plus and FineReader Pro.


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On Dec 15, 2013, at 8:16 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I got Prizmo for Mac a while ago thanks to a series of promo codes they were 
> giving out on Twitter. When I got it, it was pretty bad and not at all an 
> efficient experience. I just did a scan with their latest update; it is still 
> not perfect, but they have come a long way.
> 
> First, in Prizmo's accessibility preferences, you can enable auto-OCR, so 
> when a scan completes it will run OCR without you needing to do anything. 
> Just bring up the window chooser, go to the "untitled window, new" item, and 
> your text is there.
> 
> Second, note that Prizmo breaks up text based on paragraphs, so you will have 
> a bunch of text fields with one paragraph each. You may need to stop 
> interacting with the first one to read the rest.
> 
> So, is it Docuscan or Abbyy? I don't know, I have never used them. But is it 
> better than it was? Most certainly, and the devs do take accessibility into 
> consideration. The OCR percentage never used to be accessible, now it is; 
> there did not used to be an auto-OCR option, now there is; the scanner 
> selection list was barely accessible, now it works perfectly; and so on. 
> Plus, it is only $50, by far the cheapest OCR solution for the Mac I know of. 
> Follow @Prizmo on Twitter and you might see a promo code giveaway again this 
> year. It's certainly worth a try. Plus, the OCR itself is quite good, at 
> least in my limited tests.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
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Dual booting on a Mac.

2013-12-15 Thread Daniel Hawkins
Hello everyone,

This is my first post. My name is Daniel Hawkins, I have been completely blind 
for just over a year now. I just got my Macbook Pro last May. I have been 
slowly learning on how to use the Mac interface and Voiceover. Since my goal is 
to be an accessabilty trainer, I need to learn everything about technology for 
the blind. So what I want to do is dual boot or triple boot on my Macbook. From 
what I understand, Bootcamp does only one extra OS. So I was told to use 
rEFINd, to make multiple partitions. however I think learning rEFINd is a 
little over my head and I don’t know if it is accessible.

So my question is, do you guys know a way to dual boot to Windows 7 and or 8, 
and maybe a Linux or two?

If anyone know an accessible way, or a link that can explain that, I’d very 
very much appreciate that.

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

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Re: Dual booting on a Mac.

2013-12-15 Thread Chris Blouch
Wonder if you'd be better served doing VMWare Fusion to host all these 
different variants. There are some quirks with CapsLock and a few other 
things but the overall experience is pretty good running Windows in a 
window. Then you don't have to reboot everything and set up partitions 
just to switch between OSes.


CB

On 12/15/13 11:29 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:

Hello everyone,

This is my first post. My name is Daniel Hawkins, I have been 
completely blind for just over a year now. I just got my Macbook Pro 
last May. I have been slowly learning on how to use the Mac interface 
and Voiceover. Since my goal is to be an accessabilty trainer, I need 
to learn everything about technology for the blind. So what I want to 
do is dual boot or triple boot on my Macbook. From what I understand, 
Bootcamp does only one extra OS. So I was told to use rEFINd, to make 
multiple partitions. however I think learning rEFINd is a little over 
my head and I don’t know if it is accessible.


So my question is, do you guys know a way to dual boot to Windows 7 
and or 8, and maybe a Linux or two?


If anyone know an accessible way, or a link that can explain that, I’d 
very very much appreciate that.


Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

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Re: Terminal: Brltty, Was VO and Alpine Mail?

2013-12-15 Thread Teresa Cochran
Oops, wrong thread. But I was also looking for the information you provided. 
From it, I’ve decided I’m going to count on someone to compile it for macports 
before I mess with it. It’s more than I really want to get involved in doing, 
as much as i like brltty.

As for the Alpine mail client, I almost have it ready to roll. I have to fix a 
couple of settings. It was available in macports, and someone kindly pointed 
out here how to enable the cursor.

thanks,
Teresa

"Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. Feynman

On Dec 15, 2013, at 7:33 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> Dunno about building it but it does not seem to be in Macports. Here was 
> another discussion thread where somebody seems to have got it working:
> 
> http://www.freelists.org/post/macvoiceover/Fwd-Brltty-for-the-Terminal-on-Macosx
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/14/13 2:17 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> Hi, Cheryl,
>> 
>> Yes, I love brltty. I’ve tried to install it in the past, but I can’t seem 
>> to get the right syntax. Is it in Macports? Do I do this?:
>> sudo port install brltty
>> 
>> or do I have to build it from source. I really don’t know anything about 
>> doing that, so I hope there’s an install package.
>> 
>> thanks,
>> teresa
>> 
>> On the other hand, there are different fingers.
>> 
>> On Dec 14, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>> 
>>> It's better if you have a braille display and then use brltty in terminal. 
>>> But do make sure you have cursor tracking on in Alpine's configuration. 
>>> Even using vo that may help some. I do pretty much everything in terminal 
>>> with a braille display and brltty.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Cheryl
>>> 
>>> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
>>> meet Immanuel (God with us),
>>> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
>>> Christ, the risen Lord.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 14, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Teresa Cochran  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 hi, all,
 
 I was playing with alpine in terminal last night. VO doesn’t seem to track 
 things very well, especially in the configuration file. Has anyone found a 
 way to use VO with Lynx, Mutt, Alpine, etc.? Or is there a screen-reader 
 that’s available through Macports? If it comes to it, I’ll experiment in 
 Linux on my virtual machine with fusion.
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Re: Dual booting on a Mac.

2013-12-15 Thread Pete Nalda
Speaking of VMware Fusion, you think windows magnification, narrator, or a 
cheap alternative commercial magnification/screenreader run ok in that, as I 
don’t think VO would be available there, much less Zoom with tracking.

On Dec 15, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> Wonder if you'd be better served doing VMWare Fusion to host all these 
> different variants. There are some quirks with CapsLock and a few other 
> things but the overall experience is pretty good running Windows in a window. 
> Then you don't have to reboot everything and set up partitions just to switch 
> between OSes.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/15/13 11:29 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> This is my first post. My name is Daniel Hawkins, I have been completely 
>> blind for just over a year now. I just got my Macbook Pro last May. I have 
>> been slowly learning on how to use the Mac interface and Voiceover. Since my 
>> goal is to be an accessabilty trainer, I need to learn everything about 
>> technology for the blind. So what I want to do is dual boot or triple boot 
>> on my Macbook. From what I understand, Bootcamp does only one extra OS. So I 
>> was told to use rEFINd, to make multiple partitions. however I think 
>> learning rEFINd is a little over my head and I don’t know if it is 
>> accessible.
>> 
>> So my question is, do you guys know a way to dual boot to Windows 7 and or 
>> 8, and maybe a Linux or two?
>> 
>> If anyone know an accessible way, or a link that can explain that, I’d very 
>> very much appreciate that.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>> 
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>> 4GB DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>> 
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
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Re: Dual booting on a Mac.

2013-12-15 Thread Chris Blouch
Well, if it's for training then it depends on how they implement things. 
VMWare is supposed to be emulating low level hardware so that stuff 
should work. That said, if you just want magnification the OSX one might 
do what you need while VMWare is running. On a laptop control + two 
finger stroke up increases magnification while down decreases. I don't 
recall if that gesture is on by default but the checkbox to turn it on 
in OSX 10.8 is in the Accessibility preferences under Zoom.


CB

On 12/15/13 11:49 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:

Speaking of VMware Fusion, you think windows magnification, narrator, or a 
cheap alternative commercial magnification/screenreader run ok in that, as I 
don’t think VO would be available there, much less Zoom with tracking.

On Dec 15, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:


Wonder if you'd be better served doing VMWare Fusion to host all these 
different variants. There are some quirks with CapsLock and a few other things 
but the overall experience is pretty good running Windows in a window. Then you 
don't have to reboot everything and set up partitions just to switch between 
OSes.

CB

On 12/15/13 11:29 PM, Daniel Hawkins wrote:

Hello everyone,

This is my first post. My name is Daniel Hawkins, I have been completely blind 
for just over a year now. I just got my Macbook Pro last May. I have been 
slowly learning on how to use the Mac interface and Voiceover. Since my goal is 
to be an accessabilty trainer, I need to learn everything about technology for 
the blind. So what I want to do is dual boot or triple boot on my Macbook. From 
what I understand, Bootcamp does only one extra OS. So I was told to use 
rEFINd, to make multiple partitions. however I think learning rEFINd is a 
little over my head and I don’t know if it is accessible.

So my question is, do you guys know a way to dual boot to Windows 7 and or 8, 
and maybe a Linux or two?

If anyone know an accessible way, or a link that can explain that, I’d very 
very much appreciate that.

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD

Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit

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Re: Dragging and dropping a Mailbox to Favorites yet again

2013-12-15 Thread Brian Fischler
Thanks Clifton. Waiting until the next update for Mavericks as everything I 
have read about it hasn't been stellar, but will definitely save this away for 
when I eventually do upgrade.
On Dec 15, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Kliphton ---  wrote:

> Well, in mavericks this has changed.  The drag and drop feature, for 
> mailboxes, at least for me hasn’t worked since I upgraded.  What has worked, 
> is the mouse down and up command.  So mouse down on the mailbox you want to 
> add to favorites, this is command, option, control, and shift plus the 
> spacebar all at the same time.  When you get the mailbox where you want it, 
> then do the same thing to do the mouse up command.  This has worked for me on 
> both my macs so I know it works.  HTH.
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> On Dec 14, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
>> Hey Nick,
>> 
>> Wow, not sure what worked, but got both the mailboxes there after trying 
>> several several different combinations, including toggling cursor tacking on 
>> and off, trying to move the VO focus got several error messages about not 
>> being able to move VO focus and mailbox is not draggable but just kept at it 
>> with different combinations and eventually one of them worked. Thanks so 
>> much.
>> On Dec 14, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Nicholas Parsons 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> HI Bryan,
>>> I quite frequently use this and have always had success. Instead of using 
>>> VO-Period to drop, however, try using VO-shift-period or VO-shift-comma 
>>> while interacting with the Favourites Bar and while VO is focussed on one 
>>> of your other favourites. These commands of course should drop the mailbox 
>>> after or before one of your existing favourites respectively.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Nic
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