Re: Where does iTunes place files which you create as mp3 version?

[Lisette Wesseling]

Chris,
Command enter is perfect. This works really well. Thanks so much. I don't know 
how one finds out about all these great keyboard shortcuts. I suspect that's a 
mac one, not a VO one. Thanks anyway.

Lisette

On 26/03/2013, at 5:24 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> If you found it in spotlight, in addition to the other ways already 
> mentioned, you can hit command-return on it to open the containing folder 
> rather than opening the file. That should pop a new window with the file you 
> found in spotlight selected.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 3/24/13 4:41 AM, Lisette Wesseling wrote:
>> Hi
>> I've created an mp3 version of a particular song in my iTunes library, but 
>> can't find it on my mac? When I search in spotlight, I see the mp3 file but 
>> can't find out where it is. I want to upload it somewhere so need to find 
>> where it actually is.
>> Can anybody help?
>> 
>> Thanks a lot.
>> 
>> Lisette
>> 
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emulating control click

[Yuma Antoine Decaux]

Hi all,

I'm digging into file maker pro for my information systems course, and wanted 
to know if anyone here can emulate a control mouse click?

It seems fairly straight forward, but it's not. 

Any help greatly appreciated.

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Re: Getting Started.

[Chris H]

Hello all
you do not need to label graphics on the mac at all. There is a custom 
labels feature but this is for web elements or other controls whose 
label is not accessible or even present according to Vo.

Chris.


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On 26/03/2013 02:46, anita wrote:

How so? I'm asking because I simply don't know. Are there any graphics
that need labeling, to make them read better with VO?
- Original Message - From: "Matt Dierckens"

To: 
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: Getting Started.


Hi there.
Believe me, macintosh mail is so much better than any windows client I
ever used.

Matt
Sent from my mac
Twitter: matt692

On 2013-03-25, at 10:23 PM, "anita"  wrote:


Hi,
Is Mail better than Windows mail clients I.E., OE?
Anita
- Original Message -
From: Eugenia Firth
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: Getting Started.

Hi there
Basically, you should be okay now. The only thing you need now is to
get your end email:. I found it to be a pretty easy process.
You might try this. Press command and thespacebar.You should hear
voiceover say spotlight. Type in mail. Press enter. You will probably
get the message about setting it up. I can't remember exactly what
from there but I think you can follow the prompts. If you get into
trouble type command q to quit in any Macintosh program.
Regards,
Gigi

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On Mar 25, 2013, at 7:45 PM, anita  wrote:


Hi List,
After spending a considerable amount of time on the phone with
Apple's outstanding accessibility department, my MacBook Pro has
finally been registered. Not sure what the next step would be:
perhaps setting up e-mail accounts and  my browser? Is there anything
else that needs to be changed in Accessibility  Settings, to make VO
read better, or anything that I need to disable?
Thanks,
Anita

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Re: emulating control click

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Yuma,

What do you mean by emulating a Control-Click? You can do a Control-Click by 
bringing the mouse to where you want to do this and holding down the Control 
key while clicking with trackpad or mouse. Also, VO-Shift-m should do the same 
thing but doesn't always work.

Cheers,

Anne


On 26 Mar 2013, at 09:42, Yuma Antoine Decaux  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I'm digging into file maker pro for my information systems course, and wanted 
> to know if anyone here can emulate a control mouse click?
> 
> It seems fairly straight forward, but it's not. 
> 
> Any help greatly appreciated.
> 
> Yuma 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: MacOSX: Daisy reader

[Massimo Vettoretti]

Il giorno 25/mar/2013, alle ore 22:49, Devin Prater  ha 
scritto:

> I could never get this app to work. And can it do text only daisy books?
> 
Yes, there is text-only daisy books support... Unfortunately the App itself 
seems not to work :-(

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Re: emulating control click

[Yuma Antoine Decaux]

Yep, i did think ctrl option shift m does that. I'll try with the mouse click 
on the trackpad itself.

Best regarrds,

Yuma 








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On 26/03/2013, at 7:16 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Yuma,
> 
> What do you mean by emulating a Control-Click? You can do a Control-Click by 
> bringing the mouse to where you want to do this and holding down the Control 
> key while clicking with trackpad or mouse. Also, VO-Shift-m should do the 
> same thing but doesn't always work.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 26 Mar 2013, at 09:42, Yuma Antoine Decaux  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm digging into file maker pro for my information systems course, and 
>> wanted to know if anyone here can emulate a control mouse click?
>> 
>> It seems fairly straight forward, but it's not. 
>> 
>> Any help greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Yuma 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> Mob: +61 (0)410732547
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Re: Wireless Keyboards.

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi Anita well you need option and command keys on keyboards. I have a Bluetooth 
keyboard that I got from Apple for close to $100. I'm sure I could've got a 
cheaper one, but at least the keyboard matched my Mac keyboard.
Regards,
Gigi

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On Mar 25, 2013, at 9:04 PM, anita  wrote:

> Hi List,
> I have a wireless that I'm using on several Windows computers. Wonder if 
> this same model would be compatible with my  MacBrook, or will a specific 
> model be needed?
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Re: Getting Started.

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi Anita
Personally I think there about the same.

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On Mar 25, 2013, at 9:23 PM, anita  wrote:

> Hi,
> Is Mail better than Windows mail clients I.E., OE?
> Anita
> - Original Message -
> From: Eugenia Firth
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 9:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Getting Started.
> 
> Hi there
> Basically, you should be okay now. The only thing you need now is to get your 
> end email:. I found it to be a pretty easy process.
> You might try this. Press command and thespacebar.You should hear voiceover 
> say spotlight. Type in mail. Press enter. You will probably get the message 
> about setting it up. I can't remember exactly what from there but I think you 
> can follow the prompts. If you get into trouble type  command q to quit in 
> any Macintosh program.
> Regards,
> Gigi 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 25, 2013, at 7:45 PM, anita  wrote:
> 
>> Hi List,
>> After spending a considerable amount of time on the phone with Apple's 
>> outstanding accessibility department, my MacBook Pro has finally been 
>> registered. Not sure what the next step would be: perhaps setting up e-mail 
>> accounts and  my browser? Is there anything else that needs to be changed in 
>> Accessibility  Settings, to make VO read better, or anything that I need to 
>> disable?
>> Thanks,
>> Anita
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Re: Getting Started.

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi again the Anita
Spotlight is a search program that searches your computer and you can she's 
just search the web as well. It is very fast, and I have found it faster then 
searching in windows. To get there, you press command space and the. Then type 
in the word or phrase you want search for on your computer. It can be a 
filename or text in there.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Hi,
> What does spotlight mean?Is that like the desktop?
> Anita
> - Original Message -
> From: Eugenia Firth
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 9:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Getting Started.
> 
> Hi there
> Basically, you should be okay now. The only thing you need now is to get your 
> end email:. I found it to be a pretty easy process.
> You might try this. Press command and thespacebar.You should hear voiceover 
> say spotlight. Type in mail. Press enter. You will probably get the message 
> about setting it up. I can't remember exactly what from there but I think you 
> can follow the prompts. If you get into trouble type  command q to quit in 
> any Macintosh program.
> Regards,
> Gigi 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 25, 2013, at 7:45 PM, anita  wrote:
> 
>> Hi List,
>> After spending a considerable amount of time on the phone with Apple's 
>> outstanding accessibility department, my MacBook Pro has finally been 
>> registered. Not sure what the next step would be: perhaps setting up e-mail 
>> accounts and  my browser? Is there anything else that needs to be changed in 
>> Accessibility  Settings, to make VO read better, or anything that I need to 
>> disable?
>> Thanks,
>> Anita
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Re: Getting Started.

[Eugenia Firth]

I forgot to say it can be another way to bring up programs on your computer as 
well. I use it all the time instead of the dog, but the dock is another way to 
bring up your programs.

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> Hi,
> What does spotlight mean?Is that like the desktop?
> Anita
> - Original Message -
> From: Eugenia Firth
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 9:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Getting Started.
> 
> Hi there
> Basically, you should be okay now. The only thing you need now is to get your 
> end email:. I found it to be a pretty easy process.
> You might try this. Press command and thespacebar.You should hear voiceover 
> say spotlight. Type in mail. Press enter. You will probably get the message 
> about setting it up. I can't remember exactly what from there but I think you 
> can follow the prompts. If you get into trouble type  command q to quit in 
> any Macintosh program.
> Regards,
> Gigi 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 25, 2013, at 7:45 PM, anita  wrote:
> 
>> Hi List,
>> After spending a considerable amount of time on the phone with Apple's 
>> outstanding accessibility department, my MacBook Pro has finally been 
>> registered. Not sure what the next step would be: perhaps setting up e-mail 
>> accounts and  my browser? Is there anything else that needs to be changed in 
>> Accessibility  Settings, to make VO read better, or anything that I need to 
>> disable?
>> Thanks,
>> Anita
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Can anyone recommend a good inter point embosser?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

Shopping for a new embosser.  Just wondering what folks are using, and what you 
might recommend.
Cheers,
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Re: Wireless Keyboards.

[Chris Blouch]

Main problem I've had with using Windows keyboards on the Mac has not 
been connecting them but that the option and command keys get flipped. 
Normally from left to right on laptops it is function, control,option 
(alt), command but on windows keyboards they probably won't have the 
Function key and the command/option keys switch places. I think there is 
a way to remap those keys so the go back to their normal places but I 
eventually got tired of it and went with an Apple keyboard. To be clear, 
non-laptop Apple keyboards also lack the function key since that is 
usually for doing things like change the speaker volume or dim the 
screen. Speaking of which, you can get a lot more battery life out of 
your laptop if you turn the brightness all the way down by hitting F1 
about 16 times.


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On 3/25/13 10:04 PM, anita wrote:

Hi List,
I have a wireless that I'm using on several Windows computers. 
Wonder if this same model would be compatible with my  MacBrook, or 
will a specific model be needed?

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Re: Ricardo walker's garage band demos

[Phil Halton]

doing a search for "GarageBand" on ricardo's site will bring them up. Note 
that GarageBand is spelled without any spaces.


- Original Message - 
From: "Ricardo Walker" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: Ricardo walker's garage band demos



Hi,

I have them up on www.appletothecore.info.  You might have to click on the 
older posts link to view them.


hth

Ricardo Walker
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Twitter:@apple2thecore
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On Mar 25, 2013, at 10:32 PM, Tom Frank  wrote:

Where is the link to Ricardo's tutorials. I cannot find his garage band 
demos anywhere.


Tom Frank
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Re: Wireless Keyboards.

[Donovan Osborn]

Yes there is a way to remap them if this is the case. Go to System properties 
then to keyboards then  to the keyboard tab

There is a button called modifier keys press that and under the command and 
option keys put the opposite action.

Sincerely,

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On Mar 26, 2013, at 7:10 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> Main problem I've had with using Windows keyboards on the Mac has not been 
> connecting them but that the option and command keys get flipped. Normally 
> from left to right on laptops it is function, control,option (alt), command 
> but on windows keyboards they probably won't have the Function key and the 
> command/option keys switch places. I think there is a way to remap those keys 
> so the go back to their normal places but I eventually got tired of it and 
> went with an Apple keyboard. To be clear, non-laptop Apple keyboards also 
> lack the function key since that is usually for doing things like change the 
> speaker volume or dim the screen. Speaking of which, you can get a lot more 
> battery life out of your laptop if you turn the brightness all the way down 
> by hitting F1 about 16 times.
> 
> CB
> 
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>> Hi List,
>> I have a wireless that I'm using on several Windows computers. Wonder if 
>> this same model would be compatible with my  MacBrook, or will a specific 
>> model be needed?
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Re: Cases and Accessories.

[Chris Blouch]

I guess I was differentiating between this battery and the retina 
display laptops which have the battery glued in making it impossible to 
replace. iFixit documented this. Find step 21 where they attempt to 
remove the battery. I think it was about the 5th or 6th header on the page:


http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook+Pro+15-Inch+Retina+Display+Mid+2012+Teardown/9462/3

CB

On 3/25/13 3:17 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hi,

I personally would put the battery in the Macbook pro as non replaceable.  
Meaning, it wasn't designed for the average user to easily swap a battery out.  
Yes.  Technically, its doable but, not something the overwhelming majority of 
people would be comfortable doing.

Ricardo Walker
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On Mar 25, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:


I like backpacks for carrying my computer around. Lots of additional room for 
cables and such. I picked up one for $20 from Megamacs:

http://www.megamacs.com/index.php?action=frameview&id=3566552

The battery is replacable but requires removing a jillion tiny screws with 
special heads. Some people like doing this kind of thing others would rather 
pay a service. iFixIt has instructions and such here:

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+MacBook+Pro+15-Inch+Unibody+Late+2011+Battery/7511/1

CB

On 3/24/13 6:53 AM, anita wrote:

Hi List,
Haven't purchased a case for my MacBook Pro yet, but was wondering is there 
one specific one that's the best or most popular? The battery isn't replacable, 
right? Are sound schemes available, like in Windows, and if so, how do I bring 
that up?
Thanks,
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Keyboard Commander

[ROD SKENE]

Hi,
What functionality would I lose by using both right and left option keys for 
keyboard commander? I don't know of any keystrokes that only use the option key 
by itself as a modifier.
Thanks,
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Re: Keyboard Commander

[Red.Falcon]

Hi there!
One that might be effected is when you open iTunes and hold the right option 
key down that would give you the window to choose which library you would like 
to use!
That also was a problem setting up a commander for iTunes with just the right 
option key!
Sometimes when you went to open iTunes with your shortcut  the choose library 
window would open!
Instead of iTunes itself!
hth Colin

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> Hi,
> What functionality would I lose by using both right and left option keys for 
> keyboard commander? I don't know of any keystrokes that only use the option 
> key by itself as a modifier.
> Thanks,
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Re: Keyboard Commander

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Rod,

The Option key is needed for various special characters such as accented 
letters and various punctuation signs. For instance, the sign ≥ (Greater than 
or equal to) is Option-Period. …(ellipsis) is Option-Semicolon and so on.

Cheers,

Anne
 

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> keyboard commander? I don't know of any keystrokes that only use the option 
> key by itself as a modifier.
> Thanks,
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Re: Keyboard Commander

[ROD SKENE]

Thanks … I never knew about the ellipsis and other keystrokes. I just used 
period three times. Curious, Does it look the same? Also, I put in the ellipsis 
buy using the ignore next keystroke. (VO shift tilde) Worked like a charm.
Thanks again,
Rod
 
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> Hello Rod,
> 
> The Option key is needed for various special characters such as accented 
> letters and various punctuation signs. For instance, the sign ≥ (Greater than 
> or equal to) is Option-Period. …(ellipsis) is Option-Semicolon and so on.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
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>  
>> Hi,
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>> keyboard commander? I don't know of any keystrokes that only use the option 
>> key by itself as a modifier.
>> Thanks,
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Re: Keyboard Commander

[ROD SKENE]

Thanks, iTunes did just that the first time I opened it with option I. I would 
have not known why. Interestingly, it only did it the first time I used 
keyboard commander to open it.  second time it opened right up.
Thanks,
Rod

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> Hi there!
> One that might be effected is when you open iTunes and hold the right option 
> key down that would give you the window to choose which library you would 
> like to use!
> That also was a problem setting up a commander for iTunes with just the right 
> option key!
> Sometimes when you went to open iTunes with your shortcut  the choose library 
> window would open!
> Instead of iTunes itself!
> hth Colin
> 
> On 26 Mar 2013, at 15:17, ROD SKENE  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> What functionality would I lose by using both right and left option keys for 
>> keyboard commander? I don't know of any keystrokes that only use the option 
>> key by itself as a modifier.
>> Thanks,
>> Rod
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Re: Can anyone recommend a good inter point embosser?

[erik burggraaf]

Hi, i teach index, viewplus, and enabling.  overall, i prefer the enabling 
embossers.  i don't think I've ever seen one fail and the support has served me 
outstandingly well.  It connects to a mac using a dinex usb to parallel which 
comes from best buy.  I think you'd want the juliet line for your purposes.

I don't particularly like their keypad interface but it has versatility going 
for it at least.

Best,

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On 2013-03-26, at 10:08 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Shopping for a new embosser.  Just wondering what folks are using, and what 
> you might recommend.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Keyboard Commander

[ppowells09]

Hi folks, 
I hope this does not sound too elementary. On both my mac & ios devices, I hear 
voiceover say elypsis. What does it mean? Is there any way to turn it off if it 
is not needed? 
Thanks,

Pam Francis

On Mar 26, 2013, at 11:46 AM, ROD SKENE  wrote:

Thanks, iTunes did just that the first time I opened it with option I. I would 
have not known why. Interestingly, it only did it the first time I used 
keyboard commander to open it.  second time it opened right up.
Thanks,
Rod

On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:29 AM, Red.Falcon  
wrote:

> Hi there!
> One that might be effected is when you open iTunes and hold the right option 
> key down that would give you the window to choose which library you would 
> like to use!
> That also was a problem setting up a commander for iTunes with just the right 
> option key!
> Sometimes when you went to open iTunes with your shortcut  the choose library 
> window would open!
> Instead of iTunes itself!
> hth Colin
> 
> On 26 Mar 2013, at 15:17, ROD SKENE  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> What functionality would I lose by using both right and left option keys for 
>> keyboard commander? I don't know of any keystrokes that only use the option 
>> key by itself as a modifier.
>> Thanks,
>> Rod
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Re: Keyboard Commander

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Pam,

When a menu item ends with an ellipsis, it means that by selecting that option, 
a dialogue box will open. So it is in fact informative.

Cheers,

Anne


On 26 Mar 2013, at 19:05, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

> Hi folks, 
> I hope this does not sound too elementary. On both my mac & ios devices, I 
> hear voiceover say elypsis. What does it mean? Is there any way to turn it 
> off if it is not needed? 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: Keyboard Commander

[Danny Noonan]

There are some uses as have been mentioned but at least in my case they are so 
rare that I have keyboard commander set for both option keys and if I require 
the option key either pass through, turn off commander hotkey or VO f8 command 
8 and set it to left option temporarily. 

This suits me but won't be suitable for some people as we all have different 
ways of doing things. 

Hth
Danny


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> Hi,
> What functionality would I lose by using both right and left option keys for 
> keyboard commander? I don't know of any keystrokes that only use the option 
> key by itself as a modifier.
> Thanks,
> Rod
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Re: Wireless Keyboards.

[anita]

Set the brightness to zero then?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Blouch 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:10 AM
  Subject: Re: Wireless Keyboards.


  Main problem I've had with using Windows keyboards on the Mac has not been 
connecting them but that the option and command keys get flipped. Normally from 
left to right on laptops it is function, control,option (alt), command but on 
windows keyboards they probably won't have the Function key and the 
command/option keys switch places. I think there is a way to remap those keys 
so the go back to their normal places but I eventually got tired of it and went 
with an Apple keyboard. To be clear, non-laptop Apple keyboards also lack the 
function key since that is usually for doing things like change the speaker 
volume or dim the screen. Speaking of which, you can get a lot more battery 
life out of your laptop if you turn the brightness all the way down by hitting 
F1 about 16 times.

  CB


  On 3/25/13 10:04 PM, anita wrote:

Hi List,
I have a wireless that I'm using on several Windows computers. Wonder 
if this same model would be compatible with my  MacBrook, or will a specific 
model be needed?
Anita
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Transfering Files.

[anita]

Hi List,
How do I transfer content from Windows computers to my MacBook Pro? Spoke 
with  the accessibility department of   Apple this morning, but didn't 
understand how its done.
Thanks,
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ThunderBolt.

[anita]

Hi List,
Just remembered, I need ThunderBolt. Can it be downloaded? Is it 
accessible, or will sighted help be required to use it?
Anita

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Re: ThunderBolt.

[John Panarese]

Thunderbolt is a type of peripheral connection on the Mac.  You connect a 
display or an external drive via the Thunderbolt port on the system.


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Re: ThunderBolt.

[anita]

What does the port look like? Is it a USB
Anita?
  - Original Message - 
  From: John Panarese 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:59 PM
  Subject: Re: ThunderBolt.


  Thunderbolt is a type of peripheral connection on the Mac.  You connect a 
display or an external drive via the Thunderbolt port on the system.



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Hi List,
Just remembered, I need ThunderBolt. Can it be downloaded? Is it 
accessible, or will sighted help be required to use it?
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RE: Can anyone recommend a good inter point embosser?

[Scott Erichsen]

Hi Donna,

I'd recommend index I have the Everest V4 which works great! Got it in
December of 2012 and am very happy with it.
Happy to chat to you off list.
Cheers.
Scott


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Hi all,

Shopping for a new embosser.  Just wondering what folks are using, and what
you might recommend.
Cheers,
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Re: ThunderBolt.

[John Panarese]

It's next to the USB ports on a Mac Book Pro to the left of them if you 
have that side of the computer facing you directly.  You will need a 
Thunderbolt cable to connect to it or an adaptor for a Firewire or USB device 
to use it.


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On Mar 26, 2013, at 4:02 PM, "anita"  wrote:

> What does the port look like? Is it a USB
> Anita?
> - Original Message -
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:59 PM
> Subject: Re: ThunderBolt.
> 
> Thunderbolt is a type of peripheral connection on the Mac.  You connect a 
> display or an external drive via the Thunderbolt port on the system.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
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Re: Transfering Files.

[Traci]

For me, the easiest way was using an external hard drive, or if you have a 
large enough USB drive.

I know there are other ways, but when I was just beginning on the Mac, they 
made no sense to me.

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> How do I transfer content from Windows computers to my MacBook Pro? Spoke 
> with  the accessibility department of   Apple this morning, but didn't 
> understand how its done.
> Thanks,
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GarageBand help with recording more than one track with software instruments

[Jessica Carter]

> Hi All,
Recording one track goes well, but when adding another track, somehow the first 
track ends up being accidentally recorded over.
I hit new track, and give it a name.  Then I go into the browser and pick an 
instrument.
Then go over to the layout area and interact with the tracks.  Find the one to 
work on, and stop interacting with the tracks.
i must be leaving out a step or not doing something correctly, because the same 
thing keeps happening, with the previous track being recorded over.
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you in advance.
Have a good one, all.

Jess

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Help with RSS and Twitter feeds

[Brian Fischler]

Hey all,

It seems Twitter can't leave well enough alone, and I am surprised I
can't find the answer by searching for it. It seems my RSS Google
Reader stopped loading my Twitter feeds on March 21. This happened
once before as Twitter changed it's API and I had to go through and
resubscribe to the feeds through my RSS reader. I wanted to see if
anyone else found the solution and the new URL that you need to use to
get certain Twitter feeds in an RSS reader. Thanks

On a related note I heard that Google is killing Google Reader. Got to
love Google killing the one thing I use of theirs besides Gamil. Has
anyone found an accessible RSS subscription service to use in place of
Google Reader? Thanks

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Re: Transfering Files.

[Harry Hogue]

Hello,

An SD card or a USB drive, or external drive -- any of these are without doubt 
the easiest way.  Since e-mail is usually either through Pop3 or, more common 
these days by Imap, the e-mails are carried over in most cases.  I had all of 
my documents, etc. backed up to a thumb drive (also called a USB drive) and SD 
card, so all I had to do was copy them over, and it was really very easy.  The 
msot difficult part way installing VMWare Fusion to run Windows and the 
programs associated with the Windows side, which you probably won't have to 
worry about.

Thanks,

Harry
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> How do I transfer content from Windows computers to my MacBook Pro? Spoke 
> with  the accessibility department of   Apple this morning, but didn't 
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> Thanks,
> Anita 
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Re: Getting Started.

[Harry Hogue]

Hello,

The one feature I have often seen in Windows clients and is not present in 
Mail, although I dearly wish it were ,is the ability to schedule a message to 
send later.  This is useful if you are up at eight at night, three in the 
morning, etc. and want to have an e-mail schedule to send at 8:30 a.m., or have 
an e-mail send to someone when you know they will be in their office and likely 
to see it, etc.

Thanks,

Harry
On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:54 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi Anita
> Personally I think there about the same.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Mar 25, 2013, at 9:23 PM, anita  wrote:
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>> Hi,
>> Is Mail better than Windows mail clients I.E., OE?
>> Anita
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Eugenia Firth
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 9:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: Getting Started.
>> 
>> Hi there
>> Basically, you should be okay now. The only thing you need now is to get 
>> your end email:. I found it to be a pretty easy process.
>> You might try this. Press command and thespacebar.You should hear voiceover 
>> say spotlight. Type in mail. Press enter. You will probably get the message 
>> about setting it up. I can't remember exactly what from there but I think 
>> you can follow the prompts. If you get into trouble type  command q to quit 
>> in any Macintosh program.
>> Regards,
>> Gigi 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 25, 2013, at 7:45 PM, anita  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi List,
>>> After spending a considerable amount of time on the phone with Apple's 
>>> outstanding accessibility department, my MacBook Pro has finally been 
>>> registered. Not sure what the next step would be: perhaps setting up e-mail 
>>> accounts and  my browser? Is there anything else that needs to be changed 
>>> in Accessibility  Settings, to make VO read better, or anything that I need 
>>> to disable?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Anita
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Re: Can anyone recommend a good inter point embosser?

[Marianne Denning]

I recommend the Juliet Pro 60.


Sent from my iPhone

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> 
> Shopping for a new embosser.  Just wondering what folks are using, and what 
> you might recommend.
> Cheers,
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Re: emulating control click

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Yuma,

I have found bringing the mouse with VO-CMD+F5 and then holding down the 
control key while clicking the track pad works well.

Thanks,

Harry

On Mar 26, 2013, at 3:46 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux  wrote:

> Yep, i did think ctrl option shift m does that. I'll try with the mouse click 
> on the trackpad itself.
> 
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> On 26/03/2013, at 7:16 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
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>> Hello Yuma,
>> 
>> What do you mean by emulating a Control-Click? You can do a Control-Click by 
>> bringing the mouse to where you want to do this and holding down the Control 
>> key while clicking with trackpad or mouse. Also, VO-Shift-m should do the 
>> same thing but doesn't always work.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 26 Mar 2013, at 09:42, Yuma Antoine Decaux  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I'm digging into file maker pro for my information systems course, and 
>>> wanted to know if anyone here can emulate a control mouse click?
>>> 
>>> It seems fairly straight forward, but it's not. 
>>> 
>>> Any help greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Yuma 
>>> 
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Re: Cases and Accessories.

[Ricardo Walker]

Oh!

Yes.  I see what you mean.  Sorry.  I thought you were just talking about MBPs 
in general made from 2009 and later.

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On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> I guess I was differentiating between this battery and the retina display 
> laptops which have the battery glued in making it impossible to replace. 
> iFixit documented this. Find step 21 where they attempt to remove the 
> battery. I think it was about the 5th or 6th header on the page:
> 
> http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook+Pro+15-Inch+Retina+Display+Mid+2012+Teardown/9462/3
> 
> CB
> 
> On 3/25/13 3:17 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I personally would put the battery in the Macbook pro as non replaceable.  
>> Meaning, it wasn't designed for the average user to easily swap a battery 
>> out.  Yes.  Technically, its doable but, not something the overwhelming 
>> majority of people would be comfortable doing.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
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>> On Mar 25, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
>> 
>>> I like backpacks for carrying my computer around. Lots of additional room 
>>> for cables and such. I picked up one for $20 from Megamacs:
>>> 
>>> http://www.megamacs.com/index.php?action=frameview&id=3566552
>>> 
>>> The battery is replacable but requires removing a jillion tiny screws with 
>>> special heads. Some people like doing this kind of thing others would 
>>> rather pay a service. iFixIt has instructions and such here:
>>> 
>>> http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing+MacBook+Pro+15-Inch+Unibody+Late+2011+Battery/7511/1
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
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 Hi List,
Haven't purchased a case for my MacBook Pro yet, but was wondering is 
 there one specific one that's the best or most popular? The battery isn't 
 replacable, right? Are sound schemes available, like in Windows, and if 
 so, how do I bring that up?
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Re: Keyboard Commander

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

If you are using your Mac in english alone, probably nothing.

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On Mar 26, 2013, at 11:17 AM, ROD SKENE  wrote:

> Hi,
> What functionality would I lose by using both right and left option keys for 
> keyboard commander? I don't know of any keystrokes that only use the option 
> key by itself as a modifier.
> Thanks,
> Rod
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Re: Getting Started.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I don't doubt this is useful but, wouldn't they see it regardless of when the 
message was sent so long as they check their e-mail fairly frequently?

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On Mar 26, 2013, at 5:56 PM, Harry Hogue  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> The one feature I have often seen in Windows clients and is not present in 
> Mail, although I dearly wish it were ,is the ability to schedule a message to 
> send later.  This is useful if you are up at eight at night, three in the 
> morning, etc. and want to have an e-mail schedule to send at 8:30 a.m., or 
> have an e-mail send to someone when you know they will be in their office and 
> likely to see it, etc.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Harry
> On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:54 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Anita
>> Personally I think there about the same.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 25, 2013, at 9:23 PM, anita  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Is Mail better than Windows mail clients I.E., OE?
>>> Anita
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Eugenia Firth
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 9:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Getting Started.
>>> 
>>> Hi there
>>> Basically, you should be okay now. The only thing you need now is to get 
>>> your end email:. I found it to be a pretty easy process.
>>> You might try this. Press command and thespacebar.You should hear voiceover 
>>> say spotlight. Type in mail. Press enter. You will probably get the message 
>>> about setting it up. I can't remember exactly what from there but I think 
>>> you can follow the prompts. If you get into trouble type  command q to quit 
>>> in any Macintosh program.
>>> Regards,
>>> Gigi 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Mar 25, 2013, at 7:45 PM, anita  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi List,
 After spending a considerable amount of time on the phone with Apple's 
 outstanding accessibility department, my MacBook Pro has finally been 
 registered. Not sure what the next step would be: perhaps setting up 
 e-mail accounts and  my browser? Is there anything else that needs to be 
 changed in Accessibility  Settings, to make VO read better, or anything 
 that I need to disable?
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Opening Web Sites.

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Hi List,
What's the command for opening web pages in Safari?
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Re: GarageBand help with recording more than one track with software instruments

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Hello,

It is not necessary to interact with the arrange layout area.  You can just use 
the up/down arrows to move from track to track.  Most of the time, Voiceover 
will not announce what track you are on.  I guess if you have like 25 tracks, 
this could be an issue but, I have found that most people using Garageband 
don't have that many tracks in a given project.  Honestly, I hardly ever 
interact with the arrange layout area unless I need to manipulate a region, or, 
adjust panning or volume level for a track.  If you haven't recorded anything 
on the track yet, you can just play the instrument to make sure your on the 
correct track.  or, solo the track with the letter S to see what has been 
recorded on the track so far.

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On Mar 26, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Jessica Carter  wrote:

>> Hi All,
> Recording one track goes well, but when adding another track, somehow the 
> first track ends up being accidentally recorded over.
> I hit new track, and give it a name.  Then I go into the browser and pick an 
> instrument.
> Then go over to the layout area and interact with the tracks.  Find the one 
> to work on, and stop interacting with the tracks.
> i must be leaving out a step or not doing something correctly, because the 
> same thing keeps happening, with the previous track being recorded over.
> Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you in advance.
> Have a good one, all.
> 
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Re: Opening Web Sites.

[Ray Foret Jr]

cmd l then enter the URL then press return.


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!
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> What's the command for opening web pages in Safari?
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Night Owl Twitter Client Keyboard Shortcut Help

[Brian Fischler]

Hey all,

Sorry if this has been covered. I just notice Night Owl, pardon my
spelling Yourufiroo changed all of the keyboard shortcuts, so strange
as now I have to turn the caps lock on to use any of them. Is there
any way around this or a way to set your own defaults? I looked in the
preferences and couldn't find anything and tried setting one of my own
shortcuts in system information for the program but that didn't work
either. Anyone figure anything out? Thanks

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Re: emulating control click

[Chris Gilland]

Are you using a full sized keyboard with a numpad?  If so, I have an idea.
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  Subject: emulating control click


  Hi all,


  I'm digging into file maker pro for my information systems course, and wanted 
to know if anyone here can emulate a control mouse click?


  It seems fairly straight forward, but it's not. 


  Any help greatly appreciated.


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Re: emulating control click

[Chris Gilland]

Ann,

the issue is, if you don't have a stationary mouse, like a trackpad, or a 
magic/mighty mouse etc, the issue is when you go to put your hand on the mouse, 
to then click it, just the ever so slightest of movement, could accidentally 
take you off the item you need to control click.  Frankly, it sounds like I'm 
making it harder than I really am, but trust me.  Try it.  You'll see it 
becomes extremely annoying trying to keep the thing totally still while 
clicking.

Again though, as I said, if you have a full keyboard with a numpad, then let me 
know, as I may have a perfectly ideal sollution.

Chris.

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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 5:16 AM
  Subject: Re: emulating control click


  Hello Yuma,


  What do you mean by emulating a Control-Click? You can do a Control-Click by 
bringing the mouse to where you want to do this and holding down the Control 
key while clicking with trackpad or mouse. Also, VO-Shift-m should do the same 
thing but doesn't always work.


  Cheers,


  Anne




  On 26 Mar 2013, at 09:42, Yuma Antoine Decaux  wrote:


Hi all,


I'm digging into file maker pro for my information systems course, and 
wanted to know if anyone here can emulate a control mouse click?


It seems fairly straight forward, but it's not. 


Any help greatly appreciated.


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Re: Keyboard Commander

[Chris Gilland]

I don't think you can.

I think it has to be one or the other.  You can't use both.
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To: 
Cc: "ROD SKENE" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 11:17 AM
Subject: Keyboard Commander



Hi,
What functionality would I lose by using both right and left option keys 
for keyboard commander? I don't know of any keystrokes that only use the 
option key by itself as a modifier.

Thanks,
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Re: Keyboard Commander

[John Panarese]

   Yes, you have to pick one or the other.  They both can't be used 
simultaneously.  There is a popup button to choose either option.


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On Mar 26, 2013, at 7:02 PM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:

> I don't think you can.
> 
> I think it has to be one or the other.  You can't use both.
> - Original Message - From: "ROD SKENE" 
> To: 
> Cc: "ROD SKENE" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 11:17 AM
> Subject: Keyboard Commander
> 
> 
>> Hi,
>> What functionality would I lose by using both right and left option keys for 
>> keyboard commander? I don't know of any keystrokes that only use the option 
>> key by itself as a modifier.
>> Thanks,
>> Rod
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Re: Keyboard Commander

[Mark Baxter]

I might just add here that simple F8 (or Function F8, depending) will open 
Itunes, so there should not need to be a reason to use up a shortcut key on it 
with Commander, and that would also obviate the library opening confusion.


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Re: Keyboard Commander

[Chris Gilland]

elypsis is 3 periods back to back.

So, dot dot dot, hope that answers your question.  Hint, that dot dot dot 
had I wrote that like, this...  that period period period makes an elypsis.


Chris.

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From: 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: Keyboard Commander



Hi folks,
I hope this does not sound too elementary. On both my mac & ios devices, I 
hear voiceover say elypsis. What does it mean? Is there any way to turn it 
off if it is not needed?

Thanks,

Pam Francis

On Mar 26, 2013, at 11:46 AM, ROD SKENE  wrote:

Thanks, iTunes did just that the first time I opened it with option I. I 
would have not known why. Interestingly, it only did it the first time I 
used keyboard commander to open it.  second time it opened right up.

Thanks,
Rod

On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:29 AM, Red.Falcon 
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Hi there!
One that might be effected is when you open iTunes and hold the right 
option key down that would give you the window to choose which library 
you would like to use!
That also was a problem setting up a commander for iTunes with just the 
right option key!
Sometimes when you went to open iTunes with your shortcut  the choose 
library window would open!

Instead of iTunes itself!
hth Colin

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Hi,
What functionality would I lose by using both right and left option keys 
for keyboard commander? I don't know of any keystrokes that only use the 
option key by itself as a modifier.

Thanks,
Rod

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Re: Keyboard Commander

[Chris Gilland]

I think she meant specifically what an elypsis was, and how to make it/what 
it looked like visually, more than what they meant.
- Original Message - 
From: "Anne Robertson" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: Keyboard Commander



Hello Pam,

When a menu item ends with an ellipsis, it means that by selecting that 
option, a dialogue box will open. So it is in fact informative.


Cheers,

Anne


On 26 Mar 2013, at 19:05, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:


Hi folks,
I hope this does not sound too elementary. On both my mac & ios devices, 
I hear voiceover say elypsis. What does it mean? Is there any way to turn 
it off if it is not needed?

Thanks,

Pam Francis


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Re: Keyboard Commander

[Chris Gilland]

So you can set both keys?

OK, I need to look at that screen again more closely then  apparently, as I 
was under the impression that you only could do one or the other, but not 
both.


Chris.

- Original Message - 
From: "Danny Noonan" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: Keyboard Commander


There are some uses as have been mentioned but at least in my case they are 
so rare that I have keyboard commander set for both option keys and if I 
require the option key either pass through, turn off commander hotkey or VO 
f8 command 8 and set it to left option temporarily.


This suits me but won't be suitable for some people as we all have different 
ways of doing things.


Hth
Danny


Sent from my iPhone

On 27/03/2013, at 2:17 AM, ROD SKENE  wrote:


Hi,
What functionality would I lose by using both right and left option keys 
for keyboard commander? I don't know of any keystrokes that only use the 
option key by itself as a modifier.

Thanks,
Rod

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Re: Opening Web Sites.

[Chris Gilland]

command+D.  Type the URL, then hit return.

Chris.

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  Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:39 PM
  Subject: Opening Web Sites.


  Hi List,
  What's the command for opening web pages in Safari?
  Anita

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Re: Night Owl Twitter Client Keyboard Shortcut Help

[Chris Gilland]

Do you mean it misteriously changed your keyboard commands, or do you mean 
the devs took it upon themselves to change the keystrokes?  God I hoep the 
former!  BTW, just FYI, it's...


capital Y, o, r, u, Capital F, u, k, u, r, o, u.

YoruFukurou.

It's Japanese for Night Owl, in case anyone wonders where that reference 
comes from.  Not sure how to get you the exact kanji, sorry.


Chris.
- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Fischler" 

To: "MacVisionaries" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:54 PM
Subject: Night Owl Twitter Client Keyboard Shortcut Help



Hey all,

Sorry if this has been covered. I just notice Night Owl, pardon my
spelling Yourufiroo changed all of the keyboard shortcuts, so strange
as now I have to turn the caps lock on to use any of them. Is there
any way around this or a way to set your own defaults? I looked in the
preferences and couldn't find anything and tried setting one of my own
shortcuts in system information for the program but that didn't work
either. Anyone figure anything out? Thanks

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RE: Thunderbolt.

[Jesus Garcia]

It is a small square looking port, if your mac book pro is anything like
mine it will be on the left side of the machine moving from front to back
you will have an external jack for headphones or for external speakers, I
also think you may have an external microphone jack then you will have the
SD card slot, followed by two USB ports then followed by the thunder bolt
port.

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of anita
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 16:02
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ThunderBolt.

 

What does the port look like? Is it a USB

Anita?

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:59 PM

Subject: Re: ThunderBolt.

 

Thunderbolt is a type of peripheral connection on the Mac.  You connect
a display or an external drive via the Thunderbolt port on the system. 

 


Take Care

 

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Hi List,

Just remembered, I need ThunderBolt. Can it be downloaded? Is it
accessible, or will sighted help be required to use it?

Anita

 

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Re: Opening Web Sites.

[Ray Foret Jr]

Uh, no.  Command+d adds a book mark.  I tell you, it's command+l.


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On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:11 PM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:

> command+D.  Type the URL, then hit return.
>  
> Chris.
>  
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:39 PM
> Subject: Opening Web Sites.
> 
> Hi List,
> What's the command for opening web pages in Safari?
> Anita
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Re: Opening Web Sites.

[anita]

CND for command? Not sure what you mean.
Anita
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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:46 PM
  Subject: Re: Opening Web Sites.


  cmd l then enter the URL then press return.




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Hi List,
What's the command for opening web pages in Safari?
Anita


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Re: Transfering Files.

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

There is also the Migration Assistant that is found within the Utilities folder 
under the Go menu.  Once you're in the Migration Assistant, make sure to read 
every screen and follow the instructions.  There is specifically an option to 
copy items from a Windows computer.  Or, of course, use the methods suggested 
in earlier posts that will work just fine as well.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-03-26, at 3:53 PM, Harry Hogue  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> An SD card or a USB drive, or external drive -- any of these are without 
> doubt the easiest way.  Since e-mail is usually either through Pop3 or, more 
> common these days by Imap, the e-mails are carried over in most cases.  I had 
> all of my documents, etc. backed up to a thumb drive (also called a USB 
> drive) and SD card, so all I had to do was copy them over, and it was really 
> very easy.  The msot difficult part way installing VMWare Fusion to run 
> Windows and the programs associated with the Windows side, which you probably 
> won't have to worry about.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Harry
> On Mar 26, 2013, at 1:51 PM, anita  wrote:
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>> Hi List,
>> How do I transfer content from Windows computers to my MacBook Pro? 
>> Spoke with  the accessibility department of   Apple this morning, but didn't 
>> understand how its done.
>> Thanks,
>> Anita 
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Re: Transfering Files.

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi Anita
You probably will also want  to get a Time  machine drive. That's just a 
regular drive that you designate as a Time Machine Drive.  That let you backup 
your computer. Apple recommended that I get a 1 TB drive, even though I really 
didn't need one that big.  He said if I did it, I wouldn't need another one for 
a long time to come.
Regards,
Gigi

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> Hello,
> 
> An SD card or a USB drive, or external drive -- any of these are without 
> doubt the easiest way.  Since e-mail is usually either through Pop3 or, more 
> common these days by Imap, the e-mails are carried over in most cases.  I had 
> all of my documents, etc. backed up to a thumb drive (also called a USB 
> drive) and SD card, so all I had to do was copy them over, and it was really 
> very easy.  The msot difficult part way installing VMWare Fusion to run 
> Windows and the programs associated with the Windows side, which you probably 
> won't have to worry about.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Harry
> On Mar 26, 2013, at 1:51 PM, anita  wrote:
> 
>> Hi List,
>> How do I transfer content from Windows computers to my MacBook Pro? 
>> Spoke with  the accessibility department of   Apple this morning, but didn't 
>> understand how its done.
>> Thanks,
>> Anita 
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Re: Keyboard Commander

[John Panarese]

   Wow, yes.  You can now use both option keys.  That is pretty cool.


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On Mar 26, 2013, at 7:08 PM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:

> So you can set both keys?
> 
> OK, I need to look at that screen again more closely then  apparently, as I 
> was under the impression that you only could do one or the other, but not 
> both.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Danny Noonan" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Keyboard Commander
> 
> 
> There are some uses as have been mentioned but at least in my case they are 
> so rare that I have keyboard commander set for both option keys and if I 
> require the option key either pass through, turn off commander hotkey or VO 
> f8 command 8 and set it to left option temporarily.
> 
> This suits me but won't be suitable for some people as we all have different 
> ways of doing things.
> 
> Hth
> Danny
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 27/03/2013, at 2:17 AM, ROD SKENE  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> What functionality would I lose by using both right and left option keys for 
>> keyboard commander? I don't know of any keystrokes that only use the option 
>> key by itself as a modifier.
>> Thanks,
>> Rod
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Re:Link Question.

[anita]

Hi List,
How do I get a list of links in Sarafi?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ray Foret Jr 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:29 PM
  Subject: Re: Opening Web Sites.


  Uh, no.  Command+d adds a book mark.  I tell you, it's command+l.




  Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
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  On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:11 PM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:


command+D.  Type the URL, then hit return.

Chris.

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  Subject: Opening Web Sites.


  Hi List,
  What's the command for opening web pages in Safari?
  Anita


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Re: CD Slots.

[anita]

Hi,
You alos brought a what as well?
Anita
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  Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 8:23 AM
  Subject: Re: CD Slots.


  Hi Anita
  I had to get my extra memory separate. Admittedly, I did this about a year 
after I had my map, but I upgraded my MacBook Pro so that I had 8 GB. I found 
that my cat numbers program works better now That I did that. I was told that 
the only time Apple puts in the memory is if you buy your computer on line and 
you get it at the same time. I had to go to Micro Center and have the memory 
installed. I also bought a Variz well.
  Regards,
  Gigi

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Mar 25, 2013, at 3:45 AM, anita  wrote:


Hi List,
I think someone mentioned that the CD slot is being faced out, right? 
Why is this? Isn't it faster than having to connect a CD drive? I bought a 
drive, instead of going with a slot. Not sure if I did the right thing or not. 
Is upgradeable memory a standard option, or does it need to be a separate 
purchase?
Thanks,
Anita

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Mailing Labels Suggestions.

[Emilio Hernandez]

Hello everyone,

I find that the standard 10 X 1/2  envelope margins need to be adjusted because 
the sent from address is roughly an inch low.
This got me thinking…so I am curious what mailing labels are users enjoying 
when printing out address labels?
This would need to be something I could use for both address sections of the 
envelope because I have some cases where the non-standard 9 x 1/2 by 11 manilla 
 envelopes will not fit into my label feed.

Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

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Re: Link Question.

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

VO-u brings up the Web Router.  Use your left and right arrows to access the 
various web elements including links.  Once you're in the category you wish, 
such as Links, you can either arrow up and down the list or enter the first 
couple letters of the link you wish to go to.  If you have narrowed the list 
too far, simply press the Delete/Back Space key to bring the list back to its 
full size.  Press return and you'll jump to the link you've chosen.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-03-26, at 6:18 PM, anita  wrote:

> Hi List,
> How do I get a list of links in Sarafi?
> - Original Message -
> From: Ray Foret Jr
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Opening Web Sites.
> 
> Uh, no.  Command+d adds a book mark.  I tell you, it's command+l.
> 
> 
> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> 
> On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:11 PM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:
> 
>> command+D.  Type the URL, then hit return.
>>  
>> Chris.
>>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: anita
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:39 PM
>> Subject: Opening Web Sites.
>> 
>> Hi List,
>> What's the command for opening web pages in Safari?
>> Anita
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Re: Opening Web Sites.

[Ray Foret Jr]

The key next to the space bar, as has been said before.


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
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On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:36 PM, "anita"  wrote:

> CND for command? Not sure what you mean.
> Anita
> - Original Message -
> From: Ray Foret Jr
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Opening Web Sites.
> 
> cmd l then enter the URL then press return.
> 
> 
> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> 
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>> Hi List,
>> What's the command for opening web pages in Safari?
>> Anita
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Re: emulating control click

[Esther]

Hello Yuma,

Just to add to Anne's comments, Control-Click should always work, while the 
software emulation of VO-Shift-m sometimes may not.  The only issue you might 
run into with Control-Click is if your mouse cursor is not focused in the 
correct location.  For example, I can point you to some examples of web pages 
where the designers have misused the HTML coding to arrange the visual 
placement of links.  (When you query the size of the VoiceOver cursor, it takes 
up a quarter or a third of the width of the web page, even though it's meant to 
focus on one or two words, so apart from failing tests of being properly coded, 
using VoiceOver to move to the link and Control-Click or VO-Shift-m doesn't 
work because you're nowhere near the actual link.)

Similarly, clicking with the trackpad or mouse should always work for "click", 
while occasionally emulated clicks with VO-Shift-space do not.  Using the mouse 
keys equivalent (where you click by pressing the "5" on the numeric keypad or 
the "i" key on the embedded numeric keypad position for a laptop) should also 
always work as a click.  (Of course, turning mouse keys on is a solution for 
difficulties in using the keyboard or trackpad, and is separate from your 
VoiceOver options.)

HTH. Cheers,  
Esther
 
On 25 Mar 2013, at 23:16, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Yuma,
> 
> What do you mean by emulating a Control-Click? You can do a Control-Click by 
> bringing the mouse to where you want to do this and holding down the Control 
> key while clicking with trackpad or mouse. Also, VO-Shift-m should do the 
> same thing but doesn't always work.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 26 Mar 2013, at 09:42, Yuma Antoine Decaux  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm digging into file maker pro for my information systems course, and 
>> wanted to know if anyone here can emulate a control mouse click?
>> 
>> It seems fairly straight forward, but it's not. 
>> 
>> Any help greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Yuma 
>> 
>> 

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Re: Wireless Keyboards.

[Chris Blouch]

Right. That turns off the backlight which saves a bunch of power. F2 to 
bring it back up again.


CB

On 3/26/13 3:42 PM, anita wrote:

Set the brightness to zero then?

- Original Message -
*From:* Chris Blouch 
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

*Sent:* Tuesday, March 26, 2013 10:10 AM
*Subject:* Re: Wireless Keyboards.

Main problem I've had with using Windows keyboards on the Mac has
not been connecting them but that the option and command keys get
flipped. Normally from left to right on laptops it is function,
control,option (alt), command but on windows keyboards they
probably won't have the Function key and the command/option keys
switch places. I think there is a way to remap those keys so the
go back to their normal places but I eventually got tired of it
and went with an Apple keyboard. To be clear, non-laptop Apple
keyboards also lack the function key since that is usually for
doing things like change the speaker volume or dim the screen.
Speaking of which, you can get a lot more battery life out of your
laptop if you turn the brightness all the way down by hitting F1
about 16 times.

CB

On 3/25/13 10:04 PM, anita wrote:

Hi List,
I have a wireless that I'm using on several Windows
computers. Wonder if this same model would be compatible with my 
MacBrook, or will a specific model be needed?

Anita
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Re: Elypsis

[ppowells09]

Hi,
Until I got my mac, I never heard my screen reader actually say elypsis. I had 
no idea what it was or what I could do to turn it off as it is annoying. I am 
still not sure what its purpose is other than your explanations. It sounds as 
if it is synonymous with etc.

Pam Francis

On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:07 PM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:

I think she meant specifically what an elypsis was, and how to make it/what it 
looked like visually, more than what they meant.
- Original Message - From: "Anne Robertson" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: Keyboard Commander


> Hello Pam,
> 
> When a menu item ends with an ellipsis, it means that by selecting that 
> option, a dialogue box will open. So it is in fact informative.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 26 Mar 2013, at 19:05, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> I hope this does not sound too elementary. On both my mac & ios devices, I 
>> hear voiceover say elypsis. What does it mean? Is there any way to turn it 
>> off if it is not needed?
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Pam Francis
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Re: Elypsis

[Chris Blouch]

I think it's more like "continues." If I were quoting some speech I 
might have "Four score and seven years ago…" with the ellipsis to let 
you know there is more. Likewise a menubar item like "Preferences…" has 
the ellipsis to let you know that you're not going to get immediate 
action because there is more interaction to be presented in a dialog.


CB

On 3/26/13 10:30 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

Hi,
Until I got my mac, I never heard my screen reader actually say elypsis. I had 
no idea what it was or what I could do to turn it off as it is annoying. I am 
still not sure what its purpose is other than your explanations. It sounds as 
if it is synonymous with etc.

Pam Francis

On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:07 PM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:

I think she meant specifically what an elypsis was, and how to make it/what it 
looked like visually, more than what they meant.
- Original Message - From: "Anne Robertson" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: Keyboard Commander



Hello Pam,

When a menu item ends with an ellipsis, it means that by selecting that option, 
a dialogue box will open. So it is in fact informative.

Cheers,

Anne


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Hi folks,
I hope this does not sound too elementary. On both my mac & ios devices, I hear 
voiceover say elypsis. What does it mean? Is there any way to turn it off if it is 
not needed?
Thanks,

Pam Francis

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Re: Elypsis

[Esther]

Hi,

In writing, an ellipsis is used as an "an intentional omission".  The
detailed text can be omitted either for reasons similar to the one Pam
gives, where the writer doesn't want to go on listing details, or
because the content of the quoted text is familiar, and the writer
doesn't want to quote it in its entirety, such as CB's example in
giving the opening words of the Gettysburg address.  It can have the
sense that Chris uses, of there being more content that follows (which
for reasons of length are not described).  In written essays,
articles, or reviews, you might use an ellipsis where you're quoting a
source, but are omitting parts that are secondary to the main point
being made.

You can't turn this feature off in VoiceOver, because it's giving you
information that is part of the menu options, but you can always press
the Control key to keep VoiceOver from announcing the whole phrase.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther


On Mar 26, 4:34 pm, Chris Blouch  wrote:
> I think it's more like "continues." If I were quoting some speech I
> might have "Four score and seven years ago…" with the ellipsis to let
> you know there is more. Likewise a menubar item like "Preferences…" has
> the ellipsis to let you know that you're not going to get immediate
> action because there is more interaction to be presented in a dialog.
>
> CB
>
> On 3/26/13 10:30 PM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi,
> > Until I got my mac, I never heard my screen reader actually say elypsis. I 
> > had no idea what it was or what I could do to turn it off as it is 
> > annoying. I am still not sure what its purpose is other than your 
> > explanations. It sounds as if it is synonymous with etc.
>
> > Pam Francis
>
> > On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:07 PM, "Chris Gilland"  wrote:
>
> > I think she meant specifically what an elypsis was, and how to make it/what 
> > it looked like visually, more than what they meant.
> > - Original Message - From: "Anne Robertson" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 2:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: Keyboard Commander
>
> >> Hello Pam,
>
> >> When a menu item ends with an ellipsis, it means that by selecting that 
> >> option, a dialogue box will open. So it is in fact informative.
>
> >> Cheers,
>
> >> Anne
>
> >> On 26 Mar 2013, at 19:05, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
>
> >>> Hi folks,
> >>> I hope this does not sound too elementary. On both my mac & ios devices, 
> >>> I hear voiceover say elypsis. What does it mean? Is there any way to turn 
> >>> it off if it is not needed?
> >>> Thanks,
>
> >>> Pam Francis

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converting system report files

[Tammy]

Hi,

Is there a way to save a system report file as something other then the spx 
file that it defaults to?  I’m trying to save it as an html file, but when I 
changed the extention it gave me a message about how I can’t save it that way.  
But windows won’t read the file at all.  

Thanks,

Tammy 

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Re: Opening Web Sites.

[anita]

OK, didn't know. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ray Foret Jr 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 9:37 PM
  Subject: Re: Opening Web Sites.


  The key next to the space bar, as has been said before.




  Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!
  Sincerely,
  The Constantly Barefooted Ray
  Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!


  On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:36 PM, "anita"  wrote:


CND for command? Not sure what you mean.
Anita
  - Original Message -
  From: Ray Foret Jr
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:46 PM
  Subject: Re: Opening Web Sites.


  cmd l then enter the URL then press return.




  Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!
  Sincerely,
  The Constantly Barefooted Ray
  Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!


  On Mar 26, 2013, at 5:39 PM, "anita"  wrote:


Hi List,
What's the command for opening web pages in Safari?
Anita


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The Rotor Option.

[anita]

Hi List,
Is there a rotor optionon MacBook Pros, and if so, how do I access it?
 

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Re: Opening Web Sites.

[Tim Kilburn]

Anita,

I suggest that you take some time with the Keyboard Practice option within 
VoiceOver.  Press VO-k to start Keyboard Help then press the various keys 
around the keyboard and VO will announce what key you've pressed.  This will 
tell you where things like the cmd (command) key are, the Option key, other 
modifiers as well as function keys.  In fact, Keyboard Help can also assist you 
with becoming familiar with some basic VoiceOver commands.  If you hold down 
the VO keys (Control and Option) then press, for example, the letter "l", Vo 
will announce "Read by Line".  Therefore, you can learn that VO-l will read the 
text one line at a time.  Press other keys while the VO keys are down to learn 
their functions as well.  Press ESC (Escape) to get out of Keyboard Help.

Another thing to note that may help you some, is that the cmd (command) key or 
the combination of command and option keys are used primarily within the MacOS 
as keyboard shortcuts and really have nothing to do with VO.  Any sighted user 
can use these same key combinations to perform the desired action whether VO is 
on or off.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-03-26, at 7:37 PM, Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

> The key next to the space bar, as has been said before.
> 
> 
> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> 
> On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:36 PM, "anita"  wrote:
> 
>> CND for command? Not sure what you mean.
>> Anita
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Ray Foret Jr
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: Opening Web Sites.
>> 
>> cmd l then enter the URL then press return.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>> 
>> On Mar 26, 2013, at 5:39 PM, "anita"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi List,
>>> What's the command for opening web pages in Safari?
>>> Anita
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Re: Night Owl Twitter Client Keyboard Shortcut Help

[Brian Fischler]

I believe the dev changed it in the latest update, unless I some how
did something I am not aware of. For example it used to be to compose
a new tweet you just hit command N now it is command capital N, so if
you hit command N with the caps lock off nothing will happen even if
you try command shift N nothing happens you have to have caps lock on
and hit command N to compose the tweet. Maybe I did something by
accident as I figured the boards would be all over this change. Any
help is greatly appreciated

On Mar 26, 6:54 pm, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Sorry if this has been covered. I just notice Night Owl, pardon my
> spelling Yourufiroo changed all of the keyboard shortcuts, so strange
> as now I have to turn the caps lock on to use any of them. Is there
> any way around this or a way to set your own defaults? I looked in the
> preferences and couldn't find anything and tried setting one of my own
> shortcuts in system information for the program but that didn't work
> either. Anyone figure anything out? Thanks

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Re: The Rotor Option.

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

You must have the TrackPad commander active to access the Rotor controls.  Try 
turning it on by holding down the VO keys then twisting clockwise (to the 
right) with two fingers on your Trackpad.  Holding down the VO keys and 
twisting counter-clockwise (to the left) will turn the Trackpad commander off.  
When the Trackpad Commander is active, do a two finger twist clockwise to 
activate the Rotor then swipe up or down with one finger to change controls 
just like within iOS.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-03-26, at 10:18 PM, anita  wrote:

> Hi List,
> Is there a rotor optionon MacBook Pros, and if so, how do I access it?
>  
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Re: Night Owl Twitter Client Keyboard Shortcut Help

[Brian Fischler]

Hey, I just deleted the program and reinstalled it so now it is
working fine. So strange that the keyboard shortcuts all changed to
capital letters and the menu was even reading them that way, not sure
what I did but everything is working fine now.

On Mar 26, 6:54 pm, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Sorry if this has been covered. I just notice Night Owl, pardon my
> spelling Yourufiroo changed all of the keyboard shortcuts, so strange
> as now I have to turn the caps lock on to use any of them. Is there
> any way around this or a way to set your own defaults? I looked in the
> preferences and couldn't find anything and tried setting one of my own
> shortcuts in system information for the program but that didn't work
> either. Anyone figure anything out? Thanks

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Re: The Rotor Option.

[Anne Robertson]

The rotor option is also available in Quick Nav. Just press the left and up 
arrows together or the right and up arrows and with every press, you'll get 
another option for controlling the function of the up and down arrows. These 
options vary according to the situation. So, in a text document, you'll have 
the text navigation options such as word, sentence, paragraph, etc. In Safari, 
you'll have links, headings, form controls, etc.

Cheers,

Anne

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Re: Wireless Keyboards.

[Johnny Angel!]

Hi all,

Does anyone know if it is possible to remap a keyboard like the I-Connex 
folding keyboard to use with an IPhone?
On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:31 AM, Donovan Osborn  wrote:

> Yes there is a way to remap them if this is the case. Go to System properties 
> then to keyboards then  to the keyboard tab
> 
> There is a button called modifier keys press that and under the command and 
> option keys put the opposite action.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Donovan Osborn
> donovan303...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 26, 2013, at 7:10 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:
> 
>> Main problem I've had with using Windows keyboards on the Mac has not been 
>> connecting them but that the option and command keys get flipped. Normally 
>> from left to right on laptops it is function, control,option (alt), command 
>> but on windows keyboards they probably won't have the Function key and the 
>> command/option keys switch places. I think there is a way to remap those 
>> keys so the go back to their normal places but I eventually got tired of it 
>> and went with an Apple keyboard. To be clear, non-laptop Apple keyboards 
>> also lack the function key since that is usually for doing things like 
>> change the speaker volume or dim the screen. Speaking of which, you can get 
>> a lot more battery life out of your laptop if you turn the brightness all 
>> the way down by hitting F1 about 16 times.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 3/25/13 10:04 PM, anita wrote:
>>> Hi List,
>>> I have a wireless that I'm using on several Windows computers. Wonder 
>>> if this same model would be compatible with my  MacBrook, or will a 
>>> specific model be needed?
>>> Anita
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