Re: context key

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Just to add, you might have to use the FN key plus shift F10 to bring up the 
context menu.

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On Feb 10, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Mauricio Almeida  
wrote:

> hello there,
> 
> please press shift f10 and you'll have it.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> mauricio
> On Feb 10, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Marianne Denning  wrote:
> 
>> Can someone tell me how to find the Windows context key when running my Mac 
>> in Bootcamp?
>> 
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Re: context key

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Either that or do what I had to do, and download Sharp keys... just google 
for it... and install that on the Windows side, then assign a hotkey mapping 
the application's key to something else.  I'd never be without sharp keys on 
my windows setup on the mac!


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Subject: Re: context key



Hi,

Just to add, you might have to use the FN key plus shift F10 to bring up 
the context menu.


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On Feb 10, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Mauricio Almeida 
 wrote:



hello there,

please press shift f10 and you'll have it.

thanks,

mauricio
On Feb 10, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Marianne Denning  
wrote:


Can someone tell me how to find the Windows context key when running my 
Mac in Bootcamp?


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Possibility of File Transporter voiceover Accessible?

[Emilio Hernandez]

Hello everyone,

Lately some buzz in the mac ecosystem is about File Transporter, which is a 
personal cloud storage system.
This sounds very interested and the price seems fair-enough for the product.
My question is because of the moderately priced product what is the likelihood 
that the software being voiceover compatible?

Welcome any feedback or thoughts about this topic.

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Re: Possibility of File Transporter voiceover Accessible?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

in my experience, the price of an app is no indicator of accessibility at all.  
I've bought apps for a buck that worked wonderfully with Voiceover, and apps 
for $30 that were completely inaccessible.  I recommend getting in contact with 
the developers if possible and asking if there is a demo or, if it would be 
possible for you to even test the service/app and report your findings to them 
in regards to accessibility.

hth

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> Hello everyone,
> 
> Lately some buzz in the mac ecosystem is about File Transporter, which is a 
> personal cloud storage system.
> This sounds very interested and the price seems fair-enough for the product.
> My question is because of the moderately priced product what is the 
> likelihood that the software being voiceover compatible?
> 
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Accessible means to fill out forms on the mac

[ppowells09]

Hi folks,
I receive forms from my state periodically to re- determine my eligibility for 
state funds. Does anyone know of an accessible means to reliably fill out the 
paperwork on the computer, printed, and sign it? I can print it, I can sign it. 
However filling out the forms is a major issue. I cannot read snail  mail. To 
my knowledge, Microsoft office, is not accessible on the Mac. Not sure if their 
version of PDF, will work with the forms. Please help?

Pam Francis

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Re: Accessible means to fill out forms on the mac

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi Pam
I have some unfortunate news here. This issue of editing good old PDF forms is 
an issue we have talked about before and will no doubt talk again until it is 
resolved. Unless you put Windows on your Mac and download Adobe Acrobat Reader 
to your computer, there is not yet a good way to do this on the Mac if you're 
blind. 

At someone's suggestion, I put PDFpen on my Mac, but it's partially 
inaccessible. You might as well join some of the rest of us in squawking about 
this. 
Regards, 
Gigi who still hates PDF files 

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> Hi folks,
> I receive forms from my state periodically to re- determine my eligibility 
> for state funds. Does anyone know of an accessible means to reliably fill out 
> the paperwork on the computer, printed, and sign it? I can print it, I can 
> sign it. However filling out the forms is a major issue. I cannot read snail  
> mail. To my knowledge, Microsoft office, is not accessible on the Mac. Not 
> sure if their version of PDF, will work with the forms. Please help?
> 
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Re: Accessible means to fill out forms on the mac

[Randy George]

What about a BBY fine reader? I have used in the past and it has worked really 
well for me.

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On Feb 12, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi Pam
> I have some unfortunate news here. This issue of editing good old PDF forms 
> is an issue we have talked about before and will no doubt talk again until it 
> is resolved. Unless you put Windows on your Mac and download Adobe Acrobat 
> Reader to your computer, there is not yet a good way to do this on the Mac if 
> you're blind. 
> 
> At someone's suggestion, I put PDFpen on my Mac, but it's partially 
> inaccessible. You might as well join some of the rest of us in squawking 
> about this. 
> Regards, 
> Gigi who still hates PDF files 
> 
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:50 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> I receive forms from my state periodically to re- determine my eligibility 
>> for state funds. Does anyone know of an accessible means to reliably fill 
>> out the paperwork on the computer, printed, and sign it? I can print it, I 
>> can sign it. However filling out the forms is a major issue. I cannot read 
>> snail  mail. To my knowledge, Microsoft office, is not accessible on the 
>> Mac. Not sure if their version of PDF, will work with the forms. Please help?
>> 
>> Pam Francis
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Re: Accessible means to fill out forms on the mac

[Randy George]

Or I guess our workaround would be to partition your drive, boot your system as 
windows, download jaws for Windows or window eyes, and fill out the forms that 
way. Just another thought.

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On Feb 12, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi Pam
> I have some unfortunate news here. This issue of editing good old PDF forms 
> is an issue we have talked about before and will no doubt talk again until it 
> is resolved. Unless you put Windows on your Mac and download Adobe Acrobat 
> Reader to your computer, there is not yet a good way to do this on the Mac if 
> you're blind. 
> 
> At someone's suggestion, I put PDFpen on my Mac, but it's partially 
> inaccessible. You might as well join some of the rest of us in squawking 
> about this. 
> Regards, 
> Gigi who still hates PDF files 
> 
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:50 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> I receive forms from my state periodically to re- determine my eligibility 
>> for state funds. Does anyone know of an accessible means to reliably fill 
>> out the paperwork on the computer, printed, and sign it? I can print it, I 
>> can sign it. However filling out the forms is a major issue. I cannot read 
>> snail  mail. To my knowledge, Microsoft office, is not accessible on the 
>> Mac. Not sure if their version of PDF, will work with the forms. Please help?
>> 
>> Pam Francis
>> 
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Re: Accessible means to fill out forms on the mac

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Actually, I was reading some documentation the other day and it mentioned that 
Preview works for editable PDFs.  Open your document in Preview, select Edit 
from within the ToolBar, then select the TextTool from within the Edit ToolBar 
and you should be able to fill out pdf forms.  I tried it on a form I had here 
and it appeared to work fine.  I have heard others on this list complain loudly 
about Preview but it works fine for me.  I usually press cmd-2 to put it into 
"Single Page" mode and it works much better for me that way.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-02-12, at 9:36 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi Pam
> I have some unfortunate news here. This issue of editing good old PDF forms 
> is an issue we have talked about before and will no doubt talk again until it 
> is resolved. Unless you put Windows on your Mac and download Adobe Acrobat 
> Reader to your computer, there is not yet a good way to do this on the Mac if 
> you're blind. 
> 
> At someone's suggestion, I put PDFpen on my Mac, but it's partially 
> inaccessible. You might as well join some of the rest of us in squawking 
> about this. 
> Regards, 
> Gigi who still hates PDF files 
> 
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:50 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> I receive forms from my state periodically to re- determine my eligibility 
>> for state funds. Does anyone know of an accessible means to reliably fill 
>> out the paperwork on the computer, printed, and sign it? I can print it, I 
>> can sign it. However filling out the forms is a major issue. I cannot read 
>> snail  mail. To my knowledge, Microsoft office, is not accessible on the 
>> Mac. Not sure if their version of PDF, will work with the forms. Please help?
>> 
>> Pam Francis
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Fwd:

[Brandon Olivares]

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Re: Accessible means to fill out forms on the mac

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi Tim
Thanks for the information, and I'll see if I can get it to work. I tried it a 
time or two, and I couldn't get it to work, so I guess I assumed it couldn't 
happen. See what happens.
Regards
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 12, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Actually, I was reading some documentation the other day and it mentioned 
> that Preview works for editable PDFs.  Open your document in Preview, select 
> Edit from within the ToolBar, then select the TextTool from within the Edit 
> ToolBar and you should be able to fill out pdf forms.  I tried it on a form I 
> had here and it appeared to work fine.  I have heard others on this list 
> complain loudly about Preview but it works fine for me.  I usually press 
> cmd-2 to put it into "Single Page" mode and it works much better for me that 
> way.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2013-02-12, at 9:36 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Pam
>> I have some unfortunate news here. This issue of editing good old PDF forms 
>> is an issue we have talked about before and will no doubt talk again until 
>> it is resolved. Unless you put Windows on your Mac and download Adobe 
>> Acrobat Reader to your computer, there is not yet a good way to do this on 
>> the Mac if you're blind. 
>> 
>> At someone's suggestion, I put PDFpen on my Mac, but it's partially 
>> inaccessible. You might as well join some of the rest of us in squawking 
>> about this. 
>> Regards, 
>> Gigi who still hates PDF files 
>> 
>> On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:50 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> I receive forms from my state periodically to re- determine my eligibility 
>>> for state funds. Does anyone know of an accessible means to reliably fill 
>>> out the paperwork on the computer, printed, and sign it? I can print it, I 
>>> can sign it. However filling out the forms is a major issue. I cannot read 
>>> snail  mail. To my knowledge, Microsoft office, is not accessible on the 
>>> Mac. Not sure if their version of PDF, will work with the forms. Please 
>>> help?
>>> 
>>> Pam Francis
>>> 
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Re: Accessible means to fill out forms on the mac

[Eugenia Firth]

I would think you have to be careful about using an OCR program or a text 
program to edit a file that was done as a PDF previously. I've been told it can 
mess up the format, and sometimes that is not allowed by some of these 
governmental organizations such as the IRS for example.
Regards,
Gigi

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On Feb 12, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Randy George  wrote:

> What about a BBY fine reader? I have used in the past and it has worked 
> really well for me.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Pam
>> I have some unfortunate news here. This issue of editing good old PDF forms 
>> is an issue we have talked about before and will no doubt talk again until 
>> it is resolved. Unless you put Windows on your Mac and download Adobe 
>> Acrobat Reader to your computer, there is not yet a good way to do this on 
>> the Mac if you're blind. 
>> 
>> At someone's suggestion, I put PDFpen on my Mac, but it's partially 
>> inaccessible. You might as well join some of the rest of us in squawking 
>> about this. 
>> Regards, 
>> Gigi who still hates PDF files 
>> 
>> On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:50 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> I receive forms from my state periodically to re- determine my eligibility 
>>> for state funds. Does anyone know of an accessible means to reliably fill 
>>> out the paperwork on the computer, printed, and sign it? I can print it, I 
>>> can sign it. However filling out the forms is a major issue. I cannot read 
>>> snail  mail. To my knowledge, Microsoft office, is not accessible on the 
>>> Mac. Not sure if their version of PDF, will work with the forms. Please 
>>> help?
>>> 
>>> Pam Francis
>>> 
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Re: Accessible means to fill out forms on the mac

[ppowells09]

Thank you for all of the good suggestions. I have a question with reference to 
the type of form. Are there forms that will not lend themselves to be filled 
out on the computer regardless of whether one has adobe acrobat or not? I have 
heard, there are some government forms that are coated in such a way that will 
not permit one to fill them out on the computer. Is this true? Once filled out, 
I can sign them. I just can't see to read them.

Pam Francis

On Feb 12, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi,

Actually, I was reading some documentation the other day and it mentioned that 
Preview works for editable PDFs.  Open your document in Preview, select Edit 
from within the ToolBar, then select the TextTool from within the Edit ToolBar 
and you should be able to fill out pdf forms.  I tried it on a form I had here 
and it appeared to work fine.  I have heard others on this list complain loudly 
about Preview but it works fine for me.  I usually press cmd-2 to put it into 
"Single Page" mode and it works much better for me that way.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-02-12, at 9:36 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi Pam
> I have some unfortunate news here. This issue of editing good old PDF forms 
> is an issue we have talked about before and will no doubt talk again until it 
> is resolved. Unless you put Windows on your Mac and download Adobe Acrobat 
> Reader to your computer, there is not yet a good way to do this on the Mac if 
> you're blind. 
> 
> At someone's suggestion, I put PDFpen on my Mac, but it's partially 
> inaccessible. You might as well join some of the rest of us in squawking 
> about this. 
> Regards, 
> Gigi who still hates PDF files 
> 
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:50 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> I receive forms from my state periodically to re- determine my eligibility 
>> for state funds. Does anyone know of an accessible means to reliably fill 
>> out the paperwork on the computer, printed, and sign it? I can print it, I 
>> can sign it. However filling out the forms is a major issue. I cannot read 
>> snail  mail. To my knowledge, Microsoft office, is not accessible on the 
>> Mac. Not sure if their version of PDF, will work with the forms. Please help?
>> 
>> Pam Francis
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Re: Accessible means to fill out forms on the mac

[Eugenia Firth]

Yes, my doctor office once gave me a PDF form that all you could do was print 
out the thing and then fill it in by hand. Go figure. The least they could have 
done was make it so it could be filled in on the computer, even if you couldn't 
save it out. I have seen some state forms that let you fill in the information 
on the computer, but then you have to print it without saving. Whatever the 
author determines, I guess, is what you can do. The other thing is, sometimes 
they are inaccessible until you go into the accessibility options to fix it. 
Sometimes doesn't work for me. 

Regards, 
Gigi 

On Feb 12, 2013, at 11:52 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:

> Thank you for all of the good suggestions. I have a question with reference 
> to the type of form. Are there forms that will not lend themselves to be 
> filled out on the computer regardless of whether one has adobe acrobat or 
> not? I have heard, there are some government forms that are coated in such a 
> way that will not permit one to fill them out on the computer. Is this true? 
> Once filled out, I can sign them. I just can't see to read them.
> 
> Pam Francis
> 
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Actually, I was reading some documentation the other day and it mentioned 
> that Preview works for editable PDFs.  Open your document in Preview, select 
> Edit from within the ToolBar, then select the TextTool from within the Edit 
> ToolBar and you should be able to fill out pdf forms.  I tried it on a form I 
> had here and it appeared to work fine.  I have heard others on this list 
> complain loudly about Preview but it works fine for me.  I usually press 
> cmd-2 to put it into "Single Page" mode and it works much better for me that 
> way.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2013-02-12, at 9:36 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Pam
>> I have some unfortunate news here. This issue of editing good old PDF forms 
>> is an issue we have talked about before and will no doubt talk again until 
>> it is resolved. Unless you put Windows on your Mac and download Adobe 
>> Acrobat Reader to your computer, there is not yet a good way to do this on 
>> the Mac if you're blind. 
>> 
>> At someone's suggestion, I put PDFpen on my Mac, but it's partially 
>> inaccessible. You might as well join some of the rest of us in squawking 
>> about this. 
>> Regards, 
>> Gigi who still hates PDF files 
>> 
>> On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:50 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> I receive forms from my state periodically to re- determine my eligibility 
>>> for state funds. Does anyone know of an accessible means to reliably fill 
>>> out the paperwork on the computer, printed, and sign it? I can print it, I 
>>> can sign it. However filling out the forms is a major issue. I cannot read 
>>> snail  mail. To my knowledge, Microsoft office, is not accessible on the 
>>> Mac. Not sure if their version of PDF, will work with the forms. Please 
>>> help?
>>> 
>>> Pam Francis
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Re: Accessible means to fill out forms on the mac

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi again Tim. 
After your post, I tried to edit a copy of a 1040 form that I filed for 2011. 
It should work since as I know, I didn't do something that would make it read 
only. I did the edit toolbar which I din't know about until you said. I 
interacted with it, and found the text toolbar, finally, and checked it. Then I 
had done command 2 like you said. I interacted with the text thinking I needed 
to if I was going to make it work. Nothing. I still can't do it. Can you figure 
out what I'm doing wrong? 

Regards, 
Gigi 

On Feb 12, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Actually, I was reading some documentation the other day and it mentioned 
> that Preview works for editable PDFs.  Open your document in Preview, select 
> Edit from within the ToolBar, then select the TextTool from within the Edit 
> ToolBar and you should be able to fill out pdf forms.  I tried it on a form I 
> had here and it appeared to work fine.  I have heard others on this list 
> complain loudly about Preview but it works fine for me.  I usually press 
> cmd-2 to put it into "Single Page" mode and it works much better for me that 
> way.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2013-02-12, at 9:36 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Pam
>> I have some unfortunate news here. This issue of editing good old PDF forms 
>> is an issue we have talked about before and will no doubt talk again until 
>> it is resolved. Unless you put Windows on your Mac and download Adobe 
>> Acrobat Reader to your computer, there is not yet a good way to do this on 
>> the Mac if you're blind. 
>> 
>> At someone's suggestion, I put PDFpen on my Mac, but it's partially 
>> inaccessible. You might as well join some of the rest of us in squawking 
>> about this. 
>> Regards, 
>> Gigi who still hates PDF files 
>> 
>> On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:50 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> I receive forms from my state periodically to re- determine my eligibility 
>>> for state funds. Does anyone know of an accessible means to reliably fill 
>>> out the paperwork on the computer, printed, and sign it? I can print it, I 
>>> can sign it. However filling out the forms is a major issue. I cannot read 
>>> snail  mail. To my knowledge, Microsoft office, is not accessible on the 
>>> Mac. Not sure if their version of PDF, will work with the forms. Please 
>>> help?
>>> 
>>> Pam Francis
>>> 
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to all time capsule owners

[Kliphton]

Does anyone know how to port forward with the time capsule?  I have a
network attached storage that is capable of being some cloud storage without
a monthly fee, and I need it to be online all the time, so I can access it
from my I-devices.  I have goggled this, and found nothing, I have asked in
communities and no concrete answer.  So does anyone who owns a time capsule
know?  This was so much easier when I owned a Linksys AKA cisco router.

 

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Re: to all time capsule owners

[John Panarese]

You do it with Airport Utility.  You want to edit your time capsule and 
choose the network tab.  There is a table for ports and you have to add new 
port information.


Take Care

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> Does anyone know how to port forward with the time capsule?  I have a network 
> attached storage that is capable of being some cloud storage without a 
> monthly fee, and I need it to be online all the time, so I can access it from 
> my I-devices.  I have goggled this, and found nothing, I have asked in 
> communities and no concrete answer.  So does anyone who owns a time capsule 
> know?  This was so much easier when I owned a Linksys AKA cisco router.
>  
> Minister Miller
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RE: to all time capsule owners

[Kliphton]

What ports should I use, are there others more stable?

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Panarese
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 1:38 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: to all time capsule owners

 

You do it with Airport Utility.  You want to edit your time capsule and
choose the network tab.  There is a table for ports and you have to add new
port information.

 


Take Care

 

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MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT

 

 

 

On Feb 12, 2013, at 2:26 PM, "Kliphton"  wrote:





Does anyone know how to port forward with the time capsule?  I have a
network attached storage that is capable of being some cloud storage without
a monthly fee, and I need it to be online all the time, so I can access it
from my I-devices.  I have goggled this, and found nothing, I have asked in
communities and no concrete answer.  So does anyone who owns a time capsule
know?  This was so much easier when I owned a Linksys AKA cisco router.

 

Minister Miller

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http://christledmarriage.wordpress.com

(Marriage group)

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http://facebook.com/CCMarriage

http://twitter.com/MarrigeMinistry

 

 

 

 

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Re: to all time capsule owners

[John Panarese]

I have a list of ports from an apple support article. I'll send it when I'm 
back in the office.

Sent from John's iPhone. 

On Feb 12, 2013, at 2:41 PM, "Kliphton"  wrote:

> What ports should I use, are there others more stable?
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 1:38 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: to all time capsule owners
>  
> You do it with Airport Utility.  You want to edit your time capsule and 
> choose the network tab.  There is a table for ports and you have to add new 
> port information.
>  
> 
> Take Care
>  
> John D. Panarese
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>  
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 2:26 PM, "Kliphton"  wrote:
> 
> 
> Does anyone know how to port forward with the time capsule?  I have a network 
> attached storage that is capable of being some cloud storage without a 
> monthly fee, and I need it to be online all the time, so I can access it from 
> my I-devices.  I have goggled this, and found nothing, I have asked in 
> communities and no concrete answer.  So does anyone who owns a time capsule 
> know?  This was so much easier when I owned a Linksys AKA cisco router.
>  
> Minister Miller
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Editing text

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello All,

I'm struggling to have fluent cursor tracking. Whether it's the mail 
app, pages or safari's search field. It seems VO is not reporting the 
cursor position correctly. As there are several ways of using VO i.e. VO 
cursor locked to cursor, locked to mouse etc. How do I get the best 
cursor tracking when editing text?


Thanks.

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Re: Editing text

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I think this might be a case of you not being use to how the cursor acts on the 
Mac.  On the Mac, the cursor position depends on the direction your navigating 
in.  If navigating to the right, the cursor is located to the right of the last 
character or word spoken by Voiceover.  If moving to the left, the cursor is 
located to the left of the last character or word spoken.

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> 
> I'm struggling to have fluent cursor tracking. Whether it's the mail app, 
> pages or safari's search field. It seems VO is not reporting the cursor 
> position correctly. As there are several ways of using VO i.e. VO cursor 
> locked to cursor, locked to mouse etc. How do I get the best cursor tracking 
> when editing text?
> 
> Thanks.
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Craig's list app?

[Christina C.]

Hi,

Which Craig's List app do you recommend that is very VO friendly. I have the 
free version of Craig's List Pro. It used to be much more accessible and now I 
find it quite cumbersome and I keep getting lost and having to ask for sighted 
assistance.

Thanks,
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Re: Craig's list app?

[Christina C.]

Ooops, I apologize, I meant to send to viPhone list. I wasn't sure if iOS apps 
were on topic here.
Sent from Christina's iMac :)

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> 
> Which Craig's List app do you recommend that is very VO friendly. I have the 
> free version of Craig's List Pro. It used to be much more accessible and now 
> I find it quite cumbersome and I keep getting lost and having to ask for 
> sighted assistance.
> 
> Thanks,
> Christina C.

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Re: Editing .plist files.

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi Chris.

You are wright, plist has been changed to binary files.
Thank you. I will try that, but you know, I am not good at working in terminal.

If anybody should know a program, that can be used, I still would be interested.

Can we use bbedit?

Best regards Annie.
On Feb 11, 2013, at 9:13 PM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> I think they started turning them into binary files around OSX 10.5 so only 
> the older ones will be XML. From the terminal you can use the "defaults" 
> command to read and write plist files of any flavor. Do a 'man defaults' for 
> details. For example:
> 
> defaults read com.apple.Safari
> 
> will list all the current settings in the file and
> 
> defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeInternalDebugMenu -bool true
> 
> turns on the Safari debugger menu.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 2/10/13 12:05 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>> The PLIST files are usually XML files, so you would just need an XML 
>> editor or word processor that can handle XML.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> On Feb 10, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Rachel.
>>> 
>>> Thank you. I need to edit and that can not be done in textedit.
>>> 
>>> Best regards Annie.
>>> On Feb 10, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Annie,
 
 NOt sure if this'll give you entirely what you need, but vo+shift+M on the 
 .plist file, and choose open with, right arrow to expand that sub-menu. 
 Then choose "other…" and from the applications list, choose TextEdit. You 
 should be able to read the information in there.
 HTH,
 Rachel
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> I need to edit a .plist file on the mac. Is there any accessible software 
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Re: Editing .plist files.

[Chris Blouch]

There used to be a standalone property list editor app that came as part 
of xcode but it seems that got merged into the main app a while ago. You 
can still open a plist file within Xcode and use their hierarchical 
editor, which seems to work pretty well with voiceover. Just have to 
remember to use VO backslash to expand/collapse tree nodes.


CB

On 2/12/13 5:07 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:

Hi Chris.

You are wright, plist has been changed to binary files.
Thank you. I will try that, but you know, I am not good at working in terminal.

If anybody should know a program, that can be used, I still would be interested.

Can we use bbedit?

Best regards Annie.
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I think they started turning them into binary files around OSX 10.5 so only the older 
ones will be XML. From the terminal you can use the "defaults" command to read 
and write plist files of any flavor. Do a 'man defaults' for details. For example:

defaults read com.apple.Safari

will list all the current settings in the file and

defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeInternalDebugMenu -bool true

turns on the Safari debugger menu.

CB

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 The PLIST files are usually XML files, so you would just need an XML 
editor or word processor that can handle XML.


Take Care

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Hi Rachel.

Thank you. I need to edit and that can not be done in textedit.

Best regards Annie.
On Feb 10, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:


Hi Annie,

NOt sure if this'll give you entirely what you need, but vo+shift+M on the .plist file, 
and choose open with, right arrow to expand that sub-menu. Then choose "other…" 
and from the applications list, choose TextEdit. You should be able to read the 
information in there.
HTH,
Rachel
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Hi.

I need to edit a .plist file on the mac. Is there any accessible software for 
that.

I have tried with textwrangler, but to me it does not look accessible.

Best regards Annie.

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Re: Editing text

[Alex Hall]

Also, it is important to disabe quicknav when editing. As to cursor tracking, 
just leave the vo defaults for cursors following each other and you should be 
fine.

Sent from my iPhone

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> 
> I think this might be a case of you not being use to how the cursor acts on 
> the Mac.  On the Mac, the cursor position depends on the direction your 
> navigating in.  If navigating to the right, the cursor is located to the 
> right of the last character or word spoken by Voiceover.  If moving to the 
> left, the cursor is located to the left of the last character or word spoken.
> 
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> 
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I'm struggling to have fluent cursor tracking. Whether it's the mail app, 
>> pages or safari's search field. It seems VO is not reporting the cursor 
>> position correctly. As there are several ways of using VO i.e. VO cursor 
>> locked to cursor, locked to mouse etc. How do I get the best cursor tracking 
>> when editing text?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
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Re: Craig's list app?

[Alex Hall]

I can't help with the app, but I can say that discussions of apps are 
encouraged on here. Also, in case you don't know about it, www.applevis.com is 
a great resource for looking up apps to find out about their accessibility.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Ooops, I apologize, I meant to send to viPhone list. I wasn't sure if iOS 
> apps were on topic here.
> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
> 
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 3:00 PM, "Christina C."  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Which Craig's List app do you recommend that is very VO friendly. I have the 
>> free version of Craig's List Pro. It used to be much more accessible and now 
>> I find it quite cumbersome and I keep getting lost and having to ask for 
>> sighted assistance.
>> 
>> Thanks,
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OT: selling my mac.

[Chris Bruinenberg]

Hi all,
I'm sorry to be writing this today. For work and school which i use my
mac for most of this just isn't working out for me.
I need to do heavy formatting with papers and complex pdf files for my classes.
My question for anybody on this list is:
How much do you feel is a reasonable asking price for a macbook pro 13
inch 2012 model.
2.5 core i5 processor
8 gb ram
500 gb hard drive
Box and case to go on the mac.
A copy of vmware fusion.
I'd even throw in a copy of windows 7 professional.
Thanks and sorry but feel free to contact me off list.
Thank you.
Chris
PS: thanks to everybody for all of your tips and help.

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Re: Editing text

[Georgina Joyce]

Hello,

Thanks to you both, I'll play with it again next time I boot the mini.

Also are there commands for moving to the beginning and end of a line? 
Including the highlighting of that line? To the top and to the bottom?



Thanks.

Gena


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Also, it is important to disabe quicknav when editing. As to cursor tracking, 
just leave the vo defaults for cursors following each other and you should be 
fine.

Sent from my iPhone

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Hi,

I think this might be a case of you not being use to how the cursor acts on the 
Mac.  On the Mac, the cursor position depends on the direction your navigating 
in.  If navigating to the right, the cursor is located to the right of the last 
character or word spoken by Voiceover.  If moving to the left, the cursor is 
located to the left of the last character or word spoken.

Ricardo Walker
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Hello All,

I'm struggling to have fluent cursor tracking. Whether it's the mail app, pages 
or safari's search field. It seems VO is not reporting the cursor position 
correctly. As there are several ways of using VO i.e. VO cursor locked to 
cursor, locked to mouse etc. How do I get the best cursor tracking when editing 
text?

Thanks.

Gena
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Re: Editing text

[Eugenia Firth]

 Hi there 
The cursor behavior in VoiceOver can be changed if you want to behave like 
Windows. I haven't done it myself; I just got used to it. If you want to change 
it, first go to the VoiceOver Utility with VO F8. You will need the FN key 
maybe if you have a laptop  and haven't changed the behavior of this key. Then 
go down arrow until you hear Verbosity. Press the tab key. It will probably say 
Speech. Press right arrow twice until you hear VoiceOver say Text. Press space 
bar to choose it. Then press the tab key three times until you hear the choice 
that says "Speak text to the right of the cursor".  

I hope this helps and is not confusing. This will make VoiceOver speak during 
deletions like you're used to in Windows.
I just tried this, and I just decided I like it better the way the default is. 
I'm not used to it any more, so I think I'll change it back. 


Regards, 
Gigi 

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> 
> I think this might be a case of you not being use to how the cursor acts on 
> the Mac.  On the Mac, the cursor position depends on the direction your 
> navigating in.  If navigating to the right, the cursor is located to the 
> right of the last character or word spoken by Voiceover.  If moving to the 
> left, the cursor is located to the left of the last character or word spoken.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
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> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I'm struggling to have fluent cursor tracking. Whether it's the mail app, 
>> pages or safari's search field. It seems VO is not reporting the cursor 
>> position correctly. As there are several ways of using VO i.e. VO cursor 
>> locked to cursor, locked to mouse etc. How do I get the best cursor tracking 
>> when editing text?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Gena
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Re: Editing text

[Alex Hall]

Yes. Cmd-left/right moves to the start or end of the line, up/down to the top 
or bottom of the edit field. Option-left/right moves by word, up/down by 
paragraph. Add shift to select by the movement instead of just moving by it.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Hello,
> 
> Thanks to you both, I'll play with it again next time I boot the mini.
> 
> Also are there commands for moving to the beginning and end of a line? 
> Including the highlighting of that line? To the top and to the bottom?
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Gena
> 
> 
> On 12/02/2013 22:40, Alex Hall wrote:
>> Also, it is important to disabe quicknav when editing. As to cursor 
>> tracking, just leave the vo defaults for cursors following each other and 
>> you should be fine.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Feb 12, 2013, at 16:56, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I think this might be a case of you not being use to how the cursor acts on 
>>> the Mac.  On the Mac, the cursor position depends on the direction your 
>>> navigating in.  If navigating to the right, the cursor is located to the 
>>> right of the last character or word spoken by Voiceover.  If moving to the 
>>> left, the cursor is located to the left of the last character or word 
>>> spoken.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello All,
 
 I'm struggling to have fluent cursor tracking. Whether it's the mail app, 
 pages or safari's search field. It seems VO is not reporting the cursor 
 position correctly. As there are several ways of using VO i.e. VO cursor 
 locked to cursor, locked to mouse etc. How do I get the best cursor 
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 Thanks.
 
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Re: gMail won't download new messages

[kari johns]

The account is online, I've already checked that.  The only thing that isn't 
rite as far as I can see is the get new mail button.  It's dimmed like it's 
downloading the mail, but never actually does it. 
And if the account was off line I shouldn't be able to send  mail, which I can, 
I just can'd receive new mail. I'm completely stumped  

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> Hi Karry,
> 
> You need to make sure that the account is online.  Look in mail boxes and see 
> if that fixes your problem.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 8:17 PM, kary johns wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys.
>> Really hoping  some one can help hear.
>> I had to replace my mac book pro a few days ago, my old one died completely.
>> I setup all my mail accounts on the new one, and up to last night everything 
>> was working fine.
>> I tried to check my gmail last night wen I came home from work, and couldn't 
>> get it to download any new mail.  My bigpond is working fine, just the gmail 
>> refuses to download new messages.  I've deleted and and recreated the 
>> account several times and still nothing. If I go to get new mail  in the 
>> menu bar, it says it's dimmed. I haven't changed any settings.  I've logged  
>> in to gmail through the website and everything is working fine, and as you 
>> can see I can still send mail.
>> Has anyone got any ideas  what I can do to get it working  again? 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance, 
>> A frustrated! Kari. 
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Re: Accessible means to fill out forms on the mac

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I did have to use VO-shift-space to activate the text area within the pdf 
document.  Sorry, I forgot to mention that part in my first post.  VO-space 
wouldn't do anything but the simulated mouse-click VO-shift-space activated the 
text area for me.

Hope it works for you.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2013-02-12, at 12:04 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi again Tim. 
> After your post, I tried to edit a copy of a 1040 form that I filed for 2011. 
> It should work since as I know, I didn't do something that would make it read 
> only. I did the edit toolbar which I din't know about until you said. I 
> interacted with it, and found the text toolbar, finally, and checked it. Then 
> I had done command 2 like you said. I interacted with the text thinking I 
> needed to if I was going to make it work. Nothing. I still can't do it. Can 
> you figure out what I'm doing wrong? 
> 
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
> 
> On Feb 12, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Actually, I was reading some documentation the other day and it mentioned 
>> that Preview works for editable PDFs.  Open your document in Preview, select 
>> Edit from within the ToolBar, then select the TextTool from within the Edit 
>> ToolBar and you should be able to fill out pdf forms.  I tried it on a form 
>> I had here and it appeared to work fine.  I have heard others on this list 
>> complain loudly about Preview but it works fine for me.  I usually press 
>> cmd-2 to put it into "Single Page" mode and it works much better for me that 
>> way.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On 2013-02-12, at 9:36 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Pam
>>> I have some unfortunate news here. This issue of editing good old PDF forms 
>>> is an issue we have talked about before and will no doubt talk again until 
>>> it is resolved. Unless you put Windows on your Mac and download Adobe 
>>> Acrobat Reader to your computer, there is not yet a good way to do this on 
>>> the Mac if you're blind. 
>>> 
>>> At someone's suggestion, I put PDFpen on my Mac, but it's partially 
>>> inaccessible. You might as well join some of the rest of us in squawking 
>>> about this. 
>>> Regards, 
>>> Gigi who still hates PDF files 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2013, at 9:50 AM, ppowell...@aol.com wrote:
>>> 
 Hi folks,
 I receive forms from my state periodically to re- determine my eligibility 
 for state funds. Does anyone know of an accessible means to reliably fill 
 out the paperwork on the computer, printed, and sign it? I can print it, I 
 can sign it. However filling out the forms is a major issue. I cannot read 
 snail  mail. To my knowledge, Microsoft office, is not accessible on the 
 Mac. Not sure if their version of PDF, will work with the forms. Please 
 help?
 
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Re: messages app question

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
I see account controls, and I can add new email, but cannot add phone number.
On Feb 11, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Nicholas Parsons  
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> "How do you change messages to have your phone number at the default on your 
> Mac"?
> 
> In Messages Preferences under the Accounts tab. There is an option to, "Start 
> new messages from:". Below it there is a pop up menu to choose from. Simply 
> select your phone number from this menu.
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searching for stations in radium

[Daniel Miller]

Hello,

I just downloaded the trial or Radium version 3, and am stumped on how to 
search for station. From what it seems, this app doesn't seem as accessible as 
people are making it out to be.
Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: messages app question

[Tim Kilburn]

hi,

Your phone number is added automatically if you've set up iMessage and/or 
FaceTime on your iPhone.  Once set up on the iPhone, it will sync with your 
Apple ID on all devices set up for iMessages and FaceTime with that same Apple 
ID.  As your phone number is not showing up, then I'm guessing that, for some 
reason,, your iPhone is not set up properly with iMessage or FaceTime.  Try the 
following on your iPhone:

• Go into Settings.
• Open Messages panel.
• Make sure iMessage is turned on.
• Back to Settings.
• Open your faceTime panel.
• Double-tap on the Apple ID item.
• You'll need to enter your Apple ID password here to gain access to these 
settings.
• There will be a list of eMails and/or phone numbers associated with your 
Apple ID.
• VO will say "Selected" then the eMail or phone number if it is active for 
FaceTime.
• If VO does not say "Selected", then double-tap on the eMail or phone number 
to activate it.
• Double-tap on any you wish to deselect if they are selected in error.

The FaceTime and iMessage numbers are related and thus by modifying these 
settings from within the FaceTime settings, your iMessage settings should also 
have similar settings.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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>> "How do you change messages to have your phone number at the default on your 
>> Mac"?
>> 
>> In Messages Preferences under the Accounts tab. There is an option to, 
>> "Start new messages from:". Below it there is a pop up menu to choose from. 
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Remote Control for a DVR

[Brian Fischler]

Hey all,

Yes, I know not a mac question, but just wwanted to check if anyone
here knew of a good remote control that might have voice navigation to
control a Timw Warner DVR, and if not Time Warner, if anyone has found
a good remote control to use with a DVR. I have been a long time Tivo
user and my Tivo is crapping out, so I am switching to a Time Warner
DVR, neither the Tivo nor the Time Warner DVR have any kind of
accessibility options, and I still remember the Tivo DVR remote from
when I could still see, but switching to a Time Warner DVR which I
have never used I have no clue how to work the DVR or remote. I was
thinking if I could find a remote control that speaks to me maybe it
would help with working the DVR. Any ideas or suggestions is greatly
appreciated. The Time Warner Iphone app is surprisingly completely
accessible, and I am able to set programs to record but it doesn't
have a remote control option in the app for playback, so while it is
great that I can set programs with no way to playback anything it kind
of defeats the purpose.

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