Re: hotkeys for buttons in dialogs?

[Jürgen Fleger]

Shouldn't apear. You have to define what CMD key to use for quick search. This 
one then no longer works as a normal CMD key.

Am 21.01.2013 um 16:10 schrieb Alex Hall :

> I know about that feature, but I don't like to use it in case there are 
> conflicts with app hotkeys.
> On Jan 21, 2013, at 2:56 AM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
> 
>> Just additional:
>> CTRL + Option + CMD + eject = shut down Mac
>> CTRL + CMD + eject = restart
>> Option + CMD + eject = sleep mode
>> 
>> To Alex: 
>> Do you know of the "Quick Search" option in VoiceOver? If it's selected you 
>> can use one of the CMD keys + the first letter of anything and VO brings you 
>> to the next entry with this first letter. Means for dialogue boxes: pres CMD 
>> + d for "Don't save" and CMD + s for "Save" or CMD + c for "Cancel". Works 
>> rather good. You'll find the option in VoiceOver settings in "Navigation" 
>> category.
>> Sorry but I'm not able to explain it better in english. Hopefully you'll get 
>> what I meant.
>> 
>> Jürgen
>> Am 21.01.2013 um 04:47 schrieb Danny Noonan :
>> 
>>> Not quite but use modifiers with the power button to do the following.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Control + power = show shutdown dialog.
>>> Option + Command + power = Sleep mode.
>>> Control + Command + Power = quit  all applications and restart the computer.
>>> Control + option + Command + Power = quit all applications and shut down 
>>> the computer.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> Danny:
>>> 
>>> On 21/01/2013, at 2:21 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 Not just that. When you push the power button you get the dialog with 
 buttons for sleep, restart, shut down, and so forth. Do these have hotkdys 
 vo simply can't see?
 On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:17 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
 
> I've not found the hot keys yet.  I understand now what you  are asking 
> now if you close something before you finish it. 
> 
> On 21 Jan 2013, at 03:12 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Saving was an example. Take, for instance, an email, When you close an 
>> email without sending it, you are presented with a dialog with three 
>> buttons to save a draft, don't save, or cancel. What I wonder is if this 
>> and other dialogs all have hotkeys for the different buttons? I know 
>> applications have hotkeys through menu items, but dialogs, by 
>> definition, have no menus and therefore no menu items to bind to hotkeys.
>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 9:55 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>>> You don't have a save button on the Mac. Once you have done something, 
>>> just close the window and it's there for you next time. I prefer that 
>>> to be honest.
>>> 
>>> On 21 Jan 2013, at 01:28 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 I was reading through some of Apple's developer documentation and I 
 stumbled across a way to assign hotkeys to buttons in dialogs. For 
 instance, if a dialog comes up asking you to "save", "don't save", or 
 "cancel", you might hit cmd-d to activate "don't save". This is 
 similar to Windows' scheme of letting you press alt with a key to 
 activate a button in most dialogs. Ever since I started using the mac, 
 the absence of these access keys has bugged me, as they are such 
 time-savers, particularly in dialogs with a lot of buttons to tab or 
 vo-arrow through. However, having discovered that it is possible, at 
 least programmatically, to implement access keys, I have to wonder if 
 these keys are available, but simply not announced by Voiceover? Is 
 there a setting that will let vo speak the keys, much like NVDA or 
 Jaws on Windows will say something like "save button, alt plus s"? Or 
 is the case simply that, while access keys are possible, no one uses 
 them? Thanks.
 
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Re: getting to deleted items folder

[Danny Noonan]

if you want your trash folder accessible via a command number keystroke, you 
can add it to your favourites bar. Interact with your mailbox list, arrow to 
the folder you wish to add, mark for dragging with vo , then stop interacting, 
vo left arrow to favourites bar, interact, vo left/right arrow to the spot you 
want it to be, after the 3rd folder name and it will be fourth with command 4 
etc. Now, drop the folder with vo . and fingers crossed, it'll be in your 
favourites bar.  

Some people, myself included have a problem rearranging folder order or 
removing folders from the favourite bar since MountainLion but 99% of the time, 
adding them works well.

Hope this helps.

Danny:

Find the folder you want to add, interact with it in the folders list, 
On 23/01/2013, at 9:33 AM, Randy George  wrote:

> Awesome, thanks Alex.  Just wanted to make sure I didn't accidentally delete 
> an important email. 
> 
> Randy 
> On Jan 22, 2013, at 5:29 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> I would just go to the mailboxes table and find it that way. Sure, command 
>> with numbers will access the mailboxes in your favorites group, but there 
>> are usually more than just those favorites to be found. Vo-j should jump you 
>> from the mailboxes table to the table of messages in that mailbox.
>> On Jan 22, 2013, at 5:27 PM, Randy George  wrote:
>> 
>>> hi all, 
>>> 
>>> sorry for the silly question--but what is the command to get to my deleted 
>>> items folder from my in-box?  i can get to sent, VIP, and others, but not 
>>> able to get to deleted items for some reason. 
>>> 
>>> thanks in advance for the help, 
>>> randy 
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Re: distribution lists?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Kliff

Would you please outline how to make the distribution list?  That's actually 
something with my job that would be incredibly! helpful for mass contacting my 
clients.

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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 9:42 PM
  Subject: distribution lists?


  Okay, I have figured out how to create a distribution list.  But what I'm 
wondering is, if someone has more than 1 email address, how do I tell it to 
only send to 1?  Or does it pick the first address listed?  Thanks.

   

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Quick Search, was: Re: hotkeys for buttons in dialogs?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

What exactly is! quick search and what's it used for, anyway?

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From: "Jürgen Fleger" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:34 AM
Subject: Re: hotkeys for buttons in dialogs?


Shouldn't apear. You have to define what CMD key to use for quick search. 
This one then no longer works as a normal CMD key.


Am 21.01.2013 um 16:10 schrieb Alex Hall :

I know about that feature, but I don't like to use it in case there are 
conflicts with app hotkeys.
On Jan 21, 2013, at 2:56 AM, Jürgen Fleger  
wrote:



Just additional:
CTRL + Option + CMD + eject = shut down Mac
CTRL + CMD + eject = restart
Option + CMD + eject = sleep mode

To Alex:
Do you know of the "Quick Search" option in VoiceOver? If it's selected 
you can use one of the CMD keys + the first letter of anything and VO 
brings you to the next entry with this first letter. Means for dialogue 
boxes: pres CMD + d for "Don't save" and CMD + s for "Save" or CMD + c 
for "Cancel". Works rather good. You'll find the option in VoiceOver 
settings in "Navigation" category.
Sorry but I'm not able to explain it better in english. Hopefully you'll 
get what I meant.


Jürgen
Am 21.01.2013 um 04:47 schrieb Danny Noonan :


Not quite but use modifiers with the power button to do the following.


Control + power = show shutdown dialog.
Option + Command + power = Sleep mode.
Control + Command + Power = quit  all applications and restart the 
computer.
Control + option + Command + Power = quit all applications and shut down 
the computer.


Hope this helps.

Danny:

On 21/01/2013, at 2:21 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

Not just that. When you push the power button you get the dialog with 
buttons for sleep, restart, shut down, and so forth. Do these have 
hotkdys vo simply can't see?

On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:17 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

I've not found the hot keys yet.  I understand now what you  are 
asking now if you close something before you finish it.


On 21 Jan 2013, at 03:12 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

Saving was an example. Take, for instance, an email, When you close 
an email without sending it, you are presented with a dialog with 
three buttons to save a draft, don't save, or cancel. What I wonder 
is if this and other dialogs all have hotkeys for the different 
buttons? I know applications have hotkeys through menu items, but 
dialogs, by definition, have no menus and therefore no menu items to 
bind to hotkeys.

On Jan 20, 2013, at 9:55 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

You don't have a save button on the Mac. Once you have done 
something, just close the window and it's there for you next time. I 
prefer that to be honest.


On 21 Jan 2013, at 01:28 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:


Hi all,
I was reading through some of Apple's developer documentation and I 
stumbled across a way to assign hotkeys to buttons in dialogs. For 
instance, if a dialog comes up asking you to "save", "don't save", 
or "cancel", you might hit cmd-d to activate "don't save". This is 
similar to Windows' scheme of letting you press alt with a key to 
activate a button in most dialogs. Ever since I started using the 
mac, the absence of these access keys has bugged me, as they are 
such time-savers, particularly in dialogs with a lot of buttons to 
tab or vo-arrow through. However, having discovered that it is 
possible, at least programmatically, to implement access keys, I 
have to wonder if these keys are available, but simply not 
announced by Voiceover? Is there a setting that will let vo speak 
the keys, much like NVDA or Jaws on Windows will say something like 
"save button, alt plus s"? Or is the case simply that, while access 
keys are possible, no one uses them? Thanks.



Have a great day,
Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
mehg...@gmail.com



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Re: Quick Search, was: Re: hotkeys for buttons in dialogs?

[Jürgen Fleger]

You can use it to jump by first letter navigation to VoiceOver elements on the 
screen by pressing CMD + first letter. Before you can decide which CMD key to 
use, either right or left from Spacebar.
Jürgen
Am 23.01.2013 um 11:30 schrieb Christopher-Mark Gilland :

> What exactly is! quick search and what's it used for, anyway?
> 
> Chris Gilland.
> Founder of CLG Productions
> http://www.clgproductions.com
> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
> Phone: 803-760-7136
> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
> Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
> - Original Message - From: "Jürgen Fleger" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:34 AM
> Subject: Re: hotkeys for buttons in dialogs?
> 
> 
> Shouldn't apear. You have to define what CMD key to use for quick search. 
> This one then no longer works as a normal CMD key.
> 
> Am 21.01.2013 um 16:10 schrieb Alex Hall :
> 
>> I know about that feature, but I don't like to use it in case there are 
>> conflicts with app hotkeys.
>> On Jan 21, 2013, at 2:56 AM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:
>> 
>>> Just additional:
>>> CTRL + Option + CMD + eject = shut down Mac
>>> CTRL + CMD + eject = restart
>>> Option + CMD + eject = sleep mode
>>> 
>>> To Alex:
>>> Do you know of the "Quick Search" option in VoiceOver? If it's selected you 
>>> can use one of the CMD keys + the first letter of anything and VO brings 
>>> you to the next entry with this first letter. Means for dialogue boxes: 
>>> pres CMD + d for "Don't save" and CMD + s for "Save" or CMD + c for 
>>> "Cancel". Works rather good. You'll find the option in VoiceOver settings 
>>> in "Navigation" category.
>>> Sorry but I'm not able to explain it better in english. Hopefully you'll 
>>> get what I meant.
>>> 
>>> Jürgen
>>> Am 21.01.2013 um 04:47 schrieb Danny Noonan :
>>> 
 Not quite but use modifiers with the power button to do the following.
 
 
 Control + power = show shutdown dialog.
 Option + Command + power = Sleep mode.
 Control + Command + Power = quit  all applications and restart the 
 computer.
 Control + option + Command + Power = quit all applications and shut down 
 the computer.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Danny:
 
 On 21/01/2013, at 2:21 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
> Not just that. When you push the power button you get the dialog with 
> buttons for sleep, restart, shut down, and so forth. Do these have 
> hotkdys vo simply can't see?
> On Jan 20, 2013, at 10:17 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
>> I've not found the hot keys yet.  I understand now what you  are asking 
>> now if you close something before you finish it.
>> 
>> On 21 Jan 2013, at 03:12 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Saving was an example. Take, for instance, an email, When you close an 
>>> email without sending it, you are presented with a dialog with three 
>>> buttons to save a draft, don't save, or cancel. What I wonder is if 
>>> this and other dialogs all have hotkeys for the different buttons? I 
>>> know applications have hotkeys through menu items, but dialogs, by 
>>> definition, have no menus and therefore no menu items to bind to 
>>> hotkeys.
>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 9:55 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
 You don't have a save button on the Mac. Once you have done something, 
 just close the window and it's there for you next time. I prefer that 
 to be honest.
 
 On 21 Jan 2013, at 01:28 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> I was reading through some of Apple's developer documentation and I 
> stumbled across a way to assign hotkeys to buttons in dialogs. For 
> instance, if a dialog comes up asking you to "save", "don't save", or 
> "cancel", you might hit cmd-d to activate "don't save". This is 
> similar to Windows' scheme of letting you press alt with a key to 
> activate a button in most dialogs. Ever since I started using the 
> mac, the absence of these access keys has bugged me, as they are such 
> time-savers, particularly in dialogs with a lot of buttons to tab or 
> vo-arrow through. However, having discovered that it is possible, at 
> least programmatically, to implement access keys, I have to wonder if 
> these keys are available, but simply not announced by Voiceover? Is 
> there a setting that will let vo speak the keys, much like NVDA or 
> Jaws on Windows will say something like "save button, alt plus s"? Or 
> is the case simply that, while access keys are possible, no one uses 
> them? Thanks.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: distribution lists?

[Alex Hall]

Open contacts, then go to file, new, new group. Give it a name, and you'll be 
in the groups table. Arrow up to "all contacts", and find the contact you want 
in your group in the contacts table (optionally using the search field). Hit 
cmd-c on the contact, then go back to the groups table, move to the group you 
want, and, right on the group name, cmd-v. Repeat the process for all the 
contacts you want. I haven't tried this one, but I imagine multiple selections 
will also work just fine.
On Jan 23, 2013, at 5:29 AM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland"  
wrote:

> Kliff
> 
> Would you please outline how to make the distribution list?  That's actually 
> something with my job that would be incredibly! helpful for mass contacting 
> my clients.
>  
> Chris Gilland.
> Founder of CLG Productions
> http://www.clgproductions.com
> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
> Phone: 803-760-7136
> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
> Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
> - Original Message -
> From: Kliphton
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 9:42 PM
> Subject: distribution lists?
> 
> Okay, I have figured out how to create a distribution list.  But what I’m 
> wondering is, if someone has more than 1 email address, how do I tell it to 
> only send to 1?  Or does it pick the first address listed?  Thanks.
>  
> Kliphton Senior
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Re: distribution lists?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

You know, now that you mention it, I do kind a remember seeing that in the file 
menu.  OK, I'm feeling kind a dumb right about now, LOL!

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  From: Alex Hall 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 9:13 AM
  Subject: Re: distribution lists?


  Open contacts, then go to file, new, new group. Give it a name, and you'll be 
in the groups table. Arrow up to "all contacts", and find the contact you want 
in your group in the contacts table (optionally using the search field). Hit 
cmd-c on the contact, then go back to the groups table, move to the group you 
want, and, right on the group name, cmd-v. Repeat the process for all the 
contacts you want. I haven't tried this one, but I imagine multiple selections 
will also work just fine.

  On Jan 23, 2013, at 5:29 AM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
 wrote:


Kliff

Would you please outline how to make the distribution list?  That's 
actually something with my job that would be incredibly! helpful for mass 
contacting my clients.

Chris Gilland.
Founder of CLG Productions
http://www.clgproductions.com
E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
Phone: 803-760-7136
Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kliphton 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 9:42 PM
  Subject: distribution lists?


  Okay, I have figured out how to create a distribution list.  But what I’m 
wondering is, if someone has more than 1 email address, how do I tell it to 
only send to 1?  Or does it pick the first address listed?  Thanks.



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Re: distribution lists?

[Alex Hall]

No problem, even if you found the "new group" option, it would be hard to know 
to copy and paste contacts into it. I put up a more complete guide on 
applevis.com if you need it.
On Jan 23, 2013, at 12:01 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
 wrote:

> You know, now that you mention it, I do kind a remember seeing that in the 
> file menu.  OK, I'm feeling kind a dumb right about now, LOL!
> 
> Chris Gilland.
> Founder of CLG Productions
> http://www.clgproductions.com
> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
> Phone: 803-760-7136
> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
> Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
> - Original Message -
> From: Alex Hall
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 9:13 AM
> Subject: Re: distribution lists?
> 
> Open contacts, then go to file, new, new group. Give it a name, and you'll be 
> in the groups table. Arrow up to "all contacts", and find the contact you 
> want in your group in the contacts table (optionally using the search field). 
> Hit cmd-c on the contact, then go back to the groups table, move to the group 
> you want, and, right on the group name, cmd-v. Repeat the process for all the 
> contacts you want. I haven't tried this one, but I imagine multiple 
> selections will also work just fine.
> On Jan 23, 2013, at 5:29 AM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Kliff
>> 
>> Would you please outline how to make the distribution list?  That's actually 
>> something with my job that would be incredibly! helpful for mass contacting 
>> my clients.
>>  
>> Chris Gilland.
>> Founder of CLG Productions
>> http://www.clgproductions.com
>> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
>> Phone: 803-760-7136
>> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
>> Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Kliphton
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 9:42 PM
>> Subject: distribution lists?
>> 
>> Okay, I have figured out how to create a distribution list.  But what I’m 
>> wondering is, if someone has more than 1 email address, how do I tell it to 
>> only send to 1?  Or does it pick the first address listed?  Thanks.
>> Kliphton Senior
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Preview Question!

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Hey guys, 
 I have sort of a strange question. I need to quickly sign some legal 
documents. I know that Preview has a signature option in preferences. Will I be 
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Re: To the Moderator of this list

[Kimsan]

Hi,
I am not seeing anything about changing email addresses.

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 12:41 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: To the Moderator of this list

Sorry I moved cursor. Here is link again. Log in upper right hand corner. 
Right under log in you will see edit my membership. Mail options are in 
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test

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Hi,
Are my emails coming through?

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Re: To the Moderator of this list

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi there
I did it by going to Google. You know how at the end of messages it gives you 
links for changing options. I had to look around for it, and it's been a while 
since I did it. But, you can change the email address yourself. I did this so I 
could send this list to the Cloud. Now I can better manage the traffic because 
I don't get duplicate emails. 

Regards, 
Gigi 

On Jan 23, 2013, at 12:20 PM, Kimsan  wrote:

> Hi,
> I am not seeing anything about changing email addresses.
> 
> -Original Message- From: J.P.
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 12:41 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: To the Moderator of this list
> 
> Sorry I moved cursor. Here is link again. Log in upper right hand corner. 
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> there. http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/subscribe
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Re: test

[Alex Hall]

Indeed they are!

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Re: distribution lists?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Actually, I would have figured to copy/paste, seeing that is how you would copy 
contacts into a group in general.  Anyway, still, thanks for the help.

Chris Gilland.
Founder of CLG Productions
http://www.clgproductions.com
E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
Phone: 803-760-7136
Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Alex Hall 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:19 PM
  Subject: Re: distribution lists?


  No problem, even if you found the "new group" option, it would be hard to 
know to copy and paste contacts into it. I put up a more complete guide on 
applevis.com if you need it.

  On Jan 23, 2013, at 12:01 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
 wrote:


You know, now that you mention it, I do kind a remember seeing that in the 
file menu.  OK, I'm feeling kind a dumb right about now, LOL!

Chris Gilland.
Founder of CLG Productions
http://www.clgproductions.com
E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
Phone: 803-760-7136
Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alex Hall 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 9:13 AM
  Subject: Re: distribution lists?


  Open contacts, then go to file, new, new group. Give it a name, and 
you'll be in the groups table. Arrow up to "all contacts", and find the contact 
you want in your group in the contacts table (optionally using the search 
field). Hit cmd-c on the contact, then go back to the groups table, move to the 
group you want, and, right on the group name, cmd-v. Repeat the process for all 
the contacts you want. I haven't tried this one, but I imagine multiple 
selections will also work just fine.

  On Jan 23, 2013, at 5:29 AM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
 wrote:


Kliff

Would you please outline how to make the distribution list?  That's 
actually something with my job that would be incredibly! helpful for mass 
contacting my clients.

Chris Gilland.
Founder of CLG Productions
http://www.clgproductions.com
E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
Phone: 803-760-7136
Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kliphton 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 9:42 PM
  Subject: distribution lists?


  Okay, I have figured out how to create a distribution list.  But what 
I’m wondering is, if someone has more than 1 email address, how do I tell it to 
only send to 1?  Or does it pick the first address listed?  Thanks.


  Kliphton Senior

  (Email&iMessage) kliph...@gmail.com

  (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72

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Re: To the Moderator of this list

[Kimsan]

so click on this link?
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.




-Original Message- 
From: Eugenia Firth

Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 10:41 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To the Moderator of this list

Hi there
I did it by going to Google. You know how at the end of messages it gives 
you links for changing options. I had to look around for it, and it's been a 
while since I did it. But, you can change the email address yourself. I did 
this so I could send this list to the Cloud. Now I can better manage the 
traffic because I don't get duplicate emails.


Regards,
Gigi

On Jan 23, 2013, at 12:20 PM, Kimsan  wrote:


Hi,
I am not seeing anything about changing email addresses.

-Original Message- From: J.P.
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 12:41 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: To the Moderator of this list

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Re: To the Moderator of this list

[Eugenia Firth]

Yes, that's where I found the option for doing this. 


Gigi 

On Jan 23, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Kimsan  wrote:

> so click on this link?
>> For more options, visit this group at 
>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
>> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Eugenia Firth
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 10:41 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: To the Moderator of this list
> 
> Hi there
> I did it by going to Google. You know how at the end of messages it gives you 
> links for changing options. I had to look around for it, and it's been a 
> while since I did it. But, you can change the email address yourself. I did 
> this so I could send this list to the Cloud. Now I can better manage the 
> traffic because I don't get duplicate emails.
> 
> Regards,
> Gigi
> 
> On Jan 23, 2013, at 12:20 PM, Kimsan  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I am not seeing anything about changing email addresses.
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: J.P.
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 12:41 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: To the Moderator of this list
>> 
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[Kimsan]

I will go there now. I was on there before I sent the last email and 
couldn't find it. Once more, I will seek out this option.

Thanks.

-Original Message- 
From: Eugenia Firth

Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 10:50 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To the Moderator of this list

Yes, that's where I found the option for doing this.


Gigi

On Jan 23, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Kimsan  wrote:


so click on this link?
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.




-Original Message- From: Eugenia Firth
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 10:41 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To the Moderator of this list

Hi there
I did it by going to Google. You know how at the end of messages it gives 
you links for changing options. I had to look around for it, and it's been 
a while since I did it. But, you can change the email address yourself. I 
did this so I could send this list to the Cloud. Now I can better manage 
the traffic because I don't get duplicate emails.


Regards,
Gigi

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Hi,
I am not seeing anything about changing email addresses.

-Original Message- From: J.P.
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 12:41 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: To the Moderator of this list

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Managing List Subscriptions [was Re: To the Moderator of this list]

[Esther]

Hello Laura, Rafael, J.P., Kimsan, Gigi, and Others

You can manage both the type of your subscriptions (No Email, Email, Digest 
Email, or Unsubscribe to permanently leave the list) and the email address(es) 
that you use for all your Google Group list memberships by going to the 
following URL, which is the page for "Manage My Memberships"

http://groups.google.com/groups/mysubs?hl=en_US&pli=1

This page lets you select the email address used to receive list posts as well 
as your subscription type option from pop up menus for each list you subscribe 
to under Google Groups. However, this only lets you select the email address 
you use from among the valid (posting) email addresses that are already 
associated with your account.  If you want your subscription to go to a new 
email address, navigate to the link on the above page for "My Google account"  
to Change your email address, nickname, or password. VO-Space on that link to 
navigate to the "Account Overview" page.  Then use item chooser menu (VO-I), 
type in "Email", and navigate to the section with the Email information for 
your account.  You can activate the "Edit" link immediately following "Email" 
to make general changes to your account, including adding any Email addresses 
you want to under the "Change your associated Email addresses" heading by 
typing in additional Email addresses into the text box for "Add a new alternate 
Email" and then pressing the "Save" button.  Alternatively, if you simply want 
to change the primary email for the account, on the "Account Overview" page you 
can navigate directly to the "Edit" link immediately following the "Primary 
email address" info and activate that link.  

For more details and answers to related specific questions, check the following 
list posts that were found from a search of this list's archives:
• Re: The New Google Groups Site and viewing/changing membership options?
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg64431.html
• Re: Changing list email address and subscription options [was Re: How to stop 
receiving mail from the list without unsubscribing?]
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg67853.html

These posts explain various other questions that came up, like reminding users 
that if you're prompted to log in with an email address and password, the email 
address you use is the one you used to create your Google Account -- it need 
not be your current email address.  Also, the above procedure of adding email 
addresses associated with your account assumes that you have not created 
multiple Google Accounts by multiple unsubscribes and creations of new Google 
Accounts.  You only ever need to modify one account to manage your 
subscriptions, and you cannot add  multiple email addresses that are already 
associated with different Google Accounts that you have forgotten about.  If 
you do add new Email addresses from the "Account Overview" page, you can 
navigate back to the "Manage My Memberships" page and change the pop up menu 
buttons for which address is used to receive mail subscriptions.  And you can 
post to the list using Email addresses from any of the addresses that you have 
added, and which appear in the pop-up menu.

If you want to read up or down the linked threads at the Mail Archive for this 
list, use Control+p to read previous posts in the thread, and Control+n to read 
the next post in the thread.  (These shortcut keys are for Safari).

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

 
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> Is there a way to change email address?
> I have checked under the settings but couldn't find it so subscribed under a 
> new address where I want to receive email but haven't been approved yet.
> Didn't know if I could change my subscription over manually at this link?
> Thanks,
> Laura Ann

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Re: Pages Question

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Kimsan,

To adjust the line spacing in Pages, open the Inspector (Cmd-Option-i) and 
select the Text button. Then Select the Text tab and navigate right to Color & 
Alignment, then navigate down to Line. Go down to the next line and once right 
where you can type in the figure 2 for double spacing.

Cheers,

Anne


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> How does
> one double space in pages?
> I read somewhere to select the text and access the layout tab but couldn't 
> find anything.
> Thanks

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Re: distribution lists?

[Kliphton A M]

so how do you choose what email address to use if there are multiple ones for 1 
contact?
On Jan 23, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> No problem, even if you found the "new group" option, it would be hard to 
> know to copy and paste contacts into it. I put up a more complete guide on 
> applevis.com if you need it.
> On Jan 23, 2013, at 12:01 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
>  wrote:
> 
>> You know, now that you mention it, I do kind a remember seeing that in the 
>> file menu.  OK, I'm feeling kind a dumb right about now, LOL!
>> 
>> Chris Gilland.
>> Founder of CLG Productions
>> http://www.clgproductions.com
>> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
>> Phone: 803-760-7136
>> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
>> Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Alex Hall
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 9:13 AM
>> Subject: Re: distribution lists?
>> 
>> Open contacts, then go to file, new, new group. Give it a name, and you'll 
>> be in the groups table. Arrow up to "all contacts", and find the contact you 
>> want in your group in the contacts table (optionally using the search 
>> field). Hit cmd-c on the contact, then go back to the groups table, move to 
>> the group you want, and, right on the group name, cmd-v. Repeat the process 
>> for all the contacts you want. I haven't tried this one, but I imagine 
>> multiple selections will also work just fine.
>> On Jan 23, 2013, at 5:29 AM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Kliff
>>> 
>>> Would you please outline how to make the distribution list?  That's 
>>> actually something with my job that would be incredibly! helpful for mass 
>>> contacting my clients.
>>>  
>>> Chris Gilland.
>>> Founder of CLG Productions
>>> http://www.clgproductions.com
>>> E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com
>>> Phone: 803-760-7136
>>> Toll-Free: 1-888-405-3185
>>> Mon-Fri 8A.M-5P.M Eastern Standard Time except weekends and holidays.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Kliphton
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 9:42 PM
>>> Subject: distribution lists?
>>> 
>>> Okay, I have figured out how to create a distribution list.  But what I’m 
>>> wondering is, if someone has more than 1 email address, how do I tell it to 
>>> only send to 1?  Or does it pick the first address listed?  Thanks.
>>> Kliphton Senior
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The mod will kill me but I am just making sure what I did worked.

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Re: To the Moderator of this list

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, you can visit http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en 
and go to the settings section, and do it from there. If you need me to 
change it for you, write me off list and I'll be happy to do this for you.


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On 1/22/2013 1:17 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:

Hello,

At your convenience, would you please e-mail me with directions for changing my 
settings on this group's account, so as to be able to receive my messages in 
digest form?

Thank you.
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RE: To the Moderator of this list

[Kimsan]

Hi,
After looking at the below email underneath yours, I am assuming you are
responding to that person.
I am writing from the new email address now that I wanted to switch it to.
So, if all is well with my change, I will get back to reading all the great
and helpful tidbits that this wonderful group offers.
I left a year ago because I hated the mac; however, I revisited the mac a
few months back, and I love it!
I guess I was afraid that I was going to break my mac machine lol!

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>
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Re: Grabbing a web site?

[Chris Blouch]

I don't know of a Safari plugin but if you have MacPorts installed you 
get the open source wget tool and then use it in terminal to grab a 
bunch of pages and store them on your hard drive:


wget -mcrpk -o process.log http://www.abcd.com

Parameters:

O - output of the process is written to a file instead of the display. 
In this case I logged everything to process.log

M - Mirror - copies timestamps and recursion
C - Continues a partly-downloaded transfer. Probably not as big an issue 
on a good connection
R - Recursion, but this might not have been needed with the M. Figured 
it didn't hurt.

P - Download any page dependencies like CSS, images etc.
K - Convert all links to relative URLs so it doesn't keep trying to link 
off to the original site or path


It will crawl every link of every page and store it all in your current 
folder. Then you can webshare that folder to make your own mini version 
of the site or just open the top level file in Safari. The latter method 
may not always work since modern sites use javascript ajax stuff to suck 
in piecesparts from a web server which is not what is happening when you 
just open a file directly from your hard drive.


CB

On 1/23/13 4:00 PM, Bill Holton wrote:


Hi.

Does anyone know of an accessible Safari plugin or stand alone app 
that will go to a web site and download everything for off-line vieweing?


Thanks.

BILL HOLTON

Email:b...@bholton.com 

P:386-624-6309 C: 386-624-3255

Home Office:1520 Loughton ST

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RE: Grabbing a web site?

[Bill Holton]

Hi.
Thanks for the info, but I think you’re about five levels above my pay grade, 
mac wise.
Thanks.
 
 
 
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Email: b...@bholton.com
P:386-624-6309 C: 386-624-3255
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 5:13 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Grabbing a web site?
 
I don't know of a Safari plugin but if you have MacPorts installed you get the 
open source wget tool and then use it in terminal to grab a bunch of pages and 
store them on your hard drive:

wget -mcrpk -o process.log http://www.abcd.com

Parameters:

O - output of the process is written to a file instead of the display. In this 
case I logged everything to process.log
M - Mirror - copies timestamps and recursion
C - Continues a partly-downloaded transfer. Probably not as big an issue on a 
good connection
R - Recursion, but this might not have been needed with the M. Figured it 
didn't hurt.
P - Download any page dependencies like CSS, images etc.
K - Convert all links to relative URLs so it doesn't keep trying to link off to 
the original site or path

It will crawl every link of every page and store it all in your current folder. 
Then you can webshare that folder to make your own mini version of the site or 
just open the top level file in Safari. The latter method may not always work 
since modern sites use javascript ajax stuff to suck in piecesparts from a web 
server which is not what is happening when you just open a file directly from 
your hard drive.

CB

On 1/23/13 4:00 PM, Bill Holton wrote:


Hi.
Does anyone know of an accessible Safari plugin or stand alone app that will go 
to a web site and download everything for off-line  vieweing?
Thanks.
 
 
 
BILL HOLTON
Email:    b...@bholton.com
P:386-624-6309 C: 386-624-3255
Home Office: 1520 Loughton ST
DeLand, FL  32720
 
 
 
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Filling in tables in the docx format.

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi.

It would have been easy, if we could use office for mac for filling in tables 
created in ms office, but I know that we can not do that.

Is there any ways, that we can fill in tables of the docx format retaining the 
originally layout.

Best regards Annie.

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Re: Grabbing a web site?

[Chris Blouch]

Well, if you want to attempt it I'd be happy to break things down a bit.

CB

On 1/23/13 5:16 PM, Bill Holton wrote:


Hi.

Thanks for the info, but I think you’re about five levels above my pay 
grade, mac wise.


Thanks.

BILL HOLTON

Email:b...@bholton.com 

P:386-624-6309 C: 386-624-3255

Home Office:1520 Loughton ST

DeLand, FL32720

*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris Blouch

*Sent:* Wednesday, January 23, 2013 5:13 PM
*To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Grabbing a web site?

I don't know of a Safari plugin but if you have MacPorts installed you 
get the open source wget tool and then use it in terminal to grab a 
bunch of pages and store them on your hard drive:


wget -mcrpk -o process.log http://www.abcd.com

Parameters:

O - output of the process is written to a file instead of the display. 
In this case I logged everything to process.log

M - Mirror - copies timestamps and recursion
C - Continues a partly-downloaded transfer. Probably not as big an 
issue on a good connection
R - Recursion, but this might not have been needed with the M. Figured 
it didn't hurt.

P - Download any page dependencies like CSS, images etc.
K - Convert all links to relative URLs so it doesn't keep trying to 
link off to the original site or path


It will crawl every link of every page and store it all in your 
current folder. Then you can webshare that folder to make your own 
mini version of the site or just open the top level file in Safari. 
The latter method may not always work since modern sites use 
javascript ajax stuff to suck in piecesparts from a web server which 
is not what is happening when you just open a file directly from your 
hard drive.


CB

On 1/23/13 4:00 PM, Bill Holton wrote:

Hi.

Does anyone know of an accessible Safari plugin or stand alone app 
that will go to a web site and download everything for off-linevieweing?


Thanks.

BILL HOLTON

Email:b...@bholton.com 

P:386-624-6309 C: 386-624-3255

Home Office:1520 Loughton ST

DeLand, FL32720

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Mac mini ram and hd questions

[Mary Otten]

I was certain that I had read somewhere that you could have two drives in a mac 
Mini, 2012 model. But on the Apple site, the build to order options don't allow 
for that. Am I nuts? Or is this a possible after market add on? I know there 
aren't many of those. Also curious about peoples' experiences with ram. I'm 
thinking of the 8 gb upgrade, although there is a 16-gb for 200 dollars more 
than the 8. I want to run Windows and Mac os, because I still need MS Word and 
still use k1000. Hence the interest in two drives. I don't do any real big deal 
processing things on the Mac or Windows, for that matter. But if I had a vm 
running and email up and software speech and scanning program etc, would the 8 
gb suffice? I'd hate to buy an IMac, because I don't need the display nor 
another keyboard nor a mouse, so it just seems kind of wasteful; hence my 
interest in another mini. The one I have now is a bit over 3 years old and 
still going strong, but it runs sl, and I'm starting to have issues, like not 
being able to use the nightly webkit builds anymore, and I suspect that the web 
issues are only going to get worse, not better. 

Mary

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RE: Mac mini ram and had questions

[Kliphton]

It depends on what you want, and how much your trying to spend.  You can get
a 2012 mac mini, with 2 drives in it for a pretty good price.  Now it
depends if you want them to be your standard HD, or you want SSD's.  I know
for a fact you can get either one.  8GB of ram is plenty to handle fusion
and mountain lion for what you want to do.  So answer the above questions,
and I will point you in the right direction.  My email is
kliph...@gmail.com
If you want to contact me off list.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 5:33 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mac mini ram and hd questions

I was certain that I had read somewhere that you could have two drives in a
mac Mini, 2012 model. But on the Apple site, the build to order options
don't allow for that. Am I nuts? Or is this a possible after market add on?
I know there aren't many of those. Also curious about peoples' experiences
with ram. I'm thinking of the 8 gb upgrade, although there is a 16-gb for
200 dollars more than the 8. I want to run Windows and Mac os, because I
still need MS Word and still use k1000. Hence the interest in two drives. I
don't do any real big deal processing things on the Mac or Windows, for that
matter. But if I had a vm running and email up and software speech and
scanning program etc, would the 8 gb suffice? I'd hate to buy an IMac,
because I don't need the display nor another keyboard nor a mouse, so it
just seems kind of wasteful; hence my interest in another mini. The one I
have now is a bit over 3 years old and still going strong, but it runs sl,
and I'm starting to have issues, like not being able to use the nightly
webkit builds anymore, and I suspect that the web issues are only going to
get worse, not better. 

Mary

Mary Otten
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Re: Mac mini ram and hd questions

[John Panarese]

   I don't know if you can buy it up front.  I thought there was an option for 
that.  I added a second SSD drive after the fact.  However, I thought you could 
choose a second drive when you are selecting your drive options.  Maybe, you 
have to buy the model with two drives now.



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On Jan 23, 2013, at 6:33 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

> I was certain that I had read somewhere that you could have two drives in a 
> mac Mini, 2012 model. But on the Apple site, the build to order options don't 
> allow for that. Am I nuts? Or is this a possible after market add on? I know 
> there aren't many of those. Also curious about peoples' experiences with ram. 
> I'm thinking of the 8 gb upgrade, although there is a 16-gb for 200 dollars 
> more than the 8. I want to run Windows and Mac os, because I still need MS 
> Word and still use k1000. Hence the interest in two drives. I don't do any 
> real big deal processing things on the Mac or Windows, for that matter. But 
> if I had a vm running and email up and software speech and scanning program 
> etc, would the 8 gb suffice? I'd hate to buy an IMac, because I don't need 
> the display nor another keyboard nor a mouse, so it just seems kind of 
> wasteful; hence my interest in another mini. The one I have now is a bit over 
> 3 years old and still going strong, but it runs sl, and I'm starting to have 
> issues, like not being able to use the nightly webkit builds anymore, and I 
> suspect that the web issues are only going to get worse, not better. 
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Re: Mac mini ram and hd questions

[Mary Otten]

Well, maybe I missed it somehow, but when I was configuring a mini yesterday, I 
only saw one option to pick a drive, and there are 3 options. I also didn't see 
where it said whether the conventional hard drive portion of the fusion drive 
for the Mini would be the 5400 rpm or whether it is upgraded to 7200 rpm. I'm 
kind of disappointed that the standard drive is still 5400. I'd like to get an 
ssd and a conventional 7200 rpm drive for a total of 2 drives, but didn't see 
that option. I'm keeping this on list rather than write directly, because I 
figure it could be of use to others.

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Re: Mac mini ram and hd questions

[Angelo]

I recently bought a 2012 Mac Minnie, with the default 4 gbs of ram, I also 
bought a 16  2 stick ram kit from Amazon  for $70 and installed myself, not 
very hard to do. a second drive is also doable, but I wouldn't try this on my 
own, it's just to deep into the mini, but if you have sighted help from someone 
that is some what techy go for it. I will be adding one soon...
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  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:33 PM
  Subject: Mac mini ram and hd questions


  I was certain that I had read somewhere that you could have two drives in a 
mac Mini, 2012 model. But on the Apple site, the build to order options don't 
allow for that. Am I nuts? Or is this a possible after market add on? I know 
there aren't many of those. Also curious about peoples' experiences with ram. 
I'm thinking of the 8 gb upgrade, although there is a 16-gb for 200 dollars 
more than the 8. I want to run Windows and Mac os, because I still need MS Word 
and still use k1000. Hence the interest in two drives. I don't do any real big 
deal processing things on the Mac or Windows, for that matter. But if I had a 
vm running and email up and software speech and scanning program etc, would the 
8 gb suffice? I'd hate to buy an IMac, because I don't need the display nor 
another keyboard nor a mouse, so it just seems kind of wasteful; hence my 
interest in another mini. The one I have now is a bit over 3 years old and 
still going strong, but it runs sl, and I'm starting to have issues, like not 
being able to use the nightly webkit builds anymore, and I suspect that the web 
issues are only going to get worse, not better. 

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Re: Mac mini ram and hd questions

[Angelo]

If you are looking at the standard $599 mini, it's not upgradable. It's best to 
do this after market 
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  Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:54 PM
  Subject: Re: Mac mini ram and hd questions


  Well, maybe I missed it somehow, but when I was configuring a mini yesterday, 
I only saw one option to pick a drive, and there are 3 options. I also didn't 
see where it said whether the conventional hard drive portion of the fusion 
drive for the Mini would be the 5400 rpm or whether it is upgraded to 7200 rpm. 
I'm kind of disappointed that the standard drive is still 5400. I'd like to get 
an ssd and a conventional 7200 rpm drive for a total of 2 drives, but didn't 
see that option. I'm keeping this on list rather than write directly, because I 
figure it could be of use to others.

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Sinking apps from my iPhone to the mac.

[Danny Noonan]

I'm reseting my iPhone and starting from scratch as I've had corrupted backups 
for a couple of years and can't handle the issues any more.

I've backed up all the apps to iTunes, have my podcast list in OPML in an email 
but want to be sure all my contacts are properly sinked with the mac. Is there 
any way I can check, any settings that should be set or something? I really 
don't want to lose my contacts if at all possible.

Many thanks for any info or even other suggestions on how to make the 
rebuilding of the iPhone safer or go more smoothly.

Danny:

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Re: Mac mini ram and hd questions

[John Panarese]

I bought an SSD drive from Crucial and saved about $200 from what it would 
have cost for 512 GB configured in the Mini.  I already had a 500 GB SATI 
drive, and you can buy a kit for installing the second drive from ifixit.com 
for about $69.  I had a sighted friend do the work, as I was not going to try 
anything that deep.  However, there is a nice video on youtube that walks one 
through the process.


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On Jan 23, 2013, at 6:58 PM, "Angelo"  wrote:

> If you are looking at the standard $599 mini, it's not upgradable. It's best 
> to do this after market
> - Original Message -
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Mac mini ram and hd questions
> 
> Well, maybe I missed it somehow, but when I was configuring a mini yesterday, 
> I only saw one option to pick a drive, and there are 3 options. I also didn't 
> see where it said whether the conventional hard drive portion of the fusion 
> drive for the Mini would be the 5400 rpm or whether it is upgraded to 7200 
> rpm. I'm kind of disappointed that the standard drive is still 5400. I'd like 
> to get an ssd and a conventional 7200 rpm drive for a total of 2 drives, but 
> didn't see that option. I'm keeping this on list rather than write directly, 
> because I figure it could be of use to others.
> 
> Mary
> 
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Re: Mac mini ram and hd questions

[Esther]

Hello Mary,

I believe that the people who have configured the Mac Mini with 2 hard
drives ordered the Mac mini with OS X Server model ($999). This model
has options to upgrade the two hard drives.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

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Re: Mac mini ram and hd questions

[Mary Otten]

No, I'm looking at the next Mini up from the 599 one. I think it is $799.00 
prior to any upgrading.

Mary

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Re: Sinking apps from my iPhone to the mac.

[Lisette Wesseling]

Hi Danny
I'm relatively new at this myself. But if you have iCloud turned on on your 
phone and mac, , and have contacts checked in there it should work absolutely 
fine. I recently restored my iPad from scratch, and once I turned iCloud on in 
settings, the contacts all came back from the cloud onto my iPad. I've had the 
occasional issue with multiple contacts being generated, but they are easy to 
delete, and I have not lost anything. iCloud is just under settings.
Good luck.

Lisette
, 
On 24/01/2013, at 1:22 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:

> I'm reseting my iPhone and starting from scratch as I've had corrupted 
> backups for a couple of years and can't handle the issues any more.
> 
> I've backed up all the apps to iTunes, have my podcast list in OPML in an 
> email but want to be sure all my contacts are properly sinked with the mac. 
> Is there any way I can check, any settings that should be set or something? I 
> really don't want to lose my contacts if at all possible.
> 
> Many thanks for any info or even other suggestions on how to make the 
> rebuilding of the iPhone safer or go more smoothly.
> 
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Re: Mac mini ram and hd questions

[Mary Otten]

Oh, well, I wasn't looking for the server. I assume the os on that is 
different. 

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Re: Mac mini ram and hd questions

[Mary Otten]

John,
The ssd offered by Apple is only 256. No 512GB for the Mini. At least, I didn't 
see it yesterday when I was looking. I'm sure it would be big bucks. The 256gb 
one is 300 bucks more than the stock configuration which is a 1500-gb or -tb, 
forget which,  5400rpm conventional drive. I like the sound of the fusion 
drive; seems to make a lot of sense but not sure how it would play out with a 
system running a vm and Windows.

Lots of good food for thought in the responses here.

Mary

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Re: Sinking apps from my iPhone to the mac.

[Danny Noonan]

Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, it's when I restore from iCloud or from a 
backup on my mac that is the problem. As the os is corrupted on my phone, 
restoring from a backup just puts the corruption straight back onto my phone 
again.

I literally have to start over and set the phone up as new.

Kind regards,
Danny:

On 24/01/2013, at 11:43 AM, Lisette Wesseling  
wrote:

> Hi Danny
> I'm relatively new at this myself. But if you have iCloud turned on on your 
> phone and mac, , and have contacts checked in there it should work absolutely 
> fine. I recently restored my iPad from scratch, and once I turned iCloud on 
> in settings, the contacts all came back from the cloud onto my iPad. I've had 
> the occasional issue with multiple contacts being generated, but they are 
> easy to delete, and I have not lost anything. iCloud is just under settings.
> Good luck.
> 
> Lisette
> , 
> On 24/01/2013, at 1:22 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
> 
>> I'm reseting my iPhone and starting from scratch as I've had corrupted 
>> backups for a couple of years and can't handle the issues any more.
>> 
>> I've backed up all the apps to iTunes, have my podcast list in OPML in an 
>> email but want to be sure all my contacts are properly sinked with the mac. 
>> Is there any way I can check, any settings that should be set or something? 
>> I really don't want to lose my contacts if at all possible.
>> 
>> Many thanks for any info or even other suggestions on how to make the 
>> rebuilding of the iPhone safer or go more smoothly.
>> 
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Re: Sinking apps from my iPhone to the mac.

[Red.Falcon]

Hi there!
Well if all contacts are in your Contacts on the Mac then you can sync them 
from the iPhone when plugged into the Mac I've got mine in groups on my Mac and 
just select which groups I want to go onto my iPhone in the iPhone area in 
iTunes and the same for music, apps and there is other options as well!
hth Colin

On 24 Jan 2013, at 00:52, Danny Noonan  wrote:

> Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, it's when I restore from iCloud or from a 
> backup on my mac that is the problem. As the os is corrupted on my phone, 
> restoring from a backup just puts the corruption straight back onto my phone 
> again.
> 
> I literally have to start over and set the phone up as new.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Danny:
> 
> On 24/01/2013, at 11:43 AM, Lisette Wesseling  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Danny
>> I'm relatively new at this myself. But if you have iCloud turned on on your 
>> phone and mac, , and have contacts checked in there it should work 
>> absolutely fine. I recently restored my iPad from scratch, and once I turned 
>> iCloud on in settings, the contacts all came back from the cloud onto my 
>> iPad. I've had the occasional issue with multiple contacts being generated, 
>> but they are easy to delete, and I have not lost anything. iCloud is just 
>> under settings.
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> Lisette
>> , 
>> On 24/01/2013, at 1:22 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm reseting my iPhone and starting from scratch as I've had corrupted 
>>> backups for a couple of years and can't handle the issues any more.
>>> 
>>> I've backed up all the apps to iTunes, have my podcast list in OPML in an 
>>> email but want to be sure all my contacts are properly sinked with the mac. 
>>> Is there any way I can check, any settings that should be set or something? 
>>> I really don't want to lose my contacts if at all possible.
>>> 
>>> Many thanks for any info or even other suggestions on how to make the 
>>> rebuilding of the iPhone safer or go more smoothly.
>>> 
>>> Danny:
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Re: Mac mini ram and hd questions

[Mary Otten]

Angelo, which manufacturer was your ram that you bought after market from 
Amazon? 
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Re: Sinking apps from my iPhone to the mac.

[Danny Noonan]

Groups as in an app or is this something within iTunes or Contacts?

Thanks.


On 24/01/2013, at 12:00 PM, Red.Falcon  wrote:

> Hi there!
> Well if all contacts are in your Contacts on the Mac then you can sync them 
> from the iPhone when plugged into the Mac I've got mine in groups on my Mac 
> and just select which groups I want to go onto my iPhone in the iPhone area 
> in iTunes and the same for music, apps and there is other options as well!
> hth Colin
> 
> On 24 Jan 2013, at 00:52, Danny Noonan  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, it's when I restore from iCloud or from 
>> a backup on my mac that is the problem. As the os is corrupted on my phone, 
>> restoring from a backup just puts the corruption straight back onto my phone 
>> again.
>> 
>> I literally have to start over and set the phone up as new.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Danny:
>> 
>> On 24/01/2013, at 11:43 AM, Lisette Wesseling  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Danny
>>> I'm relatively new at this myself. But if you have iCloud turned on on your 
>>> phone and mac, , and have contacts checked in there it should work 
>>> absolutely fine. I recently restored my iPad from scratch, and once I 
>>> turned iCloud on in settings, the contacts all came back from the cloud 
>>> onto my iPad. I've had the occasional issue with multiple contacts being 
>>> generated, but they are easy to delete, and I have not lost anything. 
>>> iCloud is just under settings.
>>> Good luck.
>>> 
>>> Lisette
>>> , 
>>> On 24/01/2013, at 1:22 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
>>> 
 I'm reseting my iPhone and starting from scratch as I've had corrupted 
 backups for a couple of years and can't handle the issues any more.
 
 I've backed up all the apps to iTunes, have my podcast list in OPML in an 
 email but want to be sure all my contacts are properly sinked with the 
 mac. Is there any way I can check, any settings that should be set or 
 something? I really don't want to lose my contacts if at all possible.
 
 Many thanks for any info or even other suggestions on how to make the 
 rebuilding of the iPhone safer or go more smoothly.
 
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RE: Mac mini ram and hd questions

[Kliphton]

I have a company that I had build my mini the way I wanted. And they back it
with a 3 year worentee, pretty much build it the way you want.  I got a 2012
mac mini, with 2 SSD's, stripped in to 1, for 1TB of hard drive space, 2.6
GHZ quad core processor, and 16 gigs of ram.  But they will configure it
anyway you want them to.  The name of the company is called "retail proof"
There number is
(717) 673-8245
And the email address is
sa...@retailproof.com

Great customer service, and will even over night it for you, of course that
costs a little more.  Have had mine for almost 2 months now, and I have no
complaints!  If you decide to call them, tell them Kliph sent you.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
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Subject: Re: Mac mini ram and hd questions

Well, maybe I missed it somehow, but when I was configuring a mini
yesterday, I only saw one option to pick a drive, and there are 3 options. I
also didn't see where it said whether the conventional hard drive portion of
the fusion drive for the Mini would be the 5400 rpm or whether it is
upgraded to 7200 rpm. I'm kind of disappointed that the standard drive is
still 5400. I'd like to get an ssd and a conventional 7200 rpm drive for a
total of 2 drives, but didn't see that option. I'm keeping this on list
rather than write directly, because I figure it could be of use to others.

Mary

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RE: Mac mini ram and hd questions

[Kliphton]

Nope, it's the same.  You can actually by the server from the app store.  So
not getting the server edition isn't going to hurt you.

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Oh, well, I wasn't looking for the server. I assume the os on that is
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Re: Sinking apps from my iPhone to the mac.

[Red.Falcon]

Hi again!
I've set up groups in contacts on my Mac but if you open your contacts on your 
Mac then you can see which contacts you have in there and see if any are 
missing and just add them yourself then you can get them back onto your iPhone 
from there! :]
hth Colin

On 24 Jan 2013, at 01:03, Danny Noonan  wrote:

> Groups as in an app or is this something within iTunes or Contacts?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> On 24/01/2013, at 12:00 PM, Red.Falcon  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi there!
>> Well if all contacts are in your Contacts on the Mac then you can sync them 
>> from the iPhone when plugged into the Mac I've got mine in groups on my Mac 
>> and just select which groups I want to go onto my iPhone in the iPhone area 
>> in iTunes and the same for music, apps and there is other options as well!
>> hth Colin
>> 
>> On 24 Jan 2013, at 00:52, Danny Noonan  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, it's when I restore from iCloud or from 
>>> a backup on my mac that is the problem. As the os is corrupted on my phone, 
>>> restoring from a backup just puts the corruption straight back onto my 
>>> phone again.
>>> 
>>> I literally have to start over and set the phone up as new.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Danny:
>>> 
>>> On 24/01/2013, at 11:43 AM, Lisette Wesseling  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Danny
 I'm relatively new at this myself. But if you have iCloud turned on on 
 your phone and mac, , and have contacts checked in there it should work 
 absolutely fine. I recently restored my iPad from scratch, and once I 
 turned iCloud on in settings, the contacts all came back from the cloud 
 onto my iPad. I've had the occasional issue with multiple contacts being 
 generated, but they are easy to delete, and I have not lost anything. 
 iCloud is just under settings.
 Good luck.
 
 Lisette
 , 
 On 24/01/2013, at 1:22 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
 
> I'm reseting my iPhone and starting from scratch as I've had corrupted 
> backups for a couple of years and can't handle the issues any more.
> 
> I've backed up all the apps to iTunes, have my podcast list in OPML in an 
> email but want to be sure all my contacts are properly sinked with the 
> mac. Is there any way I can check, any settings that should be set or 
> something? I really don't want to lose my contacts if at all possible.
> 
> Many thanks for any info or even other suggestions on how to make the 
> rebuilding of the iPhone safer or go more smoothly.
> 
> Danny:
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Re: Sinking apps from my iPhone to the mac.

[Lisette Wesseling]

Danny
As I understand it, syncing contacts with iCloud is different  from 
restoring from a previous back up. 
I think there is a difference between restoring from a previous backup, which 
you are not wanting to do, versus simply syncing your contacts from the cloud 
once the iPhone has been set up from scratch.
I set up my iPad from scratch ie. I did not restore from a previous backup. 
Once I set it up as a new iphone with my Apple ID, and turned iCloud on, the 
contacts appeared back on the phone. This has nothing to do with the IOS being 
corrupt.

Syncing and restoring from previous backups are different things. I'm sure 
somebody else can explain it better than me.

Lisette
 
On 24/01/2013, at 1:52 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:

> Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, it's when I restore from iCloud or from a 
> backup on my mac that is the problem. As the os is corrupted on my phone, 
> restoring from a backup just puts the corruption straight back onto my phone 
> again.
> 
> I literally have to start over and set the phone up as new.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Danny:
> 
> On 24/01/2013, at 11:43 AM, Lisette Wesseling  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Danny
>> I'm relatively new at this myself. But if you have iCloud turned on on your 
>> phone and mac, , and have contacts checked in there it should work 
>> absolutely fine. I recently restored my iPad from scratch, and once I turned 
>> iCloud on in settings, the contacts all came back from the cloud onto my 
>> iPad. I've had the occasional issue with multiple contacts being generated, 
>> but they are easy to delete, and I have not lost anything. iCloud is just 
>> under settings.
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> Lisette
>> , 
>> On 24/01/2013, at 1:22 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm reseting my iPhone and starting from scratch as I've had corrupted 
>>> backups for a couple of years and can't handle the issues any more.
>>> 
>>> I've backed up all the apps to iTunes, have my podcast list in OPML in an 
>>> email but want to be sure all my contacts are properly sinked with the mac. 
>>> Is there any way I can check, any settings that should be set or something? 
>>> I really don't want to lose my contacts if at all possible.
>>> 
>>> Many thanks for any info or even other suggestions on how to make the 
>>> rebuilding of the iPhone safer or go more smoothly.
>>> 
>>> Danny:
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Re: Mac mini ram and hd questions

[angelo ercolamento]

Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800) Laptop Memory 
(CMSX16GX3M2A... 
Sold by Amazon.com LLC
hth!

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> Angelo, which manufacturer was your ram that you bought after market from 
> Amazon? 
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Re: Mac mini ram and hd questions

[angelo ercolamento]

I bought the mid mini quad core I seven 4gb's of ram, and seven 99 was the 
price, why can't I use the number seven key? it says Hidy on hidy off….. weird
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Re: Sinking apps from my iPhone to the mac.

[Danny Noonan]

We're both thinking of the same thing in different ways. I'll be making sure 
all my contacts are on my mac, then when I set my phone up again, I'll be 
copying them back onto the phone. I was thinking through iTunes but as you 
mentioned, they will sink up via iCloud as well so that could be a good option 
too. I guess I was stuck thinking of iCloud as a backup method when I use it 
all the time as a sinking tool.

Thanks.
Danny:

On 24/01/2013, at 12:24 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
wrote:

> Danny
> As I understand it, syncing contacts with iCloud is different  from 
> restoring from a previous back up. 
> I think there is a difference between restoring from a previous backup, which 
> you are not wanting to do, versus simply syncing your contacts from the cloud 
> once the iPhone has been set up from scratch.
> I set up my iPad from scratch ie. I did not restore from a previous backup. 
> Once I set it up as a new iphone with my Apple ID, and turned iCloud on, the 
> contacts appeared back on the phone. This has nothing to do with the IOS 
> being corrupt.
> 
> Syncing and restoring from previous backups are different things. I'm sure 
> somebody else can explain it better than me.
> 
> Lisette
> 
> On 24/01/2013, at 1:52 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, it's when I restore from iCloud or from 
>> a backup on my mac that is the problem. As the os is corrupted on my phone, 
>> restoring from a backup just puts the corruption straight back onto my phone 
>> again.
>> 
>> I literally have to start over and set the phone up as new.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Danny:
>> 
>> On 24/01/2013, at 11:43 AM, Lisette Wesseling  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Danny
>>> I'm relatively new at this myself. But if you have iCloud turned on on your 
>>> phone and mac, , and have contacts checked in there it should work 
>>> absolutely fine. I recently restored my iPad from scratch, and once I 
>>> turned iCloud on in settings, the contacts all came back from the cloud 
>>> onto my iPad. I've had the occasional issue with multiple contacts being 
>>> generated, but they are easy to delete, and I have not lost anything. 
>>> iCloud is just under settings.
>>> Good luck.
>>> 
>>> Lisette
>>> , 
>>> On 24/01/2013, at 1:22 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
>>> 
 I'm reseting my iPhone and starting from scratch as I've had corrupted 
 backups for a couple of years and can't handle the issues any more.
 
 I've backed up all the apps to iTunes, have my podcast list in OPML in an 
 email but want to be sure all my contacts are properly sinked with the 
 mac. Is there any way I can check, any settings that should be set or 
 something? I really don't want to lose my contacts if at all possible.
 
 Many thanks for any info or even other suggestions on how to make the 
 rebuilding of the iPhone safer or go more smoothly.
 
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Re: Sinking apps from my iPhone to the mac.

[Esther]

Hello Danny,

Lisette and Colin have pretty much covered this issue, but I'll mention one 
apparent difference when you do your sync of Contacts from iCloud instead of 
from iTunes: under iOS 6 if you created any email groups for your contacts the 
groups  will be synced to your iPhone if you sync via iTunes, and they will not 
be on your iPhone if you sync your contacts via iCloud.  This has annoyed 
several people -- especially PC users who do not have access to a Mac to sync 
their contacts via iTunes.

But they are correct that your sync of Contacts should not be corrupted.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Jan 23, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Danny Noonan wrote:

> We're both thinking of the same thing in different ways. I'll be making sure 
> all my contacts are on my mac, then when I set my phone up again, I'll be 
> copying them back onto the phone. I was thinking through iTunes but as you 
> mentioned, they will sink up via iCloud as well so that could be a good 
> option too. I guess I was stuck thinking of iCloud as a backup method when I 
> use it all the time as a sinking tool.
> 
> Thanks.
> Danny:
> 
> On 24/01/2013, at 12:24 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
> wrote:
> 
>> Danny
>> As I understand it, syncing contacts with iCloud is different  from 
>> restoring from a previous back up. 
>> I think there is a difference between restoring from a previous backup, 
>> which you are not wanting to do, versus simply syncing your contacts from 
>> the cloud once the iPhone has been set up from scratch.
>> I set up my iPad from scratch ie. I did not restore from a previous backup. 
>> Once I set it up as a new iphone with my Apple ID, and turned iCloud on, the 
>> contacts appeared back on the phone. This has nothing to do with the IOS 
>> being corrupt.
>> 
>> Syncing and restoring from previous backups are different things. I'm sure 
>> somebody else can explain it better than me.
>> 
>> Lisette
>> 
>> On 24/01/2013, at 1:52 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, it's when I restore from iCloud or from 
>>> a backup on my mac that is the problem. As the os is corrupted on my phone, 
>>> restoring from a backup just puts the corruption straight back onto my 
>>> phone again.
>>> 
>>> I literally have to start over and set the phone up as new.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Danny:
>>> 
>>> On 24/01/2013, at 11:43 AM, Lisette Wesseling  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Danny
 I'm relatively new at this myself. But if you have iCloud turned on on 
 your phone and mac, , and have contacts checked in there it should work 
 absolutely fine. I recently restored my iPad from scratch, and once I 
 turned iCloud on in settings, the contacts all came back from the cloud 
 onto my iPad. I've had the occasional issue with multiple contacts being 
 generated, but they are easy to delete, and I have not lost anything. 
 iCloud is just under settings.
 Good luck.
 
 Lisette
 , 
 On 24/01/2013, at 1:22 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
 
> I'm reseting my iPhone and starting from scratch as I've had corrupted 
> backups for a couple of years and can't handle the issues any more.
> 
> I've backed up all the apps to iTunes, have my podcast list in OPML in an 
> email but want to be sure all my contacts are properly sinked with the 
> mac. Is there any way I can check, any settings that should be set or 
> something? I really don't want to lose my contacts if at all possible.
> 
> Many thanks for any info or even other suggestions on how to make the 
> rebuilding of the iPhone safer or go more smoothly.
> 
> Danny:
> 

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Re: Mac mini ram and hd questions

[Mary Otten]

Thanks, Kliph. I will look in to that company.
 It sounds like a good thing.

Mary

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Re: Grabbing a web site?

[Esther]

Hello Bill,

I agree with Chris that I would use wget from Terminal to grab a web
site and its dependent pages as you requested.  However, if you want
to look for a GUI based solution, you might try explore a free app
that you can get from the Mac App store named SiteSucker. This
question came up on the mac-access list, and most of the responses
were to use wget or curl from the Terminal.  But the poster was asking
on behalf of a friend, who didn't feel comfortable using Terminal.
You can read my post about SiteSucker and another app named Maria in
the Mail Archive post at:
• Re: download managers.
http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access%40mac-access.net/msg12870.html

This post gives the links to SiteSucker, and a few comments about
trying it.  If you read two more posts down the thread (using Control-
n to go to the next to posts) you can read the statement about Maria.
I'm afraid we didn't spend very much time on this topic, since the
person who posed the question had already suggested to his friend that
the best way was to use wget, and the other people responding about
alternatives basically also agreed that wget was what they would
recommend.  And since the friend in question was not a list member,
and the questions were being relayed at second hand, there was not
much incentive to investigate in more detail .

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther


On Jan 23, 12:33 pm, Chris Blouch  wrote:
> Well, if you want to attempt it I'd be happy to break things down a bit.
>
> CB
>
> On 1/23/13 5:16 PM, Bill Holton wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi.
>
> > Thanks for the info, but I think you’re about five levels above my pay
> > grade, mac wise.
>
> > Thanks.
>
> > BILL HOLTON
>
> > Email:b...@bholton.com 
>
> > P:386-624-6309 C: 386-624-3255
>
> > Home Office:1520 Loughton ST
>
> > DeLand, FL32720
>
> > *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris Blouch
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 23, 2013 5:13 PM
> > *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> > *Subject:* Re: Grabbing a web site?
>
> > I don't know of a Safari plugin but if you have MacPorts installed you
> > get the open source wget tool and then use it in terminal to grab a
> > bunch of pages and store them on your hard drive:
>
> > wget -mcrpk -o process.loghttp://www.abcd.com
>
> > Parameters:
>
> > O - output of the process is written to a file instead of the display.
> > In this case I logged everything to process.log
> > M - Mirror - copies timestamps and recursion
> > C - Continues a partly-downloaded transfer. Probably not as big an
> > issue on a good connection
> > R - Recursion, but this might not have been needed with the M. Figured
> > it didn't hurt.
> > P - Download any page dependencies like CSS, images etc.
> > K - Convert all links to relative URLs so it doesn't keep trying to
> > link off to the original site or path
>
> > It will crawl every link of every page and store it all in your
> > current folder. Then you can webshare that folder to make your own
> > mini version of the site or just open the top level file in Safari.
> > The latter method may not always work since modern sites use
> > javascript ajax stuff to suck in piecesparts from a web server which
> > is not what is happening when you just open a file directly from your
> > hard drive.
>
> > CB
>
> > On 1/23/13 4:00 PM, Bill Holton wrote:
>
> > Hi.
>
> > Does anyone know of an accessible Safari plugin or stand alone app
> > that will go to a web site and download everything for off-linevieweing?
>
> > Thanks.
>
> > BILL HOLTON
>
> > Email:b...@bholton.com 
>
> > P:386-624-6309 C: 386-624-3255
>
> > Home Office:1520 Loughton ST
>
> > DeLand, FL32720
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Re: Sinking apps from my iPhone to the mac.

[Danny Noonan]

Thanks. I have them in groups on my phone thanks to an old app that was once vo 
friendly but isn't any more. I'm thinking that it is probably worth making 
groups on the mac and putting them on via iTunes then.

I greatly appreciate all the help from the list on this and every other topic.

Have a wonderful week all.

Danny:

On 24/01/2013, at 1:05 PM, Esther  wrote:

> Hello Danny,
> 
> Lisette and Colin have pretty much covered this issue, but I'll mention one 
> apparent difference when you do your sync of Contacts from iCloud instead of 
> from iTunes: under iOS 6 if you created any email groups for your contacts 
> the groups  will be synced to your iPhone if you sync via iTunes, and they 
> will not be on your iPhone if you sync your contacts via iCloud.  This has 
> annoyed several people -- especially PC users who do not have access to a Mac 
> to sync their contacts via iTunes.
> 
> But they are correct that your sync of Contacts should not be corrupted.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Jan 23, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Danny Noonan wrote:
> 
>> We're both thinking of the same thing in different ways. I'll be making sure 
>> all my contacts are on my mac, then when I set my phone up again, I'll be 
>> copying them back onto the phone. I was thinking through iTunes but as you 
>> mentioned, they will sink up via iCloud as well so that could be a good 
>> option too. I guess I was stuck thinking of iCloud as a backup method when I 
>> use it all the time as a sinking tool.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> Danny:
>> 
>> On 24/01/2013, at 12:24 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Danny
>>> As I understand it, syncing contacts with iCloud is different  from 
>>> restoring from a previous back up. 
>>> I think there is a difference between restoring from a previous backup, 
>>> which you are not wanting to do, versus simply syncing your contacts from 
>>> the cloud once the iPhone has been set up from scratch.
>>> I set up my iPad from scratch ie. I did not restore from a previous backup. 
>>> Once I set it up as a new iphone with my Apple ID, and turned iCloud on, 
>>> the contacts appeared back on the phone. This has nothing to do with the 
>>> IOS being corrupt.
>>> 
>>> Syncing and restoring from previous backups are different things. I'm sure 
>>> somebody else can explain it better than me.
>>> 
>>> Lisette
>>> 
>>> On 24/01/2013, at 1:52 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
>>> 
 Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, it's when I restore from iCloud or 
 from a backup on my mac that is the problem. As the os is corrupted on my 
 phone, restoring from a backup just puts the corruption straight back onto 
 my phone again.
 
 I literally have to start over and set the phone up as new.
 
 Kind regards,
 Danny:
 
 On 24/01/2013, at 11:43 AM, Lisette Wesseling  
 wrote:
 
> Hi Danny
> I'm relatively new at this myself. But if you have iCloud turned on on 
> your phone and mac, , and have contacts checked in there it should work 
> absolutely fine. I recently restored my iPad from scratch, and once I 
> turned iCloud on in settings, the contacts all came back from the cloud 
> onto my iPad. I've had the occasional issue with multiple contacts being 
> generated, but they are easy to delete, and I have not lost anything. 
> iCloud is just under settings.
> Good luck.
> 
> Lisette
> , 
> On 24/01/2013, at 1:22 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
> 
>> I'm reseting my iPhone and starting from scratch as I've had corrupted 
>> backups for a couple of years and can't handle the issues any more.
>> 
>> I've backed up all the apps to iTunes, have my podcast list in OPML in 
>> an email but want to be sure all my contacts are properly sinked with 
>> the mac. Is there any way I can check, any settings that should be set 
>> or something? I really don't want to lose my contacts if at all possible.
>> 
>> Many thanks for any info or even other suggestions on how to make the 
>> rebuilding of the iPhone safer or go more smoothly.
>> 
>> Danny:
>> 
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Re: Mac mini ram and hd questions

[Mary Otten]

Angelo,
You bought the MinI was looking at yesterday. quad core, and upgraded to 16gb, 
if I could put another hd in there, it would be good to go for a few years, I 
should think.

Mary

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Re: Mac mini ram and hd questions

[Mary Otten]

Kliph,

I just went to the site www.retailproof.com, and what they have are various 
types of tiles. Phone number is right. What am I missing here?

Mary

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Re: Sinking apps from my iPhone to the mac.

[Esther]

Hi Danny,

I'll correct my earlier statement: if you want to preserve your email groups, 
you can still sync them from iCloud.  However, they have to be set up under 
your contacts on your Mac computer.  And the way to display the email group 
contacts is, to say the least, unintuitive.  I did an iCloud sync of my 
contacts to my iPhone 5, and I though these did not come across. But under iOS 
6, when you navigate to the "Groups" screen on your iPhone you get a listing of 
groups by name, along with an announcement of whether the group is "selected".  
Double tapping any of these groups only changes the designation from between 
"selected" or not (i.e., no additional VoiceOver status announcement).  Under 
iOS 5, when you double tapped on a group, the address book entries associated 
with that group were displayed.  In order to display the contacts of a group 
under iOS 6, you need to go through the list of groups, double tapping, so that 
only one group is announced as "selected". Then, double tap the "Done" button 
in the top right corner.  That will display the address book listing of the 
selected group (or groups).  If you have more than one group selected, then 
double tapping the "Done" button displays the merged results of your selected 
groups.  Since one of the entries is always "All Contacts", if that group is 
selected and you double tap "Done", it will seem as though there is no 
individual display of groups.

Once again, the groups have to be created under contacts on your Mac.  But you 
can do an iCloud Sync (if you have a Mac computer), and get your contacts 
organized in email groups to your iPhone.  I just thought the iCloud sync 
wasn't working because I couldn't see the individual groups.  I only got an 
upgraded iPhone 5 in December, and my iPhone 4 was kept on iOS 5 because the 
person who would be using it after me wanted to keep Google Maps.

Also, don't have both iTunes sync and iCloud sync enabled for your contacts if 
you want to avoid duplicates.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther


On Jan 23, 2013, at 4:49 PM, Danny Noonan wrote:

> Thanks. I have them in groups on my phone thanks to an old app that was once 
> vo friendly but isn't any more. I'm thinking that it is probably worth making 
> groups on the mac and putting them on via iTunes then.
> 
> I greatly appreciate all the help from the list on this and every other topic.
> 
> Have a wonderful week all.
> 
> Danny:
> 
> On 24/01/2013, at 1:05 PM, Esther  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Danny,
>> 
>> Lisette and Colin have pretty much covered this issue, but I'll mention one 
>> apparent difference when you do your sync of Contacts from iCloud instead of 
>> from iTunes: under iOS 6 if you created any email groups for your contacts 
>> the groups  will be synced to your iPhone if you sync via iTunes, and they 
>> will not be on your iPhone if you sync your contacts via iCloud.  This has 
>> annoyed several people -- especially PC users who do not have access to a 
>> Mac to sync their contacts via iTunes.
>> 
>> But they are correct that your sync of Contacts should not be corrupted.
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Jan 23, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Danny Noonan wrote:
>> 
>>> We're both thinking of the same thing in different ways. I'll be making 
>>> sure all my contacts are on my mac, then when I set my phone up again, I'll 
>>> be copying them back onto the phone. I was thinking through iTunes but as 
>>> you mentioned, they will sink up via iCloud as well so that could be a good 
>>> option too. I guess I was stuck thinking of iCloud as a backup method when 
>>> I use it all the time as a sinking tool.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> Danny:
>>> 
>>> On 24/01/2013, at 12:24 PM, Lisette Wesseling  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Danny
 As I understand it, syncing contacts with iCloud is different  from 
 restoring from a previous back up. 
 I think there is a difference between restoring from a previous backup, 
 which you are not wanting to do, versus simply syncing your contacts from 
 the cloud once the iPhone has been set up from scratch.
 I set up my iPad from scratch ie. I did not restore from a previous 
 backup. Once I set it up as a new iphone with my Apple ID, and turned 
 iCloud on, the contacts appeared back on the phone. This has nothing to do 
 with the IOS being corrupt.
 
 Syncing and restoring from previous backups are different things. I'm sure 
 somebody else can explain it better than me.
 
 Lisette
 
 On 24/01/2013, at 1:52 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
 
> Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, it's when I restore from iCloud or 
> from a backup on my mac that is the problem. As the os is corrupted on my 
> phone, restoring from a backup just puts the corruption straight back 
> onto my phone again.
> 
> I literally have to start over and set the phone up as new.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Danny:
> 
> On 24/01/2013, at 11:43 AM, Lisette Wes

Re: Mac mini ram and had questions

[Chris Blouch]

Don't forget that Apple has refurbished units for a bit cheaper as well. 
Here is a dualie MacMini for $759 with 4GB RAM:


http://store.apple.com/us/product/FC936LL/A/refurbished-mac-mini-with-lion-server-20ghz-quad-core-intel-core-i7

CB

On 1/23/13 6:40 PM, Kliphton wrote:

It depends on what you want, and how much your trying to spend.  You can get
a 2012 mac mini, with 2 drives in it for a pretty good price.  Now it
depends if you want them to be your standard HD, or you want SSD's.  I know
for a fact you can get either one.  8GB of ram is plenty to handle fusion
and mountain lion for what you want to do.  So answer the above questions,
and I will point you in the right direction.  My email is
kliph...@gmail.com
If you want to contact me off list.

Kliphton Senior
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 5:33 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mac mini ram and hd questions

I was certain that I had read somewhere that you could have two drives in a
mac Mini, 2012 model. But on the Apple site, the build to order options
don't allow for that. Am I nuts? Or is this a possible after market add on?
I know there aren't many of those. Also curious about peoples' experiences
with ram. I'm thinking of the 8 gb upgrade, although there is a 16-gb for
200 dollars more than the 8. I want to run Windows and Mac os, because I
still need MS Word and still use k1000. Hence the interest in two drives. I
don't do any real big deal processing things on the Mac or Windows, for that
matter. But if I had a vm running and email up and software speech and
scanning program etc, would the 8 gb suffice? I'd hate to buy an IMac,
because I don't need the display nor another keyboard nor a mouse, so it
just seems kind of wasteful; hence my interest in another mini. The one I
have now is a bit over 3 years old and still going strong, but it runs sl,
and I'm starting to have issues, like not being able to use the nightly
webkit builds anymore, and I suspect that the web issues are only going to
get worse, not better.

Mary

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RE: Mac mini ram and hd questions

[Kliphton]

I never went to there site.  I gave you an email address, and a phone
number, ask for Alex.

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Kliph,

I just went to the site www.retailproof.com, and what they have are various
types of tiles. Phone number is right. What am I missing here?

Mary

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