Re: Fed up with everything being busy busy busy

[Oriol Gómez]

Here's the thing, VoiceOver is kind of strange in that sense. I don't
understand why vo can't work with programs just like other screen
readers do, I mean we have 4 processor cores or 2 or even more for
something. You alt tab on the mac and it's still busy busy busy busy
because a program is doing something on the computer. I find it highly
frustrating.

On 12/3/12, Chris Bruinenberg  wrote:
> You can check the hard drive space under about this mac under the menubar.
> I don't have the sidebar issues.
> I'm sorry.
> Maybe a clean install should help.
>
> On Dec 2, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>
>> Ok doesn't seem to be anything running that shouldn't been trying to
>> find out how full my hard drive is and can't believe I can't find
>> this. Where is it listed? also does anyone else have this problem.
>> When in the finder sidebar, I try to arrow down through the side bar,
>> and every time I get to air drop it boots me out of the side bar,
>> quite annoying anyway around this? I am vieing everything in list
>> mode. Thanks
>>
>> On Dec 2, 2:02 pm, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> Would love to hear if anyone has a solution to this. In the past week
>>> every program I run is constantly busy busy busy almost making my mac
>>> unusable. I am using an Imac 2010 running the latest mountain lion
>>> operating system. It used to be that I just dealt with busy in safari.
>>> Now Itunes, mail, news rack, andpages, and numbers are all having busy
>>> busy problems. Do I need to reinstall Mt. Lion? Does anyone know if
>>> this will correct the problem? I have tried restarting and shutting
>>> everything down, but it still doesn't fix the busy busy problems. If
>>> anyone has a step by step clean install, please share the link. Thanks
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captcha solving service for the mac.

[Adrienne Sinclair Chalmers]

OK guys, I realise we've probably flogged this horse to death, but reading 
through all the posts, it suddenly occurred to me that, if apps or whatever 
exist to solve captchas, what on earth use are they as a security method 
anyway? 

Best

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Deleting audible books in iTunes for Donna

[Allison Manzino]

Hi Donna,

I'm sure you have tried this already, but how about going to the audio books 
folder under home/music/itunes/media/audiobooks? Just a thought. I was able to 
successfully delete audible books this way. I hope this helps. I  havne't tried 
the way you have with Itunes yet. Have a great day.

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using trackpad on Macbook

[Allison Manzino]

Hi all,

I'm wondering if anyone has some tips on using the trackpad. I shop at a chain 
store here in Spain. TO add things to the basket, you have to click it with the 
trackpad not the keyboard. So, never having used the trackpad, I am unsure how 
to accomplish clicks and focusing it where I need it. Is it similar to the 
iphone? Any assistance you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thank you 
kindly.

Sincerely,
Allison
 
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breath away

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Re: using trackpad on Macbook

[Harry Hogue]

Hello,

In VO Utility, you can adjust the delay of VoiceOver speaking when the mouse 
pointer is moved.  I have mine set to no delay, so the moment I move over 
something with my finger, VoiceOver speaks it, and I find that very helpful.

I have just done a search through the VO Utility, and I am sorry to say that I 
do not remember where this option is, now.  If anyone else has a clue, they 
should feel free to chime in.

I hope this is helpful, however.  Sometimes, also, I find it helpful to first 
route the mouse pointer to the VoiceOver curser with VO-command-F5 before 
finding my place with the trackpad, as it gets me more or less where I need to 
be.

Thanks,

Harry

On dic 3, 2012, at 3:28 a.m., Allison Manzino  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I'm wondering if anyone has some tips on using the trackpad. I shop at a 
> chain store here in Spain. TO add things to the basket, you have to click it 
> with the trackpad not the keyboard. So, never having used the trackpad, I am 
> unsure how to accomplish clicks and focusing it where I need it. Is it 
> similar to the iphone? Any assistance you can provide would be greatly 
> appreciated. Thank you kindly.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Allison
>  
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> breath away
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Re: helping a blind friend get technology

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi Alex. If you don't like Safari's approach to browsing the internet, perhaps 
you should try Chrome. Chromevox has been updated significantly so you can use 
up and down arrow keys like in Windows. In regards to your comment about 
replying to an email in Mail and getting the "busy" message, I am not 
reproducing this. I use mail in it's classic view that it had in Snow Leopard 
with headers turned off with no problems at all.

Shawn
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Re: Deleting audible books in iTunes for Donna

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Allison,

That's my next step. :)  But you've always been able to delete them from within 
iTunes before, so I was wondering if there was something I was missing.  I find 
it just much easier usually to be able to delete from within iTunes.

thanks for the suggestion.
Cheers,
Donna
On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:25 AM, Allison Manzino  wrote:

> Hi Donna,
> 
> I'm sure you have tried this already, but how about going to the audio books 
> folder under home/music/itunes/media/audiobooks? Just a thought. I was able 
> to successfully delete audible books this way. I hope this helps. I  havne't 
> tried the way you have with Itunes yet. Have a great day.
> 
> Allison
> 
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Re: VoiceOver stops interacting with HTML content on its own and the full screen mode also keeps getting disabled frequently

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi Rahul. When I used Safari in Lion in full screen, I noticed similar 
problems. Voiceover would only jump to the first visible heading that it saw 
and navigating was difficult all in all. I was hoping that Apple would fix 
these issues but I see they haven't. You might want to send this to Apple 
Accessibility so that they know of these issues and in the meantime don't run 
Safari in full screen.

Shawn
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Re: Clicking

[Craig J Dunlop]

What's weird! Is that it does not do it on my MacBook Pro with Mountain lion 
install. But on their Mac it does every time!


Sent from my iPhone 

On Dec 2, 2012, at 14:46, Scott Rumery  wrote:

> I have had this happen a few times and I have not been able to get it to 
> stop.  I just enter in my password and hit Return and as long as my password 
> is correct, all is right with the world again.
> 
> Scott Rumery
> 
> On Dec 2, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Craig J Dunlop  wrote:
> 
>> A friend of mine has a situation on their Mac I have not seen before. In 
>> Safari when on a secure edit field it continually makes a clicking sound 
>> even when not typing. Is there a way to diss able this clicking notification?
>> 
>> 
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SilverLight on the Mac?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

I'm looking at an online tool used at my university and it's telling me that I 
need to install Microsoft Silver Light.  I've never seen this on a Mac before.  
Has anyone installed Silver Light?  If so, how was the experience in terms of 
accessibility?
Cheers,
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Re: SilverLight on the Mac?

[erik burggraaf]

MLB.com used it for a year or two.  I installed it and it let me play my ball 
games, but forget about accessibility.  It's sketchy enough under windows.  If 
you have to do more than watch a video from start to finish or something you 
might be in pretty big trouble.

Have fun,

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On 2012-12-03, at 7:55 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I'm looking at an online tool used at my university and it's telling me that 
> I need to install Microsoft Silver Light.  I've never seen this on a Mac 
> before.  Has anyone installed Silver Light?  If so, how was the experience in 
> terms of accessibility?
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: SilverLight on the Mac?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Erik,

That's what I suspected.  thanks for the info.
Donna
On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:03 AM, erik burggraaf  wrote:

> MLB.com used it for a year or two.  I installed it and it let me play my ball 
> games, but forget about accessibility.  It's sketchy enough under windows.  
> If you have to do more than watch a video from start to finish or something 
> you might be in pretty big trouble.
> 
> Have fun,
> 
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> On 2012-12-03, at 7:55 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm looking at an online tool used at my university and it's telling me that 
>> I need to install Microsoft Silver Light.  I've never seen this on a Mac 
>> before.  Has anyone installed Silver Light?  If so, how was the experience 
>> in terms of accessibility?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Apple tv questions

[Søren Jensen]

Hi.
I have the following icons on my Apple tv which I can't figure out what are 
used for: MLB tv, NVA, Vidia, Flicker and WSJ Live. Does somebody know what 
those are used for, and where I can read more about it? I'm sorry if some of it 
is spelled wrong, but I don't know of any ways to get VOiceover to spell the 
icons, which would be handy when reading titles on movies etc.
Best regards:
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RE: Apple tv questions

[Daniel Miller]

The NBA and MLB TV icons are for watching basketball or baseball games from
the paid subscriptions the NBA and MLB offer.
Flickr is for posting pictures, and Vimio is like a youtube thing, but not
nearly as good in my eyes.

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Hi.
I have the following icons on my Apple tv which I can't figure out what are
used for: MLB tv, NVA, Vidia, Flicker and WSJ Live. Does somebody know what
those are used for, and where I can read more about it? I'm sorry if some of
it is spelled wrong, but I don't know of any ways to get VOiceover to spell
the icons, which would be handy when reading titles on movies etc.
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail & MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
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Re: using trackpad on Macbook

[Alex Hall]

Don't forget that vo can simulate a mouse click, which is usually sufficient. 
Get vo to what you have to click, then hit vo-cmd-f5 to route the mouse to that 
spot. Finlly, hit vo-shift-space to click once and see if that does the trick. 
If not, just use the routing command and physically click the mouse. Harry's 
suggestion of setting the mouse cursor delay is good as well as it lets you 
make sure you don't move the pointer if the simulated click fails to work.
On Dec 3, 2012, at 5:43 AM, Harry Hogue  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> In VO Utility, you can adjust the delay of VoiceOver speaking when the mouse 
> pointer is moved.  I have mine set to no delay, so the moment I move over 
> something with my finger, VoiceOver speaks it, and I find that very helpful.
> 
> I have just done a search through the VO Utility, and I am sorry to say that 
> I do not remember where this option is, now.  If anyone else has a clue, they 
> should feel free to chime in.
> 
> I hope this is helpful, however.  Sometimes, also, I find it helpful to first 
> route the mouse pointer to the VoiceOver curser with VO-command-F5 before 
> finding my place with the trackpad, as it gets me more or less where I need 
> to be.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Harry
> 
> On dic 3, 2012, at 3:28 a.m., Allison Manzino  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm wondering if anyone has some tips on using the trackpad. I shop at a 
>> chain store here in Spain. TO add things to the basket, you have to click it 
>> with the trackpad not the keyboard. So, never having used the trackpad, I am 
>> unsure how to accomplish clicks and focusing it where I need it. Is it 
>> similar to the iphone? Any assistance you can provide would be greatly 
>> appreciated. Thank you kindly.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> Allison
>>  
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>> our breath away
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Re: Apple tv questions

[Søren Jensen]

Hi Daniel.
thanks very much for your quick reply. I don't see how Flicker can be useful on 
an Apple tv if it's only used for  posting pictures. 
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail & MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
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Den 03/12/2012 kl. 14.39 skrev "Daniel Miller" :

> The NBA and MLB TV icons are for watching basketball or baseball games from
> the paid subscriptions the NBA and MLB offer.
> Flickr is for posting pictures, and Vimio is like a youtube thing, but not
> nearly as good in my eyes.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Søren Jensen
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 7:38 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple tv questions
> 
> Hi.
> I have the following icons on my Apple tv which I can't figure out what are
> used for: MLB tv, NVA, Vidia, Flicker and WSJ Live. Does somebody know what
> those are used for, and where I can read more about it? I'm sorry if some of
> it is spelled wrong, but I don't know of any ways to get VOiceover to spell
> the icons, which would be handy when reading titles on movies etc.
> Best regards:
> Søren Jensen
> Mail & MSN:
> s...@coolfortheblind.dk
> Website:
> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
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Re: Fed up with everything being busy busy busy

[Steve Holmes]

I am not experiencing these busy busy busy problems.  Once in a while, a 
particular program will hang and go busy but in most of those cases, it is 
stuck doing something like trying to get new mail or like yesterday when I 
accidentally told the bookmarks menu to open all 47 bookmarks in separate tabs. 
 That brought my Mac down to its knees till I killed the process.  All and all, 
my Mac has performed pretty well even with only 2 GB of RAM.

On Dec 3, 2012, at 12:49 AM, Oriol Gómez  wrote:

> Here's the thing, VoiceOver is kind of strange in that sense. I don't
> understand why vo can't work with programs just like other screen
> readers do, I mean we have 4 processor cores or 2 or even more for
> something. You alt tab on the mac and it's still busy busy busy busy
> because a program is doing something on the computer. I find it highly
> frustrating.
> 
> On 12/3/12, Chris Bruinenberg  wrote:
>> You can check the hard drive space under about this mac under the menubar.
>> I don't have the sidebar issues.
>> I'm sorry.
>> Maybe a clean install should help.
>> 
>> On Dec 2, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>>> Ok doesn't seem to be anything running that shouldn't been trying to
>>> find out how full my hard drive is and can't believe I can't find
>>> this. Where is it listed? also does anyone else have this problem.
>>> When in the finder sidebar, I try to arrow down through the side bar,
>>> and every time I get to air drop it boots me out of the side bar,
>>> quite annoying anyway around this? I am vieing everything in list
>>> mode. Thanks
>>> 
>>> On Dec 2, 2:02 pm, Brian Fischler  wrote:
 Would love to hear if anyone has a solution to this. In the past week
 every program I run is constantly busy busy busy almost making my mac
 unusable. I am using an Imac 2010 running the latest mountain lion
 operating system. It used to be that I just dealt with busy in safari.
 Now Itunes, mail, news rack, andpages, and numbers are all having busy
 busy problems. Do I need to reinstall Mt. Lion? Does anyone know if
 this will correct the problem? I have tried restarting and shutting
 everything down, but it still doesn't fix the busy busy problems. If
 anyone has a step by step clean install, please share the link. Thanks
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Re: helping a blind friend get technology

[Alex Hall]

First, I use standard view, and second, I have a grand total of 2gb of ram to 
work with.  I know I need more, but I'm saving up for a macbook so I 
don't want to sink any money into this mini if I don't have to. My point with 
that example, though, was that you have to know how the mac works and know all 
the tricks to be sure you know what to do when something strange happens.
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> Hi Alex. If you don't like Safari's approach to browsing the internet, 
> perhaps you should try Chrome. Chromevox has been updated significantly so 
> you can use up and down arrow keys like in Windows. In regards to your 
> comment about replying to an email in Mail and getting the "busy" message, I 
> am not reproducing this. I use mail in it's classic view that it had in Snow 
> Leopard with headers turned off with no problems at all.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent from my white Mac Book
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RE: Apple tv questions

[Daniel Miller]

Well, for sighted people, more or less.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Søren Jensen
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 7:44 AM
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Subject: Re: Apple tv questions

Hi Daniel.
thanks very much for your quick reply. I don't see how Flicker can be useful
on an Apple tv if it's only used for  posting pictures. 
Best regards:
Søren Jensen
Mail & MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

Den 03/12/2012 kl. 14.39 skrev "Daniel Miller" :

> The NBA and MLB TV icons are for watching basketball or baseball games 
> from the paid subscriptions the NBA and MLB offer.
> Flickr is for posting pictures, and Vimio is like a youtube thing, but 
> not nearly as good in my eyes.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple tv questions
> 
> Hi.
> I have the following icons on my Apple tv which I can't figure out 
> what are used for: MLB tv, NVA, Vidia, Flicker and WSJ Live. Does 
> somebody know what those are used for, and where I can read more about 
> it? I'm sorry if some of it is spelled wrong, but I don't know of any 
> ways to get VOiceover to spell the icons, which would be handy when
reading titles on movies etc.
> Best regards:
> Søren Jensen
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> Website:
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Re: Deleting audible books in iTunes for Donna

[Steve Holmes]

I would also think it better to delete from within iTunes because iTunes does 
maintain an internal catalog of your content and that would get out of sync if 
you pull out files from under it by other means.  I'm not sure if iTunes has a 
way to clean itself up or not.

On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:06 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Hi Allison,
> 
> That's my next step. :)  But you've always been able to delete them from 
> within iTunes before, so I was wondering if there was something I was 
> missing.  I find it just much easier usually to be able to delete from within 
> iTunes.
> 
> thanks for the suggestion.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:25 AM, Allison Manzino  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> I'm sure you have tried this already, but how about going to the audio books 
>> folder under home/music/itunes/media/audiobooks? Just a thought. I was able 
>> to successfully delete audible books this way. I hope this helps. I  havne't 
>> tried the way you have with Itunes yet. Have a great day.
>> 
>> Allison
>> 
>> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
>> 
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Apple TV help

[Krysti .Power]

Hey all I connected my apple tv 2 to add some content to it it says my tv
is in recovery mode and I tired to restore it and it says apple tv not
found

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Re: Apple TV help

[Dave]

What did you connect your apple tv to?

You don't have to connect it to anything to add content to it.

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RE: Apple TV help

[Daniel Miller]

You can't add content to the apple TV via iTunes.

 

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What did you connect your apple tv to?

 

You don't have to connect it to anything to add content to it.

 

 

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RE: Apple TV help

[Krysti .Power]

Connected it to my mac
On 2012-12-03 9:56 AM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:

> You can’t add content to the apple TV via iTunes.
>
> ** **
>
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> ** **
>
> What did you connect your apple tv to?
>
>  
>
> You don't have to connect it to anything to add content to it.
>
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RE: Apple TV help

[Krysti .Power]

How would I restore it if itunes won't let me when I click on restore
On 2012-12-03 9:56 AM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:

> You can’t add content to the apple TV via iTunes.
>
> ** **
>
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>
> ** **
>
> What did you connect your apple tv to?
>
>  
>
> You don't have to connect it to anything to add content to it.
>
>  
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RE: Apple TV help

[Daniel Miller]

Oh dear. I honestly don't know, since I hardly connect my apple tv to my
mac. It's a pain to get it to be recognized anyway.

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krysti .Power
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Subject: RE: Apple TV help

 

How would I restore it if itunes won't let me when I click on restore 

On 2012-12-03 9:56 AM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:

You can't add content to the apple TV via iTunes.

 

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What did you connect your apple tv to?

 

You don't have to connect it to anything to add content to it.

 

 

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Re: Apple TV help

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You need to connect it to your TV and work with it there. 

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RE: Apple TV help

[Daniel Miller]

I think she's trying to say that her apple tv can't even boot, since somehow
it got put into recovery mode. I don't know how to exit that mode on an
apple tv, unfortunately.

 

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You need to connect it to your TV and work with it there. 

 

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Re: Deleting audible books in iTunes for Donna

[Donna Goodin]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. That's why I was hoping to be able to do it 
that way.
Best,
Donna

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:49 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:

> I would also think it better to delete from within iTunes because iTunes does 
> maintain an internal catalog of your content and that would get out of sync 
> if you pull out files from under it by other means.  I'm not sure if iTunes 
> has a way to clean itself up or not.
> 
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:06 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Allison,
>> 
>> That's my next step. :)  But you've always been able to delete them from 
>> within iTunes before, so I was wondering if there was something I was 
>> missing.  I find it just much easier usually to be able to delete from 
>> within iTunes.
>> 
>> thanks for the suggestion.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:25 AM, Allison Manzino  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> 
>>> I'm sure you have tried this already, but how about going to the audio 
>>> books folder under home/music/itunes/media/audiobooks? Just a thought. I 
>>> was able to successfully delete audible books this way. I hope this helps. 
>>> I  havne't tried the way you have with Itunes yet. Have a great day.
>>> 
>>> Allison
>>> 
>>> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
>>> 
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Re: helping a blind friend get technology

[Eugenia Firth]

Ok Alex. Are you saying that because the Mac Mini has less memory that more 
strange things happen using VoiceOver than having a different Mac? 

On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> First, I use standard view, and second, I have a grand total of 2gb of ram to 
> work with.  I know I need more, but I'm saving up for a macbook so I 
> don't want to sink any money into this mini if I don't have to. My point with 
> that example, though, was that you have to know how the mac works and know 
> all the tricks to be sure you know what to do when something strange happens.
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:06 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Alex. If you don't like Safari's approach to browsing the internet, 
>> perhaps you should try Chrome. Chromevox has been updated significantly so 
>> you can use up and down arrow keys like in Windows. In regards to your 
>> comment about replying to an email in Mail and getting the "busy" message, I 
>> am not reproducing this. I use mail in it's classic view that it had in Snow 
>> Leopard with headers turned off with no problems at all.
>> 
>> Shawn
>> Sent from my white Mac Book
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Re: helping a blind friend get technology

[Alex Hall]

I don't have a idfferent mac (yet) so can't say for sure. What I can say is 
that 2gb is not enough; if you do get the mini, which allows the user to 
upgrade the ram, I'd go for the cheapest option and then pick up 8gb of ram, 
which can be had for around $40, and pop it in in place of the default ram. I 
don't know if that would solve my problems, but I do know that switching to 
applications I haven't used in a while takes a long time as they load into ram 
from the hard drive, and that big apps like xCode or Garageband take forever to 
load. An ssd (solid-state drive) would definitely help too, but ram is the far 
cheaper upgrade option at this point.
On Dec 3, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Ok Alex. Are you saying that because the Mac Mini has less memory that more 
> strange things happen using VoiceOver than having a different Mac? 
> 
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> First, I use standard view, and second, I have a grand total of 2gb of ram 
>> to work with.  I know I need more, but I'm saving up for a macbook so 
>> I don't want to sink any money into this mini if I don't have to. My point 
>> with that example, though, was that you have to know how the mac works and 
>> know all the tricks to be sure you know what to do when something strange 
>> happens.
>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:06 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Alex. If you don't like Safari's approach to browsing the internet, 
>>> perhaps you should try Chrome. Chromevox has been updated significantly so 
>>> you can use up and down arrow keys like in Windows. In regards to your 
>>> comment about replying to an email in Mail and getting the "busy" message, 
>>> I am not reproducing this. I use mail in it's classic view that it had in 
>>> Snow Leopard with headers turned off with no problems at all.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent from my white Mac Book
>>> 
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Re: Apple TV help

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

How about I explain a little detail about the Apple TV to clarify:

1.  There's no need to connect your Apple TV directly with a USB cable other 
than to restore it.
2.  Your Apple TV connects either wirelessly via WIFI or with an ethernet cable 
in order for it to access content from your computer.  There is no way to add 
content to this model of Apple TV as it simply accesses all its content from 
your Mac's iTunes Library.  It has no internal storage at all other than what 
is used for the OS.

If your Apple TV 2 does, for whatever reason, require a restore, follow these 
steps:

• Unplug all cables fromt he unit.
• Connect a Micro USB-B cable to the Apple TV and the other end to your Mac.
• In iTunes, you should now be able to click the Restore.
• Let it do its Restore and subsequent updates.
• After this has completed, disconnect the USB cable and connect your power and 
HDMI connection to your TV.
• Setup your Apple TV including connection to your WIFI or ethernet network and 
connection to your Macs iTunes Library.

HTH.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-12-03, at 6:51 AM, Krysti .Power  wrote:

> Hey all I connected my apple tv 2 to add some content to it it says my tv is 
> in recovery mode and I tired to restore it and it says apple tv not found
> 
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Re: Fed up with everything being busy busy busy

[Phil Halton]

I experienced this "busy busy busy" thing a while back on a new iMac running 
ML. Just working in the help system would freeze the system. I did a disk 
repair from the recovery partition as suggested and there hasn't been a 
problem since.


- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Holmes" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: Fed up with everything being busy busy busy


I am not experiencing these busy busy busy problems.  Once in a while, a 
particular program will hang and go busy but in most of those cases, it is 
stuck doing something like trying to get new mail or like yesterday when I 
accidentally told the bookmarks menu to open all 47 bookmarks in separate 
tabs.  That brought my Mac down to its knees till I killed the process.  All 
and all, my Mac has performed pretty well even with only 2 GB of RAM.


On Dec 3, 2012, at 12:49 AM, Oriol Gómez  wrote:


Here's the thing, VoiceOver is kind of strange in that sense. I don't
understand why vo can't work with programs just like other screen
readers do, I mean we have 4 processor cores or 2 or even more for
something. You alt tab on the mac and it's still busy busy busy busy
because a program is doing something on the computer. I find it highly
frustrating.

On 12/3/12, Chris Bruinenberg  wrote:
You can check the hard drive space under about this mac under the 
menubar.

I don't have the sidebar issues.
I'm sorry.
Maybe a clean install should help.

On Dec 2, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:


Ok doesn't seem to be anything running that shouldn't been trying to
find out how full my hard drive is and can't believe I can't find
this. Where is it listed? also does anyone else have this problem.
When in the finder sidebar, I try to arrow down through the side bar,
and every time I get to air drop it boots me out of the side bar,
quite annoying anyway around this? I am vieing everything in list
mode. Thanks

On Dec 2, 2:02 pm, Brian Fischler  wrote:

Would love to hear if anyone has a solution to this. In the past week
every program I run is constantly busy busy busy almost making my mac
unusable. I am using an Imac 2010 running the latest mountain lion
operating system. It used to be that I just dealt with busy in safari.
Now Itunes, mail, news rack, andpages, and numbers are all having busy
busy problems. Do I need to reinstall Mt. Lion? Does anyone know if
this will correct the problem? I have tried restarting and shutting
everything down, but it still doesn't fix the busy busy problems. If
anyone has a step by step clean install, please share the link. Thanks


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Re: SilverLight on the Mac?

[Ray Foret Jr]

ON the other hand, it's good if you need to listen to a radio stream which 
requires it.  In that respect, I ain't had any trouble at all with it.  That, I 
suspect, is because once it's installed, and strictly with respect to listening 
to radio station streams which require it, you don't need to do anything 
directly with it at all.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac user!

On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:03 AM, erik burggraaf  wrote:

> MLB.com used it for a year or two.  I installed it and it let me play my ball 
> games, but forget about accessibility.  It's sketchy enough under windows.  
> If you have to do more than watch a video from start to finish or something 
> you might be in pretty big trouble.
> 
> Have fun,
> 
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> On 2012-12-03, at 7:55 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm looking at an online tool used at my university and it's telling me that 
>> I need to install Microsoft Silver Light.  I've never seen this on a Mac 
>> before.  Has anyone installed Silver Light?  If so, how was the experience 
>> in terms of accessibility?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Screen reader demographics - Was Re: helping a blind friend get technology

[Chris Blouch]

For those interested, the WebAIM folks every so often do some survey 
research on screen readers. IN amongst the piles of stats is the Primary 
Screen Reader breakdown:


http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey4/#primary

Unsurprisingly, for desktops, Jaws is the leader with 49% but NVDA is #2 
with nearly 14%. Voiceover is #5 with 9%. Of course some of this is the 
nature of the marketplace where Windows is the dominant platform so 
Windows screen readers make up the lion's share of the users. Wikimedia 
stats have OSX as 8.5% of the market:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems

In the analysis section of WebAIM's report they note that Jaws has been 
sinking from 66% in 2009 and 59% in 2010 but it would seem that many of 
those jumped to NVDA as it has risen from just 2.9% in 2009. Of course 
there's lots of other interesting data in there but for mobile screen 
readers Voicover is way ahead in the #1 spot with 49% followed by Nuance 
Talks with 18%


http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey4/#mobilescreenreaders

CB

On 12/2/12 11:15 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

Yes, the mini starts at $600 I believe, but you then need the monitor and 
possibly an adapter or cable, depending on the monitor you choose. You also 
need a keyboard and, if she wants one, some kind of trackpad for gestures. So, 
assume the standard apple keyboard at $40 (for the wired one), a cheap monitor 
for $100, and the $60 trackpad and we've just gone up to $800. Especially if 
she will be getting training, you may want to stick with a mobile computer so 
she can take it around to different places. An iPad works, but it's hard to say 
that she will be happy with it once she starts to see what it can't do, such as 
play CDs or offer different voices. I love iPads and other iOS devices, I've 
just not heard good things about using them as computer replacements.

The screen reader is NVDA (nvda-project.org), and it is free and open-source. 
You're right, there is no support for it since it is, well free, but I'm sure 
you can find people who can teach it. It is becoming more popular, so access 
tech specialists should know it. The speech is hard to get used to, but you 
will eventually. Still, it's no Alex or Serena but again the money problem. 
I'd like to stress once more that I would personally pick a mac every time, and 
I only bring up windows to point out that the cost difference may outweigh the 
benefits of the mac in this one case. If you can get around money, then the mac 
is the better choice.
On Dec 2, 2012, at 10:40 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:


Hi there
I'm not familiar with the screen reader  you're talking about, which brings up 
the question. Who's going to help her learn a Windows screen reader that most 
blind people don't have? I mean quick, if she doesn't know someone who has this 
screen reader, I think she stuck. The other question I have is, is not a Mac 
mini cheaper than $1000? I haven't talk to her much about this yet, but for 
what she wants, there is a good chance that she could use the iPad And a 
keyboard.
I have another blind friend who decided to continue with a Windows computer. 
She had learned Johnice and windows at work, and when she retired she didn't 
want to change it. However, even though she had used the computer at work, she 
is pretty shaky when it comes to problems with her computer. This means that 
her computer guru brother has had to help her almost immediately with this 
computer, And they live in different states. I mention this because I see some 
blind people needing a great deal of support in order to maintain their 
computers, and not all of them have that support.
This lady that when you're talking about, as far as I know, is on her own. I 
live in one city, she lives in another. This means I can't volunteer to help 
her. Since I used Windows for a number of years before getting him back, I 
could do it if we lived near each other.
I think a lot of us are forgetting here that what some of us on this list could 
do quite fine, others who don't have our experience would find very frustrating 
and not workable. This lady needs the keep it simple system. She's very smart, 
but I don't think she would be motivated to learn anything that took extreme 
amounts of time And effort. If she gets a cheaper Windows computer and she gets 
a cheaper screen reader, I think she  will have to teach herself.


I appreciate any and all opinions on the subject. I asked for them, and I 
welcome them.
Regards
Gigi Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 2, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:


Okay, please don't shoot me for this, but I think it needs to be mentioned. 
Sorry, but... why a mac? NVDA on Windows is much cheaper and does just as well 
in pretty much everything, even better in some areas (Safari, I'm looking at 
you and your lack of a flat representation). I know this is a mac list, and I'm 
not saying the mac is bad, but when you can get a reasonably good Windows 
laptop for

Re: iTunes again

[Daniel Montalvo Charameli]

These, in fact, are very sad news for the blind as I understand.
Apple's software continues to be accessible (there is no doubt about
it) but usability is getting worse lately for us.

There is another serious issue in Itunes 11: When you do hundreds of
interactings (those that are needed to navigate the list of tracks of
an album) and then move your Voice Over cursor up and down, you may
want to press Enter in a particular song to play it. If you do, you'll
probably end up listening another song, just the one which has
keyboard focus. I think this should now happen if, like I do, you have
cursor tracking enabled. The only way to play the song that you want
is simply using the arrow keys (instead of the VO commands) to move
through the grid containing the songs of an album. Have you
experienced that?

2012/12/3, Mark Baxter :
> This brings up another point I don't quite get.  The only way to see those
> tracks now appears ti be to interact with a table, interact with an album
> group, then interact with an album grid.  I CANNOT get the column grouser to
> un-dim, and as it is, this way's just clunky
>
>
>  • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
>  • AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
>  • MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
>  • My home page:
>  • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
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Re: captcha solving service for the mac.

[Chris Blouch]

If you poke through the history on this thread you can find some of my 
previous background on captchas but I can give you a short summary of 
their purpose here. Basically companies need a way to figure out if you 
a person or a computer to ensure you're not some bad actor trying to 
create a bunch of bogus accounts for spamming and the like. This is 
usually done via a puzzle that is 'easy' for people and 'hard' for 
computers to solve. There are two flaws with this. One is that as the 
algorithms have become more sophisticated the definition of 'easy' has 
moved to 'hard' while only becoming 'harder' for algorithms. This is an 
arms race and eventually the puzzles will become too difficult and/or 
the algorithms will have too high a success rate to make it useful 
anymore. We're starting to reach that point. The second flaw is that you 
can hire a mechanical turk service that will farm out whatever tasks you 
need done to real people for little money. So the accessible captcha 
plugins/services do this for a legitimate reason but that also means bad 
actors can do the same thing. In other words, any captcha solution that 
costs more than a few cents won't be worth it since the bad guys can 
just hire real people to solve them, especially if they protect valuable 
content/data. I've actually evaluated a number of captcha solutions and 
so far none have worked any better than the garbled audio or swirly 
images. Either the puzzle was too hard for people or it was easy for the 
algorithm/script. I can elaborate more but suffice it to say, this is a 
tough nut to crack.


CB

On 12/1/12 10:01 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Adrienne,

I could not have said things better myself.

I'm sure many disagree with us, but it's nice to know I'm not the only 
one who feels this way.


have a great day.

Thank you kindly,

Christopher-Mark Gilland.
Founder of CLG Productions
- Original Message - From: "Adrienne Sinclair Chalmers" 


To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 5:35 PM
Subject: captcha solving service for the mac.


Hi guys

Isn't the real question here not about whether captcha solving 
services should be free, but why people are allowed to use 
inaccessible captchas on their sites in the first place? Personally, I 
am sick of the rotten things and don't know how people get away with 
using them and their unintelligible so-called audio equivalents.


Perhaps if the cost of captcha solving fell on the heads of those who 
included these barriers to accessibility and not to people who can't 
see or hear them, they would pretty soon find other solutions that 
everyone could use on an equal basis.


I have never had the "need" to use captchas sufficiently explained to 
me. There always seem to be other ways of achieving whatever result 
the proprietor of the site thinks captchas supply.


Regards

Adrienne



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Re: helping a blind friend get technology

[Rod Skene]

My two cents, I would get a iPod touch and an Apple keyboard. It would be much 
easier to learn and much less expensive. She could Always upgrade to a computer 
later point.

Sent from my iPhone with dictation software.  Please excuse any spelling errors.

On 02/12/2012, at 10:46 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Thanks there
> Well, I guess it boils down to the MacBook air or the Mac mini, if she's 
> getting a Mac. She didn't have a heart attack when I told her how much I paid 
> for my MacBook Pro, and she's planning on setting up her money for the next 
> seven months or so. Anyway, thanks for all the help guys.
> Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 2, 2012, at 10:15 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, the mini starts at $600 I believe, but you then need the monitor and 
>> possibly an adapter or cable, depending on the monitor you choose. You also 
>> need a keyboard and, if she wants one, some kind of trackpad for gestures. 
>> So, assume the standard apple keyboard at $40 (for the wired one), a cheap 
>> monitor for $100, and the $60 trackpad and we've just gone up to $800. 
>> Especially if she will be getting training, you may want to stick with a 
>> mobile computer so she can take it around to different places. An iPad 
>> works, but it's hard to say that she will be happy with it once she starts 
>> to see what it can't do, such as play CDs or offer different voices. I love 
>> iPads and other iOS devices, I've just not heard good things about using 
>> them as computer replacements.
>> 
>> The screen reader is NVDA (nvda-project.org), and it is free and 
>> open-source. You're right, there is no support for it since it is, well 
>> free, but I'm sure you can find people who can teach it. It is becoming more 
>> popular, so access tech specialists should know it. The speech is hard to 
>> get used to, but you will eventually. Still, it's no Alex or Serena but 
>> again the money problem. I'd like to stress once more that I would 
>> personally pick a mac every time, and I only bring up windows to point out 
>> that the cost difference may outweigh the benefits of the mac in this one 
>> case. If you can get around money, then the mac is the better choice.
>> On Dec 2, 2012, at 10:40 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there
>>> I'm not familiar with the screen reader  you're talking about, which brings 
>>> up the question. Who's going to help her learn a Windows screen reader that 
>>> most blind people don't have? I mean quick, if she doesn't know someone who 
>>> has this screen reader, I think she stuck. The other question I have is, is 
>>> not a Mac mini cheaper than $1000? I haven't talk to her much about this 
>>> yet, but for what she wants, there is a good chance that she could use the 
>>> iPad And a keyboard.
>>> I have another blind friend who decided to continue with a Windows 
>>> computer. She had learned Johnice and windows at work, and when she retired 
>>> she didn't want to change it. However, even though she had used the 
>>> computer at work, she is pretty shaky when it comes to problems with her 
>>> computer. This means that her computer guru brother has had to help her 
>>> almost immediately with this computer, And they live in different states. I 
>>> mention this because I see some blind people needing a great deal of 
>>> support in order to maintain their computers, and not all of them have that 
>>> support.
>>> This lady that when you're talking about, as far as I know, is on her own. 
>>> I live in one city, she lives in another. This means I can't volunteer to 
>>> help her. Since I used Windows for a number of years before getting him 
>>> back, I could do it if we lived near each other.
>>> I think a lot of us are forgetting here that what some of us on this list 
>>> could do quite fine, others who don't have our experience would find very 
>>> frustrating and not workable. This lady needs the keep it simple system. 
>>> She's very smart, but I don't think she would be motivated to learn 
>>> anything that took extreme amounts of time And effort. If she gets a 
>>> cheaper Windows computer and she gets a cheaper screen reader, I think she  
>>> will have to teach herself.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I appreciate any and all opinions on the subject. I asked for them, and I 
>>> welcome them.
>>> Regards
>>> Gigi Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Dec 2, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
 Okay, please don't shoot me for this, but I think it needs to be 
 mentioned. Sorry, but... why a mac? NVDA on Windows is much cheaper and 
 does just as well in pretty much everything, even better in some areas 
 (Safari, I'm looking at you and your lack of a flat representation). I 
 know this is a mac list, and I'm not saying the mac is bad, but when you 
 can get a reasonably good Windows laptop for $300, or the basic mac laptop 
 for $1000, and where money is an issue... well, you see where I'm coming 
 from I hope.
 On Dec 2, 2012, at 7:54 

Audio internet recorder for Windows 7 in Bootcamp

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi,

sometimes I need to record sounds from Internetexplorer in Windows 7 installed 
in Bootcamp on my MacBook Air 2010. On PCs I use Total Recorder for this and it 
works just fine. I installed Total Recorder in Windows on my MacBook Air but it 
seems not to work in this environment. Windows crashed totally and I had to 
recover it completely. To use Audio Hijack in the Mac partition is also not 
possible because I need the function on web sides with a flash player and so I 
have to use the Internetexplorer.

So can someone recommend a piece of software that works like Total Recorder and 
works in Windows 7 in Bootcamp?

Thanks and all the best
Jürgen

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Compilation [was:] Re: What's the difference between Artist and Album Artist?

[Jürgen Fleger]

Here's a related question: Could you tell me what Compilation in iTunes exactly 
means? I just know this term from iTunes.
Thanks and all the best
Jürgen

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Re: SilverLight on the Mac?

[Teresa Cochran]

If you interact with it and click it with the VO mouse click,  and you have the 
ClicktoPlugin extension, you can use shortcut keys, such as space for play and 
pause, arrow keys for skipping backward and forward, and F for full screen. 
Netflix uses it.

HtH,
Teresa


Slow down; you'll get there faster.

On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:55 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I'm looking at an online tool used at my university and it's telling me that 
> I need to install Microsoft Silver Light.  I've never seen this on a Mac 
> before.  Has anyone installed Silver Light?  If so, how was the experience in 
> terms of accessibility?
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Clicking

[Rodney Haynie]

It was always my understanding that it was there to help hide how many
keystrokes you type for your password. I do not know why it works like
this one one computer, and does not have the constant clicking on
another.

But with the extra clicking, it is harder for someone else within ear
shot to tell  how many keypresses you made to enter your password.

Take care.
Rodney


On 12/3/12, Craig J Dunlop  wrote:
> What's weird! Is that it does not do it on my MacBook Pro with Mountain lion
> install. But on their Mac it does every time!
>
>
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> On Dec 2, 2012, at 14:46, Scott Rumery  wrote:
>
>> I have had this happen a few times and I have not been able to get it to
>> stop.  I just enter in my password and hit Return and as long as my
>> password is correct, all is right with the world again.
>>
>> Scott Rumery
>>
>> On Dec 2, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Craig J Dunlop 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A friend of mine has a situation on their Mac I have not seen before. In
>>> Safari when on a secure edit field it continually makes a clicking sound
>>> even when not typing. Is there a way to diss able this clicking
>>> notification?
>>>
>>>
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Re: iTunes again

[Mark Baxter]

I agree there are more steps, and I"m wondering if VO's sweet spots might be 
able to help here, or landmarks, but I"m not sure how.

Another issue seems to be that, at least with my library being so huge, (How 
Huge Is IT!?!) Often, when interacting with the table, all I hear is "row 
1,048, one item)  "row 10249 one item."  Doesn't tell me what the item is.

I want my column browser back


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Automatic video camera on Skype?

[Estelita]

Hello,
I want the video camera of my MacBook will automatically turn on when the call 
is activated.
Any instruction please?
Thank you.

Nene

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Re: SilverLight on the Mac?

[Erik Burggraaf]

Well, that's more or less true, except if you want to raise or lower volume, 
pause or mute, see the name of the current song or program, or basically do 
anything other than listen.  

Best,



Ray Foret Jr  wrote:

ON the other hand, it's good if you need to listen to a radio stream
which requires it.  In that respect, I ain't had any trouble at all with
it.  That, I suspect, is because once it's installed, and strictly with
respect to listening to radio station streams which require it, you
don't need to do anything directly with it at all.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac user!

On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:03 AM, erik burggraaf 
wrote:

> MLB.com used it for a year or two.  I installed it and it let me play
my ball games, but forget about accessibility.  It's sketchy enough
under windows.  If you have to do more than watch a video from start to
finish or something you might be in pretty big trouble.
> 
> Have fun,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service,
starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards.
> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
> 
> On 2012-12-03, at 7:55 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm looking at an online tool used at my university and it's telling
me that I need to install Microsoft Silver Light.  I've never seen this
on a Mac before.  Has anyone installed Silver Light?  If so, how was the
experience in terms of accessibility?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: ITunes 11 is absolutely perverted! in my opinion!

[matthew dyer]

Hi there.

The iCloud button updates your data.

HTH

Matthew



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On Dec 2, 2012, at 5:24 PM, "Chris Moore"  wrote:

> That is exactly how I prefer to use iTunes also.  Anyone worked out what that 
> iCloud button does yet?
> On 2 Dec 2012, at 03:38, Steve Holmes  wrote:
> 
>> The one view I always liked in prior versions of iTunes was the table view 
>> showing all the tracks of an album and the detail columns that go with them. 
>>  I discovered that if I choose the Songs view instead of Album or Artist, I 
>> not only get the table list view back but I can also get the column view 
>> back as well.  And while interacting with the music table, I can use VO-J to 
>> toggle around between the player, Music Browser and the Music table.  That 
>> never worked properly for me in older iTunes versions.  The new grid views 
>> seem strange to me but there are so many different ways to configure this 
>> thing, it's pleasant news to be able to get a view that can just about 
>> please everyone.
>> 
>> Right now, I'm using the Songs view with Sidebar turned off but status line 
>> turned on.  Plus I have the column view enabled.  This is really working 
>> good for me.
>> 
>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 3:37 AM, KJSC radio  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey all, while it may seem different in iTunes, Like many people have said, 
>>> the few options are the way to go if you want iTunes to look and feel 
>>> mostly like normal again. Yeah while it seems like apple made iTunes 
>>> complex this time around, their are 2 choices you can make… For example, 
>>> you can choose to live with the new interface which I have decided to do 
>>> for a bit or you can choose to see if there are ways to make iTunes appear 
>>> normal  again… Just thoughtI would bring that up… I would like to say 
>>> though that I love the up ned feature!!! I find this useful especially, 
>>> when I'm doing enter net radio broadcasting with nice cast on my station 
>>> and if someone requests a song that I have in my library, I could just go 
>>> into the songs view, search for the song, find it and VO shift M on that 
>>> and choose add to next up!!! I love that because I would just make it 
>>> crossfade to the next song just by doing that… well, have a good day all.
>>> On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 You're exactly right John.  I am ashamed of myself for the prior comments 
 I made, and I humbly ask that you all please accept my apology.  I acted 
 like a jerk!
 
 
 
 Thank you kindly,
 
 Christopher-Mark Gilland.
 Founder of CLG Productions
 - Original Message - From: "John Panarese" 
 To: 
 Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 11:11 PM
 Subject: Re: ITunes 11 is absolutely perverted! in my opinion!
 
 
 If you look in the view menu and hit enter on, show Side bar, you do have 
 a source list visible.  You then can use control-option-j to jump from the 
 source list to other areas and back.  You can also use the VoiceOver web 
 navigation commands as well, such as VO-command-j or even option-tab.
 
 My suggestion is look at the menus and experiment a bit before you jump to 
 conclusions.  It's certainly different, but I would not call it 
 "perverted" in the least.  Be patient and explore and tinker.  We all have 
 to learn it and find techniques and tips to pass along to one another.
 
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
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 On Nov 29, 2012, at 10:32 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" 
  wrote:
 
> OK, I don't normally bitch about Apple 峰roducts, but I have to say, what 
> in the cottin pickin heck! was Apple thinking!  Maybe I am just not very 
> patient, but this is absolutely disgusting! from what I am so far seeing.
> 
> First of all, I hear people saying the interface is much simpiler?  OK, 
> how do you figure that?  You're entitled certainly to you all's own 
> opinions, but lookat.  Let me give my! point a vew.
> 
> First of all, the sources list is totally 100% gone.  Granted it's in a 
> popup button now, which is fine, except that they put it way smished in 
> the darn middle of the screen it seems.  This means without the item 
> chooser, it's a pain in the butt! to get to that popup button.  I can't 
> even jump over a lot of things by pressing vo+down arrow instead of right 
> arrow.  If I do that, there really is no way to get with vo+down arrow to 
> the source popup, as it's on the top most row of the screen, so down 
> would take me

Re: Deleting audible books in iTunes for Donna

[Cheryl Homiak]

Okay, maybe I'm missing something here; maybe you want to do something more 
than I am thinking but I'm having no problems deleting audible books from 
iTunes. I did this on a Mac so if you are talking about iTunes in Windows maybe 
this won't help.

i chose books from the pop-up. At first I then chose audiobooks from the radio 
buttons but when I interacted I had some trouble making sure I only had one 
book selected. Not wanting to accidentally delete all audibooks I then chose 
"list" from the radio buttons. But later I was also able to select with the 
audiobooks radio button chosen.

In both cases, I did vo-shift-m which brought up a context menu. One of the 
choices was "delete". I was asked if I really wanted to delete. In the case of 
doing it from "list" only one part of an audiobook was selected but when 
deleting using the audiobooks radio button all parts of a book were chosen so 
that's why when using the audiobooks radio button and deleting a book with more 
than one part you'll be asked if you want to delete the selected audiobooks. I 
confirmed that I wanted to delete and was asked if I wanted to keep the files 
or move them to trash. I made my choice and the book was deleted.

Hth.

-- 
Cheryl

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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Dec 3, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Yeah, that's what I was thinking. That's why I was hoping to be able to do it 
> that way.
> Best,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:49 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
> 
>> I would also think it better to delete from within iTunes because iTunes 
>> does maintain an internal catalog of your content and that would get out of 
>> sync if you pull out files from under it by other means.  I'm not sure if 
>> iTunes has a way to clean itself up or not.
>> 
>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:06 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Allison,
>>> 
>>> That's my next step. :)  But you've always been able to delete them from 
>>> within iTunes before, so I was wondering if there was something I was 
>>> missing.  I find it just much easier usually to be able to delete from 
>>> within iTunes.
>>> 
>>> thanks for the suggestion.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:25 AM, Allison Manzino  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Donna,
 
 I'm sure you have tried this already, but how about going to the audio 
 books folder under home/music/itunes/media/audiobooks? Just a thought. I 
 was able to successfully delete audible books this way. I hope this helps. 
 I  havne't tried the way you have with Itunes yet. Have a great day.
 
 Allison
 
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RE: iTunes again

[Jesus Garcia]

did the column browser completely disappear? or, can you bring it back up
from the view menu?

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Subject: Re: iTunes again

I agree there are more steps, and I"m wondering if VO's sweet spots might be
able to help here, or landmarks, but I"m not sure how.

Another issue seems to be that, at least with my library being so huge, (How
Huge Is IT!?!) Often, when interacting with the table, all I hear is "row
1,048, one item)  "row 10249 one item."  Doesn't tell me what the item is.

I want my column browser back


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Re: Automatic video camera on Skype?

[Chris Blouch]

I think that's the way it works by default. If you answer a video chat 
request Skype will wake up the camera.


CB

On 12/3/12 12:27 PM, Estelita wrote:

Hello,
I want the video camera of my MacBook will automatically turn on when 
the call is activated.

Any instruction please?
Thank you.
Nene
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Re: Screen reader demographics - Was Re: helping a blind friend get technology

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi there. 
A lot of blind people are stuck with whatever their employer wnts to do. 
However, it's going to be real interesting to see how things go. Both my 
brother's company and my sister's hospital 
bought their employees iPads. My sister is a nurse practitioner who does work 
full time these days on the iPad. If this starts happening from time to time, 
then our fight will be to make the company apps accessible. 


On Dec 3, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> For those interested, the WebAIM folks every so often do some survey research 
> on screen readers. IN amongst the piles of stats is the Primary Screen Reader 
> breakdown:
> 
> http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey4/#primary
> 
> Unsurprisingly, for desktops, Jaws is the leader with 49% but NVDA is #2 with 
> nearly 14%. Voiceover is #5 with 9%. Of course some of this is the nature of 
> the marketplace where Windows is the dominant platform so Windows screen 
> readers make up the lion's share of the users. Wikimedia stats have OSX as 
> 8.5% of the market:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems
> 
> In the analysis section of WebAIM's report they note that Jaws has been 
> sinking from 66% in 2009 and 59% in 2010 but it would seem that many of those 
> jumped to NVDA as it has risen from just 2.9% in 2009. Of course there's lots 
> of other interesting data in there but for mobile screen readers Voicover is 
> way ahead in the #1 spot with 49% followed by Nuance Talks with 18%
> 
> http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey4/#mobilescreenreaders
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/2/12 11:15 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> Yes, the mini starts at $600 I believe, but you then need the monitor and 
>> possibly an adapter or cable, depending on the monitor you choose. You also 
>> need a keyboard and, if she wants one, some kind of trackpad for gestures. 
>> So, assume the standard apple keyboard at $40 (for the wired one), a cheap 
>> monitor for $100, and the $60 trackpad and we've just gone up to $800. 
>> Especially if she will be getting training, you may want to stick with a 
>> mobile computer so she can take it around to different places. An iPad 
>> works, but it's hard to say that she will be happy with it once she starts 
>> to see what it can't do, such as play CDs or offer different voices. I love 
>> iPads and other iOS devices, I've just not heard good things about using 
>> them as computer replacements.
>> 
>> The screen reader is NVDA (nvda-project.org), and it is free and 
>> open-source. You're right, there is no support for it since it is, well 
>> free, but I'm sure you can find people who can teach it. It is becoming more 
>> popular, so access tech specialists should know it. The speech is hard to 
>> get used to, but you will eventually. Still, it's no Alex or Serena but 
>> again the money problem. I'd like to stress once more that I would 
>> personally pick a mac every time, and I only bring up windows to point out 
>> that the cost difference may outweigh the benefits of the mac in this one 
>> case. If you can get around money, then the mac is the better choice.
>> On Dec 2, 2012, at 10:40 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there
>>> I'm not familiar with the screen reader  you're talking about, which brings 
>>> up the question. Who's going to help her learn a Windows screen reader that 
>>> most blind people don't have? I mean quick, if she doesn't know someone who 
>>> has this screen reader, I think she stuck. The other question I have is, is 
>>> not a Mac mini cheaper than $1000? I haven't talk to her much about this 
>>> yet, but for what she wants, there is a good chance that she could use the 
>>> iPad And a keyboard.
>>> I have another blind friend who decided to continue with a Windows 
>>> computer. She had learned Johnice and windows at work, and when she retired 
>>> she didn't want to change it. However, even though she had used the 
>>> computer at work, she is pretty shaky when it comes to problems with her 
>>> computer. This means that her computer guru brother has had to help her 
>>> almost immediately with this computer, And they live in different states. I 
>>> mention this because I see some blind people needing a great deal of 
>>> support in order to maintain their computers, and not all of them have that 
>>> support.
>>> This lady that when you're talking about, as far as I know, is on her own. 
>>> I live in one city, she lives in another. This means I can't volunteer to 
>>> help her. Since I used Windows for a number of years before getting him 
>>> back, I could do it if we lived near each other.
>>> I think a lot of us are forgetting here that what some of us on this list 
>>> could do quite fine, others who don't have our experience would find very 
>>> frustrating and not workable. This lady needs the keep it simple system. 
>>> She's very smart, but I don't think she would be motivated to learn 
>>> anything that took extreme amounts of time And effort. I

Re: Audio internet recorder for Windows 7 in Bootcamp

[Chris Blouch]

Might be worth trying to do it with a virtual machine. Then the Windows 
audio is just another Mac app making sound which you can then record 
with your favorite mac audio recorder. In other words, try to move the 
problem into the Mac domain and you'll probably be able to solve it easier.


CB

On 12/3/12 11:16 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:

Hi,

sometimes I need to record sounds from Internetexplorer in Windows 7 installed 
in Bootcamp on my MacBook Air 2010. On PCs I use Total Recorder for this and it 
works just fine. I installed Total Recorder in Windows on my MacBook Air but it 
seems not to work in this environment. Windows crashed totally and I had to 
recover it completely. To use Audio Hijack in the Mac partition is also not 
possible because I need the function on web sides with a flash player and so I 
have to use the Internetexplorer.

So can someone recommend a piece of software that works like Total Recorder and 
works in Windows 7 in Bootcamp?

Thanks and all the best
Jürgen



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Re: helping a blind friend get technology

[Eugenia Firth]

Ok, what about you guys that have Mac Book Airs? I'blind have to find out if 
she wants to use BARD. I suspect she would want to do that, but I haven't asked 
her. 

On Dec 3, 2012, at 8:39 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> I don't have a idfferent mac (yet) so can't say for sure. What I can say is 
> that 2gb is not enough; if you do get the mini, which allows the user to 
> upgrade the ram, I'd go for the cheapest option and then pick up 8gb of ram, 
> which can be had for around $40, and pop it in in place of the default ram. I 
> don't know if that would solve my problems, but I do know that switching to 
> applications I haven't used in a while takes a long time as they load into 
> ram from the hard drive, and that big apps like xCode or Garageband take 
> forever to load. An ssd (solid-state drive) would definitely help too, but 
> ram is the far cheaper upgrade option at this point.
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:
> 
>> Ok Alex. Are you saying that because the Mac Mini has less memory that more 
>> strange things happen using VoiceOver than having a different Mac? 
>> 
>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> First, I use standard view, and second, I have a grand total of 2gb of ram 
>>> to work with.  I know I need more, but I'm saving up for a macbook 
>>> so I don't want to sink any money into this mini if I don't have to. My 
>>> point with that example, though, was that you have to know how the mac 
>>> works and know all the tricks to be sure you know what to do when something 
>>> strange happens.
>>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:06 AM, Shawn Krasniuk  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Alex. If you don't like Safari's approach to browsing the internet, 
 perhaps you should try Chrome. Chromevox has been updated significantly so 
 you can use up and down arrow keys like in Windows. In regards to your 
 comment about replying to an email in Mail and getting the "busy" message, 
 I am not reproducing this. I use mail in it's classic view that it had in 
 Snow Leopard with headers turned off with no problems at all.
 
 Shawn
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Re: iTunes again

[Rod Skene]

The colum browser did not disappear.  You need to check the songs radio button. 
 Then, the colum browser will not be dimmed out .
Hope this helps,
Rod

Sent from my iPhone with dictation software.  Please excuse any spelling errors.

On 03/12/2012, at 11:59 AM, "Jesus Garcia"  wrote:

> did the column browser completely disappear? or, can you bring it back up
> from the view menu?
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Baxter
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> Subject: Re: iTunes again
> 
> I agree there are more steps, and I"m wondering if VO's sweet spots might be
> able to help here, or landmarks, but I"m not sure how.
> 
> Another issue seems to be that, at least with my library being so huge, (How
> Huge Is IT!?!) Often, when interacting with the table, all I hear is "row
> 1,048, one item)  "row 10249 one item."  Doesn't tell me what the item is.
> 
> I want my column browser back
> 
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Re: how to use external microphone in MacBook Pro? + cheap mixer? where?

[Chris Blouch]

Depending on your definition of cheap, you can get a new mackie 402-VLZ3 
for about $100


http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/mackie-402-vlz3-compact-audio-mixer

Two XLRs with preamps and a stereo 1/4" input, so it's sort of a 
three-channel mixer but one of them is stereo. There are 1/4" inputs on 
the XLR channels as well along with a separate "Tape In" which is a pair 
of RCAs. Just the thing for a nice vocal mic and a few other inputs. 
Does have phantom power if you're into condenser mics.


CB

On 12/1/12 11:55 AM, Mark Baxter wrote:

So, where do you get such a "cheap mixer," that handles 3.5 MM (1/8 inch) or 
1/4 inch (Presumably 7 MM?) i/o?  I'd LOVE to mix my stuff before it goes into my 2.1 
system, or into my hearing aid streamer box, for better volume equalization particularly.


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Re: Screen reader demographics - Was Re: helping a blind friend get technology

[Chris Blouch]

That sounds like the broader trend of companies allowing people to 
self-select their devices rather than mandate hardware. There are some 
who suspect that a lot of people already use their person iPhones for 
work, leaving the corporate provided blackberry in a drawer.


CB

On 12/3/12 1:14 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:

Hi there.
A lot of blind people are stuck with whatever their employer wnts to do. 
However, it's going to be real interesting to see how things go. Both my 
brother's company and my sister's hospital
bought their employees iPads. My sister is a nurse practitioner who does work 
full time these days on the iPad. If this starts happening from time to time, 
then our fight will be to make the company apps accessible.


On Dec 3, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Chris Blouch  wrote:


For those interested, the WebAIM folks every so often do some survey research 
on screen readers. IN amongst the piles of stats is the Primary Screen Reader 
breakdown:

http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey4/#primary

Unsurprisingly, for desktops, Jaws is the leader with 49% but NVDA is #2 with 
nearly 14%. Voiceover is #5 with 9%. Of course some of this is the nature of 
the marketplace where Windows is the dominant platform so Windows screen 
readers make up the lion's share of the users. Wikimedia stats have OSX as 8.5% 
of the market:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems

In the analysis section of WebAIM's report they note that Jaws has been sinking 
from 66% in 2009 and 59% in 2010 but it would seem that many of those jumped to 
NVDA as it has risen from just 2.9% in 2009. Of course there's lots of other 
interesting data in there but for mobile screen readers Voicover is way ahead 
in the #1 spot with 49% followed by Nuance Talks with 18%

http://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey4/#mobilescreenreaders

CB

On 12/2/12 11:15 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

Yes, the mini starts at $600 I believe, but you then need the monitor and 
possibly an adapter or cable, depending on the monitor you choose. You also 
need a keyboard and, if she wants one, some kind of trackpad for gestures. So, 
assume the standard apple keyboard at $40 (for the wired one), a cheap monitor 
for $100, and the $60 trackpad and we've just gone up to $800. Especially if 
she will be getting training, you may want to stick with a mobile computer so 
she can take it around to different places. An iPad works, but it's hard to say 
that she will be happy with it once she starts to see what it can't do, such as 
play CDs or offer different voices. I love iPads and other iOS devices, I've 
just not heard good things about using them as computer replacements.

The screen reader is NVDA (nvda-project.org), and it is free and open-source. 
You're right, there is no support for it since it is, well free, but I'm sure 
you can find people who can teach it. It is becoming more popular, so access 
tech specialists should know it. The speech is hard to get used to, but you 
will eventually. Still, it's no Alex or Serena but again the money problem. 
I'd like to stress once more that I would personally pick a mac every time, and 
I only bring up windows to point out that the cost difference may outweigh the 
benefits of the mac in this one case. If you can get around money, then the mac 
is the better choice.
On Dec 2, 2012, at 10:40 PM, Eugenia Firth  wrote:


Hi there
I'm not familiar with the screen reader  you're talking about, which brings up 
the question. Who's going to help her learn a Windows screen reader that most 
blind people don't have? I mean quick, if she doesn't know someone who has this 
screen reader, I think she stuck. The other question I have is, is not a Mac 
mini cheaper than $1000? I haven't talk to her much about this yet, but for 
what she wants, there is a good chance that she could use the iPad And a 
keyboard.
I have another blind friend who decided to continue with a Windows computer. 
She had learned Johnice and windows at work, and when she retired she didn't 
want to change it. However, even though she had used the computer at work, she 
is pretty shaky when it comes to problems with her computer. This means that 
her computer guru brother has had to help her almost immediately with this 
computer, And they live in different states. I mention this because I see some 
blind people needing a great deal of support in order to maintain their 
computers, and not all of them have that support.
This lady that when you're talking about, as far as I know, is on her own. I 
live in one city, she lives in another. This means I can't volunteer to help 
her. Since I used Windows for a number of years before getting him back, I 
could do it if we lived near each other.
I think a lot of us are forgetting here that what some of us on this list could 
do quite fine, others who don't have our experience would find very frustrating 
and not workable. This lady needs the keep it simple system. She's very smart, 
but I don't 

forwarded messages include *all* headers

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
I just noticed that when I forward mail, the message includes all headers 
before you get to the actual text. I just want the usual forward stuff, like 
sender, subject, and time, not the receive paths and all that. I don't know 
what I changed to have this happen, and any information would be appreciated. 
Thanks.


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Re: Audio internet recorder for Windows 7 in Bootcamp

[Jürgen Fleger]

Great hint. Thank you very much. I'll try it out.

All the best
Jürgen

Am 03.12.2012 um 19:19 schrieb Chris Blouch :

> Might be worth trying to do it with a virtual machine. Then the Windows audio 
> is just another Mac app making sound which you can then record with your 
> favorite mac audio recorder. In other words, try to move the problem into the 
> Mac domain and you'll probably be able to solve it easier.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 12/3/12 11:16 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> sometimes I need to record sounds from Internetexplorer in Windows 7 
>> installed in Bootcamp on my MacBook Air 2010. On PCs I use Total Recorder 
>> for this and it works just fine. I installed Total Recorder in Windows on my 
>> MacBook Air but it seems not to work in this environment. Windows crashed 
>> totally and I had to recover it completely. To use Audio Hijack in the Mac 
>> partition is also not possible because I need the function on web sides with 
>> a flash player and so I have to use the Internetexplorer.
>> 
>> So can someone recommend a piece of software that works like Total Recorder 
>> and works in Windows 7 in Bootcamp?
>> 
>> Thanks and all the best
>> Jürgen
>> 
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Re: forwarded messages include *all* headers

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, Alex,

You can go into Mail prefs and choose the "viewing" tab. There's a drop-down 
that will allow you to set which headers show by default. Also, when you 
interact with message headers in a message, you can choose whether details are 
shown or not, regardless of your default setting.

HtH,
Teresa


On the other hand, there are different fingers.

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> I just noticed that when I forward mail, the message includes all headers 
> before you get to the actual text. I just want the usual forward stuff, like 
> sender, subject, and time, not the receive paths and all that. I don't know 
> what I changed to have this happen, and any information would be appreciated. 
> Thanks.
> 
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iTunes 11: iCloud button and other issues.

[Daniel Miller]

Hello,

Hello,

 

I just spoke to Apples accessibility department. I let them know of various
iTunes 11 issues, including asking about what that button that simply says
'iCloud' is. They told me it's not really a button you can click, that's
just showing you that you have things stored in iCloud that are available
for download. Can anyone that doesn't have anything stored there confirm
that that's indeed the case?

Also, I reported the issue with VoiceOver not consistently reading the rows
in the artist and albums view for some of you, and they're going to get back
to me by Wednesday with more answers.

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Re: forwarded messages include *all* headers

[Alex Hall]

I have all headers shown so I can quickly see to whom a message is addressed if 
I need to. I just didn't think that this would affect my forwarding, since 
those headers are not in the message text. If I understand you right, this 
seems like a very odd choice for Apple to have made.
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> Hi, Alex,
> 
> You can go into Mail prefs and choose the "viewing" tab. There's a drop-down 
> that will allow you to set which headers show by default. Also, when you 
> interact with message headers in a message, you can choose whether details 
> are shown or not, regardless of your default setting.
> 
> HtH,
> Teresa
> 
> 
> On the other hand, there are different fingers.
> 
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I just noticed that when I forward mail, the message includes all headers 
>> before you get to the actual text. I just want the usual forward stuff, like 
>> sender, subject, and time, not the receive paths and all that. I don't know 
>> what I changed to have this happen, and any information would be 
>> appreciated. Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com
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Re: forwarded messages include *all* headers

[Henry D. Hollithron]

Good Day: 

For headers, the "default" setting will show you, among other standard 
details, the person to whom the message is addressed. It omits all the 
information about exactly which servers were involved in the transmission of 
the message.

HTH;
Henry
Education never ends. It is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last.
Sherlock Holmes

On 3 Dec 2012, at 15:38, Alex Hall  wrote:

> I have all headers shown so I can quickly see to whom a message is addressed 
> if I need to. I just didn't think that this would affect my forwarding, since 
> those headers are not in the message text. If I understand you right, this 
> seems like a very odd choice for Apple to have made.
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Alex,
>> 
>> You can go into Mail prefs and choose the "viewing" tab. There's a drop-down 
>> that will allow you to set which headers show by default. Also, when you 
>> interact with message headers in a message, you can choose whether details 
>> are shown or not, regardless of your default setting.
>> 
>> HtH,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> 
>> On the other hand, there are different fingers.
>> 
>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I just noticed that when I forward mail, the message includes all headers 
>>> before you get to the actual text. I just want the usual forward stuff, 
>>> like sender, subject, and time, not the receive paths and all that. I don't 
>>> know what I changed to have this happen, and any information would be 
>>> appreciated. Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>> mehg...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
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Max MSP accessibility with VO

[Jermaine George]

Hi all.  Just wondering if there's any way Max MSP can be made accessible 
or if there are some scripts of some sort available for it?

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Re: Deleting audible books in iTunes for Donna

[Donna Goodin]

Weird.  Nope, I am talking about a Mac.  and I've tried it several times, tried 
restarting the computer, etc.
Best,
Donna
On Dec 3, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:

> Okay, maybe I'm missing something here; maybe you want to do something more 
> than I am thinking but I'm having no problems deleting audible books from 
> iTunes. I did this on a Mac so if you are talking about iTunes in Windows 
> maybe this won't help.
> 
> i chose books from the pop-up. At first I then chose audiobooks from the 
> radio buttons but when I interacted I had some trouble making sure I only had 
> one book selected. Not wanting to accidentally delete all audibooks I then 
> chose "list" from the radio buttons. But later I was also able to select with 
> the audiobooks radio button chosen.
> 
> In both cases, I did vo-shift-m which brought up a context menu. One of the 
> choices was "delete". I was asked if I really wanted to delete. In the case 
> of doing it from "list" only one part of an audiobook was selected but when 
> deleting using the audiobooks radio button all parts of a book were chosen so 
> that's why when using the audiobooks radio button and deleting a book with 
> more than one part you'll be asked if you want to delete the selected 
> audiobooks. I confirmed that I wanted to delete and was asked if I wanted to 
> keep the files or move them to trash. I made my choice and the book was 
> deleted.
> 
> Hth.
> 
> -- 
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> 
> May the words of my mouth
> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Yeah, that's what I was thinking. That's why I was hoping to be able to do 
>> it that way.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:49 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
>> 
>>> I would also think it better to delete from within iTunes because iTunes 
>>> does maintain an internal catalog of your content and that would get out of 
>>> sync if you pull out files from under it by other means.  I'm not sure if 
>>> iTunes has a way to clean itself up or not.
>>> 
>>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:06 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Allison,
 
 That's my next step. :)  But you've always been able to delete them from 
 within iTunes before, so I was wondering if there was something I was 
 missing.  I find it just much easier usually to be able to delete from 
 within iTunes.
 
 thanks for the suggestion.
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:25 AM, Allison Manzino  wrote:
 
> Hi Donna,
> 
> I'm sure you have tried this already, but how about going to the audio 
> books folder under home/music/itunes/media/audiobooks? Just a thought. I 
> was able to successfully delete audible books this way. I hope this 
> helps. I  havne't tried the way you have with Itunes yet. Have a great 
> day.
> 
> Allison
> 
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Re: iTunes 11: iCloud button and other issues.

[Donna Goodin]

Hey Daniel,

That's great.  thanks for taking the time to talk with them.
Cheers,
Donna
On Dec 3, 2012, at 2:36 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

> Hello,
> Hello,
>  
> I just spoke to Apples accessibility department. I let them know of various 
> iTunes 11 issues, including asking about what that button that simply says 
> ‘iCloud’ is. They told me it’s not really a button you can click, that’s just 
> showing you that you have things stored in iCloud that are available for 
> download. Can anyone that doesn’t have anything stored there confirm that 
> that’s indeed the case?
> Also, I reported the issue with VoiceOver not consistently reading the rows 
> in the artist and albums view for some of you, and they’re going to get back 
> to me by Wednesday with more answers.
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Re: Deleting audible books in iTunes for Donna

[Cheryl Homiak]

Can you explain specifically what happens when you do vo-shift-m? And I know 
this is going to sound obvious, but are you interacting with the books table? I 
ask that only because at one point I couldn't do vo-shift-m and realized that 
while it said the book was selected I wasn't interacting. There has to be a 
reason why this is happening and hopefully somebody can get to the bottom of 
it. But it can't be that iTunes has been changed not to allow deletion of 
audible books or nobody would be able to do it, which I know may not seem very 
encouraging at this point. Also, did you try the list radio button instead of 
the audiobooks radio button?



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be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
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On Dec 3, 2012, at 5:10 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:

> Weird.  Nope, I am talking about a Mac.  and I've tried it several times, 
> tried restarting the computer, etc.
> Best,
> Donna
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> 
>> Okay, maybe I'm missing something here; maybe you want to do something more 
>> than I am thinking but I'm having no problems deleting audible books from 
>> iTunes. I did this on a Mac so if you are talking about iTunes in Windows 
>> maybe this won't help.
>> 
>> i chose books from the pop-up. At first I then chose audiobooks from the 
>> radio buttons but when I interacted I had some trouble making sure I only 
>> had one book selected. Not wanting to accidentally delete all audibooks I 
>> then chose "list" from the radio buttons. But later I was also able to 
>> select with the audiobooks radio button chosen.
>> 
>> In both cases, I did vo-shift-m which brought up a context menu. One of the 
>> choices was "delete". I was asked if I really wanted to delete. In the case 
>> of doing it from "list" only one part of an audiobook was selected but when 
>> deleting using the audiobooks radio button all parts of a book were chosen 
>> so that's why when using the audiobooks radio button and deleting a book 
>> with more than one part you'll be asked if you want to delete the selected 
>> audiobooks. I confirmed that I wanted to delete and was asked if I wanted to 
>> keep the files or move them to trash. I made my choice and the book was 
>> deleted.
>> 
>> Hth.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> May the words of my mouth
>> and the meditation of my heart
>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yeah, that's what I was thinking. That's why I was hoping to be able to do 
>>> it that way.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:49 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
>>> 
 I would also think it better to delete from within iTunes because iTunes 
 does maintain an internal catalog of your content and that would get out 
 of sync if you pull out files from under it by other means.  I'm not sure 
 if iTunes has a way to clean itself up or not.
 
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:06 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
> Hi Allison,
> 
> That's my next step. :)  But you've always been able to delete them from 
> within iTunes before, so I was wondering if there was something I was 
> missing.  I find it just much easier usually to be able to delete from 
> within iTunes.
> 
> thanks for the suggestion.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:25 AM, Allison Manzino  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Donna,
>> 
>> I'm sure you have tried this already, but how about going to the audio 
>> books folder under home/music/itunes/media/audiobooks? Just a thought. I 
>> was able to successfully delete audible books this way. I hope this 
>> helps. I  havne't tried the way you have with Itunes yet. Have a great 
>> day.
>> 
>> Allison
>> 
>> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
>> 
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Re: Deleting audible books in iTunes for Donna

[Taylor Scott]

I have the exact 180 problem. lol
I'm Using a mac too, when deleting 1 book, (Using the delete key) it
deletes every book from the mac.
Before, I would just open the book I wish to delete, do cmd + A to
select all, then tap the backspace key to delete.
Doing the same steps, all books are sent to the trash. :(
I'm also experencing other weird iTunes11 issues though.

On 12/3/12, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
> Can you explain specifically what happens when you do vo-shift-m? And I know
> this is going to sound obvious, but are you interacting with the books
> table? I ask that only because at one point I couldn't do vo-shift-m and
> realized that while it said the book was selected I wasn't interacting.
> There has to be a reason why this is happening and hopefully somebody can
> get to the bottom of it. But it can't be that iTunes has been changed not to
> allow deletion of audible books or nobody would be able to do it, which I
> know may not seem very encouraging at this point. Also, did you try the list
> radio button instead of the audiobooks radio button?
>
>
>
> --
> Cheryl
>
> May the words of my mouth
> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>
>
>
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 5:10 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>
>> Weird.  Nope, I am talking about a Mac.  and I've tried it several times,
>> tried restarting the computer, etc.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>>
>>> Okay, maybe I'm missing something here; maybe you want to do something
>>> more than I am thinking but I'm having no problems deleting audible books
>>> from iTunes. I did this on a Mac so if you are talking about iTunes in
>>> Windows maybe this won't help.
>>>
>>> i chose books from the pop-up. At first I then chose audiobooks from the
>>> radio buttons but when I interacted I had some trouble making sure I only
>>> had one book selected. Not wanting to accidentally delete all audibooks I
>>> then chose "list" from the radio buttons. But later I was also able to
>>> select with the audiobooks radio button chosen.
>>>
>>> In both cases, I did vo-shift-m which brought up a context menu. One of
>>> the choices was "delete". I was asked if I really wanted to delete. In
>>> the case of doing it from "list" only one part of an audiobook was
>>> selected but when deleting using the audiobooks radio button all parts of
>>> a book were chosen so that's why when using the audiobooks radio button
>>> and deleting a book with more than one part you'll be asked if you want
>>> to delete the selected audiobooks. I confirmed that I wanted to delete
>>> and was asked if I wanted to keep the files or move them to trash. I made
>>> my choice and the book was deleted.
>>>
>>> Hth.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheryl
>>>
>>> May the words of my mouth
>>> and the meditation of my heart
>>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>>>
 Yeah, that's what I was thinking. That's why I was hoping to be able to
 do it that way.
 Best,
 Donna

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:49 AM, Steve Holmes 
 wrote:

> I would also think it better to delete from within iTunes because
> iTunes does maintain an internal catalog of your content and that would
> get out of sync if you pull out files from under it by other means.
> I'm not sure if iTunes has a way to clean itself up or not.
>
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:06 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>
>> Hi Allison,
>>
>> That's my next step. :)  But you've always been able to delete them
>> from within iTunes before, so I was wondering if there was something I
>> was missing.  I find it just much easier usually to be able to delete
>> from within iTunes.
>>
>> thanks for the suggestion.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:25 AM, Allison Manzino 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Donna,
>>>
>>> I'm sure you have tried this already, but how about going to the
>>> audio books folder under home/music/itunes/media/audiobooks? Just a
>>> thought. I was able to successfully delete audible books this way. I
>>> hope this helps. I  havne't tried the way you have with Itunes yet.
>>> Have a great day.
>>>
>>> Allison
>>>
>>> My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar!
>>>
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Re: Deleting audible books in iTunes for Donna

[Cheryl Homiak]

I wonder if it's because you are not using the list radio button and therefore 
all or none of the books are being selected instead of the one you wanted. In 
fact, the two of you with opposite problems could both possibly be experiencing 
a selection problem. I know that I was having a problem selecting just one 
book, or at least being sure I was selecting just one book, when I selected the 
audiobooks radio button; when I switched to the "list" radio button I was able 
to select one book and know I had done that and then when I switched back to 
the audiobooks radio button again the problem I had experienced there was gone. 
Just remember that you don't have to choose to send the books to the trash; you 
chan choose to keep the files and then go into finder and check that everything 
is okay and send them to the trash yourself.


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and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)



On Dec 3, 2012, at 5:26 PM, Taylor Scott  wrote:

> I have the exact 180 problem. lol
> I'm Using a mac too, when deleting 1 book, (Using the delete key) it
> deletes every book from the mac.
> Before, I would just open the book I wish to delete, do cmd + A to
> select all, then tap the backspace key to delete.
> Doing the same steps, all books are sent to the trash. :(
> I'm also experencing other weird iTunes11 issues though.
> 
> On 12/3/12, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>> Can you explain specifically what happens when you do vo-shift-m? And I know
>> this is going to sound obvious, but are you interacting with the books
>> table? I ask that only because at one point I couldn't do vo-shift-m and
>> realized that while it said the book was selected I wasn't interacting.
>> There has to be a reason why this is happening and hopefully somebody can
>> get to the bottom of it. But it can't be that iTunes has been changed not to
>> allow deletion of audible books or nobody would be able to do it, which I
>> know may not seem very encouraging at this point. Also, did you try the list
>> radio button instead of the audiobooks radio button?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Cheryl
>> 
>> May the words of my mouth
>> and the meditation of my heart
>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
>> my rock and my Redeemer.
>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 5:10 PM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Weird.  Nope, I am talking about a Mac.  and I've tried it several times,
>>> tried restarting the computer, etc.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Cheryl Homiak  wrote:
>>> 
 Okay, maybe I'm missing something here; maybe you want to do something
 more than I am thinking but I'm having no problems deleting audible books
 from iTunes. I did this on a Mac so if you are talking about iTunes in
 Windows maybe this won't help.
 
 i chose books from the pop-up. At first I then chose audiobooks from the
 radio buttons but when I interacted I had some trouble making sure I only
 had one book selected. Not wanting to accidentally delete all audibooks I
 then chose "list" from the radio buttons. But later I was also able to
 select with the audiobooks radio button chosen.
 
 In both cases, I did vo-shift-m which brought up a context menu. One of
 the choices was "delete". I was asked if I really wanted to delete. In
 the case of doing it from "list" only one part of an audiobook was
 selected but when deleting using the audiobooks radio button all parts of
 a book were chosen so that's why when using the audiobooks radio button
 and deleting a book with more than one part you'll be asked if you want
 to delete the selected audiobooks. I confirmed that I wanted to delete
 and was asked if I wanted to keep the files or move them to trash. I made
 my choice and the book was deleted.
 
 Hth.
 
 --
 Cheryl
 
 May the words of my mouth
 and the meditation of my heart
 be acceptable to You, Lord,
 my rock and my Redeemer.
 (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
 
 
 
 On Dec 3, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
 
> Yeah, that's what I was thinking. That's why I was hoping to be able to
> do it that way.
> Best,
> Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 3, 2012, at 7:49 AM, Steve Holmes 
> wrote:
> 
>> I would also think it better to delete from within iTunes because
>> iTunes does maintain an internal catalog of your content and that would
>> get out of sync if you pull out files from under it by other means.
>> I'm not sure if iTunes has a way to clean itself up or not.
>> 
>> On Dec 3, 2012, at 4:06 AM, Donna Goodin  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Allison,
>>> 
>>> That's my next step. :)  But you've always been able to delete them
>>> from within iTunes before, so I was wondering if there was something I
>>> was missing.  I find it just much easier usually to be

Re: iTunes 11: iCloud button and other issues.

[Mark Baxter]

I still have not seen an answer as to what steps I take to get my column 
browser back?  I see the browser submenu off the View menu, but it's all dimmed 
out.  I cannot find in Preferences or anywhere else the reason for this.  
Having the browser back would go a long way to alleviate my misgivings about 
Itunes 11.


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RE: iTunes 11: iCloud button and other issues.

[Daniel Miller]

Mark,

Change your view to songs, and then it will function like it did in iTunes
10.x

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I still have not seen an answer as to what steps I take to get my column
browser back?  I see the browser submenu off the View menu, but it's all
dimmed out.  I cannot find in Preferences or anywhere else the reason for
this.  Having the browser back would go a long way to alleviate my
misgivings about Itunes 11.


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Re: iTunes 11: iCloud button and other issues.

[Cheryl Homiak]

What do you have selected in the view menu and in view optins: command-j and do 
you have a particular radio button selected? I'm assuming your library popup is 
on music probably.

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On Dec 3, 2012, at 6:34 PM, Mark Baxter  wrote:

> I still have not seen an answer as to what steps I take to get my column 
> browser back?  I see the browser submenu off the View menu, but it's all 
> dimmed out.  I cannot find in Preferences or anywhere else the reason for 
> this.  Having the browser back would go a long way to alleviate my misgivings 
> about Itunes 11.
> 
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Re: iTunes 11: iCloud button and other issues.

[Mark Baxter]

Oh, The easy solution--no wonder I didn't find it. *grin* thanks.


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Re: iTunes 11: iCloud button and other issues.

[Mark Baxter]

Hi, Cheryl.  At the moment, I was viewing by Artists, but changed it to Songs.  
Until now, the column browser options menu in didn't come up. Thanks.


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Re: iTunes again

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
Interact with the album, press vo shift m then play on a track.
On Dec 2, 2012, at 9:20 PM, Agent086b wrote:

> Hello all, sorry for another iTunes question. When going through my albums in 
> the previous iTunes I could press enter on an album to go through the tracks. 
> This does not appear to work in the latest version. How do I see the tracks 
> now?
> Thanks for any advice.
> Max.
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Re: itunes 11 is out

[Dan Roy]

I like it too, granted, the album grid is a little weird, but, I usually use 
song view anyway, I think this interface is much less cluttered than the old 1 
and I can get to things a little bit faster.


On Dec 1, 2012, at 3:44 PM, Richard Ring  wrote:

> I actually like the new interface a lot. I'm finding it incredibly easy to 
> navigate.
> Rich ringrichring@gmail.comSent from my old and true blue White Macbook.
> 
> On Dec 1, 2012, at 3:20 PM, "Daniel Miller"  wrote:
> 
>> Oh don't get me wrong, I like it too, I just feel like they could've
>> polished it a bit accessibility wise before releasing it.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 3:19 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>> 
>> I think you're right. lol.  Though in many ways I like the new interface.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> 
>>> No problem. I'm starting to think that extra time apple took to 'make 
>>> everything right' didn't' pay off.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
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>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 3:07 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>> 
>>> Yeah, thanks.  Will do.
>>> Thanks for trying to help troubleshoot.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>>> 
 That's really weird, because I don't have that problem. Write to 
 accessibil...@apple.com, and explain your exact configuration.
 What model mac you have, OS version, etc.
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
 Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 2:49 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
 
 OK, so I navigate over to Albums and do VO-Space.  then I arrow over 
 to the list of albums, and VO-arrow down to the one I want.  I press 
 VO-Space, and VO says "Album Details.  I interact with that, and VO 
 over to where it says Album tracks. I interact again.  There's 
 obviously a grid there, but all I hear is "Blank, Text".
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Dec 1, 2012, at 9:04 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
 
> Can you give me step-by-step directions on how to reproduce the issue?
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
> 
> Hi Daniel,
> 
> Thanks, that'd be fine, although since others seem to be having the 
> same issue, it might be useful to keep it on list.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Dec 1, 2012, at 8:24 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
>> Odd, cuz I have the opposite issue. I can email you off list of 
>> something if you'd like?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 8:22 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>> 
>> No, I can see tracks fine in artist view, just not album view.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 8:09 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> 
>>> That's odd, because mine works just fine. What view do you have 
>>> your library as? If it's set to artist view, there's a bug with that.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 8:00 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: itunes 11 is out
>>> 
>>> That's exactly what I'm doing.  But when I'm in the list of 
>>> tracks, all VO says is "one item selected, Blank text."  And if I 
>>> VO-arrow right it just keeps saying, "blank, Text".
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 5:26 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>>> 
 Interact with the grid, find an album you want, press VO space, 
 it will expand in place, so immediately interact with the group, 
 and then go all the way to the right again, and you'll see the 
 album tracks
>> grid.
 Yes, it's a lot of interacting, but if you visually think about 
 it, the interface makes a lot of sense.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna 
 Goodin
 Sent: Satur

Re: Automatic video camera on Skype?

[Estelita]

Yeah, it should be, but it doesn't, my husband has to set up the camera.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Chris Blouch 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 6:11 PM
  Subject: Re: Automatic video camera on Skype?


  I think that's the way it works by default. If you answer a video chat 
request Skype will wake up the camera.

  CB


  On 12/3/12 12:27 PM, Estelita wrote:

Hello,
I want the video camera of my MacBook will automatically turn on when the 
call is activated.
Any instruction please?
Thank you.

Nene
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Re: iTunes again

[Kjsc Radio]

Hey is there a way I can search my iPods music? I see search library but it 
doesn't search my iPods music

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On 03/12/2012, at 7:04 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
wrote:

> Hi:
> Interact with the album, press vo shift m then play on a track.
> On Dec 2, 2012, at 9:20 PM, Agent086b wrote:
> 
>> Hello all, sorry for another iTunes question. When going through my albums 
>> in the previous iTunes I could press enter on an album to go through the 
>> tracks. This does not appear to work in the latest version. How do I see the 
>> tracks now?
>> Thanks for any advice.
>> Max.
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