Re: finder frustrations

[Andrew Lamanche]

Alex,

Just a thought on this. How do you open your folders and subfolders generally? 
I always make sure that my subfolders are collapsed and I always open them with 
command+down arrow so that I am sure that I am within the folder I want. 
Therefore, when I start typing the first few letters of a file, I won't ever 
leave the folder. However, if your subfolder is expanded with right arrow key 
press, it is possible that you are searching within more than one folder. 
Voiceover announces to me whether a folder is expanded or collapsed. I'm still 
on lion though.

Hope this helps.

Andrew
On 7 Aug 2012, at 02:05, Alex Hall wrote:

> Hi all,
> I was looking through my large media collection to find the songs I have to 
> practice for Wednesday. I opened the folder they are in and typed the first 
> couple characters, but was taken to the matching song in a folder a level up 
> from where I was, which was, of course, the wrong song entirely. I find this 
> happens a lot: I'm in a folder, but navigating by letter brings me to the 
> parent folder instead of staying inside the folder in which I want to be. I 
> don't know why this happens, and maybe there's a setting I can change to stop 
> it, but it is very frustrating. I prefer the windows way of displaying each 
> folder's content in it's own view, so you are in that folder and not jumping 
> around a massive table, never sure just which folder you are really in. Might 
> there be something I can do to open things in their own views, navigating 
> back with cmd-leftBracket or a similar keystroke? I hate to bring up Windows, 
> but I do find Explorer's layout a lot easier to manage than how finder does 
> things. Thanks.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap
> 
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Re: connectinng to my Ethernet port on my router

[Andrew Lamanche]

You can get an usb to ethernet adaptor for macbook air.
On 7 Aug 2012, at 02:44, Alex Hall wrote:

> Well, that's something you may want to research. The ones I've seen have 
> them, but I can't promise they are the latest generation. I know the Macbook 
> Airs have no ethernet, but I thought the minis, iMacs, and macbook pros did. 
> Still, you should look into the model you plan to get to be sure.
> On Aug 6, 2012, at 9:32 PM, agent086b  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, I was under the impression that an iMac did not come with an 
>> Ethernet card in it.
>> Max.
>>  Original Message 
>> Subject: Re: connectinng to my Ethernet port on my router
>> From: Alex Hall 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 21:25:11 -0400
>>> You connect the ethernet cable to one of the ports on the router (if you 
>>> also have a modem, make sure the chord is not going into the port set aside 
>>> for the modem) and the other end into the iMac. I've not tried it 
>>> personally, but the mac should then automatically find the connection and 
>>> start using it, prompting for a password if you have one set but otherwise 
>>> operating normally.
>>> On Aug 6, 2012, at 9:11 PM, agent086b  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 how do I connect an iMac to an Ethernet port on my router? I don't wish to 
 connect to the router wirelessly as I like the quicker speeds via an 
 Ethernet connection.
 
 Thanks for any advice.
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Re: finder frustrations

[Red.Falcon]

Hi Alex!
I suppose you are using arrows to open the folders!
OK when you get to that folder instead of using arrow open with Command+O
 and you should have only that folder open and not end up somewhere else!
hth 
Colin

On 7 Aug 2012, at 02:05, Alex Hall wrote:

> Hi all,
> I was looking through my large media collection to find the songs I have to 
> practice for Wednesday. I opened the folder they are in and typed the first 
> couple characters, but was taken to the matching song in a folder a level up 
> from where I was, which was, of course, the wrong song entirely. I find this 
> happens a lot: I'm in a folder, but navigating by letter brings me to the 
> parent folder instead of staying inside the folder in which I want to be. I 
> don't know why this happens, and maybe there's a setting I can change to stop 
> it, but it is very frustrating. I prefer the windows way of displaying each 
> folder's content in it's own view, so you are in that folder and not jumping 
> around a massive table, never sure just which folder you are really in. Might 
> there be something I can do to open things in their own views, navigating 
> back with cmd-leftBracket or a similar keystroke? I hate to bring up Windows, 
> but I do find Explorer's layout a lot easier to manage than how finder does 
> things. Thanks.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap
> 
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Re: Pages etc

[Chris Moore]

In terms of accessibility? no, just as hard work as ever.  Still too many 
things to interact and Numbers still does not read out ranges correctly etc.

The amount of interacting you have to do drives me nuts.  I wonder if Google 
search would be as popular if you had to do 6 mouse clicks to get through a 
series of web pages before you could actually reach the search box? That is a 
lot of hoops to jump through just to perform a basic task.  Welcome to iWork!

On 7 Aug 2012, at 02:17, agent086b  wrote:

> Hi,
> I am about to order my iMac in the next week or two.
> I have been away the last month so have not kept up with the release of 
> Mountain Lion. Has there been any changes to Pages and the spreadsheet 
> program who's name I have forgotten. I sea options to order them at the same 
> time for about 20 something dollars each.
> Thanks again.
> Max.
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Re: finder frustrations

[William Windels]

Hello, Alex and others,
I simply use column view as my default view.
With that view, I press (vo)right arrow to open a folder and (vo)left to close.
When I open/close folders on that way, only the contents of that folder is 
available.
Whhen I want more details of a file/folder, , I switch to the list view with 
command+2 and back to column view with command+3.

Hope this helps,

kind regards,
William Windels 

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad

Op 7-aug.-2012 om 09:20 heeft "Red.Falcon"  
het volgende geschreven:

> Hi Alex!
> I suppose you are using arrows to open the folders!
> OK when you get to that folder instead of using arrow open with Command+O
>  and you should have only that folder open and not end up somewhere else!
> hth 
> Colin
> 
> On 7 Aug 2012, at 02:05, Alex Hall wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I was looking through my large media collection to find the songs I have to 
>> practice for Wednesday. I opened the folder they are in and typed the first 
>> couple characters, but was taken to the matching song in a folder a level up 
>> from where I was, which was, of course, the wrong song entirely. I find this 
>> happens a lot: I'm in a folder, but navigating by letter brings me to the 
>> parent folder instead of staying inside the folder in which I want to be. I 
>> don't know why this happens, and maybe there's a setting I can change to 
>> stop it, but it is very frustrating. I prefer the windows way of displaying 
>> each folder's content in it's own view, so you are in that folder and not 
>> jumping around a massive table, never sure just which folder you are really 
>> in. Might there be something I can do to open things in their own views, 
>> navigating back with cmd-leftBracket or a similar keystroke? I hate to bring 
>> up Windows, but I do find Explorer's layout a lot easier to manage than how 
>> finder does things. Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap
>> 
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Mac and startup repair or equivalent

[Chris Hallsworth]

Good morning all.
On the mac, is there some type of startup repair, and if so can we use 
VoiceOver with it? Thanks!


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Re: how to drag the dmg image?

[Andrew Lamanche]

I have accomplished this by downloading and running a free application called 
Lion Diskmaker 2rc2.app. They welcome donations but you are not obliged to pay.

Once you paste this application into your application folder, open it. It will 
locate your .dmg file and will ask you on which drive you wish to create a 
bootable image. Choose your drive or partition, and job done. First time I did 
it, the application actually informed me that it had completed the task. But 
next time, it just hung there. I had to force quit it  but when I tested the 
usb flash drive by booting from it, it worked fine. 
You should be able to find the relevant web page in Google.

Good luck.

Andrew
On 7 Aug 2012, at 04:11, Kliphton wrote:

>> Okay, read the instructions on how to do a clean install from a usb thumb 
>> drive.   And after you partition, or erase and mount the USB storage, it 
>> says put the dmg file in a folder where you can find it.  I did all that, 
>> now how do I drag it to this usb drive so I can restore.  I launch disc 
>> utility, but have know clue on how to mount the dmg file.  An I missing 
>> something?
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Re: Mac and startup repair or equivalent

[Andrew Lamanche]

Yes, if you run Lion or Mountain Lion, you can start your computer from the 
hidden recovery partition.

Shut down your computer.
Power it back on and immediately hold down command+r keys. The computer should 
boot from the recovery partition. 
Note! Give it some good while because at this stage you have no speech. 
Then activate Voiceover with command+f5. You will gett a different voice here 
so don't panic.
You will be placed on the table of available applications/functions. Interact.
At the bottom of the list you will find disk utility application. Stop 
interacting with the table and move right to press go button if I remember 
correctly.
Disk utility will be launched. From there you can repair permissions, and 
verify disk. If there is a problem, you will be given a chance to repair it.

Hope this helps

Andrew
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> Good morning all.
> On the mac, is there some type of startup repair, and if so can we use 
> VoiceOver with it? Thanks!
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Questions

[Gavin Grundlingh]

Hi all,

Long time no speak. I have a couple of questions regarding YoruFukurou and 
booting from an external DVD drive.

1. Are there any shortcuts to follow or unfollow users in YoruFukurou? Unless 
I'm thinking of a different application, I should be able to use 
Command-Option-O to follow and Command-Option-U to unfollow, but those don't 
seem to do anything. Also, is there a way to follow or unfollow a user by 
entering a user ID?

2. I have an external USB DVD drive. It's an LG HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-E10L. I 
wanted to boot from a Windows install disk, but I keep getting a black screen 
with a flashing cursor. I have tried disks for Windows XP Professional, Windows 
Vista Ultimate and Windows 7 Ultimate, and the same happens with each of them. 
Is the Mac unable to boot from certain drives? I've used this DVD drive on 
other computers and it works just fine. I can't use my Mac's internal drive 
because it keeps ejecting disks, so I can't verify that the DVD's I'm trying to 
use will work natively. I'm including the details from System Information below 
incase it'll be of any help:

HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-E10L:

  Firmware Revision:LE05
  Interconnect: USB
  Burn Support: Yes (Generic Drive Support)
  Profile Path: None
  Cache:2048 KB
  Reads DVD:Yes
  CD-Write: -R, -RW
  DVD-Write:-R, -R DL, -RAM, -RW, +R, +R DL, +RW
  Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO
  Media:To show the available burn speeds, insert a disc and choose 
File > Refresh Information

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

Regards,

Gavin Grundlingh
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Managing lists in yorufukurou

[Daniel Montalvo]

Hello:

I wonder whether you can manage lists using only yorufukurou. By
managing lists I mean being able to create or eliminate a list and
adding and removing users from the lists one have created. I know this
can be done through the web interface of Twitter, but it is just
terrible.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Managing lists in yorufukurou

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Daniel,

It is possible to manage lists in night Owl. I will ink you to someone's 3-part 
demonstration of how this is done via Audioboo.
Creating a Twitter list in night owl part one on @audioboo 
http://boo.fm/b882174
Creating Twitter lists in night owl part two on @audioboo 
http://boo.fm/b882181
Creating Twitter lists in night owl part three. on @audioboo 
http://boo.fm/b882186

On Aug 7, 2012, at 4:37 AM, Daniel Montalvo  wrote:

> Hello:
> 
> I wonder whether you can manage lists using only yorufukurou. By
> managing lists I mean being able to create or eliminate a list and
> adding and removing users from the lists one have created. I know this
> can be done through the web interface of Twitter, but it is just
> terrible.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
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Re: Questions

[Rachel Feinberg]

You can follow someone by inputting their user ID with command+u. Then a table 
will come up containing their tweets. To quickly get to the user menu where 
following/unfollowing is possible, once their timeline is up, or you're focused 
on a tweet of their's, press command+option+apostrophe.
Then you can vo+space on the menu, and you'll have all those options.
HTH,
rachel
On Aug 7, 2012, at 4:27 AM, Gavin Grundlingh  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Long time no speak. I have a couple of questions regarding YoruFukurou and 
> booting from an external DVD drive.
> 
> 1. Are there any shortcuts to follow or unfollow users in YoruFukurou? Unless 
> I'm thinking of a different application, I should be able to use 
> Command-Option-O to follow and Command-Option-U to unfollow, but those don't 
> seem to do anything. Also, is there a way to follow or unfollow a user by 
> entering a user ID?
> 
> 2. I have an external USB DVD drive. It's an LG HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-E10L. I 
> wanted to boot from a Windows install disk, but I keep getting a black screen 
> with a flashing cursor. I have tried disks for Windows XP Professional, 
> Windows Vista Ultimate and Windows 7 Ultimate, and the same happens with each 
> of them. Is the Mac unable to boot from certain drives? I've used this DVD 
> drive on other computers and it works just fine. I can't use my Mac's 
> internal drive because it keeps ejecting disks, so I can't verify that the 
> DVD's I'm trying to use will work natively. I'm including the details from 
> System Information below incase it'll be of any help:
> 
> HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-E10L:
> 
>   Firmware Revision:  LE05
>   Interconnect:   USB
>   Burn Support:   Yes (Generic Drive Support)
>   Profile Path:   None
>   Cache:  2048 KB
>   Reads DVD:  Yes
>   CD-Write:   -R, -RW
>   DVD-Write:  -R, -R DL, -RAM, -RW, +R, +R DL, +RW
>   Write Strategies:   CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO
>   Media:  To show the available burn speeds, insert a disc and choose 
> File > Refresh Information
> 
> Thanks in advance for any feedback.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gavin Grundlingh
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Re: Questions

[Ricardo Walker]

Boot from a windows install disk?  I would assume you would need to use Boot 
Camp first to install windows on your Mac.

Ricardo Walker
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On Aug 7, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Gavin Grundlingh  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Long time no speak. I have a couple of questions regarding YoruFukurou and 
> booting from an external DVD drive.
> 
> 1. Are there any shortcuts to follow or unfollow users in YoruFukurou? Unless 
> I'm thinking of a different application, I should be able to use 
> Command-Option-O to follow and Command-Option-U to unfollow, but those don't 
> seem to do anything. Also, is there a way to follow or unfollow a user by 
> entering a user ID?
> 
> 2. I have an external USB DVD drive. It's an LG HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-E10L. I 
> wanted to boot from a Windows install disk, but I keep getting a black screen 
> with a flashing cursor. I have tried disks for Windows XP Professional, 
> Windows Vista Ultimate and Windows 7 Ultimate, and the same happens with each 
> of them. Is the Mac unable to boot from certain drives? I've used this DVD 
> drive on other computers and it works just fine. I can't use my Mac's 
> internal drive because it keeps ejecting disks, so I can't verify that the 
> DVD's I'm trying to use will work natively. I'm including the details from 
> System Information below incase it'll be of any help:
> 
> HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-E10L:
> 
>  Firmware Revision:   LE05
>  Interconnect:USB
>  Burn Support:Yes (Generic Drive Support)
>  Profile Path:None
>  Cache:   2048 KB
>  Reads DVD:   Yes
>  CD-Write:-R, -RW
>  DVD-Write:   -R, -R DL, -RAM, -RW, +R, +R DL, +RW
>  Write Strategies:CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO
>  Media:   To show the available burn speeds, insert a disc and choose 
> File > Refresh Information
> 
> Thanks in advance for any feedback.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gavin Grundlingh
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Re: finder frustrations

[Alex Hall]

Thanks all. Yes, I use right arrow to open, but I'll try cmd-o (or cmd-down, as 
I think it does the same thing) from now on and see if that makes a difference. 
I'll also play with the different views to see if one works better.
On Aug 7, 2012, at 5:24 AM, William Windels  wrote:

> Hello, Alex and others,
> I simply use column view as my default view.
> With that view, I press (vo)right arrow to open a folder and (vo)left to 
> close.
> When I open/close folders on that way, only the contents of that folder is 
> available.
> Whhen I want more details of a file/folder, , I switch to the list view with 
> command+2 and back to column view with command+3.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> kind regards,
> William Windels 
> 
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
> 
> Op 7-aug.-2012 om 09:20 heeft "Red.Falcon"  
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> Hi Alex!
>> I suppose you are using arrows to open the folders!
>> OK when you get to that folder instead of using arrow open with Command+O
>>  and you should have only that folder open and not end up somewhere else!
>> hth 
>> Colin
>> 
>> On 7 Aug 2012, at 02:05, Alex Hall wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> I was looking through my large media collection to find the songs I have to 
>>> practice for Wednesday. I opened the folder they are in and typed the first 
>>> couple characters, but was taken to the matching song in a folder a level 
>>> up from where I was, which was, of course, the wrong song entirely. I find 
>>> this happens a lot: I'm in a folder, but navigating by letter brings me to 
>>> the parent folder instead of staying inside the folder in which I want to 
>>> be. I don't know why this happens, and maybe there's a setting I can change 
>>> to stop it, but it is very frustrating. I prefer the windows way of 
>>> displaying each folder's content in it's own view, so you are in that 
>>> folder and not jumping around a massive table, never sure just which folder 
>>> you are really in. Might there be something I can do to open things in 
>>> their own views, navigating back with cmd-leftBracket or a similar 
>>> keystroke? I hate to bring up Windows, but I do find Explorer's layout a 
>>> lot easier to manage than how finder does things. Thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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>>> 
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Re: finder frustrations

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I prefer the column view myself.  List view talks too much for me.  Most of the 
time, I don't need to know the date the file or folder was created.

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On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Thanks all. Yes, I use right arrow to open, but I'll try cmd-o (or cmd-down, 
> as I think it does the same thing) from now on and see if that makes a 
> difference. I'll also play with the different views to see if one works 
> better.
> On Aug 7, 2012, at 5:24 AM, William Windels  wrote:
> 
>> Hello, Alex and others,
>> I simply use column view as my default view.
>> With that view, I press (vo)right arrow to open a folder and (vo)left to 
>> close.
>> When I open/close folders on that way, only the contents of that folder is 
>> available.
>> Whhen I want more details of a file/folder, , I switch to the list view with 
>> command+2 and back to column view with command+3.
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> 
>> kind regards,
>> William Windels 
>> 
>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>> 
>> Op 7-aug.-2012 om 09:20 heeft "Red.Falcon" 
>>  het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>>> Hi Alex!
>>> I suppose you are using arrows to open the folders!
>>> OK when you get to that folder instead of using arrow open with Command+O
>>>  and you should have only that folder open and not end up somewhere else!
>>> hth 
>>> Colin
>>> 
>>> On 7 Aug 2012, at 02:05, Alex Hall wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 I was looking through my large media collection to find the songs I have 
 to practice for Wednesday. I opened the folder they are in and typed the 
 first couple characters, but was taken to the matching song in a folder a 
 level up from where I was, which was, of course, the wrong song entirely. 
 I find this happens a lot: I'm in a folder, but navigating by letter 
 brings me to the parent folder instead of staying inside the folder in 
 which I want to be. I don't know why this happens, and maybe there's a 
 setting I can change to stop it, but it is very frustrating. I prefer the 
 windows way of displaying each folder's content in it's own view, so you 
 are in that folder and not jumping around a massive table, never sure just 
 which folder you are really in. Might there be something I can do to open 
 things in their own views, navigating back with cmd-leftBracket or a 
 similar keystroke? I hate to bring up Windows, but I do find Explorer's 
 layout a lot easier to manage than how finder does things. Thanks.
 
 
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Re: Questions

[Maria Chapman]

hi if you press command n for a new tweet and press F followed by the at sign 
and the user ID that is another way to follow someone.

hth

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On 07/08/2012, at 9:27 PM, Gavin Grundlingh  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Long time no speak. I have a couple of questions regarding YoruFukurou and 
> booting from an external DVD drive.
> 
> 1. Are there any shortcuts to follow or unfollow users in YoruFukurou? Unless 
> I'm thinking of a different application, I should be able to use 
> Command-Option-O to follow and Command-Option-U to unfollow, but those don't 
> seem to do anything. Also, is there a way to follow or unfollow a user by 
> entering a user ID?
> 
> 2. I have an external USB DVD drive. It's an LG HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-E10L. I 
> wanted to boot from a Windows install disk, but I keep getting a black screen 
> with a flashing cursor. I have tried disks for Windows XP Professional, 
> Windows Vista Ultimate and Windows 7 Ultimate, and the same happens with each 
> of them. Is the Mac unable to boot from certain drives? I've used this DVD 
> drive on other computers and it works just fine. I can't use my Mac's 
> internal drive because it keeps ejecting disks, so I can't verify that the 
> DVD's I'm trying to use will work natively. I'm including the details from 
> System Information below incase it'll be of any help:
> 
> HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-E10L:
> 
>   Firmware Revision:  LE05
>   Interconnect:   USB
>   Burn Support:   Yes (Generic Drive Support)
>   Profile Path:   None
>   Cache:  2048 KB
>   Reads DVD:  Yes
>   CD-Write:   -R, -RW
>   DVD-Write:  -R, -R DL, -RAM, -RW, +R, +R DL, +RW
>   Write Strategies:   CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO
>   Media:  To show the available burn speeds, insert a disc and choose 
> File > Refresh Information
> 
> Thanks in advance for any feedback.
> 
> Regards,
> 
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messages app for chatting with Facebook friends?

[Angie Giltinan]

Hi all, I thought I read a post where someone said we could use the messages 
app to do facebook chat, Is this the case, and if so, how could this be 
accomplished.  If not, is there an app to do that on the mac?
Thanks!
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Re: After installing ML my mailboxes are MIA

[Maria Chapman]

hi.

mm I'm not seeing this.  just moved a message in to my saved mesages without 
any problems.

Sorry i couldn't be of any more help.


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On 07/08/2012, at 4:47 PM, Johnny Angel!  wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> After installing ML, I have discovered that when I went to move a post into a 
> previously set up mailbox, all of my mailboxes are missing. Here's what I 
> have done in the past:
> 
> after reading a post that I feel I need to save, I would close the message 
> and press VO + Shift + "M" t bring up the context menu with all of my 
> mailboxes listed.  Ten I would go to "Move To" option in that list and hit 
> return or right arrow  to open the list. Then I would go to the mailbox I 
> wish to save the said post into and hit return on that mailbox, and walla! 
> The post is moved.  however I cannot see my mailboxes in this list anymore.  
> If I stop interacting with the messages table and VO+left arrow over to the 
> mailboxes menu, listed there are all of the mailboxes I have created.
> 
> How do I repopulate the context menu to show my mailboxes once again?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Johnny
> 
> 
> Not of this world,
> I am born of The forty-second generation
> A new, powerful race, never seen before.
> 
> Wish to join?
> 
> Initiation is completely FREE!
> 
> NOTE: Limited time sensitive offer.
> 
> Johnny "Angel" Chilelli
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Pages etc

[Maria Chapman]

Hi.  I get on ok with pages.  I don't have numbers yet.

Hopefully someone else will chime in.


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On 07/08/2012, at 11:17 AM, agent086b  wrote:

> Hi,
> I am about to order my iMac in the next week or two.
> I have been away the last month so have not kept up with the release of 
> Mountain Lion. Has there been any changes to Pages and the spreadsheet 
> program who's name I have forgotten. I sea options to order them at the same 
> time for about 20 something dollars each.
> Thanks again.
> Max.
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ML Safari and tables

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

Hi All,

Since installing ML and the latest Safari build, my business internet banking 
has failed to work correctly.

I'm not sure if this is the bank and the way its site is built, or the new 
latest Safari build.

Basically, in SL and Lion, I used to be able to configure payments by setting 
the date etc, then tab through a table of payees and select the ones I wish to 
pay.


Now the tab key jumps the entire list of check boxes and leaps to the end 
continue button. I can do nothing to work with that table.

If I use the item chooser etc that finds the items, but, pressing return on the 
item leaps right to the continue button.

Using the VO right arrow from the date area also jumps the hole lot.

Any thoughts, has anyone else experienced this with HSBC banking online, or, 
any other site that did work OK with SL and Lion, but not ML.

thanks for any thoughts and ideas.

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Re: messages app for chatting with Facebook friends?

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Hi.  you should be able to do this with adium.

hth.


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> Hi all, I thought I read a post where someone said we could use the messages 
> app to do facebook chat, Is this the case, and if so, how could this be 
> accomplished.  If not, is there an app to do that on the mac?
> Thanks!
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Re: ML Safari and tables

[Chris Blouch]

In Safari Preferences Advanced tab there is a checkbox (at least on OSX 
10.7) to press tab to highlight each item on a web page. Otherwise I 
think tab only navigates between form elements. Maybe you had this on 
before and it got turned off in the upgrade.


CB

On 8/7/12 9:25 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

Hi All,

Since installing ML and the latest Safari build, my business internet banking 
has failed to work correctly.

I'm not sure if this is the bank and the way its site is built, or the new 
latest Safari build.

Basically, in SL and Lion, I used to be able to configure payments by setting 
the date etc, then tab through a table of payees and select the ones I wish to 
pay.


Now the tab key jumps the entire list of check boxes and leaps to the end 
continue button. I can do nothing to work with that table.

If I use the item chooser etc that finds the items, but, pressing return on the 
item leaps right to the continue button.

Using the VO right arrow from the date area also jumps the hole lot.

Any thoughts, has anyone else experienced this with HSBC banking online, or, 
any other site that did work OK with SL and Lion, but not ML.

thanks for any thoughts and ideas.



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Re: ML Safari and tables

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

that might make sense if the issue was only when using the tab key.

but, I also cannot navigate into the table by using the Voice Over right arrow 
command, in other words, Voice Over skips the entire table no matter what I do.

Interestingly though, Voice Over knows the table is there, and even its 
content, as I can use the Item Chooser to see whats there.
On 7 Aug 2012, at 14:36, Chris Blouch  wrote:

> In Safari Preferences Advanced tab there is a checkbox (at least on OSX 10.7) 
> to press tab to highlight each item on a web page. Otherwise I think tab only 
> navigates between form elements. Maybe you had this on before and it got 
> turned off in the upgrade.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 8/7/12 9:25 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Since installing ML and the latest Safari build, my business internet 
>> banking has failed to work correctly.
>> 
>> I'm not sure if this is the bank and the way its site is built, or the new 
>> latest Safari build.
>> 
>> Basically, in SL and Lion, I used to be able to configure payments by 
>> setting the date etc, then tab through a table of payees and select the ones 
>> I wish to pay.
>> 
>> 
>> Now the tab key jumps the entire list of check boxes and leaps to the end 
>> continue button. I can do nothing to work with that table.
>> 
>> If I use the item chooser etc that finds the items, but, pressing return on 
>> the item leaps right to the continue button.
>> 
>> Using the VO right arrow from the date area also jumps the hole lot.
>> 
>> Any thoughts, has anyone else experienced this with HSBC banking online, or, 
>> any other site that did work OK with SL and Lion, but not ML.
>> 
>> thanks for any thoughts and ideas.
>> 
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Re: REally getting p/o'd with trying to search Mac with ML

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HI.  spot light is working fine here.


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On 07/08/2012, at 6:26 AM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> as I wrote just before I read your message: Spotlight and VoiceOver doesn't 
> seem to work together in Mountain Lion. Could be something for the 
> accessibility team.
> 
> Regards
> Jürgen
> Am 06.08.2012 um 20:26 schrieb Christine Grassman :
> 
>> Tim, do me a favor. Either here or in a private message, describe how it is 
>> displaying for you when you put in a search term in Spotlight. I get a "show 
>> in finder" which doesn't seem to do anything, followed by a list of finds. 
>> However, when I try to choose one of the finds, it disappears, and I then am 
>> faced with "search for (search term or phrase) on the Web, followed by the 
>> same for WikiPedia, etc. I can never get back to the original list or open 
>> any finds; if I switch to finder, it only shows whatever finder window was 
>> open before I started.
>> Christine
>> On Aug 6, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hmmm.  Not sure then as I cannot duplicate this.  It works properly for me.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On 2012-08-06, at 11:24 AM, Christine Grassman  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 It's on. Never have shut it off, as far as I know.
 On Aug 6, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 
> Check in VO Utility to see what cursors are following each other.  If 
> they appear to be normal, make sure that cursor tracking is still on.  
> Sometimes, you turn it off for some reason but forget to turn it back on 
> and then things can get frustrating.  Press VO-shift-f3 and VO should 
> announce "Cursor tracking On" or "Cursor tracking Off".  You should want 
> it on.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-08-06, at 10:42 AM, Christine Grassman  
> wrote:
> 
>> OK, folks, I'm at that "I would love to be able, without dire 
>> consequences, to throw this thing across the room." Whether I try to use 
>> Spotlight or Finder to search for things, interacting does not help, and 
>> if by chance I get what I'm looking for in the list, pressing Vo space 
>> doesn't open it for me. Anyone have hints/tips/anger management 
>> strategies? (Latter is just kidding. Really.)
>> Christine
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Re: ML Safari and tables

[Red.Falcon]

Hi!
Just in case see if you can do it with locking the VO  keys [VO+semi colon] and 
then using just the arrow keys get through the table! But remember to unlock! 
*smile*
Colin

On 7 Aug 2012, at 14:42, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

> that might make sense if the issue was only when using the tab key.
> 
> but, I also cannot navigate into the table by using the Voice Over right 
> arrow command, in other words, Voice Over skips the entire table no matter 
> what I do.
> 
> Interestingly though, Voice Over knows the table is there, and even its 
> content, as I can use the Item Chooser to see whats there.
> On 7 Aug 2012, at 14:36, Chris Blouch  wrote:
> 
>> In Safari Preferences Advanced tab there is a checkbox (at least on OSX 
>> 10.7) to press tab to highlight each item on a web page. Otherwise I think 
>> tab only navigates between form elements. Maybe you had this on before and 
>> it got turned off in the upgrade.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 8/7/12 9:25 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> Since installing ML and the latest Safari build, my business internet 
>>> banking has failed to work correctly.
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure if this is the bank and the way its site is built, or the new 
>>> latest Safari build.
>>> 
>>> Basically, in SL and Lion, I used to be able to configure payments by 
>>> setting the date etc, then tab through a table of payees and select the 
>>> ones I wish to pay.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Now the tab key jumps the entire list of check boxes and leaps to the end 
>>> continue button. I can do nothing to work with that table.
>>> 
>>> If I use the item chooser etc that finds the items, but, pressing return on 
>>> the item leaps right to the continue button.
>>> 
>>> Using the VO right arrow from the date area also jumps the hole lot.
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts, has anyone else experienced this with HSBC banking online, 
>>> or, any other site that did work OK with SL and Lion, but not ML.
>>> 
>>> thanks for any thoughts and ideas.
>>> 
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Re: another scanning products question

[Maria Chapman]

Hi.  can you describe ipal.  is it a camera that connects to the mac?


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On 07/08/2012, at 1:41 AM, Kaare Dehard  wrote:

> Hi folks. To add to these products, I heard somewhere that Eyepal was 
> available for the mac. This was some time ago and I had also heard that they 
> were working on improvements as it was rudimentary. 
> Does anyone know how eye pal is now with the mac, have the improvements been 
> made?On 2012-08-06, at 11:35 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
> 
>> Hello Anne.
>> How do you preform OCR with Vuscan?
>> Thanks,
>> Matthew Campbell.
>> 
>> 
>> On 2012-08-05, at 1:11 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Chenelle,
>>> 
>>> VueScan costs $39.95 for a one-year license, or $79.95 for a lifetime 
>>> license. It supports the vast majority of scanners and produces excellent 
>>> images. It can also do OCR but isn't as good as ABBYY FineReader for this. 
>>> I think that FineReader costs around $80 dollars but can't say for sure as 
>>> I'm in the euro zone not the US.
>>> 
>>> You have to buy VueScan direct from the developer, at
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So, the combination of VueScan and ABBYY FineReader is cheaper than 
>>> DocuScan but takes more setting up.
>>> 
>>> I put together a little user guide for VueScan with ABBYY FineReader, so if 
>>> you choose to go that route, let me know and I'll send it to you.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 5 Aug 2012, at 15:27, Chenelle Hancock wrote:
>>> 
 Hi  anne,
 
 thanks so much for the  advice i really do appreciate it.  however, do 
 abby find reader or doc you scan cost anything and how much  would they 
 both be to purchase  if i had to get either one or the other?.
 thanks so much again for your help.
 sincerely, chenelle
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Re: ML Safari and tables

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Hi Neil.

Occasionally I use HSBC Internet Banking (However not tried it in ML) yet.  
When doing it with Lion, when getting to the tables for interactions or if to 
transfer money or to pay a payee, I'd do vo down arrow to go down rather than 
across as at times that worked.  I've not had too much luck with HSBC internet 
banking but haven't tried it in ML yet.  The website works better under Jaws as 
they designed it with jaws in mind.  Mind you I tried Fast Balance (an 
application for the I phone) as it's separate to Business Banking and when I 
spoke to the Internet Team about this they said they were working on a fix as 
it was not accessible yet with Voice Over but they would not give me a date to 
when it would be fixed.

Kawal.

On 7 Aug 2012, at 02:25 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav  
wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Since installing ML and the latest Safari build, my business internet banking 
> has failed to work correctly.
> 
> I'm not sure if this is the bank and the way its site is built, or the new 
> latest Safari build.
> 
> Basically, in SL and Lion, I used to be able to configure payments by setting 
> the date etc, then tab through a table of payees and select the ones I wish 
> to pay.
> 
> 
> Now the tab key jumps the entire list of check boxes and leaps to the end 
> continue button. I can do nothing to work with that table.
> 
> If I use the item chooser etc that finds the items, but, pressing return on 
> the item leaps right to the continue button.
> 
> Using the VO right arrow from the date area also jumps the hole lot.
> 
> Any thoughts, has anyone else experienced this with HSBC banking online, or, 
> any other site that did work OK with SL and Lion, but not ML.
> 
> thanks for any thoughts and ideas.
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Re: finder frustrations

[Alex Hall]

I just did a quick test. In column view (cmd-3), you can still right arrow on a 
folder to open it, and left arrow to close it, but typing letters searches that 
folder first, which list view seems not to do. Also, you have to left arrow a 
few times to close in list view, but column view you only need to do it once. I 
almost never care about additional file info, and if I need it I have cmd-i, so 
I think column view will be my default from now on as it seems to work better. 
That said, how do I set it to be my default, or will it remember my preference 
once I hit cmd-3?
On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:13 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I prefer the column view myself.  List view talks too much for me.  Most of 
> the time, I don't need to know the date the file or folder was created.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
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> 
> On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks all. Yes, I use right arrow to open, but I'll try cmd-o (or cmd-down, 
>> as I think it does the same thing) from now on and see if that makes a 
>> difference. I'll also play with the different views to see if one works 
>> better.
>> On Aug 7, 2012, at 5:24 AM, William Windels  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello, Alex and others,
>>> I simply use column view as my default view.
>>> With that view, I press (vo)right arrow to open a folder and (vo)left to 
>>> close.
>>> When I open/close folders on that way, only the contents of that folder is 
>>> available.
>>> Whhen I want more details of a file/folder, , I switch to the list view 
>>> with command+2 and back to column view with command+3.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> 
>>> kind regards,
>>> William Windels 
>>> 
>>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
>>> 
>>> Op 7-aug.-2012 om 09:20 heeft "Red.Falcon" 
>>>  het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
 Hi Alex!
 I suppose you are using arrows to open the folders!
 OK when you get to that folder instead of using arrow open with Command+O
 and you should have only that folder open and not end up somewhere else!
 hth 
 Colin
 
 On 7 Aug 2012, at 02:05, Alex Hall wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> I was looking through my large media collection to find the songs I have 
> to practice for Wednesday. I opened the folder they are in and typed the 
> first couple characters, but was taken to the matching song in a folder a 
> level up from where I was, which was, of course, the wrong song entirely. 
> I find this happens a lot: I'm in a folder, but navigating by letter 
> brings me to the parent folder instead of staying inside the folder in 
> which I want to be. I don't know why this happens, and maybe there's a 
> setting I can change to stop it, but it is very frustrating. I prefer the 
> windows way of displaying each folder's content in it's own view, so you 
> are in that folder and not jumping around a massive table, never sure 
> just which folder you are really in. Might there be something I can do to 
> open things in their own views, navigating back with cmd-leftBracket or a 
> similar keystroke? I hate to bring up Windows, but I do find Explorer's 
> layout a lot easier to manage than how finder does things. Thanks.
> 
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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> 
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Re: Preview versus skim?

[Maria Chapman]

Hi.  i normally open a file in skim or preview and interact with the text.  I 
then do a command a to select everything and command c to copy.  I then paste 
it in to a text editor.  Pressing command shift t in itext express and text 
edit will give you a plain text version.

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On 06/08/2012, at 11:58 PM, Jürgen Fleger  wrote:

> The only idea seems to be to write to Apple Accessibility and hope that 
> the'll change it soon.
> 
> Jürgen
> 
> Am 06.08.2012 um 05:25 schrieb Dan Roy :
> 
>> Esther:
>> 
>> Thanks vary much for this resource, it's most appreciated.  It does 
>> definitely have more options.
>> 
>> unfortunately, it didn't eliminate the 1 big problem I am having with 
>> Preview.
>> 
>> After interacting with the text and then trying to read through the file, I 
>> am getting words that appear to be split by either a space or a hard return.
>> 
>> So, the word review might come out as re view.  This happens all the time 
>> and is quite annoying.  I have played with all the viewing options and can't 
>> seem to eliminate this issue.  It seems like it first reared up in Lion and 
>> has continued in the mountain version.  if you or anyone else has any ideas 
>> on this, I would appreciate some help if possible, thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 5, 2012, at 12:16 AM, Esther  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Chris,
>>> 
>>> Skim has been referred to as "Preview on steroids".  It's free and open 
>>> source with a creative commons license, and gets frequent updates.  You can 
>>> download the latest version from Source Forge:
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/skim-app/files/
>>> I don't know that there are any "cons" about using Skim, except that since 
>>> it has a lot of options, there's more to navigate in the basic 
>>> distribution, and it has more features than you will use.  The quick 
>>> description is that it is laid out very much like Preview, but supports 
>>> annotation, so there is a second sidebar for notes.  Because it uses the 
>>> same base as Preview, any limitations that you find when reading PDFs in 
>>> Preview will show up in Skim.  So, for example, bookmarks take you back to 
>>> the page you were reading but not to the exact spot in the page (unless you 
>>> set hotspots).  On the other hand, there are expanded features, such as 
>>> being able to organize your bookmarks into folders.
>>> 
>>> One situation where someone might clearly want to use Skim over Preview, is 
>>> if they were reviewing a PowerPoint or Keynote presentation that was 
>>> exported to PDF.  These don't play nicely with Preview, even using Full 
>>> Screen mode.  But Skim has an additional "Presentation mode" for viewing, 
>>> and you can easily display presentations in this mode, controlling page 
>>> transitions, etc.  So this is an easy and accessible way to give a 
>>> text-based presentation or to review notes from the text content of a 
>>> presentation.  
>>> 
>>> I originally started using Skim because it maintained more stable focus 
>>> behavior than Preview in operations like search and find.  When there are 
>>> really good Skim features eventually they get adopted and show up in later 
>>> versions of Preview.
>>> 
>>> By the way, since Skim is supported as an open source effort at Source 
>>> Forge and is freely available there and not through the Mac App Store, 
>>> there's a Skim rip-off being sold in the Mac App Store as "PDF Reader".  
>>> It's based on an old version of Skim, and I'm rather surprised that Apple 
>>> hasn't pulled this, since there's no support, and the distributor is just 
>>> profiting from the (old version) open source efforts of Skim.  Since a 
>>> number of Mac users follow Skim, and it's highly rated at various download 
>>> sites like MacUpdate, a few people bought the version in the App Store when 
>>> it showed up thinking that it was put out by the people who work on Skim.  
>>> It's not, and you'll just be paying for an unsupported, old version.
>>> 
>>> HTH.  Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 2012, at 11:28 PM, chris hallsworth wrote:
>>> 
 The subject says it all. What are the pros and cons please. Thanks!
 - Original Message - From: "Esther" 
 To: 
 Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 2:43 AM
 Subject: Re: merging several PDF files into one.
 
 
 Hi Chris,
 
 It's actually possible to merge PDF files with Preview if you can drag and 
 drop to the thumbnails in the sidebar, but I don't think this works with 
 VoiceOver drag and drop -- at the very least it would be difficult.  If 
 you have Skim downloaded there's an embedded SkimPDF command line tool 
 that lets you perform operations like merging and extracting PDF files in 
 Terminal.
 
 If you look under: /Applications/Skim.app/Contents/SharedSupport/  there 
 are three appl

Re: SSD external drive for Mac

[Maria Chapman]

Hi.  i am successfully using this software.

if the disks aren't being recognized, try plugging the drive in to a windows 
machine and checking for errors.

this drove me crazy until i searched the knowledge base.


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On 06/08/2012, at 9:40 PM, Garth Humphreys  wrote:

> Hi you could try the following software. I have no experience but it may 
> solve your problem
> 
> I will post some text copied from the website found at 
> http://www.paragon-software.com/home/ntfs-mac/
> NTFS for Mac® OS X 10
> The first solution to support OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion!
> Using a Mac® is a wonderful experience – until you try to use a 
> NTFS-formatted drive, which includes most Windows® hard drives! Because in 
> order to create, delete or modify any files on Windows NTFS drives you need 
> Paragon NTFS for Mac® - after minutes you won’t remember there ever was a 
> problem. Remove the barriers between NTFS and HFS+ with ease and confidence!
> The first solution to support OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion!
> $19.95
> 
> 
> On 06/08/2012, at 1:40 AM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
> 
>> Guys,
>> The reason I wanted SSD was because this ins a storage drive for the files 
>> of my latest studio CD.  Speed doesn't matter.  No moving parts should 
>> increase durability over the very long haul.  Drive is NTFS AND CAN't be 
>> changed, apparently, so must be exchanged at store.
>> Ideas?
>> Kevin
>> PS. Mac mini can't even see this drive.  Tried changing file system to FAT32 
>> on an XP box I have.  No joy.
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Re: copying album artwork file

[Traci]

Checking that box worked.  Thanks :)

As far as I can tell the album artwork is just like the album cover.  It shows 
up on my touch while playing.

Traci
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On Aug 1, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> If you look in your iTunes Preferences in the General pane, way down near the 
> bottom, there should be an option to "Automatically Download Missing 
> Artwork".  Make sure that box is checked and iTunes should just download the 
> Artwork again.  I'm not sure that copying it over would actually do the trick 
> as you would most likely mess up the database of Artwork in your main Library.
> 
> Later...
> .
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-08-01, at 10:46 PM, Traci  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> So, within the last year I tried having 2 iTunes libraries, 1 for regular 
>> music and 1 dedicated to holiday music.  Well, this isn't working for me 
>> anymore.  Lol!
>> 
>> I had no problem moving all my holiday music back into my main iTunes 
>> library, except for the album artwork.  I noticed this small file called 
>> album artwork under my holiday library, is there a way I can just copy that 
>> file on over to iTunes?
>> 
>> Any easy suggestion to get the album artwork back?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Traci
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Re: here's a tip regarding files appearing, and being notified

[Maria Chapman]

HI.  pressing command shift m on a folder doesn't give me a choice of folder 
actions.

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On 06/08/2012, at 7:14 PM, Paul Erkens  wrote:

>> Dear listers,
>> 
>> A regular problem brought up on the list is how you can see that a file is 
>> indeed downloading or downloaded, from safari. If you look at this question 
>> more generally, then it suddenly has a whole lot more meaning, a solution 
>> and many uses.
>> 
>> Each time a new file comes in to my downloads folder, I immediately now get 
>> a dialog about it. Here's how it can be done.
>> 
>> I now have a folder action set up. A folder action is sort of a watch dog, 
>> that keeps an eye on the folder on which you set it up. Folder actions are 
>> part of os10. It's very easy, and practically what this means is, that you 
>> can get a dialog telling you, that, in this or that folder, a new file just 
>> appeared. For safari, to know that a download has indeed begun, this is 
>> useful. But also if you share your mac with family over your private home 
>> network, it's nice to know when someone adds a file to your incoming 
>> downloads folder. It's up to you to decide where you can use this, but it 
>> has proven to be very handy so I thought I'd share it here.
>> 
>> On the name of the folder you want to watch, go into the vo context menu, vo 
>> shift m, and choose folder actions. You will find your way round from there. 
>> You simply select the name of an action to carry out on the folder, and if 
>> you choose the add item alert, then from then on, each time a new file 
>> appears inside downloads, or where ever you have it, a dialog pops up, 
>> telling you there's a new file, and asking whether or not to go there. If 
>> you say yes, finder opens right inside that folder. 
>> 
>> I got this idea from a podcast called mac power users. It's worth listening 
>> to. Lots of tricks. It is not a podcast by the blind for the blind, but it 
>> really does open up your world to new software, work flows to get things 
>> done, and a lot of useful info. The folks behind the podcasts really are 
>> power users, and one can learn a lot from them. Best thing is that all 
>> episodes are still available, which is wonderful if you happen to like how 
>> they do their podcast.
>> 
>> Paul.
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Re: connectinng to my Ethernet port on my router

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

The latest iMacs still have ethernet ports so adapters are unnecessary.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-08-07, at 1:19 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

> You can get an usb to ethernet adaptor for macbook air.
> On 7 Aug 2012, at 02:44, Alex Hall wrote:
> 
>> Well, that's something you may want to research. The ones I've seen have 
>> them, but I can't promise they are the latest generation. I know the Macbook 
>> Airs have no ethernet, but I thought the minis, iMacs, and macbook pros did. 
>> Still, you should look into the model you plan to get to be sure.
>> On Aug 6, 2012, at 9:32 PM, agent086b  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks, I was under the impression that an iMac did not come with an 
>>> Ethernet card in it.
>>> Max.
>>>  Original Message 
>>> Subject: Re: connectinng to my Ethernet port on my router
>>> From: Alex Hall 
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 21:25:11 -0400
 You connect the ethernet cable to one of the ports on the router (if you 
 also have a modem, make sure the chord is not going into the port set 
 aside for the modem) and the other end into the iMac. I've not tried it 
 personally, but the mac should then automatically find the connection and 
 start using it, prompting for a password if you have one set but otherwise 
 operating normally.
 On Aug 6, 2012, at 9:11 PM, agent086b  wrote:
 
> Hi,
> how do I connect an iMac to an Ethernet port on my router? I don't wish 
> to connect to the router wirelessly as I like the   quicker 
> speeds via an Ethernet connection.
> 
> Thanks for any advice.
> Max.
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Re: After installing ML my mailboxes are MIA

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

In order for the Contextual menu to be populated with such Mailboxes, the 
parent box needs to be expanded in the Mailboxes list.  That is, when you 
navigate down the list of boxes in the Mailboxes list, after the Trash and Junk 
items, VO should read the title of your various Inboxes again.  This is the 
parent folder for all sub-folders attached to the given mailbox.  Expand that 
folder and all mailboxes will be visible in both the Mailboxes list and in the 
Contextual menus.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-08-07, at 12:47 AM, Johnny Angel!  wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> After installing ML, I have discovered that when I went to move a post into a 
> previously set up mailbox, all of my mailboxes are missing. Here's what I 
> have done in the past:
> 
> after reading a post that I feel I need to save, I would close the message 
> and press VO + Shift + "M" t bring up the context menu with all of my 
> mailboxes listed.  Ten I would go to "Move To" option in that list and hit 
> return or right arrow  to open the list. Then I would go to the mailbox I 
> wish to save the said post into and hit return on that mailbox, and walla! 
> The post is moved.  however I cannot see my mailboxes in this list anymore.  
> If I stop interacting with the messages table and VO+left arrow over to the 
> mailboxes menu, listed there are all of the mailboxes I have created.
> 
> How do I repopulate the context menu to show my mailboxes once again?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Johnny
> 
> 
> Not of this world,
> I am born of The forty-second generation
> A new, powerful race, never seen before.
> 
> Wish to join?
> 
> Initiation is completely FREE!
> 
> NOTE: Limited time sensitive offer.
> 
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> 
> 
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Re: here's a tip regarding files appearing, and being notified

[Alex Hall]

It's vo-shift-m to bring up the context menu, then you can select folder 
actions from the list.
On Aug 7, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Maria Chapman  wrote:

> HI.  pressing command shift m on a folder doesn't give me a choice of folder 
> actions.
> 
> thanks
> 
> Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 06/08/2012, at 7:14 PM, Paul Erkens  wrote:
> 
>>> Dear listers,
>>> 
>>> A regular problem brought up on the list is how you can see that a file is 
>>> indeed downloading or downloaded, from safari. If you look at this question 
>>> more generally, then it suddenly has a whole lot more meaning, a solution 
>>> and many uses.
>>> 
>>> Each time a new file comes in to my downloads folder, I immediately now get 
>>> a dialog about it. Here's how it can be done.
>>> 
>>> I now have a folder action set up. A folder action is sort of a watch dog, 
>>> that keeps an eye on the folder on which you set it up. Folder actions are 
>>> part of os10. It's very easy, and practically what this means is, that you 
>>> can get a dialog telling you, that, in this or that folder, a new file just 
>>> appeared. For safari, to know that a download has indeed begun, this is 
>>> useful. But also if you share your mac with family over your private home 
>>> network, it's nice to know when someone adds a file to your incoming 
>>> downloads folder. It's up to you to decide where you can use this, but it 
>>> has proven to be very handy so I thought I'd share it here.
>>> 
>>> On the name of the folder you want to watch, go into the vo context menu, 
>>> vo shift m, and choose folder actions. You will find your way round from 
>>> there. You simply select the name of an action to carry out on the folder, 
>>> and if you choose the add item alert, then from then on, each time a new 
>>> file appears inside downloads, or where ever you have it, a dialog pops up, 
>>> telling you there's a new file, and asking whether or not to go there. If 
>>> you say yes, finder opens right inside that folder. 
>>> 
>>> I got this idea from a podcast called mac power users. It's worth listening 
>>> to. Lots of tricks. It is not a podcast by the blind for the blind, but it 
>>> really does open up your world to new software, work flows to get things 
>>> done, and a lot of useful info. The folks behind the podcasts really are 
>>> power users, and one can learn a lot from them. Best thing is that all 
>>> episodes are still available, which is wonderful if you happen to like how 
>>> they do their podcast.
>>> 
>>> Paul.
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Mac and online banking

[Chris (gmail)]

I am with Lloyds TSB and use their internet banking service to manage my 
banking online. How well does this work with Safari or any other 
browsers for the mac? Thanks!


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Re: finder frustrations

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

To make column View your Default, open a window in the finder (like Macintosh 
HD), press cmd-3 to make sure you're in column View, press cmd-j to bring up 
the View options and check the box to always open in Column View.

Another way to attack this is to set your Finder to always open folders in a 
new window.  go to the Desktop, press cmd-comma to bring up the Finder 
Preferences and check the box to have the Finder always open folders in a new 
window.  Years ago this used to be the default but it was changed a couple of 
cats ago.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2012-08-07, at 8:18 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> I just did a quick test. In column view (cmd-3), you can still right arrow on 
> a folder to open it, and left arrow to close it, but typing letters searches 
> that folder first, which list view seems not to do. Also, you have to left 
> arrow a few times to close in list view, but column view you only need to do 
> it once. I almost never care about additional file info, and if I need it I 
> have cmd-i, so I think column view will be my default from now on as it seems 
> to work better. That said, how do I set it to be my default, or will it 
> remember my preference once I hit cmd-3?
> On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:13 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I prefer the column view myself.  List view talks too much for me.  Most of 
>> the time, I don't need to know the date the file or folder was created.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks all. Yes, I use right arrow to open, but I'll try cmd-o (or 
>>> cmd-down, as I think it does the same thing) from now on and see if that 
>>> makes a difference. I'll also play with the different views to see if one 
>>> works better.
>>> On Aug 7, 2012, at 5:24 AM, William Windels  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hello, Alex and others,
 I simply use column view as my default view.
 With that view, I press (vo)right arrow to open a folder and (vo)left to 
 close.
 When I open/close folders on that way, only the contents of that folder is 
 available.
 Whhen I want more details of a file/folder, , I switch to the list view 
 with command+2 and back to column view with command+3.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 kind regards,
 William Windels 
 
 Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
 
 Op 7-aug.-2012 om 09:20 heeft "Red.Falcon" 
  het volgende geschreven:
 
> Hi Alex!
> I suppose you are using arrows to open the folders!
> OK when you get to that folder instead of using arrow open with Command+O
> and you should have only that folder open and not end up somewhere else!
> hth 
> Colin
> 
> On 7 Aug 2012, at 02:05, Alex Hall wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I was looking through my large media collection to find the songs I have 
>> to practice for Wednesday. I opened the folder they are in and typed the 
>> first couple characters, but was taken to the matching song in a folder 
>> a level up from where I was, which was, of course, the wrong song 
>> entirely. I find this happens a lot: I'm in a folder, but navigating by 
>> letter brings me to the parent folder instead of staying inside the 
>> folder in which I want to be. I don't know why this happens, and maybe 
>> there's a setting I can change to stop it, but it is very frustrating. I 
>> prefer the windows way of displaying each folder's content in it's own 
>> view, so you are in that folder and not jumping around a massive table, 
>> never sure just which folder you are really in. Might there be something 
>> I can do to open things in their own views, navigating back with 
>> cmd-leftBracket or a similar keystroke? I hate to bring up Windows, but 
>> I do find Explorer's layout a lot easier to manage than how finder does 
>> things. Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
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Problem with dictation

[joseph]

Hello list
When I press fn key twice dictation fails although the shortcut is assigned to 
use fn key twice.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Questions

[Chris (gmail)]

That's what I thought as surely Bootcamp creates the necessary stuff so 
that Windows can be installed and booted.


On 07/08/2012 13:57, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Boot from a windows install disk?  I would assume you would need to use Boot 
Camp first to install windows on your Mac.

Ricardo Walker
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On Aug 7, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Gavin Grundlingh  wrote:


Hi all,

Long time no speak. I have a couple of questions regarding YoruFukurou and 
booting from an external DVD drive.

1. Are there any shortcuts to follow or unfollow users in YoruFukurou? Unless 
I'm thinking of a different application, I should be able to use 
Command-Option-O to follow and Command-Option-U to unfollow, but those don't 
seem to do anything. Also, is there a way to follow or unfollow a user by 
entering a user ID?

2. I have an external USB DVD drive. It's an LG HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-E10L. I 
wanted to boot from a Windows install disk, but I keep getting a black screen 
with a flashing cursor. I have tried disks for Windows XP Professional, Windows 
Vista Ultimate and Windows 7 Ultimate, and the same happens with each of them. 
Is the Mac unable to boot from certain drives? I've used this DVD drive on 
other computers and it works just fine. I can't use my Mac's internal drive 
because it keeps ejecting disks, so I can't verify that the DVD's I'm trying to 
use will work natively. I'm including the details from System Information below 
incase it'll be of any help:

HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-E10L:

  Firmware Revision:LE05
  Interconnect: USB
  Burn Support: Yes (Generic Drive Support)
  Profile Path: None
  Cache:2048 KB
  Reads DVD:Yes
  CD-Write: -R, -RW
  DVD-Write:-R, -R DL, -RAM, -RW, +R, +R DL, +RW
  Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO
  Media:To show the available burn speeds, insert a disc and choose File 
> Refresh Information

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

Regards,

Gavin Grundlingh
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Secondary Phone: +27 (0) 79 157-2466
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Re: Problem with dictation

[Ray Foret Jr]

I too am noticing a weird behavior issue.  I know as a fact that my Blue Yeti 
microphone is selected, and, dictation is set to on; yet, sometimes, and in 
fact right now, it's just not taking.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

On Aug 7, 2012, at 10:16 AM, joseph  wrote:

> Hello list
> When I press fn key twice dictation fails although the shortcut is assigned 
> to use fn key twice.
> Any help would be appreciated.
> Best
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RE: Problem with dictation

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Ray. I don't think it's on your end. Dictation isn't working on
IPhones either. It's probably a problem on Apple's end and I'm sure they are
aware of it.

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 10:35 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem with dictation

 

I too am noticing a weird behavior issue.  I know as a fact that my Blue
Yeti microphone is selected, and, dictation is set to on; yet, sometimes,
and in fact right now, it's just not taking.

 

 

Sincerely,

The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

 

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

 

Skype name:

barefootedray

 

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Hello list
When I press fn key twice dictation fails although the shortcut is assigned
to use fn key twice.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: messages app for chatting with Facebook friends?

[Brandon Olivares]

You can do it with Messages.

Add an account and select Jabber as the type.

Make sure you know your usernae from Facebook. Not your e-mail address, but the 
username you probably selected at some point. For instance, if I go to 
www.facebook.com/Brandon.Olivares, my profile will come up, so my username is 
Brandon.Olivares.

After you find that username, enter usern...@chat.facebook.com in the username 
field of the account settings, replacing username with your Facebook username. 
Enter your password into the password field.

Now you should be set.

Brandon
On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:18 AM, Angie Giltinan  wrote:

> Hi all, I thought I read a post where someone said we could use the messages 
> app to do facebook chat, Is this the case, and if so, how could this be 
> accomplished.  If not, is there an app to do that on the mac?
> Thanks!
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Re: Problem with dictation

[joseph]

It is working on my iPhone. It is working on my Mac only in the edit menu.
Best


Sent from my iPhone

On 7 Aug 2012, at 04:38 PM, "Paul Hunt"  wrote:

> Hello Ray. I don’t think it’s on your end. Dictation isn’t working on IPhones 
> either. It’s probably a problem on Apple’s end and I’m sure they are aware of 
> it.
>  
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 10:35 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Problem with dictation
>  
> I too am noticing a weird behavior issue.  I know as a fact that my Blue Yeti 
> microphone is selected, and, dictation is set to on; yet, sometimes, and in 
> fact right now, it's just not taking.
>  
>  
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>  
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>  
> Skype name:
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>  
> On Aug 7, 2012, at 10:16 AM, joseph  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello list
> When I press fn key twice dictation fails although the shortcut is assigned 
> to use fn key twice.
> Any help would be appreciated.
> Best
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Re: ML Safari and tables

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

have you tried navigating to these elements with VO command J?

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On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav  
wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Since installing ML and the latest Safari build, my business internet banking 
> has failed to work correctly.
> 
> I'm not sure if this is the bank and the way its site is built, or the new 
> latest Safari build.
> 
> Basically, in SL and Lion, I used to be able to configure payments by setting 
> the date etc, then tab through a table of payees and select the ones I wish 
> to pay.
> 
> 
> Now the tab key jumps the entire list of check boxes and leaps to the end 
> continue button. I can do nothing to work with that table.
> 
> If I use the item chooser etc that finds the items, but, pressing return on 
> the item leaps right to the continue button.
> 
> Using the VO right arrow from the date area also jumps the hole lot.
> 
> Any thoughts, has anyone else experienced this with HSBC banking online, or, 
> any other site that did work OK with SL and Lion, but not ML.
> 
> thanks for any thoughts and ideas.
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Re: connectinng to my Ethernet port on my router

[Ricardo Walker]

Right.

As of now, all Macs have ethernet ports except the macbook air, and the new 15 
inch macbook pro.

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On Aug 7, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> The latest iMacs still have ethernet ports so adapters are unnecessary.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-08-07, at 1:19 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
>> You can get an usb to ethernet adaptor for macbook air.
>> On 7 Aug 2012, at 02:44, Alex Hall wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, that's something you may want to research. The ones I've seen have 
>>> them, but I can't promise they are the latest generation. I know the 
>>> Macbook Airs have no ethernet, but I thought the minis, iMacs, and macbook 
>>> pros did. Still, you should look into the model you plan to get to be sure.
>>> On Aug 6, 2012, at 9:32 PM, agent086b  wrote:
>>> 
 Thanks, I was under the impression that an iMac did not come with an 
 Ethernet card in it.
 Max.
  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: connectinng to my Ethernet port on my router
 From: Alex Hall 
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 21:25:11 -0400
> You connect the ethernet cable to one of the ports on the router (if you 
> also have a modem, make sure the chord is not going into the port set 
> aside for the modem) and the other end into the iMac. I've not tried it 
> personally, but the mac should then automatically find the connection and 
> start using it, prompting for a password if you have one set but 
> otherwise operating normally.
> On Aug 6, 2012, at 9:11 PM, agent086b  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> how do I connect an iMac to an Ethernet port on my router? I don't wish 
>> to connect to the router wirelessly as I like the quicker speeds via an 
>> Ethernet connection.
>> 
>> Thanks for any advice.
>> Max.
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Re: Problem with dictation

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

I had issues with using the FN key on a UniComp Model-M clone external 
keyboard, so I changed the shortcut key to Right Command key twice, and 
dictation now works eerily well for me.


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RE: ML Safari and tables

[wayne coles]

Hello i use fast balance on my iphone 4 and have no trouble useing
it with vo so give it a try it is very good

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: 07 August 2012 15:08
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ML Safari and tables

Hi Neil.

Occasionally I use HSBC Internet Banking (However not tried it in ML) yet.
When doing it with Lion, when getting to the tables for interactions or if
to transfer money or to pay a payee, I'd do vo down arrow to go down rather
than across as at times that worked.  I've not had too much luck with HSBC
internet banking but haven't tried it in ML yet.  The website works better
under Jaws as they designed it with jaws in mind.  Mind you I tried Fast
Balance (an application for the I phone) as it's separate to Business
Banking and when I spoke to the Internet Team about this they said they were
working on a fix as it was not accessible yet with Voice Over but they would
not give me a date to when it would be fixed.

Kawal.

On 7 Aug 2012, at 02:25 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav 
wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Since installing ML and the latest Safari build, my business internet
banking has failed to work correctly.
> 
> I'm not sure if this is the bank and the way its site is built, or the new
latest Safari build.
> 
> Basically, in SL and Lion, I used to be able to configure payments by
setting the date etc, then tab through a table of payees and select the ones
I wish to pay.
> 
> 
> Now the tab key jumps the entire list of check boxes and leaps to the end
continue button. I can do nothing to work with that table.
> 
> If I use the item chooser etc that finds the items, but, pressing return
on the item leaps right to the continue button.
> 
> Using the VO right arrow from the date area also jumps the hole lot.
> 
> Any thoughts, has anyone else experienced this with HSBC banking online,
or, any other site that did work OK with SL and Lion, but not ML.
> 
> thanks for any thoughts and ideas.
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RE: ML Safari and tables

[Bill Holton]

Isn't there an option in the keyboard command that tells Safari to advance
one element with each tab press?  Perhaps this has gotten unset?



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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 12:11 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ML Safari and tables

Hi,

have you tried navigating to these elements with VO command J?

Ricardo Walker
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On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav 
wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Since installing ML and the latest Safari build, my business internet
banking has failed to work correctly.
> 
> I'm not sure if this is the bank and the way its site is built, or the new
latest Safari build.
> 
> Basically, in SL and Lion, I used to be able to configure payments by
setting the date etc, then tab through a table of payees and select the ones
I wish to pay.
> 
> 
> Now the tab key jumps the entire list of check boxes and leaps to the end
continue button. I can do nothing to work with that table.
> 
> If I use the item chooser etc that finds the items, but, pressing return
on the item leaps right to the continue button.
> 
> Using the VO right arrow from the date area also jumps the hole lot.
> 
> Any thoughts, has anyone else experienced this with HSBC banking online,
or, any other site that did work OK with SL and Lion, but not ML.
> 
> thanks for any thoughts and ideas.
> 
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Re: Mac and online banking

[Mike Arrigo]

Each bank site works differently, but the banking site I use works 
great with safari and chrome.

Original message:

I am with Lloyds TSB and use their internet banking service to manage my
banking online. How well does this work with Safari or any other
browsers for the mac? Thanks!



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Dropbox no longer shows dropbox sub menu

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hello.
I was going to make a new folder in my dropbox folder and share it with a 
friend, however, i can no longer see the dropbox sub menu with the different 
menu choises for sharing a folder and the like, how can i get this sub menu 
back? This dropbox has been with me since Snowie i think and it was after 
upgrading to mountain lion that it has begun not to show the sub menu. What if 
anything can i do?
/Krister

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Re: dictation help

[Krysti .Power]

What programs does dictaion work with meaning word processing programs
On 2012-08-04 8:15 PM, "Mark BurningHawk Baxter" 
wrote:

> Caitlyn:
> I am not much into bossing people around, unless they're utter morons and
> I have no choice, so in your case, no bossing will be necessary.  To set up
> Dictation, Go to the menu bar with VO M, then down arrow in the Apple menu
> to System preferences.  Enter there or VO Space.  Interact with the
> preference pane when it comes up, and press D I or VO right until you land
> on Dictation and Speech.  Vo Shift space there to open it.  Select the
> Dictation Tab, and the first thing is an "on radio button," which turns
> Dictation on.  After that, you just set up the rest of the configuration,
> find an edit box and tap your shortcut key twice, and off you go!
> Let me know if you need more help with it; I'm around and can walk you
> through on Skype or by call or whatever if you want.
>
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Re: dictation help

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

I believe that, as long as you have a text box for the results to be plugged 
into, it works.  I've used it in Mail, TextEdit, Skype and Messages.  I don't 
see why you couldn't use it anywhere there's an edit box.


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Re: dictation help

[Krysti .Power]

Ok thanks ill try it with office for mac do the built in mic's work or do I
need a external
On 2012-08-07 3:58 PM, "Mark BurningHawk Baxter" 
wrote:

> I believe that, as long as you have a text box for the results to be
> plugged into, it works.  I've used it in Mail, TextEdit, Skype and
> Messages.  I don't see why you couldn't use it anywhere there's an edit box.
>
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Re: dictation help

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

It should, and you can use the mic in your Macbook Air or whatever, or an 
external; just change the setting in Dictation preferences.


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Re: dictation help

[Krysti .Power]

I got a early 2011 macbook pro thanks for the help
On 2012-08-07 4:06 PM, "Mark BurningHawk Baxter" 
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> It should, and you can use the mic in your Macbook Air or whatever, or an
> external; just change the setting in Dictation preferences.
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Re: Dropbox no longer shows dropbox sub menu

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Make sure you have latest dropbox app. Go to db site and download it and place 
it in app folder. Open it and it should all work fine.

hth,

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On Aug 7, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:

> Hello.
> I was going to make a new folder in my dropbox folder and share it with a 
> friend, however, i can no longer see the dropbox sub menu with the different 
> menu choises for sharing a folder and the like, how can i get this sub menu 
> back? This dropbox has been with me since Snowie i think and it was after 
> upgrading to mountain lion that it has begun not to show the sub menu. What 
> if anything can i do?
> /Krister
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help needed with hardware test on most recent macbook air (2012)

[William Windels]

Hello,
I don't know if this is asked before but how can I do a hardwaretest on my 
macbook air?
I taught it was command+d after you reboot the system and you hear the 
startsound of the mac.
(on the same time you do command+r for recovery mode).
When I do this, my macbook air seems to boot normally.
I suppose voiceover is available in the hardwaretest module?
If not, can we do the test our self by pressing some hotkeys and view the 
results after rebooting in a kind of log file?

Thx a lot for your suggestions

William Windels

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Re: another scanning products question

[erik burggraaf]

Eyepal is a camera on a monopod.  It stands about 10 in tall. There are two 
arms at the bottom.  One is 8.5 IN.  The other is 11 in.  These are the 
measurements of standard A4 paper.  Set up on a desk it looks not half bad.  
Folded up it looks like something some amateur knocked together out of old pipe.

It plugs in USB to the computer..

It's accurate and fast.  Unfortunately the software is windows based running in 
x-windows.  As such, it leaves quite a lot to be desired at this point.

Still, for speed, accuracy, and convenience, no other mac solution comes close 
right now.  Then again, the nearest competitor is only about a quarter the 
price of the eyepal.  Well, maybe half if you buy the hovercam and docuscan.  
Still, half price or better is enough, especially for advanced users who don't 
mind tweaking, to ignore or workaround the shortcomings of the less expensive 
products.

Best,

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On 2012-08-07, at 10:06 AM, Maria Chapman wrote:

> Hi.  can you describe ipal.  is it a camera that connects to the mac?
> 
> 
> Maria Chapman
> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
> 
> "The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong." - 
> Mahatma Gandhi
> 
> On 07/08/2012, at 1:41 AM, Kaare Dehard  wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks. To add to these products, I heard somewhere that Eyepal was 
>> available for the mac. This was some time ago and I had also heard that they 
>> were working on improvements as it was rudimentary. 
>> Does anyone know how eye pal is now with the mac, have the improvements been 
>> made?On 2012-08-06, at 11:35 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Anne.
>>> How do you preform OCR with Vuscan?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Matthew Campbell.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2012-08-05, at 1:11 PM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Chenelle,
 
 VueScan costs $39.95 for a one-year license, or $79.95 for a lifetime 
 license. It supports the vast majority of scanners and produces excellent 
 images. It can also do OCR but isn't as good as ABBYY FineReader for this. 
 I think that FineReader costs around $80 dollars but can't say for sure as 
 I'm in the euro zone not the US.
 
 You have to buy VueScan direct from the developer, at
 
 
 So, the combination of VueScan and ABBYY FineReader is cheaper than 
 DocuScan but takes more setting up.
 
 I put together a little user guide for VueScan with ABBYY FineReader, so 
 if you choose to go that route, let me know and I'll send it to you.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 
 On 5 Aug 2012, at 15:27, Chenelle Hancock wrote:
 
> Hi  anne,
> 
> thanks so much for the  advice i really do appreciate it.  however, do 
> abby find reader or doc you scan cost anything and how much  would they 
> both be to purchase  if i had to get either one or the other?.
> thanks so much again for your help.
> sincerely, chenelle
 
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Re: help needed with hardware test on most recent macbook air (2012)

[Chris (gmail)]

Is this not part of the recovery mode?

On 07/08/2012 20:27, William Windels wrote:

Hello,
I don't know if this is asked before but how can I do a hardwaretest on my 
macbook air?
I taught it was command+d after you reboot the system and you hear the 
startsound of the mac.
(on the same time you do command+r for recovery mode).
When I do this, my macbook air seems to boot normally.
I suppose voiceover is available in the hardwaretest module?
If not, can we do the test our self by pressing some hotkeys and view the 
results after rebooting in a kind of log file?

Thx a lot for your suggestions

William Windels



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Re: Doesn't Anyone else use Web Spots in Safari?

[Brian Fischler]

Hey Art, No you are not losing it. HA This reverse web spot and
scrolling completely shocked me, glad I am not the only one, and the
Apple realizes it is an issue. I assume it should be something easy to
fix in the next patch as I can't get use to hit right to go left.

On Aug 5, 11:21 pm, arthur gindin  wrote:
> Brian, I monitor macvisionaries for my blind almost-12 year old
> grandchild.  Unfortunately she is more interested in anime than
> practicing typing.
>
> I noticed with ML that the scroll wheel on my trackball was going in the
> "wrong" direction.  At my ancient age i assumed i had just forgotten how
> it worked before.  Thanks for letting me know my memory hasn't gone
> completely.
>
> art
>
> On 8/5/12 11:10 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hey guys, just wanted to give you an update as I did report this
> > misnavigation or reverse navigation to Apple, and they didn't know
> > about it and will be working on it. I to do not make enough use of my
> > trackpad just so comfortable with the keyboard for everything.
>
> > On Aug 1, 11:30 am, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> >> Hey all,
>
> >> I posted once about this but got no response, so wanted to try again.
> >> I make use of setting webspots and sweet spots on the pages I go to a
> >> lot, as I find this makes navigating a page much faster. Anyway, all
> >> of my webspots have been reversed in mountain lion. what I mean is to
> >> scroll down from the top to the bottom of the page in previous
> >> versions I would hit VO Command right bracket to go to the next web
> >> spot to the right, and VO command left bracket to go to the next web
> >> spot to the left. Simple. In Mountain it is completely reverse which
> >> is one of the most annoying thing as when I click VO command righ
> >> bracket it takes me to the next web spot to the left and VO command
> >> left bracket to the next web spot to the right. This makes no sense
> >> what so ever, and I am wondering if it is a setting that I have set
> >> incorrectly for navigating a page. I tried turning scrolling from
> >> normal to not clicking normal and this did nothing. This setting was
> >> under the Track pad. I don't even have a mouse connected, so maybe the
> >> setting is in that menu, as I can't even access the mouse menu since
> >> my system doesn't detect a mouse. Has anyone else experienced this? I
> >> am so used to where all of my web spots are set this is so
> >> frustrating. I even tried removing my web spots on a page and
> >> resetting them, but this didn't change the directions. It would make
> >> sense you click right and you go right you click left and you go left,
> >> but not in Mountain Lion. Would appreciate any help. Thanks

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Re: Doesn't Anyone else use Web Spots in Safari?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

The scrolling is not a bug though.  Thats how they intend scrolling to be.  Its 
like the scolling in IOS.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
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On Aug 7, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey Art, No you are not losing it. HA This reverse web spot and
> scrolling completely shocked me, glad I am not the only one, and the
> Apple realizes it is an issue. I assume it should be something easy to
> fix in the next patch as I can't get use to hit right to go left.
> 
> On Aug 5, 11:21 pm, arthur gindin  wrote:
>> Brian, I monitor macvisionaries for my blind almost-12 year old
>> grandchild.  Unfortunately she is more interested in anime than
>> practicing typing.
>> 
>> I noticed with ML that the scroll wheel on my trackball was going in the
>> "wrong" direction.  At my ancient age i assumed i had just forgotten how
>> it worked before.  Thanks for letting me know my memory hasn't gone
>> completely.
>> 
>> art
>> 
>> On 8/5/12 11:10 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Hey guys, just wanted to give you an update as I did report this
>>> misnavigation or reverse navigation to Apple, and they didn't know
>>> about it and will be working on it. I to do not make enough use of my
>>> trackpad just so comfortable with the keyboard for everything.
>> 
>>> On Aug 1, 11:30 am, Brian Fischler  wrote:
 Hey all,
>> 
 I posted once about this but got no response, so wanted to try again.
 I make use of setting webspots and sweet spots on the pages I go to a
 lot, as I find this makes navigating a page much faster. Anyway, all
 of my webspots have been reversed in mountain lion. what I mean is to
 scroll down from the top to the bottom of the page in previous
 versions I would hit VO Command right bracket to go to the next web
 spot to the right, and VO command left bracket to go to the next web
 spot to the left. Simple. In Mountain it is completely reverse which
 is one of the most annoying thing as when I click VO command righ
 bracket it takes me to the next web spot to the left and VO command
 left bracket to the next web spot to the right. This makes no sense
 what so ever, and I am wondering if it is a setting that I have set
 incorrectly for navigating a page. I tried turning scrolling from
 normal to not clicking normal and this did nothing. This setting was
 under the Track pad. I don't even have a mouse connected, so maybe the
 setting is in that menu, as I can't even access the mouse menu since
 my system doesn't detect a mouse. Has anyone else experienced this? I
 am so used to where all of my web spots are set this is so
 frustrating. I even tried removing my web spots on a page and
 resetting them, but this didn't change the directions. It would make
 sense you click right and you go right you click left and you go left,
 but not in Mountain Lion. Would appreciate any help. Thanks
> 
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yamaha mm6 and garageband

[keith]

is there something like instrument definitions for garageband to enable me to 
access the midi sounds from the mm6 keyboard so i can create songs in 
garageband? I know that in windows I use cakewalk sonar and for the most part I 
can download instrument definitions for all of my keyboards and be able to 
control the keyboard within cakewalk. i'm running Lion on my macbook.  
proberbs 10:22 ¶The blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no 
sorrow with it.

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Re: yamaha mm6 and garageband

[Ricardo Walker]

nope.  Keep in mind, Garageband is Apples consumer music creating app.  You'd 
have to bump up to logic Pro to do that.

Ricardo Walker
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On Aug 7, 2012, at 5:03 PM, "keith"  wrote:

> is there something like instrument definitions for garageband to enable me to 
> access the midi sounds from the mm6 keyboard so i can create songs in 
> garageband? I know that in windows I use cakewalk sonar and for the most part 
> I can download instrument definitions for all of my keyboards and be able to 
> control the keyboard within cakewalk. i'm running Lion on my macbook.  
> proberbs 10:22 ¶The blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no 
> sorrow with it.
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Re: yamaha mm6 and garageband

[keith]

oh ok thanks.
proberbs 10:22 貿he blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no 
sorrow with it.


- Original Message - 
From: "Ricardo Walker" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: yamaha mm6 and garageband


nope.  Keep in mind, Garageband is Apples consumer music creating app. 
You'd have to bump up to logic Pro to do that.


Ricardo Walker
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On Aug 7, 2012, at 5:03 PM, "keith"  wrote:

is there something like instrument definitions for garageband to enable me 
to access the midi sounds from the mm6 keyboard so i can create songs in 
garageband? I know that in windows I use cakewalk sonar and for the most 
part I can download instrument definitions for all of my keyboards and be 
able to control the keyboard within cakewalk. i'm running Lion on my 
macbook.
proberbs 10:22 貿he blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no 
sorrow with it.


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Re: yamaha mm6 and garageband

[keith]

by any chance would you and could you tell me how to setup using that 
program? Just asking.
proberbs 10:22 貿he blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no 
sorrow with it.


- Original Message - 
From: "Ricardo Walker" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: yamaha mm6 and garageband


nope.  Keep in mind, Garageband is Apples consumer music creating app. 
You'd have to bump up to logic Pro to do that.


Ricardo Walker
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On Aug 7, 2012, at 5:03 PM, "keith"  wrote:

is there something like instrument definitions for garageband to enable me 
to access the midi sounds from the mm6 keyboard so i can create songs in 
garageband? I know that in windows I use cakewalk sonar and for the most 
part I can download instrument definitions for all of my keyboards and be 
able to control the keyboard within cakewalk. i'm running Lion on my 
macbook.
proberbs 10:22 貿he blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no 
sorrow with it.


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Re: yamaha mm6 and garageband

[keith]

also, is logic Pro pritty accessable as far as with VoiceOver?
proberbs 10:22 貿he blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no 
sorrow with it.


- Original Message - 
From: "Ricardo Walker" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: yamaha mm6 and garageband


nope.  Keep in mind, Garageband is Apples consumer music creating app. 
You'd have to bump up to logic Pro to do that.


Ricardo Walker
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On Aug 7, 2012, at 5:03 PM, "keith"  wrote:

is there something like instrument definitions for garageband to enable me 
to access the midi sounds from the mm6 keyboard so i can create songs in 
garageband? I know that in windows I use cakewalk sonar and for the most 
part I can download instrument definitions for all of my keyboards and be 
able to control the keyboard within cakewalk. i'm running Lion on my 
macbook.
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Re: Problem with Safari and Interacting with Pages in Mountain Lion

[Brian Fischler]

Hey ann and Tim,

All of my settings were properly set, I have reported the issue to
Apple, and they have responded as they were able to recreate the issue
so I guess it will go on to the list of things theu will hopefully be
fixing. I was not able to fix the problem by restarting, but I did
toggle Voiceover off and then on with Command F5 and now everything is
working fine. Just wanted to post this in case someone else has the
issue and hopefully if this happens again toggling off and on will
fix. amazing how much nicer it is to browse without first having to
interact with the page.

On Aug 6, 10:52 am, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> This is something that just started happening over the weekend, it has
> happened to me before and it is quite frustrating as when I am using
> safari any time I open a new tab I must first hit VO shift down to
> start interacting with tab instead of automatically being taken in to
> the new tab. Not sure why this is happening as it was working properly
> when I first installed Mountain Lion. Additionally, anytime I click on
> an in page link to go to another page on a web site again it takes me
> to the toolbar where I first have to VO shift down arrow to interact
> with the conent. It really is pointless and slows everything down to
> first have to interact with a page instead of automatically being
> taken in to the content. Not sure why this happens as it was working
> fine until it changed on Friday, I have checked all of my VO and
> browser settings and everything is checked to automatically interact
> with the new tab. Is anyone else having this problem, and did it just
> occur suddenly? I am sure thia has to be a glitch, and it is very
> annoying

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Re: working with messages app in 10.8

[Dan Roy]

Well, apparently, it's working that way for you, but, it's not working that way 
for me.  My apple ID is the only account set up on the messages app, but, 
anyone who replies to a message from the message app doesn't go to my iPhone, 
not ever!


On Aug 6, 2012, at 7:33 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> a message sent to your Apple ID or, whatever e-mail you designated for 
> iMessage will be displayed on all your IOS devices as well as messages on 
> your Mac.  Thats pretty much it.  There is really nothing more to it.
> 
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> 
> On Aug 6, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Dan Roy  wrote:
> 
>> Ok, what I would find quite useful is for people who are responding to a 
>> message I sent from Messenger for those responses to also show up on my 
>> iPhone.
>> 
>> I understand the concept of using my apple ID, but, how would that help for 
>> people who are responding.
>> 
>> I called Apple and even they didn't seem to know, quite odd!
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 6, 2012, at 2:00 PM, "Kliphton"  wrote:
>> 
>>> This is where it gets tricky and apple doesn't tell you.  The only way for
>>> it to continue on your phone or iPad or iPad, is using your iCloud user name
>>> for everything.  That includes, facetime, iMessage, and iCloud of course.
>>> When you do this, it will show up on all your devices.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
>>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 12:52 PM
>>> To: MacVisionaries
>>> Subject: Re: working with messages app in 10.8
>>> 
>>> Hey Alex, I to found it difficult to use at first, not sure if this could
>>> solve your problem, as I have multiple accounts example gmail, cell phone,
>>> Apple ID, and wasn't sure what account was associated with messages, I went
>>> in to the settings menu and clicked to login with my Apple ID and logged out
>>> of gmail, and it seemed to work a little. I was able to send a test message,
>>> but I did notice that the message I sent from my computer never appeared on
>>> my cell phone as messages, so I was able to send a message, but it doesn't
>>> seem to sync across all of my Apple devices, I am sure it is a setting I
>>> have to play around with
>>> 
>>> On Aug 3, 5:24 pm, Alex Hall  wrote:
 Hi all,
 I can't figure out messages at all. I tried sending a few messages to an
>>> address that my iPod can send to with no problem, but the mac says "failed
>>> to deliver' each time. I just noticed I had a new message, so tried to find
>>> out what it was. I found the conversations table, selected the "new message"
>>> row, and went to the html content, but it was empty. Not only amd I unsure
>>> of how to use this app successfully, but I'd also like to know if there's a
>>> better way to move through it, perhaps hotkeys to compose or jump to the
>>> conversations table or current chat history? Thanks for any information
>>> anyone has on this app.
 
 Have a great day,
 Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
 mehg...@gmail.com;http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap
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Dictation

[Mary Scott]

Hi all, I am so excited.  My son downloaded ML today for me.  It was a bit 
dicey but it is okay now.  My question is, when dictating, is it necessary to 
say every punctuation or does it get it by the way it sounds?

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Re: Dictation

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi Mary,

I am writing this to you using dictation. It is absolutely necessary to put in 
the punctuation. Also, you will need to say " newline "When you want to enter a 
newline Character.

Jeff
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> say every punctuation or does it get it by the way it sounds?
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Re: Dictation

[Ray Foret Jr]

Well this is an example of what it looks like when you don't send punctuation 
just as the run off and on and on and it looks like this and that's what you 
have to say the punctuation I hope that helps

Of this, is what it looks like when you do say the punctuation. Because, of 
course, it changes the entire look of the text, as you can see.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

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Re: Dictation

[Ray Foret Jr]

If I'm not mistaken, I believe that the dictation feature also acknowledges new 
paragraph 

Signs as well.
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> Hi Mary,
> 
> I am writing this to you using dictation. It is absolutely necessary to put 
> in the punctuation. Also, you will need to say " newline "When you want to 
> enter a newline Character.
> 
> Jeff
> On 2012-08-07, at 8:12 PM, Mary Scott  wrote:
> 
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>> dicey but it is okay now.  My question is, when dictating, is it necessary 
>> to say every punctuation or does it get it by the way it sounds?
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Solution to Multiple Messages in Mail.app and a question about VIP's

[Harry Hogue]

Hi, guys,

For those of you, like me, who use Gmail to access your mail and the Apple Mail 
client to read your mail, if you want philters on your messages, or even if you 
don't , you may occasionally find that messages are duplicated because of 
Gmail's folder system (which they call labels).  I found an article just now 
that explained how to clear up this confusion, and have successfully applied it.

I don't know if there is an accessible version of gmail.com, but I went into 
settings and clicked on the labels tab (it took me some time to play with it to 
figure out how to get there) and unchecked everything concerned with "Show in 
iMap list."  This way all I have is a single folder in Mail.app which says, 
"Gmail," where all my messages are.  With this in mind, I am now going to go 
and recreate my Mac Visionaries rule with a mailbox in Mail, and hopefully this 
will clarify things.  I have no idea how that will affect things -- if messages 
may be missed because they are then not pulled to the mail client because of 
being tagged as "important," etc. and therefore may not appear in my filtered 
list of messages, but it is definitely worth a try, and I wanted to pass this 
tip along to others.  In other words, if it helps clear up some confusion, all 
the better.  I was getting very tired of duplicate messages.  They are probably 
still on Gmail's server, which I would prefer they not be -- so maybe I should 
uncheck or just remove some of the labels all together.  I'm not sure, and if 
anyone has thoughts on this, I'm open to hearing them.

In the meantime, I'm off to create a rule which will hopefully keep me more 
organized.

On another note, is anyone familiar with the new VIP feature in Mail and how 
that might work with VoiceOver?  As I understand it, it is a way to be notified 
of an incoming message form a particular person, and I suppose the notification 
arrives via notification center?

All the best,

Harry

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So Why on Earth Does Mission Control Just Pop Up Unexpectedly With That Weird Noise?

[Christine Grassman]

This is happening a few times a day, in Mail, in Safari, while searching in 
Spotlight, while in the Finder, and so on. There's the Swish noise, and there 
it is, and I have to get out of it, or nothing works right. Very, very odd. I 
feel like it's jumping out and saying "Boo!" or "You're it!"
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Re: So Why on Earth Does Mission Control Just Pop Up Unexpectedly With That Weird Noise?

[Veronica Elsea]

Christine, it's because the command to get into Mission control is 
control-down-arrow. All it takes is to hit the control key to shut up 
speech, then hit the down-arrow a little too soon and there you are. 
Mission control is supposed to be a place where you can look at all of 
the different applications you have opened.
If you go into system preferences and find the keyboard section, then 
choose the keyboard shortcuts tab, you can get rid of this shortcut and 
this annoyance will go away. As I remember the dialog was a bit twiddly 
fiddly for me when I did this, but I was much more of a beginner than I 
am now, which is a slightly more advanced beginner. Hahahaha! But when 
I'm on my macbook soon, I'll take another look at that dialog in case 
you have more questions about making sure you get rid of the right 
shortcut. Also, I think control-left-arrow opens the dash board. Hope 
this helps as a start, at least.


Veronica


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This is happening a few times a day, in Mail, in Safari, while searching in Spotlight, while in the 
Finder, and so on. There's the Swish noise, and there it is, and I have to get out of it, or 
nothing works right. Very, very odd. I feel like it's jumping out and saying "Boo!" or 
"You're it!"
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Re: So Why on Earth Does Mission Control Just Pop Up Unexpectedly With That Weird Noise?

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

Mission Controls' preferences are in System Preferences under Apple. I don't 
see a way to disable it, but maybe you can identify what command, or keyboard 
shortcut, it is that you're hitting that's making it pop up?


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Getting Mission Control out of the way.

[Veronica Elsea]

Hi Christine and everyone.
Okay, I'm on the MacBook now so I thought I'd share what I did to get 
rid of Mission Control's annoying unwanted appearances.

1. go into system preferences.
2. Interact with preference panes scroll area.
3.  VO-right-arrow to the keyboard button. Note: You will pass by 
Mission control, which does contain some keyboard options. But these are 
for keyboard commands while you're in Mission control, so they're not 
what we're after at the moment.
4. Select keyboard and VO-right-arrow to the keyboard shortcuts tab and 
select it. Note: You'll pass by the keyboard tab on the way to the 
keyboard shortcuts tab.

5.  VO-right-arrow till you hear "shortcut categories table.
6.  On mine, Mission control was the first item in the table. If it 
isn't for you, up and down arrow till you find mission control.
7.  Then VO-right-arrow past a vertical splitter, then you'll find 
mission control shortcuts table.
8.  Here's where it got interesting for me. If you don't interact with 
the shortcuts table, you can up and down arrow, hearing checkboxes which 
are either checked or unchecked. But of course, you can't change the 
state of the checkboxes. Once you interact, you can uncheck these boxes, 
you just can't tell what you're unchecking. So I just kept tabbing and 
shift-tabbing back and forth, being careful that I didn't get myself 
into a strange table and uncheck some big thing somewhere. But 
when you're not interacting with the shortcuts table, you will see 
things like application windows, control-down-arrow. If you count from 
the top, knowing which one this is, just interact, uncheck that box and 
your life will be so much more peaceful.
9.  If you stop interacting with the shortcuts table, you can 
VO-right-arrow to the place where you can decide how the tab key 
behaves. Or you can just close with Command-W and enjoy your Mac life.
Anyway, there may be an easier path, but I hope this made sense and did 
some good.


Veronica

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Voice Changer that Works Through Skype

[Kevin Shaw]

Hi gang,

I've got a friend who needs to interview someone through Skype, but for privacy 
reasons, the interviewee's voice needs to be changed/modulated. Does anyone 
know of software that can do this?

Any help is appreciated.

Regards,
kevin

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Re: Getting Mission Control out of the way.

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

Can I just ask, what does everyone use Control up and or down arrow to do?  
Mission Control has come up only very seldom with me, usually because of a typo 
involving Control arrows. I'm just curious why it comes up for so often for so 
many.


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Re: Voice Changer that Works Through Skype

[Harry Hogue]

Kevin,

I know there is an iPhone app called "Voice Changer" that will do this, but I 
can't imagine any legitimate job position which would require this as an 
initial part of the interview process.  That sounds very fishy to me.  however, 
please check out that app, which is mentioned as a way to have fun with your 
friends, etc.

I hope this helps.

Harry

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> 
> I've got a friend who needs to interview someone through Skype, but for 
> privacy reasons, the interviewee's voice needs to be changed/modulated. Does 
> anyone know of software that can do this?
> 
> Any help is appreciated.
> 
> Regards,
> Kevin
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Safari questions with ML

[Veronica Elsea]

Hi everyone!
First, I thought I'd respond to the discussion on tables. The one I encounter 
is on my bank's web site. I can find the table and VO-right-arrow through each 
item. When I'm on the first column of a row, the VO-R command also reads the 
whole row to me. I can't figure out how to bop straight down a column though. 
But at least the information is all there.
And I so appreciate those of you who reported the apparent bug here. I was 
beginning to think I was losing my mind. I just can't seem to quite figure out 
where I land and when I need to interact and when I don't. I don't remember 
having this issue in Lion but granted, I only used it a little bit because I 
was waiting for Mountain Lion before really getting going on this Macbook. 
The other thing I've apparently lost track of is how to quickly do a google 
search. I have figured out that if I open Safari and just stay on the tool bar, 
I can type a url or a search term. I then VO-right-arrow to the html content 
area where I interact. But it sure seemed to me that there was a keystroke or 
something that went easily into that google search. But I just can't find it 
anywhere. 
But boy I'd sure love a good tutorial and demo of really using Safari in ML. I 
did create an activity which turns on Quick Nav when I go into Safari, and I 
was afraid that this was what was messing up my browsing experience.
So I will await further news and see how far I get in the meantime. But thanks 
so much to all of you who are so on top of all of this stuff. I look forward to 
doing my part to pay forward. In the meantime, I'm open to all Safari 
suggestions. Thanks.

Veronica

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Re: Getting Mission Control out of the way.

[Veronica Elsea]

Mark, it comes up when you hit the control key to silence VO, as in starting to 
read the subject, date and all the info for an email message. If you then hit 
the down-arrow too quickly, intending to go to the next message, bingo! You've 
opened Mission control. I did this a lot in the early days of learning this 
keyboard. In trying to type something like VO-down-arrow, all you have to do is 
slightly miss a finger press and hey look! There it is again.  
In my case, since it was something I knew I'd never want, I sure couldn't see 
tripping over the thing, no matter how infrequently it happened. 
So that's my story. Have fun.

Veronica

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wrote:

> Can I just ask, what does everyone use Control up and or down arrow to do?  
> Mission Control has come up only very seldom with me, usually because of a 
> typo involving Control arrows. I'm just curious why it comes up for so often 
> for so many.
> 
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Re: Getting Mission Control out of the way.

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

Oh, please excuse me; I didn't mean to imply that you'd been careless or 
negligent.  *smile* I just haven't experienced the conditions in which it's 
invoked very often.  Yep, there it is, and Escape banishes it back. Hmmm.
 

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Re: messages app for chatting with Facebook friends?

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi. I recommend Trillion for Facebook Chat because it also monitors news feeds 
from your friends and if Growl notifications are set to speech, it'll 
automatically read them out to you. I do have a question for Brandon that 
suggested Messages. Does it also do the same thing that Trillion does, meaning 
monitors news feeds?

Shawn
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Infovox ivox mananger/voices

[Krysti .Power]

Has anyone ever tried/bought a voice if so how's the quality

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Re: Safari questions with ML

[Rachel Feinberg]

Hi Veronica,

For the keystroke to quickly go to the address bar where you can either google 
search, or type in a URL is command+l.
I'll wait, (along with you), for someone to explain tables, since i'm still new 
to this as well.
Rachel
On Aug 7, 2012, at 8:40 PM, Veronica Elsea  
wrote:

> Hi everyone!
> First, I thought I'd respond to the discussion on tables. The one I encounter 
> is on my bank's web site. I can find the table and VO-right-arrow through 
> each item. When I'm on the first column of a row, the VO-R command also reads 
> the whole row to me. I can't figure out how to bop straight down a column 
> though. But at least the information is all there.
> And I so appreciate those of you who reported the apparent bug here. I was 
> beginning to think I was losing my mind. I just can't seem to quite figure 
> out where I land and when I need to interact and when I don't. I don't 
> remember having this issue in Lion but granted, I only used it a little bit 
> because I was waiting for Mountain Lion before really getting going on this 
> Macbook. 
> The other thing I've apparently lost track of is how to quickly do a google 
> search. I have figured out that if I open Safari and just stay on the tool 
> bar, I can type a url or a search term. I then VO-right-arrow to the html 
> content area where I interact. But it sure seemed to me that there was a 
> keystroke or something that went easily into that google search. But I just 
> can't find it anywhere. 
> But boy I'd sure love a good tutorial and demo of really using Safari in ML. 
> I did create an activity which turns on Quick Nav when I go into Safari, and 
> I was afraid that this was what was messing up my browsing experience.
> So I will await further news and see how far I get in the meantime. But 
> thanks so much to all of you who are so on top of all of this stuff. I look 
> forward to doing my part to pay forward. In the meantime, I'm open to all 
> Safari suggestions. Thanks.
> 
> Veronica
> 
> Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner at 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ
> Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at 
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
> Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
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Re: Getting Mission Control out of the way.

[Veronica Elsea]

Hey, no problem.  But the first time I accidentally hit that 
keystroke and heard that swoosh, I just about jumped out of my skin. I 
think that's the real problem, when you're really concentrating and then 
blammo! 

Thanks.

Veronica


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI

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Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


On 8/7/2012 8:49 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:

Oh, please excuse me; I didn't mean to imply that you'd been careless or 
negligent.  *smile* I just haven't experienced the conditions in which it's 
invoked very often.  Yep, there it is, and Escape banishes it back. Hmmm.


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Re: Safari questions with ML

[Veronica Elsea]

Oh how nice. I didn't realize that one could also search with command-L. 
So when would one use Command-F? And where would this command look for 
things? Thanks so much.


Veronica


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http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
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Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407


On 8/7/2012 9:15 PM, Rachel Feinberg wrote:

Hi Veronica,

For the keystroke to quickly go to the address bar where you can either google 
search, or type in a URL is command+l.
I'll wait, (along with you), for someone to explain tables, since i'm still new 
to this as well.
Rachel
On Aug 7, 2012, at 8:40 PM, Veronica Elsea  
wrote:


Hi everyone!
First, I thought I'd respond to the discussion on tables. The one I encounter 
is on my bank's web site. I can find the table and VO-right-arrow through each 
item. When I'm on the first column of a row, the VO-R command also reads the 
whole row to me. I can't figure out how to bop straight down a column though. 
But at least the information is all there.
And I so appreciate those of you who reported the apparent bug here. I was 
beginning to think I was losing my mind. I just can't seem to quite figure out 
where I land and when I need to interact and when I don't. I don't remember 
having this issue in Lion but granted, I only used it a little bit because I 
was waiting for Mountain Lion before really getting going on this Macbook.
The other thing I've apparently lost track of is how to quickly do a google 
search. I have figured out that if I open Safari and just stay on the tool bar, 
I can type a url or a search term. I then VO-right-arrow to the html content 
area where I interact. But it sure seemed to me that there was a keystroke or 
something that went easily into that google search. But I just can't find it 
anywhere.
But boy I'd sure love a good tutorial and demo of really using Safari in ML. I 
did create an activity which turns on Quick Nav when I go into Safari, and I 
was afraid that this was what was messing up my browsing experience.
So I will await further news and see how far I get in the meantime. But thanks 
so much to all of you who are so on top of all of this stuff. I look forward to 
doing my part to pay forward. In the meantime, I'm open to all Safari 
suggestions. Thanks.

Veronica

Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ
Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at
http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
Veronica Elsea, Owner
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Re: Safari questions with ML

[Rachel Feinberg]

I believe command F searches just the current page or area you're on, Whereas 
command L gets you to the search field for google or to enter a web address.

On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:20 PM, Veronica Elsea  
wrote:

> Oh how nice. I didn't realize that one could also search with command-L. So 
> when would one use Command-F? And where would this command look for things? 
> Thanks so much.
> 
> Veronica
> 
> 
> Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI
> Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
> 
> 
> On 8/7/2012 9:15 PM, Rachel Feinberg wrote:
>> Hi Veronica,
>> 
>> For the keystroke to quickly go to the address bar where you can either 
>> google search, or type in a URL is command+l.
>> I'll wait, (along with you), for someone to explain tables, since i'm still 
>> new to this as well.
>> Rachel
>> On Aug 7, 2012, at 8:40 PM, Veronica Elsea  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone!
>>> First, I thought I'd respond to the discussion on tables. The one I 
>>> encounter is on my bank's web site. I can find the table and VO-right-arrow 
>>> through each item. When I'm on the first column of a row, the VO-R command 
>>> also reads the whole row to me. I can't figure out how to bop straight down 
>>> a column though. But at least the information is all there.
>>> And I so appreciate those of you who reported the apparent bug here. I was 
>>> beginning to think I was losing my mind. I just can't seem to quite figure 
>>> out where I land and when I need to interact and when I don't. I don't 
>>> remember having this issue in Lion but granted, I only used it a little bit 
>>> because I was waiting for Mountain Lion before really getting going on this 
>>> Macbook.
>>> The other thing I've apparently lost track of is how to quickly do a google 
>>> search. I have figured out that if I open Safari and just stay on the tool 
>>> bar, I can type a url or a search term. I then VO-right-arrow to the html 
>>> content area where I interact. But it sure seemed to me that there was a 
>>> keystroke or something that went easily into that google search. But I just 
>>> can't find it anywhere.
>>> But boy I'd sure love a good tutorial and demo of really using Safari in 
>>> ML. I did create an activity which turns on Quick Nav when I go into 
>>> Safari, and I was afraid that this was what was messing up my browsing 
>>> experience.
>>> So I will await further news and see how far I get in the meantime. But 
>>> thanks so much to all of you who are so on top of all of this stuff. I look 
>>> forward to doing my part to pay forward. In the meantime, I'm open to all 
>>> Safari suggestions. Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Veronica
>>> 
>>> Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner at
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ
>>> Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>> Veronica Elsea, Owner
>>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> Phone: 831-429-6407
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Re: Safari questions with ML

[Les Kriegler]

Command-S on a web page gives one the option to save/export the current page.

Les
On Aug 8, 2012, at 12:25 AM, Rachel Feinberg  wrote:

> I believe command F searches just the current page or area you're on, Whereas 
> command L gets you to the search field for google or to enter a web address.
> 
> On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:20 PM, Veronica Elsea  
> wrote:
> 
>> Oh how nice. I didn't realize that one could also search with command-L. So 
>> when would one use Command-F? And where would this command look for things? 
>> Thanks so much.
>> 
>> Veronica
>> 
>> 
>> Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI
>> Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>   Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/7/2012 9:15 PM, Rachel Feinberg wrote:
>>> Hi Veronica,
>>> 
>>> For the keystroke to quickly go to the address bar where you can either 
>>> google search, or type in a URL is command+l.
>>> I'll wait, (along with you), for someone to explain tables, since i'm still 
>>> new to this as well.
>>> Rachel
>>> On Aug 7, 2012, at 8:40 PM, Veronica Elsea  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi everyone!
 First, I thought I'd respond to the discussion on tables. The one I 
 encounter is on my bank's web site. I can find the table and 
 VO-right-arrow through each item. When I'm on the first column of a row, 
 the VO-R command also reads the whole row to me. I can't figure out how to 
 bop straight down a column though. But at least the information is all 
 there.
 And I so appreciate those of you who reported the apparent bug here. I was 
 beginning to think I was losing my mind. I just can't seem to quite figure 
 out where I land and when I need to interact and when I don't. I don't 
 remember having this issue in Lion but granted, I only used it a little 
 bit because I was waiting for Mountain Lion before really getting going on 
 this Macbook.
 The other thing I've apparently lost track of is how to quickly do a 
 google search. I have figured out that if I open Safari and just stay on 
 the tool bar, I can type a url or a search term. I then VO-right-arrow to 
 the html content area where I interact. But it sure seemed to me that 
 there was a keystroke or something that went easily into that google 
 search. But I just can't find it anywhere.
 But boy I'd sure love a good tutorial and demo of really using Safari in 
 ML. I did create an activity which turns on Quick Nav when I go into 
 Safari, and I was afraid that this was what was messing up my browsing 
 experience.
 So I will await further news and see how far I get in the meantime. But 
 thanks so much to all of you who are so on top of all of this stuff. I 
 look forward to doing my part to pay forward. In the meantime, I'm open to 
 all Safari suggestions. Thanks.
 
 Veronica
 
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 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ
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Re: Voice Changer that Works Through Skype

[Dan Eickmeier]

 Hi Kevin, what your friend could do after the call is initially recorded, is 
to edit the call in an audio editor, dropping the voice of the interviewee in 
pitch.  I'd say that'd be their best bet.
On 2012-08-07, at 11:46 PM, Harry Hogue  wrote:

> Kevin,
> 
> I know there is an iPhone app called "Voice Changer" that will do this, but I 
> can't imagine any legitimate job position which would require this as an 
> initial part of the interview process.  That sounds very fishy to me.  
> however, please check out that app, which is mentioned as a way to have fun 
> with your friends, etc.
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
> Harry
> 
> On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:16 PM, Kevin Shaw  wrote:
> 
>> Hi gang,
>> 
>> I've got a friend who needs to interview someone through Skype, but for 
>> privacy reasons, the interviewee's voice needs to be changed/modulated. Does 
>> anyone know of software that can do this?
>> 
>> Any help is appreciated.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Kevin
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Re: Getting Mission Control out of the way.

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Veronica,

Well, thanks for this.  I've inadvertently activated Mission Control and am 
glad to get rid of it.  I had two keystrokes to deal with, Control-Up and 
Control-Down Arrow.  I could uncheck the boxes without interacting, so not sure 
why you had to do so, but the end result was the same for both of us, that's 
what counts.  Thanks again.

Les
On Aug 7, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Veronica Elsea  
wrote:

> Hi Christine and everyone.
> Okay, I'm on the MacBook now so I thought I'd share what I did to get rid of 
> Mission Control's annoying unwanted appearances.
> 1. go into system preferences.
> 2. Interact with preference panes scroll area.
> 3.  VO-right-arrow to the keyboard button. Note: You will pass by Mission 
> control, which does contain some keyboard options. But these are for keyboard 
> commands while you're in Mission control, so they're not what we're after at 
> the moment.
> 4. Select keyboard and VO-right-arrow to the keyboard shortcuts tab and 
> select it. Note: You'll pass by the keyboard tab on the way to the keyboard 
> shortcuts tab.
> 5.  VO-right-arrow till you hear "shortcut categories table.
> 6.  On mine, Mission control was the first item in the table. If it isn't for 
> you, up and down arrow till you find mission control.
> 7.  Then VO-right-arrow past a vertical splitter, then you'll find mission 
> control shortcuts table.
> 8.  Here's where it got interesting for me. If you don't interact with the 
> shortcuts table, you can up and down arrow, hearing checkboxes which are 
> either checked or unchecked. But of course, you can't change the state of the 
> checkboxes. Once you interact, you can uncheck these boxes, you just can't 
> tell what you're unchecking. So I just kept tabbing and shift-tabbing back 
> and forth, being careful that I didn't get myself into a strange table and 
> uncheck some big thing somewhere. But when you're not interacting with 
> the shortcuts table, you will see things like application windows, 
> control-down-arrow. If you count from the top, knowing which one this is, 
> just interact, uncheck that box and your life will be so much more peaceful.
> 9.  If you stop interacting with the shortcuts table, you can VO-right-arrow 
> to the place where you can decide how the tab key behaves. Or you can just 
> close with Command-W and enjoy your Mac life.
> Anyway, there may be an easier path, but I hope this made sense and did some 
> good.
> 
> Veronica
> 
> Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI
> Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
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Re: Getting Mission Control out of the way.

[Teresa Cochran]

Before I disabled the Mission Control keystroke, it would come up every time I 
used VO-up-arrow, which contains the control-up-arrow keystroke. That's 
probably what's happening in a lot of cases.

Teresa

On Aug 7, 2012, at 8:14 PM, Veronica Elsea  
wrote:

> Hi Christine and everyone.
> Okay, I'm on the MacBook now so I thought I'd share what I did to get rid of 
> Mission Control's annoying unwanted appearances.
> 1. go into system preferences.
> 2. Interact with preference panes scroll area.
> 3.  VO-right-arrow to the keyboard button. Note: You will pass by Mission 
> control, which does contain some keyboard options. But these are for keyboard 
> commands while you're in Mission control, so they're not what we're after at 
> the moment.
> 4. Select keyboard and VO-right-arrow to the keyboard shortcuts tab and 
> select it. Note: You'll pass by the keyboard tab on the way to the keyboard 
> shortcuts tab.
> 5.  VO-right-arrow till you hear "shortcut categories table.
> 6.  On mine, Mission control was the first item in the table. If it isn't for 
> you, up and down arrow till you find mission control.
> 7.  Then VO-right-arrow past a vertical splitter, then you'll find mission 
> control shortcuts table.
> 8.  Here's where it got interesting for me. If you don't interact with the 
> shortcuts table, you can up and down arrow, hearing checkboxes which are 
> either checked or unchecked. But of course, you can't change the state of the 
> checkboxes. Once you interact, you can uncheck these boxes, you just can't 
> tell what you're unchecking. So I just kept tabbing and shift-tabbing back 
> and forth, being careful that I didn't get myself into a strange table and 
> uncheck some big thing somewhere. But when you're not interacting with 
> the shortcuts table, you will see things like application windows, 
> control-down-arrow. If you count from the top, knowing which one this is, 
> just interact, uncheck that box and your life will be so much more peaceful.
> 9.  If you stop interacting with the shortcuts table, you can VO-right-arrow 
> to the place where you can decide how the tab key behaves. Or you can just 
> close with Command-W and enjoy your Mac life.
> Anyway, there may be an easier path, but I hope this made sense and did some 
> good.
> 
> Veronica
> 
> Watch and hear Veronica Elsea's Prayer for a Soldier at 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFoIhWrBHFI
> Then find more music from Veronica Elsea and The Guide Dog Glee Club at:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
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Setting activities

[Lisette Wesseling]

Hi folks,
I'm not having much luck setting up an activity for Safari. All I want is that  
when Safari starts,  quicknav be turned on and turned off again when I leave 
Safari.
I've gone into VO Utility with vo f8.
I've chosen activity which is the last row in the table.
I've entered Safari in the first row of the activities table. I've checked the 
"additional settings to include" checkbox.
I've checked quick nav.

And yet quick nav doesn't turn on when I go into Safari. Should any of the 
other boxes be checked? I checked keyboard also, but this makes no difference. 
Any other suggestions?
Thanks for your help.

Lisette

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Re: Setting activities

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

did you actually pick the activity to be used with Safari?  You didn't mention 
that step in your message.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Aug 8, 2012, at 2:06 AM, Lisette Wesseling  
wrote:

> Hi folks,
> I'm not having much luck setting up an activity for Safari. All I want is 
> that  when Safari starts,  quicknav be turned on and turned off again when I 
> leave Safari.
> I've gone into VO Utility with vo f8.
> I've chosen activity which is the last row in the table.
> I've entered Safari in the first row of the activities table. I've checked 
> the "additional settings to include" checkbox.
> I've checked quick nav.
> 
> And yet quick nav doesn't turn on when I go into Safari. Should any of the 
> other boxes be checked? I checked keyboard also, but this makes no 
> difference. 
> Any other suggestions?
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Lisette
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