Re: Priorities
Hi Jenny, I'm glad I've been listening to this thread. >From my experience on this, Here in the UK, though there is audio description >to TV shows via new digital TV's, there still isn't a spoken user interface >to allow access to various menus, same on DVD players, recorders, etc. I've >not yet come across a single audio described DVD in my time. Support for blind and visually impaired people in most parts of the UK is absolutely shocking. as an example, in education, I'm here in Wales (a lottery win would see me leaving here as soon as possible), throughout my education life, both visually impaired and blind, I've been let down and lied to, given useless equipment which constantly failed, the wrong software, extremely poor braille training, etc. the only good thing that came from it was mobility training through RNIB instead of social services rehab department. There was a point where mobility aids were free but now they're not, so I have to pay about £300 per year on canes and tips due to high usage and certain occasions where thugs in our area attack me destroying the cane for "fun", so replacement canes are kept by. If you apply for funding, it's virtually non existent, not only that but the rulings given have no sense nor structure. so if you need adaptive equipment, not a chance, it's sell what you own or get into debt, that's my experience on that matter. Why is it when you walk into a store and ask for help, you get a useless person who hasn't a clue of how to assist you? I get this all the time... I may as well appear as a muppet on the Muppet Show.. You ask to be guided and they go without you, they say " it's over there", don't describe the items, etc. So what's the bloomin use of them in the first place. Then of course the ultimate insult. to be blind and wanting to work for companies here is a joke. Though I'm highly qualified and have all the right requirements, because of being blind, there are 3 main areas that stop me from working for a firm. 1: disability discrimination by the interviewer or company, 2: Health and Safety regulations acts, 3: employer insurance costs. I've been in the IT game for myself for a while and don't mind it, but my main skills are as a cabinet maker, having been trained by my grandfather who was a master cabinet maker / carpenter. so I took on his work after his retirement, so I'm the last in the line of the family in the trades and am keeping that alive. I'm fine working for myself, but if I were to work for a joinery company, they couldn't take me on for the amount of HSE red tape nonsense. This stops us experienced folk from doing our jobs and putting us out of work and I'm sick of it. I do some work with a company as a product demonstrator / endorser of their products as I use them every day in the workshop and it's ridiculous how all this nonsense gets in the way. Anyway, I also agree that here in the UK, if you're in a wheel chair, deaf, etc you receive more support, blind and visually impaired people don't matter and we're being ripped off with rubbish services, etc. Education is a total mess where mainstream education should be the best option and is instead hampered by people who cannot cater for a blind or visually impaired person's needs and LEGAL RIGHTS. anyway, enough from me on that matter and I agree with your statements. This world needs to open it's eyes to how we have to survice in this world and that we should be treeted with the utmost respect and care, given the same rights as the rest of the world and granted the support we need to be able to achieve what our SIGHTED, able bodied equals should and are able to do. lew On 29 Apr 2012, at 01:40, Jenny Keller wrote: > Well, In my humble opinion, equality isn't there, so that, isn't fair > treatment. the Americans with Disabilities Act should include the blind or > visually \impaired just as vigorously as it does every other disability in > this country. > > there aren't any services, that I know of at this point, that the visually > impaired community, or blind community receive that anyone else would > consider unfair. > > Believe me, I've been almost totally blind all my life, and I can say from > experience, that the simplest things that I've needed have had to be > justified by education or work, which I can work because of other physical > disabilities, and for education, I wasn't given the option of being taught > braille in the beginning because I had some sight. So I can say out of > experience, there isn't anything that I own, that I didn't beg, borrow, or > barter, or finance within an inch of my disability, to get. > > to be very frank, there are a lot of things, such as that bar code reader > they have on special on financing, which I can't afford, that my husband and > I desperately need,, that I'll never be able to have. Only because I can't > justify it to the government because we're not working. >
Re: iPhone/iPad gamers...
Hi. It's the way the game is played. The concept is, there are lots of squares with letters in, wich shall be combined as as many words as possible in 2 minutes. I like it, but as we all know, sighted have a much easier task to get the whole picture, wich VO-users don't have :p -David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mail weirdness
G-mail imap is not like normal imap and I suspect Google would prefer to hold on to all those messages because of all the information they contain. :) I certainly would like to know how all those messages in the Gmail deleted messages folder on the Gmail site could be trashed all at once. I wonder if any mail client really deletes all the messages and I say delete in the sense of truly removing them. Well removing them as much as is possible since I am sure the messages are backed up somewhere in GOogle land. On Apr 28, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: > When I went into gmail settings, I could not find anything to enable > immediate deletion of messages. I recall some time ago when there was an > option in Google Labs supporting an option to make gmail's IMAP emulation > work like normal IMAP servers but I haven't heard anything more on this since > then. > > In the mean time, the messages I delete with the delete key are now placing > messages into a folder called Deleted messages. I guess I will have to go > this route for now and use Mutt email client to go in and move them all over > to [Gmail]/Trash from time to time. Or just go back to moving them to Trash > manually each time I wish to delete stuff. Frankly, the the delete function > in Apple Mail for Lion is not doing the job the way I want it to. It might > work well for POP or standard IMAP but not for gmail IMAP. > > On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:00 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > >> Hello Caitlyn et al, >> >> I read your message very carefully. >> >> Currently, I have several G Mail iMap accounts that I access with Apple >> Mail. I have no problems at all in deleting messages from any of them; I >> have re-installed Lion several times since its release without having ever >> experienced the problem you and others are currently reporting. >> >> When I wish to delete a message from either a conversation or the delete the >> entire thread, in Standard view, I simply press the BackSpace key on the >> keyboard. >> >> Now, before exiting Mail, I use the key combo Command+Shift+Backspace in >> order to empty the messages currently marked for deletion. I answer yes, in >> the confirmation Dialog box and they are permanently deleted. >> >> Now you may be saying, "Yes, Mark, I do this as well yet it does not work." >> To which I will reply, I understand. >> >> The problem is that there is a setting that must be configured from within >> your G Mail account, itself, on the web to enable the client to have access >> in order to permanently delete the mail. >> >> It's been a while since I set this up but, go to your G Mail web account. >> Somewhere in the Options, you will see something that reads like "Delete >> Messages Immediately". This will be unchecked. You must place a checkmark >> in this option. Then, if all goes well and "the water don't rise," as the >> saying goes (smile) you should be in business. >> >> While you're in that area of your G Mail account, review all of the message >> options in case I am, most likely, forgetting something else. >> >> One more thing, I have my G Mail account setup so that, when using either >> Apple Mail or Microsoft Outlook, I can quickly and easily undelete any >> message marked for deletion (before the purge), by using key-combo Command+Z >> on the Mac or Control+Z in Windows 7. If you would like to know how to >> configure this for your G Mail account, check out episode 70 of the Candle >> Shore podcast. >> >> Good Luck, >> >> Mark >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness >> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 11:08 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Cc: Caitlyn Furness >> Subject: mail weirdness >> >> Hi, >> >> I hope somebody has some suggestions about my mail problem. >> >> After a reinstall of Lion a couple weeks ago, I of course had to reinput my >> mail account. I am using my gmail account. Now,, mail isn't deleting my >> messages after I read them. The next time I reopen mail, the same messages >> are back again! >> >> In mail preferences, I have it set to delete the trash when quitting mail, >> and to not leave things on the server. >> >> What am I doing wrong? >> >> Before I had to reinstall Lion, my gamil account didn't act like this! >> >> thanks, >> Caitlyn >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscr
Re: Priorities
Hi all, This is indeed an interesting discussion. I come from a country where most visually impaired people are so accustomed to being left out and neglected that they don't even find it worthwhile to discuss these things. India has the largest number of visually impaired/ blind people in the world. But, sadly, it continues to be one of the most ignorant countries in the world when it comes to safeguarding and promoting the rights of visually impaired people. Most assistive devices and screen readers are so expensive here that only the elite can think about buying them. Devices like the iPhone and the iPad which are accessible cost more than $1000. The idea of having audio described movies or TV shows almost sounds laughable here. The government provides absolutely no funding for visually impaired people. And I can't even talk about the educational system, because there is no educational system in place for visually impaired people in the first place. Most of them go to special schools, most of which are pathetic to say the least, and a few who are lucky enough to have parents who have money and the determination to enable their children to compete in the real world manage to perform the herculean task of studying in a normal school. Most people here live under the impression that the lives of visually impaired people in western countries like the U.S. and the U.K. are extremely fulfilling and free of obstacles. I know I'm just whinging, but I just thought I should share this with you all. Cheers, Rahul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iPhone/iPad gamers...
Braille is your friend here. :) Best, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-04-29, at 5:52 AM, David Hole wrote: > Hi. > > It's the way the game is played. > The concept is, there are lots of squares with letters in, wich shall > be combined as as many words as possible in 2 minutes. > I like it, but as we all know, sighted have a much easier task to get > the whole picture, wich VO-users don't have :p > > -David > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mail app?
Ok, vo-j works even better, thanks for the correction. Now, let's hope they don't break it again as I recall happening in an previous update... On 29 Apr 2012, at 00:29, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: > qQuick commeh > > Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most online > stores. > Sent from my phone > > On Apr 28, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > >> Okay, thanks. I'll try vo-j, but I figured out I can just hit enter to read >> the message, then cmd-w the window when I'm done. Still not too elegant, but >> better than arrowing all over the place. I think I'll stick to the normal >> view, since I get a great deal of messages from mailing lists and i would >> hate to not have things grouped by conversation. >> On 28 Apr 2012, at 22:26, Henry D. Hollithron wrote: >> >>> Good Day: >>> >>> I've put the answers to your questions, at least as much as I know of >>> them, in the extract from your original message below. Since I've only used >>> Mac OS Lion, though, someone else might have additional information. At any >>> rate, here goes. >>> >>> HTH: >>> Henry >>> >>> Education never ends. It is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the >>> last. >>> Sherlock Homes >>> >>> On 28 Apr 2012, at 15:32, Alex Hall wrote: >>> 1. I deleted a message, but vo said nothing and I was jumped to the bottom of the mail list. What happened? >>> Your message was moved to the trash mailbox. I don't know if you have >>> your messages column sorted from oldest to newest or not, but that might be >>> why you're moved to the bottom of the message list. If you want to make >>> sure that you have actually deleted all the messages you didn't want to >>> keep, you can, of course, look at the trash mailbox. There is a favorites >>> bar at the top of the window, but I prefer to go to the view menu and >>> choose the "show mailbox list' option. Both are accessible, but I don't >>> know how you would go about adding a mailbox to the favorites bar, which, >>> as I understand, allows you to switch to a mailbox with a single keystroke. >>> 2. Why can I not quickly read messages? I tried cmd-j and tab, but nothing happened, yet a new message appeared in a conversation as though I had just read the oldest one, though I had not. I can hit the "stop interacting" keystroke twice, then vo-right a few times and interact, but there has to be a better way. >>> The keystroke to jump to the preview pane is VO-J. Command J, I think, >>> marks the message as junk, though I'm not quite certain on that point, >>> since it doesn't show up in the menus to my knowledge. 3. I hear a lot about "classic view". What is it, and should I switch to it? What advantages does the normal view offer over the classic? >>> The new view introduced into Lion is very similar to the view of >>> messages you might get on the GMAIL website, that is, messages with the >>> same subject are grouped into conversations, which you can expand. The >>> classic view, in contrast, displays all the messages in a larger list, with >>> columns containing the information (date, from, subject, etc.) of the >>> message, rather like you might see with KeyMail on a BrailleNote. Both >>> views are accessible, so most people recommend experimenting with them and >>> seeing which one you prefer. The option, as you probably already know, is >>> in the View menu with the name "Organize by Conversation". >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To
A question about Dashboard
Hi all, In Dashboard, how can I change the sport from Hockey to something else in ESPN or the name of the city for checking the weather? Basically, how can I change the default settings? Your help would be much appreciated. Cheers, Rahul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
web navigation?
Hi all, I am using Chrome for a web browser, and I have a few questions about reading and navigating web pages. 1. In the vo utility, you can choose either DOM order or grouping. Which is better? 2. Is there a way to disable the web rotor, so the arrows will act like they do in text reading or editing? With letter navigation, I see the web rotor as redundant and I'd rather use the arrow keys in the usual text navigation way. Thanks in advance. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: blindmicemegamall movie vault and illegal file-sharing allegation
Hi Christine Why don't you initiate a class action against the Authors gill so to level the playing ground for accessible books. Your not the first or only person I have seen on different lists complain about the Author gill. I just don't see anyone in the USA doing anything about it. So they get away with it. Only I wished that I lived there. I would then be able to do something. Sean On 28/04/2012, at 10:36 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: > With all due respect, Scott, laws which disparately impact certain groups or > classes of people have been flouted through civil disobedience since the > introduction of legal systems, e.g., civil rights, disability rights, > employment rights, etc. The United States might not exist were it not for > disobeying laws. > I am an attorney, and it continues to amaze me how slowly the U.S. is moving > to accommodate disability, and how snail-paced the societal shift in > attitudes toward us has been. and it seems that whenever a company like > Apple makes great strides in accommodating blindness off the shelf, plenty of > other technologies come along and do not bother to incorporate us into their > equation. So many educational apps, for example, are not accessible, though > they could be, and given the push now to have iPads in classrooms, once again > blind, visually impaired, and otherwise print-disabled students will be left > out. Apple moves us two steps forward, and "progress" (for others) moves us > three steps back. I should be able to turn on a television, flip a switch, or > turn on a transmitter, and get descriptions. I should be able to access books > on the Nook or the Kindle, not just iBooks. I cannot express, and I am sure > others here agree, the happiness I feel when a new release or best-selling > publication is available on iBooks. > (Incidentally, if a book is available on iBooks and on bookshare.org, I > purchase the book. Yet, I have lost quite a lot of money as a published > author -- as soon as my book was published, I sent a copy to bookshare.org; > it was more important to me to have it available at the same time to the > blind and print-disabled. The Authors Guild apparently does not care about > such access, despite the fact that they would actually get money from us.) > > I would happily go to the movies more and happily purchase audio-described > movies through iTunes if they were available. Even movies which are released > with audio description are not always sold through movie resellers -- > goodness knows I have tried. To date, I have only located The Incredible > Hulk, from 2008, which I purchased for my son. > Even Apple could do more. It could strengthen its requirements for apps. It > has provided developers with the means to make their apps VoiceOver > accessible, and there are plenty of apps out there which could be so. Only > apps that are visual by their very nature should be exempted. But, as usual, > profit trumps people, despite the fact that the disabled community rewards > those who remember us with our business. > Frankly, I would prefer to purchase the audio-described movies and shows I > download from the vault, so that I could watch them with sighted friends and > family. I wish I could show a film to a class and not have to ask my para or > a student to tell me what is going on. The entertainment industry gets plenty > of my money. If they want more, they should remember that I deserve to be > able to access their material independently. OK. Topic over. Those of you who > wish to continue this off-list are welcome; I've appreciated your > correspondence thus far. > Christine > On Apr 28, 2012, at 6:13 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> I am sure commenting on this only adds fuel to the fire, but I did want to >> point out that as I recall the person that is responsible for this movie >> vault thing also runs a legit company. I would find it difficult to believe >> that he has not checked into this because no one would want to put their >> business assets at risk. If there truly is an investigation then prove it. I >> get pretty annoyed when people claim something, but cannot or do not provide >> any reference to back those claims. And for the record I do not condone >> pirating of any kind and believe that regardless of accessibility issues >> even blind people must follow the laws. >> >> >> On Apr 27, 2012, at 10:51 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: >> >>> Naturally, if the moderator deems this discussion verboten, I will refrain >>> further, but I would feel remiss not to point out the following for >>> consideration: >>> 1. As of several hours ago, there was nothing on the FBI's official web >>> site regarding an investigation, nor were there any press releases or other >>> comparable references to an investigation of the movie vault. A reference >>> would be appreciated; mere speculation or rumor could be deemed libelous. >>> >>> 2. The problem industries
Re: blindmicemegamall movie vault and illegal file-sharing allegation
Hi all. AGain, how can education departments in the USA buy products when they are not 508 rehab accessible? I thought all governments department in the USa had to ensure the product is accessible based upon this rehab act or does this only apply for federal? There is 3 ways to change the thinking of business: 1. Demonstrate a market. 2. Take them to court. Not always a good solution. 3. Blind people develop a investment fund which invests into proactive companies in the accessible area. 4. Awareness education. Oops, I said 3, but there is 4. Lol. Sean Sean On 29/04/2012, at 7:24 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: > the issue is not the iPad itself, it is the apps that companies develop for > it. most of those companies don't consider us much of a market (either by > public perception or flawed fiscal analysis). there had already been one > debacle involving a pad type computer (kindle) and a major institution > (Arizona State University) and it was found that the blind were specifically > locked out. the same is happening with iPad apps (even though the SDK tools > and API are freely available and easy to incorporate, companies will not > concede). Its a never ending struggle as those who think they know better > never do and saddle us with their utter stupidity. there is a reason they > call this "the tyranny of the stupid". > > -eric > . > On Apr 28, 2012, at 5:39 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hi Christine, >> >> I'm perplexed. How do you see the push to have iPads in classrooms as >> something that leaves the blind/VI student out? If anything, I see that as >> something that better enables us to participate, thanks to the fact that >> Apple has made the iPad a fully accessible device. >> Best, >> Donna >> On Apr 28, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: >> >>> With all due respect, Scott, laws which disparately impact certain groups >>> or classes of people have been flouted through civil disobedience since the >>> introduction of legal systems, e.g., civil rights, disability rights, >>> employment rights, etc. The United States might not exist were it not for >>> disobeying laws. >>> I am an attorney, and it continues to amaze me how slowly the U.S. is >>> moving to accommodate disability, and how snail-paced the societal shift in >>> attitudes toward us has been. and it seems that whenever a company like >>> Apple makes great strides in accommodating blindness off the shelf, plenty >>> of other technologies come along and do not bother to incorporate us into >>> their equation. So many educational apps, for example, are not accessible, >>> though they could be, and given the push now to have iPads in classrooms, >>> once again blind, visually impaired, and otherwise print-disabled students >>> will be left out. Apple moves us two steps forward, and "progress" (for >>> others) moves us three steps back. I should be able to turn on a >>> television, flip a switch, or turn on a transmitter, and get descriptions. >>> I should be able to access books on the Nook or the Kindle, not just >>> iBooks. I cannot express, and I am sure others here agree, the happiness I >>> feel when a new release or best-selling publication is available on iBooks. >>> (Incidentally, if a book is available on iBooks and on bookshare.org, I >>> purchase the book. Yet, I have lost quite a lot of money as a published >>> author -- as soon as my book was published, I sent a copy to bookshare.org; >>> it was more important to me to have it available at the same time to the >>> blind and print-disabled. The Authors Guild apparently does not care about >>> such access, despite the fact that they would actually get money from us.) >>> >>> I would happily go to the movies more and happily purchase audio-described >>> movies through iTunes if they were available. Even movies which are >>> released with audio description are not always sold through movie resellers >>> -- goodness knows I have tried. To date, I have only located The Incredible >>> Hulk, from 2008, which I purchased for my son. >>> Even Apple could do more. It could strengthen its requirements for apps. It >>> has provided developers with the means to make their apps VoiceOver >>> accessible, and there are plenty of apps out there which could be so. Only >>> apps that are visual by their very nature should be exempted. But, as >>> usual, profit trumps people, despite the fact that the disabled community >>> rewards those who remember us with our business. >>> Frankly, I would prefer to purchase the audio-described movies and shows I >>> download from the vault, so that I could watch them with sighted friends >>> and family. I wish I could show a film to a class and not have to ask my >>> para or a student to tell me what is going on. The entertainment industry >>> gets plenty of my money. If they want more, they should remember that I >>> deserve to be able to access their material independently. OK. Topi
Screen locking issue
Hi all. How do you stop the Mac from locking the screen? I cannot see the option in the preferences. If I don't use the computer for about 5 to 15 minutes. The screen locks requiring the password again. Also, how do you put it into screen lock when you want too? Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: blindmicemegamall movie vault and illegal file-sharing allegation
Hi all. AGain, how can education departments in the USA buy products when they are not 508 rehab accessible? I thought all governments department in the USa had to ensure the product is accessible based upon this rehab act or does this only apply for federal? There is 3 ways to change the thinking of business: 1. Demonstrate a market. 2. Take them to court. Not always a good solution. 3. Blind people develop a investment fund which invests into proactive companies in the accessible area. 4. Awareness education. Oops, I said 3, but there is Sean On 29/04/2012, at 7:24 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: > the issue is not the iPad itself, it is the apps that companies develop for > it. most of those companies don't consider us much of a market (either by > public perception or flawed fiscal analysis). there had already been one > debacle involving a pad type computer (kindle) and a major institution > (Arizona State University) and it was found that the blind were specifically > locked out. the same is happening with iPad apps (even though the SDK tools > and API are freely available and easy to incorporate, companies will not > concede). Its a never ending struggle as those who think they know better > never do and saddle us with their utter stupidity. there is a reason they > call this "the tyranny of the stupid". > > -eric > . > On Apr 28, 2012, at 5:39 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hi Christine, >> >> I'm perplexed. How do you see the push to have iPads in classrooms as >> something that leaves the blind/VI student out? If anything, I see that as >> something that better enables us to participate, thanks to the fact that >> Apple has made the iPad a fully accessible device. >> Best, >> Donna >> On Apr 28, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: >> >>> With all due respect, Scott, laws which disparately impact certain groups >>> or classes of people have been flouted through civil disobedience since the >>> introduction of legal systems, e.g., civil rights, disability rights, >>> employment rights, etc. The United States might not exist were it not for >>> disobeying laws. >>> I am an attorney, and it continues to amaze me how slowly the U.S. is >>> moving to accommodate disability, and how snail-paced the societal shift in >>> attitudes toward us has been. and it seems that whenever a company like >>> Apple makes great strides in accommodating blindness off the shelf, plenty >>> of other technologies come along and do not bother to incorporate us into >>> their equation. So many educational apps, for example, are not accessible, >>> though they could be, and given the push now to have iPads in classrooms, >>> once again blind, visually impaired, and otherwise print-disabled students >>> will be left out. Apple moves us two steps forward, and "progress" (for >>> others) moves us three steps back. I should be able to turn on a >>> television, flip a switch, or turn on a transmitter, and get descriptions. >>> I should be able to access books on the Nook or the Kindle, not just >>> iBooks. I cannot express, and I am sure others here agree, the happiness I >>> feel when a new release or best-selling publication is available on iBooks. >>> (Incidentally, if a book is available on iBooks and on bookshare.org, I >>> purchase the book. Yet, I have lost quite a lot of money as a published >>> author -- as soon as my book was published, I sent a copy to bookshare.org; >>> it was more important to me to have it available at the same time to the >>> blind and print-disabled. The Authors Guild apparently does not care about >>> such access, despite the fact that they would actually get money from us.) >>> >>> I would happily go to the movies more and happily purchase audio-described >>> movies through iTunes if they were available. Even movies which are >>> released with audio description are not always sold through movie resellers >>> -- goodness knows I have tried. To date, I have only located The Incredible >>> Hulk, from 2008, which I purchased for my son. >>> Even Apple could do more. It could strengthen its requirements for apps. It >>> has provided developers with the means to make their apps VoiceOver >>> accessible, and there are plenty of apps out there which could be so. Only >>> apps that are visual by their very nature should be exempted. But, as >>> usual, profit trumps people, despite the fact that the disabled community >>> rewards those who remember us with our business. >>> Frankly, I would prefer to purchase the audio-described movies and shows I >>> download from the vault, so that I could watch them with sighted friends >>> and family. I wish I could show a film to a class and not have to ask my >>> para or a student to tell me what is going on. The entertainment industry >>> gets plenty of my money. If they want more, they should remember that I >>> deserve to be able to access their material independently. OK. Topic over. >>> Th
Re: mail weirdness
Hi Steve, You can tell Apple mail to use the gmail trash mailbox instead of its trash mailbox. Here is a link to a TidBits article which will show you how to configure apple mail to work with gmail's imap implementation. Gmail has changed some since the article was written but you should be able to figure it out. http://tidbits.com/article/10253 Robert Carter On Apr 28, 2012, at 9:12 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: > When I went into gmail settings, I could not find anything to enable > immediate deletion of messages. I recall some time ago when there was an > option in Google Labs supporting an option to make gmail's IMAP emulation > work like normal IMAP servers but I haven't heard anything more on this since > then. > > In the mean time, the messages I delete with the delete key are now placing > messages into a folder called Deleted messages. I guess I will have to go > this route for now and use Mutt email client to go in and move them all over > to [Gmail]/Trash from time to time. Or just go back to moving them to Trash > manually each time I wish to delete stuff. Frankly, the the delete function > in Apple Mail for Lion is not doing the job the way I want it to. It might > work well for POP or standard IMAP but not for gmail IMAP. > > On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:00 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > >> Hello Caitlyn et al, >> >> I read your message very carefully. >> >> Currently, I have several G Mail iMap accounts that I access with Apple >> Mail. I have no problems at all in deleting messages from any of them; I >> have re-installed Lion several times since its release without having ever >> experienced the problem you and others are currently reporting. >> >> When I wish to delete a message from either a conversation or the delete the >> entire thread, in Standard view, I simply press the BackSpace key on the >> keyboard. >> >> Now, before exiting Mail, I use the key combo Command+Shift+Backspace in >> order to empty the messages currently marked for deletion. I answer yes, in >> the confirmation Dialog box and they are permanently deleted. >> >> Now you may be saying, "Yes, Mark, I do this as well yet it does not work." >> To which I will reply, I understand. >> >> The problem is that there is a setting that must be configured from within >> your G Mail account, itself, on the web to enable the client to have access >> in order to permanently delete the mail. >> >> It's been a while since I set this up but, go to your G Mail web account. >> Somewhere in the Options, you will see something that reads like "Delete >> Messages Immediately". This will be unchecked. You must place a checkmark >> in this option. Then, if all goes well and "the water don't rise," as the >> saying goes (smile) you should be in business. >> >> While you're in that area of your G Mail account, review all of the message >> options in case I am, most likely, forgetting something else. >> >> One more thing, I have my G Mail account setup so that, when using either >> Apple Mail or Microsoft Outlook, I can quickly and easily undelete any >> message marked for deletion (before the purge), by using key-combo Command+Z >> on the Mac or Control+Z in Windows 7. If you would like to know how to >> configure this for your G Mail account, check out episode 70 of the Candle >> Shore podcast. >> >> Good Luck, >> >> Mark >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness >> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 11:08 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Cc: Caitlyn Furness >> Subject: mail weirdness >> >> Hi, >> >> I hope somebody has some suggestions about my mail problem. >> >> After a reinstall of Lion a couple weeks ago, I of course had to reinput my >> mail account. I am using my gmail account. Now,, mail isn't deleting my >> messages after I read them. The next time I reopen mail, the same messages >> are back again! >> >> In mail preferences, I have it set to delete the trash when quitting mail, >> and to not leave things on the server. >> >> What am I doing wrong? >> >> Before I had to reinstall Lion, my gamil account didn't act like this! >> >> thanks, >> Caitlyn >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/g
Re: mail app?
Hi 1&All, As no one has mentioned them I sure hope, "Mail App" hasn't dropped; Command1 "In mailbox" Command2 "Out mailbox" Command3 "Drafts mailbox" Command4 "Sent mailbox" Command5 "Trash mailbox" Command6 "Junk mailbox" as I find these "shortcuts" great for quick switching between boxes. Stan ZA amista...@gmail.com On 29 Apr 2012, at 1:00 PM, Alex Hall wrote: Ok, vo-j works even better, thanks for the correction. Now, let's hope they don't break it again as I recall happening in an previous update... On 29 Apr 2012, at 00:29, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: qQuick commeh Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most online stores. Sent from my phone On Apr 28, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Alex Hall wrote: Okay, thanks. I'll try vo-j, but I figured out I can just hit enter to read the message, then cmd-w the window when I'm done. Still not too elegant, but better than arrowing all over the place. I think I'll stick to the normal view, since I get a great deal of messages from mailing lists and i would hate to not have things grouped by conversation. On 28 Apr 2012, at 22:26, Henry D. Hollithron wrote: Good Day: I've put the answers to your questions, at least as much as I know of them, in the extract from your original message below. Since I've only used Mac OS Lion, though, someone else might have additional information. At any rate, here goes. HTH: Henry Education never ends. It is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last. Sherlock Homes On 28 Apr 2012, at 15:32, Alex Hall wrote: 1. I deleted a message, but vo said nothing and I was jumped to the bottom of the mail list. What happened? Your message was moved to the trash mailbox. I don't know if you have your messages column sorted from oldest to newest or not, but that might be why you're moved to the bottom of the message list. If you want to make sure that you have actually deleted all the messages you didn't want to keep, you can, of course, look at the trash mailbox. There is a favorites bar at the top of the window, but I prefer to go to the view menu and choose the "show mailbox list' option. Both are accessible, but I don't know how you would go about adding a mailbox to the favorites bar, which, as I understand, allows you to switch to a mailbox with a single keystroke. 2. Why can I not quickly read messages? I tried cmd-j and tab, but nothing happened, yet a new message appeared in a conversation as though I had just read the oldest one, though I had not. I can hit the "stop interacting" keystroke twice, then vo-right a few times and interact, but there has to be a better way. The keystroke to jump to the preview pane is VO-J. Command J, I think, marks the message as junk, though I'm not quite certain on that point, since it doesn't show up in the menus to my knowledge. 3. I hear a lot about "classic view". What is it, and should I switch to it? What advantages does the normal view offer over the classic? The new view introduced into Lion is very similar to the view of messages you might get on the GMAIL website, that is, messages with the same subject are grouped into conversations, which you can expand. The classic view, in contrast, displays all the messages in a larger list, with columns containing the information (date, from, subject, etc.) of the message, rather like you might see with KeyMail on a BrailleNote. Both views are accessible, so most people recommend experimenting with them and seeing which one you prefer. The option, as you probably already know, is in the View menu with the name "Organize by Conversation". -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received th
Re: mail app?
Good Day: The Favorites bar is the item which offers this functionality in the Mail app for Lion. I checked, and it has, in order from left to write, InBox, Sent and Drafts. As you might expect, you press command-1 to go to the InBox, Command 2 to go to the Sent mailbox, and Command-3 to go to the Drafts mailbox. There is a way to move a mailbox to the favorites bar, but I don't know it. Anyway, if you put a mailbox to the right of the Drafts mailbox, then it can be accessed with Command-4. Perhaps someone who actually makes use of the favorites bar could give you more information. HTH: Henry Education never ends. It is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the last. Sherlock Homes On 29 Apr 2012, at 09:48, Stan wrote: > Hi 1&All, > As no one has mentioned them I sure hope, "Mail App" hasn't dropped; > Command1 "In mailbox" > Command2 "Out mailbox" > Command3 "Drafts mailbox" > Command4 "Sent mailbox" > Command5 "Trash mailbox" > Command6 "Junk mailbox" > as I find these "shortcuts" great for quick switching between boxes. > > Stan ZA > amista...@gmail.com > > On 29 Apr 2012, at 1:00 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > >> Ok, vo-j works even better, thanks for the correction. Now, let's hope they >> don't break it again as I recall happening in an previous update... >> On 29 Apr 2012, at 00:29, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: >> >>> qQuick commeh >>> >>> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most online >>> stores. >>> Sent from my phone >>> >>> On Apr 28, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>> Okay, thanks. I'll try vo-j, but I figured out I can just hit enter to read the message, then cmd-w the window when I'm done. Still not too elegant, but better than arrowing all over the place. I think I'll stick to the normal view, since I get a great deal of messages from mailing lists and i would hate to not have things grouped by conversation. On 28 Apr 2012, at 22:26, Henry D. Hollithron wrote: > Good Day: >> > > I've put the answers to your questions, at least as much as I know of > them, in the extract from your original message below. Since I've only > used Mac OS Lion, though, someone else might have additional information. > At any rate, here goes. > > HTH: > Henry > > Education never ends. It is a series of lessons, with the greatest for > the last. > Sherlock Homes > > On 28 Apr 2012, at 15:32, Alex Hall wrote: > >> 1. I deleted a message, but vo said nothing and I was jumped to the >> bottom of the mail list. What happened? > Your message was moved to the trash mailbox. I don't know if you have > your messages column sorted from oldest to newest or not, but that might > be why you're moved to the bottom of the message list. If you want to > make sure that you have actually deleted all the messages you didn't want > to keep, you can, of course, look at the trash mailbox. There is a > favorites bar at the top of the window, but I prefer to go to the view > menu and choose the "show mailbox list' option. Both are accessible, but > I don't know how you would go about adding a mailbox to the favorites > bar, which, as I understand, allows you to switch to a mailbox with a > single keystroke. > >> 2. Why can I not quickly read messages? I tried cmd-j and tab, but >> nothing happened, yet a new message appeared in a conversation as though >> I had just read the oldest one, though I had not. I can hit the "stop >> interacting" keystroke twice, then vo-right a few times and interact, >> but there has to be a better way. > The keystroke to jump to the preview pane is VO-J. Command J, I think, > marks the message as junk, though I'm not quite certain on that point, > since it doesn't show up in the menus to my knowledge. >> 3. I hear a lot about "classic view". What is it, and should I switch to >> it? What advantages does the normal view offer over the classic? > The new view introduced into Lion is very similar to the view of > messages you might get on the GMAIL website, that is, messages with the > same subject are grouped into conversations, which you can expand. The > classic view, in contrast, displays all the messages in a larger list, > with columns containing the information (date, from, subject, etc.) of > the message, rather like you might see with KeyMail on a BrailleNote. > Both views are accessible, so most people recommend experimenting with > them and seeing which one you prefer. The option, as you probably already > know, is in the View menu with the name "Organize by Conversation". > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.co
Re: mail weirdness
Actually, it doesn't work as it should for pop mail either. In mail preferences, I have checked the option to have erased mail deleted when I quit mail. It has done this once. Most of the time, when I finish going through my Email, I have to just do the Shif-command-delete to get the trash emptied. And I know plenty of people who think that Apple has broken many things in Mail with version 5, and not just VO-related stuff either. Veronica Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs Santa Cruz, California Phone: 831-429-6407 On Apr 28, 2012, at 9:12 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: > When I went into gmail settings, I could not find anything to enable > immediate deletion of messages. I recall some time ago when there was an > option in Google Labs supporting an option to make gmail's IMAP emulation > work like normal IMAP servers but I haven't heard anything more on this since > then. > > In the mean time, the messages I delete with the delete key are now placing > messages into a folder called Deleted messages. I guess I will have to go > this route for now and use Mutt email client to go in and move them all over > to [Gmail]/Trash from time to time. Or just go back to moving them to Trash > manually each time I wish to delete stuff. Frankly, the the delete function > in Apple Mail for Lion is not doing the job the way I want it to. It might > work well for POP or standard IMAP but not for gmail IMAP. > > On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:00 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > >> Hello Caitlyn et al, >> >> I read your message very carefully. >> >> Currently, I have several G Mail iMap accounts that I access with Apple >> Mail. I have no problems at all in deleting messages from any of them; I >> have re-installed Lion several times since its release without having ever >> experienced the problem you and others are currently reporting. >> >> When I wish to delete a message from either a conversation or the delete the >> entire thread, in Standard view, I simply press the BackSpace key on the >> keyboard. >> >> Now, before exiting Mail, I use the key combo Command+Shift+Backspace in >> order to empty the messages currently marked for deletion. I answer yes, in >> the confirmation Dialog box and they are permanently deleted. >> >> Now you may be saying, "Yes, Mark, I do this as well yet it does not work." >> To which I will reply, I understand. >> >> The problem is that there is a setting that must be configured from within >> your G Mail account, itself, on the web to enable the client to have access >> in order to permanently delete the mail. >> >> It's been a while since I set this up but, go to your G Mail web account. >> Somewhere in the Options, you will see something that reads like "Delete >> Messages Immediately". This will be unchecked. You must place a checkmark >> in this option. Then, if all goes well and "the water don't rise," as the >> saying goes (smile) you should be in business. >> >> While you're in that area of your G Mail account, review all of the message >> options in case I am, most likely, forgetting something else. >> >> One more thing, I have my G Mail account setup so that, when using either >> Apple Mail or Microsoft Outlook, I can quickly and easily undelete any >> message marked for deletion (before the purge), by using key-combo Command+Z >> on the Mac or Control+Z in Windows 7. If you would like to know how to >> configure this for your G Mail account, check out episode 70 of the Candle >> Shore podcast. >> >> Good Luck, >> >> Mark >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness >> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 11:08 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Cc: Caitlyn Furness >> Subject: mail weirdness >> >> Hi, >> >> I hope somebody has some suggestions about my mail problem. >> >> After a reinstall of Lion a couple weeks ago, I of course had to reinput my >> mail account. I am using my gmail account. Now,, mail isn't deleting my >> messages after I read them. The next time I reopen mail, the same messages >> are back again! >> >> In mail preferences, I have it set to delete the trash when quitting mail, >> and to not leave things on the server. >> >> What am I doing wrong? >> >> Before I had to reinstall Lion, my gamil account didn't act like this! >> >> thanks, >> Caitlyn >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.goog
Re: blindmicemegamall movie vault and illegal file-sharing allegation
There was a protest and a petition, and call for a class action suit. What the Authors' Guild is doing is relying on a copyright law which says that the "reading" of a book is not the same as the print -- therefore the Kindle would be "violating" the "performance violation" -- in other words, the synthesized voice is compared to a human narrator, and therefore the price should reflect this, as in audible.com. It's actually an argument which might stand up in court, so the efforts have been relegated to changing legislation to prevent the argument from being utilized in this instance, and fighting universities and other institutions which are using Kindles, and which therefore leave the print-disabled out. Of course, this is just as expensive and probably will take just as long, and doesn't generate as much public attention. I myself have never participated in a class action suit, and since I work full-time teaching, it would be difficult for me personally to coordinate such an effort. But it irks me tremendously that the disabled rights organizations here, including the two major voices in rights of the blind, are not doing more about this. It is a tremendous, aggravating thorn in the sides of those of us who would like to utilize a Kindle with the same degree of freedom as the rest of the public who can read the printed screen. Another problem is that there are so many other issues now, economically and educationally, that this fight will get lost amid the tumult. I intend to try to revisit this issue with others after the 2012 Presidential election has been decided. Christine On Apr 29, 2012, at 8:24 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: > Hi Christine > > > Why don't you initiate a class action against the Authors gill so to level > the playing ground for accessible books. Your not the first or only person I > have seen on different lists complain about the Author gill. I just don't see > anyone in the USA doing anything about it. So they get away with it. > > Only I wished that I lived there. I would then be able to do something. > > > Sean > > On 28/04/2012, at 10:36 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: > >> With all due respect, Scott, laws which disparately impact certain groups or >> classes of people have been flouted through civil disobedience since the >> introduction of legal systems, e.g., civil rights, disability rights, >> employment rights, etc. The United States might not exist were it not for >> disobeying laws. >> I am an attorney, and it continues to amaze me how slowly the U.S. is moving >> to accommodate disability, and how snail-paced the societal shift in >> attitudes toward us has been. and it seems that whenever a company like >> Apple makes great strides in accommodating blindness off the shelf, plenty >> of other technologies come along and do not bother to incorporate us into >> their equation. So many educational apps, for example, are not accessible, >> though they could be, and given the push now to have iPads in classrooms, >> once again blind, visually impaired, and otherwise print-disabled students >> will be left out. Apple moves us two steps forward, and "progress" (for >> others) moves us three steps back. I should be able to turn on a television, >> flip a switch, or turn on a transmitter, and get descriptions. I should be >> able to access books on the Nook or the Kindle, not just iBooks. I cannot >> express, and I am sure others here agree, the happiness I feel when a new >> release or best-selling publication is available on iBooks. >> (Incidentally, if a book is available on iBooks and on bookshare.org, I >> purchase the book. Yet, I have lost quite a lot of money as a published >> author -- as soon as my book was published, I sent a copy to bookshare.org; >> it was more important to me to have it available at the same time to the >> blind and print-disabled. The Authors Guild apparently does not care about >> such access, despite the fact that they would actually get money from us.) >> >> I would happily go to the movies more and happily purchase audio-described >> movies through iTunes if they were available. Even movies which are released >> with audio description are not always sold through movie resellers -- >> goodness knows I have tried. To date, I have only located The Incredible >> Hulk, from 2008, which I purchased for my son. >> Even Apple could do more. It could strengthen its requirements for apps. It >> has provided developers with the means to make their apps VoiceOver >> accessible, and there are plenty of apps out there which could be so. Only >> apps that are visual by their very nature should be exempted. But, as usual, >> profit trumps people, despite the fact that the disabled community rewards >> those who remember us with our business. >> Frankly, I would prefer to purchase the audio-described movies and shows I >> download from the vault, so that I could watch them with sighted friends and >>
Re: A question about Dashboard
There should be a, more info, button if you navigate through the widget. This is usually how you change settings for a widget. For example, with the Weather Widget, the more info button will allow you to enter a city or postal code to change the location for the weather report. In the ESPN app, the, info, button will enable you to change sports. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Apr 29, 2012, at 7:08 AM, Rahul Bajaj wrote: > Hi all, > > In Dashboard, how can I change the sport from Hockey to something else in > ESPN or the name of the city for checking the weather? > Basically, how can I change the default settings? > > Your help would be much appreciated. > > Cheers, > Rahul > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: time machine?
Are you selecting the most recent backup or a specific date. I've never restored from a network drive, but you might have to wait a bit for the drive to mount. Network Time Machine backups are stored in Sparse Bundles, which are special disk images. So, the image has to mount, and if it's a large image, it might take a bit before it is available. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Apr 29, 2012, at 12:00 AM, Kliphton wrote: > Okay, I created a time machine backup on an network attached storage, and I’m > trying to restore from there. It let’s me get to the point where I choose > where the back up is, but won’t let me select it. My fault, it let’s me > select it, but when it tells me to connect now to the storage device, it says > dimmed. What am I doing wrong? > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
disclosure triangles?
Hi all, As I go through mail messages, and sometimes in other places, I hear 'disclosure triangle". What is this, how do I use it, and how do I get at the information I imagine it provides when activated? Thanks. As you probably figured, I am using the mac more now that it runs well (amazing what a monitor will do) so I'll have a lot of questions as I learn and, in some cases, re-learn parts of this system. Thanks for your patience! Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Someone instant messaged me in skype, but I don't know how to find the message
Hi, As the subject says, I heard the chirp of an instant message coming from someone, but I can't read it cause I don't know how. Any help would be appreciated. Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: disclosure triangles?
when you hear the words "disclosure triangle" this is an icon representing that a folder has sub folders. as an example, if you're in mail and you have a directory like "G-MAIL", this contains sub directories such as sent and deleted items, etc. interacting with this component is like any other. interact then VO + space to open the sub directories. I hope this helps. lew On 29 Apr 2012, at 17:43, Alex Hall wrote: > Hi all, > As I go through mail messages, and sometimes in other places, I hear > 'disclosure triangle". What is this, how do I use it, and how do I get at the > information I imagine it provides when activated? Thanks. As you probably > figured, I am using the mac more now that it runs well (amazing what a > monitor will do) so I'll have a lot of questions as I learn and, in some > cases, re-learn parts of this system. Thanks for your patience! > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: disclosure triangles?
Disclosure triangles are a way to hide or reveal extra info or options. If the disclosure triangle is collapsed, the extra options are hidden and if it is expanded they are displayed. Press VO+Space to toggle a disclosure triangle. In mail, expanding a disclosure triangle shows the list of messages in a thread. These can also be expanded and collapsed with the right and left arrow keys. HTH, Greg On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > Hi all, > As I go through mail messages, and sometimes in other places, I hear > 'disclosure triangle". What is this, how do I use it, and how do I get at the > information I imagine it provides when activated? Thanks. As you probably > figured, I am using the mac more now that it runs well (amazing what a > monitor will do) so I'll have a lot of questions as I learn and, in some > cases, re-learn parts of this system. Thanks for your patience! > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Someone instant messaged me in skype, but I don't know how to find the message
This requires some navigation. You have to first have the contact name selected before you have to use the VO and right arrow keys to navigate until you find the scroll area that has the chat history. There is also an edit field to type responses and you just use the enter key to send. It sounds a little complicated, but it is not once you go through the process. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Apr 29, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: > Hi, > > As the subject says, I heard the chirp of an instant message coming from > someone, but I can't read it cause I don't know how. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Jenny > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Someone instant messaged me in skype, but I don't know how to find the message
Interact with the table immediately below the tool bar. As you VO up or down arrow through it, you'll hear the names of people you've had recent Skype activity with, and one of them will say "one missed event." Be careful, because it won't say it again if you scroll back over that contact. (this is a bug in Skype I wish would get fixed; that the "missed event," alert would stay up until you actually found out what the event was). • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Someone instant messaged me in skype, but I don't know how to find the message
OK, this may sound a little stupid, but how do you know who chatted you then. I don't know who chatted me, so I don't know which contact to pick. thanks for your help. Jenny On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:51 AM, John Panarese wrote: > This requires some navigation. You have to first have the contact name > selected before you have to use the VO and right arrow keys to navigate until > you find the scroll area that has the chat history. There is also an edit > field to type responses and you just use the enter key to send. It sounds a > little complicated, but it is not once you go through the process. > > Take Care > > John Panarese > jpanar...@gmail.com > > > > On Apr 29, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> As the subject says, I heard the chirp of an instant message coming from >> someone, but I can't read it cause I don't know how. >> >> Any help would be appreciated. >> >> Jenny >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: inserting files into the body of an email
Hi, to add an attachment to an e-mail, open the e-mail and press command shift A to bring up the filed browser. Find the file and press enter and it will be attached. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: > Hi all, > I've reported this to apple accessibility. > Anyway, on to my question. > If I've created a signature file in text edit, and I want to put it into my > message is there a way to insert a file into a message? > Apple accessibility says that there's a bug in SnowLeopard that causes mail > to get stuck when creating a signature in preferences. This is what happens > with me. > Each time I've created a signature I get mail busy until I force quit the app. > This is why I was wondering if there's a way to insert files from text edit > into an email message. > Thanks, > Blessings, > Stacey and Geb dog Chesley > stacey...@bellsouth.net > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: inserting files into the body of an email
Ricardo, I don't want to attach. I want to insert text directly in to my message. On Apr 29, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > to add an attachment to an e-mail, open the e-mail and press command shift A > to bring up the filed browser. Find the file and press enter and it will be > attached. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: > >> Hi all, >> I've reported this to apple accessibility. >> Anyway, on to my question. >> If I've created a signature file in text edit, and I want to put it into my >> message is there a way to insert a file into a message? >> Apple accessibility says that there's a bug in SnowLeopard that causes mail >> to get stuck when creating a signature in preferences. This is what happens >> with me. >> Each time I've created a signature I get mail busy until I force quit the >> app. >> This is why I was wondering if there's a way to insert files from text edit >> into an email message. >> Thanks, >> Blessings, >> Stacey and Geb dog Chesley >> stacey...@bellsouth.net >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: inserting files into the body of an email
Oh. just copy and paste then. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:16 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: > Ricardo, I don't want to attach. > I want to insert text directly in to my message. > > On Apr 29, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> to add an attachment to an e-mail, open the e-mail and press command shift A >> to bring up the filed browser. Find the file and press enter and it will be >> attached. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> I've reported this to apple accessibility. >>> Anyway, on to my question. >>> If I've created a signature file in text edit, and I want to put it into my >>> message is there a way to insert a file into a message? >>> Apple accessibility says that there's a bug in SnowLeopard that causes mail >>> to get stuck when creating a signature in preferences. This is what happens >>> with me. >>> Each time I've created a signature I get mail busy until I force quit the >>> app. >>> This is why I was wondering if there's a way to insert files from text edit >>> into an email message. >>> Thanks, >>> Blessings, >>> Stacey and Geb dog Chesley >>> stacey...@bellsouth.net >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: inserting files into the body of an email
Oh, that's simple enough. Thanks, Blessings, Stacey and Geb dog Chesley stacey...@bellsouth.net On Apr 29, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Oh. > > just copy and paste then. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:16 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: > >> Ricardo, I don't want to attach. >> I want to insert text directly in to my message. >> >> On Apr 29, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> to add an attachment to an e-mail, open the e-mail and press command shift >>> A to bring up the filed browser. Find the file and press enter and it will >>> be attached. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Stacey Robinson >>> wrote: >>> Hi all, I've reported this to apple accessibility. Anyway, on to my question. If I've created a signature file in text edit, and I want to put it into my message is there a way to insert a file into a message? Apple accessibility says that there's a bug in SnowLeopard that causes mail to get stuck when creating a signature in preferences. This is what happens with me. Each time I've created a signature I get mail busy until I force quit the app. This is why I was wondering if there's a way to insert files from text edit into an email message. Thanks, Blessings, Stacey and Geb dog Chesley stacey...@bellsouth.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mail app?
Hi, I actually did a podcast that covers this. You can find it here http://www.appletothecore.info/2012/01/apple-to-core-episode-3.html hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Apr 29, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Henry D. Hollithron wrote: > Good Day: > > The Favorites bar is the item which offers this functionality in the > Mail app for Lion. I checked, and it has, in order from left to write, InBox, > Sent and Drafts. As you might expect, you press command-1 to go to the InBox, > Command 2 to go to the Sent mailbox, and Command-3 to go to the Drafts > mailbox. There is a way to move a mailbox to the favorites bar, but I don't > know it. Anyway, if you put a mailbox to the right of the Drafts mailbox, > then it can be accessed with Command-4. Perhaps someone who actually makes > use of the favorites bar could give you more information. > > HTH: > Henry > > Education never ends. It is a series of lessons, with the greatest for the > last. > Sherlock Homes > > On 29 Apr 2012, at 09:48, Stan wrote: > >> Hi 1&All, >> As no one has mentioned them I sure hope, "Mail App" hasn't dropped; >> Command1 "In mailbox" >> Command2 "Out mailbox" >> Command3 "Drafts mailbox" >> Command4 "Sent mailbox" >> Command5 "Trash mailbox" >> Command6 "Junk mailbox" >> as I find these "shortcuts" great for quick switching between boxes. >> >> Stan ZA >> amista...@gmail.com >> >> On 29 Apr 2012, at 1:00 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >> >>> Ok, vo-j works even better, thanks for the correction. Now, let's hope they >>> don't break it again as I recall happening in an previous update... >>> On 29 Apr 2012, at 00:29, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: >>> qQuick commeh Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com, on iTunes or most online stores. Sent from my phone On Apr 28, 2012, at 10:30 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > Okay, thanks. I'll try vo-j, but I figured out I can just hit enter to > read the message, then cmd-w the window when I'm done. Still not too > elegant, but better than arrowing all over the place. I think I'll stick > to the normal view, since I get a great deal of messages from mailing > lists and i would hate to not have things grouped by conversation. > On 28 Apr 2012, at 22:26, Henry D. Hollithron wrote: > >> Good Day: >>> >> I've put the answers to your questions, at least as much as I know of >> them, in the extract from your original message below. Since I've only >> used Mac OS Lion, though, someone else might have additional >> information. At any rate, here goes. >> >> HTH: >> Henry >> >> Education never ends. It is a series of lessons, with the greatest for >> the last. >> Sherlock Homes >> >> On 28 Apr 2012, at 15:32, Alex Hall wrote: >> >>> 1. I deleted a message, but vo said nothing and I was jumped to the >>> bottom of the mail list. What happened? >> Your message was moved to the trash mailbox. I don't know if you have >> your messages column sorted from oldest to newest or not, but that might >> be why you're moved to the bottom of the message list. If you want to >> make sure that you have actually deleted all the messages you didn't >> want to keep, you can, of course, look at the trash mailbox. There is a >> favorites bar at the top of the window, but I prefer to go to the view >> menu and choose the "show mailbox list' option. Both are accessible, but >> I don't know how you would go about adding a mailbox to the favorites >> bar, which, as I understand, allows you to switch to a mailbox with a >> single keystroke. >> >>> 2. Why can I not quickly read messages? I tried cmd-j and tab, but >>> nothing happened, yet a new message appeared in a conversation as >>> though I had just read the oldest one, though I had not. I can hit the >>> "stop interacting" keystroke twice, then vo-right a few times and >>> interact, but there has to be a better way. >> The keystroke to jump to the preview pane is VO-J. Command J, I think, >> marks the message as junk, though I'm not quite certain on that point, >> since it doesn't show up in the menus to my knowledge. >>> 3. I hear a lot about "classic view". What is it, and should I switch >>> to it? What advantages does the normal view offer over the classic? >> The new view introduced into Lion is very similar to the view of >> messages you might get on the GMAIL website, that is, messages with the >> same subject are grouped into conversations, which you can expand. The >> classic view, in contrast, displays all the messages in a larger list, >> with columns containing the information (date, from, subject, etc.) of >> the message, rather like you might see with KeyMail on a BrailleNote. >> Both views are accessible
Re: Screen locking issue
Hi, go to system preferences/security & privacy. Under the general tab, uncheck Require password after sleep or screen saver Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Apr 29, 2012, at 8:46 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: > Hi all. > > > How do you stop the Mac from locking the screen? I cannot see the option in > the preferences. If I don't use the computer for about 5 to 15 minutes. The > screen locks requiring the password again. > > > Also, how do you put it into screen lock when you want too? > > Sean > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: time machine?
I figured out why it wasn't letting me select it. But another question is, if I want to load from a DVD in my optical drive, at what point do I hold down the letter c? On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:00 AM, John Panarese wrote: >Are you selecting the most recent backup or a specific date. I've never > restored from a network drive, but you might have to wait a bit for the drive > to mount. Network Time Machine backups are stored in Sparse Bundles, which > are special disk images. So, the image has to mount, and if it's a large > image, it might take a bit before it is available. > > Take Care > > John Panarese > jpanar...@gmail.com > > > > On Apr 29, 2012, at 12:00 AM, Kliphton wrote: > >> Okay, I created a time machine backup on an network attached storage, and >> I’m trying to restore from there. It let’s me get to the point where I >> choose where the back up is, but won’t let me select it. My fault, it let’s >> me select it, but when it tells me to connect now to the storage device, it >> says dimmed. What am I doing wrong? >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email >> tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: time machine?
Right when you both the system. Just keep the C key down until you hear the optical drive begin to spin up. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:42 PM, Kliphton wrote: > I figured out why it wasn't letting me select it. But another question is, > if I want to load from a DVD in my optical drive, at what point do I hold > down the letter c? > On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:00 AM, John Panarese wrote: > >> Are you selecting the most recent backup or a specific date. I've never >> restored from a network drive, but you might have to wait a bit for the >> drive to mount. Network Time Machine backups are stored in Sparse Bundles, >> which are special disk images. So, the image has to mount, and if it's a >> large image, it might take a bit before it is available. >> >> Take Care >> >> John Panarese >> jpanar...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> On Apr 29, 2012, at 12:00 AM, Kliphton wrote: >> >>> Okay, I created a time machine backup on an network attached storage, and >>> I’m trying to restore from there. It let’s me get to the point where I >>> choose where the back up is, but won’t let me select it. My fault, it >>> let’s me select it, but when it tells me to connect now to the storage >>> device, it says dimmed. What am I doing wrong? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email >>> tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: blindmicemegamall movie vault and illegal file-sharing allegation
Another thing that makes the argument comparing synthesized speech with human speech totally fallacious is that when a device offers synthesized speech such as with an iPad, one can use a Braille display and actually read the book rather than listen to it. We are denied that opportunity if we can only rely on human read materials or use a crippling device like the Kindle Fire. On Apr 29, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: > There was a protest and a petition, and call for a class action suit. What > the Authors' Guild is doing is relying on a copyright law which says that the > "reading" of a book is not the same as the print -- therefore the Kindle > would be "violating" the "performance violation" -- in other words, the > synthesized voice is compared to a human narrator, and therefore the price > should reflect this, as in audible.com. It's actually an argument which might > stand up in court, so the efforts have been relegated to changing legislation > to prevent the argument from being utilized in this instance, and fighting > universities and other institutions which are using Kindles, and which > therefore leave the print-disabled out. Of course, this is just as expensive > and probably will take just as long, and doesn't generate as much public > attention. > I myself have never participated in a class action suit, and since I work > full-time teaching, it would be difficult for me personally to coordinate > such an effort. But it irks me tremendously that the disabled rights > organizations here, including the two major voices in rights of the blind, > are not doing more about this. It is a tremendous, aggravating thorn in the > sides of those of us who would like to utilize a Kindle with the same degree > of freedom as the rest of the public who can read the printed screen. > Another problem is that there are so many other issues now, economically and > educationally, that this fight will get lost amid the tumult. I intend to > try to revisit this issue with others after the 2012 Presidential election > has been decided. > Christine > On Apr 29, 2012, at 8:24 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: > >> Hi Christine >> >> >> Why don't you initiate a class action against the Authors gill so to level >> the playing ground for accessible books. Your not the first or only person I >> have seen on different lists complain about the Author gill. I just don't >> see anyone in the USA doing anything about it. So they get away with it. >> >> Only I wished that I lived there. I would then be able to do something. >> >> >> Sean >> >> On 28/04/2012, at 10:36 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: >> >>> With all due respect, Scott, laws which disparately impact certain groups >>> or classes of people have been flouted through civil disobedience since the >>> introduction of legal systems, e.g., civil rights, disability rights, >>> employment rights, etc. The United States might not exist were it not for >>> disobeying laws. >>> I am an attorney, and it continues to amaze me how slowly the U.S. is >>> moving to accommodate disability, and how snail-paced the societal shift in >>> attitudes toward us has been. and it seems that whenever a company like >>> Apple makes great strides in accommodating blindness off the shelf, plenty >>> of other technologies come along and do not bother to incorporate us into >>> their equation. So many educational apps, for example, are not accessible, >>> though they could be, and given the push now to have iPads in classrooms, >>> once again blind, visually impaired, and otherwise print-disabled students >>> will be left out. Apple moves us two steps forward, and "progress" (for >>> others) moves us three steps back. I should be able to turn on a >>> television, flip a switch, or turn on a transmitter, and get descriptions. >>> I should be able to access books on the Nook or the Kindle, not just >>> iBooks. I cannot express, and I am sure others here agree, the happiness I >>> feel when a new release or best-selling publication is available on iBooks. >>> (Incidentally, if a book is available on iBooks and on bookshare.org, I >>> purchase the book. Yet, I have lost quite a lot of money as a published >>> author -- as soon as my book was published, I sent a copy to bookshare.org; >>> it was more important to me to have it available at the same time to the >>> blind and print-disabled. The Authors Guild apparently does not care about >>> such access, despite the fact that they would actually get money from us.) >>> >>> I would happily go to the movies more and happily purchase audio-described >>> movies through iTunes if they were available. Even movies which are >>> released with audio description are not always sold through movie resellers >>> -- goodness knows I have tried. To date, I have only located The Incredible >>> Hulk, from 2008, which I purchased for my son. >>> Even Apple could do more. It could strengthen its requir
Re: Someone instant messaged me in skype, but I don't know how to find the message
Hi there! Well if you found the person with the guide from the other message then a little tip for you to hold a I M chat! If when your on the person you wish to chat with! 1, find the html in there profile and interact with it! 2, Arrow down through all the stuff until you get to there message [or the last message] they have sent you! 3, When you have arrowed through that message and wish to respond then just turn off cursor tracking with the command [VO+shift+f3] then just start typing your response and when your ready just press enter! 4, When you do this you will find yourself back at the end of there last message and you just have to arrow through the message you have just sent and wait for there reply! 5, Keep on this way until you've finished chatting! 6, When your done remember to turn cursor tracking back on with the same command you used to turn it off! 7, Then you can close that chat with command+W hth Colin On 29 Apr 2012, at 17:55, Jenny Keller wrote: > OK, this may sound a little stupid, but how do you know who chatted you then. > I don't know who chatted me, so I don't know which contact to pick. > > thanks for your help. > > Jenny > On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:51 AM, John Panarese wrote: > >> This requires some navigation. You have to first have the contact name >> selected before you have to use the VO and right arrow keys to navigate >> until you find the scroll area that has the chat history. There is also an >> edit field to type responses and you just use the enter key to send. It >> sounds a little complicated, but it is not once you go through the process. >> >> Take Care >> >> John Panarese >> jpanar...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> On Apr 29, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> As the subject says, I heard the chirp of an instant message coming from >>> someone, but I can't read it cause I don't know how. >>> >>> Any help would be appreciated. >>> >>> Jenny >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Someone instant messaged me in skype, but I don't know how to find the message
No, I still don't know who it was that instant messaged me, so I'm still at the beginning of the problem. Jenny On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Red.Falcon wrote: > Hi there! > Well if you found the person with the guide from the other message then a > little tip for you to hold a I M chat! > > If when your on the person you wish to chat with! > 1, find the html in there profile and interact with it! > 2, Arrow down through all the stuff until you get to there message [or the > last message] they have sent you! > 3, When you have arrowed through that message and wish to respond then just > turn off cursor tracking with the command [VO+shift+f3] then just start > typing your response and when your ready just press enter! > 4, When you do this you will find yourself back at the end of there last > message and you just have to arrow through the message you have just sent and > wait for there reply! > 5, Keep on this way until you've finished chatting! > 6, When your done remember to turn cursor tracking back on with the same > command you used to turn it off! > 7, Then you can close that chat with command+W > > hth Colin > > On 29 Apr 2012, at 17:55, Jenny Keller wrote: > >> OK, this may sound a little stupid, but how do you know who chatted you >> then. I don't know who chatted me, so I don't know which contact to pick. >> >> thanks for your help. >> >> Jenny >> On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:51 AM, John Panarese wrote: >> >>>This requires some navigation. You have to first have the contact name >>> selected before you have to use the VO and right arrow keys to navigate >>> until you find the scroll area that has the chat history. There is also an >>> edit field to type responses and you just use the enter key to send. It >>> sounds a little complicated, but it is not once you go through the process. >>> >>> Take Care >>> >>> John Panarese >>> jpanar...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 29, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: >>> Hi, As the subject says, I heard the chirp of an instant message coming from someone, but I can't read it cause I don't know how. Any help would be appreciated. Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: blindmicemegamall movie vault and illegal file-sharing allegation
Oh please, they may "have to", but that doesn't mean they won't find a loop whole in order to get away with not doing it. Jenny On Apr 29, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: > Hi all. > > > AGain, how can education departments in the USA buy products when they are > not 508 rehab accessible? I thought all governments department in the USa had > to ensure the product is accessible based upon this rehab act or does this > only apply for federal? > > > There is 3 ways to change the thinking of business: > > 1. Demonstrate a market. > 2. Take them to court. Not always a good solution. > 3. Blind people develop a investment fund which invests into proactive > companies in the accessible area. > 4. Awareness education. > > > Oops, I said 3, but there is > > Sean > On 29/04/2012, at 7:24 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: > >> the issue is not the iPad itself, it is the apps that companies develop for >> it. most of those companies don't consider us much of a market (either by >> public perception or flawed fiscal analysis). there had already been one >> debacle involving a pad type computer (kindle) and a major institution >> (Arizona State University) and it was found that the blind were >> specifically locked out. the same is happening with iPad apps (even though >> the SDK tools and API are freely available and easy to incorporate, >> companies will not concede). Its a never ending struggle as those who think >> they know better never do and saddle us with their utter stupidity. there is >> a reason they call this "the tyranny of the stupid". >> >> -eric >> . >> On Apr 28, 2012, at 5:39 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> Hi Christine, >>> >>> I'm perplexed. How do you see the push to have iPads in classrooms as >>> something that leaves the blind/VI student out? If anything, I see that as >>> something that better enables us to participate, thanks to the fact that >>> Apple has made the iPad a fully accessible device. >>> Best, >>> Donna >>> On Apr 28, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: >>> With all due respect, Scott, laws which disparately impact certain groups or classes of people have been flouted through civil disobedience since the introduction of legal systems, e.g., civil rights, disability rights, employment rights, etc. The United States might not exist were it not for disobeying laws. I am an attorney, and it continues to amaze me how slowly the U.S. is moving to accommodate disability, and how snail-paced the societal shift in attitudes toward us has been. and it seems that whenever a company like Apple makes great strides in accommodating blindness off the shelf, plenty of other technologies come along and do not bother to incorporate us into their equation. So many educational apps, for example, are not accessible, though they could be, and given the push now to have iPads in classrooms, once again blind, visually impaired, and otherwise print-disabled students will be left out. Apple moves us two steps forward, and "progress" (for others) moves us three steps back. I should be able to turn on a television, flip a switch, or turn on a transmitter, and get descriptions. I should be able to access books on the Nook or the Kindle, not just iBooks. I cannot express, and I am sure others here agree, the happiness I feel when a new release or best-selling publication is available on iBooks. (Incidentally, if a book is available on iBooks and on bookshare.org, I purchase the book. Yet, I have lost quite a lot of money as a published author -- as soon as my book was published, I sent a copy to bookshare.org; it was more important to me to have it available at the same time to the blind and print-disabled. The Authors Guild apparently does not care about such access, despite the fact that they would actually get money from us.) I would happily go to the movies more and happily purchase audio-described movies through iTunes if they were available. Even movies which are released with audio description are not always sold through movie resellers -- goodness knows I have tried. To date, I have only located The Incredible Hulk, from 2008, which I purchased for my son. Even Apple could do more. It could strengthen its requirements for apps. It has provided developers with the means to make their apps VoiceOver accessible, and there are plenty of apps out there which could be so. Only apps that are visual by their very nature should be exempted. But, as usual, profit trumps people, despite the fact that the disabled community rewards those who remember us with our business. Frankly, I would prefer to purchase the audio-described movies and shows I download from the vault, so that I could watch them with sighted friends and family. I
Re: Priorities
Hi, I'm sorry for the misconceptions and inaccurate information about things for the blind in the UK. I know that I have heard, though, that in Australia, they give you the choice of computers with accessible software, but I could be wrong about that too. Here, you have to be in school or have a job to get accessible anything. the thing about that is, there are some people like me, that can't work due to other health problems, and frankly, I'm treated as though I don't need adaptive anything because I don't work. That's a crock of bull, because every blind person needs adaptive equipment. The Americans with Disabilities Act only works well for certain groups of disabled people here. It's sad, but it's good to know that America isn't the only one screwing over the blind or visually impaired. Oh by the way, the amount of money they give you to live on only provides enough for subsidized housing, which usually isn't in a safe neighborhoods and have questionable people either living in them, or around them dealing drugs, or prostituting themselves because what they make isn't enough either. If you spit out kids like bum balls with multiple fathers who don't pay child support and aren't married, you get more assistance than if you are a married disabled couple. When my husband and I got married, we are both blind, our food stamps got drastically cut. If we had just lived together, we would get more. However, it is against my religious beliefs to live together without the benefit of marriage. So much for doing the right thing. Jenny On Apr 29, 2012, at 2:03 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > Hi Jenny, I'm glad I've been listening to this thread. > > From my experience on this, Here in the UK, though there is audio description > to TV shows via new digital TV's, there still isn't a spoken user interface > to allow access to various menus, same on DVD players, recorders, etc. I've > not yet come across a single audio described DVD in my time. > > Support for blind and visually impaired people in most parts of the UK is > absolutely shocking. as an example, in education, I'm here in Wales (a > lottery win would see me leaving here as soon as possible), throughout my > education life, both visually impaired and blind, I've been let down and lied > to, given useless equipment which constantly failed, the wrong software, > extremely poor braille training, etc. the only good thing that came from it > was mobility training through RNIB instead of social services rehab > department. > > There was a point where mobility aids were free but now they're not, so I > have to pay about £300 per year on canes and tips due to high usage and > certain occasions where thugs in our area attack me destroying the cane for > "fun", so replacement canes are kept by. > > If you apply for funding, it's virtually non existent, not only that but the > rulings given have no sense nor structure. so if you need adaptive equipment, > not a chance, it's sell what you own or get into debt, that's my experience > on that matter. > > Why is it when you walk into a store and ask for help, you get a useless > person who hasn't a clue of how to assist you? I get this all the time... I > may as well appear as a muppet on the Muppet Show.. You ask to be guided and > they go without you, they say " it's over there", don't describe the items, > etc. So what's the bloomin use of them in the first place. > > Then of course the ultimate insult. to be blind and wanting to work for > companies here is a joke. Though I'm highly qualified and have all the right > requirements, because of being blind, there are 3 main areas that stop me > from working for a firm. 1: disability discrimination by the interviewer or > company, 2: Health and Safety regulations acts, 3: employer insurance costs. > > I've been in the IT game for myself for a while and don't mind it, but my > main skills are as a cabinet maker, having been trained by my grandfather who > was a master cabinet maker / carpenter. so I took on his work after his > retirement, so I'm the last in the line of the family in the trades and am > keeping that alive. I'm fine working for myself, but if I were to work for a > joinery company, they couldn't take me on for the amount of HSE red tape > nonsense. This stops us experienced folk from doing our jobs and putting us > out of work and I'm sick of it. > > I do some work with a company as a product demonstrator / endorser of their > products as I use them every day in the workshop and it's ridiculous how all > this nonsense gets in the way. > > Anyway, I also agree that here in the UK, if you're in a wheel chair, deaf, > etc you receive more support, blind and visually impaired people don't matter > and we're being ripped off with rubbish services, etc. Education is a total > mess where mainstream education should be the best option and is instead > hampered by people who cannot ca
Re: disclosure triangles?
Okay, thanks. I found that cmd-right oens threads in mail, and cmd-left closes them. VO-space brings me to some kind of menu, and left/right alone do nothing (though I have Quick Nav on, which likely explains this last). Oh, come to think of it, I didn't interact with the message first, only the messages table, so that's probably why vo-space failed. On 29 Apr 2012, at 12:47, Greg Aikens wrote: > Disclosure triangles are a way to hide or reveal extra info or options. If > the disclosure triangle is collapsed, the extra options are hidden and if it > is expanded they are displayed. Press VO+Space to toggle a disclosure > triangle. > > In mail, expanding a disclosure triangle shows the list of messages in a > thread. These can also be expanded and collapsed with the right and left > arrow keys. > > HTH, > Greg > On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > >> Hi all, >> As I go through mail messages, and sometimes in other places, I hear >> 'disclosure triangle". What is this, how do I use it, and how do I get at >> the information I imagine it provides when activated? Thanks. As you >> probably figured, I am using the mac more now that it runs well (amazing >> what a monitor will do) so I'll have a lot of questions as I learn and, in >> some cases, re-learn parts of this system. Thanks for your patience! >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: disclosure triangles?
Quick nab would explain why the arrow keys alone don't work. As for VO+space, I am only interacting with the table as well. Sometimes this works less reliably than others though. -Greg On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > Okay, thanks. I found that cmd-right oens threads in mail, and cmd-left > closes them. VO-space brings me to some kind of menu, and left/right alone do > nothing (though I have Quick Nav on, which likely explains this last). Oh, > come to think of it, I didn't interact with the message first, only the > messages table, so that's probably why vo-space failed. > On 29 Apr 2012, at 12:47, Greg Aikens wrote: > >> Disclosure triangles are a way to hide or reveal extra info or options. If >> the disclosure triangle is collapsed, the extra options are hidden and if it >> is expanded they are displayed. Press VO+Space to toggle a disclosure >> triangle. >> >> In mail, expanding a disclosure triangle shows the list of messages in a >> thread. These can also be expanded and collapsed with the right and left >> arrow keys. >> >> HTH, >> Greg >> On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> As I go through mail messages, and sometimes in other places, I hear >>> 'disclosure triangle". What is this, how do I use it, and how do I get at >>> the information I imagine it provides when activated? Thanks. As you >>> probably figured, I am using the mac more now that it runs well (amazing >>> what a monitor will do) so I'll have a lot of questions as I learn and, in >>> some cases, re-learn parts of this system. Thanks for your patience! >>> >>> >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Priorities
on the thought of the muppet show, if anyone remembers the swedish chef? I think that could be me lol. banana-nana-nanana split. lol If the UK could really improve their support systems, we'd be in a better place, HSE regulations changed or adapted, company insurance rules changed in favour of disabled people to give them equal chance. The whole purpose of the human rights act, the equality act and the disability discrimination acts is to support, in our case, disability rights and allow us to integrate into society and be treated as equals, not confined and isolated / segregated. What does this government want us to do? be locked in attics or institutions until we fade to nothing? well I'm sorry but I'm not bloomin well having it... The point of morality is fairness to all, equality and understanding. I could go further by a religious study and interpolation between religion and logic but I won't as that's not something to be done., however, as we are human beings, we all have needs. By technicality and logic, we are all disabled in one way or other and have needs that differ from each other, thus the concept of humanity has to be stabilised by understanding and support. What worries me, now more than ever, is how education and social standards have shifted. Taking education as an example, no one these days educates students in ethics, respect, morals, how the world works, the differences between people and how to interact with them and understand them, as well as treating them with the respect they wish for. Is it not the case that if you wish to be treated with the respect and dignity you aim for, that you reflect that requirement in your acts and deeds to others? This is what schools are missing, also this is called into question by today's generation of families. I can call to an example an incident where I was rather outraged by what had occurred. Whilst shopping with my mum (P.A), a young lad kept shouting "Blind B**, I was made aware this brat was with it's mother, she also decided to make references of a sickening nature towards me and I chose to initially ignore it until it became too intense and an audience started to generate. I decided that enough was enough and followed to the sound of the mother, rather than the child. I basically put it to this woman that if she wished to continue her actions, she would be arrested under 2 counts. Section 5 public order offense and under the DDA rulings of disability discrimination in a public situation. The lad decided to give me a kick in the leg and my mum, at my side restrained him, I called for security and police assistance. The attitude of the woman in question was sickening, causing me to greatly doubt the existence of "decent people" in my home town. I notice, as we all do, that I and we, use the word disabled when it comes to blindness or visual impairment. My degree of tolerance to the word "disability becomes rather "pushed" as I do not see that my sight loss is a disability in the context that I am a living person, capable of things that sighted people couldn't do, and at the same time, at a disadvantage to sighted people. OK... wouldn't we all like to drive a car, read a paper without braille, see someone's face, etc? All I'm going to say now is this... We are dealt with the cards the master gives us, it is up to us as to how we deal with those cards and as to how we adapt to our limitations. If you let the world stand on you for too long, you're conditioned to it and allow it to happen. However... if you fight back and say "NO!" then you have the power to change things for the better. that's my rant over. MEE MEE MEE MEEE! (beaker from the muppets) lew On 29 Apr 2012, at 19:51, Jenny Keller wrote: > Hi, > > I'm sorry for the misconceptions and inaccurate information about things for > the blind in the UK. > > I know that I have heard, though, that in Australia, they give you the choice > of computers with accessible software, but I could be wrong about that too. > > Here, you have to be in school or have a job to get accessible anything. the > thing about that is, there are some people like me, that can't work due to > other health problems, and frankly, I'm treated as though I don't need > adaptive anything because I don't work. > > That's a crock of bull, because every blind person needs adaptive equipment. > > The Americans with Disabilities Act only works well for certain groups of > disabled people here. > > It's sad, but it's good to know that America isn't the only one screwing over > the blind or visually impaired. > > Oh by the way, the amount of money they give you to live on only provides > enough for subsidized housing, which usually isn't in a safe neighborhoods > and have questionable people either living in them, or around them dealing > drugs, or prostituting themselves because what they make isn't enough either. > > If you spit
Re: Screen locking issue
You can change that in energy saver preferences. Allison On Apr 29, 2012, at 5:46 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: > Hi all. > > > How do you stop the Mac from locking the screen? I cannot see the option in > the preferences. If I don't use the computer for about 5 to 15 minutes. The > screen locks requiring the password again. > > > Also, how do you put it into screen lock when you want too? > > Sean > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
New Tech Doctor Podcast
Hi All, There is a brand new Tech Doctor podcast at http://www.dr-carter.com Here are the show notes. During this hour, Robert has a fascinating conversation with, Jolie Mason, the founder and program director of the Los Angeles Radio Reading Service. The LA Reading Service can be heard world wide on an iOS app called http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/iblink-radio/id332027117?mt=8";>iBlink Radio In addition to her radio reading service work, Jolie hosts a radio show on a Los Angeles radio station http://www.kpfk.org";>KPFK The show is called "Access Unlimited" and can be heard online by going to the KPFK site. Jolie is an enthusiastic iPhone user but did express some frustration with the fact that VoiceOver users are required to use different gestures than those that are used by sighted iPhone users. Robert mentions a new book that teaches iPhone VoiceOver users everything they need to know. The book is available from the National Braille Press and is called http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/IPHONE-IOS5.html";>Getting Started with the IPhone and iOS 5 for Blind Users Jolie and Robert discuss an excellent website filled with information about Apple accessibility. The site is called http://www.applevis.com";>Applevis There is a new iOS, Android and PC app that allows people to voice chat with other users of the app throughout the world. It has become very popular with blind people. The app is called http://www.zello.com";>Zello One thing that can quickly become a problem is finding a particular app on your iPhone. This problem occurs once you have dozens of apps. Jolie describes her excellent system for organizing and categorizing all of her apps. Finally, Jolie and Robert discuss some of their favorite apps for learning about birds and for using the iPhone in the kitchen. Here are the links to some really great birding apps. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/birdtunes/id375875226?mt=8";>BirdTunes http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/national-geographics-handheld/id315268465?mt=8";>Handheld Birds http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chirp!-bird-songs-usa-+/id364891918?mt=8";>Chirp Bird Songs USA + http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ibird-explorer-pro/id308018823?mt=8";>iBird Explorer Pro Here are the links to the cooking and shopping apps that Jolie described. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/grocery-smart/id415326784?mt=8";>Grocery Smart http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/shopshop-shopping-list/id288350249?mt=8";>ShopShop http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/list-recorder/id381936335?mt=8";>List Recorder http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/crock-pot-virtual-cooking/id357825881?mt=8";>Crock-Pot Virtual Cooking Timer http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cooking/id405065324?mt=8";>Cooking http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fastmall-shopping-malls-community/id340656157?mt=8";>FastMall My visit with Jolie was delightful. I only hope you enjoy it as much as I did. Robert Carter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Priorities
HI Lu, I feel the same way. thank you for voicing what I have and still felt and feel for a long time. Jenny On Apr 29, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > on the thought of the muppet show, if anyone remembers the swedish chef? I > think that could be me lol. banana-nana-nanana split. lol > > If the UK could really improve their support systems, we'd be in a better > place, HSE regulations changed or adapted, company insurance rules changed in > favour of disabled people to give them equal chance. > > The whole purpose of the human rights act, the equality act and the > disability discrimination acts is to support, in our case, disability rights > and allow us to integrate into society and be treated as equals, not confined > and isolated / segregated. What does this government want us to do? be locked > in attics or institutions until we fade to nothing? well I'm sorry but I'm > not bloomin well having it... > > The point of morality is fairness to all, equality and understanding. I could > go further by a religious study and interpolation between religion and logic > but I won't as that's not something to be done., however, > > as we are human beings, we all have needs. By technicality and logic, we are > all disabled in one way or other and have needs that differ from each other, > thus the concept of humanity has to be stabilised by understanding and > support. > > What worries me, now more than ever, is how education and social standards > have shifted. Taking education as an example, no one these days educates > students in ethics, respect, morals, how the world works, the differences > between people and how to interact with them and understand them, as well as > treating them with the respect they wish for. > > Is it not the case that if you wish to be treated with the respect and > dignity you aim for, that you reflect that requirement in your acts and deeds > to others? This is what schools are missing, also this is called into > question by today's generation of families. I can call to an example an > incident where I was rather outraged by what had occurred. Whilst shopping > with my mum (P.A), a young lad kept shouting "Blind B**, I was made aware > this brat was with it's mother, she also decided to make references of a > sickening nature towards me and I chose to initially ignore it until it > became too intense and an audience started to generate. I decided that > enough was enough and followed to the sound of the mother, rather than the > child. I basically put it to this woman that if she wished to continue her > actions, she would be arrested under 2 counts. Section 5 public order offense > and under the DDA rulings of disability discrimination in a public situation. > The lad decided to give me a kick in the leg and my mum, at my side > restrained him, I called for security and police assistance. The attitude of > the woman in question was sickening, causing me to greatly doubt the > existence of "decent people" in my home town. > > I notice, as we all do, that I and we, use the word disabled when it comes to > blindness or visual impairment. My degree of tolerance to the word > "disability becomes rather "pushed" as I do not see that my sight loss is a > disability in the context that I am a living person, capable of things that > sighted people couldn't do, and at the same time, at a disadvantage to > sighted people. > > OK... wouldn't we all like to drive a car, read a paper without braille, see > someone's face, etc? > > All I'm going to say now is this... > > We are dealt with the cards the master gives us, it is up to us as to how we > deal with those cards and as to how we adapt to our limitations. If you let > the world stand on you for too long, you're conditioned to it and allow it to > happen. However... if you fight back and say "NO!" then you have the power to > change things for the better. > > that's my rant over. > > MEE MEE MEE MEEE! (beaker from the muppets) > > lew > > > On 29 Apr 2012, at 19:51, Jenny Keller wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm sorry for the misconceptions and inaccurate information about things for >> the blind in the UK. >> >> I know that I have heard, though, that in Australia, they give you the >> choice of computers with accessible software, but I could be wrong about >> that too. >> >> Here, you have to be in school or have a job to get accessible anything. >> the thing about that is, there are some people like me, that can't work due >> to other health problems, and frankly, I'm treated as though I don't need >> adaptive anything because I don't work. >> >> That's a crock of bull, because every blind person needs adaptive equipment. >> >> >> The Americans with Disabilities Act only works well for certain groups of >> disabled people here. >> >> It's sad, but it's good to know that America isn't the only one screwing >> over the blind or visuall
Setting to not automatically add files to iTunes library.
Hi everyone! I recently got a beautiful new Macboook pro, and find myself using it more than my pc because it's so portable. I'm wondering if there's a way to tell iTunes not to add every file I play to my iTunes library. Sometimes I just want to select a file in the finder, play it once, and exit without it being added. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
keystroke to search in Chrome and open in new tab?
Hi all, In Chrome, is there a keystroke to jump to the search field? Is there a way to have the results of that search open in a new tab? For instance, in Firefox, you can tweak a setting to open results in a new tab. Then, to search your selected search engine, just hit ctrl-e, type your text, and hit enter, and you have a tab with your results. This is a huge time-saver and I really hope there is a way to do it in Chrome (I refuse to use Safari). Hopefully that VO-friendly Firefox comes out soon, but in the meantime, is this possible in Chrome? Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Setting to not automatically add files to iTunes library.
Hi, Unfortunately, iTunes adds things as you play them, and there's no way to make it not. There's a way to not have it copy them to your media folder if you're playing them from another source such as an external drive, however, but not what you want to do. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Mervis Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 2:52 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Setting to not automatically add files to iTunes library. Hi everyone! I recently got a beautiful new Macboook pro, and find myself using it more than my pc because it's so portable. I'm wondering if there's a way to tell iTunes not to add every file I play to my iTunes library. Sometimes I just want to select a file in the finder, play it once, and exit without it being added. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Allison -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
black screen after wake-up?
Hi again all, My last post for now, I promise! I have a Mac Mini with a monitor hooked up via a Mini Display Port to VGA adapter. It works, but if I leave the mac for a while and come back to it, the screen is black. I like that it does this, but the problem is that it won't turn the screen back on when I hit a key to wake up the mac. The only solution seems to be a restart. The Mac was just updated yesterday, so it has all the latest software. Any ideas? Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Priorities
muppet moment or latter? lol you're very welcome. Our voices need to be heard, therefore we are one voice... singing in the darkness oops! lew On 29 Apr 2012, at 20:48, Jenny Keller wrote: > HI Lu, > > I feel the same way. > > thank you for voicing what I have and still felt and feel for a long time. > > Jenny > On Apr 29, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote: > >> on the thought of the muppet show, if anyone remembers the swedish chef? I >> think that could be me lol. banana-nana-nanana split. lol >> >> If the UK could really improve their support systems, we'd be in a better >> place, HSE regulations changed or adapted, company insurance rules changed >> in favour of disabled people to give them equal chance. >> >> The whole purpose of the human rights act, the equality act and the >> disability discrimination acts is to support, in our case, disability rights >> and allow us to integrate into society and be treated as equals, not >> confined and isolated / segregated. What does this government want us to do? >> be locked in attics or institutions until we fade to nothing? well I'm sorry >> but I'm not bloomin well having it... >> >> The point of morality is fairness to all, equality and understanding. I >> could go further by a religious study and interpolation between religion >> and logic but I won't as that's not something to be done., however, >> >> as we are human beings, we all have needs. By technicality and logic, we are >> all disabled in one way or other and have needs that differ from each other, >> thus the concept of humanity has to be stabilised by understanding and >> support. >> >> What worries me, now more than ever, is how education and social standards >> have shifted. Taking education as an example, no one these days educates >> students in ethics, respect, morals, how the world works, the differences >> between people and how to interact with them and understand them, as well as >> treating them with the respect they wish for. >> >> Is it not the case that if you wish to be treated with the respect and >> dignity you aim for, that you reflect that requirement in your acts and >> deeds to others? This is what schools are missing, also this is called into >> question by today's generation of families. I can call to an example an >> incident where I was rather outraged by what had occurred. Whilst shopping >> with my mum (P.A), a young lad kept shouting "Blind B**, I was made >> aware this brat was with it's mother, she also decided to make references of >> a sickening nature towards me and I chose to initially ignore it until it >> became too intense and an audience started to generate. I decided that >> enough was enough and followed to the sound of the mother, rather than the >> child. I basically put it to this woman that if she wished to continue her >> actions, she would be arrested under 2 counts. Section 5 public order >> offense and under the DDA rulings of disability discrimination in a public >> situation. The lad decided to give me a kick in the leg and my mum, at my >> side restrained him, I called for security and police assistance. The >> attitude of the woman in question was sickening, causing me to greatly doubt >> the existence of "decent people" in my home town. >> >> I notice, as we all do, that I and we, use the word disabled when it comes >> to blindness or visual impairment. My degree of tolerance to the word >> "disability becomes rather "pushed" as I do not see that my sight loss is a >> disability in the context that I am a living person, capable of things that >> sighted people couldn't do, and at the same time, at a disadvantage to >> sighted people. >> >> OK... wouldn't we all like to drive a car, read a paper without braille, see >> someone's face, etc? >> >> All I'm going to say now is this... >> >> We are dealt with the cards the master gives us, it is up to us as to how we >> deal with those cards and as to how we adapt to our limitations. If you let >> the world stand on you for too long, you're conditioned to it and allow it >> to happen. However... if you fight back and say "NO!" then you have the >> power to change things for the better. >> >> that's my rant over. >> >> MEE MEE MEE MEEE! (beaker from the muppets) >> >> lew >> >> >> On 29 Apr 2012, at 19:51, Jenny Keller wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm sorry for the misconceptions and inaccurate information about things >>> for the blind in the UK. >>> >>> I know that I have heard, though, that in Australia, they give you the >>> choice of computers with accessible software, but I could be wrong about >>> that too. >>> >>> Here, you have to be in school or have a job to get accessible anything. >>> the thing about that is, there are some people like me, that can't work due >>> to other health problems, and frankly, I'm treated as though I don't need >>> adaptive anything because I don't work. >>>
Re: Setting to not automatically add files to iTunes library.
Hi. What about quicklook? Just press space to start the file playing in quicklook. This is just part of the finder and can be used on many other file types. On 2012-04-29, at 3:53 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > Hi, > > Unfortunately, iTunes adds things as you play them, and there's no way to > make it not. > There's a way to not have it copy them to your media folder if you're > playing them from another source such as an external drive, however, but not > what you want to do. > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Mervis > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 2:52 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Setting to not automatically add files to iTunes library. > > Hi everyone! > I recently got a beautiful new Macboook pro, and find myself using it more > than my pc because it's so portable. I'm wondering if there's a way to tell > iTunes not to add every file I play to my iTunes library. Sometimes I just > want to select a file in the finder, play it once, and exit without it being > added. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. > Allison > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Setting to not automatically add files to iTunes library.
Hi, you could use a different program to listen to your song. If I am not mistaken, iTunes only adds the file to your library because you are using it to play that file. So if you were to use something like VLC to play your files, then it should not be added to your iTunes library. If I am wrong, I am sure someone else on the list will let me know. I just thought that this approach might be worth mentioning. Scott Rumery On Apr 29, 2012, at 3:53 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > Hi, > > Unfortunately, iTunes adds things as you play them, and there's no way to > make it not. > There's a way to not have it copy them to your media folder if you're > playing them from another source such as an external drive, however, but not > what you want to do. > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Mervis > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 2:52 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Setting to not automatically add files to iTunes library. > > Hi everyone! > I recently got a beautiful new Macboook pro, and find myself using it more > than my pc because it's so portable. I'm wondering if there's a way to tell > iTunes not to add every file I play to my iTunes library. Sometimes I just > want to select a file in the finder, play it once, and exit without it being > added. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. > Allison > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Setting to not automatically add files to iTunes library.
Wow, I didn't even think of that, please let us know if this approach works for not adding a file to your iTunes library. The Mac is such a wonderful platform, and I am constantly learning everyday. Scott Rumery On Apr 29, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > Hi. > What about quicklook? Just press space to start the file playing in > quicklook. This is just part of the finder and can be used on many other file > types. > > > > On 2012-04-29, at 3:53 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Unfortunately, iTunes adds things as you play them, and there's no way to >> make it not. >> There's a way to not have it copy them to your media folder if you're >> playing them from another source such as an external drive, however, but not >> what you want to do. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Mervis >> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 2:52 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Setting to not automatically add files to iTunes library. >> >> Hi everyone! >> I recently got a beautiful new Macboook pro, and find myself using it more >> than my pc because it's so portable. I'm wondering if there's a way to tell >> iTunes not to add every file I play to my iTunes library. Sometimes I just >> want to select a file in the finder, play it once, and exit without it being >> added. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. >> Allison >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Setting to not automatically add files to iTunes library.
Hi, if this is all you want to do, I suggest listening to the file with quicklook. To do this just press spacebar or, command Y on the file. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Apr 29, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Allison Mervis wrote: > Hi everyone! > I recently got a beautiful new Macboook pro, and find myself using it more > than my pc because it's so portable. I'm wondering if there's a way to tell > iTunes not to add every file I play to my iTunes library. Sometimes I just > want to select a file in the finder, play it once, and exit without it being > added. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. > Allison > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Setting to not automatically add files to iTunes library.
Hi. Quicklook is amazing! I use it all of the time. You can even read PDF documents and stuff with it. On 2012-04-29, at 4:20 PM, Scott Rumery wrote: > Wow, I didn't even think of that, please let us know if this approach works > for not adding a file to your iTunes library. The Mac is such a wonderful > platform, and I am constantly learning everyday. > > Scott Rumery > On Apr 29, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > >> Hi. >> What about quicklook? Just press space to start the file playing in >> quicklook. This is just part of the finder and can be used on many other >> file types. >> >> >> >> On 2012-04-29, at 3:53 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Unfortunately, iTunes adds things as you play them, and there's no way to >>> make it not. >>> There's a way to not have it copy them to your media folder if you're >>> playing them from another source such as an external drive, however, but not >>> what you want to do. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Mervis >>> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 2:52 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Setting to not automatically add files to iTunes library. >>> >>> Hi everyone! >>> I recently got a beautiful new Macboook pro, and find myself using it more >>> than my pc because it's so portable. I'm wondering if there's a way to tell >>> iTunes not to add every file I play to my iTunes library. Sometimes I just >>> want to select a file in the finder, play it once, and exit without it being >>> added. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. >>> Allison >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Setting to not automatically add files to iTunes library.
In that case, is Winamp for mac accessible? Are there any other alternatives to iTunes that are accessible in termes of basic media playing functions? On Apr 29, 2012, at 12:53 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > Hi, > > Unfortunately, iTunes adds things as you play them, and there's no way to > make it not. > There's a way to not have it copy them to your media folder if you're > playing them from another source such as an external drive, however, but not > what you want to do. > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Mervis > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 2:52 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Setting to not automatically add files to iTunes library. > > Hi everyone! > I recently got a beautiful new Macboook pro, and find myself using it more > than my pc because it's so portable. I'm wondering if there's a way to tell > iTunes not to add every file I play to my iTunes library. Sometimes I just > want to select a file in the finder, play it once, and exit without it being > added. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. > Allison > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Setting to not automatically add files to iTunes library.
Oh wow. Thanks. Allison On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > Hi. > What about quicklook? Just press space to start the file playing in > quicklook. This is just part of the finder and can be used on many other file > types. > > > > On 2012-04-29, at 3:53 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Unfortunately, iTunes adds things as you play them, and there's no way to >> make it not. >> There's a way to not have it copy them to your media folder if you're >> playing them from another source such as an external drive, however, but not >> what you want to do. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Mervis >> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 2:52 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Setting to not automatically add files to iTunes library. >> >> Hi everyone! >> I recently got a beautiful new Macboook pro, and find myself using it more >> than my pc because it's so portable. I'm wondering if there's a way to tell >> iTunes not to add every file I play to my iTunes library. Sometimes I just >> want to select a file in the finder, play it once, and exit without it being >> added. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. >> Allison >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moderator note -was- Re: blindmicemegamall movie vault and illegal file-sharing allegation
Hi All, let me remind you that promoting / discussing illegal activity of any kind is not only unwelcome here but prohibited if you'd like to remain a member of this list. So please, let's separate out the MovieVault aspects of this thread from the on-topic discussion of iPads in the classroom and move the MovieVault topic elsewhere. Let's do this now… Thanks a bunch people! You rock! Smiles, Cara :) On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: Oh please, they may "have to", but that doesn't mean they won't find a loop whole in order to get away with not doing it. Jenny On Apr 29, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: > Hi all. > > > AGain, how can education departments in the USA buy products when they are > not 508 rehab accessible? I thought all governments department in the USa had > to ensure the product is accessible based upon this rehab act or does this > only apply for federal? > > > There is 3 ways to change the thinking of business: > > 1. Demonstrate a market. > 2. Take them to court. Not always a good solution. > 3. Blind people develop a investment fund which invests into proactive > companies in the accessible area. > 4. Awareness education. > > > Oops, I said 3, but there is > > Sean > On 29/04/2012, at 7:24 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: > >> the issue is not the iPad itself, it is the apps that companies develop for >> it. most of those companies don't consider us much of a market (either by >> public perception or flawed fiscal analysis). there had already been one >> debacle involving a pad type computer (kindle) and a major institution >> (Arizona State University) and it was found that the blind were >> specifically locked out. the same is happening with iPad apps (even though >> the SDK tools and API are freely available and easy to incorporate, >> companies will not concede). Its a never ending struggle as those who think >> they know better never do and saddle us with their utter stupidity. there is >> a reason they call this "the tyranny of the stupid". >> >> -eric >> . >> On Apr 28, 2012, at 5:39 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> Hi Christine, >>> >>> I'm perplexed. How do you see the push to have iPads in classrooms as >>> something that leaves the blind/VI student out? If anything, I see that as >>> something that better enables us to participate, thanks to the fact that >>> Apple has made the iPad a fully accessible device. >>> Best, >>> Donna >>> On Apr 28, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: >>> With all due respect, Scott, laws which disparately impact certain groups or classes of people have been flouted through civil disobedience since the introduction of legal systems, e.g., civil rights, disability rights, employment rights, etc. The United States might not exist were it not for disobeying laws. I am an attorney, and it continues to amaze me how slowly the U.S. is moving to accommodate disability, and how snail-paced the societal shift in attitudes toward us has been. and it seems that whenever a company like Apple makes great strides in accommodating blindness off the shelf, plenty of other technologies come along and do not bother to incorporate us into their equation. So many educational apps, for example, are not accessible, though they could be, and given the push now to have iPads in classrooms, once again blind, visually impaired, and otherwise print-disabled students will be left out. Apple moves us two steps forward, and "progress" (for others) moves us three steps back. I should be able to turn on a television, flip a switch, or turn on a transmitter, and get descriptions. I should be able to access books on the Nook or the Kindle, not just iBooks. I cannot express, and I am sure others here agree, the happiness I feel when a new release or best-selling publication is available on iBooks. (Incidentally, if a book is available on iBooks and on bookshare.org, I purchase the book. Yet, I have lost quite a lot of money as a published author -- as soon as my book was published, I sent a copy to bookshare.org; it was more important to me to have it available at the same time to the blind and print-disabled. The Authors Guild apparently does not care about such access, despite the fact that they would actually get money from us.) I would happily go to the movies more and happily purchase audio-described movies through iTunes if they were available. Even movies which are released with audio description are not always sold through movie resellers -- goodness knows I have tried. To date, I have only located The Incredible Hulk, from 2008, which I purchased for my son. Even Apple could do more. It could strengthen its requirements for apps. It has provided developers with the means to make their apps VoiceOver acc
Re: Setting to not automatically add files to iTunes library.
The quick look solution seems to work very well. Now I just need to read a bit more about finder to see if there are shortcut keys for pausing, fast forwarding, etc. Allison On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:20 PM, Scott Rumery wrote: > Wow, I didn't even think of that, please let us know if this approach works > for not adding a file to your iTunes library. The Mac is such a wonderful > platform, and I am constantly learning everyday. > > Scott Rumery > On Apr 29, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > >> Hi. >> What about quicklook? Just press space to start the file playing in >> quicklook. This is just part of the finder and can be used on many other >> file types. >> >> >> >> On 2012-04-29, at 3:53 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Unfortunately, iTunes adds things as you play them, and there's no way to >>> make it not. >>> There's a way to not have it copy them to your media folder if you're >>> playing them from another source such as an external drive, however, but not >>> what you want to do. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Mervis >>> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 2:52 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Setting to not automatically add files to iTunes library. >>> >>> Hi everyone! >>> I recently got a beautiful new Macboook pro, and find myself using it more >>> than my pc because it's so portable. I'm wondering if there's a way to tell >>> iTunes not to add every file I play to my iTunes library. Sometimes I just >>> want to select a file in the finder, play it once, and exit without it being >>> added. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. >>> Allison >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
vm fusion start windows in safe mode?
Hi, Does anyone know off hand how to start windows 7 virtual machine in safe mode in vmware fusion? I've tried f8 and f10 at boot. Thanks, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Airdrop accesible?
Hello: This is just what I would like to know. Is Airdrop in Lyon accessible with vo? Thanks! SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Converting mp3 files
Hi all, Is there a way to convert a file to mp3 without using iTunes? Example, you're in a file list and you run across something you want to convert. Is there a way to do this without having to put the file into your iTunes. Also, is there some way to burn files to cd without using iTunes? Maybe a command you could enter? Stacey and Chesley. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Priorities
Lew The UK has produced hundreds of audio described DVDs, and the number showing up each year seems to be increasing. The AD track is another option on the DVD, so you just buy a standard copy and choose the second English audio track. I'd also say that the amount of audio description provided in UK cinemas seems to have drastically increased in the last year or so, at least where I live. Sky also provide a talking service to help use their TV offerings. I'm not sure how much access it actually gives as I don't have Sky, but it's certainly advertised as speaking channel selections, pause/play controls, etc. As far as I know, the iPhone app for Sky is also accessible, so you can schedule recordings independently. Cheers. Laura On Apr 29, 8:03 am, Lewis Alexander wrote: > Hi Jenny, I'm glad I've been listening to this thread. > > From my experience on this, Here in the UK, though there is audio description > to TV shows via new digital TV's, there still isn't a spoken user interface > to allow access to various menus, same on DVD players, recorders, etc. I've > not yet come across a single audio described DVD in my time. > > Support for blind and visually impaired people in most parts of the UK is > absolutely shocking. as an example, in education, I'm here in Wales (a > lottery win would see me leaving here as soon as possible), throughout my > education life, both visually impaired and blind, I've been let down and lied > to, given useless equipment which constantly failed, the wrong software, > extremely poor braille training, etc. the only good thing that came from it > was mobility training through RNIB instead of social services rehab > department. > > There was a point where mobility aids were free but now they're not, so I > have to pay about £300 per year on canes and tips due to high usage and > certain occasions where thugs in our area attack me destroying the cane for > "fun", so replacement canes are kept by. > > If you apply for funding, it's virtually non existent, not only that but the > rulings given have no sense nor structure. so if you need adaptive equipment, > not a chance, it's sell what you own or get into debt, that's my experience > on that matter. > > Why is it when you walk into a store and ask for help, you get a useless > person who hasn't a clue of how to assist you? I get this all the time... I > may as well appear as a muppet on the Muppet Show.. You ask to be guided and > they go without you, they say " it's over there", don't describe the items, > etc. So what's the bloomin use of them in the first place. > > Then of course the ultimate insult. to be blind and wanting to work for > companies here is a joke. Though I'm highly qualified and have all the right > requirements, because of being blind, there are 3 main areas that stop me > from working for a firm. 1: disability discrimination by the interviewer or > company, 2: Health and Safety regulations acts, 3: employer insurance costs. > > I've been in the IT game for myself for a while and don't mind it, but my > main skills are as a cabinet maker, having been trained by my grandfather who > was a master cabinet maker / carpenter. so I took on his work after his > retirement, so I'm the last in the line of the family in the trades and am > keeping that alive. I'm fine working for myself, but if I were to work for a > joinery company, they couldn't take me on for the amount of HSE red tape > nonsense. This stops us experienced folk from doing our jobs and putting us > out of work and I'm sick of it. > > I do some work with a company as a product demonstrator / endorser of their > products as I use them every day in the workshop and it's ridiculous how all > this nonsense gets in the way. > > Anyway, I also agree that here in the UK, if you're in a wheel chair, deaf, > etc you receive more support, blind and visually impaired people don't matter > and we're being ripped off with rubbish services, etc. Education is a total > mess where mainstream education should be the best option and is instead > hampered by people who cannot cater for a blind or visually impaired person's > needs and LEGAL RIGHTS. > > anyway, enough from me on that matter and I agree with your statements. This > world needs to open it's eyes to how we have to survice in this world and > that we should be treeted with the utmost respect and care, given the same > rights as the rest of the world and granted the support we need to be able to > achieve what our SIGHTED, able bodied equals should and are able to do. > > lew > > On 29 Apr 2012, at 01:40, Jenny Keller wrote: > > > > > > > > > Well, In my humble opinion, equality isn't there, so that, isn't fair > > treatment. the Americans with Disabilities Act should include the blind or > > visually \impaired just as vigorously as it does every other disability in > > this country. > > > there aren't any services, that I know of at this point, that the vi
Re: Please help.
This has been true with any UNIX based operating system, in the past 40 years. There are two solutions: 1. BIOS style password. This is a password that is required before single user mode can be entered. I believe MaCs have this ability, but I have not looked for it. 2. Run with Lion's encripted (file vault) disk system. And actually an encrpted file system is your only prottection when somebody has access to your machine, since in any other situation, the disk drive could just be removed from the computer and mounted on a different system. In fact, there are versions of Linux that will run on a CD that allow one to do all kinds of "interesting" things to the host computer. Be safe out there, Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On Apr 28, 2012, at 12:39 AM, Dan Roy wrote: > This is excellent info, but, isn't it a double edge sword? I mean, if > someone got hold of your machine, they might know this trick as well. > > No matter, I am definitely keeping this for future reference. > > > On Apr 22, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Lew, Scott, Stacey, and Others, >> >> Yes, it's possible to reset the master password from the command line >> without a set of the install CDs or DVDs for your operating system. Scott >> is correct that if you do this from the Terminal command line while you're >> logged in, you normally have to put in your admin password. However, >> another way to accomplish this is to boot into single user mode and perform >> these actions. This is a special startup mode that allows you to do >> trouble-shooting and doesn't bring up the full system. The issue is that >> this means you also can't bring up VoiceOver, so you should do this with >> sighted assistance. What you will be doing is typing in a command that >> removes the database entry telling your Mac that the initial account setup >> was done. Then, when you reboot normally, you can enter the information >> about master password, etc. as though you were booting for the first time. >> I'll let Lew handle the explanation about how to go through that stage to >> preserve current account information in the reboot. >> >> Here's a link to a MacOS X Daily article that describes the process: >> http://osxdaily.com/2010/08/10/forgot-mac-password-how-to-reset-mac-password/ >> Although there are only three commands to be typed after you boot up in >> single user mode, by holding down the command key and the "s" key just after >> hearing the power up self test sound after pressing the power button, you >> have to type them exactly. And you either need to wait for a while to make >> sure your machine has completed the boot up, or have someone who is sighted >> tell you that you've gotten the prompt that shows you can start typing. >> Then you need to type the commands with all the special symbols like slash >> and the hyphen switches, and press return (also known as "enter" by Windows >> users) after each line, so you should read the entries character by >> character. Specifically, the command to run the filesystem check should >> have the option characters "f" and "y" after the hyphen; the mount command >> should have the option characters "u" and "w" after the hyphen, and then >> there should be a space after these switches and a slash character. The >> slash indicates the top level directory. The ".AppleSetupDone" file that you >> remove has a period at the start of the name to indicate that it is normally >> a "hidden" file that does not show up in Finder. You may not have to >> capitalize the "A", "S", and "D" in the name for the file, but I've typed >> this exactly the way the file is named on a Snow Leopard system when viewed >> in Terminal. Then, after you've typed the three commands, you type "reboot" >> (without quotation marks) and press return to reboot your machine normally. >> >> When you reboot you go through a new setup, but you take care not to create >> the same user account that would overwrite your present account. Then, in >> the third stage, you can either use the Admin privileges of the new account >> with Admin password to give your existing account Admin privileges and reset >> the password, or you can leave your account without a password and use the >> new Admin account and its password when you need to perform system >> installations. >> >> Here's the pasted in section from the article: >> >> Stage 1) Boot into Single User Mode and remove a setup file >> >> • Restart the Mac holding down the Command+S keys, this will take you >> into Single User Mode and it’s Terminal interface >> • You’ll need to check the filesystem first: >> fsck -fy >> >> • Next, you must mount the root drive as writeable so that changes will >> save: >> mount -uw / >> >> • Now, type the following command exactly, followed by the enter key: >> rm /var/db/.AppleSetupDone >> >> • After removing the .AppleSetupDone file, you need
Re: web navigation?
You might want to try using chrome vox. If you hit the command key twice while in chromevox then all the shortcuts are able to be done without holding down command-control. Chrome Vox does do things a bit different for arrows. Up/Down is your primary navigator and left / right navigates at a smaller incrment. So if up/down is reading sentences then left / right will navigate by word. In a table however all four arrow keys while in Object navigation will navigate by table cell. I am not sure if dom/group works in Chomebox. In Safari and Webkit, DOM mode navigates much like a windows browser with speech. Group mode combines major clusters of information and will navigate as things are layed out on the screen to the most part. Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On Apr 29, 2012, at 8:21 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > Hi all, > I am using Chrome for a web browser, and I have a few questions about reading > and navigating web pages. > > 1. In the vo utility, you can choose either DOM order or grouping. Which is > better? > 2. Is there a way to disable the web rotor, so the arrows will act like they > do in text reading or editing? With letter navigation, I see the web rotor as > redundant and I'd rather use the arrow keys in the usual text navigation way. > Thanks in advance. > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: web navigation?
I've heard of Chromevox and I even tried it a while back, but I found it confusing and difficult to work with. Still, if I can arrow around, it might be worth looking into again. Are there any podcasts on it? On 29 Apr 2012, at 20:49, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > You might want to try using chrome vox. If you hit the command key twice > while in chromevox then all the shortcuts are able to be done without holding > down command-control. Chrome Vox does do things a bit different for arrows. > Up/Down is your primary navigator and left / right navigates at a smaller > incrment. > > So if up/down is reading sentences then left / right will navigate by word. > In a table however all four arrow keys while in Object navigation will > navigate by table cell. > > I am not sure if dom/group works in Chomebox. In Safari and Webkit, DOM mode > navigates much like a windows browser with speech. Group mode combines major > clusters of information and will navigate as things are layed out on the > screen to the most part. > Jonathan C. Cohn > jonc...@cox.net > > > > On Apr 29, 2012, at 8:21 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > >> Hi all, >> I am using Chrome for a web browser, and I have a few questions about >> reading and navigating web pages. >> >> 1. In the vo utility, you can choose either DOM order or grouping. Which is >> better? >> 2. Is there a way to disable the web rotor, so the arrows will act like they >> do in text reading or editing? With letter navigation, I see the web rotor >> as redundant and I'd rather use the arrow keys in the usual text navigation >> way. >> Thanks in advance. >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mail weirdness
You can tell Apple's IMAP client to make any folder the "trash" folder. 1. Select the folder you want to be the trash folder. 2. go to the mailbox menu and find the "Use this mailbox for" sub menu. 3. Select Trash Note: when you do this, the folder the Macintosh was using for trash will appear in your folder list, so you want to go into that folder and delete everything. A note on Google.. Google does not have a true idea of folders, and it is possible that moving items into the trash will not do exactly what you want. This is because Google is using only one copy of your message no matter how many folders it appears in. There is or was an option to indicate how deletions occur. But the entire process is convuluted, because Google thinks youwant to keep everything and because IMAP has an idea of deleting that does not use a trash folder. The article previously mentioned from tidbits does a much better description then I can of how to get these to mesh correctly. Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On Apr 28, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: > Try moving them to [Gmail]/Trash instead. That's what I do. > > See my other mail about deleting. You could follow that route for a while and > then go into that folder of deleted messages and move them to [Gmail]/Trash. > Too bad we can't write a macro for Apple Mail to do this. That's what I do > when I use mutt to read and manage email. > > On Apr 28, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote: > >> Yeah, this is the strangest thing! It didn't do this before I had to >> reinstall Lion a couple of weeks ago. >> >> It does seem like if I actually go in and read the message, it does stay >> deleted, but if I don't choose to read it, it comes back like the plague! >> >> Totally annoying! >> >> Cait and Nicky >> >> On 2012-04-28, at 2:59 PM, Veronica Elsea wrote: >> >>> Caitlin, I have my account set the same way and it won't delete my messages >>> either. I'm just as puzzled about this as you are. Sorry, no answers here >>> yet. >>> >>> Veronica >>> >>> Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner at >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ >>> Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at >>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com >>> Veronica Elsea, Owner >>> Laurel Creek Music Designs >>> Santa Cruz, California >>> Phone: 831-429-6407 >>> >>> On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote: >>> Hi, I hope somebody has some suggestions about my mail problem. After a reinstall of Lion a couple weeks ago, I of course had to reinput my mail account. I am using my gmail account. Now,, mail isn't deleting my messages after I read them. The next time I reopen mail, the same messages are back again! In mail preferences, I have it set to delete the trash when quitting mail, and to not leave things on the server. What am I doing wrong? Before I had to reinstall Lion, my gamil account didn't act like this! thanks, Caitlyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at h
Re: web navigation?
Hi, I haven't had much luck with chrome vox. All it does is crash chrome on my machine. If you want to just navigate with arrows, you should just turn on quick nav by pressing the left and right arrow keys at the same time. JMO. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Apr 29, 2012, at 8:52 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > I've heard of Chromevox and I even tried it a while back, but I found it > confusing and difficult to work with. Still, if I can arrow around, it might > be worth looking into again. Are there any podcasts on it? > On 29 Apr 2012, at 20:49, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > >> You might want to try using chrome vox. If you hit the command key twice >> while in chromevox then all the shortcuts are able to be done without >> holding down command-control. Chrome Vox does do things a bit different for >> arrows. Up/Down is your primary navigator and left / right navigates at a >> smaller incrment. >> >> So if up/down is reading sentences then left / right will navigate by word. >> In a table however all four arrow keys while in Object navigation will >> navigate by table cell. >> >> I am not sure if dom/group works in Chomebox. In Safari and Webkit, DOM >> mode navigates much like a windows browser with speech. Group mode combines >> major clusters of information and will navigate as things are layed out on >> the screen to the most part. >> Jonathan C. Cohn >> jonc...@cox.net >> >> >> >> On Apr 29, 2012, at 8:21 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> I am using Chrome for a web browser, and I have a few questions about >>> reading and navigating web pages. >>> >>> 1. In the vo utility, you can choose either DOM order or grouping. Which is >>> better? >>> 2. Is there a way to disable the web rotor, so the arrows will act like >>> they do in text reading or editing? With letter navigation, I see the web >>> rotor as redundant and I'd rather use the arrow keys in the usual text >>> navigation way. >>> Thanks in advance. >>> >>> >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: inserting files into the body of an email
With a bit of effort I was able to create a signature in Snow Leopard, but then it is even more effort to associate the signature with an email accout. Try turning off cursor tracking Vo-Shift-F3 and you might have some luck. Best wishes, Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: > Oh, that's simple enough. > Thanks, > Blessings, > Stacey and Geb dog Chesley > stacey...@bellsouth.net > On Apr 29, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Oh. >> >> just copy and paste then. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:16 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >> >>> Ricardo, I don't want to attach. >>> I want to insert text directly in to my message. >>> >>> On Apr 29, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> Hi, to add an attachment to an e-mail, open the e-mail and press command shift A to bring up the filed browser. Find the file and press enter and it will be attached. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Apr 29, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: > Hi all, > I've reported this to apple accessibility. > Anyway, on to my question. > If I've created a signature file in text edit, and I want to put it into > my message is there a way to insert a file into a message? > Apple accessibility says that there's a bug in SnowLeopard that causes > mail to get stuck when creating a signature in preferences. This is what > happens with me. > Each time I've created a signature I get mail busy until I force quit the > app. > This is why I was wondering if there's a way to insert files from text > edit into an email message. > Thanks, > Blessings, > Stacey and Geb dog Chesley > stacey...@bellsouth.net > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: web navigation?
I have quick nav on. However, the left/right arrows don't seem to navigate reliably (I ended up at the bottom of a page, and you can't read by smaller chunks inside, say, a paragraph of text). Say you're reading an article and aren't sure how an oddly spoken phrase is spelled. On Windows, or in an edit area on Mac, you'd arrow to the line, then move word by word to the phrase, then read word by word or character by character. How would you do this (efficiently, not by moving the rotor all over the place and hoping you don't hit the wrong key and jump out of the entire article) in Chrome or Safari? Even the "lines" setting on the rotor is not very useful - I still have no idea what it thinks a "line" is, and it never seems to move me anywhere. On 4/29/12, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > I haven't had much luck with chrome vox. All it does is crash chrome on my > machine. If you want to just navigate with arrows, you should just turn on > quick nav by pressing the left and right arrow keys at the same time. > > JMO. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Apr 29, 2012, at 8:52 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > >> I've heard of Chromevox and I even tried it a while back, but I found it >> confusing and difficult to work with. Still, if I can arrow around, it >> might be worth looking into again. Are there any podcasts on it? >> On 29 Apr 2012, at 20:49, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: >> >>> You might want to try using chrome vox. If you hit the command key twice >>> while in chromevox then all the shortcuts are able to be done without >>> holding down command-control. Chrome Vox does do things a bit different >>> for arrows. Up/Down is your primary navigator and left / right navigates >>> at a smaller incrment. >>> >>> So if up/down is reading sentences then left / right will navigate by >>> word. In a table however all four arrow keys while in Object navigation >>> will navigate by table cell. >>> >>> I am not sure if dom/group works in Chomebox. In Safari and Webkit, DOM >>> mode navigates much like a windows browser with speech. Group mode >>> combines major clusters of information and will navigate as things are >>> layed out on the screen to the most part. >>> Jonathan C. Cohn >>> jonc...@cox.net >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 29, 2012, at 8:21 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>> Hi all, I am using Chrome for a web browser, and I have a few questions about reading and navigating web pages. 1. In the vo utility, you can choose either DOM order or grouping. Which is better? 2. Is there a way to disable the web rotor, so the arrows will act like they do in text reading or editing? With letter navigation, I see the web rotor as redundant and I'd rather use the arrow keys in the usual text navigation way. Thanks in advance. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisi
Re: web navigation?
It has its own tutorial builtin right now. Was that the case when you tried it? Jonathan Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On Apr 29, 2012, at 8:52 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > I've heard of Chromevox and I even tried it a while back, but I found it > confusing and difficult to work with. Still, if I can arrow around, it might > be worth looking into again. Are there any podcasts on it? > On 29 Apr 2012, at 20:49, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > >> You might want to try using chrome vox. If you hit the command key twice >> while in chromevox then all the shortcuts are able to be done without >> holding down command-control. Chrome Vox does do things a bit different for >> arrows. Up/Down is your primary navigator and left / right navigates at a >> smaller incrment. >> >> So if up/down is reading sentences then left / right will navigate by word. >> In a table however all four arrow keys while in Object navigation will >> navigate by table cell. >> >> I am not sure if dom/group works in Chomebox. In Safari and Webkit, DOM >> mode navigates much like a windows browser with speech. Group mode combines >> major clusters of information and will navigate as things are layed out on >> the screen to the most part. >> Jonathan C. Cohn >> jonc...@cox.net >> >> >> >> On Apr 29, 2012, at 8:21 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> I am using Chrome for a web browser, and I have a few questions about >>> reading and navigating web pages. >>> >>> 1. In the vo utility, you can choose either DOM order or grouping. Which is >>> better? >>> 2. Is there a way to disable the web rotor, so the arrows will act like >>> they do in text reading or editing? With letter navigation, I see the web >>> rotor as redundant and I'd rather use the arrow keys in the usual text >>> navigation way. >>> Thanks in advance. >>> >>> >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: web navigation?
Perhaps, but, if it was there, I couldn't figure out how to use it (the tutorial) and couldn't remember everything it threw at me. I know I managed ot pull up a help file once, but am not sure where that was. I eventually gave up on it as it was so confusing and didn't work any better. However, I now have a monitor, making performance immensely better, and Chromevox has had time to update, so who knows... On 4/29/12, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > It has its own tutorial builtin right now. Was that the case when you tried > it? > > Jonathan > > Jonathan C. Cohn > jonc...@cox.net > > > > On Apr 29, 2012, at 8:52 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > >> I've heard of Chromevox and I even tried it a while back, but I found it >> confusing and difficult to work with. Still, if I can arrow around, it >> might be worth looking into again. Are there any podcasts on it? >> On 29 Apr 2012, at 20:49, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: >> >>> You might want to try using chrome vox. If you hit the command key twice >>> while in chromevox then all the shortcuts are able to be done without >>> holding down command-control. Chrome Vox does do things a bit different >>> for arrows. Up/Down is your primary navigator and left / right navigates >>> at a smaller incrment. >>> >>> So if up/down is reading sentences then left / right will navigate by >>> word. In a table however all four arrow keys while in Object navigation >>> will navigate by table cell. >>> >>> I am not sure if dom/group works in Chomebox. In Safari and Webkit, DOM >>> mode navigates much like a windows browser with speech. Group mode >>> combines major clusters of information and will navigate as things are >>> layed out on the screen to the most part. >>> Jonathan C. Cohn >>> jonc...@cox.net >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 29, 2012, at 8:21 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>> Hi all, I am using Chrome for a web browser, and I have a few questions about reading and navigating web pages. 1. In the vo utility, you can choose either DOM order or grouping. Which is better? 2. Is there a way to disable the web rotor, so the arrows will act like they do in text reading or editing? With letter navigation, I see the web rotor as redundant and I'd rather use the arrow keys in the usual text navigation way. Thanks in advance. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mail weirdness
Thanks so much Robert, for that article link. I had no idea you could do all that with Mail but after reading the post and following most of the steps he outlined, I have Apple Mail working the way I want now. I even have the mail boxes organized nicely now. At least everything is going to Trash the way I want and I can let gmail cycle out the Trash like it has been doing all along. Thanks again. On Apr 29, 2012, at 6:23 AM, Robert Carter wrote: > Hi Steve, > > You can tell Apple mail to use the gmail trash mailbox instead of its trash > mailbox. Here is a link to a TidBits article which will show you how to > configure apple mail to work with gmail's imap implementation. Gmail has > changed some since the article was written but you should be able to figure > it out. > http://tidbits.com/article/10253 > > Robert Carter > On Apr 28, 2012, at 9:12 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: > >> When I went into gmail settings, I could not find anything to enable >> immediate deletion of messages. I recall some time ago when there was an >> option in Google Labs supporting an option to make gmail's IMAP emulation >> work like normal IMAP servers but I haven't heard anything more on this >> since then. >> >> In the mean time, the messages I delete with the delete key are now placing >> messages into a folder called Deleted messages. I guess I will have to go >> this route for now and use Mutt email client to go in and move them all over >> to [Gmail]/Trash from time to time. Or just go back to moving them to Trash >> manually each time I wish to delete stuff. Frankly, the the delete function >> in Apple Mail for Lion is not doing the job the way I want it to. It might >> work well for POP or standard IMAP but not for gmail IMAP. >> >> On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:00 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >>> Hello Caitlyn et al, >>> >>> I read your message very carefully. >>> >>> Currently, I have several G Mail iMap accounts that I access with Apple >>> Mail. I have no problems at all in deleting messages from any of them; I >>> have re-installed Lion several times since its release without having ever >>> experienced the problem you and others are currently reporting. >>> >>> When I wish to delete a message from either a conversation or the delete the >>> entire thread, in Standard view, I simply press the BackSpace key on the >>> keyboard. >>> >>> Now, before exiting Mail, I use the key combo Command+Shift+Backspace in >>> order to empty the messages currently marked for deletion. I answer yes, in >>> the confirmation Dialog box and they are permanently deleted. >>> >>> Now you may be saying, "Yes, Mark, I do this as well yet it does not work." >>> To which I will reply, I understand. >>> >>> The problem is that there is a setting that must be configured from within >>> your G Mail account, itself, on the web to enable the client to have access >>> in order to permanently delete the mail. >>> >>> It's been a while since I set this up but, go to your G Mail web account. >>> Somewhere in the Options, you will see something that reads like "Delete >>> Messages Immediately". This will be unchecked. You must place a checkmark >>> in this option. Then, if all goes well and "the water don't rise," as the >>> saying goes (smile) you should be in business. >>> >>> While you're in that area of your G Mail account, review all of the message >>> options in case I am, most likely, forgetting something else. >>> >>> One more thing, I have my G Mail account setup so that, when using either >>> Apple Mail or Microsoft Outlook, I can quickly and easily undelete any >>> message marked for deletion (before the purge), by using key-combo Command+Z >>> on the Mac or Control+Z in Windows 7. If you would like to know how to >>> configure this for your G Mail account, check out episode 70 of the Candle >>> Shore podcast. >>> >>> Good Luck, >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness >>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 11:08 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Cc: Caitlyn Furness >>> Subject: mail weirdness >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I hope somebody has some suggestions about my mail problem. >>> >>> After a reinstall of Lion a couple weeks ago, I of course had to reinput my >>> mail account. I am using my gmail account. Now,, mail isn't deleting my >>> messages after I read them. The next time I reopen mail, the same messages >>> are back again! >>> >>> In mail preferences, I have it set to delete the trash when quitting mail, >>> and to not leave things on the server. >>> >>> What am I doing wrong? >>> >>> Before I had to reinstall Lion, my gamil account didn't act like this! >>> >>> thanks, >>> Caitlyn >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries
Re: mail weirdness
Yes, I had no idea of this functionality in Mail; that article set it all strait for me. I already understood the Google concepts concerning IMAP but I originally had trouble getting Mail to get totally into the groove so to speak. This idea of linking or using folders as mail box is interesting but not strait forward to anyone new to this application. The IOS versions of Mail do it strait away by just changing the Archive button to Delete and it automatically goes to the right folder. I checked this out last night and that part is all good. It now appears to be good in Apple mail for me too. On Apr 29, 2012, at 6:02 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: > You can tell Apple's IMAP client to make any folder the "trash" folder. > > 1. Select the folder you want to be the trash folder. > 2. go to the mailbox menu and find the "Use this mailbox for" sub menu. > 3. Select Trash > > Note: when you do this, the folder the Macintosh was using for trash will > appear in your folder list, so you want to go into that folder and delete > everything. > > A note on Google.. Google does not have a true idea of folders, and it is > possible that moving items into the trash will not do exactly what you want. > This is because Google is using only one copy of your message no matter how > many folders it appears in. There is or was an option to indicate how > deletions occur. But the entire process is convuluted, because Google thinks > youwant to keep everything and because IMAP has an idea of deleting that does > not use a trash folder. The article previously mentioned from tidbits does a > much better description then I can of how to get these to mesh correctly. > > Jonathan > > Jonathan C. Cohn > jonc...@cox.net > > > > On Apr 28, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: > >> Try moving them to [Gmail]/Trash instead. That's what I do. >> >> See my other mail about deleting. You could follow that route for a while >> and then go into that folder of deleted messages and move them to >> [Gmail]/Trash. Too bad we can't write a macro for Apple Mail to do this. >> That's what I do when I use mutt to read and manage email. >> >> On Apr 28, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote: >> >>> Yeah, this is the strangest thing! It didn't do this before I had to >>> reinstall Lion a couple of weeks ago. >>> >>> It does seem like if I actually go in and read the message, it does stay >>> deleted, but if I don't choose to read it, it comes back like the plague! >>> >>> Totally annoying! >>> >>> Cait and Nicky >>> >>> On 2012-04-28, at 2:59 PM, Veronica Elsea wrote: >>> Caitlin, I have my account set the same way and it won't delete my messages either. I'm just as puzzled about this as you are. Sorry, no answers here yet. Veronica Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs Santa Cruz, California Phone: 831-429-6407 On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote: > Hi, > > I hope somebody has some suggestions about my mail problem. > > After a reinstall of Lion a couple weeks ago, I of course had to reinput > my mail account. I am using my gmail account. Now,, mail isn't deleting > my messages after I read them. The next time I reopen mail, the same > messages are back again! > > In mail preferences, I have it set to delete the trash when quitting > mail, and to not leave things on the server. > > What am I doing wrong? > > Before I had to reinstall Lion, my gamil account didn't act like this! > > thanks, > Caitlyn > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubs
growl help
Hi listers. I have installed growl 1.3.3. it it working fine, but I am unable to figure out how to have the notifications spoken... could any one tell me what to do? Thank you in advance Cheers Venkatesh Potluri -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: growl help
You're doing better than me. I think I have to reinstall it on my machine because it wasn't behaving very well at all. After I do that, I'll let you know how it goes. However, I'd like to know the answer to this question too for when it is installed on my machine again and hopefully behaves itself. Jenny On Apr 29, 2012, at 9:50 PM, Venkatesh Potluri wrote: > Hi listers. > I have installed growl 1.3.3. it it working fine, but I am unable to > figure out how to have the notifications spoken... could any one tell > me what to do? > Thank you in advance > Cheers > Venkatesh Potluri > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: growl help
Hi Thanks :) good luck with your installation :D What exactly is going wrong? cheers Venkatesh Potluri On 4/30/12, Jenny Keller wrote: > You're doing better than me. I think I have to reinstall it on my machine > because it wasn't behaving very well at all. > > After I do that, I'll let you know how it goes. > > However, I'd like to know the answer to this question too for when it is > installed on my machine again and hopefully behaves itself. > > Jenny > On Apr 29, 2012, at 9:50 PM, Venkatesh Potluri wrote: > >> Hi listers. >> I have installed growl 1.3.3. it it working fine, but I am unable to >> figure out how to have the notifications spoken... could any one tell >> me what to do? >> Thank you in advance >> Cheers >> Venkatesh Potluri >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: growl help
Hi. You'd better use for Growl different voices, not same as for VoiceOver, maybe from Acapela 30.04.2012 6:50, Venkatesh Potluri wrote: Hi listers. I have installed growl 1.3.3. it it working fine, but I am unable to figure out how to have the notifications spoken... could any one tell me what to do? Thank you in advance Cheers Venkatesh Potluri -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: web navigation?
Hello Alex, Even with Quick Nav on, you can still use the normal VO commands to navigate by character, word, line, sentence, etc. You can also lock the VO keys to minimise the number of keys to be pressed. Cheers, Anne On 30 Apr 2012, at 03:15, Alex Hall wrote: > I have quick nav on. However, the left/right arrows don't seem to > navigate reliably (I ended up at the bottom of a page, and you can't > read by smaller chunks inside, say, a paragraph of text). Say you're > reading an article and aren't sure how an oddly spoken phrase is > spelled. On Windows, or in an edit area on Mac, you'd arrow to the > line, then move word by word to the phrase, then read word by word or > character by character. How would you do this (efficiently, not by > moving the rotor all over the place and hoping you don't hit the wrong > key and jump out of the entire article) in Chrome or Safari? Even the > "lines" setting on the rotor is not very useful - I still have no idea > what it thinks a "line" is, and it never seems to move me anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
