Re: Intel Xeon W3530 quad-core processor and internal storage
No, the heatsink and processor will fit together just as they would otherwise. The six core Mac Pro comes with a W3680 Xeon chip. So, this is nothing new, and it will fit right from the factory. Nevertheless though, I am used to working on, and building computers. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:23 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > I was thinking the same thing. In more cases than not, upgrading your > processor is more trouble than what its worth. Won't upgrading the processor > also mean a new heat sync and fan as well? The easiest way to improve > performance is to always upgrade RAM > > IMO. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > >> I'm curious about your upgrade. In the past CPU upgrades were kind of >> diminishing returns since you then just hit bottlenecks in other parts of >> the system, such as RAM, system bus, drive IO and video IO. Are you doing >> something that is compute intensive but low bandwidth? Just hoping you >> aren't setting expectations too high after your upgrade. >> >> I would also note that a brand new 1TB drive in the box with warranty etc. >> is only about $85 with free shipping. So you might find selling your old >> drive probably isn't worth it. Maybe just leave it in there as some scratch >> space. You have four bays afterall. >> >> CB >> >> On 4/16/12 7:08 PM, Cody wrote: >>> Good evening all, >>> >>> I'm upgrading the processor in my mid 2010 mac pro from a Xeon W3530 >>> quad-core chip to a w3680 6 core chip. The W3530 runs at 2.8 GHZ. Nothing >>> at all wrong with the processor, just want to upgrade and get 2 more cores >>> for productivity. I'm asking $250 for the processor, and $10 shipping. If >>> interested, please hit me back. >>> >>> One x 1 tb internal sata3 drive, will be whiped before selling, asking $50. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Intel Xeon W3530 quad-core processor and internal storage
Processor upgrades are fairly simple. You just have to do reading beforehand. In this case, all parts will fit together properly with no extra modification needed. Just today, I installed and SSD hard drive and added 16 gigs of ram my computer. So I'm used to all of this. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:26 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > I was googling around and the upgrade process sounded non-trivial with > acetone used to clean the heat paste off the old heat sinks to re-attach them > to the new processors. Dunno if I would attempt that. > > CB > > On 4/18/12 12:23 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I was thinking the same thing. In more cases than not, upgrading your >> processor is more trouble than what its worth. Won't upgrading the >> processor also mean a new heat sync and fan as well? The easiest way to >> improve performance is to always upgrade RAM >> >> IMO. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Apr 17, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: >> >>> I'm curious about your upgrade. In the past CPU upgrades were kind of >>> diminishing returns since you then just hit bottlenecks in other parts of >>> the system, such as RAM, system bus, drive IO and video IO. Are you doing >>> something that is compute intensive but low bandwidth? Just hoping you >>> aren't setting expectations too high after your upgrade. >>> >>> I would also note that a brand new 1TB drive in the box with warranty etc. >>> is only about $85 with free shipping. So you might find selling your old >>> drive probably isn't worth it. Maybe just leave it in there as some scratch >>> space. You have four bays afterall. >>> >>> CB >>> >>> On 4/16/12 7:08 PM, Cody wrote: Good evening all, I'm upgrading the processor in my mid 2010 mac pro from a Xeon W3530 quad-core chip to a w3680 6 core chip. The W3530 runs at 2.8 GHZ. Nothing at all wrong with the processor, just want to upgrade and get 2 more cores for productivity. I'm asking $250 for the processor, and $10 shipping. If interested, please hit me back. One x 1 tb internal sata3 drive, will be whiped before selling, asking $50. >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Intel Xeon W3530 quad-core processor and internal storage
Typically, you would be right, but as I said before in this case, the W3680 Comstock in the Mac Pro six core. So like I said, nothing new here and no modifications needed. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:30 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Ah! > > Ok. Because faster processors generally mean more heat and sometimes a new > heat sink is needed to dissipate that heat. I'm studying for my A+ > certification so, I'm a newby to this and I'm soaking it all in. > > Thanks. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:26 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > >> I was googling around and the upgrade process sounded non-trivial with >> acetone used to clean the heat paste off the old heat sinks to re-attach >> them to the new processors. Dunno if I would attempt that. >> >> CB >> >> On 4/18/12 12:23 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was thinking the same thing. In more cases than not, upgrading your >>> processor is more trouble than what its worth. Won't upgrading the >>> processor also mean a new heat sync and fan as well? The easiest way to >>> improve performance is to always upgrade RAM >>> >>> IMO. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: >>> I'm curious about your upgrade. In the past CPU upgrades were kind of diminishing returns since you then just hit bottlenecks in other parts of the system, such as RAM, system bus, drive IO and video IO. Are you doing something that is compute intensive but low bandwidth? Just hoping you aren't setting expectations too high after your upgrade. I would also note that a brand new 1TB drive in the box with warranty etc. is only about $85 with free shipping. So you might find selling your old drive probably isn't worth it. Maybe just leave it in there as some scratch space. You have four bays afterall. CB On 4/16/12 7:08 PM, Cody wrote: > Good evening all, > > I'm upgrading the processor in my mid 2010 mac pro from a Xeon W3530 > quad-core chip to a w3680 6 core chip. The W3530 runs at 2.8 GHZ. Nothing > at all wrong with the processor, just want to upgrade and get 2 more > cores for productivity. I'm asking $250 for the processor, and $10 > shipping. If interested, please hit me back. > > One x 1 tb internal sata3 drive, will be whiped before selling, asking > $50. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Intel Xeon W3530 quad-core processor and internal storage
depending on the CPU installation, the same heat sink and fan can be used, that is depending on how far the processor upgrade goes. it's an easy job to do as long as you're careful. I've done this on various macs in my time including major overhauls, turning a G3 blue and white into a monster system, etc. as long as you know the firmware limitations and hardware reliances, you're fine. the key thing is confidence in your ability to do the job and a knowledge of test and diagnostics. lew On 18 Apr 2012, at 08:30, Cody Hurst wrote: > Processor upgrades are fairly simple. You just have to do reading beforehand. > In this case, all parts will fit together properly with no extra modification > needed. Just today, I installed and SSD hard drive and added 16 gigs of ram > my computer. So I'm used to all of this. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:26 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > >> I was googling around and the upgrade process sounded non-trivial with >> acetone used to clean the heat paste off the old heat sinks to re-attach >> them to the new processors. Dunno if I would attempt that. >> >> CB >> >> On 4/18/12 12:23 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was thinking the same thing. In more cases than not, upgrading your >>> processor is more trouble than what its worth. Won't upgrading the >>> processor also mean a new heat sync and fan as well? The easiest way to >>> improve performance is to always upgrade RAM >>> >>> IMO. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: >>> I'm curious about your upgrade. In the past CPU upgrades were kind of diminishing returns since you then just hit bottlenecks in other parts of the system, such as RAM, system bus, drive IO and video IO. Are you doing something that is compute intensive but low bandwidth? Just hoping you aren't setting expectations too high after your upgrade. I would also note that a brand new 1TB drive in the box with warranty etc. is only about $85 with free shipping. So you might find selling your old drive probably isn't worth it. Maybe just leave it in there as some scratch space. You have four bays afterall. CB On 4/16/12 7:08 PM, Cody wrote: > Good evening all, > > I'm upgrading the processor in my mid 2010 mac pro from a Xeon W3530 > quad-core chip to a w3680 6 core chip. The W3530 runs at 2.8 GHZ. Nothing > at all wrong with the processor, just want to upgrade and get 2 more > cores for productivity. I'm asking $250 for the processor, and $10 > shipping. If interested, please hit me back. > > One x 1 tb internal sata3 drive, will be whiped before selling, asking > $50. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: facebook question, was Re: selecting files using VO.
There is an app called Menutab pro for Facebook. It's available from the Mac App store. It lives in the status menu of the mac, a part that voiceover can't reach with normal commands, however you can use a shortcut key which by default is control+f to make the programs window visible. The nice thing with the app is that it can show either the full or the mobile site so if one don't work for a particular task, just go to the button that switches mode and press it. The buttons are fully labeled so there should be no problems finding what the buttons do. 2 things that are a bit disturbing with the app, and i can't say if this is a Menutab pro issue or a voiceover one: When in the mobile version, when i read newsfeeds, every now and again the vo cursor jumps out of the html area and onto the home button for no apparent reason and when i try to interact with the html area again vo beeps at me as if there was nothing there, only thing to do is to use the tab key to get to the html area again. Another thing, and i don't know if this has to do with the actual site shown in the app is that when i'm in the mobile version of the facebook site in Menutab, i see the word "search" but there's no search field and i can't click anything to get a search field visible. Apart from that, Menutab pro works great. /Krister 18 apr 2012 kl. 07:29 skrev Teresa Cochran: > Ah, ok. Well, in the mobile site, you can navigate by links with > VO-command-L. On the full site, you can navigate by headings. each newsfeed > heading is a level 6, so once you get to a newsfeed on heading level 6, you > can then either press VO-command-h or VO-command-M (for same heading number. > > You can also use the VO rotor with VO-U, then find the headings with VO > right-arrow. Once you reach the headings area, just press down-arrow to go > through them. > > HTH, > Teresa > > "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: > >> I have lots of trouble moving from one newsfeed item to the other. >> On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >> >>> To me, most of the navigation is fairly self-explanatory. You might try >>> some more specific questions that might make it easier to get help. Is >>> there a particular aspect of navigation that you have trouble with? >>> >>> HTH, >>> Teresa >>> >>> "Man is matter's ability to contemplate itself."--Albert Einstein >>> >>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:27 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >>> Ok, how do you navigate the mobile one easily? That's the one I used on windows. I use focus for iPhone, but I'd really like to use fb on my macbook. On Apr 17, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > I use both the regular Facebook site and the Mobile one. I know a lot of > folks use different apps, but I'm not familiar with them. > > Teresa > > "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte > Saga > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: > >> Theresa, >> Thanks so much. It worked like a charm. >> Now, for another harder question. >> Can you give me tips on using facebook with safari. >> Is there an accessible facebook app for the mac? >> >> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >> >>> Hi, Stacey, >>> >>> Usually, when I select contiguous items, I just use shift and arrow >>> keys. Noncontiguous items are a little tricky. >>> >>> First, press VO-shift-f3 to turn cursor tracking off. This way, you >>> won't move your cursor when VO moves. Find each item and press >>> VO-command-spacebar to select it. Verify your selection by pressing >>> VO-f6. Once you are finished selecting, toggle cursor tracking back on >>> again with VO-shift-f3, and then perform whichever actions you need to >>> on the items. >>> >>> HTH, >>> Teresa >>> >>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte >>> Saga >>> >>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >>> Hi, Is there an easy way to select consecutive or nonconsecutive files using VO with SnowLeopard. If so, how do I do this. Thank you. Stacey and GEB dog Chesley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, se
Can VO be made to read Arabic
Hello all, I am working with someone who has been using a Mac visually and now needs to use VO. As part of his duties he needs to learn Arabic. Is there any means of VO reading Arabic? Are there any Arabic synthesizers available and does anything need to be installed on the Mac. The Mac is a recent US model IMac. thanks Frank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
drag and drop
Hi i hope your having a good day where ever you are, using lion 10.73 I tried to drag and drop a music file from downloads to an mp3 folder on the desktop but, when i tried to drop the file on the folder voiceover said the file was their, but when i went into the folder to find, it it didn't copy to the folder i wanted it in, has anybody had anything similar to this, or is it a one off occurrence? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Can VO be made to read Arabic
Hi, Lion comes with an Arabic voice. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Apr 18, 2012, at 5:42 AM, Frank Ventura wrote: > Hello all, I am working with someone who has been using a Mac visually and > now needs to use VO. As part of his duties he needs to learn Arabic. Is there > any means of VO reading Arabic? Are there any Arabic synthesizers available > and does anything need to be installed on the Mac. The Mac is a recent US > model IMac. > thanks > Frank > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: I'm going to scream, what am I doing wrong!
When I go to the subject line via that method, is it supposed to go word for word through the date to get to the subject line? Jenny On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:05 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Jennifer, > > I believe that you missing one Interaction step. > > • If you VO-right and VO reads "Hide", then go left to the Header area again. > • Interact with that Header area and VO-right past the sender's name to the > Subject. > • Then VO-left back to when you hear the sender's name again. > • At this point, press VO-shift-m to bring up the Contextual menu. > > What I believe is happening is that you may be misunderstanding the Header > areas. If VO reads "Message Header Group", then know that you're Interacting > with a "Group", therefore you may need to Interact with an object once again > in order to get to the proper level. In this case, the second Interaction > will take you to the "Message Header Text", and therefore you'll know that > you're within the correct area for the steps outlined above. > > Hope this helps to explain and to save your computer from hurling through the > air. > > Later... > > On 2012-04-17, at 6:54 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote: > >> Ah Jennifer I hear the sound of screaming as I write this reply. >> Don't give up. I've noticed that the way you are trying to reply doesn't >> always work for me either. It works for me if I go over to the subject then >> back again, then do vo-shift-m. Then I get the address, copy and whatever >> else is on that menu. >> It is definitely frustrating but once you find that exact thing you have to >> do to make it work for you it will go smoothly. >> I'd try going over to the subject once you've interacted then back to the >> name you want. I don't know if its a focus issue. Have you tried routing >> the mouse to the name you want with vo-command-f5? Just a thought. >> Hope this helps. >> Jim >> P.S. gargle some lemon water for that throat after the screaming is done. >> >> On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: >> >>> OK, I am trying, again, to reply to one person, however, when I navigate to >>> message headers then interact with it which gives me the person's name then >>> VO right arrow to what is hide, then VO left arrow to the from field again, >>> and then do VO shift M as in Mary. >>> >>> this idiotic computer won't give me the menu to reply to sender. It won't >>> give me a menu at all. >>> >>> there are things that I wouldn't change about this Mac. But right now. I >>> could smash it into a million peaces. >>> >>> What on earth am I missing. >>> >>> Jenny >>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>> To me, most of the navigation is fairly self-explanatory. You might try some more specific questions that might make it easier to get help. Is there a particular aspect of navigation that you have trouble with? HTH, Teresa "Man is matter's ability to contemplate itself."--Albert Einstein On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:27 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: > Ok, how do you navigate the mobile one easily? > That's the one I used on windows. > I use focus for iPhone, but I'd really like to use fb on my macbook. > On Apr 17, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > >> I use both the regular Facebook site and the Mobile one. I know a lot of >> folks use different apps, but I'm not familiar with them. >> >> Teresa >> >> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte >> Saga >> >> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >> >>> Theresa, >>> Thanks so much. It worked like a charm. >>> Now, for another harder question. >>> Can you give me tips on using facebook with safari. >>> Is there an accessible facebook app for the mac? >>> >>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>> Hi, Stacey, Usually, when I select contiguous items, I just use shift and arrow keys. Noncontiguous items are a little tricky. First, press VO-shift-f3 to turn cursor tracking off. This way, you won't move your cursor when VO moves. Find each item and press VO-command-spacebar to select it. Verify your selection by pressing VO-f6. Once you are finished selecting, toggle cursor tracking back on again with VO-shift-f3, and then perform whichever actions you need to on the items. HTH, Teresa "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: > Hi, > Is there an easy way to > select consecutive or nonconsecutive files using VO with SnowLeopard. > If so, how do I do this. > Thank you. > Stacey and GEB dog Chesley > >
RE: DAISY Reader
I have heard that indaisey is ok but that information was second hand so I cant comment on the app -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao Sent: 17 April 2012 11:34 To: macvisionaries Subject: DAISY Reader What DAISY readers are OS X users using with VoiceOver? Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: facebook question, was Re: selecting files using VO.
Theresa Thats just what I needed. Thanks. On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:29 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Ah, ok. Well, in the mobile site, you can navigate by links with > VO-command-L. On the full site, you can navigate by headings. each newsfeed > heading is a level 6, so once you get to a newsfeed on heading level 6, you > can then either press VO-command-h or VO-command-M (for same heading number. > > You can also use the VO rotor with VO-U, then find the headings with VO > right-arrow. Once you reach the headings area, just press down-arrow to go > through them. > > HTH, > Teresa > > "We are made of star-stuff"--Carl Sagan, Cosmos > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 7:25 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: > >> I have lots of trouble moving from one newsfeed item to the other. >> On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >> >>> To me, most of the navigation is fairly self-explanatory. You might try >>> some more specific questions that might make it easier to get help. Is >>> there a particular aspect of navigation that you have trouble with? >>> >>> HTH, >>> Teresa >>> >>> "Man is matter's ability to contemplate itself."--Albert Einstein >>> >>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:27 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >>> Ok, how do you navigate the mobile one easily? That's the one I used on windows. I use focus for iPhone, but I'd really like to use fb on my macbook. On Apr 17, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > I use both the regular Facebook site and the Mobile one. I know a lot of > folks use different apps, but I'm not familiar with them. > > Teresa > > "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte > Saga > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: > >> Theresa, >> Thanks so much. It worked like a charm. >> Now, for another harder question. >> Can you give me tips on using facebook with safari. >> Is there an accessible facebook app for the mac? >> >> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >> >>> Hi, Stacey, >>> >>> Usually, when I select contiguous items, I just use shift and arrow >>> keys. Noncontiguous items are a little tricky. >>> >>> First, press VO-shift-f3 to turn cursor tracking off. This way, you >>> won't move your cursor when VO moves. Find each item and press >>> VO-command-spacebar to select it. Verify your selection by pressing >>> VO-f6. Once you are finished selecting, toggle cursor tracking back on >>> again with VO-shift-f3, and then perform whichever actions you need to >>> on the items. >>> >>> HTH, >>> Teresa >>> >>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte >>> Saga >>> >>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >>> Hi, Is there an easy way to select consecutive or nonconsecutive files using VO with SnowLeopard. If so, how do I do this. Thank you. Stacey and GEB dog Chesley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send
Re: Selecting files using vo.
Ricardo, Thanks, if I am in a group of emails and I want to delete some of them, that aren't together, how can I do this. I suspect it may be a different process. On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:27 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > I don't find it necessary to turn cursor tracking off. When in the finder, I > just make sure I'm interacting with the browser, pressVO command space on the > item I want to select, and make sure I go to the next item by pressing VO up > or down arrow. Just using the arrows by themselves will deselect whatever > you have selected.in > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Teresa Cochran > wrote: > >> Hi, Stacey, >> >> Usually, when I select contiguous items, I just use shift and arrow keys. >> Noncontiguous items are a little tricky. >> >> First, press VO-shift-f3 to turn cursor tracking off. This way, you won't >> move your cursor when VO moves. Find each item and press VO-command-spacebar >> to select it. Verify your selection by pressing VO-f6. Once you are finished >> selecting, toggle cursor tracking back on again with VO-shift-f3, and then >> perform whichever actions you need to on the items. >> >> HTH, >> Teresa >> >> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga >> >> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> Is there an easy way to >>> select consecutive or nonconsecutive files using VO with SnowLeopard. >>> If so, how do I do this. >>> Thank you. >>> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: drag and drop
How do you drag and drop something using VO? I've tried this with no success. I should say, I've tried to try it. On Apr 18, 2012, at 6:04 AM, Gerry Cook wrote: > Hi i hope your having a good day where ever you are, using lion 10.73 I tried > to drag and drop a music file from downloads to an mp3 folder on the desktop > but, when i tried to drop the file on the folder voiceover said the file was > their, but when i went into the folder to find, it it didn't copy to the > folder i wanted it in, has anybody had anything similar to this, or is it a > one off occurrence? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: I'm going to scream, what am I doing wrong!
Using this method, when you first Interact with the "Message Header Text" area, navigating with VO-right, it should read the word "From", then the sender's name, then it will move to the next line and read the word "Subject" and if you continued, it would read the actual subject then move onto the the next line to read the Date info. Now, if you navigate left with VO-left, the first thing that it will read is the last thing it said when going right, then it will move back through each item. You need to think of Interacting with as a method of drilling into the the body to get more and more detailed info. This process makes things quicker to navigate overall but can confuse you if you're not understanding it or familiar with the concept. For example, in the case of Mail, if you were just navigating around the Mail window, you can simply hear about the layout of all the elements within the Mail window. When you Interact with the "Message Content" area, you'll get two items, the "Sort" menu item and the "Message Table". You need to Interact with that Table in order to learn about all the messages that reside within. Then you can navigate through the messages with arrow keys or with VO-arrow keys. When you get to the message you wish to read in full, press return or VO-j if you prefer that method. Now, the message will be open and VO will read it in full. This is the point where you can Interact with the Header info inorder to dig deeper into its details. Hopefully this clears up some layout and logistics for you. Later... On 2012-04-18, at 5:26 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: > When I go to the subject line via that method, is it supposed to go word for > word through the date to get to the subject line? > > Jenny > On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:05 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > >> Jennifer, >> >> I believe that you missing one Interaction step. >> >> • If you VO-right and VO reads "Hide", then go left to the Header area again. >> • Interact with that Header area and VO-right past the sender's name to the >> Subject. >> • Then VO-left back to when you hear the sender's name again. >> • At this point, press VO-shift-m to bring up the Contextual menu. >> >> What I believe is happening is that you may be misunderstanding the Header >> areas. If VO reads "Message Header Group", then know that you're >> Interacting with a "Group", therefore you may need to Interact with an >> object once again in order to get to the proper level. In this case, the >> second Interaction will take you to the "Message Header Text", and therefore >> you'll know that you're within the correct area for the steps outlined above. >> >> Hope this helps to explain and to save your computer from hurling through >> the air. >> >> Later... >> >> On 2012-04-17, at 6:54 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote: >> >>> Ah Jennifer I hear the sound of screaming as I write this reply. >>> Don't give up. I've noticed that the way you are trying to reply doesn't >>> always work for me either. It works for me if I go over to the subject >>> then back again, then do vo-shift-m. Then I get the address, copy and >>> whatever else is on that menu. >>> It is definitely frustrating but once you find that exact thing you have to >>> do to make it work for you it will go smoothly. >>> I'd try going over to the subject once you've interacted then back to the >>> name you want. I don't know if its a focus issue. Have you tried routing >>> the mouse to the name you want with vo-command-f5? Just a thought. >>> Hope this helps. >>> Jim >>> P.S. gargle some lemon water for that throat after the screaming is done. >>> >>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: >>> OK, I am trying, again, to reply to one person, however, when I navigate to message headers then interact with it which gives me the person's name then VO right arrow to what is hide, then VO left arrow to the from field again, and then do VO shift M as in Mary. this idiotic computer won't give me the menu to reply to sender. It won't give me a menu at all. there are things that I wouldn't change about this Mac. But right now. I could smash it into a million peaces. What on earth am I missing. Jenny On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > To me, most of the navigation is fairly self-explanatory. You might try > some more specific questions that might make it easier to get help. Is > there a particular aspect of navigation that you have trouble with? > > HTH, > Teresa > > "Man is matter's ability to contemplate itself."--Albert Einstein > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:27 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote: > >> Ok, how do you navigate the mobile one easily? >> That's the one I used on windows. >> I use focus for iPhone, but I'd really like to use fb on my macbook. >> On Apr 17, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Teresa Cochran
Re: Selecting files using vo.
Hi, I just tried it in Mail because I wasn't sure but, its the same process. Interact with the messages table, navigate to the items you want to select, press VO command space, press VO up or down to the next message you want to select and repeat as necessary. You can then press VO F6 to see how many items you have selected. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Apr 18, 2012, at 9:04 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: > Ricardo, > Thanks, if I am in a group of emails and I want to delete some of them, that > aren't together, how can I do this. > I suspect it may be a different process. > On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:27 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I don't find it necessary to turn cursor tracking off. When in the finder, >> I just make sure I'm interacting with the browser, pressVO command space on >> the item I want to select, and make sure I go to the next item by pressing >> VO up or down arrow. Just using the arrows by themselves will deselect >> whatever you have selected.in >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> On Apr 17, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Teresa Cochran >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, Stacey, >>> >>> Usually, when I select contiguous items, I just use shift and arrow keys. >>> Noncontiguous items are a little tricky. >>> >>> First, press VO-shift-f3 to turn cursor tracking off. This way, you won't >>> move your cursor when VO moves. Find each item and press >>> VO-command-spacebar to select it. Verify your selection by pressing VO-f6. >>> Once you are finished selecting, toggle cursor tracking back on again with >>> VO-shift-f3, and then perform whichever actions you need to on the items. >>> >>> HTH, >>> Teresa >>> >>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga >>> >>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >>> Hi, Is there an easy way to select consecutive or nonconsecutive files using VO with SnowLeopard. If so, how do I do this. Thank you. Stacey and GEB dog Chesley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Selecting files with VO
Hi all, I've got it now. Thanks to everyone for your help. I might learn to use this mac after all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Intel Xeon W3530 quad-core processor and internal storage
Yup. I'll be curious to know how it goes. My last attempt at upgrading a CPU was back in the Sonnet Systems and NewerTechnologies days (pre-Intel). Today my fleet of Macs is a Mini which I can't upgrade, a MacBook which I can't upgrade and my old G4 tower, which isn't worth upgrading. So I hadn't really looked into it much. Used Mac Pro towers are still pretty expensive which I guess is a testament to how well they hold up over time and maybe because they are so upgradable. Good luck with the project! CB On 4/18/12 3:33 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: depending on the CPU installation, the same heat sink and fan can be used, that is depending on how far the processor upgrade goes. it's an easy job to do as long as you're careful. I've done this on various macs in my time including major overhauls, turning a G3 blue and white into a monster system, etc. as long as you know the firmware limitations and hardware reliances, you're fine. the key thing is confidence in your ability to do the job and a knowledge of test and diagnostics. lew On 18 Apr 2012, at 08:30, Cody Hurst wrote: Processor upgrades are fairly simple. You just have to do reading beforehand. In this case, all parts will fit together properly with no extra modification needed. Just today, I installed and SSD hard drive and added 16 gigs of ram my computer. So I'm used to all of this. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:26 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: I was googling around and the upgrade process sounded non-trivial with acetone used to clean the heat paste off the old heat sinks to re-attach them to the new processors. Dunno if I would attempt that. CB On 4/18/12 12:23 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, I was thinking the same thing. In more cases than not, upgrading your processor is more trouble than what its worth. Won't upgrading the processor also mean a new heat sync and fan as well? The easiest way to improve performance is to always upgrade RAM IMO. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Apr 17, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: I'm curious about your upgrade. In the past CPU upgrades were kind of diminishing returns since you then just hit bottlenecks in other parts of the system, such as RAM, system bus, drive IO and video IO. Are you doing something that is compute intensive but low bandwidth? Just hoping you aren't setting expectations too high after your upgrade. I would also note that a brand new 1TB drive in the box with warranty etc. is only about $85 with free shipping. So you might find selling your old drive probably isn't worth it. Maybe just leave it in there as some scratch space. You have four bays afterall. CB On 4/16/12 7:08 PM, Cody wrote: Good evening all, I'm upgrading the processor in my mid 2010 mac pro from a Xeon W3530 quad-core chip to a w3680 6 core chip. The W3530 runs at 2.8 GHZ. Nothing at all wrong with the processor, just want to upgrade and get 2 more cores for productivity. I'm asking $250 for the processor, and $10 shipping. If interested, please hit me back. One x 1 tb internal sata3 drive, will be whiped before selling, asking $50. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: I'm going to scream, what am I doing wrong!
I wonder, can you use Items Chooser menu to search for "from?" I wonder if that might be easier, at this point, than navigating to it, until navigation is more second nature? • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you put the name to a pages document in IOS
That's a good workdaround, but I think they should fix this as soon as possible. It is necessary that one can rename a file with Voice Over during the whole process. Right now I will report this to Apple Accessibility! 2012/4/15, Daniela Rubio : > Thank you again Ann. Now it is done. A friend of mine who is not so fine > with his fingers will not be so happy when I tell him how to do it ... lol! > When you wish, let me know when you and Arch are available again. > Take care! > > > SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. > MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. > EN TWITTER: @macneticos > NUESTRO BLOG EN: > www.macneticus.blogspot.com > Y EL PODCAST EN:` > http://macneticos.libsyn.com > > > > El 15/04/2012, a las 19:04, Anne Robertson escribió: > >> Hello Daniela, >> >> >> Here's how to rename a Pages document on an iPhone, I assume it works the >> same way with an iPad. Warning: you need a steady hand. >> >> You have to select Documents, then in the list of documents, the one >> you've just created will be called something like Blank, probably followed >> by a number. Place one finger on the one you wish to rename, toggle >> VoiceOver off, double-tap with that one finger, then toggle VoiceOver back >> on again. You'll be in an edit field which is the file name. Type the new >> name, then tap Done. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> On 15 Apr 2012, at 17:15, Daniela Rubio wrote: >> >>> Hi all! >>> Please, SOS. How do I put the name to a pages document in IOS version >>> using an iPad >>> ? >>> I go to documents and select the document and the date, but I can't find >>> the text field where to put a name. >>> thank yous o much for your help! >>> ? >>> SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. >>> MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. >>> EN TWITTER: @macneticos >>> NUESTRO BLOG EN: >>> www.macneticus.blogspot.com >>> Y EL PODCAST EN:` >>> http://macneticos.libsyn.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: I'm going to scream, what am I doing wrong!
Nope, just tried it to see and that aint gonna work. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Apr 18, 2012, at 9:22 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > I wonder, can you use Items Chooser menu to search for "from?" I wonder if > that might be easier, at this point, than navigating to it, until navigation > is more second nature? > > > • Mark BurningHawk Baxter > • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > • My home page: > • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Disabling the preview pane in Lion mail
Hi Esther and Buddy, I want to thank you both for the ideas for using mail in the newer "modern" view and being able to close up the message body pane. It works great for me now and the read/unread flags don't get changed by merely going up and down the message list anymore. I think mail on the Mac may actually become a pleasure to work with now. OK mutt, better step aside now. Oh, mutt is that other mail client I love so much:). On 4/16/12, Esther wrote: > Hi Ioana, > > If you're using the IOGear Bluetooth keyboard, I'm not sure how that works > on the splitters. (The "small" keyboard description was the give-away -- > everyone who recommends that keyboard for touch typing adds the comment, > "but I have small hands".) Yes, that keyboard has a num lock key in the > F-key row, just as my 12" PowerBook G4 laptop does. (I got this laptop when > I first joined the Macvisionaries list, back when I still used a dial-up > connection. It was my first Mac, and it still works.) And you can use that > laptop to type numpad style numbers with and embedded keyboard using the Fn > key plus the letters on the right side of the keyboard (in the numpad > region), just as I can on the PowerBook (in Tiger). I think you can activate > the numeric functions when paired to the Mac by pressing the Numlock key -- > which may be F6 -- without turning on NumPad Commander. But I don't think > the modified NumPad Commander keys will work on this, such as using the > Control key. I can't be sure, because I don't use this keyboard with my > laptop, and only checked out its pairing behavior to learn what it could do. > I'd have to use this in place of my Mac's laptop keyboard to check this > out. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Apr 16, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: > >> Pretty good explanation Esther as usually. >> >> A few observations however.1. I have a small keyboard and activate numpad >> keys with fn +letter keys but you are right that I do have numpad condor >> on. >> 2. Control numpad 5 did not work for the vertical splitter on my mac mini. >> Neither did vo shift space. Heard sound of click but nothing else >> happened. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ioana >> Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online >> stores. >> >> On Apr 16, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi Ioana, >>> >>> That's an "Oops!". I keep forgetting that the VoiceOver Getting Started >>> manual used to recommend that you should not turn on Mouse Keys if you >>> have NumPad Commander turned on. I only remember that from the Leopard >>> guide. You have a Mac Mini, and are using a full-sized keyboard with a >>> numpad. I'm used to using the laptop keyboard, so I only turn on NumPad >>> Commander when I want to attach a USB numpad or do fancy simulations of >>> numpad actions with the top row of number keys in combination with an >>> arrow key. (This will let you access the unmodified NumPad Commander >>> sequences for the same keys on the numeric keypad.) >>> >>> What happened when support for the embedded numeric keypad in laptops >>> went away in Leopard, I found I could use some of the keys by turning >>> MouseKeys on. But the side effect was that some of your control keys >>> (like the Command key, as I recall) don't work in VoiceOver any more, so >>> that is doubtless why they told us not to try using both NumPad Commander >>> and Mouse Keys simultaneously in Leopard. In later versions of OS X I >>> bet they simply disabled some of the functions if you have both modes >>> activated. >>> >>> Regardless of the "Oops!", people who have full keyboards with NumPad >>> Commander activated can use their numpad to click on the splitter for the >>> Preview pane in Mail by pressing Control+"5" in Snow Leopard and Lion. >>> The "5" is the key on the numpad. No need to turn on Mouse Keys. >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:03 AM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: >>> HI all, I had a strange behavior with Esther's procedure. I placed mouse pointer on vertical splitter, turned mouse keys on and when pressing I key just heard a ding. It worked when I performed the FN +i on my keyboard to get the numpad 5 but only after turning vo off. What ever works as they say. I also tried it with quicknav on or off in case the quicknav keys were interfering with mouse keys but nope. I a not even going to go there to try to get why this is. IF others are so inlined have fun puzzling it out. Smile. Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. On Apr 15, 2012, at 10:01 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Buddy and Jon, > > This was interesting. I just re-enabled and disabled the Preview pane > in the new mail view for Lion by clicking on the vertical splitter, but > I did it with mouse keys. I was using Mouse pointer ignores VoiceOver > Cursor for my navigation trackin
Numbers, Can it read column and row titles?
Hi all this is pretty urgent. I need to use numbers to do a class assignment. I need to know if VO can read cullumn titles and row titles like JAWS can. Thanks. Becky and Ceil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Checkbook vs Checkbook Pro?
I remember someone recommending Checkbook to do Well, checkbook management on the Mac. When I looked in the app store this morning, I saw two Checkbook apps there; Checkbook for $14.95 and Checkbook Pro for $19.95 or so. Does anyone know the difference between them? I may just go for the cheaper one but wonder if the Pro version has something I would miss. Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iMovie questions for Mike
Hey! Sorry I took so long to write you back. I also found where it said it creates an audio track. I have never been able to find it though. I will do a little messing around with the music to find out how to loop a track. I know it is possible. I have done it once by accident ha ha. To merge multiple clips into one I just import them one at a time then copy and paste them into the project browser. The problem I have found is that I can't re order them. as you drop new videos into the browser it just puts them right in the middle of the group. It gets awful messy. You could put the videos in a folder in a specific order though and just import the whole folder. That way they will stay in the order you placed them in. this is all I have found that works. Hope this helps!! Mike Malarsie On Apr 16, 2012, at 4:40 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: > Hey Mike, I wants to your YouTube video about adding sound effects into a > video. However, I researched this also on Google, and I found that it should > create a separate audio track in the project browser group. I'm not certain > on how to create this audio track, and for editing purposes, it's kind of > difficult. Also, if I want to add a song into my movie, how do Literint the > part that I want to use, save the music, and have it overlapped with > different video clips. Also, I'd like to be able to splice different video > clips together. Is this possible? Thanks. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 16, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Michael Malarsie > wrote: > >> Hello!! >> So I am going to include a link about how to add sounds effects in iMovie. >> The way I do it is to drop the music or sounds into the project browser >> group. >> I still haven't figured out how to make the sounds show up in the timeline >> but I am still trying to get that figured out. Let me know if this link is >> helpful. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIce1sCgYZg >> >> Mike Malarsie >> On Apr 16, 2012, at 2:22 AM, Cody wrote: >> >>> Hi there, >>> >>> This email is for Mike Malarsie or whoever is able to help me out with >>> iMovie. >>> >>> I'm able to create video clips and edit them just fine, but I'm wondering >>> about inserting audio. Say how do I clip a segment of audio? Do I import it >>> to the event group or do I drag it into the project browser group? I >>> dragged and dropped into the browser group, and apparently it worked, but I >>> don't see it in the timeline of all my events. I'd also like to be able to >>> insert audio snippets at random placeds into a video project, can anyone >>> give me some info on this? Thanks.. >>> >>> Cody >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Numbers, Can it read column and row titles?
Hello Becky, Yes, VO can announce headers. In VoiceOver Utility, Verbosity, announcements, check the Speak header when navigating across a table row check box. When navigating along a row, you'll hear the column number, the contents of the cell and then the header name. You can get both cell coordinates by pressing VO-Shift-t. Cheers, Anne On 18 Apr 2012, at 18:34, Becky Knaub wrote: > Hi all this is pretty urgent. > I need to use numbers to do a class assignment. I need to know if VO can > read cullumn titles and row titles like JAWS can. Thanks. > > Becky and Ceil > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: drag and drop
I'd like to know the same thing. I use Lion. Jenny On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: > How do you drag and drop something using VO? I've tried this with no success. > I should say, I've tried to try it. > > On Apr 18, 2012, at 6:04 AM, Gerry Cook wrote: > >> Hi i hope your having a good day where ever you are, using lion 10.73 I >> tried to drag and drop a music file from downloads to an mp3 folder on the >> desktop but, when i tried to drop the file on the folder voiceover said the >> file was their, but when i went into the folder to find, it it didn't copy >> to the folder i wanted it in, has anybody had anything similar to this, or >> is it a one off occurrence? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: I'm going to scream, what am I doing wrong!
Mine doesn't do that, I VO shift down arrow and when it says interacting with headers, I right arrow and it says hide. I VO left arrow and it gives the name of the person again, but when I do the VO shift M it does nothing most of the time, but when it get a whim, sometimes, it will give me the menu. Am I still doing something wrong? Jenny On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Using this method, when you first Interact with the "Message Header Text" > area, navigating with VO-right, it should read the word "From", then the > sender's name, then it will move to the next line and read the word "Subject" > and if you continued, it would read the actual subject then move onto the the > next line to read the Date info. Now, if you navigate left with VO-left, the > first thing that it will read is the last thing it said when going right, > then it will move back through each item. > > You need to think of Interacting with as a method of drilling into the the > body to get more and more detailed info. This process makes things quicker > to navigate overall but can confuse you if you're not understanding it or > familiar with the concept. For example, in the case of Mail, if you were > just navigating around the Mail window, you can simply hear about the layout > of all the elements within the Mail window. When you Interact with the > "Message Content" area, you'll get two items, the "Sort" menu item and the > "Message Table". You need to Interact with that Table in order to learn > about all the messages that reside within. Then you can navigate through the > messages with arrow keys or with VO-arrow keys. When you get to the message > you wish to read in full, press return or VO-j if you prefer that method. > Now, the message will be open and VO will read it in full. This is the point > where you can Interact with the Header info inorder to dig deeper into its > details. > > Hopefully this clears up some layout and logistics for you. > > Later... > > On 2012-04-18, at 5:26 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: > >> When I go to the subject line via that method, is it supposed to go word for >> word through the date to get to the subject line? >> >> Jenny >> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:05 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >> >>> Jennifer, >>> >>> I believe that you missing one Interaction step. >>> >>> • If you VO-right and VO reads "Hide", then go left to the Header area >>> again. >>> • Interact with that Header area and VO-right past the sender's name to the >>> Subject. >>> • Then VO-left back to when you hear the sender's name again. >>> • At this point, press VO-shift-m to bring up the Contextual menu. >>> >>> What I believe is happening is that you may be misunderstanding the Header >>> areas. If VO reads "Message Header Group", then know that you're >>> Interacting with a "Group", therefore you may need to Interact with an >>> object once again in order to get to the proper level. In this case, the >>> second Interaction will take you to the "Message Header Text", and >>> therefore you'll know that you're within the correct area for the steps >>> outlined above. >>> >>> Hope this helps to explain and to save your computer from hurling through >>> the air. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> On 2012-04-17, at 6:54 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote: >>> Ah Jennifer I hear the sound of screaming as I write this reply. Don't give up. I've noticed that the way you are trying to reply doesn't always work for me either. It works for me if I go over to the subject then back again, then do vo-shift-m. Then I get the address, copy and whatever else is on that menu. It is definitely frustrating but once you find that exact thing you have to do to make it work for you it will go smoothly. I'd try going over to the subject once you've interacted then back to the name you want. I don't know if its a focus issue. Have you tried routing the mouse to the name you want with vo-command-f5? Just a thought. Hope this helps. Jim P.S. gargle some lemon water for that throat after the screaming is done. On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: > OK, I am trying, again, to reply to one person, however, when I navigate > to message headers then interact with it which gives me the person's name > then VO right arrow to what is hide, then VO left arrow to the from field > again, and then do VO shift M as in Mary. > > this idiotic computer won't give me the menu to reply to sender. It > won't give me a menu at all. > > there are things that I wouldn't change about this Mac. But right now. > I could smash it into a million peaces. > > What on earth am I missing. > > Jenny > On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > >> To me, most of the navigation is fairly self-explanatory. You might try >> some more specific q
How To Import WebBraille Books Into IBooks
Hi, all, I don't usually cross-post, but this seems like an instance in which it would be beneficial. I'm going to share with you all the way I've successfully imported WebBraille books to read in IBooks. There are other methods of reading these on the IPhone/IPod, but this method will allow you to keep your place in the book when you need to pause reading. I used TextEdit on the Mac to open the file and export it to pdf. Check your text-editor's documentation on exporting to pdf if you're using another OS or editor. This method will only work with a braille display, and does *not* work with speech. I haven't tested it on other brf files, but you might give it a try. 1. Open a brf WebBraille file in TextEdit. If you don't like the uppercase dot-7 caps appearing for all of the characters, select all the text, go into the edit menu, choose "transformations" and change to lower case. At this point, you can check the document with the braille display to see if it is readable. Use eight-dot Braille, uncontracted. 2. From the file menu in TextEdit, choose "export to pdf". In the save dialog, you'll be presented with a filename with a pdf extension. Save the file in a place that's easy to find. 3. In Itunes add the file you just saved to your library. It will appear in your Books list. 4. Use whichever sync settings you've specified to sync this book to your IDevice. I usually do this manually, placing the file in my Ipod/books playlist. 5. Open IBooks and find the file in your IBooks library. Change Braille to eight-dot, uncontracted. Use dots 3- and 6-chord at the page chooser to switch pages. Enjoy. Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: drag and drop
Hi Jenny. I have just forgotten about drag and drop; I'm using the king of the beasts also. The reason it doesn't always work is that, if you are totally blind like me,you can't tell if something went off the screen or not when you get ready to drop it. If it goes off the screen, it won't drop. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: > I'd like to know the same thing. I use Lion. > > Jenny > On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: > >> How do you drag and drop something using VO? I've tried this with no >> success. I should say, I've tried to try it. >> >> On Apr 18, 2012, at 6:04 AM, Gerry Cook wrote: >> >>> Hi i hope your having a good day where ever you are, using lion 10.73 I >>> tried to drag and drop a music file from downloads to an mp3 folder on the >>> desktop but, when i tried to drop the file on the folder voiceover said the >>> file was their, but when i went into the folder to find, it it didn't copy >>> to the folder i wanted it in, has anybody had anything similar to this, or >>> is it a one off occurrence? >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: I'm going to scream, what am I doing wrong!
I can get to the from field in the headers, it's the menu that won't come up whether I interact with it or not. When I do interact with the headers field and get the from field, I VO arrow right and get the hide something or another, I VO left arrow to go back to the from field which I understand should allow me to get to the menu field but nothing happens. When I VO right arrow to the field after the from field it says hide, not the subject. Am I that inept? Jenny On Apr 18, 2012, at 9:22 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > I wonder, can you use Items Chooser menu to search for "from?" I wonder if > that might be easier, at this point, than navigating to it, until navigation > is more second nature? > > > • Mark BurningHawk Baxter > • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > • My home page: > • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Checkbook vs Checkbook Pro?
I'd like to know the same thing. Though my bank sends me every deposit and withdrawal that is made in my checking account, also it sends me daily account balances, but sometimes it forgets to send the balances, and sometimes transactions don't hit the bank until a few days later. I'd love to know about an accessible checkbook program for the Mac as well. Thanks for asking that question. Jenny On Apr 18, 2012, at 11:35 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: > I remember someone recommending Checkbook to do Well, checkbook > management on the Mac. When I looked in the app store this morning, I > saw two Checkbook apps there; Checkbook for $14.95 and Checkbook Pro > for $19.95 or so. Does anyone know the difference between them? I may > just go for the cheaper one but wonder if the Pro version has > something I would miss. > > Any ideas? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: drag and drop
Hi, I don't use the track pad anyway. I only have the keyboard, so will drag and drop work with just the keyboard? Jenny On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > Hi Jenny. > I have just forgotten about drag and drop; I'm using the king of the beasts > also. The reason it doesn't always work is that, if you are totally blind > like me,you can't tell if something went off the screen or not when you get > ready to drop it. If it goes off the screen, it won't drop. > > Regards, > Gigi > > Eugenia Firth > gigifi...@sbcglobal.net > > > > On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: > >> I'd like to know the same thing. I use Lion. >> >> Jenny >> On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >> >>> How do you drag and drop something using VO? I've tried this with no >>> success. I should say, I've tried to try it. >>> >>> On Apr 18, 2012, at 6:04 AM, Gerry Cook wrote: >>> Hi i hope your having a good day where ever you are, using lion 10.73 I tried to drag and drop a music file from downloads to an mp3 folder on the desktop but, when i tried to drop the file on the folder voiceover said the file was their, but when i went into the folder to find, it it didn't copy to the folder i wanted it in, has anybody had anything similar to this, or is it a one off occurrence? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: drag and drop
Yep, it works: vo , for drag and vo . for drop. irid domnori irid.domn...@gmail.com contatto skype: superirid Il giorno 18/apr/2012, alle ore 21:07, Jennifer Perdue ha scritto: Hi, I don't use the track pad anyway. I only have the keyboard, so will drag and drop work with just the keyboard? Jenny On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > Hi Jenny. > I have just forgotten about drag and drop; I'm using the king of the beasts > also. The reason it doesn't always work is that, if you are totally blind > like me,you can't tell if something went off the screen or not when you get > ready to drop it. If it goes off the screen, it won't drop. > > Regards, > Gigi > > Eugenia Firth > gigifi...@sbcglobal.net > > > > On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: > >> I'd like to know the same thing. I use Lion. >> >> Jenny >> On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >> >>> How do you drag and drop something using VO? I've tried this with no >>> success. I should say, I've tried to try it. >>> >>> On Apr 18, 2012, at 6:04 AM, Gerry Cook wrote: >>> Hi i hope your having a good day where ever you are, using lion 10.73 I tried to drag and drop a music file from downloads to an mp3 folder on the desktop but, when i tried to drop the file on the folder voiceover said the file was their, but when i went into the folder to find, it it didn't copy to the folder i wanted it in, has anybody had anything similar to this, or is it a one off occurrence? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: drag and drop
Hi, I'm confused because I only received the VO command for drag and VO command for drop. Don't you have to press another key besides VO to drag, and VO and another letter to drop it? Jenny On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:11 PM, irid domnori wrote: > Yep, it works: vo , for drag and vo . for drop. > > irid domnori > irid.domn...@gmail.com > contatto skype: superirid > > > > Il giorno 18/apr/2012, alle ore 21:07, Jennifer Perdue ha scritto: > > Hi, > > I don't use the track pad anyway. I only have the keyboard, so will drag and > drop work with just the keyboard? > > Jenny > On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > >> Hi Jenny. >> I have just forgotten about drag and drop; I'm using the king of the beasts >> also. The reason it doesn't always work is that, if you are totally blind >> like me,you can't tell if something went off the screen or not when you get >> ready to drop it. If it goes off the screen, it won't drop. >> >> Regards, >> Gigi >> >> Eugenia Firth >> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net >> >> >> >> On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: >> >>> I'd like to know the same thing. I use Lion. >>> >>> Jenny >>> On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >>> How do you drag and drop something using VO? I've tried this with no success. I should say, I've tried to try it. On Apr 18, 2012, at 6:04 AM, Gerry Cook wrote: > Hi i hope your having a good day where ever you are, using lion 10.73 I > tried to drag and drop a music file from downloads to an mp3 folder on > the desktop but, when i tried to drop the file on the folder voiceover > said the file was their, but when i went into the folder to find, it it > didn't copy to the folder i wanted it in, has anybody had anything > similar to this, or is it a one off occurrence? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: I'm going to scream, what am I doing wrong!
jenniffer, i don't think you are doing anything wrong. it works for me every time but i'm using the keyboard on my macbook pro. once on the email address that v o and m for menu should work. i'm sorry i can't help any better. take care, max On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: > Mine doesn't do that, I VO shift down arrow and when it says interacting with > headers, I right arrow and it says hide. I VO left arrow and it gives the > name of the person again, but when I do the VO shift M it does nothing most > of the time, but when it get a whim, sometimes, it will give me the menu. > > Am I still doing something wrong? > > Jenny > On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > >> Using this method, when you first Interact with the "Message Header Text" >> area, navigating with VO-right, it should read the word "From", then the >> sender's name, then it will move to the next line and read the word >> "Subject" and if you continued, it would read the actual subject then move >> onto the the next line to read the Date info. Now, if you navigate left >> with VO-left, the first thing that it will read is the last thing it said >> when going right, then it will move back through each item. >> >> You need to think of Interacting with as a method of drilling into the the >> body to get more and more detailed info. This process makes things quicker >> to navigate overall but can confuse you if you're not understanding it or >> familiar with the concept. For example, in the case of Mail, if you were >> just navigating around the Mail window, you can simply hear about the layout >> of all the elements within the Mail window. When you Interact with the >> "Message Content" area, you'll get two items, the "Sort" menu item and the >> "Message Table". You need to Interact with that Table in order to learn >> about all the messages that reside within. Then you can navigate through >> the messages with arrow keys or with VO-arrow keys. When you get to the >> message you wish to read in full, press return or VO-j if you prefer that >> method. Now, the message will be open and VO will read it in full. This is >> the point where you can Interact with the Header info inorder to dig deeper >> into its details. >> >> Hopefully this clears up some layout and logistics for you. >> >> Later... >> >> On 2012-04-18, at 5:26 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: >> >>> When I go to the subject line via that method, is it supposed to go word >>> for word through the date to get to the subject line? >>> >>> Jenny >>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:05 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >>> Jennifer, I believe that you missing one Interaction step. • If you VO-right and VO reads "Hide", then go left to the Header area again. • Interact with that Header area and VO-right past the sender's name to the Subject. • Then VO-left back to when you hear the sender's name again. • At this point, press VO-shift-m to bring up the Contextual menu. What I believe is happening is that you may be misunderstanding the Header areas. If VO reads "Message Header Group", then know that you're Interacting with a "Group", therefore you may need to Interact with an object once again in order to get to the proper level. In this case, the second Interaction will take you to the "Message Header Text", and therefore you'll know that you're within the correct area for the steps outlined above. Hope this helps to explain and to save your computer from hurling through the air. Later... On 2012-04-17, at 6:54 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote: > Ah Jennifer I hear the sound of screaming as I write this reply. > Don't give up. I've noticed that the way you are trying to reply doesn't > always work for me either. It works for me if I go over to the subject > then back again, then do vo-shift-m. Then I get the address, copy and > whatever else is on that menu. > It is definitely frustrating but once you find that exact thing you have > to do to make it work for you it will go smoothly. > I'd try going over to the subject once you've interacted then back to the > name you want. I don't know if its a focus issue. Have you tried > routing the mouse to the name you want with vo-command-f5? Just a > thought. > Hope this helps. > Jim > P.S. gargle some lemon water for that throat after the screaming is done. > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: > >> OK, I am trying, again, to reply to one person, however, when I navigate >> to message headers then interact with it which gives me the person's >> name then VO right arrow to what is hide, then VO left arrow to the from >> field again, and then do VO shift M as in Mary. >> >> this idiotic computer won't give me the menu to reply to se
Re: I'm going to scream, what am I doing wrong!
thanks for your help. Jenny On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: > jenniffer, i don't think you are doing anything wrong. it works for me every > time but i'm using the keyboard on my macbook pro. once on the email address > that v o and m for menu should work. i'm sorry i can't help any better. take > care, max > On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:28 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: > >> Mine doesn't do that, I VO shift down arrow and when it says interacting >> with headers, I right arrow and it says hide. I VO left arrow and it gives >> the name of the person again, but when I do the VO shift M it does nothing >> most of the time, but when it get a whim, sometimes, it will give me the >> menu. >> >> Am I still doing something wrong? >> >> Jenny >> On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >> >>> Using this method, when you first Interact with the "Message Header Text" >>> area, navigating with VO-right, it should read the word "From", then the >>> sender's name, then it will move to the next line and read the word >>> "Subject" and if you continued, it would read the actual subject then move >>> onto the the next line to read the Date info. Now, if you navigate left >>> with VO-left, the first thing that it will read is the last thing it said >>> when going right, then it will move back through each item. >>> >>> You need to think of Interacting with as a method of drilling into the the >>> body to get more and more detailed info. This process makes things quicker >>> to navigate overall but can confuse you if you're not understanding it or >>> familiar with the concept. For example, in the case of Mail, if you were >>> just navigating around the Mail window, you can simply hear about the >>> layout of all the elements within the Mail window. When you Interact with >>> the "Message Content" area, you'll get two items, the "Sort" menu item and >>> the "Message Table". You need to Interact with that Table in order to >>> learn about all the messages that reside within. Then you can navigate >>> through the messages with arrow keys or with VO-arrow keys. When you get >>> to the message you wish to read in full, press return or VO-j if you prefer >>> that method. Now, the message will be open and VO will read it in full. >>> This is the point where you can Interact with the Header info inorder to >>> dig deeper into its details. >>> >>> Hopefully this clears up some layout and logistics for you. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> On 2012-04-18, at 5:26 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: >>> When I go to the subject line via that method, is it supposed to go word for word through the date to get to the subject line? Jenny On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:05 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Jennifer, > > I believe that you missing one Interaction step. > > • If you VO-right and VO reads "Hide", then go left to the Header area > again. > • Interact with that Header area and VO-right past the sender's name to > the Subject. > • Then VO-left back to when you hear the sender's name again. > • At this point, press VO-shift-m to bring up the Contextual menu. > > What I believe is happening is that you may be misunderstanding the > Header areas. If VO reads "Message Header Group", then know that you're > Interacting with a "Group", therefore you may need to Interact with an > object once again in order to get to the proper level. In this case, the > second Interaction will take you to the "Message Header Text", and > therefore you'll know that you're within the correct area for the steps > outlined above. > > Hope this helps to explain and to save your computer from hurling through > the air. > > Later... > > On 2012-04-17, at 6:54 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote: > >> Ah Jennifer I hear the sound of screaming as I write this reply. >> Don't give up. I've noticed that the way you are trying to reply >> doesn't always work for me either. It works for me if I go over to the >> subject then back again, then do vo-shift-m. Then I get the address, >> copy and whatever else is on that menu. >> It is definitely frustrating but once you find that exact thing you have >> to do to make it work for you it will go smoothly. >> I'd try going over to the subject once you've interacted then back to >> the name you want. I don't know if its a focus issue. Have you tried >> routing the mouse to the name you want with vo-command-f5? Just a >> thought. >> Hope this helps. >> Jim >> P.S. gargle some lemon water for that throat after the screaming is done. >> >> On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: >> >>> OK, I am trying, again, to reply to one person, however, when I >>> navigate to message headers then interact with it which gives me the >>> person's name then VO righ
Re: drag and drop
hi jenny; for me to do a drag and drop i have to hold shift control option and command and then press the space bar. then do it again to drop. hope that helps, max On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: > Hi, I'm confused because I only received the VO command for drag and VO > command for drop. Don't you have to press another key besides VO to drag, > and VO and another letter to drop it? > > Jenny > On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:11 PM, irid domnori wrote: > >> Yep, it works: vo , for drag and vo . for drop. >> >> irid domnori >> irid.domn...@gmail.com >> contatto skype: superirid >> >> >> >> Il giorno 18/apr/2012, alle ore 21:07, Jennifer Perdue ha scritto: >> >> Hi, >> >> I don't use the track pad anyway. I only have the keyboard, so will drag >> and drop work with just the keyboard? >> >> Jenny >> On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >> >>> Hi Jenny. >>> I have just forgotten about drag and drop; I'm using the king of the beasts >>> also. The reason it doesn't always work is that, if you are totally blind >>> like me,you can't tell if something went off the screen or not when you get >>> ready to drop it. If it goes off the screen, it won't drop. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Gigi >>> >>> Eugenia Firth >>> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: >>> I'd like to know the same thing. I use Lion. Jenny On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: > How do you drag and drop something using VO? I've tried this with no > success. I should say, I've tried to try it. > > On Apr 18, 2012, at 6:04 AM, Gerry Cook wrote: > >> Hi i hope your having a good day where ever you are, using lion 10.73 I >> tried to drag and drop a music file from downloads to an mp3 folder on >> the desktop but, when i tried to drop the file on the folder voiceover >> said the file was their, but when i went into the folder to find, it it >> didn't copy to the folder i wanted it in, has anybody had anything >> similar to this, or is it a one off occurrence? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message beca
Re: drag and drop
that helps a lot. Thanks. Jenny On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: > hi jenny; for me to do a drag and drop i have to hold shift control option > and command and then press the space bar. then do it again to drop. hope > that helps, max > On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: > >> Hi, I'm confused because I only received the VO command for drag and VO >> command for drop. Don't you have to press another key besides VO to drag, >> and VO and another letter to drop it? >> >> Jenny >> On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:11 PM, irid domnori wrote: >> >>> Yep, it works: vo , for drag and vo . for drop. >>> >>> irid domnori >>> irid.domn...@gmail.com >>> contatto skype: superirid >>> >>> >>> >>> Il giorno 18/apr/2012, alle ore 21:07, Jennifer Perdue ha scritto: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I don't use the track pad anyway. I only have the keyboard, so will drag >>> and drop work with just the keyboard? >>> >>> Jenny >>> On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>> Hi Jenny. I have just forgotten about drag and drop; I'm using the king of the beasts also. The reason it doesn't always work is that, if you are totally blind like me,you can't tell if something went off the screen or not when you get ready to drop it. If it goes off the screen, it won't drop. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: > I'd like to know the same thing. I use Lion. > > Jenny > On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: > >> How do you drag and drop something using VO? I've tried this with no >> success. I should say, I've tried to try it. >> >> On Apr 18, 2012, at 6:04 AM, Gerry Cook wrote: >> >>> Hi i hope your having a good day where ever you are, using lion 10.73 I >>> tried to drag and drop a music file from downloads to an mp3 folder on >>> the desktop but, when i tried to drop the file on the folder voiceover >>> said the file was their, but when i went into the folder to find, it it >>> didn't copy to the folder i wanted it in, has anybody had anything >>> similar to this, or is it a one off occurrence? >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To uns
Re: drag and drop
Hi, The command to drag something is VO-comma, and to drop it is VO-period. I found this out by listening to one of Mike Malarsie's How to be Blind tutorials on YouTube. HTH, Rahul On 19/04/2012, Jennifer Perdue wrote: > that helps a lot. > > Thanks. > > Jenny > On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: > >> hi jenny; for me to do a drag and drop i have to hold shift control option >> and command and then press the space bar. then do it again to drop. hope >> that helps, max >> On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: >> >>> Hi, I'm confused because I only received the VO command for drag and VO >>> command for drop. Don't you have to press another key besides VO to >>> drag, and VO and another letter to drop it? >>> >>> Jenny >>> On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:11 PM, irid domnori wrote: >>> Yep, it works: vo , for drag and vo . for drop. irid domnori irid.domn...@gmail.com contatto skype: superirid Il giorno 18/apr/2012, alle ore 21:07, Jennifer Perdue ha scritto: Hi, I don't use the track pad anyway. I only have the keyboard, so will drag and drop work with just the keyboard? Jenny On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > Hi Jenny. > I have just forgotten about drag and drop; I'm using the king of the > beasts also. The reason it doesn't always work is that, if you are > totally blind like me,you can't tell if something went off the screen > or not when you get ready to drop it. If it goes off the screen, it > won't drop. > > Regards, > Gigi > > Eugenia Firth > gigifi...@sbcglobal.net > > > > On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: > >> I'd like to know the same thing. I use Lion. >> >> Jenny >> On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >> >>> How do you drag and drop something using VO? I've tried this with no >>> success. I should say, I've tried to try it. >>> >>> On Apr 18, 2012, at 6:04 AM, Gerry Cook wrote: >>> Hi i hope your having a good day where ever you are, using lion 10.73 I tried to drag and drop a music file from downloads to an mp3 folder on the desktop but, when i tried to drop the file on the folder voiceover said the file was their, but when i went into the folder to find, it it didn't copy to the folder i wanted it in, has anybody had anything similar to this, or is it a one off occurrence? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Fo
Tactile screen protectors for the iPhone
Hey all, I recently read about tactile screen protectors that are provided by a company called Speed Dots. These screen protectors basically provide raised dots in areas where the most frequently used options like backspace, okay, cancel, etc are located. They also provide raised dots for all the letters, which makes typing a lot faster and easier. So, has anyone here used any of these tactile screen protectors? Please do share your experience if you have actually used it. Regards, Rahul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
equivalent of perky duck equivalent for mac?
I used to love typing braille on y pc with that program and have to found any way to do this on mac. I am getting by typing the qwerty equivalents but if there is anything out there would love to find it. Thanks for your help. Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: I'm going to scream, what am I doing wrong!
Hi, If you are getting the "Hide" button then you have not Interacted enough. That is, the "Hide" button is part of the Header Group but it is not within the Header text. So, when VO reads "From", try Interacting with that area, then you should hear more details about the sender, the subject and the date. Later... . On 2012-04-18, at 11:28 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: > Mine doesn't do that, I VO shift down arrow and when it says interacting with > headers, I right arrow and it says hide. I VO left arrow and it gives the > name of the person again, but when I do the VO shift M it does nothing most > of the time, but when it get a whim, sometimes, it will give me the menu. > > Am I still doing something wrong? > > Jenny > On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > >> Using this method, when you first Interact with the "Message Header Text" >> area, navigating with VO-right, it should read the word "From", then the >> sender's name, then it will move to the next line and read the word >> "Subject" and if you continued, it would read the actual subject then move >> onto the the next line to read the Date info. Now, if you navigate left >> with VO-left, the first thing that it will read is the last thing it said >> when going right, then it will move back through each item. >> >> You need to think of Interacting with as a method of drilling into the the >> body to get more and more detailed info. This process makes things quicker >> to navigate overall but can confuse you if you're not understanding it or >> familiar with the concept. For example, in the case of Mail, if you were >> just navigating around the Mail window, you can simply hear about the layout >> of all the elements within the Mail window. When you Interact with the >> "Message Content" area, you'll get two items, the "Sort" menu item and the >> "Message Table". You need to Interact with that Table in order to learn >> about all the messages that reside within. Then you can navigate through >> the messages with arrow keys or with VO-arrow keys. When you get to the >> message you wish to read in full, press return or VO-j if you prefer that >> method. Now, the message will be open and VO will read it in full. This is >> the point where you can Interact with the Header info inorder to dig deeper >> into its details. >> >> Hopefully this clears up some layout and logistics for you. >> >> Later... >> >> On 2012-04-18, at 5:26 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: >> >>> When I go to the subject line via that method, is it supposed to go word >>> for word through the date to get to the subject line? >>> >>> Jenny >>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 10:05 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >>> Jennifer, I believe that you missing one Interaction step. • If you VO-right and VO reads "Hide", then go left to the Header area again. • Interact with that Header area and VO-right past the sender's name to the Subject. • Then VO-left back to when you hear the sender's name again. • At this point, press VO-shift-m to bring up the Contextual menu. What I believe is happening is that you may be misunderstanding the Header areas. If VO reads "Message Header Group", then know that you're Interacting with a "Group", therefore you may need to Interact with an object once again in order to get to the proper level. In this case, the second Interaction will take you to the "Message Header Text", and therefore you'll know that you're within the correct area for the steps outlined above. Hope this helps to explain and to save your computer from hurling through the air. Later... On 2012-04-17, at 6:54 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote: > Ah Jennifer I hear the sound of screaming as I write this reply. > Don't give up. I've noticed that the way you are trying to reply doesn't > always work for me either. It works for me if I go over to the subject > then back again, then do vo-shift-m. Then I get the address, copy and > whatever else is on that menu. > It is definitely frustrating but once you find that exact thing you have > to do to make it work for you it will go smoothly. > I'd try going over to the subject once you've interacted then back to the > name you want. I don't know if its a focus issue. Have you tried > routing the mouse to the name you want with vo-command-f5? Just a > thought. > Hope this helps. > Jim > P.S. gargle some lemon water for that throat after the screaming is done. > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: > >> OK, I am trying, again, to reply to one person, however, when I navigate >> to message headers then interact with it which gives me the person's >> name then VO right arrow to what is hide, then VO left arrow to the from >> field again, and then do VO shift M as in Mary.
Re: Mail, unread versus read messages.
Hi Anne! Okay, you're right. When not interacting with the table, I pressed VO-down-arrow and there it was! Horrizontal splitter. Is this the one I should then route my mouse to and double tap? Oh so close! Thanks. Veronica At 11:36 PM 4/17/2012, you wrote: Hello Veronica, I'm confused by what you're seeing, too. When you're on the messages table but not interacting, what happens when you press VO-Down Arrow? You should find a horizontal splitter and not be able to go down any further. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing The Star-spangled Banner at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ Then learn about Music CDs that will impact and entertain you forever! http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs Santa Cruz, California 831-429-6407 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mail, unread versus read messages.
Woo hoo! This explanation finally did the trick for me. Mail is now behaving as I want it to. Yippee! Thanks for your patience, all of you. Hopefully one day down the road, I'll be able to do the same for someone else who is new to the Mac and VoiceOver. Thanks again. Veronica On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Veronica Elsea wrote: > Hi Anne! > Okay, you're right. When not interacting with the table, I pressed > VO-down-arrow and there it was! Horrizontal splitter. Is this the one I > should then route my mouse to and double tap? Oh so close! > Thanks. > > Veronica > > At 11:36 PM 4/17/2012, you wrote: >> Hello Veronica, >> >> I'm confused by what you're seeing, too. >> >> When you're on the messages table but not interacting, what happens when you >> press VO-Down Arrow? You should find a horizontal splitter and not be able >> to go down any further. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing The Star-spangled Banner at > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ > Then learn about Music CDs that will impact and entertain you forever! > http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com > Veronica Elsea, Owner > Laurel Creek Music Designs > Santa Cruz, California > 831-429-6407 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
sharing tip for rewinding music in iTunes with keyboard
Hi all, Maybe this is old news but I could not find this in official apple documentation anywhere so thought nI'd share. When music is playing pressing command option left or right rewind or forwards the audio. hth, Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: sharing tip for rewinding music in iTunes with keyboard
Thanks Ioana! I was just about to ask this question. Do you know if holding down command-option-right-arrow will make the music scrub slowly forward, like an old tape recorder? Or do you just tap it once and it goes a certain distance, etc. Thanks so much. Veronica Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing The Star-spangled Banner at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ Then learn about Music CDs that will impact and entertain you forever! http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs Santa Cruz, California 831-429-6407 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Checkbook vs Checkbook Pro?
Wow, you got it better than most. My oldest account, I get withdrawal and debit card alerts, but nothing much as far as deposits go. This new place I'm battling can only send alerts when a bill goes into process, for low/high balance thresholds, and deposits over a set threshold. To set it up requires help because of invisible radio buttons and checkboxes. I wanted them for ATM fee credits and remote check deposit, but not sure how I would line the check up in the printer to get their complex endorsement that includes the account number. I don't know, to tell the truth, why they have 24 hour service, when what you need, they have no way to do. - Original Message - From: "Jennifer Perdue" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 1:02 PM Subject: Re: Checkbook vs Checkbook Pro? I'd like to know the same thing. Though my bank sends me every deposit and withdrawal that is made in my checking account, also it sends me daily account balances, but sometimes it forgets to send the balances, and sometimes transactions don't hit the bank until a few days later. I'd love to know about an accessible checkbook program for the Mac as well. Thanks for asking that question. Jenny On Apr 18, 2012, at 11:35 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: I remember someone recommending Checkbook to do Well, checkbook management on the Mac. When I looked in the app store this morning, I saw two Checkbook apps there; Checkbook for $14.95 and Checkbook Pro for $19.95 or so. Does anyone know the difference between them? I may just go for the cheaper one but wonder if the Pro version has something I would miss. Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Opening bookshare books on mac.
Hi, I downloaded a bookshare book on my mac, but can't open it. What type of archiving program do I need to open this. Thanks. Stacey and GEB dog Chesley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iMovie questions for Mike
Hello all! Talking about iMovie, how can I cot a part, let's say, some words or seconds from the middle of a clip? If you can help I will appreciate it very much! Thanks! SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com El 18/04/2012, a las 18:41, Michael Malarsie escribió: > Hey! > Sorry I took so long to write you back. > I also found where it said it creates an audio track. I have never been > able to find it though. > I will do a little messing around with the music to find out how to > loop a track. I know it is possible. I have done it once by accident ha ha. > To merge multiple clips into one I just import them one at a time then > copy and paste them into the project browser. The problem I have found is > that I can't re order them. as you drop new videos into the browser it just > puts them right in the middle of the group. It gets awful messy. > You could put the videos in a folder in a specific order though and > just import the whole folder. That way they will stay in the order you placed > them in. this is all I have found that works. > Hope this helps!! > > Mike Malarsie > On Apr 16, 2012, at 4:40 PM, Cody Hurst wrote: > >> Hey Mike, I wants to your YouTube video about adding sound effects into a >> video. However, I researched this also on Google, and I found that it should >> create a separate audio track in the project browser group. I'm not certain >> on how to create this audio track, and for editing purposes, it's kind of >> difficult. Also, if I want to add a song into my movie, how do Literint the >> part that I want to use, save the music, and have it overlapped with >> different video clips. Also, I'd like to be able to splice different video >> clips together. Is this possible? Thanks. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 16, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Michael Malarsie >> wrote: >> >>> Hello!! >>> So I am going to include a link about how to add sounds effects in iMovie. >>> The way I do it is to drop the music or sounds into the project browser >>> group. >>> I still haven't figured out how to make the sounds show up in the timeline >>> but I am still trying to get that figured out. Let me know if this link is >>> helpful. >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIce1sCgYZg >>> >>> Mike Malarsie >>> On Apr 16, 2012, at 2:22 AM, Cody wrote: >>> Hi there, This email is for Mike Malarsie or whoever is able to help me out with iMovie. I'm able to create video clips and edit them just fine, but I'm wondering about inserting audio. Say how do I clip a segment of audio? Do I import it to the event group or do I drag it into the project browser group? I dragged and dropped into the browser group, and apparently it worked, but I don't see it in the timeline of all my events. I'd also like to be able to insert audio snippets at random placeds into a video project, can anyone give me some info on this? Thanks.. Cody -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googl
re: using the mouse.
Hi everyone! I can't believe I'm doing this. It drives me crazy when there's just been a discussion on a list about something and then someone writes in and asks, what was that again? So, tail between legs, ears back, here I go. I was so excited about mail finally behaving that I accidentally deleted the message about using the actual mouse. I'd love to be able to wander around the track pad and get VoiceOver feedback. Is it that I go into universal access and change the delay there to zero? I think there's another step I've forgotten though. So please forgive me and I promise to pay closer attention from now on. But if someone could resend me that original post, I'd be most grateful. Thanks so much. Veronica -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do you put the name to a pages document in IOS
Yes, I think the same. Pages is accessible, but the Naming of a document is ... very tricky. Thanks Ann for that work around! SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com El 18/04/2012, a las 16:33, Daniel Montalvo escribió: > That's a good workdaround, but I think they should fix this as soon as > possible. It is necessary that one can rename a file with Voice Over > during the whole process. Right now I will report this to Apple > Accessibility! > > > > 2012/4/15, Daniela Rubio : >> Thank you again Ann. Now it is done. A friend of mine who is not so fine >> with his fingers will not be so happy when I tell him how to do it ... lol! >> When you wish, let me know when you and Arch are available again. >> Take care! >> >> >> SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. >> MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. >> EN TWITTER: @macneticos >> NUESTRO BLOG EN: >> www.macneticus.blogspot.com >> Y EL PODCAST EN:` >> http://macneticos.libsyn.com >> >> >> >> El 15/04/2012, a las 19:04, Anne Robertson escribió: >> >>> Hello Daniela, >>> >>> >>> Here's how to rename a Pages document on an iPhone, I assume it works the >>> same way with an iPad. Warning: you need a steady hand. >>> >>> You have to select Documents, then in the list of documents, the one >>> you've just created will be called something like Blank, probably followed >>> by a number. Place one finger on the one you wish to rename, toggle >>> VoiceOver off, double-tap with that one finger, then toggle VoiceOver back >>> on again. You'll be in an edit field which is the file name. Type the new >>> name, then tap Done. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> >>> On 15 Apr 2012, at 17:15, Daniela Rubio wrote: >>> Hi all! Please, SOS. How do I put the name to a pages document in IOS version using an iPad ? I go to documents and select the document and the date, but I can't find the text field where to put a name. thank yous o much for your help! ? SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Can VO be made to read Arabic
Yes, Acapella from asisteve ware has meadle east languages available. SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com El 18/04/2012, a las 11:42, Frank Ventura escribió: > Hello all, I am working with someone who has been using a Mac visually and > now needs to use VO. As part of his duties he needs to learn Arabic. Is there > any means of VO reading Arabic? Are there any Arabic synthesizers available > and does anything need to be installed on the Mac. The Mac is a recent US > model IMac. > thanks > Frank > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Friend Can't Download Messages Beta
Hey guys. My friend is trying to download the Messages Beta for her Mac. When we were on the Apple website to download it, we couldn't find a download link. Has Apple got rid of the link or where is it? Also this friend is wondering if Apple got rid of the option to pay for products via Paypal. Thanks. Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How To Import WebBraille Books Into IBooks
Thanks Theresa, i appreciate this, this method is a lot easier than I was going through the steps with so if you don't mind I am going to share this with one of my patrons here at the library. I work with the braille collection here at the Library for the Blind and also handle technology and alternative reading methods and this goes right up there with what I do perfectly. Thanks for the trick and I'll pass this along if you don't mind. I've been using web braille on Itunes but I've been doing it the hard way using a braille translator, a book converter, like Stanza, and all that junk, but this makes it easier. Thanks again and take care. Talk to you soon. Sent from my iPad On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Hi, all, > > I don't usually cross-post, but this seems like an instance in which it would > be beneficial. > > I'm going to share with you all the way I've successfully imported WebBraille > books to read in IBooks. There are other methods of reading these on the > IPhone/IPod, but this method will allow you to keep your place in the book > when you need to pause reading. I used TextEdit on the Mac to open the file > and export it to pdf. Check your text-editor's documentation on exporting to > pdf if you're using another OS or editor. > > This method will only work with a braille display, and does *not* work with > speech. > > I haven't tested it on other brf files, but you might give it a try. > > 1. Open a brf WebBraille file in TextEdit. If you don't like the uppercase > dot-7 caps appearing for all of the characters, select all the text, go into > the edit menu, choose "transformations" and change to lower case. At this > point, you can check the document with the braille display to see if it is > readable. Use eight-dot Braille, uncontracted. > 2. From the file menu in TextEdit, choose "export to pdf". In the save > dialog, you'll be presented with a filename with a pdf extension. Save the > file in a place that's easy to find. > 3. In Itunes add the file you just saved to your library. It will appear in > your Books list. > 4. Use whichever sync settings you've specified to sync this book to your > IDevice. I usually do this manually, placing the file in my Ipod/books > playlist. > 5. Open IBooks and find the file in your IBooks library. Change Braille to > eight-dot, uncontracted. Use dots 3- and 6-chord at the page chooser to > switch pages. > > Enjoy. > > Teresa > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: sharing tip for rewinding music in iTunes with keyboard
Pressing once skyps a bit. Holding them pressed sounds like rewinding or fast forwarding cps. hth Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. On Apr 18, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Veronica Elsea wrote: > Thanks Ioana! I was just about to ask this question. Do you know if holding > down command-option-right-arrow will make the music scrub slowly forward, > like an old tape recorder? Or do you just tap it once and it goes a certain > distance, etc. Thanks so much. > > Veronica > Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing The Star-spangled Banner at > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ > Then learn about Music CDs that will impact and entertain you forever! > http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com > Veronica Elsea, Owner > Laurel Creek Music Designs > Santa Cruz, California > 831-429-6407 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: drag and drop
You also always have the option of using command-x to cut an item and command-option-v to move the file to the current location. 1. locate file 2. command-x to cut 3. move to new location 4. command-option-v to move the file to the new location. On Apr 18, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Rahul Bajaj wrote: > Hi, > > The command to drag something is VO-comma, and to drop it is VO-period. > I found this out by listening to one of Mike Malarsie's How to be > Blind tutorials on YouTube. > > HTH, > Rahul > > > On 19/04/2012, Jennifer Perdue wrote: >> that helps a lot. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Jenny >> On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: >> >>> hi jenny; for me to do a drag and drop i have to hold shift control option >>> and command and then press the space bar. then do it again to drop. hope >>> that helps, max >>> On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: >>> Hi, I'm confused because I only received the VO command for drag and VO command for drop. Don't you have to press another key besides VO to drag, and VO and another letter to drop it? Jenny On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:11 PM, irid domnori wrote: > Yep, it works: vo , for drag and vo . for drop. > > irid domnori > irid.domn...@gmail.com > contatto skype: superirid > > > > Il giorno 18/apr/2012, alle ore 21:07, Jennifer Perdue ha scritto: > > Hi, > > I don't use the track pad anyway. I only have the keyboard, so will > drag and drop work with just the keyboard? > > Jenny > On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > >> Hi Jenny. >> I have just forgotten about drag and drop; I'm using the king of the >> beasts also. The reason it doesn't always work is that, if you are >> totally blind like me,you can't tell if something went off the screen >> or not when you get ready to drop it. If it goes off the screen, it >> won't drop. >> >> Regards, >> Gigi >> >> Eugenia Firth >> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net >> >> >> >> On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: >> >>> I'd like to know the same thing. I use Lion. >>> >>> Jenny >>> On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >>> How do you drag and drop something using VO? I've tried this with no success. I should say, I've tried to try it. On Apr 18, 2012, at 6:04 AM, Gerry Cook wrote: > Hi i hope your having a good day where ever you are, using lion > 10.73 I tried to drag and drop a music file from downloads to an > mp3 folder on the desktop but, when i tried to drop the file on the > folder voiceover said the file was their, but when i went into the > folder to find, it it didn't copy to the folder i wanted it in, has > anybody had anything similar to this, or is it a one off occurrence? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to > macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, s
Re: How To Import WebBraille Books Into IBooks
Absolutely, not a problem. :) By the way, I know it's working for me; I've been reading a book on my Ipod for the last few hours :) Teresa Winging its way from my iPod On Apr 18, 2012, at 2:49 PM, Timothy Emmons wrote: > Thanks Theresa, i appreciate this, this method is a lot easier than I was > going through the steps with so if you don't mind I am going to share this > with one of my patrons here at the library. I work with the braille > collection here at the Library for the Blind and also handle technology and > alternative reading methods and this goes right up there with what I do > perfectly. Thanks for the trick and I'll pass this along if you don't mind. > I've been using web braille on Itunes but I've been doing it the hard way > using a braille translator, a book converter, like Stanza, and all that junk, > but this makes it easier. Thanks again and take care. Talk to you soon. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Teresa Cochran > wrote: > >> Hi, all, >> >> I don't usually cross-post, but this seems like an instance in which it >> would be beneficial. >> >> I'm going to share with you all the way I've successfully imported >> WebBraille books to read in IBooks. There are other methods of reading these >> on the IPhone/IPod, but this method will allow you to keep your place in the >> book when you need to pause reading. I used TextEdit on the Mac to open the >> file and export it to pdf. Check your text-editor's documentation on >> exporting to pdf if you're using another OS or editor. >> >> This method will only work with a braille display, and does *not* work with >> speech. >> >> I haven't tested it on other brf files, but you might give it a try. >> >> 1. Open a brf WebBraille file in TextEdit. If you don't like the uppercase >> dot-7 caps appearing for all of the characters, select all the text, go into >> the edit menu, choose "transformations" and change to lower case. At this >> point, you can check the document with the braille display to see if it is >> readable. Use eight-dot Braille, uncontracted. >> 2. From the file menu in TextEdit, choose "export to pdf". In the save >> dialog, you'll be presented with a filename with a pdf extension. Save the >> file in a place that's easy to find. >> 3. In Itunes add the file you just saved to your library. It will appear in >> your Books list. >> 4. Use whichever sync settings you've specified to sync this book to your >> IDevice. I usually do this manually, placing the file in my Ipod/books >> playlist. >> 5. Open IBooks and find the file in your IBooks library. Change Braille to >> eight-dot, uncontracted. Use dots 3- and 6-chord at the page chooser to >> switch pages. >> >> Enjoy. >> >> Teresa >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: drag and drop
thank you. Can someone tell me how to switch from new email to classic email in lion please? Jenny On Apr 18, 2012, at 2:16 PM, Rahul Bajaj wrote: > Hi, > > The command to drag something is VO-comma, and to drop it is VO-period. > I found this out by listening to one of Mike Malarsie's How to be > Blind tutorials on YouTube. > > HTH, > Rahul > > > On 19/04/2012, Jennifer Perdue wrote: >> that helps a lot. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Jenny >> On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: >> >>> hi jenny; for me to do a drag and drop i have to hold shift control option >>> and command and then press the space bar. then do it again to drop. hope >>> that helps, max >>> On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: >>> Hi, I'm confused because I only received the VO command for drag and VO command for drop. Don't you have to press another key besides VO to drag, and VO and another letter to drop it? Jenny On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:11 PM, irid domnori wrote: > Yep, it works: vo , for drag and vo . for drop. > > irid domnori > irid.domn...@gmail.com > contatto skype: superirid > > > > Il giorno 18/apr/2012, alle ore 21:07, Jennifer Perdue ha scritto: > > Hi, > > I don't use the track pad anyway. I only have the keyboard, so will > drag and drop work with just the keyboard? > > Jenny > On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > >> Hi Jenny. >> I have just forgotten about drag and drop; I'm using the king of the >> beasts also. The reason it doesn't always work is that, if you are >> totally blind like me,you can't tell if something went off the screen >> or not when you get ready to drop it. If it goes off the screen, it >> won't drop. >> >> Regards, >> Gigi >> >> Eugenia Firth >> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net >> >> >> >> On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: >> >>> I'd like to know the same thing. I use Lion. >>> >>> Jenny >>> On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: >>> How do you drag and drop something using VO? I've tried this with no success. I should say, I've tried to try it. On Apr 18, 2012, at 6:04 AM, Gerry Cook wrote: > Hi i hope your having a good day where ever you are, using lion > 10.73 I tried to drag and drop a music file from downloads to an > mp3 folder on the desktop but, when i tried to drop the file on the > folder voiceover said the file was their, but when i went into the > folder to find, it it didn't copy to the folder i wanted it in, has > anybody had anything similar to this, or is it a one off occurrence? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to > macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/m
Re: equivalent of perky duck equivalent for mac?
Hi Ioana. I have giving some thought to doing this, but haven't yet had the time to play with it. If you don't have a braille display with input keys, I guess this won't work. I suspect it would work if you wanted a braille file 2`o turn on computer braille and just tyse in grade 2 in TextEdit, and then rename the file to have a brf extension when you got done. I thought about doing this when I saw that my brf files qat I originally wrote in grade 2 on the PacMate looked perfectly fine on the braille display. a If you don't have a braille display with input keys, I haven't yet come acress an equivalent to Perky Duck. You know that is a stripped down version of Duxbury. Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Apr 18, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: > I used to love typing braille on y pc with that program and have to found any > way to do this on mac. I am getting by typing the qwerty equivalents but if > there is anything out there would love to find it. > > Thanks for your help. > > Ioana > > Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online > stores. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Checkbook vs Checkbook Pro?
Well, I'd still like to have a checkbook program to keep my own records. Jenny On Apr 18, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Brent Harding wrote: > Wow, you got it better than most. My oldest account, I get withdrawal and > debit card alerts, but nothing much as far as deposits go. This new place I'm > battling can only send alerts when a bill goes into process, for low/high > balance thresholds, and deposits over a set threshold. To set it up requires > help because of invisible radio buttons and checkboxes. I wanted them for ATM > fee credits and remote check deposit, but not sure how I would line the check > up in the printer to get their complex endorsement that includes the account > number. I don't know, to tell the truth, why they have 24 hour service, when > what you need, they have no way to do. > > - Original Message - From: "Jennifer Perdue" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 1:02 PM > Subject: Re: Checkbook vs Checkbook Pro? > > >> I'd like to know the same thing. >> >> Though my bank sends me every deposit and withdrawal that is made in my >> checking account, also it sends me daily account balances, but sometimes it >> forgets to send the balances, and sometimes transactions don't hit the bank >> until a few days later. >> >> I'd love to know about an accessible checkbook program for the Mac as well. >> >> Thanks for asking that question. >> >> Jenny >> On Apr 18, 2012, at 11:35 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: >> >>> I remember someone recommending Checkbook to do Well, checkbook >>> management on the Mac. When I looked in the app store this morning, I >>> saw two Checkbook apps there; Checkbook for $14.95 and Checkbook Pro >>> for $19.95 or so. Does anyone know the difference between them? I may >>> just go for the cheaper one but wonder if the Pro version has >>> something I would miss. >>> >>> Any ideas? >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: drag and drop
This might sound stupid, but what's the difference? Jenny On Apr 18, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > You also always have the option of using command-x to cut an item and > command-option-v to move the file to the current location. > 1. locate file > 2. command-x to cut > 3. move to new location > 4. command-option-v to move the file to the new location. > > On Apr 18, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Rahul Bajaj wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> The command to drag something is VO-comma, and to drop it is VO-period. >> I found this out by listening to one of Mike Malarsie's How to be >> Blind tutorials on YouTube. >> >> HTH, >> Rahul >> >> >> On 19/04/2012, Jennifer Perdue wrote: >>> that helps a lot. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Jenny >>> On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:29 PM, Maxwell Ivey wrote: >>> hi jenny; for me to do a drag and drop i have to hold shift control option and command and then press the space bar. then do it again to drop. hope that helps, max On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: > Hi, I'm confused because I only received the VO command for drag and VO > command for drop. Don't you have to press another key besides VO to > drag, and VO and another letter to drop it? > > Jenny > On Apr 18, 2012, at 1:11 PM, irid domnori wrote: > >> Yep, it works: vo , for drag and vo . for drop. >> >> irid domnori >> irid.domn...@gmail.com >> contatto skype: superirid >> >> >> >> Il giorno 18/apr/2012, alle ore 21:07, Jennifer Perdue ha scritto: >> >> Hi, >> >> I don't use the track pad anyway. I only have the keyboard, so will >> drag and drop work with just the keyboard? >> >> Jenny >> On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >> >>> Hi Jenny. >>> I have just forgotten about drag and drop; I'm using the king of the >>> beasts also. The reason it doesn't always work is that, if you are >>> totally blind like me,you can't tell if something went off the screen >>> or not when you get ready to drop it. If it goes off the screen, it >>> won't drop. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Gigi >>> >>> Eugenia Firth >>> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:24 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: >>> I'd like to know the same thing. I use Lion. Jenny On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote: > How do you drag and drop something using VO? I've tried this with no > success. I should say, I've tried to try it. > > On Apr 18, 2012, at 6:04 AM, Gerry Cook wrote: > >> Hi i hope your having a good day where ever you are, using lion >> 10.73 I tried to drag and drop a music file from downloads to an >> mp3 folder on the desktop but, when i tried to drop the file on the >> folder voiceover said the file was their, but when i went into the >> folder to find, it it didn't copy to the folder i wanted it in, has >> anybody had anything similar to this, or is it a one off occurrence? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to >> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en
Re: Using a mouse
hi Mike, the option you want is in the VoiceOver utility, in the navagation pain, not in universil access.it's in the section of the pain which also has options for the VO curser. VO should say, mouse kerser. a popup button presents you with options, where egnores VO kerser is the default. hope that helps, Daniel Skype: daniel.angus.macdonald On 4/18/12, Michael Malarsie wrote: > Greetings everyone, > If I plug a mouse into my Macbook is there an option to make the Voice > Over > call out what is under the cursor? > Are there any mouse options to mess with at all? I didn't find anything > interesting in Universal Access and just wanted to find out is maybe I was > just missing something. > > > Mike Malarsie > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Tactile screen protectors for the iPhone
I didn't even know about these. I may need to find them. got a website address? -eric On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Rahul Bajaj wrote: > Hey all, > > I recently read about tactile screen protectors that are provided by a > company called Speed Dots. > These screen protectors basically provide raised dots in areas where the most > frequently used options like backspace, okay, cancel, etc are located. > They also provide raised dots for all the letters, which makes typing a lot > faster and easier. > > So, has anyone here used any of these tactile screen protectors? > Please do share your experience if you have actually used it. > > Regards, > Rahul > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Checkbook vs Checkbook Pro?
Hi: I have Checkbook Pro. The Pro version lets you move entries in to smart folders, create global account summaries, etc. See the below link. http://www.splasm.com/checkbookpro/ On Apr 18, 2012, at 11:35 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: > I remember someone recommending Checkbook to do Well, checkbook > management on the Mac. When I looked in the app store this morning, I > saw two Checkbook apps there; Checkbook for $14.95 and Checkbook Pro > for $19.95 or so. Does anyone know the difference between them? I may > just go for the cheaper one but wonder if the Pro version has > something I would miss. > > Any ideas? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Tactile screen protectors for the iPhone
Hi Eric, You can find more info about them at www.speeddots.com Do check it out! HTH, Rahul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
speakers
Hi. Right now I have an audio cable hooked up to the headphone jack of the computer and the other end hooked in to the exilary output in my stereo so that the sound comes through the stereo speaker. The stereo only has two speakers so if I wanted more of a surround sound, would I beable to buy two extra speakers and hook them in to the back of the computer and hear those at the same time I'm hearing the stereo ones. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Plex
While looking for different options to set up my Mini as a home Theater, I came across Plex. Thus far, I managed to set up the home server on the mini and purchased the iOS app. While I am enjoying the ability to stream my media to my various devices, a few areas concern me, though. First involves the fact that the Plex Media Center no longer is accessible. I thought the Media Center was accessible, at some point based on threads from other forums from a while back. Is anyone using either a jailbroken Apple TV (2nd Gen), Roku, or other Plex friendly device? I read a few discussions from a while back about Roku with regards to accessibility, but seen that some issues exist between Roku and the remote feature on the iOS app. I am looking for something that will allow me to stream media from my mini to other TV's in my house. I realize that I could solve most of these issues with an Apple TV 3rd Gen, but would prefer to try figuring out a solution with Plex. Thank you, Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/azWoJ5EKguMJ. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Olearia
Hi Becky, Here is the link to download oleria . http://www.cucat.org/projects/olearia/ Regards Dean Sent from Dean Adams Macbook Pro breezepa...@gmail.com phone: 0243206031 Mobile: 0428133758 Skype : deanadams9 On 18/04/2012, at 4:58 AM, Becky Knaub wrote: > Hi all, > What website do you download olearia from. I want to read bookshare books on > my mac and be able to book mark my place. > > Thanks. > > Becky > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: using the mouse.
Hello Veronica, In VoiceOver Utility, Verbosity category, select the Announcements tab and check the check box Speak text under mouse after delay. Then set the delay to zero. When you run one finger over the trackpad, VO will speak what is under the mouse. Cheers, Anne On 18 Apr 2012, at 23:09, Veronica Elsea wrote: > Hi everyone! I can't believe I'm doing this. It drives me crazy when there's > just been a discussion on a list about something and then someone writes in > and asks, what was that again? So, tail between legs, ears back, here I go. > I was so excited about mail finally behaving that I accidentally deleted the > message about using the actual mouse. I'd love to be able to wander around > the track pad and get VoiceOver feedback. > Is it that I go into universal access and change the delay there to zero? I > think there's another step I've forgotten though. So please forgive me and I > promise to pay closer attention from now on. > But if someone could resend me that original post, I'd be most grateful. > Thanks so much. > > Veronica > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
