Re: Ical question
Hello Marc, You can get to the first day in the grid by pressing VO-Cmd-x (go to next list). Cheers, Anne On 27 Feb 2012, at 20:33, Marc Sutton wrote: > Hi Anne, > Thanks for your ical tips. Do you know of a quick way to get to the grid of > dates? Once in add event mode things get a little unpredictable. Thanks. > Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: apple tv question:
No, you have to purchase content. Les On Feb 27, 2012, at 2:17 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: > Can you watch regular network TV with the Apple v or do you have to buy > everything you watch? I have never seen one so I don't know what the > difference is between that and cable. > > Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks > > On Feb 26, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Chenelle Hancock > wrote: > >> hi all, >> i just only purchased an apple tv about three months ago. furthermore, i >> did not have any problems with setting it up. i i have an h.d.l.c..d tv >> thus all i had to do is to get another h.d.m.i. caple and connect it to >> the back of the apple tv and then hook the other piece to the back of the >> tv. then i pressed the lower right button on the small slender remote >> control that comes with the apple tv three times in order to turn on voice >> over. afterwards, i had my aunt put in the internet code and password in >> order to hook up to netflix and the internet etc.. afterwards, it was a >> total breeze for me to work. i have never regretted purchasing the >> apple tv at all either. i had purchased movies, and tv shows from just >> using my apple tv and i really do enjoy it better then watching cable for >> the most part. the only piece of apple equipment that i do not have in my >> hands is an i-pad 3 and that does not come out until march,7/12. but i will >> wait to get it until later on in the summer etc.. >> take care everyone sincerely, chenelle. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Purchasing an iMac
Well, I've had it with our PC and am purchasing an iMac. I'd like to be able to record TV shows via a TV Tuner card. I was informed by the Mac sales rep that there isn't a card slot, rather, they offered me a device called the El Gato Eye TV Hybrid. It's supposed to work with both the Mac and PC platforms. Anybody know anything about this device, and equally important, any suggestions for recording TV programs and having access to program guides? Thanks. Les -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Purchasing an iMac
Hi there and glad to hear you're making the move to the mac. you won't regret it. I have used the elgato tv tuners and the software isn't exactly bad but has some accessibility issues. bearing in mind this was some time ago so things may have changed since. the included software allows you to record the programs you want to directly to the HDD without any issues, you can schedule recordings and so much more besides. an amazing bit of kit. they're reasonably priced so I'd give it a go in all fairness. I'm sure others will be able to advise better on this but thought I'd give my 2P worth lew On 27 Feb 2012, at 20:22, Les Kriegler wrote: > Well, I've had it with our PC and am purchasing an iMac. I'd like to be able > to record TV shows via a TV Tuner card. I was informed by the Mac sales rep > that there isn't a card slot, rather, they offered me a device called the El > Gato Eye TV Hybrid. It's supposed to work with both the Mac and PC > platforms. Anybody know anything about this device, and equally important, > any suggestions for recording TV programs and having access to program > guides? Thanks. > > Les > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: more on status not being read in Mail
Hello Kawal, I received what appeared to be an auto-reply from Accessibility acknowledging receipt of my email. Mark On Feb 27, 2012, at 4:08 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Thank you Mark for confirming that. For clarity sake and (if Donna doesn't > mind me saying so) did you get any kind of response? As Donna says it's not > a bug although this was what was discussed on list as I hate to be > contradicted and if there is going to be an issue then I can be contacted > privately although it would be silly to argue over that. > > Best wishes, > > Kawal. > > On 27 Feb 2012, at 03:12 AM, "M. Taylor" wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I did, indeed, report this bug to Apple. >> >> Mark >> On Feb 25, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >> >>> Hello Donna. >>> >>> If you are usimg the latest update in Lion, what you experience is a bug or >>> problem as Mark Taylor brought this to the list's attention when he >>> installed the latest update. As I recall, he was going to write to Apple >>> Accessability although I have no idea if this has been done as there were >>> other list members doing the same. I'd suggest you write to the >>> Accessability team at Apple explaining what you experience with the latest >>> update in mail if you are using that. >>> >>> Kawal. >>> >>> On 25 Feb 2012, at 09:33 PM, "Goodin, Donna" wrote: >>> Hi again, all, It seems that the only thing that isn't being read is whether a message is read or unread. VO does announce if if I have replied to a message. this is really strange and very annoying. Cheers, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: more on status not being read in Mail
nothing new there. they always do that. unless they feel it's imperitive to contact you, they won't lew On 27 Feb 2012, at 20:33, M. Taylor wrote: > Hello Kawal, > > I received what appeared to be an auto-reply from Accessibility acknowledging > receipt of my email. > > Mark > On Feb 27, 2012, at 4:08 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> Thank you Mark for confirming that. For clarity sake and (if Donna doesn't >> mind me saying so) did you get any kind of response? As Donna says it's not >> a bug although this was what was discussed on list as I hate to be >> contradicted and if there is going to be an issue then I can be contacted >> privately although it would be silly to argue over that. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Kawal. >> >> On 27 Feb 2012, at 03:12 AM, "M. Taylor" wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I did, indeed, report this bug to Apple. >>> >>> Mark >>> On Feb 25, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>> Hello Donna. If you are usimg the latest update in Lion, what you experience is a bug or problem as Mark Taylor brought this to the list's attention when he installed the latest update. As I recall, he was going to write to Apple Accessability although I have no idea if this has been done as there were other list members doing the same. I'd suggest you write to the Accessability team at Apple explaining what you experience with the latest update in mail if you are using that. Kawal. On 25 Feb 2012, at 09:33 PM, "Goodin, Donna" wrote: > Hi again, all, > > It seems that the only thing that isn't being read is whether a message > is read or unread. VO does announce if if I have replied to a message. > this is really strange and very annoying. > Cheers, > Donna > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Purchasing an iMac
Here is a link to an iPhad app for Dish Network. It turns out that with this app you can control a lot of the functions for dish network if that is what you have. With a compatible DVR you can set and control just about everything from an iPad. If you read below the description of the app there are comments from the user about the accessibility. http://www.applevis.com/ios-app-directory/entertainment/dish-remote-access-ipad Mike Malarsie On Feb 27, 2012, at 2:22 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: > Well, I've had it with our PC and am purchasing an iMac. I'd like to be able > to record TV shows via a TV Tuner card. I was informed by the Mac sales rep > that there isn't a card slot, rather, they offered me a device called the El > Gato Eye TV Hybrid. It's supposed to work with both the Mac and PC > platforms. Anybody know anything about this device, and equally important, > any suggestions for recording TV programs and having access to program > guides? Thanks. > > Les > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Purchasing an iMac
Mine came with a physical remote that lets you do some features. Main problem is it is an IR rather than RF and the IR receiver is located on the USB dongle so it's easy for other things to get in the way of the remote's beam of light. They did include a little 6" USB able so you can move the USB stick from behind the computer, but I still found it problematic to get the remote to work unless everything lined up 'just so'. CB On 2/27/12 12:25 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: Hi there and glad to hear you're making the move to the mac. you won't regret it. I have used the elgato tv tuners and the software isn't exactly bad but has some accessibility issues. bearing in mind this was some time ago so things may have changed since. the included software allows you to record the programs you want to directly to the HDD without any issues, you can schedule recordings and so much more besides. an amazing bit of kit. they're reasonably priced so I'd give it a go in all fairness. I'm sure others will be able to advise better on this but thought I'd give my 2P worth lew On 27 Feb 2012, at 20:22, Les Kriegler wrote: Well, I've had it with our PC and am purchasing an iMac. I'd like to be able to record TV shows via a TV Tuner card. I was informed by the Mac sales rep that there isn't a card slot, rather, they offered me a device called the El Gato Eye TV Hybrid. It's supposed to work with both the Mac and PC platforms. Anybody know anything about this device, and equally important, any suggestions for recording TV programs and having access to program guides? Thanks. Les -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: text edit and braille margins
Yes, having just read your message I didn't realize textedit could do this. I agree that staying out of terminal, if possible, should be the easier way. CB On 2/27/12 9:27 AM, Esther wrote: Hi Chris, I agree that this stuff is easy to do in Terminal, but a lot of people don't feel comfortable with Terminal and the command line. Besides, this still doesn't address getting this printed out, so you'd have to add the pipe to a selected printer. It's actually not hard to do what they want within TextEdit, where you can set the default window size in characters and lines for plain text in preferences, then print according to the window layout instead of the page margins, as I outlined in a separate post. Cheers, Esther On Feb 27, 2012, at 6:04 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: This is a perfect example of the kind of stuff you can do in the unix shell of terminal. Save a text file somewhere handy like your desktop. I called mine test.txt. Then open terminal and cd to wherever you have the file. So for me I did cd ~/Desktop then use the fold command which breaks text files into fixed length lines like this: fold -w30 -s test.txt The -s parameter says to break lines on spaces. If you don't mind it breaking in the middle of a word you can leave that out. If you someday splurge on a 40 cell display just change the 30 to a 40. That at least gets you partway there. The shell has the idea of a pipe written as "|" where the output of one command becomes the input to the next. So we can pipe the output from fold to the input of the "pr" command which lets us insert page breaks like this: fold -w30 -s test.txt | pr -tF -l27 the pr command normally adds headers and such to each page which we suppress with the -t option. The F option says to output real pagrebreaks rather than a bunch of extra newlines. The L parameter, as you can guess, is how many lines before a pagebreak. To learn more about the fold or pr commands just type "man" followed by the command to get more details from the manual pages. man man tells you about the manual itself. Of course you probably want to write all this good stuff back out to a file. To do that we want to redirect the output to a file instead of the terminal. To do that we add a redirect using the ">" and then a filename to the end of the recipe like this: fold -w30 -s test.txt | pr -tF -l27> fixed.txt and you should find a fixed.txt file on your desktop all nicely formatted. Welcome to the dark underbelly of OSX where great power and capability lie, if you can just find the right man page :) CB On 2/27/12 6:47 AM, John Sanfilippo wrote: Oo, I have much the same concern, so I'm looking forward to hearing more about this. js On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:42 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: Dear listers, I have an old braille printer that is not attached to my mac. To emboss something, all I have to do is create simple plain text files with 27 lines per page, and no more than 30 characters per line. Looking at how text edit handles printing however, that works with inches or centimeters, and in general, with a bitmap, the size of the paper you choose to print on. Characters, lines and the whole page can be scaled. However, what I need for my braille printer is to ignore scaling, and tell text edit to wrap to the next line after 30 characters max, and a page break after 27 lines, no matter which font size etc I choose, because fonts etc are not important in braille. Once a text document has been loaded in text edit, how do I reformat it, so that it writes a carriage return line feed pair at the end of each line of 30 characters most, and a page break, control l, at the end of 27 lines? Very interested. I'm now doing it all by hand, but since I received 8 songs from my choir all at once, I'm hoping to learn an easier way to reformat typed text into something my braille printer can handle. That braille printer is on windows, but I'd rather do all the preparations in text edit, than on a windows machine. Is it possible to make text edit do what I need here? Paul. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille Touch: please help get Apple onboard
Would this app be able to write in grade 2 braille? I am a braille user as stating in another message, I use a braille display. Kawal. On 27 Feb 2012, at 17:23, James Mannion wrote: > Although there is no harm in wanting something to be completely > optional and available for someone to use, I am definitely not sold on > it until it is out and proven that it really is at all something I > like using. I don't think it makes a lot of sense either to be making > a push for something to be incorporated into the system that none of > us have really even had the chance to try because it is not available > yet. One could just as easily prefer the TypeIn Braille input app as > an optional keyboard. I have been playing with the TypeInBraille app > actually and I see some possible advantage in having it as a tool. I > agree with what I think someone said about that app that in noisy > environments where you might want to do character input and you need > to use the touch screen without being able to hear as much, it allows > for what is arguably more predictable places to touch the screen > without error to get what you need. I am going to continue to play > with and make use of that at times to see how fast I am able to get > with it. I really do not mind the on screen keyboard as long as I can > hear the feedback from it and as long as it is not an instance where > there is lag in its feedback. Where more speed is needed I have always > been happy with bluetooth keyboard or dictation options. More options > are always good. > > On 2/27/12, Chris Blouch wrote: >> Wanted answer the assertion of Android being more flexible. While anyone >> could add a different keyboard to Android, I'm not clear how that would >> get universally baked in so that anyone pickup an Android phone would >> get this option. It's the same problem that if you want it baked into >> Android you would have to get Google to do it. Of course you could argue >> whether Apple or Google is more receptive to making this addition but >> it's still something that has to be done by the platform owner. I think >> what we don't want is some kind of extra thing you have to know about, >> download and install. >> >> CB >> >> On 2/26/12 5:58 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >>> Here is one reason among many why android is much more flexible, adding >>> this functionality will not have any restrictions. Yes, Apple does not >>> allow adding other keyboards, or input methods as they might be called. >>> The thing is, if Apple allows this one, other developers will want to do >>> the same thing. That may not be a bad thing, alternative keyboards may be >>> a good thing, but I would not count on Apple changing their policy on this >>> one. Also their thought could be, the built in on screen keyboard is >>> already accessible, why not use that? That is a valid point, guess time >>> will tell on this one. >>> On Feb 26, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>> Hello all, There has been much discussion about the new Braille Touch app lately. For anyone who missed it, this is an app coming out sometime this year that lets users type in braille on an iOS or Android device. Basically, you hold the device sideways, the home button to your right or left. You then place three fingers on either end of the screen and start typing. This beats the current braille entry app out there because (1) it will be free and (2) it lets you enter the character all at once, not a row at a time. Here is where it needs your help: Apple's developer guidelines and terms of service state that, basically, no app can add its own keyboard to the keyboards available in iOS. this means that there is no way to use the braille keyboard outside the app; no writing texts or emails with it, no using it to do a search, no nothing. Yes, you can use the app and then copy and paste, but if you just want to write a quick email, add a contact, or even edit a document, you can't take advantage of braille. Apple needs to know that we (blind and visually impaired users of iOS) want and need this functionality in iOS. Please take a couple minutes to send a message to accessibil...@apple.com. Tell them you want them to include Braille Touch's keyboard in iOS so that it can be used where ever you need to enter text, in place of the on-screen QWERTY keyboard that iOS currently forces you to use. Point out that this keyboard transforms the iOS line of products from PDAs with great accessibility into true braille devices. Most of all, tell them how important it is to you that this feature be included system-wide as soon as possible. Offer any further suggestions, testimonials, and anything else you think will help, but please take the time to send accessibil...@apple.com a message asking them to take this massive step into the future of accessibility. Thanks for your
Another Annoying issue in mail.
Hello All. Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever you open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail address before the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the message. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
Hey Kawal, I'm starting to wonder if my Mac is possessed. lol I don't have the problem you describe at all. Cheers, Donna On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Hello All. > > Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever you > open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail address before > the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the message. > > Kawal. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
Mail is so simple to read using the I phone 4S if you have a bluetooth keyboard for convienience sake to reply with, at least you know you've replied to an e-mail. Why do we not have bugs in the I phone mail? Kawal. On 27 Feb 2012, at 10:09 PM, "Goodin, Donna" wrote: > Hey Kawal, > > I'm starting to wonder if my Mac is possessed. lol I don't have the problem > you describe at all. > Cheers, > Donna > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> Hello All. >> >> Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever you >> open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail address before >> the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the message. >> >> Kawal. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
Funny, I have not noticed this myself. On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Hello All. > > Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever you > open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail address before > the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the message. > > Kawal. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
New iMac User
Hello, My name is Christine, and I just bought an iMac. I want to know if there is any instructions or podcasts for using VoiceOver with commands. I would really appreciate any help, thank you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
I think the better question is, given that we don't have bugs in iPhone mail, why do we have them in Mail on the Mac? :) Cheers, Donna On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:29 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Mail is so simple to read using the I phone 4S if you have a bluetooth > keyboard for convienience sake to reply with, at least you know you've > replied to an e-mail. Why do we not have bugs in the I phone mail? > > Kawal. > > On 27 Feb 2012, at 10:09 PM, "Goodin, Donna" wrote: > >> Hey Kawal, >> >> I'm starting to wonder if my Mac is possessed. lol I don't have the problem >> you describe at all. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >> >>> Hello All. >>> >>> Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever you >>> open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail address >>> before the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the message. >>> >>> Kawal. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Purchasing an iMac
Actually, I've been using a MacBook Pro since late 2009, so I appreciate the advantages of a Mac. The desktop purchase signals the end of my PC purchases. With the Elgato device, can I watch programs on our TV, or is this strictly done via our hard drive? We have Time Warner Cable and a DVR receiver on our downstairs TV. Thanks for the assist. Les On Feb 27, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: > Hi there and glad to hear you're making the move to the mac. you won't regret > it. > > I have used the elgato tv tuners and the software isn't exactly bad but has > some accessibility issues. bearing in mind this was some time ago so things > may have changed since. the included software allows you to record the > programs you want to directly to the HDD without any issues, you can schedule > recordings and so much more besides. an amazing bit of kit. they're > reasonably priced so I'd give it a go in all fairness. > > I'm sure others will be able to advise better on this but thought I'd give my > 2P worth > > lew > > On 27 Feb 2012, at 20:22, Les Kriegler wrote: > >> Well, I've had it with our PC and am purchasing an iMac. I'd like to be >> able to record TV shows via a TV Tuner card. I was informed by the Mac >> sales rep that there isn't a card slot, rather, they offered me a device >> called the El Gato Eye TV Hybrid. It's supposed to work with both the Mac >> and PC platforms. Anybody know anything about this device, and equally >> important, any suggestions for recording TV programs and having access to >> program guides? Thanks. >> >> Les >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
It seems like the Mail bugs are a little inconsistent. I don't have the issue Kawal mentions. And, I didn't have the problem with VO not reading the read status, till Saturday, and I have no idea 1, why I didn't have it before, and 2, why it started on Saturday. Cheers, Donna On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > Funny, I have not noticed this myself. > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> Hello All. >> >> Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever you >> open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail address before >> the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the message. >> >> Kawal. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: New iMac User
I've done several pod casts on blind cool tech, you might check those out. Also, voiceover doeshave a built in tutorial which you can start by pressing control option command F8 On Feb 27, 2012, at 6:10 PM, Christine Pierce wrote: > Hello, My name is Christine, and I just bought an iMac. I want to know if > there is any instructions or podcasts for using VoiceOver with commands. I > would really appreciate any help, thank you. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Lynx for mac terminal
I have a compiled copy of lynx the text only web browser I use in terminal. This particular version does not support https secure functions on the net. Does anyone know of a compiled version that does have this and where to get it? Thanks, Dan XB IC|XC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: New iMac User
Hi Christine. Congrats on the iMac. It's a fine machine. Two places to check out would be a series of podcasts by Mike Arigo on Blind Cool Tech. www.blindcooltech.com. Although Mike's Podcast mostly deal with the previous Snow Leopard system many things are still relevant. Also David Woodbridge does some excellent Podcasts on Vision Australia. http://www.visionaustralia.org.au/info.aspx?page=2287 I tested the link so it should work. Theyt have a variety of terrific podcasts. Barry On 2012-02-27, at 8:10 PM, Christine Pierce wrote: > Hello, My name is Christine, and I just bought an iMac. I want to know if > there is any instructions or podcasts for using VoiceOver with commands. I > would really appreciate any help, thank you. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
I updated to Lion a few weeks ago. Mail was awful under Lion, which is why I was not terribly upset this weekend when my Macbook Pro crashed completely for the first time ever in the 27 months I've owned it. I had to erase and reinstall from the Snow Leopard disk that came with the Macbook, and I hadn't run a Time Machine backup since before I installed Lion, so I just restored that backup. My Macbook runs so much better over all with Snow Leopard than it did in the few weeks I had Lion, and mail works flawlessly. None of that busy stuff. I just think mail under Lion is plain clunky. On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:30 PM, Goodin, Donna wrote: > I think the better question is, given that we don't have bugs in iPhone mail, > why do we have them in Mail on the Mac? :) > Cheers, > Donna > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:29 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> Mail is so simple to read using the I phone 4S if you have a bluetooth >> keyboard for convienience sake to reply with, at least you know you've >> replied to an e-mail. Why do we not have bugs in the I phone mail? >> >> Kawal. >> >> On 27 Feb 2012, at 10:09 PM, "Goodin, Donna" wrote: >> >>> Hey Kawal, >>> >>> I'm starting to wonder if my Mac is possessed. lol I don't have the >>> problem you describe at all. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>> Hello All. Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever you open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail address before the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the message. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Purchasing an iMac
The eyeTV USB thing is a digital TV tuner just like in a standalone TV so you should be able to tune in any digital broadcasts that a regular tv can. That said, your cable provider might scramble things or require a decoder box which would limit the utility of the USB tuner. If you are just using an antenna on the roof or something, that isn't an issue but I don't know what TWC does. If they don't require a box then the eyeTV can be your DVR to time shift programs. There is only one tuner so you can't watch live TV while recording a second program, but you can record one program while watching something you recorded previously. My wife is really into football so she record lots of games to watch after the kids are in bed. Takes about 30GB/hr for HD and much less for SD. Just upgraded to a Drobo for increased capacity and some measure of reliability. Our previous 500GB firewire drive just couldn't hold everything anymore. CB On 2/27/12 4:30 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: Actually, I've been using a MacBook Pro since late 2009, so I appreciate the advantages of a Mac. The desktop purchase signals the end of my PC purchases. With the Elgato device, can I watch programs on our TV, or is this strictly done via our hard drive? We have Time Warner Cable and a DVR receiver on our downstairs TV. Thanks for the assist. Les On Feb 27, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: Hi there and glad to hear you're making the move to the mac. you won't regret it. I have used the elgato tv tuners and the software isn't exactly bad but has some accessibility issues. bearing in mind this was some time ago so things may have changed since. the included software allows you to record the programs you want to directly to the HDD without any issues, you can schedule recordings and so much more besides. an amazing bit of kit. they're reasonably priced so I'd give it a go in all fairness. I'm sure others will be able to advise better on this but thought I'd give my 2P worth lew On 27 Feb 2012, at 20:22, Les Kriegler wrote: Well, I've had it with our PC and am purchasing an iMac. I'd like to be able to record TV shows via a TV Tuner card. I was informed by the Mac sales rep that there isn't a card slot, rather, they offered me a device called the El Gato Eye TV Hybrid. It's supposed to work with both the Mac and PC platforms. Anybody know anything about this device, and equally important, any suggestions for recording TV programs and having access to program guides? Thanks. Les -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Purchasing an iMac
Hi Chris, Okay, sounds like a call to TWC is in order. I may be switching providers later this year, we'll see. If Fios comes into our area, I'll probably switch. Les On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:03 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > The eyeTV USB thing is a digital TV tuner just like in a standalone TV so you > should be able to tune in any digital broadcasts that a regular tv can. That > said, your cable provider might scramble things or require a decoder box > which would limit the utility of the USB tuner. If you are just using an > antenna on the roof or something, that isn't an issue but I don't know what > TWC does. If they don't require a box then the eyeTV can be your DVR to time > shift programs. There is only one tuner so you can't watch live TV while > recording a second program, but you can record one program while watching > something you recorded previously. My wife is really into football so she > record lots of games to watch after the kids are in bed. Takes about 30GB/hr > for HD and much less for SD. Just upgraded to a Drobo for increased capacity > and some measure of reliability. Our previous 500GB firewire drive just > couldn't hold everything anymore. > > CB > > On 2/27/12 4:30 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: >> Actually, I've been using a MacBook Pro since late 2009, so I appreciate the >> advantages of a Mac. The desktop purchase signals the end of my PC >> purchases. With the Elgato device, can I watch programs on our TV, or is >> this strictly done via our hard drive? We have Time Warner Cable and a DVR >> receiver on our downstairs TV. Thanks for the assist. >> >> Les >> On Feb 27, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: >> >>> Hi there and glad to hear you're making the move to the mac. you won't >>> regret it. >>> >>> I have used the elgato tv tuners and the software isn't exactly bad but has >>> some accessibility issues. bearing in mind this was some time ago so things >>> may have changed since. the included software allows you to record the >>> programs you want to directly to the HDD without any issues, you can >>> schedule recordings and so much more besides. an amazing bit of kit. >>> they're reasonably priced so I'd give it a go in all fairness. >>> >>> I'm sure others will be able to advise better on this but thought I'd give >>> my 2P worth >>> >>> lew >>> >>> On 27 Feb 2012, at 20:22, Les Kriegler wrote: >>> Well, I've had it with our PC and am purchasing an iMac. I'd like to be able to record TV shows via a TV Tuner card. I was informed by the Mac sales rep that there isn't a card slot, rather, they offered me a device called the El Gato Eye TV Hybrid. It's supposed to work with both the Mac and PC platforms. Anybody know anything about this device, and equally important, any suggestions for recording TV programs and having access to program guides? Thanks. Les -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Mac Basics
Here are some links to videos about basic controls This is general all around controls http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4lbCyMZiEY This one is about basic controls in Safari http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjwwiuzKdI0 This is a two parter. Part one is about Skype and part two is about an awesome feature called Quick Nav. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xsnlo-rsPQ These are just a ouple. If you have specific questions I am sure everyone here can answer them. I have learned more in two days of this group than anywhere else. Mike Malarsie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mail Mail and spell check
Hi Bill and Colin I've also been having trouble with spellcheck in mail on Lion, usually OK in SL. What I have found is that when you check before sending, you used to be able to press escape to exit the spellcheck, for example, when you realised the check had progressed down to the earlier messages in the conversation, but now you can't. As for looking at the original sentence, I used to do that through going between the spellcheck and message windows via the windows menu, although I would sometimes accidentally hit the wrong key and the message would send anyway. Cheers Adrienne On Feb 27, 2:00 am, "Red.Falcon" wrote: > sorry Bill! > No I did not! > I was going to write the solution at the end if they worked! > So change to manual checking if you prefer that! > Colin > > On 27 Feb 2012, at 01:53, Bill Holton wrote: > > > > > > > > > Confused by your messages. Were you able to stop the message from going > > out? > > > -Original Message- > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Red.Falcon > > Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 8:16 PM > > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: Mail Mail and spell check > > > Hi Bill! > > I will check this before sending this one and if it still works I will say > > after this word! > > > On 27 Feb 2012, at 01:07, Bill Holton wrote: > > >> Hi. > >> I set my spell check to go off before the message is sent. But just > > discovered that if I decide the go back and look at the sentence I put the > > word in there doesn't seem to be a way out. Pressing escape on the spell > > check causes the spell check to end and the message to be sent. Did I make > > a mistake using this setting? > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Purchasing an iMac
I would just ask them whether you can use the digital tuner in a tv by itself with their service or if they require a separate box. If you start asking about USB tv tuners on a mac they will probably go down a rabbit trail that will never get you an answer. CB On 2/27/12 5:14 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: Hi Chris, Okay, sounds like a call to TWC is in order. I may be switching providers later this year, we'll see. If Fios comes into our area, I'll probably switch. Les On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:03 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: The eyeTV USB thing is a digital TV tuner just like in a standalone TV so you should be able to tune in any digital broadcasts that a regular tv can. That said, your cable provider might scramble things or require a decoder box which would limit the utility of the USB tuner. If you are just using an antenna on the roof or something, that isn't an issue but I don't know what TWC does. If they don't require a box then the eyeTV can be your DVR to time shift programs. There is only one tuner so you can't watch live TV while recording a second program, but you can record one program while watching something you recorded previously. My wife is really into football so she record lots of games to watch after the kids are in bed. Takes about 30GB/hr for HD and much less for SD. Just upgraded to a Drobo for increased capacity and some measure of reliability. Our previous 500GB firewire drive just couldn't hold everything anymore. CB On 2/27/12 4:30 PM, Les Kriegler wrote: Actually, I've been using a MacBook Pro since late 2009, so I appreciate the advantages of a Mac. The desktop purchase signals the end of my PC purchases. With the Elgato device, can I watch programs on our TV, or is this strictly done via our hard drive? We have Time Warner Cable and a DVR receiver on our downstairs TV. Thanks for the assist. Les On Feb 27, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: Hi there and glad to hear you're making the move to the mac. you won't regret it. I have used the elgato tv tuners and the software isn't exactly bad but has some accessibility issues. bearing in mind this was some time ago so things may have changed since. the included software allows you to record the programs you want to directly to the HDD without any issues, you can schedule recordings and so much more besides. an amazing bit of kit. they're reasonably priced so I'd give it a go in all fairness. I'm sure others will be able to advise better on this but thought I'd give my 2P worth lew On 27 Feb 2012, at 20:22, Les Kriegler wrote: Well, I've had it with our PC and am purchasing an iMac. I'd like to be able to record TV shows via a TV Tuner card. I was informed by the Mac sales rep that there isn't a card slot, rather, they offered me a device called the El Gato Eye TV Hybrid. It's supposed to work with both the Mac and PC platforms. Anybody know anything about this device, and equally important, any suggestions for recording TV programs and having access to program guides? Thanks. Les -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Dropbox ishu
Hi Sorry if I don't understand the issue here, I missed the beginning of the thread. When I focus on a file in Finder in the public folder of my dropbox and bring up the contextual menu with VO+Shift+M, I get the option to copy the public link. Are you saying that this is not happening for you. I just tested it and here is a link for a podcast I have just recorded on selecting text in IOS without a keyboard. I haven't tested the link but it looks as it should to me http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10084394/IOS-SelectingText.mp3 I am not sure if I have done anything different to have this working. Onc again, sorry if I don't understand the issue. Garth @BlindTechMusing On 28/02/2012, at 5:19 AM, Egbert wrote: > Hi, > that may be all possible, but why so f… difficult? > Dropbox and windows have a far more better relation. > I think its a bad deal how dropbox and apple work now, if we talk about the > mac. > Egbert > Op 27 feb. 2012, om 20:10 heeft Esther het volgende geschreven: > >> Hi John, >> >> Instead of memorizing your dropbox public folder address, why don't you take >> advantage of Lion's text expansion capability and define a shortcut for the >> prefix string giving your dropbox public folder address? For example, you >> could set a character string named "dbpf" to expand to >> "http://dl.dropbox/u/12345678/"; whenever you typed it in Mail or TextEdit. >> >> Since Michael just pointed Ezzie to a YouTube video with instructions on how >> to do this yesterday, in order to set a string that gets expanded for >> signatures, I can just paste in his text giving the link: >> >> Ok here is the link. Let me know if you need me to clarify anything. It >> should be clear enough if my memory hasn't failed me. Enjoy! >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKxWbBuDSSI >> >> >> Very briefly, you go to the System Preferences > Language & Text menu and >> select the "Text" tab. Then you press the "Add" button to enter a new entry >> to the "Substitutions" table, and type in the string you want expanded >> (e.g., "dbpf" in the above example), and the replacement string >> (e.g."http://dl.dropbox/u/12345678/";). >> >> Then, in the applications that support such expansion substitution, like >> Mail and TextEdit, you navigate to the "Edit" menu on the menu bar, and >> arrow down to the "Substitutions" menu, then right arrow to the submenu and >> navigate to "Substitutions" to check this option. >> >> That should save you some typing and memorization. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Feb 27, 2012, at 2:19 AM, John Sanfilippo wrote: >> >>> You can find the dropbox contextual menu but I find it hard to describe >>> doing that. >>> I found it to be such a kludge that I simply resorted to memorizing my >>> drobpox public folder address: >>> >>> http://dl.dropbox/u/12345678/fileName.ext >>> >>> O yeah and make sure to name files without spaces to cut down having to >>> type %20 for each space. >>> >>> Smile, of course I occasionally make a typo so folks write back and >>> complain that they can't access the file. >>> >>> Also, be sure that you allow time for the transfer to take place after >>> you've copied files into the dropbox folder. >>> >>> hth, >>> >>> John S >>> >>> >>> . >>> On Feb 27, 2012, at 3:31 AM, Egbert wrote: >>> >>> Hi and good morning! >>> i try to add some material in my dropbox, but whatever i try, it does not >>> work There is also the fact that not every folder in my dropbox is detected >>> by my macbook. >>> In my IPhone are more folderds then on the dropbox on my Mac. >>> >>> In windows i had the possibilaty to send people a link when i wanted to >>> share some things, macwhise, i don't see that option. >>> Any tips or tricks? >>> Egbert . >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Lynx for mac terminal
You might want to set up Macports on your machine. From there you can install any number of (about 13000) unix packages including lynx 2.8.7 which has dependencies on openssl so I assume it allows the use of https: http://www.macports.org/ lynx port page: http://www.macports.org/ports.php?by=name&substr=lynx CB On 2/27/12 12:56 PM, .dan. wrote: I have a compiled copy of lynx the text only web browser I use in terminal. This particular version does not support https secure functions on the net. Does anyone know of a compiled version that does have this and where to get it? Thanks, Dan XB IC|XC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
I too have problems with Mail
Hi all, I am having this issue as well as I have updated lion and hear the email address read. Another mail issue is when I am reading an email, and wish to move by character, the reading starts from the top of the email no matter where I am in it. this goes away when I reply and interact with the edit text. I am a more recent Mac user, and have purchased a macbook pro in december of last year. I am truly loving most of my new explorations but mail has been problematic. I have my mail in "classical view" Jerry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Continuous Reading in Ibooks on iPhone 4S
Hello Esther and others, I would like to thank you all very much for your input regarding my question about continuous reading of a book in the iBook application. As you stated, Esther, a two-finger flick down from within the text did the trick. And yes, I agree that upon more thought, this makes sense. Now to my next question: Is it a reasonable expectation that most commercially-done, contemporary novels found in the bookstore will be accessible? Even though I am currently in the U.S., I am still taken to the Austrian App Store, though manually switching isn't a problem. Kindest regards and thanks once again for your assistance, Mike On 26,Feb,2012, at 12:59 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Just to expand on my comment about issuing the two-finger flick down from the > text area of the book to get continuous reading going in iBooks. Since this > gesture is meant to "read all" on the current page, starting from your > present position, if you wanted to find out about the page chooser at the > bottom of the screen the first time you checked the layout of controls in > iBooks, and were starting from the buttons for Library and table of contents, > you wouldn't want VoiceOver to keep reading to the end of the book before > telling you that there were additional controls at the bottom of the page. > > So what happens is that a two-finger flick down initiated from the area with > button controls at the top of the screen just reads the text that is on the > current page, then goes on to read the controls at the bottom of the screen. > But if you initiate the two-finger flick down from within the text area, your > "read all from present point" gesture continues to read through the text > area, only, and will automatically go on to the next page. > > This originally confused me, too, the first time I encountered it and didn't > have VO read the rest of the page. But then it made sense that it would work > that way. > > Most people touch the center of the screen when they do their two-finger > flick down, so that's why they automatically get the continuous reading. > > You'll still notice a slight pause when you reach the end of the current > page. That's because iBooks does a simulated page turn graphic. This > annoyed the heck out of some early reviewers (who were not visually impaired. > Andy Ihnatko wrote in his initial, otherwise positive, review of iBooks for > the Chicago Sun: "I do wish I could disable the fancy page-curl animation. On > an iPhone 3GS, at least, there’s a slight, but annoying, additional pause as > the app does a whole lot of math.") If this really annoys you, changing the > font size to be small will put a lot more text on the screen before you get > that slight pause. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 26, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Mike, >> >> Try doing the two-finger flick down from the middle of the text page. For >> example, if you're reading in the page, do a two-finger tap to stop. Then do >> a two-finger flick down. Usually when you're in the text area this will >> work for continuous reading. Or you can try to touch the center of the >> screen for the text area first, then do the two finger flick down. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Feb 26, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Mike Busboom wrote: >> >>> Hello Jane, >>> >>> That's the problem. A two-finger flick down reads the current page, but >>> reading is halted at the end of the page. I have been unsuccessful at >>> having continuous read to work. I am read the current page from start to >>> finish, but then VO stops reading, i.e. the next page isn't turned to, nor >>> is reading continued. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> On 26,Feb,2012, at 11:56 AM, Jane wrote: >>> Hi. Tru a two-finger-flick-down. That'll start it reading and will turn pages. Jane On Feb 26, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Mike Busboom wrote: > Hello everyone, > > A couple of weeks ago, I downloaded the book on Siri and have started to > read it. The navigation works reasonably well, i.e. I can go to specific > pages and read a page in its entirety. Where I am having a problem, > however, is getting VoiceOver to read continuously. At present, at least > with the approach that seems to be working for me, I have to go to the > page chooser and flick to the next page.. > > > Is there a way to get iBooks to do continuous scrolling or get VoiceOver > to automatically "turn pages and thus ensure continuous reading," as it > were? I am staying with a friend who has an iPad and he tells me that he > is able to get this to work. He puts his iPad in Landscape mode and can > see two pages at a time. Would putting my iPhone in Landscape Mode yield > the same results? I tried,but was unsuccessful. > > Kindest regards to all, with thanks in advance, > > Mike >
Tip: Facebook Tagging Seems to Work Best With Cursor tracking Off
Hi, all, When using the Facebook full site, I've tried tagging with cursor tracking on with no effect. However, it seems to work quite consistently with cursor tracking off. when I want to tag someone in my status, I type the @ symbol, immediately followed by the beginning of a person's name. I then turn cursor tracking off with VO-Shift-f3, then press VO-shift-end to go to the end of the spoken webpage content. I VO-left from there until I reach the name I want, then VO-space on it. I can then edit it, for example taking the last name out (as in, "Mike showed me this the other day and I thought I'd share it." Then I post as usual. I am using DOM order with the full site. I haven't tried this on the mobile site, and I haven't tried it with the IPod Touch in either the app or the website. HTH, Teresa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Tip: Facebook Tagging Seems to Work Best With Cursor tracking Off
Hello Teresa And All, I've been tagging people in a bit of a different way. I type the @ symbol followed by the first few letters of a person's name. I then proceed with the press of the ENTER key and the rest of the person's name is completed. HTH, Ezzie Ezzie Bueno Sent from my Macbook Pro ezziebu...@gmail.com (323) 448-0757 Check out daily jokes and more! www.SillyEz.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/SillyEz Twitter: http://twitter.com/SillyEz On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:35 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Hi, all, > > When using the Facebook full site, I've tried tagging with cursor tracking on > with no effect. However, it seems to work quite consistently with cursor > tracking off. > > when I want to tag someone in my status, I type the @ symbol, immediately > followed by the beginning of a person's name. I then turn cursor tracking off > with VO-Shift-f3, then press VO-shift-end to go to the end of the spoken > webpage content. I VO-left from there until I reach the name I want, then > VO-space on it. I can then edit it, for example taking the last name out (as > in, "Mike showed me this the other day and I thought I'd share it." Then I > post as usual. > > I am using DOM order with the full site. I haven't tried this on the mobile > site, and I haven't tried it with the IPod Touch in either the app or the > website. > > HTH, > Teresa > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Another Annoying issue in mail.
I still find for the fastest and most efficient way to read my e-mail is to use mutt on my Linux box. That's hardly the right answer for a Mac users list though. When I am in Apple's Mail, the only complaint I have right now other than general GUI clunkiness, is the problem with VO not reading the read/unread status. I'm quite sure I know why these statuses aren't being read by VO however. Every time you cursor down the list of messages, The adjacent window containing the selected message is opened, thus the status changes to 'read' and AFAIK, there is no symbol present for VO to speak once it is read. I forgot how to keep the message from being opened even in classic view so I went back to the newer presentation and if I really want to see the statuses, I just turn VO tracking off and then look down the list of messages with VO-arrow keys and this way, the messages don't get selected nor opened. All I need now would be a single hot key to bring the application cursor down to where the VO cursor is. We have a command to go the other way but not this way. I could be mistaken with some of these observations because I'm stil one of those "new guys." On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 07:39:07PM -0500, Goodin, Donna wrote: > It seems like the Mail bugs are a little inconsistent. I don't have the > issue Kawal mentions. And, I didn't have the problem with VO not reading > the read status, till Saturday, and I have no idea 1, why I didn't have it > before, and 2, why it started on Saturday. > Cheers, > Donna > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > > > Funny, I have not noticed this myself. > > > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > > > >> Hello All. > >> > >> Don't know if any one has noticed since the update of Lion, when ever you > >> open a mail, Voice Over is always reading the person's e-mail address > >> before the message. I prefer the old way where it just read the message. > >> > >> Kawal. > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > >> > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Dropbox ishu
Hi and good morning! i try to add some material in my dropbox, but whatever i try, it does not work There is also the fact that not every folder in my dropbox is detected by my macbook. In my IPhone are more folderds then on the dropbox on my Mac. In windows i had the possibilaty to send people a link when i wanted to share some things, macwhise, i don't see that option. Any tips or tricks? Egbert . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Ical question
Hello Marc, To create a new event in iCal, press Cmd-n then type something like: "Dental appointment on Friday March 2nd at 3:30 pm", then press Return. iCal will format the event for you and you can add bits or change things by navigating right to the scroll area, where you interact. Here you'll find all the possible fields, including the menu for selecting the appropriate calendar. To go to a particular date, press Cmd-Shift-t and start typing the date you want. iCal will autofill the field and you can adjust it to what you want, then press Return. To look at the week's events, interact with the grid. Navigate using the VO keys and you'll hear something like Monday 2 events. Tuesday list. Where it just says List, there are no events. To look at the events on a particular day, interact with the list. HTH, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille Touch: please help get Apple onboard
Becky, You say "we" and perhaps that should be "I" because I for one do not find the keyboard difficult to type on. THe letters really do not change position and nor would the keys for entering Braille. Regardless if you have have a Braille keyboard or not there will be a learning curve in locating specific points on the screen. Maybe you do not have to move your fingers as much to reach a different location, but nevertheless there will always be some limit to speed just in the fact this is a touch screen. In addition, it would be much more difficult for someone to hold the phone and change how they interface with the phone. To use this Braille method will require someone to learn to hold the phone with their thumbs and a finger or two. I have nothing against the idea, but I am not sure if Apple really would latch on to this either. The one good thing is that Apple has some of the translation software in place, so if they opted to implement such a keyboard it may not require quite as much work. On Feb 26, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Becky Knaub wrote: > I see what you mean. There is a difference in something being accessible and > being easy and quick for people to use in an equal fashion to sighted people. > Yes we can type on the keyboard but it is not quick, or that easy. It takes > time and can be frustrating. I hope they at least think it over. > > Becky > On Feb 26, 2012, at 8:58 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> Here is one reason among many why android is much more flexible, adding this >> functionality will not have any restrictions. Yes, Apple does not allow >> adding other keyboards, or input methods as they might be called. The thing >> is, if Apple allows this one, other developers will want to do the same >> thing. That may not be a bad thing, alternative keyboards may be a good >> thing, but I would not count on Apple changing their policy on this one. >> Also their thought could be, the built in on screen keyboard is already >> accessible, why not use that? That is a valid point, guess time will tell on >> this one. >> On Feb 26, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >> >>> Hello all, >>> There has been much discussion about the new Braille Touch app lately. >>> For anyone who missed it, this is an app coming out sometime this year >>> that lets users type in braille on an iOS or Android device. >>> Basically, you hold the device sideways, the home button to your right >>> or left. You then place three fingers on either end of the screen and >>> start typing. This beats the current braille entry app out there >>> because (1) it will be free and (2) it lets you enter the character >>> all at once, not a row at a time. >>> >>> Here is where it needs your help: Apple's developer guidelines and >>> terms of service state that, basically, no app can add its own >>> keyboard to the keyboards available in iOS. this means that there is >>> no way to use the braille keyboard outside the app; no writing texts >>> or emails with it, no using it to do a search, no nothing. Yes, you >>> can use the app and then copy and paste, but if you just want to write >>> a quick email, add a contact, or even edit a document, you can't take >>> advantage of braille. Apple needs to know that we (blind and visually >>> impaired users of iOS) want and need this functionality in iOS. Please >>> take a couple minutes to send a message to accessibil...@apple.com. >>> Tell them you want them to include Braille Touch's keyboard in iOS so >>> that it can be used where ever you need to enter text, in place of the >>> on-screen QWERTY keyboard that iOS currently forces you to use. Point >>> out that this keyboard transforms the iOS line of products from PDAs >>> with great accessibility into true braille devices. Most of all, tell >>> them how important it is to you that this feature be included >>> system-wide as soon as possible. Offer any further suggestions, >>> testimonials, and anything else you think will help, but please take >>> the time to send accessibil...@apple.com a message asking them to take >>> this massive step into the future of accessibility. Thanks for your >>> time and effort. Also, please send this request to anyone else who can >>> help (other lists, friends or family who use iOS, braille instructors >>> familiar with iOS... anyone). Remember that the more interest Apple >>> sees in this, the more likely they are to take notice and do something >>> about it. They have always been good at listening to feedback from >>> their accessibility market, so let's take advantage of that to push >>> for this braille keyboard. >>> >>> -- >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macv
Re: Braille Touch: please help get Apple onboard
Alex, I think there is one of the key problems. If someone has developed the app, are they really going to be willing to give the nod to APple for implementing their app into the OS? Yes it is free, but there surely are issues of intelectual rights and such. I suspect APple would have to buy the rights perhaps. ANd this is one of the concerns I expressed. Whether or not the concept makes sense or is efficient at this point would be irrelevant if Apple would have to pay the developers for the rights to use the concept. On Feb 26, 2012, at 11:36 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > It is not. There is an app called TypeInBraille, which is not the same > thing as the upcoming app at all; don't confuse the two, or you may > decide that input will not work. TypeInBraille uses a concept where > you enter a cell one row at a time; tap the left side for dot 1, the > right for dot 4, tap two fingers for 1 and 4, or tap three fingers to > skip this row. Once you do one of these, you move to the same gestures > for dots 2 and 5, then dots 3 and 6. So, you basically enter each > character two dots at a time. > Braille Touch, on the other hand, uses all six dots at once, Hold your > iTouch sideways, the home button to the left or right, and put your > thumbs behind the device. Put three fingers of each hand on the > screen, facing each other, as though the two rows of the standard > braille keyboard had been pivoted up so the tops of the keys faced > each other across the empty middle of the screen. From this position > you would type your braille. I tried it (with the iPod locked, but it > gave me an idea) and it took getting used to. Even so, I was getting > pretty good after a while, and it was easy to make the characters once > I stopped trying to think and just let my fingers do the typing. The > orientation is weird at first, though. > Anyway, the app will be available sometime this year; I have heard as > late as fall and as early as a couple weeks, so who knows? The team > developing it says it will be free when it comes out, so everyone can > try it to see how they like it. > > On 2/26/12, James Mannion wrote: >> I see your point about hoping to incorporate it as a keyboard option >> similar to a language keyboard. Braille is kind of a "language". I >> agree that making it an additional option and not taking anything away >> is an extremely important point to stress. Is the stand alone app >> available in the US yet? I could not find it and I wanted to see what >> my efficiency would be with using it. Someone had it that posted to >> the list from the UK I believe, but I could not get it to come up on a >> search at all. >> >> On 2/26/12, erik burggraaf wrote: >>> You guys are all crazy. :) the code is already written, tested, and >>> working. No one is saying you have to use it just because it's >>> implemented. >>> We're just saying it should be a choice for people who want it. Apple >>> could do this by taking the code that's already been tested and >>> implementing >>> it across the board in stead of restricting it to it's own app. It's a >>> move >>> that makes sense. If you don't like to type in braille yourself, just >>> ignore the option, but since the work to make it happen is already done, >>> why >>> not let people who find it useful... well... use it? >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Erik Burggraaf >>> Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, New >>> drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, visit >>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com >>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >>> >>> On 2012-02-26, at 8:54 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>> Hi guys. Well, I can't imagine how this would be an advantage, but then, this is no flat screen, no way, for the year 2010 speaking here. Back in 2010, I couldn't imagine how we could do flat screens. When I hear about flat screens these days, I think, does it work like the iPhone, and if it doesn't I don't want it. I write very fast in braille. I probably braille faster than I type. Now that I have Siri, I don't use my keyboard on the iPhone as much. Somebody I know made the incredible comment that she thought sighted people would learn braille so they could increase their typing speed on the iPhone. I can kind of see sighted people learning a few things, but really, I just can't see sighted people doing that. My sighted husband still uses a cheat sheet to write grade 1, and he sometimes writes unique braille. I, for one, think there are some more pressing issues for us. For one thing, I just had to go use that desktop machine running under Vista to get some tax forms done. I'm reluctant to put Windows on my Mac as some of you have, so I sat in the other room for several hours today with two computers in the office, on
Re: more on status not being read in Mail
Thank you Mark for confirming that. For clarity sake and (if Donna doesn't mind me saying so) did you get any kind of response? As Donna says it's not a bug although this was what was discussed on list as I hate to be contradicted and if there is going to be an issue then I can be contacted privately although it would be silly to argue over that. Best wishes, Kawal. On 27 Feb 2012, at 03:12 AM, "M. Taylor" wrote: > Hello, > > I did, indeed, report this bug to Apple. > > Mark > On Feb 25, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> Hello Donna. >> >> If you are usimg the latest update in Lion, what you experience is a bug or >> problem as Mark Taylor brought this to the list's attention when he >> installed the latest update. As I recall, he was going to write to Apple >> Accessability although I have no idea if this has been done as there were >> other list members doing the same. I'd suggest you write to the >> Accessability team at Apple explaining what you experience with the latest >> update in mail if you are using that. >> >> Kawal. >> >> On 25 Feb 2012, at 09:33 PM, "Goodin, Donna" wrote: >> >>> Hi again, all, >>> >>> It seems that the only thing that isn't being read is whether a message is >>> read or unread. VO does announce if if I have replied to a message. this >>> is really strange and very annoying. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Abbyy Finereader express
Hello Becky, On 26 Feb 2012, at 15:57, Becky Knaub wrote: > Can it take PDF's from school that are blank as far as VO is concerned into > readable images? Yes. Just open the image with ABBYY FineReader and click on the appropriate button (RTF, PDF, HTML). > How well does this program work with VO? It works fine with VO. > Does anyone know if the epson printer scanner that is wireless and comes with > the Mac is able to do the scanning we as blind people require? > There is no specific scanner that comes with the Mac so I don't know which you're talking about. I use ABBYY FineReader with VueScan because when scanning a book, I like to have all the images in one file which is then opened by ABBYY FineReader to perform the OCR. OCR is what ABBYY Reader does, nothing more and nothing less. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Dropbox ishu
>From what I've seen so far, I haven't had any discrepencies with files and directories but I did only see one context menu option on the dropbox folder; that was for going to the dropbox website. No thanks, I don't like their website much. I wish there were more options on the folder. Dunno if that is default behavior if if we have a problem here with the Mac version. On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 09:31:09AM +0100, Egbert wrote: > Hi and good morning! > i try to add some material in my dropbox, but whatever i try, it does not > work There is also the fact that not every folder in my dropbox is detected > by my macbook. > In my IPhone are more folderds then on the dropbox on my Mac. > > In windows i had the possibilaty to send people a link when i wanted to share > some things, macwhise, i don't see that option. > Any tips or tricks? > Egbert . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Dropbox ishu
You can find the dropbox contextual menu but I find it hard to describe doing that. I found it to be such a kludge that I simply resorted to memorizing my drobpox public folder address: http://dl.dropbox/u/12345678/fileName.ext O yeah and make sure to name files without spaces to cut down having to type %20 for each space. Smile, of course I occasionally make a typo so folks write back and complain that they can't access the file. Also, be sure that you allow time for the transfer to take place after you've copied files into the dropbox folder. hth, John S . On Feb 27, 2012, at 3:31 AM, Egbert wrote: Hi and good morning! i try to add some material in my dropbox, but whatever i try, it does not work There is also the fact that not every folder in my dropbox is detected by my macbook. In my IPhone are more folderds then on the dropbox on my Mac. In windows i had the possibilaty to send people a link when i wanted to share some things, macwhise, i don't see that option. Any tips or tricks? Egbert . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Ical question
Hi: Set your calendar to view by day, that way you can see your events. I believe there is a table to the left of the calendar that has a list events. On Feb 26, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Marc Sutton wrote: > Hi Kawal, > No problem. I suspected you might be referring to the addressbook. It seems > like there is a lot of interacting necessary in order to browse a calendar. I > will see if the iphone app is more efficient. > > On Feb 26, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> Oh Mark, >> >> I just realise that I have been talking about the address book. Please >> forgive me for that as I must have been very tired when I wrote that first >> message and I had been in my address book yesterday and thought it was the >> calendar for no good reason. >> >> But yes, interact with the entries on your calendar and you need to interact >> again with the information once you find an entry that you want to read. I >> normally use the calendar on my I phone as it is much easier than my Mac >> although I have entered dates and events using my Mac Book Pro and when >> putting in new events, I normally do command N for new, then vo right tro >> where the title and location is to go, and so on until the fields are all >> filled in, once I want to go to a particular entry, stop interacting, then >> vo right until I get to the scroll area, interact twice to read the >> information. >> >> Again please accept my apology. >> >> Kawal. >> >> On 26 Feb 2012, at 07:22 PM, Marc Sutton wrote: >> >>> Hi Kawal, >>> I don't find any tables in ical. I am just wondering what you mean vy >>> contacts. Do you mean events? I am using ical under lion and there are >>> dates listed but not in any table view. Thanks. >>> Marc >>> >>> On Feb 25, 2012, at 11:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>> I found that choice by accident when doing VO right arrow once I got past the contacts table (not in the view menu) either. There is a list view or a table group, it's radio buttons. Just choose the table group. I had formatted my Mac prior to this so I don't know if that was the default. Kawal. On 26 Feb 2012, at 03:24 AM, Marc Sutton wrote: > Hi Kiwal, > I am wondering how you choose the table view in ical. There is no menu > choice for this under view. Thanks. > Marc > > On Feb 25, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> Hello Mark. >> >> I suggest if you are using the Ical on your mac, make sure your contacts >> are in table view then when you get to what entry you want to hear, stop >> interacting with that entry, go to the scroll area and interact twice >> and vo right arrow through that entry. That is how I do it. You can >> also install a wigit or you have a wigit which you will find (forget >> where it is) as I've not used them yet, and there you can view your >> calendar entries. >> >> Please someone correct me if there is a better way to use the calendar. >> >> Kawal. >> >> On 25 Feb 2012, at 09:34 PM, Marc Sutton wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> I am just starting to explore the Ical program. I have it set to week >>> view. I added some entries. When I move through the week using vo, i >>> will hear about one event on a particular day. Does anyone know how to >>> hear the time of that event and even hear all the events for that day >>> spoken at once. I am trying to figure out how to quickly and >>> efficiently use the calendar. This would be one feature that could make >>> that possible--the ability to quickly scan events scheduled for the >>> future. Any tips? >>> Thanks. Marc >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/m
Re: Braille Touch: please help get Apple onboard
The developers are not just making the app free, but the source code as well. In addition, they have said that they do not want money for licensing rights or anything, so apple could do this with no money and no problem. On 2/27/12, Scott Howell wrote: > Alex, > > I think there is one of the key problems. If someone has developed the app, > are they really going to be willing to give the nod to APple for > implementing their app into the OS? Yes it is free, but there surely are > issues of intelectual rights and such. I suspect APple would have to buy the > rights perhaps. ANd this is one of the concerns I expressed. Whether or not > the concept makes sense or is efficient at this point would be irrelevant > if Apple would have to pay the developers for the rights to use the concept. > > On Feb 26, 2012, at 11:36 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > >> It is not. There is an app called TypeInBraille, which is not the same >> thing as the upcoming app at all; don't confuse the two, or you may >> decide that input will not work. TypeInBraille uses a concept where >> you enter a cell one row at a time; tap the left side for dot 1, the >> right for dot 4, tap two fingers for 1 and 4, or tap three fingers to >> skip this row. Once you do one of these, you move to the same gestures >> for dots 2 and 5, then dots 3 and 6. So, you basically enter each >> character two dots at a time. >> Braille Touch, on the other hand, uses all six dots at once, Hold your >> iTouch sideways, the home button to the left or right, and put your >> thumbs behind the device. Put three fingers of each hand on the >> screen, facing each other, as though the two rows of the standard >> braille keyboard had been pivoted up so the tops of the keys faced >> each other across the empty middle of the screen. From this position >> you would type your braille. I tried it (with the iPod locked, but it >> gave me an idea) and it took getting used to. Even so, I was getting >> pretty good after a while, and it was easy to make the characters once >> I stopped trying to think and just let my fingers do the typing. The >> orientation is weird at first, though. >> Anyway, the app will be available sometime this year; I have heard as >> late as fall and as early as a couple weeks, so who knows? The team >> developing it says it will be free when it comes out, so everyone can >> try it to see how they like it. >> >> On 2/26/12, James Mannion wrote: >>> I see your point about hoping to incorporate it as a keyboard option >>> similar to a language keyboard. Braille is kind of a "language". I >>> agree that making it an additional option and not taking anything away >>> is an extremely important point to stress. Is the stand alone app >>> available in the US yet? I could not find it and I wanted to see what >>> my efficiency would be with using it. Someone had it that posted to >>> the list from the UK I believe, but I could not get it to come up on a >>> search at all. >>> >>> On 2/26/12, erik burggraaf wrote: You guys are all crazy. :) the code is already written, tested, and working. No one is saying you have to use it just because it's implemented. We're just saying it should be a choice for people who want it. Apple could do this by taking the code that's already been tested and implementing it across the board in stead of restricting it to it's own app. It's a move that makes sense. If you don't like to type in braille yourself, just ignore the option, but since the work to make it happen is already done, why not let people who find it useful... well... use it? Best, Erik Burggraaf Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, New drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-02-26, at 8:54 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > Hi guys. > Well, I can't imagine how this would be an advantage, but then, this is > no > flat screen, no way, for the year 2010 speaking here. Back in 2010, I > couldn't imagine how we could do flat screens. When I hear about flat > screens these days, I think, does it work like the iPhone, and if it > doesn't I don't want it. I write very fast in braille. I probably > braille > faster than I type. Now that I have Siri, I don't use my keyboard on > the > iPhone as much. Somebody I know made the incredible comment that she > thought sighted people would learn braille so they could increase their > typing speed on the iPhone. I can kind of see sighted people learning a > few things, but really, I just can't see sighted people doing that. My > sighted husband still uses a cheat sheet to write grade 1, and he > sometimes writes unique br
text edit and braille margins
Dear listers, I have an old braille printer that is not attached to my mac. To emboss something, all I have to do is create simple plain text files with 27 lines per page, and no more than 30 characters per line. Looking at how text edit handles printing however, that works with inches or centimeters, and in general, with a bitmap, the size of the paper you choose to print on. Characters, lines and the whole page can be scaled. However, what I need for my braille printer is to ignore scaling, and tell text edit to wrap to the next line after 30 characters max, and a page break after 27 lines, no matter which font size etc I choose, because fonts etc are not important in braille. Once a text document has been loaded in text edit, how do I reformat it, so that it writes a carriage return line feed pair at the end of each line of 30 characters most, and a page break, control l, at the end of 27 lines? Very interested. I'm now doing it all by hand, but since I received 8 songs from my choir all at once, I'm hoping to learn an easier way to reformat typed text into something my braille printer can handle. That braille printer is on windows, but I'd rather do all the preparations in text edit, than on a windows machine. Is it possible to make text edit do what I need here? Paul. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: text edit and braille margins
Oo, I have much the same concern, so I'm looking forward to hearing more about this. js On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:42 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: Dear listers, I have an old braille printer that is not attached to my mac. To emboss something, all I have to do is create simple plain text files with 27 lines per page, and no more than 30 characters per line. Looking at how text edit handles printing however, that works with inches or centimeters, and in general, with a bitmap, the size of the paper you choose to print on. Characters, lines and the whole page can be scaled. However, what I need for my braille printer is to ignore scaling, and tell text edit to wrap to the next line after 30 characters max, and a page break after 27 lines, no matter which font size etc I choose, because fonts etc are not important in braille. Once a text document has been loaded in text edit, how do I reformat it, so that it writes a carriage return line feed pair at the end of each line of 30 characters most, and a page break, control l, at the end of 27 lines? Very interested. I'm now doing it all by hand, but since I received 8 songs from my choir all at once, I'm hoping to learn an easier way to reformat typed text into something my braille printer can handle. That braille printer is on windows, but I'd rather do all the preparations in text edit, than on a windows machine. Is it possible to make text edit do what I need here? Paul. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Play/Pause YouTube Videos
Emreh, The html5 worked!! Thank you very much! It did say that videos with ads in them are not available in html5 so those will still play with the flash player but still this works much better. It sounds like this is still in the testing phases. Pretty cool though. Thanks again. Mike Malarsie On Feb 27, 2012, at 12:56 AM, Emrah wrote: > Hey Mike, > > You will have much better accessibility if you enable the HTML5 feature of > Youtube. > Go to http://www.youtube.com/html5 and just click the link that will allow > you to join the HTML5 beta program. It will save a Cookie in your browser and > that will be all. > After that, all videos that can be streamed and rendered using HTML5 will > have some new options that you will be able to read with VoiceOver, including > the Pause option. > > I do not use Youtube extensively and hope my info is still up to date. > > Let me know if this solution works and good luck, > > Emrah > On Feb 26, 2012, at 10:25 PM, Michael Malarsie wrote: > >> Hey guys I have a question of my own. >> To this day I can't figure out how to pause and resume playing YouTube >> videos. I have always had to just let them play and I listen to the Voice >> Over. Any info for me? I am hoping there is an wasy solution that I have >> just overlooked like I have with some other basic functions. Thanks everyone! >> >> >> Mike Malarsie >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille Touch: please help get Apple onboard
I for one can't type at 32 words per minute at any sort of accuracy on the iPhone or iPad (without a bluetooth keyboard :)) so I'm eager to see this thing in action. The developers' practical testing has been admittedly limited, but even a fraction of that potential improvement could save minutes every day. As to some of the other concerns, the team might be eager to share, but has Georgia Tech as an institution weighed in? I don't see the harm in asking Apple to incorporate it into the OS though, barring legal concerns, it's just another language keyboard; I mean, there's one for emoticons...! lol Respectfully, Aser Tolentino, Esq. On 26/02/2012, at 7:58 PM, James Mannion wrote: > I see your point about hoping to incorporate it as a keyboard option > similar to a language keyboard. Braille is kind of a "language". I > agree that making it an additional option and not taking anything away > is an extremely important point to stress. Is the stand alone app > available in the US yet? I could not find it and I wanted to see what > my efficiency would be with using it. Someone had it that posted to > the list from the UK I believe, but I could not get it to come up on a > search at all. > > On 2/26/12, erik burggraaf wrote: >> You guys are all crazy. :) the code is already written, tested, and >> working. No one is saying you have to use it just because it's implemented. >> We're just saying it should be a choice for people who want it. Apple >> could do this by taking the code that's already been tested and implementing >> it across the board in stead of restricting it to it's own app. It's a move >> that makes sense. If you don't like to type in braille yourself, just >> ignore the option, but since the work to make it happen is already done, why >> not let people who find it useful... well... use it? >> >> Best, >> >> Erik Burggraaf >> Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, New >> drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, visit >> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com >> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2012-02-26, at 8:54 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >> >>> Hi guys. >>> Well, I can't imagine how this would be an advantage, but then, this is no >>> flat screen, no way, for the year 2010 speaking here. Back in 2010, I >>> couldn't imagine how we could do flat screens. When I hear about flat >>> screens these days, I think, does it work like the iPhone, and if it >>> doesn't I don't want it. I write very fast in braille. I probably braille >>> faster than I type. Now that I have Siri, I don't use my keyboard on the >>> iPhone as much. Somebody I know made the incredible comment that she >>> thought sighted people would learn braille so they could increase their >>> typing speed on the iPhone. I can kind of see sighted people learning a >>> few things, but really, I just can't see sighted people doing that. My >>> sighted husband still uses a cheat sheet to write grade 1, and he >>> sometimes writes unique braille. >>> >>> I, for one, think there are some more pressing issues for us. For one >>> thing, I just had to go use that desktop machine running under Vista to >>> get some tax forms done. I'm reluctant to put >>> Windows on my Mac as some of you have, so I sat in the other room for >>> several hours today with two computers in the office, one of which was the >>> Mac. I know how to do tax forms, no problem, but going back and forth to >>> get numbers, etc. slowed me down considerable. >>> >>> About once a year, and sometimes more often, I really need that program to >>> fill out PDF forms. I hate PDF files. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Gigi >>> >>> On Feb 26, 2012, at 5:29 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>> Again, I don't want them to change their guidelines to let any app developer add keyboards. What I want is for them to take the code and use it as a keyboard in iOS, not an app in any way. So, when you unpack an iPhone running a version of iOS with the keyboard in it (probably 6 as 5.1 is already in beta), there is no "braille keyboard" app hangin out on your home screen. Rather, it is just there, like the foreign language keyboards are there. As to advantage: in a word, yes. I use qwerty and braille entry about equally, probably leaning more toward qwerty actually, and I am very fast with both. Qwerty on iOS, though, is different since it is not just typing, it is having to find a character, make sure it is right, wait for it to be entered, then repeat. No muscle memory and a lot of moving one finger make it a slow and inefficient typing method, and anyone, sighted or blind, will tell you the same (at least they have in my experience). Braille on iOS, though, allows for typing with no moving all over the screen and with the ability to type from memo
Re: text edit and braille margins
This is a perfect example of the kind of stuff you can do in the unix shell of terminal. Save a text file somewhere handy like your desktop. I called mine test.txt. Then open terminal and cd to wherever you have the file. So for me I did cd ~/Desktop then use the fold command which breaks text files into fixed length lines like this: fold -w30 -s test.txt The -s parameter says to break lines on spaces. If you don't mind it breaking in the middle of a word you can leave that out. If you someday splurge on a 40 cell display just change the 30 to a 40. That at least gets you partway there. The shell has the idea of a pipe written as "|" where the output of one command becomes the input to the next. So we can pipe the output from fold to the input of the "pr" command which lets us insert page breaks like this: fold -w30 -s test.txt | pr -tF -l27 the pr command normally adds headers and such to each page which we suppress with the -t option. The F option says to output real pagrebreaks rather than a bunch of extra newlines. The L parameter, as you can guess, is how many lines before a pagebreak. To learn more about the fold or pr commands just type "man" followed by the command to get more details from the manual pages. man man tells you about the manual itself. Of course you probably want to write all this good stuff back out to a file. To do that we want to redirect the output to a file instead of the terminal. To do that we add a redirect using the ">" and then a filename to the end of the recipe like this: fold -w30 -s test.txt | pr -tF -l27 > fixed.txt and you should find a fixed.txt file on your desktop all nicely formatted. Welcome to the dark underbelly of OSX where great power and capability lie, if you can just find the right man page :) CB On 2/27/12 6:47 AM, John Sanfilippo wrote: Oo, I have much the same concern, so I'm looking forward to hearing more about this. js On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:42 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: Dear listers, I have an old braille printer that is not attached to my mac. To emboss something, all I have to do is create simple plain text files with 27 lines per page, and no more than 30 characters per line. Looking at how text edit handles printing however, that works with inches or centimeters, and in general, with a bitmap, the size of the paper you choose to print on. Characters, lines and the whole page can be scaled. However, what I need for my braille printer is to ignore scaling, and tell text edit to wrap to the next line after 30 characters max, and a page break after 27 lines, no matter which font size etc I choose, because fonts etc are not important in braille. Once a text document has been loaded in text edit, how do I reformat it, so that it writes a carriage return line feed pair at the end of each line of 30 characters most, and a page break, control l, at the end of 27 lines? Very interested. I'm now doing it all by hand, but since I received 8 songs from my choir all at once, I'm hoping to learn an easier way to reformat typed text into something my braille printer can handle. That braille printer is on windows, but I'd rather do all the preparations in text edit, than on a windows machine. Is it possible to make text edit do what I need here? Paul. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille Touch: please help get Apple onboard
Wanted answer the assertion of Android being more flexible. While anyone could add a different keyboard to Android, I'm not clear how that would get universally baked in so that anyone pickup an Android phone would get this option. It's the same problem that if you want it baked into Android you would have to get Google to do it. Of course you could argue whether Apple or Google is more receptive to making this addition but it's still something that has to be done by the platform owner. I think what we don't want is some kind of extra thing you have to know about, download and install. CB On 2/26/12 5:58 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Here is one reason among many why android is much more flexible, adding this functionality will not have any restrictions. Yes, Apple does not allow adding other keyboards, or input methods as they might be called. The thing is, if Apple allows this one, other developers will want to do the same thing. That may not be a bad thing, alternative keyboards may be a good thing, but I would not count on Apple changing their policy on this one. Also their thought could be, the built in on screen keyboard is already accessible, why not use that? That is a valid point, guess time will tell on this one. On Feb 26, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Alex Hall wrote: Hello all, There has been much discussion about the new Braille Touch app lately. For anyone who missed it, this is an app coming out sometime this year that lets users type in braille on an iOS or Android device. Basically, you hold the device sideways, the home button to your right or left. You then place three fingers on either end of the screen and start typing. This beats the current braille entry app out there because (1) it will be free and (2) it lets you enter the character all at once, not a row at a time. Here is where it needs your help: Apple's developer guidelines and terms of service state that, basically, no app can add its own keyboard to the keyboards available in iOS. this means that there is no way to use the braille keyboard outside the app; no writing texts or emails with it, no using it to do a search, no nothing. Yes, you can use the app and then copy and paste, but if you just want to write a quick email, add a contact, or even edit a document, you can't take advantage of braille. Apple needs to know that we (blind and visually impaired users of iOS) want and need this functionality in iOS. Please take a couple minutes to send a message to accessibil...@apple.com. Tell them you want them to include Braille Touch's keyboard in iOS so that it can be used where ever you need to enter text, in place of the on-screen QWERTY keyboard that iOS currently forces you to use. Point out that this keyboard transforms the iOS line of products from PDAs with great accessibility into true braille devices. Most of all, tell them how important it is to you that this feature be included system-wide as soon as possible. Offer any further suggestions, testimonials, and anything else you think will help, but please take the time to send accessibil...@apple.com a message asking them to take this massive step into the future of accessibility. Thanks for your time and effort. Also, please send this request to anyone else who can help (other lists, friends or family who use iOS, braille instructors familiar with iOS... anyone). Remember that the more interest Apple sees in this, the more likely they are to take notice and do something about it. They have always been good at listening to feedback from their accessibility market, so let's take advantage of that to push for this braille keyboard. -- Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from GMail website) mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: text edit and braille margins
Hello John and Paul, Have you looked at the preferences for TextEdit? If you bring up the preferences from TextEdit using Command-comma, the first tab, for "New Document", lets you specify format as either plain text or rich text with radio buttons, then next lets you specify the window size width and height in characters and lines entered into text boxes. These set the default specifications applied when you open a new TextEdit window. Leave the radio button for "wrap to page" un-selected. Then press Command-W to close the preferences window. In order to output from TextEdit to your printer with the specified number of characters and lines per page, you want your window settings to be used for formatting, rather than trying to fit as many characters of the default font size onto a printed page. This is why we did not select the radio button for "wrap to page" and are instead using the "wrap to window" format, so that lines will break after the last word that appears in your TextEdit window. The final step is ensuring that when you print the document with Command-P, the line breaks set by your "wrap to window" format are preserved. The TextEdit Help describes that by default TextEdit prints contents within a document’s margins, regardless of whether you wrap text to the margins or to the window when you edit the contents. If you wrap text to the window when you edit and want the line breaks in a printed document to match those in the document window, after issuing Command-P to print, uncheck the box for “Rewrap contents to fit page” in the Print window. If this check box is not displayed, navigate to the "Show Details" button and press it (VO-Space), Then navigate past the paper size and orientation information. A "TextEdit" pop up button should be set, which you can select if this is not the case, and the check box entry for "Rewrap contents to fit page" should be listed. Make sure this box is unchecked before pressing the "Print" button. Additional details: 1. You can switch back and forth between "Wrap to Page" and "Wrap to Window" formatting modes with Command-Shift-W.If you are already in "Wrap to Window" mode, then when you check the "Format" menu on the menu bar (Control-F2 or VO-M to navigate to the Apple menu; press "F" to go to the "Format" menu and arrow down), you should see the option to change this (i.e., "Wrap to Page"). Similarly, if you are in "Wrap to Page" mode, the "Format" menu should display the option for "Wrap to Window". 2. You can check that there are only a few words per line in the window by using VO-Down arrow to navigate by lines. 3. Adjusting font size in the TextEdit window (with Command-hyphen to make letters smaller or Command-equals to make letters bigger) will change the number of characters per line. (I don't know why you would do this unless you were showing the document to a low-vision user and wanted to enlarge the displayed fonts. If you work with someone who needs large fonts, just select a large type font to begin with in the preferences for new windows in TextEdit) HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 27, 2012, at 4:47 AM, John Sanfilippo wrote: > Oo, I have much the same concern, so I'm looking forward to hearing more > about this. > > js > > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:42 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: > > Dear listers, > > I have an old braille printer that is not attached to my mac. To emboss > something, all I have to do is create simple plain text files with 27 lines > per page, and no more than 30 characters per line. Looking at how text edit > handles printing however, that works with inches or centimeters, and in > general, with a bitmap, the size of the paper you choose to print on. > Characters, lines and the whole page can be scaled. > > However, what I need for my braille printer is to ignore scaling, and tell > text edit to wrap to the next line after 30 characters max, and a page break > after 27 lines, no matter which font size etc I choose, because fonts etc are > not important in braille. > > Once a text document has been loaded in text edit, how do I reformat it, so > that it writes a carriage return line feed pair at the end of each line of 30 > characters most, and a page break, control l, at the end of 27 lines? Very > interested. I'm now doing it all by hand, but since I received 8 songs from > my choir all at once, I'm hoping to learn an easier way to reformat typed > text into something my braille printer can handle. That braille printer is on > windows, but I'd rather do all the preparations in text edit, than on a > windows machine. Is it possible to make text edit do what I need here? > > Paul. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more
Re: Dropbox ishu
Its not so hard. from the finder, press command shift H to go to your home folder. Interact with the browser area with your folders, and arrow down to dropbox/public. press VO shift M on the file and arrow down to the dropbox sub menu and pick what you want to do. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:19 AM, John Sanfilippo wrote: > You can find the dropbox contextual menu but I find it hard to describe doing > that. > I found it to be such a kludge that I simply resorted to memorizing my > drobpox public folder address: > > http://dl.dropbox/u/12345678/fileName.ext > > O yeah and make sure to name files without spaces to cut down having to type > %20 for each space. > > Smile, of course I occasionally make a typo so folks write back and complain > that they can't access the file. > > Also, be sure that you allow time for the transfer to take place after you've > copied files into the dropbox folder. > > hth, > > John S > > > . > On Feb 27, 2012, at 3:31 AM, Egbert wrote: > > Hi and good morning! > i try to add some material in my dropbox, but whatever i try, it does not > work There is also the fact that not every folder in my dropbox is detected > by my macbook. > In my IPhone are more folderds then on the dropbox on my Mac. > > In windows i had the possibilaty to send people a link when i wanted to share > some things, macwhise, i don't see that option. > Any tips or tricks? > Egbert . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille Touch: please help get Apple onboard
Although there is no harm in wanting something to be completely optional and available for someone to use, I am definitely not sold on it until it is out and proven that it really is at all something I like using. I don't think it makes a lot of sense either to be making a push for something to be incorporated into the system that none of us have really even had the chance to try because it is not available yet. One could just as easily prefer the TypeIn Braille input app as an optional keyboard. I have been playing with the TypeInBraille app actually and I see some possible advantage in having it as a tool. I agree with what I think someone said about that app that in noisy environments where you might want to do character input and you need to use the touch screen without being able to hear as much, it allows for what is arguably more predictable places to touch the screen without error to get what you need. I am going to continue to play with and make use of that at times to see how fast I am able to get with it. I really do not mind the on screen keyboard as long as I can hear the feedback from it and as long as it is not an instance where there is lag in its feedback. Where more speed is needed I have always been happy with bluetooth keyboard or dictation options. More options are always good. On 2/27/12, Chris Blouch wrote: > Wanted answer the assertion of Android being more flexible. While anyone > could add a different keyboard to Android, I'm not clear how that would > get universally baked in so that anyone pickup an Android phone would > get this option. It's the same problem that if you want it baked into > Android you would have to get Google to do it. Of course you could argue > whether Apple or Google is more receptive to making this addition but > it's still something that has to be done by the platform owner. I think > what we don't want is some kind of extra thing you have to know about, > download and install. > > CB > > On 2/26/12 5:58 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> Here is one reason among many why android is much more flexible, adding >> this functionality will not have any restrictions. Yes, Apple does not >> allow adding other keyboards, or input methods as they might be called. >> The thing is, if Apple allows this one, other developers will want to do >> the same thing. That may not be a bad thing, alternative keyboards may be >> a good thing, but I would not count on Apple changing their policy on this >> one. Also their thought could be, the built in on screen keyboard is >> already accessible, why not use that? That is a valid point, guess time >> will tell on this one. >> On Feb 26, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >> >>> Hello all, >>> There has been much discussion about the new Braille Touch app lately. >>> For anyone who missed it, this is an app coming out sometime this year >>> that lets users type in braille on an iOS or Android device. >>> Basically, you hold the device sideways, the home button to your right >>> or left. You then place three fingers on either end of the screen and >>> start typing. This beats the current braille entry app out there >>> because (1) it will be free and (2) it lets you enter the character >>> all at once, not a row at a time. >>> >>> Here is where it needs your help: Apple's developer guidelines and >>> terms of service state that, basically, no app can add its own >>> keyboard to the keyboards available in iOS. this means that there is >>> no way to use the braille keyboard outside the app; no writing texts >>> or emails with it, no using it to do a search, no nothing. Yes, you >>> can use the app and then copy and paste, but if you just want to write >>> a quick email, add a contact, or even edit a document, you can't take >>> advantage of braille. Apple needs to know that we (blind and visually >>> impaired users of iOS) want and need this functionality in iOS. Please >>> take a couple minutes to send a message to accessibil...@apple.com. >>> Tell them you want them to include Braille Touch's keyboard in iOS so >>> that it can be used where ever you need to enter text, in place of the >>> on-screen QWERTY keyboard that iOS currently forces you to use. Point >>> out that this keyboard transforms the iOS line of products from PDAs >>> with great accessibility into true braille devices. Most of all, tell >>> them how important it is to you that this feature be included >>> system-wide as soon as possible. Offer any further suggestions, >>> testimonials, and anything else you think will help, but please take >>> the time to send accessibil...@apple.com a message asking them to take >>> this massive step into the future of accessibility. Thanks for your >>> time and effort. Also, please send this request to anyone else who can >>> help (other lists, friends or family who use iOS, braille instructors >>> familiar with iOS... anyone). Remember that the more interest Apple >>> sees in this, the more likely they are to take notice and do someth
Re: text edit and braille margins
Hi Chris, I agree that this stuff is easy to do in Terminal, but a lot of people don't feel comfortable with Terminal and the command line. Besides, this still doesn't address getting this printed out, so you'd have to add the pipe to a selected printer. It's actually not hard to do what they want within TextEdit, where you can set the default window size in characters and lines for plain text in preferences, then print according to the window layout instead of the page margins, as I outlined in a separate post. Cheers, Esther On Feb 27, 2012, at 6:04 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > This is a perfect example of the kind of stuff you can do in the unix shell > of terminal. Save a text file somewhere handy like your desktop. I called > mine test.txt. Then open terminal and cd to wherever you have the file. So > for me I did > > cd ~/Desktop > > then use the fold command which breaks text files into fixed length lines > like this: > > fold -w30 -s test.txt > > The -s parameter says to break lines on spaces. If you don't mind it breaking > in the middle of a word you can leave that out. If you someday splurge on a > 40 cell display just change the 30 to a 40. That at least gets you partway > there. The shell has the idea of a pipe written as "|" where the output of > one command becomes the input to the next. So we can pipe the output from > fold to the input of the "pr" command which lets us insert page breaks like > this: > > fold -w30 -s test.txt | pr -tF -l27 > > the pr command normally adds headers and such to each page which we suppress > with the -t option. The F option says to output real pagrebreaks rather than > a bunch of extra newlines. The L parameter, as you can guess, is how many > lines before a pagebreak. > > To learn more about the fold or pr commands just type "man" followed by the > command to get more details from the manual pages. man man tells you about > the manual itself. Of course you probably want to write all this good stuff > back out to a file. To do that we want to redirect the output to a file > instead of the terminal. To do that we add a redirect using the ">" and then > a filename to the end of the recipe like this: > > fold -w30 -s test.txt | pr -tF -l27 > fixed.txt > > and you should find a fixed.txt file on your desktop all nicely formatted. > Welcome to the dark underbelly of OSX where great power and capability lie, > if you can just find the right man page :) > > CB > > On 2/27/12 6:47 AM, John Sanfilippo wrote: >> Oo, I have much the same concern, so I'm looking forward to hearing more >> about this. >> >> js >> >> >> On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:42 AM, Paul Erkens wrote: >> >> Dear listers, >> >> I have an old braille printer that is not attached to my mac. To emboss >> something, all I have to do is create simple plain text files with 27 lines >> per page, and no more than 30 characters per line. Looking at how text edit >> handles printing however, that works with inches or centimeters, and in >> general, with a bitmap, the size of the paper you choose to print on. >> Characters, lines and the whole page can be scaled. >> >> However, what I need for my braille printer is to ignore scaling, and tell >> text edit to wrap to the next line after 30 characters max, and a page break >> after 27 lines, no matter which font size etc I choose, because fonts etc >> are not important in braille. >> >> Once a text document has been loaded in text edit, how do I reformat it, so >> that it writes a carriage return line feed pair at the end of each line of >> 30 characters most, and a page break, control l, at the end of 27 lines? >> Very interested. I'm now doing it all by hand, but since I received 8 songs >> from my choir all at once, I'm hoping to learn an easier way to reformat >> typed text into something my braille printer can handle. That braille >> printer is on windows, but I'd rather do all the preparations in text edit, >> than on a windows machine. Is it possible to make text edit do what I need >> here? >> >> Paul. >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Dropbox ishu
Hi John, Instead of memorizing your dropbox public folder address, why don't you take advantage of Lion's text expansion capability and define a shortcut for the prefix string giving your dropbox public folder address? For example, you could set a character string named "dbpf" to expand to "http://dl.dropbox/u/12345678/"; whenever you typed it in Mail or TextEdit. Since Michael just pointed Ezzie to a YouTube video with instructions on how to do this yesterday, in order to set a string that gets expanded for signatures, I can just paste in his text giving the link: Ok here is the link. Let me know if you need me to clarify anything. It should be clear enough if my memory hasn't failed me. Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKxWbBuDSSI Very briefly, you go to the System Preferences > Language & Text menu and select the "Text" tab. Then you press the "Add" button to enter a new entry to the "Substitutions" table, and type in the string you want expanded (e.g., "dbpf" in the above example), and the replacement string (e.g."http://dl.dropbox/u/12345678/";). Then, in the applications that support such expansion substitution, like Mail and TextEdit, you navigate to the "Edit" menu on the menu bar, and arrow down to the "Substitutions" menu, then right arrow to the submenu and navigate to "Substitutions" to check this option. That should save you some typing and memorization. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Feb 27, 2012, at 2:19 AM, John Sanfilippo wrote: > You can find the dropbox contextual menu but I find it hard to describe doing > that. > I found it to be such a kludge that I simply resorted to memorizing my > drobpox public folder address: > > http://dl.dropbox/u/12345678/fileName.ext > > O yeah and make sure to name files without spaces to cut down having to type > %20 for each space. > > Smile, of course I occasionally make a typo so folks write back and complain > that they can't access the file. > > Also, be sure that you allow time for the transfer to take place after you've > copied files into the dropbox folder. > > hth, > > John S > > > . > On Feb 27, 2012, at 3:31 AM, Egbert wrote: > > Hi and good morning! > i try to add some material in my dropbox, but whatever i try, it does not > work There is also the fact that not every folder in my dropbox is detected > by my macbook. > In my IPhone are more folderds then on the dropbox on my Mac. > > In windows i had the possibilaty to send people a link when i wanted to share > some things, macwhise, i don't see that option. > Any tips or tricks? > Egbert . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Ical question
Thanks for this tip. I notice that working pretty well except that as i command-right-arrow through dates, if there is an event on a particular date, voiceover doesn't tell me that fact unless i move back to the events list. It would be nice if there were some indication. I wonder if there is some voiceover setting or other trick that could be employed to get this info spoken. Marc On Feb 27, 2012, at 6:32 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Hi: > Set your calendar to view by day, that way you can see your events. I believe > there is a table to the left of the calendar that has a list events. > On Feb 26, 2012, at 10:10 PM, Marc Sutton wrote: > >> Hi Kawal, >> No problem. I suspected you might be referring to the addressbook. It seems >> like there is a lot of interacting necessary in order to browse a calendar. >> I will see if the iphone app is more efficient. >> >> On Feb 26, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >> >>> Oh Mark, >>> >>> I just realise that I have been talking about the address book. Please >>> forgive me for that as I must have been very tired when I wrote that first >>> message and I had been in my address book yesterday and thought it was the >>> calendar for no good reason. >>> >>> But yes, interact with the entries on your calendar and you need to >>> interact again with the information once you find an entry that you want to >>> read. I normally use the calendar on my I phone as it is much easier than >>> my Mac although I have entered dates and events using my Mac Book Pro and >>> when putting in new events, I normally do command N for new, then vo right >>> tro where the title and location is to go, and so on until the fields are >>> all filled in, once I want to go to a particular entry, stop interacting, >>> then vo right until I get to the scroll area, interact twice to read the >>> information. >>> >>> Again please accept my apology. >>> >>> Kawal. >>> >>> On 26 Feb 2012, at 07:22 PM, Marc Sutton wrote: >>> Hi Kawal, I don't find any tables in ical. I am just wondering what you mean vy contacts. Do you mean events? I am using ical under lion and there are dates listed but not in any table view. Thanks. Marc On Feb 25, 2012, at 11:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > I found that choice by accident when doing VO right arrow once I got past > the contacts table (not in the view menu) either. There is a list view > or a table group, it's radio buttons. Just choose the table group. I > had formatted my Mac prior to this so I don't know if that was the > default. > > Kawal. > > On 26 Feb 2012, at 03:24 AM, Marc Sutton wrote: > >> Hi Kiwal, >> I am wondering how you choose the table view in ical. There is no menu >> choice for this under view. Thanks. >> Marc >> >> On Feb 25, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >> >>> Hello Mark. >>> >>> I suggest if you are using the Ical on your mac, make sure your >>> contacts are in table view then when you get to what entry you want to >>> hear, stop interacting with that entry, go to the scroll area and >>> interact twice and vo right arrow through that entry. That is how I do >>> it. You can also install a wigit or you have a wigit which you will >>> find (forget where it is) as I've not used them yet, and there you can >>> view your calendar entries. >>> >>> Please someone correct me if there is a better way to use the calendar. >>> >>> Kawal. >>> >>> On 25 Feb 2012, at 09:34 PM, Marc Sutton wrote: >>> Hello, I am just starting to explore the Ical program. I have it set to week view. I added some entries. When I move through the week using vo, i will hear about one event on a particular day. Does anyone know how to hear the time of that event and even hear all the events for that day spoken at once. I am trying to figure out how to quickly and efficiently use the calendar. This would be one feature that could make that possible--the ability to quickly scan events scheduled for the future. Any tips? Thanks. Marc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: apple tv question:
Can you watch regular network TV with the Apple v or do you have to buy everything you watch? I have never seen one so I don't know what the difference is between that and cable. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Feb 26, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Chenelle Hancock wrote: > hi all, > i just only purchased an apple tv about three months ago. furthermore, i > did not have any problems with setting it up. i i have an h.d.l.c..d tv > thus all i had to do is to get another h.d.m.i. caple and connect it to the > back of the apple tv and then hook the other piece to the back of the tv. > then i pressed the lower right button on the small slender remote control > that comes with the apple tv three times in order to turn on voice over. > afterwards, i had my aunt put in the internet code and password in order > to hook up to netflix and the internet etc.. afterwards, it was a total > breeze for me to work. i have never regretted purchasing the apple tv at > all either. i had purchased movies, and tv shows from just using my apple > tv and i really do enjoy it better then watching cable for the most part. > the only piece of apple equipment that i do not have in my hands is an > i-pad 3 and that does not come out until march,7/12. but i will wait to get > it until later on in the summer etc.. > take care everyone sincerely, chenelle. > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Dropbox ishu
Hi, that may be all possible, but why so f… difficult? Dropbox and windows have a far more better relation. I think its a bad deal how dropbox and apple work now, if we talk about the mac. Egbert Op 27 feb. 2012, om 20:10 heeft Esther het volgende geschreven: > Hi John, > > Instead of memorizing your dropbox public folder address, why don't you take > advantage of Lion's text expansion capability and define a shortcut for the > prefix string giving your dropbox public folder address? For example, you > could set a character string named "dbpf" to expand to > "http://dl.dropbox/u/12345678/"; whenever you typed it in Mail or TextEdit. > > Since Michael just pointed Ezzie to a YouTube video with instructions on how > to do this yesterday, in order to set a string that gets expanded for > signatures, I can just paste in his text giving the link: > > Ok here is the link. Let me know if you need me to clarify anything. It > should be clear enough if my memory hasn't failed me. Enjoy! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKxWbBuDSSI > > > Very briefly, you go to the System Preferences > Language & Text menu and > select the "Text" tab. Then you press the "Add" button to enter a new entry > to the "Substitutions" table, and type in the string you want expanded (e.g., > "dbpf" in the above example), and the replacement string > (e.g."http://dl.dropbox/u/12345678/";). > > Then, in the applications that support such expansion substitution, like Mail > and TextEdit, you navigate to the "Edit" menu on the menu bar, and arrow down > to the "Substitutions" menu, then right arrow to the submenu and navigate to > "Substitutions" to check this option. > > That should save you some typing and memorization. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 2:19 AM, John Sanfilippo wrote: > >> You can find the dropbox contextual menu but I find it hard to describe >> doing that. >> I found it to be such a kludge that I simply resorted to memorizing my >> drobpox public folder address: >> >> http://dl.dropbox/u/12345678/fileName.ext >> >> O yeah and make sure to name files without spaces to cut down having to type >> %20 for each space. >> >> Smile, of course I occasionally make a typo so folks write back and complain >> that they can't access the file. >> >> Also, be sure that you allow time for the transfer to take place after >> you've copied files into the dropbox folder. >> >> hth, >> >> John S >> >> >> . >> On Feb 27, 2012, at 3:31 AM, Egbert wrote: >> >> Hi and good morning! >> i try to add some material in my dropbox, but whatever i try, it does not >> work There is also the fact that not every folder in my dropbox is detected >> by my macbook. >> In my IPhone are more folderds then on the dropbox on my Mac. >> >> In windows i had the possibilaty to send people a link when i wanted to >> share some things, macwhise, i don't see that option. >> Any tips or tricks? >> Egbert . >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: How do I select all on the I pone?
Thanks. I'll give that a try. Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks On Feb 26, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Gigi wrote: > Hi Jenny > I have another suggestion about how to speed up the selecting of messages on > your iPhone. If you go into settings, and then go to mail can't remember > exactly where it is an on settings you can find deselect by conversation. > That way you can go into edit when you bring up your inbox, and select the > conversations that you don't wish to read this will really speed up the > selecting process. > Regards > Gigi > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 26, 2012, at 7:57 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: > >> This message cannot be displayed because of the way it is formatted. Ask the >> sender to send it again using a different format or email program. text/plain > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Ical question
Hi Anne, Thanks for your ical tips. Do you know of a quick way to get to the grid of dates? Once in add event mode things get a little unpredictable. Thanks. Marc On Feb 27, 2012, at 12:59 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Marc, > > To create a new event in iCal, press Cmd-n then type something like: "Dental > appointment on Friday March 2nd at 3:30 pm", then press Return. iCal will > format the event for you and you can add bits or change things by navigating > right to the scroll area, where you interact. Here you'll find all the > possible fields, including the menu for selecting the appropriate calendar. > > To go to a particular date, press Cmd-Shift-t and start typing the date you > want. iCal will autofill the field and you can adjust it to what you want, > then press Return. > > To look at the week's events, interact with the grid. Navigate using the VO > keys and you'll hear something like Monday 2 events. Tuesday list. Where it > just says List, there are no events. To look at the events on a particular > day, interact with the list. > > HTH, > > Anne > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
