date:20111006

Hi,

Don't you think thats a bit presumptuous?

Ricardo Walker
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Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
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On Oct 6, 2011, at 6:08 AM, Cheree Heppe wrote:

> Cheree Heppe here:
> 
> This said most of what I think regarding the impact of Steve Jobs on the 
> Apple and blind user universes.
> 
> Thank you for articulating your thoughts so eloquently.
> 
> It may be time to write Apple's new head to share some of this directly as a 
> group, in case somebody thinks that accessibility is now situational.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Cheree Heppe
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 05/10/2011, at 23:07, Austin Seraphin  wrote:
> 
>> I figured I should write something.
>> 
>> http://behindthecurtain.us/2011/10/05/the-death-of-steve-jobs/
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Re: a change in the way Audible.com samples are handled?

2011-10-06 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu

At least you can hear them now as I complained to AUDIBLE and I hope the UK 
site reflects the change.

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> Say,
> 
> Anybody here noticed what appears to be a major recoding in the way 
> audible.com samples are handled?  Now, it looks like that when you go to:
> 
> www.audible.com
> 
> and find a sample, the link is coded so that Voice Over can see and use it.  
> IF you have click to Flash installed, you will need to press return to play 
> the sample.  IF not, just press VO+space to hear a sample.  You can only 
> pause and play but not move forward and backward within a sample.  Anybody 
> else noticed that?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
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Re: a change in the way Audible.com samples are handled?

2011-10-06 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu

How do I get click to flash? as I tried installing flash but it didn't work and 
may be I was trying to get it from Adobe.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Hi,
> 
> Its been this way for me for about a year now with click to flash installed.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:28 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> Say,
>> 
>> Anybody here noticed what appears to be a major recoding in the way 
>> audible.com samples are handled?  Now, it looks like that when you go to:
>> 
>> www.audible.com
>> 
>> and find a sample, the link is coded so that Voice Over can see and use it.  
>> IF you have click to Flash installed, you will need to press return to play 
>> the sample.  IF not, just press VO+space to hear a sample.  You can only 
>> pause and play but not move forward and backward within a sample.  Anybody 
>> else noticed that?
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Steve Jobs has died!!

2011-10-06 Thread Ronald van Rhijn

Hello all,
It's a sad day, Steve past away much much too young. He brought us so many 
great things.
does anybody know if he was personally responsible for the accessibility 
features?  
Thanks Steve, you will never be forgotten!
regards,
Ronald

Op 6 okt. 2011, om 05:37 heeft Teresa Cochran het volgende geschreven:

> I regret that I didn't write him a letter about how much his work has changed 
> my life. Thanks, Steve. R.I.P.
> 
> Teresa
> On Oct 5, 2011, at 6:01 PM, Allison Mervis wrote:
> 
>> How sad, although unfortunately given his recent resignation from Apple, not 
>> entirely unexpected. I wonder if there will be any kind of broadcast 
>> memorial service.
>> Allison
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Doremus
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 4:53 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Steve Jobs has died!!
>> 
>> I thought that this was a really bad joke 'till I tuned to CNN
>> The man and his little machines changed our world, the Mac world will miss 
>> him. 
>> 
>> Aloha, 
>> 
>> Charlie
>> 
>> Our new book "YOU MIGHT BE A MORON" is on sale at www.giantdolphin.com click 
>> the off the bookshelf link 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 1:30 PM, "Allison Mervis"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, you can still get the app on the 3GS or 4,  but from what I gather, it 
>>> doesn't do as many things as the built-in voice assistant on the 4S.
>>> Allison
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:30 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone 4s and Siri
>>> 
>>> OK, I'm confused now -- does this mean that those with iPhone 3GS's and 4's 
>>> can still get the sIRI app?
>>> Christine
>>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 4:27 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The original Siri iPhone App, before Apple bought them, ran on iPhone 3GS 
>>> or better:
>>> 
>>> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LwmUTA-pMRwJ:itunes.apple.com/us/app/siri-assistant/id351778157%3Fmt%3D8+siri+personal+assistant+app&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari
>>> 
>>> They were also going to make Android and Blackberry versions. Dunno if they 
>>> ever did.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 10/5/11 4:06 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>>> the only thing i read that sounded definite is that the seri digital 
>>> assistant will only be available on the iphone 4's. take care, max  
>>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Iz this just a feature of the IPhone 4S? or is it an IOS thing? Hmmm
>>> Matt
>>> Sent from my macbook pro
>>> 
>>> On 2011-10-05, at 1:38 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> yes, but the seri feature is only available if you have internet access; so 
>>> the key to this feature's useability will be the cost of data plans.  I'm 
>>> with sprint.  currently, the offer a completely unlimited plan, but the 
>>> roomer sites are all saying its just a matter of time before they do away 
>>> with that or cap it or exclude the iphone from it.  anyone have any hard 
>>> info on that question?  thanks, max
>>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So in case you haven't already found this, Apple released a video of 
>>> several use cases of people interacting with their phones purly through 
>>> speech.
 
 http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/siri.html
 
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Re: Questions

2011-10-06 Thread David Eagle

I'm not seeing this with my set up. On my Macbook Pro using Lion it
works fine. I plug it in to the USB port, press a cursor routing
button and it works fine. well at least it works in terms of reading
braille; I have had no joy writing with it. The cursor wheels also
work fine for me. Go into the voiceOver utility, to the braille
category, then in braille displays have a look at the settings.
Perhaps change the primary braille display setting to, use all braille
displays. I haven't got my Mac with me where I am at the moment, so I
can't be more specific.

Let me know how you get on.

On 05/10/2011, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> You might want to use it with Bluetooth only. There is a bug that doesn't
> allow it to utilize the USB properly. I can get the USB to work, but only
> after the display has been idle for about fifteen minutes. Also, in USB
> mode, the whiz wheels do not function.
>
> HTH,
> Teresa
> On Oct 5, 2011, at 12:47 PM, David Eagle wrote:
>
>> When you plug it in it should automatically show something on the
>> display. Mine said Battery Charging. To get it to show you what's
>> appearing on your computer though, press one of the cursor routing
>> buttons. The two rows above your display. This works fine for me.
>>
>> On 05/10/2011, Becky Knaub  wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> Do Focus 40 Blue braille displays work with the MAC?
>>> If they do as I think they do Could anyone tell me how to make My MBP
>>> detect
>>> the display when its plugged in the USB port? It won't detect the display
>>> either way ad I have tried everything I can think of.
>>> Since I really need the display to work so I can edit my papers for
>>> school I
>>> would appreciate if anyone could help.
>>>
>>> Second Is it possible to play ogg files on the mac and if so what version
>>> of
>>> the software would I need to get for an MBP with Lion on it?
>>>
>>> Thanks ,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Becky
>>>
>>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:41 AM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
>>>
  Today's Topic Summary
 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics

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 THank you, Esther [1 Update]
 The continuing adventures of David eagle and his Apple Mac computer.
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 update on searching mailbox for specific messages in lion [1 Update]
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 Topic: Selecting in safari
 Matt Dierckens  Oct 05 08:06AM -0400 ^

 Hey all.
 I have important information on a facebook message and I need to select
 everything from it. For some reason however, this isn't seeming possible
 and I'm frustrated about it. If anyone could give me a hand with this
 please let me know. Thanks.

 Matt
 Sent from my macbook pro

 Alex Hall  Oct 05 08:24AM -0400 ^

 The way I've found to do it is:
 1. Interact with the text and move to the start of the desired
 selection.
 2. Hit vo-enter.
 3. Use normal commands to move from the start to the end of the
 selection.
 4. Hit vo-enter again, then cmd-c to copy.

 There's probably an easier way, but that is all I could find on Google
 when I tried selecting the other day.

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 Matt Dierckens  Oct 05 08:33AM -0400 ^

 Hi Alex, I just tried, and VO didn't speak anything when I was selecting
 things. Then I hit command C and it didn't work. Not sure why though.
 Thanks for the response.

 Matt
 Sent from my macbook pro

 On 2011-10-05, at 8:24 AM, Alex Hall wrote:

 Alex Hall  Oct 05 08:35AM -0400 ^

 Did you interact with the text? I also got no speech and nothing
 selected, but it was because I hadn't interacted with what I wanted to
 copy.

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 Matt Dierckens  Oct 05 08:39AM -0400 ^

 Yep, interacted with the text, it said selecting, then I selected what I
 wanted to, and hit VO enter and hit command c and it dinged at me.
 Matt
 Sent from my macbook pro

 On 2011-10-05, at 8:35 AM, Alex Hall wrote:

 Alex Hall  Oct 05 08:44AM -0400 ^

 Once you interact, press vo-enter before selecting, then use normal
 navigation (not holding down shift) to move to the end and hit
 vo-enter again.

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Re: My Tribute to Steve Jobs

2011-10-06 Thread Cheree Heppe

Cheree Heppe here:

What, specifically, is supposed to be presumptuous?

The dog guide trainers tell us that praise is good for the soul.


Regards,
Cheree Heppe



Sent from my iPhone

On 06/10/2011, at 4:21, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Don't you think thats a bit presumptuous?
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Oct 6, 2011, at 6:08 AM, Cheree Heppe wrote:
> 
>> Cheree Heppe here:
>> 
>> This said most of what I think regarding the impact of Steve Jobs on the 
>> Apple and blind user universes.
>> 
>> Thank you for articulating your thoughts so eloquently.
>> 
>> It may be time to write Apple's new head to share some of this directly as a 
>> group, in case somebody thinks that accessibility is now situational.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Cheree Heppe
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 05/10/2011, at 23:07, Austin Seraphin  wrote:
>> 
>>> I figured I should write something.
>>> 
>>> http://behindthecurtain.us/2011/10/05/the-death-of-steve-jobs/
>>> 
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An Idiot's guide to creating playlists in iTunes

2011-10-06 Thread Martin Brown

Everyone,

 

I would like to create playlists so that I might put specific music into
them in order to use my iPod Touch.  I have a Mac, but I just cannot get to
grips with how to use iTunes and copy music into it from an external drive
in order to make playlists.

 

Please, please, please, could someone give me an idiot's step-by-step guide
on how to do this?

 

Many thanks.

 

Martin

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Re: My Tribute to Steve Jobs

2011-10-06 Thread Teresa Cochran

Thanks, Austin. That's a wonderful piece of writing. I shared it on my Facebook.

Teresa
On Oct 5, 2011, at 11:07 PM, Austin Seraphin wrote:

> I figured I should write something.
> 
> http://behindthecurtain.us/2011/10/05/the-death-of-steve-jobs/
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RE: An Idiot's guide to creating playlists in iTunes

2011-10-06 Thread Sarah May

 

Hi Martin,

 

I need an idiot's guide as well.  SO you aren't alone.

 

Sarah

 

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Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 7:23 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: An Idiot's guide to creating playlists in iTunes

 

Everyone,

 

I would like to create playlists so that I might put specific music into
them in order to use my iPod Touch.  I have a Mac, but I just cannot get to
grips with how to use iTunes and copy music into it from an external drive
in order to make playlists.

 

Please, please, please, could someone give me an idiot's step-by-step guide
on how to do this?

 

Many thanks.

 

Martin

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Re: Selecting in safari

2011-10-06 Thread Chuck Reichel


Hi Matthew,
Are you talking about selecting in Snow Leopard or Lion?


On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:


Hi.
According to the keyboard help, VO shift A only slects it. However,  
I've never tried it before.


On 2011-10-05, at 8:55 AM, Alex Hall wrote:

What about vo-shift-a? I seem to recall that copying the chunk of  
text

last spoken, not just the phrase.

On 10/5/11, Matthew Campbell  wrote:

Hey Matt.
One thing that you might want to try is this.
First, get VO to where the text is you want to copy
Then, press VO shift C to copy the last phrase to the clipboard.
Finally, go to text edit or where ever and paste
Just keep doing that over and over until you have all that you  
want. It's

kind of annoying way to do it but...
One thing to keep in mind is that when VO reads text in safari,  
it's reading

paragraph by paragraph.
HTH.

On 2011-10-05, at 8:33 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote:

Hi Alex, I just tried, and VO didn't speak anything when I was  
selecting
things. Then I hit command C and it didn't work. Not sure why  
though.

Thanks for the response.

Matt
Sent from my macbook pro

On 2011-10-05, at 8:24 AM, Alex Hall wrote:


The way I've found to do it is:
1. Interact with the text and move to the start of the desired  
selection.

2. Hit vo-enter.
3. Use normal commands to move from the start to the end of the
selection.
4. Hit vo-enter again, then cmd-c to copy.

There's probably an easier way, but that is all I could find on  
Google

when I tried selecting the other day.

On 10/5/11, Matt Dierckens  wrote:

Hey all.
I have important information on a facebook message and I need  
to select
everything from it. For some reason however, this isn't seeming  
possible

and
I'm frustrated about it. If anyone could give me a hand with  
this please

let
me know. Thanks.

Matt
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Re: Selecting in safari

2011-10-06 Thread Matthew Campbell

Both.
That command hasn't changed.

On 2011-10-06, at 10:17 AM, Chuck Reichel wrote:

> Hi Matthew,
> Are you talking about selecting in Snow Leopard or Lion?
> 
> 
> On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> According to the keyboard help, VO shift A only slects it. However, I've 
>> never tried it before.
>> 
>> On 2011-10-05, at 8:55 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> 
>>> What about vo-shift-a? I seem to recall that copying the chunk of text
>>> last spoken, not just the phrase.
>>> 
>>> On 10/5/11, Matthew Campbell  wrote:
 Hey Matt.
 One thing that you might want to try is this.
 First, get VO to where the text is you want to copy
 Then, press VO shift C to copy the last phrase to the clipboard.
 Finally, go to text edit or where ever and paste
 Just keep doing that over and over until you have all that you want. It's
 kind of annoying way to do it but...
 One thing to keep in mind is that when VO reads text in safari, it's 
 reading
 paragraph by paragraph.
 HTH.
 
 On 2011-10-05, at 8:33 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
 
> Hi Alex, I just tried, and VO didn't speak anything when I was selecting
> things. Then I hit command C and it didn't work. Not sure why though.
> Thanks for the response.
> 
> Matt
> Sent from my macbook pro
> 
> On 2011-10-05, at 8:24 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
> 
>> The way I've found to do it is:
>> 1. Interact with the text and move to the start of the desired selection.
>> 2. Hit vo-enter.
>> 3. Use normal commands to move from the start to the end of the
>> selection.
>> 4. Hit vo-enter again, then cmd-c to copy.
>> 
>> There's probably an easier way, but that is all I could find on Google
>> when I tried selecting the other day.
>> 
>> On 10/5/11, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
>>> Hey all.
>>> I have important information on a facebook message and I need to select
>>> everything from it. For some reason however, this isn't seeming possible
>>> and
>>> I'm frustrated about it. If anyone could give me a hand with this please
>>> let
>>> me know. Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Matt
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sendspace wizard for Mac

2011-10-06 Thread Matthew Campbell

Hi everyone.
I'm interested in signing up for sendspace but I have a question.
Have any of you used the sendspace wizard for mac? Was or is it accessible with 
VoiceOver?
If not, my search for an accessible dropBox alternative continues.
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Re: iPhone 4s and Siri

Really? I hunted for it but couldn't find it. Is it still called Siri?
Closest I could find was Vlingo

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vlingo-voice-app/id297214191?mt=8

On 10/5/11 7:30 PM, Allison Mervis wrote:

Yes, you can still get the app on the 3GS or 4, but from what I
gather, it doesn't do as many things as the built-in voice assistant
on the 4S.

Allison

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OK, I'm confused now -- does this mean that those with iPhone 3GS's
and 4's can still get the sIRI app?

Christine

On Oct 5, 2011, at 4:27 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

The original Siri iPhone App, before Apple bought them, ran on iPhone
3GS or better:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LwmUTA-pMRwJ:itunes.apple.com/us/app/siri-assistant/id351778157%3Fmt%3D8+siri+personal+assistant+app&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari

They were also going to make Android and Blackberry versions. Dunno if
they ever did.

On 10/5/11 4:06 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:

the only thing i read that sounded definite is that the seri digital
assistant will only be available on the iphone 4's. take care, max

On Oct 5, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote:

Iz this just a feature of the IPhone 4S? or is it an IOS thing? Hmmm

Matt

Sent from my macbook pro

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yes, but the seri feature is only available if you have internet
access; so the key to this feature's useability will be the cost of
data plans. I'm with sprint. currently, the offer a completely
unlimited plan, but the roomer sites are all saying its just a matter
of time before they do away with that or cap it or exclude the iphone
from it. anyone have any hard info on that question? thanks, max

On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

So in case you haven't already found this, Apple released a video of
several use cases of people interacting with their phones purly
through speech.

http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/siri.html

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Re: iPhone 4s and Siri

2011-10-06 Thread Aser Tolentino

The Siriapp was pulled. If you already have it, you can enjoy continued 
functionality until its servers are shut down October 15.

Respectfully,
Aser Tolentino, Esq.
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Sent from my iPhone

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> Really? I hunted for it but couldn't find it. Is it still called Siri? 
> Closest I could find was Vlingo
> 
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vlingo-voice-app/id297214191?mt=8
> 
> CB
> 
> On 10/5/11 7:30 PM, Allison Mervis wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, you can still get the app on the 3GS or 4,  but from what I gather, it 
>> doesn't do as many things as the built-in voice assistant on the 4S.
>> Allison
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:30 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone 4s and Siri
>>  
>> OK, I'm confused now -- does this mean that those with iPhone 3GS's and 4's 
>> can still get the sIRI app?
>> Christine
>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 4:27 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> The original Siri iPhone App, before Apple bought them, ran on iPhone 3GS or 
>> better:
>> 
>> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LwmUTA-pMRwJ:itunes.apple.com/us/app/siri-assistant/id351778157%3Fmt%3D8+siri+personal+assistant+app&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari
>> 
>> They were also going to make Android and Blackberry versions. Dunno if they 
>> ever did.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 10/5/11 4:06 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>> the only thing i read that sounded definite is that the seri digital 
>> assistant will only be available on the iphone 4's. take care, max  
>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Iz this just a feature of the IPhone 4S? or is it an IOS thing? Hmmm
>> Matt
>> Sent from my macbook pro
>>  
>> On 2011-10-05, at 1:38 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> yes, but the seri feature is only available if you have internet access; so 
>> the key to this feature's useability will be the cost of data plans.  I'm 
>> with sprint.  currently, the offer a completely unlimited plan, but the 
>> roomer sites are all saying its just a matter of time before they do away 
>> with that or cap it or exclude the iphone from it.  anyone have any hard 
>> info on that question?  thanks, max
>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> So in case you haven't already found this, Apple released a video of several 
>> use cases of people interacting with their phones purly through speech.
>>>  
>> 
>>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/siri.html
>> 
>>>  
>> 
>>> CB
>> 
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Re: sendspace wizard for Mac

2011-10-06 Thread Matt Dierckens

I would like to know the same thing as I want to sign up for sendspace as well.
Matt
Sent from my macbook pro

On 2011-10-06, at 10:44 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:

> Hi everyone.
> I'm interested in signing up for sendspace but I have a question.
> Have any of you used the sendspace wizard for mac? Was or is it accessible 
> with VoiceOver?
> If not, my search for an accessible dropBox alternative continues.
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Re: Lion Growl no longer free

Yes, it's not a wallet breaker, but should you have to pay another $2 to 
make a free chat app accessible?


CB

On 10/5/11 9:12 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
If it's 2 bucks I'm gonna pay and be happy to have the service.  It's 
so useful that apple should just buy it and build it into the OS.



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On 2011-10-05, at 2:49 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

So I just had somebody ping me about upgrading to Lion and how they 
would need to update Growl but now it was $2 instead of free. This 
got me wondering. For many chat apps, or at least the ones I use 
often like Skype, AIM and Adium, Growl is the common way to get 
incoming messages read. If it's no longer a free solution for these 
otherwise free apps, should these chat apps now go back and start 
adding self-voicing to their incoming messages? I know AIM has this 
feature today but others got a bit of a pass because Growl could take 
care of it.


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Typing echo

2011-10-06 Thread Rahul Bajaj

Hi all,

 I use VoiceOver on my Mac.
 So, the problem is that VoiceOver doesn't read anything as I type.
I can read the entire sentence after I've finished typing, but it
doesn't read anything as I type.
In other words, the typing echo function of VoiceOver is not working.
I changed it to 'characters and words', but it's still not reading anything.
So, what should I do?
Please shed some light on this matter.

Cheers,
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Facebook and Twitter

2011-10-06 Thread Rahul Bajaj

Hi all,

Are there any good apps for using Facebook and Twitter with VoiceOver
on the Mac?
Please do let me know your views on this matter.

Cheers,
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Re: editing html code

Right, you can flip back and forth between the text editor and the 
browser. Save in the text editor, Command-Tab to Safari, Command-R to 
reload, check your work, command-tab back to the editor. Rinse and 
repeat. Other editors like SubEthaEdit have web preview windows in them 
so you just command-~ to it but I don't trust these previews and it's 
not that hard to flip between apps.


CB

On 10/5/11 7:04 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

in order to see the results of your markup, you'll have to open the HTML in 
Safari. As you edit your text file, save it also as an HTML file and open that 
in Safari. You could simply save these over the previous one so youjust have 
two files with the same name, one with a txt and one with an hTML extension.

HTH,
Teresa
On Oct 5, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:


HI,

Thanks for your answer. Could you outline the steps to take? I downloaded the 
html file. I opened it in textedit. Then I went to format and selected plane 
text. I saved and got a .txt file but still could not see the code.

w
On Oct 4, 2011, at 11:22 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:


Hi, Ioana,

I'd think TextEdit would work well for this. I used to use Notepad for this 
very same thing. I haven't tried this with TextEdit, but I'm sure it would 
work. Just be sure you save it as a text file and don't have any formatting in 
it. Then you could save another version as html and view it in Safari to check 
the results.

HTH,
Teresa
On Oct 4, 2011, at 6:05 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:


Hi all,
In windows I would sometimes use notepad to make simple additions to my news 
section of my web page.
I have downloaded the html file and was wondering what best to use to add more 
entries. I basically need to see the code exactly to replicate it for the new 
entries. Hope this explanation makes sense.

Thanks for your help,

Ioana

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Pottermore

2011-10-06 Thread Rahul Bajaj

Hi all,

Has anyone here tried using Pottermore with VoiceOver?
For me, it worked well for the first 4 chapters, but now I'm stuck.
So, do let me know if you've tried using the site with VoiceOver.

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Re: click to flash verses click to plug

Dunno if I would uninstall it. On pages that auto-play Flash because the 
page is a destination for some piece of content it might not matter that 
Flash is in-accessible. If you un-install Flash you will not be able to 
access such pages.


CB

On 10/2/11 5:55 AM, David Eagle wrote:

Thanks for the explanation. I will have to uninstall Adobe Flash from
my Mac, since it isn't achieving anything. HTML5 works brilliantly on
the Mac. If only more people were using it.

On 01/10/2011, Esther  wrote:

Hello David,

Access to button controls of flash-based content in browsers is not
accessible with VoiceOver, but you can play content that is flash based
(such as YouTube videos).  Note that support for playing Flash content no
longer comes as a default with Mac OS X distributions; you have to
separately download this.  The original ClickToFlash implementation was a
Safari Browser plug-in that prevented Flash content from automatically
loading.  This included annoying advertisements that would take up memory
resources. You could still load flash content if you added the current web
page to your white list (by pressing the Option key and Clicking with a
mouse or trackpad at the same time), or by navigating to the menu and adding
a site. Alternatively, you could enable Flash content to load and display on
the current page without adding to the white list by pressing
Command-Control-F.  The point of this was that you only loaded flash content
when you wanted it, and performance was much snappier since you weren't
using up resources for Flash content you didn't want -- like ads.

This later morphed into a Safari Extension option, and then to plug-ins of
various levels of refinement. With the advent of HTML5, which is how YouTube
movies play on iOS devices -- not using Flash -- the ClickToFlash plug-ins
enabled substitution of accessible, HTML5 versions of Flash content on web
pages that offer this option.  (The plug-in can do some other things, too,
but this is what Ray wants in order to gain control of the Sample playing
controls on the Audible site.)

Basically, the current information for both the ClickToPlugin and the
ClickToFlash Safari extensions may be found here:
http://hoyois.github.com/safariextensions/clicktoplugin/

More detailed information about setup depends on your operating system.
Here's a link to one of Justin's older posts about setting up the plugin:
• Re: Flash to HTML5; Can it be done?
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg48562.html

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Oct 1, 2011, at 10:49, David Eagle wrote:


I thought FLASH was completely inaccessible with Voice Over?

On 01/10/2011, Justin Ekis  wrote:

Hi ray,

I prefer ClickToPlugin, since it does everything that ClickToFlash does
and
more. If it's audible you are concerned about, you will have exactly the
same experience with either one, since audible uses flash. The benefit of
ClickToPlugin is that it also helps with sites that have embedded
silverlight or windows media content. The setup and usage are the same
for
both, and I think I've previously posted tips for getting the best
results.

Hope this helps.

Justin

On Oct 1, 2011, at 7:50 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

Okay.  I really want to know this.  For those of y'all who have tried
both
click to flash and click to plug under Lion, which do y'all prefer and
why?
Very particularly when it comes to Audible.com samles and eas of set up
and
use.

thanks.


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Re: First-Time Mac Owner

Didn't notice any followups to this so I thought I'd try to answer one 
or two.


2 - If you just ordered your machine it should ship with Lion which is 
OSX 10.7. On OSX there is a persistent menu bar across the top of the 
screen which is reached via VO-M. The first menu item is always the 
Apple menu and under there is always Software Update. That should 
default to running every so often all by itself. Software update will 
scan all the Apple related stuff installed on your machine, notify you 
of updates and download/install them. No need to go and manually 
download/install anything.


3 - Depends on your definition of "similar specs". Generally Apple only 
sells high-end hardware so if you were to run windows on it via bootcamp 
you'll probably find it to be quite fast compared to other windows 
laptops. Some reviews in the past have claimed that Apple's laptops are 
actually the fastest hardware for running Windows.


5 - What do you mean by using your iPhone as a modem? If you mean 
tethering, I thought that was turned off for AT&T, but maybe it's on for 
other carriers or in other countries. If it is turned on then I think 
your phone just becomes a wifi hotspot which would allow any wifi device 
with the right credentials to use your phone's internet connection.


CB

On 9/30/11 7:40 PM, Gavin wrote:

Hi Guys,
I've ordered a MacBook Pro and it should be here on Monday or Tuesday. 
This is my very first time owning an Apple computer of any kind, so I 
have virtually no experience with using one. Plenty of Googling, as 
well as various podcasts from Blind Cool Tech, Blind Geek Zone and 
Vision Australia, are the extent of my knowledge. I have a few things 
I'd like cleared up, if possible:
1. What happens when you connect a Microsoft keyboard to a Mac? I know 
things like the "Command" and "Option" keys are swapped, that "Clear" 
is located above "num pad 7" on an Apple keyboard, and that "Fn" is 
directly above "Delete", also on an Apple keyboard. But what happens 
when a PC keyboard is connected and you press keys like "num lock", 
"scroll lock" or "Insert"? Do they perform the functions that the keys 
in the same locations on an Apple keyboard would?
2. As far as I know, my machine will be running Snow Leopard. I'm not 
sure how up-to-date it'll be, so I downloaded the 10.6.8 update combo 
from Apple's site. Will it just install the updates to the software 
that are newer than what's on the machine, or will it want to start 
all the way from 10.6.0?
3. I've heard that, when running Windows natively on Apple hardware, 
it's much faster than running it on a PC with similar specs. Is this 
at all true?
4. On a related note, do the Windows drivers for the Mac hardware come 
preinstalled somewhere on "Macintosh HD", or are they on the Snow 
Leopard installation DVD? Also, does exploring the DVD in Windows 
display different contents to what is shown in Snow Leopard? I've 
heard people on podcasts say that, in Windows, they had to right-click 
the CD drive and select "Show Windows Files", or something to that effect.
5. Will I be able to use my iPhone as a modem in Snow Leopard? I can 
do it in Windows and it works beautifully, but only after I've 
installed iTunes. Will it "just work" in Snow Leopard, or does it need 
some configuring? If it needs configuring, where do I go and what do I 
do to get it to work?
I know that's a lot to take in all at once, but I'd like to be as 
prepared as I possibly can. Thanks very much in advance for any feedback.

Regards,
Gavin
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Re: ejecting volumes

Wonder if Spotlight is indexing the drive or some other related 
background task?


CB

On 9/30/11 6:50 PM, Paul Erkens wrote:

After having copied a bunch of files to your thumb drive, finder is usually 
still busy after the screen says the process is done. You can verify this by 
inserting the thumb drive so that it mounts, and then ejecting it. You may find 
that in that case, you only have to eject just once. If that is true, then you 
know the cause of your problem. Smart drive under dos  did the same thing, and 
windows does it that way too, at least by default, as far as my experience goes.
Hth,
Paul.
On Oct 1, 2011, at 12:46 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:


Hi Guys.
I have had an annoying thing recurring. I am using Lion, and just about every 
time I eject a thumb drive, I have to do it twice because the first time I get 
an error saying that Finder is using it. This is after I have copied a lot of 
files or updated them to the thumb drive. I have tried going to Finder first, 
and most of the time, I have the same thing happen? What's the best way to do 
this?

Gigi

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Re: Apple Care Protection

I actually installed a second drive which I partitioned into two pieces. 
One half is a time machine backup of the G4 and the other half I share 
to use as a time machine backup storage for a wireless macbook. Seems to 
work well but it does have the fatal flaw of the backup in the same box 
as the original. Someday I would like to get a Drobo and locate it 
somewhere up high.


CB

On 9/30/11 6:20 PM, Joan Alice Maria Gibson, Esquire wrote:

Chris!

Hooray for you! I am so pleased. Wish I could do the same with mine; 
but, can't see well enough and my hands are too spastic to 
handle/account for all the little screws at the bottom. Most I can 
hope for is to get help from a friend to remove the HD from its 'womb' 
screeching and screaming; and, to place it in an external dock which I 
bought for the purpose and believe it might work [if not destroyed]. 
My whole life is on that iMac G4 running Tiger!


JG

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Chris Blouch > wrote:


It's already been through one flood and, after drying out for a
while, still worked. Well, the hard drive that sits in the bottom
of the case was ruined, but a new drive made it all better again.
I keep expecting to turn it on and get nothing but a bad smell out
of it but so far it just keeps on working.

CB


On 9/30/11 2:38 PM, Joan Alice Maria Gibson, Esquire wrote:

Chris,

Trade you iMac G4's if I could! [Wish mine were still alive!] 

JG


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Re: Micrtosoft Word

Try the free Open Office or Libre Office which has some measure of VO 
accessibility built in. Why Microsoft refuses to make their apps 
accessible is a conundrum.


CB

On 9/30/11 6:16 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

Nope, it aint.


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On Sep 30, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Vítor Oliveira wrote:

Hi: Is Microsoft Word accessible? I've try it and I couldn't access 
text field.



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Re: First-Time Mac Owner

2011-10-06 Thread erik burggraaf

On 2011-10-06, at 11:48 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> 
> 3 - Depends on your definition of "similar specs". Generally Apple only sells 
> high-end hardware so if you were to run windows on it via bootcamp you'll 
> probably find it to be quite fast compared to other windows laptops. Some 
> reviews in the past have claimed that Apple's laptops are actually the 
> fastest hardware for running Windows.
> 
Really?  That is news to me.  Maybe on the IMac it's a different story.  On 
macbook hardware windows does alright but it's not either stable or snappy.  Or 
maybe it just seems boggy to me compared with mac OS on the same hardware.

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Re: iPhone 4s and Siri

2011-10-06 Thread Eugenia Firth

Guys, what is Siri? Maybe I missed something, but I never heard of this before 
and can't igfure out what it is. 

Regards, 
Gigi 

On Oct 6, 2011, at 10:06 AM, Aser Tolentino wrote:

> The Siriapp was pulled. If you already have it, you can enjoy continued 
> functionality until its servers are shut down October 15.
> 
> Respectfully,
> Aser Tolentino, Esq.
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> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 6, 2011, at 7:55, Chris Blouch  wrote:
> 
>> Really? I hunted for it but couldn't find it. Is it still called Siri? 
>> Closest I could find was Vlingo
>> 
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vlingo-voice-app/id297214191?mt=8
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 10/5/11 7:30 PM, Allison Mervis wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, you can still get the app on the 3GS or 4,  but from what I gather, it 
>>> doesn't do as many things as the built-in voice assistant on the 4S.
>>> Allison
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:30 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone 4s and Siri
>>>  
>>> OK, I'm confused now -- does this mean that those with iPhone 3GS's and 4's 
>>> can still get the sIRI app?
>>> Christine
>>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 4:27 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The original Siri iPhone App, before Apple bought them, ran on iPhone 3GS 
>>> or better:
>>> 
>>> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LwmUTA-pMRwJ:itunes.apple.com/us/app/siri-assistant/id351778157%3Fmt%3D8+siri+personal+assistant+app&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari
>>> 
>>> They were also going to make Android and Blackberry versions. Dunno if they 
>>> ever did.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 10/5/11 4:06 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>>> the only thing i read that sounded definite is that the seri digital 
>>> assistant will only be available on the iphone 4's. take care, max  
>>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Iz this just a feature of the IPhone 4S? or is it an IOS thing? Hmmm
>>> Matt
>>> Sent from my macbook pro
>>>  
>>> On 2011-10-05, at 1:38 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> yes, but the seri feature is only available if you have internet access; so 
>>> the key to this feature's useability will be the cost of data plans.  I'm 
>>> with sprint.  currently, the offer a completely unlimited plan, but the 
>>> roomer sites are all saying its just a matter of time before they do away 
>>> with that or cap it or exclude the iphone from it.  anyone have any hard 
>>> info on that question?  thanks, max
>>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:17 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So in case you haven't already found this, Apple released a video of 
>>> several use cases of people interacting with their phones purly through 
>>> speech.
  
 http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/siri.html
  
 CB
  
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Re: BOINC Manager, and Reviewing Running Processes When Not Logged In?

Hadn't really heard of BOINC before but the instructions say that the 
default configuration is to have the boinc client launch when you login 
unless you've taken special steps to run it as a daemon. If you did that 
then it is always running.


http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Tools_for_Mac_OS_X

CB

On 9/30/11 5:28 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:

Hi, all,

Is there any way to monitor processes running in Lion while in the login 
screen? I don't remember if BOINC was set up to run for all users. 
Specifically, I'd like it to run while I'm not logged in.

Thanks,
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Re: First-Time Mac Owner

I don't use bootcamp or Windows that much so this was based on some
articles I read, like these:

MacBook Air outperforms most windows netbooks and ultraportables:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/210840/macbook_air_outperforms_most_windows_netbooks_and_ultraportables.html

Macbook Pro review - Search for Windows Benchmarks
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/04/macbook-pro-review-early-2011/

That said, I use Fusion as it is much faster to get in and out of for
the occasional Windows app than having to reboot into Windows. Boggy vs.
Snappy is a bit subjective. It could just be raised expectations from
using OSX. On my real Dell WindowsXP box I'm still surprised how boggy
and slow Windows seems compared to working in OSX.

On 10/6/11 12:07 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:

On 2011-10-06, at 11:48 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

3 - Depends on your definition of "similar specs". Generally Apple
only sells high-end hardware so if you were to run windows on it via
bootcamp you'll probably find it to be quite fast compared to other
windows laptops. Some reviews in the past have claimed that Apple's
laptops are actually the fastest hardware for running Windows.

Really? That is news to me. Maybe on the IMac it's a different
story. On macbook hardware windows does alright but it's not either
stable or snappy. Or maybe it just seems boggy to me compared with
mac OS on the same hardware.

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Growl accessibility

2011-10-06 Thread Francisco Salvador Crespo

Hi,

I bought growl 1.3, but vo doesn't read me the notifications when i receive them
What configuration must i do to receive the notifications instantly?

Thanks,

Francisco

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Re: Micrtosoft Word

2011-10-06 Thread Teresa Cochran

Microsoft is not accessible at all in oS X. So that makes the choice less 
difficult. I've found Open Office to be marginally usable, Pages more so, and 
TextEdit wonderfully usable fore rtf and earlier Word versions.

Teresa
On Oct 6, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Try the free Open Office or Libre Office which has some measure of VO 
> accessibility built in. Why Microsoft refuses to make their apps accessible 
> is a conundrum.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 9/30/11 6:16 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> Nope, it aint.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
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>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 30, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Vítor Oliveira wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi: Is Microsoft Word accessible? I've try it and I couldn't access text 
>>> field.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Vítor Oliveira
>>> vitoroliveira2...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: BOINC Manager, and Reviewing Running Processes When Not Logged In?

2011-10-06 Thread Teresa Cochran

Thanks, Chris. I actually have been using it at login, and I've set it up for 
all users. I wouldn't mind setting it up as a demon, or running it through 
MacPorts. I'll poke around and see what I can do.

Thanks,
Teresa
On Oct 6, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Hadn't really heard of BOINC before but the instructions say that the default 
> configuration is to have the boinc client launch when you login unless you've 
> taken special steps to run it as a daemon. If you did that then it is always 
> running.
> 
> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Tools_for_Mac_OS_X
> 
> CB
> 
> On 9/30/11 5:28 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> Hi, all,
>> 
>> Is there any way to monitor processes running in Lion while in the login 
>> screen? I don't remember if BOINC was set up to run for all users. 
>> Specifically, I'd like it to run while I'm not logged in.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Teresa
>> 
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Re: My Tribute to Steve Jobs

Someone thinking accessibility is situational?

Ricardo Walker
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On Oct 6, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Cheree Heppe wrote:

> Cheree Heppe here:
> 
> What, specifically, is supposed to be presumptuous?
> 
> The dog guide trainers tell us that praise is good for the soul.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Cheree Heppe
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 06/10/2011, at 4:21, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Don't you think thats a bit presumptuous?
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>> www.mobileaccess.org
>> 
>> On Oct 6, 2011, at 6:08 AM, Cheree Heppe wrote:
>> 
>>> Cheree Heppe here:
>>> 
>>> This said most of what I think regarding the impact of Steve Jobs on the 
>>> Apple and blind user universes.
>>> 
>>> Thank you for articulating your thoughts so eloquently.
>>> 
>>> It may be time to write Apple's new head to share some of this directly as 
>>> a group, in case somebody thinks that accessibility is now situational.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Cheree Heppe
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 05/10/2011, at 23:07, Austin Seraphin  wrote:
>>> 
 I figured I should write something.
 
 http://behindthecurtain.us/2011/10/05/the-death-of-steve-jobs/
 
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Re: Lion Growl no longer free

2011-10-06 Thread Shawn Krasniuk

Hi. I downloaded the new version of Growl but didn't notice any changes besides 
the history thing. I still experience alerts not spoken automatically when 
using the Nuance voices with Voice Over. I'm still having to press the control 
key twice in order to hear them.

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Mission Control and Spaces in Lion

2011-10-06 Thread Mark Colman

Hello all,

I've been playing around with creating and using extra desktops/spaces but 
can't see how you can remove an empty one. Obviously they don't do any harm - 
you can forget they're there - but I'm sure there must be a way to close them 
when no longer needed?

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Re: listening to and using loops in Garage Band?

2011-10-06 Thread CJ Daniel

Hi Riccardo,

I really appreciate it.  Listened to the first one last night.  I'm wondering 
what you think the best source for loops is?  Again, I thank you!

CJ
On Oct 5, 2011, at 8:06 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Sure,
> 
> Here goes the links.
> 
> Part 1.
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5326929/GB-6-Part-1.m4a
> 
> Part 2.
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5326929/GB-6-Part-2.mp3
> 
> Part 3.
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5326929/Garageband-3.mp3
> 
> And the bonus episode.
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5326929/gb6-3.5-Bonus-.mp3
> 
> I hope you find them useful.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:39 PM, CJ Daniel wrote:
> 
>> Ricardo,
>> 
>> Any chance of downloading the Garage Band tutorials from some where, before 
>> the Mobile Access site is up & running again?  I'd really appreciate it, if 
>> it is possible.  I was hoping to get started with my learning curve, now 
>> that I have Lion installed.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> CJ
>> 
>> On Aug 31, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> you should check out the audio tutorials I did on Garageband.  I cover this 
>>> and a whole lot more.  Go to www.mobileaccess.org and on the site, do a 
>>> search for garageband. 
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>> 
>>> On Aug 31, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,
 I recently downloaded the 1.2gb pack of Apple instruments and loops and 
 all that.  I then enabled the loop browser and was looking at the table of 
 drum loops (in column view).  The help tag says to click a loop to hear 
 it, or drag it to use it in the project.  However, selecting a table row 
 (vo-space, up-down, mouse click) will not play the loop.  How do I get a 
 loop to play? How, if I decide to use a loop, do I "drag" it to my song in 
 order to use it, as the tag says? As always, thanks for all your help!
 
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Re: Selecting in safari

Hi,

You can control what to select by:
1. navigating to text of interest and interacting with text 
2.  place vo cursor at beginning of text to be selected.
3. press vo enter and it should say start selecting.
4. press vo left and right arrow keys to reach the end of text you want to 
select.
5. press vo enter again.
6. copy with command c.
hth

Ioana
On Oct 6, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:

> Both.
> That command hasn't changed.
> 
> On 2011-10-06, at 10:17 AM, Chuck Reichel wrote:
> 
>> Hi Matthew,
>> Are you talking about selecting in Snow Leopard or Lion?
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> According to the keyboard help, VO shift A only slects it. However, I've 
>>> never tried it before.
>>> 
>>> On 2011-10-05, at 8:55 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>> 
 What about vo-shift-a? I seem to recall that copying the chunk of text
 last spoken, not just the phrase.
 
 On 10/5/11, Matthew Campbell  wrote:
> Hey Matt.
> One thing that you might want to try is this.
> First, get VO to where the text is you want to copy
> Then, press VO shift C to copy the last phrase to the clipboard.
> Finally, go to text edit or where ever and paste
> Just keep doing that over and over until you have all that you want. It's
> kind of annoying way to do it but...
> One thing to keep in mind is that when VO reads text in safari, it's 
> reading
> paragraph by paragraph.
> HTH.
> 
> On 2011-10-05, at 8:33 AM, Matt Dierckens wrote:
> 
>> Hi Alex, I just tried, and VO didn't speak anything when I was selecting
>> things. Then I hit command C and it didn't work. Not sure why though.
>> Thanks for the response.
>> 
>> Matt
>> Sent from my macbook pro
>> 
>> On 2011-10-05, at 8:24 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>> 
>>> The way I've found to do it is:
>>> 1. Interact with the text and move to the start of the desired 
>>> selection.
>>> 2. Hit vo-enter.
>>> 3. Use normal commands to move from the start to the end of the
>>> selection.
>>> 4. Hit vo-enter again, then cmd-c to copy.
>>> 
>>> There's probably an easier way, but that is all I could find on Google
>>> when I tried selecting the other day.
>>> 
>>> On 10/5/11, Matt Dierckens  wrote:
 Hey all.
 I have important information on a facebook message and I need to select
 everything from it. For some reason however, this isn't seeming 
 possible
 and
 I'm frustrated about it. If anyone could give me a hand with this 
 please
 let
 me know. Thanks.
 
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Re: The continuing adventures of David eagle and his Apple Mac computer. this time it's about Sendspace.

Hi there,
2 observations to your method.
Firstly after making an alias you can copy and move to desktop but then if you 
press command option v it will move the alias there so you don't have to go 
back and delete it.
2. YOu can add files and folders to dock by selecting them in finder and 
pressing command shift t. To remove from dock activate context menu with vo 
shift m and go to options hit right arrow and press return on remove from dock.

Hth,

Ioana
On Oct 5, 2011, at 12:23 PM, David Eagle wrote:

> Well everyone, I am so glad that my rant has actually managed to prove
> productive. So many great tips, thank you.
> To make a short cut to a folder on your desktop: find the file and
> press Command L to make an Alias. Then copy the Alias and paste it to
> your desktop. YOu can then delete the Alias in the folder you copied
> it from if you like.
> I am a fan of the column browser which makes searching a lot easier. I
> was a bit confused about Command Shift G when I first discovered it
> because I thought you could type the first few letters of a folder
> somewhere on your computer and it would find the folder. So for
> instance to get my Podcasts folder in iTunes I could just press podc
> and then enter and it would take me straight there without having to
> go into Music, ITunes, ITunes Media, podcasts. Now I know it's for
> file paths.
> 
> I have used Saphari on a friends IPad and it worked brilliantly, but I
> wasn't uploading anything to sends pace. Thank god for my dropbox
> which makes sending files so much easier, when it's not full.
> 
> 
> Thanks for all the tips and for being so sympathetic towards my ranting.
> 
> 
> On 05/10/2011, Garth Humphreys  wrote:
>> Hi David
>> 
>> As another new user to the Mac I can certainly understand your frustration.
>> The Safari busy busy thing is seriously annoying. Stronger words would, of
>> course, be called for if we weren't in polite company :)
>> 
>> As for Finder, at first I called it Loser as I couldn't use it to find a
>> thing. Now however after about 3 weeks it seems completely fine and I can be
>> just as efficient in it as on Win 7 / XP. I pretty much ignore the side bar.
>> It can be useful however the key board shortcuts seem quicker to me.  As
>> someone else has said try using column view. Command+3 will get you into
>> this view. When in this view you can navigate through folders in a standard
>> tree structure. You need to make sure you have quick nab off. The up & down
>> arrows will take through the folders at a given level and the left and right
>> arrows can be used to collapse and expand folders.  Combine this with some
>> keyboard shortcuts and all is good, at least in my opinion.
>> Command+shift+C will take you to the top computer level where you can see
>> the various drives and network.
>> Command+shift+H will take you to your home folder, i.e., inside the users
>> folder.
>> Command+shift+A will take you to your Applications folder.
>> Command+Option+L will take you into your downloads folder. I'm not sure but
>> maybe this is supposed to be the exception that proves the rule :)
>> Command+shift+O will take you to your documents
>> Command+shift+D will go to your desktop.
>> 
>> There are of course others as well.
>> 
>> anyway I hope this helps a bit. You certainly aren't alone with your
>> frustrations. I am still glad I have windows at work where I need to get
>> work done.
>> So far I haven't found Safari on the Mac as good as it is on IOS, especially
>> on the iPad where I think it is fantastic. Then again I got my iPad 1 on the
>> day it was first released and I have only been using OSX for a few weeks.
>> 
>> Good luck
>> Garth
>> 
>> On 05/10/2011, at 6:32 AM, David Eagle wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, here we go again. Every time I switch on my Mac I take a deep
>>> breath. I think about all the amazing reviews I’ve read about these
>>> computers and assume that perhaps, this time, I will finally have a
>>> really positive experience. Today’s task was uploading something to
>>> sendspace. Things started off so well. Sendspace.com loaded no
>>> problem; I found the select file button no problem/ when I clicked on
>>> it, I got a window opening for me to choose my file. I’m not saying
>>> this is the fault of the Mac; it’s probably me and my stubbornness
>>> after years of using windows, but it took me ages to find the file I
>>> wanted. Did I have to interact with the sidebar or the thing that was
>>> called list. There was also a popup menu with a folder selected.
>>> Choices choices. After a few minutes of pressing buttons I found the
>>> file. The process seemed to have some level of cohesion to it, but I’m
>>> not sure what exactly it was. I’m sure it’s very clever and much
>>> simpler than the windows way of doing things. In windows I could have
>>> found my file in three seconds, rather than four minutes.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I accept that this is probably just something I need to learn
>>> and practise. Fine. I found my file

Re: The continuing adventures of David eagle and his Apple Mac computer. this time it's about Sendspace.

Hi,

In my experience I found that you can open and collapse folders like tree views 
in list view too.
Also for getting a list of useful navigation commands in finder go to the >go 
menu> by pressing vo m and pressing right to go to the go menu. Press down 
arrow and you will find a list of interesting commands.

Have fun,

Ioana
On Oct 5, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Garth Humphreys wrote:

> Hi David 
> 
> As another new user to the Mac I can certainly understand your frustration. 
> The Safari busy busy thing is seriously annoying. Stronger words would, of 
> course, be called for if we weren't in polite company :) 
> 
> As for Finder, at first I called it Loser as I couldn't use it to find a 
> thing. Now however after about 3 weeks it seems completely fine and I can be 
> just as efficient in it as on Win 7 / XP. I pretty much ignore the side bar. 
> It can be useful however the key board shortcuts seem quicker to me.  As 
> someone else has said try using column view. Command+3 will get you into this 
> view. When in this view you can navigate through folders in a standard tree 
> structure. You need to make sure you have quick nab off. The up & down arrows 
> will take through the folders at a given level and the left and right arrows 
> can be used to collapse and expand folders.  Combine this with some keyboard 
> shortcuts and all is good, at least in my opinion.
> Command+shift+C will take you to the top computer level where you can see the 
> various drives and network. 
> Command+shift+H will take you to your home folder, i.e., inside the users 
> folder. 
> Command+shift+A will take you to your Applications folder. 
> Command+Option+L will take you into your downloads folder. I'm not sure but 
> maybe this is supposed to be the exception that proves the rule :) 
> Command+shift+O will take you to your documents 
> Command+shift+D will go to your desktop.
> 
> There are of course others as well.
> 
> anyway I hope this helps a bit. You certainly aren't alone with your 
> frustrations. I am still glad I have windows at work where I need to get work 
> done.  
> So far I haven't found Safari on the Mac as good as it is on IOS, especially 
> on the iPad where I think it is fantastic. Then again I got my iPad 1 on the 
> day it was first released and I have only been using OSX for a few weeks.
> 
> Good luck 
> Garth
> 
> On 05/10/2011, at 6:32 AM, David Eagle wrote:
> 
>> Hi, here we go again. Every time I switch on my Mac I take a deep
>> breath. I think about all the amazing reviews I’ve read about these
>> computers and assume that perhaps, this time, I will finally have a
>> really positive experience. Today’s task was uploading something to
>> sendspace. Things started off so well. Sendspace.com loaded no
>> problem; I found the select file button no problem/ when I clicked on
>> it, I got a window opening for me to choose my file. I’m not saying
>> this is the fault of the Mac; it’s probably me and my stubbornness
>> after years of using windows, but it took me ages to find the file I
>> wanted. Did I have to interact with the sidebar or the thing that was
>> called list. There was also a popup menu with a folder selected.
>> Choices choices. After a few minutes of pressing buttons I found the
>> file. The process seemed to have some level of cohesion to it, but I’m
>> not sure what exactly it was. I’m sure it’s very clever and much
>> simpler than the windows way of doing things. In windows I could have
>> found my file in three seconds, rather than four minutes.
>> 
>> Anyway, I accept that this is probably just something I need to learn
>> and practise. Fine. I found my file and went to upload. I pressed the
>> upload button and I got: “Safari busy. Busy. Busy. Busy”. After a half
>> a minute I eventually heard “safari, ready”. Hurrah, I can finally
>> check to see if my file is uploading. I pressed VO right arrow and
>> heard to my dismay “Safari busy. Busy. Busy”. I quit safari and tried
>> again. But I got the same problem. Yet again I shut down my Mac and
>> booted up my windows machine. Within two minutes my file was happily
>> uploading to send space. While it uploaded I checked my emails using
>> another instance of Internet explorer. The file has now finished
>> uploading and I am going to email it to my friends. Windows hasn’t
>> said “busy” at me once. And what really gets me about this is that the
>> netbook cost £150 and I’m using the free screen reader NVDA.
>> 
>> How is it possible? I really want to know. I’ve got way more am than
>> my windows machine, and my Mac cost fifteen times more than my
>> netbook. How come I have to keep turning off my Mac and turning on my
>> windows machine? The mac looks great; it’s fast; it’s really quiet –
>> very little fan noise. But it can’t do things. It’s ten times faster
>> than my windows computer, but that only means it can do much more to
>> annoy me in a far shorter period of time than my windows computer.
>> 
>> I want to join the Mac party

Have trouble with adding mailbox to favorites

Hi all,

Don't know what I am missing but I cannot drag a mailbox to favorites. I get an 
error message that the macvisionaries mailbox could not be dragged to that 
location.

I know about the podcast bout would really appreciate written steps so I don't 
have to download it again.

Also how do I reply to sender of message or add sender to address book?

Thanks very much,

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Re: Lion Growl no longer free

2011-10-06 Thread Darcy Burnard

Apparently it's still an open source project, and the $2 is to support the 
project.  According to an article I read on I think Mac World, the source code 
is still available from the growl site.  So if you know how to build something 
from source, you could go that route.  
Darcy

On 2011-10-06, at 10:13 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> Yes, it's not a wallet breaker, but should you have to pay another $2 to make 
> a free chat app accessible?
> 
> CB
> 
> On 10/5/11 9:12 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>> 
>> If it's 2 bucks I'm gonna pay and be happy to have the service.  It's so 
>> useful that apple should just buy it and build it into the OS.
>> 
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion When 
>> will it be supported?  Ebony Consulting at accessibility Unconference 
>> Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit:
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>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>> 
>> On 2011-10-05, at 2:49 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>>> So I just had somebody ping me about upgrading to Lion and how they would 
>>> need to update Growl but now it was $2 instead of free. This got me 
>>> wondering. For many chat apps, or at least the ones I use often like Skype, 
>>> AIM and Adium, Growl is the common way to get incoming messages read. If 
>>> it's no longer a free solution for these otherwise free apps, should these 
>>> chat apps now go back and start adding self-voicing to their incoming 
>>> messages? I know AIM has this feature today but others got a bit of a pass 
>>> because Growl could take care of it.
>>> 
>>> CB
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Re: listening to and using loops in Garage Band?

You mean like from a 3rd party?

Ricardo Walker
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Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Oct 6, 2011, at 4:14 PM, CJ Daniel wrote:

> Hi Riccardo,
> 
> I really appreciate it.  Listened to the first one last night.  I'm wondering 
> what you think the best source for loops is?  Again, I thank you!
> 
> CJ
> On Oct 5, 2011, at 8:06 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Sure,
>> 
>> Here goes the links.
>> 
>> Part 1.
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5326929/GB-6-Part-1.m4a
>> 
>> Part 2.
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5326929/GB-6-Part-2.mp3
>> 
>> Part 3.
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5326929/Garageband-3.mp3
>> 
>> And the bonus episode.
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5326929/gb6-3.5-Bonus-.mp3
>> 
>> I hope you find them useful.
>> 
>> hth
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>> www.mobileaccess.org
>> 
>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:39 PM, CJ Daniel wrote:
>> 
>>> Ricardo,
>>> 
>>> Any chance of downloading the Garage Band tutorials from some where, before 
>>> the Mobile Access site is up & running again?  I'd really appreciate it, if 
>>> it is possible.  I was hoping to get started with my learning curve, now 
>>> that I have Lion installed.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> CJ
>>> 
>>> On Aug 31, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 you should check out the audio tutorials I did on Garageband.  I cover 
 this and a whole lot more.  Go to www.mobileaccess.org and on the site, do 
 a search for garageband. 
 
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 On Aug 31, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
 
> Hi all,
> I recently downloaded the 1.2gb pack of Apple instruments and loops and 
> all that.  I then enabled the loop browser and was looking at the table 
> of drum loops (in column view).  The help tag says to click a loop to 
> hear it, or drag it to use it in the project.  However, selecting a table 
> row (vo-space, up-down, mouse click) will not play the loop.  How do I 
> get a loop to play? How, if I decide to use a loop, do I "drag" it to my 
> song in order to use it, as the tag says? As always, thanks for all your 
> help!
> 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from BrailleNote
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I thought you guys might enjoy this walk down memory lane. :)
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Re: listening to and using loops in Garage Band?

2011-10-06 Thread CJ Daniel

Yeah,

I guess the other Apple Loops have been discontinued.  They're available 
through online third parties, but they're expensive.  So, I wanted to find some 
other compatible loops.  Any ideas?

CJ


On Oct 6, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> You mean like from a 3rd party?
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> 
> On Oct 6, 2011, at 4:14 PM, CJ Daniel wrote:
> 
>> Hi Riccardo,
>> 
>> I really appreciate it.  Listened to the first one last night.  I'm 
>> wondering what you think the best source for loops is?  Again, I thank you!
>> 
>> CJ
>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 8:06 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>> 
>>> Sure,
>>> 
>>> Here goes the links.
>>> 
>>> Part 1.
>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5326929/GB-6-Part-1.m4a
>>> 
>>> Part 2.
>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5326929/GB-6-Part-2.mp3
>>> 
>>> Part 3.
>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5326929/Garageband-3.mp3
>>> 
>>> And the bonus episode.
>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5326929/gb6-3.5-Bonus-.mp3
>>> 
>>> I hope you find them useful.
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
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>>> On Oct 5, 2011, at 10:39 PM, CJ Daniel wrote:
>>> 
 Ricardo,
 
 Any chance of downloading the Garage Band tutorials from some where, 
 before the Mobile Access site is up & running again?  I'd really 
 appreciate it, if it is possible.  I was hoping to get started with my 
 learning curve, now that I have Lion installed.
 
 Thanks,
 
 CJ
 
 On Aug 31, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> you should check out the audio tutorials I did on Garageband.  I cover 
> this and a whole lot more.  Go to www.mobileaccess.org and on the site, 
> do a search for garageband. 
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Aug 31, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I recently downloaded the 1.2gb pack of Apple instruments and loops and 
>> all that.  I then enabled the loop browser and was looking at the table 
>> of drum loops (in column view).  The help tag says to click a loop to 
>> hear it, or drag it to use it in the project.  However, selecting a 
>> table row (vo-space, up-down, mouse click) will not play the loop.  How 
>> do I get a loop to play? How, if I decide to use a loop, do I "drag" it 
>> to my song in order to use it, as the tag says? As always, thanks for 
>> all your help!
>> 
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from BrailleNote
>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap
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