Hi,

In my experience I found that you can open and collapse folders like tree views 
in list view too.
Also for getting a list of useful navigation commands in finder go to the >go 
menu> by pressing vo m and pressing right to go to the go menu. Press down 
arrow and you will find a list of interesting commands.

Have fun,

Ioana
On Oct 5, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Garth Humphreys wrote:

> Hi David 
> 
> As another new user to the Mac I can certainly understand your frustration. 
> The Safari busy busy thing is seriously annoying. Stronger words would, of 
> course, be called for if we weren't in polite company :) 
> 
> As for Finder, at first I called it Loser as I couldn't use it to find a 
> thing. Now however after about 3 weeks it seems completely fine and I can be 
> just as efficient in it as on Win 7 / XP. I pretty much ignore the side bar. 
> It can be useful however the key board shortcuts seem quicker to me.  As 
> someone else has said try using column view. Command+3 will get you into this 
> view. When in this view you can navigate through folders in a standard tree 
> structure. You need to make sure you have quick nab off. The up & down arrows 
> will take through the folders at a given level and the left and right arrows 
> can be used to collapse and expand folders.  Combine this with some keyboard 
> shortcuts and all is good, at least in my opinion.
> Command+shift+C will take you to the top computer level where you can see the 
> various drives and network. 
> Command+shift+H will take you to your home folder, i.e., inside the users 
> folder. 
> Command+shift+A will take you to your Applications folder. 
> Command+Option+L will take you into your downloads folder. I'm not sure but 
> maybe this is supposed to be the exception that proves the rule :) 
> Command+shift+O will take you to your documents 
> Command+shift+D will go to your desktop.
> 
> There are of course others as well.
> 
> anyway I hope this helps a bit. You certainly aren't alone with your 
> frustrations. I am still glad I have windows at work where I need to get work 
> done.  
> So far I haven't found Safari on the Mac as good as it is on IOS, especially 
> on the iPad where I think it is fantastic. Then again I got my iPad 1 on the 
> day it was first released and I have only been using OSX for a few weeks.
> 
> Good luck 
> Garth
> 
> On 05/10/2011, at 6:32 AM, David Eagle wrote:
> 
>> Hi, here we go again. Every time I switch on my Mac I take a deep
>> breath. I think about all the amazing reviews I’ve read about these
>> computers and assume that perhaps, this time, I will finally have a
>> really positive experience. Today’s task was uploading something to
>> sendspace. Things started off so well. Sendspace.com loaded no
>> problem; I found the select file button no problem/ when I clicked on
>> it, I got a window opening for me to choose my file. I’m not saying
>> this is the fault of the Mac; it’s probably me and my stubbornness
>> after years of using windows, but it took me ages to find the file I
>> wanted. Did I have to interact with the sidebar or the thing that was
>> called list. There was also a popup menu with a folder selected.
>> Choices choices. After a few minutes of pressing buttons I found the
>> file. The process seemed to have some level of cohesion to it, but I’m
>> not sure what exactly it was. I’m sure it’s very clever and much
>> simpler than the windows way of doing things. In windows I could have
>> found my file in three seconds, rather than four minutes.
>> 
>> Anyway, I accept that this is probably just something I need to learn
>> and practise. Fine. I found my file and went to upload. I pressed the
>> upload button and I got: “Safari busy. Busy. Busy. Busy”. After a half
>> a minute I eventually heard “safari, ready”. Hurrah, I can finally
>> check to see if my file is uploading. I pressed VO right arrow and
>> heard to my dismay “Safari busy. Busy. Busy”. I quit safari and tried
>> again. But I got the same problem. Yet again I shut down my Mac and
>> booted up my windows machine. Within two minutes my file was happily
>> uploading to send space. While it uploaded I checked my emails using
>> another instance of Internet explorer. The file has now finished
>> uploading and I am going to email it to my friends. Windows hasn’t
>> said “busy” at me once. And what really gets me about this is that the
>> netbook cost £150 and I’m using the free screen reader NVDA.
>> 
>> How is it possible? I really want to know. I’ve got way more am than
>> my windows machine, and my Mac cost fifteen times more than my
>> netbook. How come I have to keep turning off my Mac and turning on my
>> windows machine? The mac looks great; it’s fast; it’s really quiet –
>> very little fan noise. But it can’t do things. It’s ten times faster
>> than my windows computer, but that only means it can do much more to
>> annoy me in a far shorter period of time than my windows computer.
>> 
>> I want to join the Mac party. You all seem so elated by your Macs. Is
>> there a magic button to press that starts making it behave. I know I’m
>> ranting again but surely you can see my point. Is my experience so
>> anomalous? I read about all these people who say they bought a Mac and
>> now never use windows. But if I didn’t have a windows computer then
>> I’d achieve nothing.
>> 
>> I know this isn’t’ VO specific. I know it may even annoy some of you.
>> I know it’s not a particularly productive email. But if you do find
>> this email to be annoying and unproductive, think of it as a metaphor
>> for my general experience with the Mac. I feel as if I am the odd one
>> out, and I am waiting for the day that I am castigated from this list
>> for being “too PC”. O what irony. I hope you all enjoyed my hilarious
>> ending joke. I’m so sorry for ranting. I feel like an idiot. Please,
>> treat me like one. Tell me how I get the Mac to do the fundamental
>> element of a computer. That is: to compute! Because I am going to end
>> up not bothering to turn this machine on, which is such a shame
>> because it should be a great computer? Apparently.
>> 
>> I’m sure I’ll get there, and I promise, if I do, I’ll be singing the
>> Mac’s praises.
>> Thanks to everyone for being so patient and understanding.
>> 
>> 
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