Re: Sidebar and other Scroll Area Issues in Lion

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I know the point is that the sidebar is no longer working the way it once did 
but, I find it easier to skip using the side bar all together.  For example, If 
I need to go to a home folder, just press command shift H, and type the first 
few letters of the folder I want etc.  What advantage did the sidebar have if 
any?  Just curious.  Because I just gave up on the sidebar early in dealing 
with my Mac.
Ricardo Walker
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www.mobileaccess.org

On Aug 12, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:

> Scott,
> 
> I have always been able to use the arrow keys to move between items in the 
> side bar.  Also, I have always been able to press a letter key to jump to an 
> item as the original post mentioned.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> My experience has been that You have always had to VO-down/up arrow to 
>> navigate through the sidebar. This has been the case for as long as I can 
>> recall.
>> 
>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
>> 
>>> That is correct.
>>>  It appears that keyboard navigation in the side bar is gone in lion.  As 
>>> with other areas in lion, it seems that the kb focus doesn't track with vo.
>>> 
>>> Itunes 10.4 is something of a reck in my opinion.  I don't strictly mean 
>>> how it works with VO either Although, it is probably what has suffered the 
>>> most.
>>> 
>>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> 
 Hi, folk,
 
 I've noticed in Lion that the Sidebar in Finder doesn't seem to track 
 first-letter navigation, making it necessary to VO-down-arrow through it. 
 Anyone else notice this?
 
 Also, the latest ITunes sources area doesn't seem to be a list or table 
 anymore. When I press m for music, for example, I can verify that it goes 
 there, but VO doesn't report it.
 
 Is this a new kind of control? I'm thinking of exploring the keyboard 
 navigation of controls in System Preferences to see if I can find a 
 work-around.
 
 Other ideas?
 
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Re: web navigation?

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

I just don't see why it would matter.  generally speaking, on the web, pressing 
VO right aero or VO down arrow will land you in the exact same place.  The same 
for VO up arrow and VO left arrow.  left and up moves you backwards and right 
and down moves forwards.  The only time this really matters is when interacting 
with say a table.

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On Aug 13, 2011, at 3:22 AM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote:

> Okay, is there a way to navigate on the web using up and down arrows, instead 
> of left and right all the time?  I looked in the voice over utilities, and 
> web router, but no matter what I check and uncheck for navigation it stays 
> the same.  Is my request possible?
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RE: Viewing Music by Album or artist

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Chris. I already tried this and it doesn't work. VO just makes the
sound it makes when we can't do something.

 

Thanks.

 

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 9:37 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Viewing Music by Album or artist

 

Can you vo+space on the album, then interact with the table, and then
vo+right arrow over to the name column?  then just vo+down arrow through
each track.  It's annoying I know, but that's what you have to do.  Apple
kind a broke the accessibility slightly in that area in ITunes 10.4.  Same
goes with the sources list.  You have to interact, then vo+up and down in
order to hear things as you move.  It's downright annoying, but for now it's
what we have.

 

Chris.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Paul Hunt   

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 10:31 PM

Subject: RE: Viewing Music by Album or artist

 

Chris, I see my albums but don't see the songs in each of them.

How can I see the albums with their songs?

 

Thanks so much.

 

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 6:16 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Viewing Music by Album or artist

 

Go to the grid view with command+option+5.

 

Chris.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Paul Hunt   

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com ; accessibil...@apple.com 

Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 5:52 PM

Subject: Viewing Music by Album or artist

 

Hello everyone. In ITunes 10.3 and earlier, if I activated the browser I
could choose to view my music by album, artist etc and my music would be
nicely grouped. I would like to be able to do this in ITunes 10.4. Now, I
have 500 songs in a table listed alphabetically. Any ideas on how to set up
ITunes to group music by album or artist?

 

Thanks so much and I hope you have a nice weekend..

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Re: web navigation?

[Scott Howell]

That used to be the case, but there was some change. Of course depending upon 
how you set the rotor, you would go up/down. In other words, if you have 
selected links with the web rotor, you use up/down to navigate through the 
available links. Lots of options for what is included in the rotor can be found 
in the VO Utility, Web, and web rotor.

hth
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> Okay, is there a way to navigate on the web using up and down arrows, instead 
> of left and right all the time?  I looked in the voice over utilities, and 
> web router, but no matter what I check and uncheck for navigation it stays 
> the same.  Is my request possible?
> Kliphton SR
> (twitter&Skype) kliphton72
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Re: Sidebar and other Scroll Area Issues in Lion

[Scott Howell]

Ricardo,

The sidebar just provides a quick way to access a number of items at once. In 
other words, instead of having to hit command-shift -c for computer, etc. you 
can use the sidebar to get to connected devices, your home folder, etc. It 
really is a more visual tool, but is available with a little work using VO 
navigation. 

On Aug 13, 2011, at 5:03 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I know the point is that the sidebar is no longer working the way it once did 
> but, I find it easier to skip using the side bar all together.  For example, 
> If I need to go to a home folder, just press command shift H, and type the 
> first few letters of the folder I want etc.  What advantage did the sidebar 
> have if any?  Just curious.  Because I just gave up on the sidebar early in 
> dealing with my Mac.
> Ricardo Walker
> rwalker...@gmail.com
> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
> 
>> Scott,
>> 
>> I have always been able to use the arrow keys to move between items in the 
>> side bar.  Also, I have always been able to press a letter key to jump to an 
>> item as the original post mentioned.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
>>> My experience has been that You have always had to VO-down/up arrow to 
>>> navigate through the sidebar. This has been the case for as long as I can 
>>> recall.
>>> 
>>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
>>> 
 That is correct.
 It appears that keyboard navigation in the side bar is gone in lion.  As 
 with other areas in lion, it seems that the kb focus doesn't track with vo.
 
 Itunes 10.4 is something of a reck in my opinion.  I don't strictly mean 
 how it works with VO either Although, it is probably what has suffered the 
 most.
 
 On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
> Hi, folk,
> 
> I've noticed in Lion that the Sidebar in Finder doesn't seem to track 
> first-letter navigation, making it necessary to VO-down-arrow through it. 
> Anyone else notice this?
> 
> Also, the latest ITunes sources area doesn't seem to be a list or table 
> anymore. When I press m for music, for example, I can verify that it goes 
> there, but VO doesn't report it.
> 
> Is this a new kind of control? I'm thinking of exploring the keyboard 
> navigation of controls in System Preferences to see if I can find a 
> work-around.
> 
> Other ideas?
> 
> Teresa
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Re: Sidebar and other Scroll Area Issues in Lion

[Kristyn Leigh]

>From the desktop, option+command+L opens the download folder in Lion.  
On Aug 13, 2011, at 12:39 AM, Barry Hadder wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Your Downloads folder  should be in your home directory unless you or someone 
> moved it.  Just hit command-shift-h and you should be able to find it.
> 
> 
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 10:56 PM, larry wrote:
> 
>>  I have also noticed issues in navigating the sidebar.  I recently 
>> downloaded a program to the downloads folder and now can't find the file. 
>> Sighted assistance tells me that the downloads folder is indicated in the 
>> sidebar.  Is there anyway I can find my downloads folder and then get to the 
>> file I need.  I didn't have this prowlem with the previous operating system. 
>> I could be missing something.
>> Thanks much for your help.
>> Larry.
>> - Original Message - From: "Barry Hadder" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 5:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: Sidebar and other Scroll Area Issues in Lion
>> 
>> 
>>> Scott,
>>> 
>>> I have always been able to use the arrow keys to move between items in the 
>>> side bar.  Also, I have always been able to press a letter key to jump to 
>>> an item as the original post mentioned.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 12, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>> 
 My experience has been that You have always had to VO-down/up arrow to 
 navigate through the sidebar. This has been the case for as long as I can 
 recall.
 
 On Aug 12, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
 
> That is correct.
> It appears that keyboard navigation in the side bar is gone in lion. As 
> with other areas in lion, it seems that the kb focus doesn't track with 
> vo.
> 
> Itunes 10.4 is something of a reck in my opinion.  I don't strictly mean 
> how it works with VO either Although, it is probably what has suffered 
> the most.
> 
> On Aug 12, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Hi, folk,
>> 
>> I've noticed in Lion that the Sidebar in Finder doesn't seem to track 
>> first-letter navigation, making it necessary to VO-down-arrow through 
>> it. Anyone else notice this?
>> 
>> Also, the latest ITunes sources area doesn't seem to be a list or table 
>> anymore. When I press m for music, for example, I can verify that it 
>> goes there, but VO doesn't report it.
>> 
>> Is this a new kind of control? I'm thinking of exploring the keyboard 
>> navigation of controls in System Preferences to see if I can find a 
>> work-around.
>> 
>> Other ideas?
>> 
>> Teresa
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Re: battery life in my MacBook Pro

[Kristyn Leigh]

It is in the status menu. VO keys + M twice to get to the menu.  Then navigate 
through it the same way you do in program menus.

On Aug 12, 2011, at 5:53 PM, John Chilelli wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> Someone please tell me what the command is for me to hear what the battery 
> level is at currently on my 13" MBP?
> 
> Thanks all,
> 
> Johnny
> 
> 
> On Jul 24, 2011, at 3:06 AM, Shen wrote:
> 
>> OK, before any of you are a bit trigger happy with the reply button, let me 
>> preface this message by saying that I understand battery life is not 
>> something that is easy to calculate. Each minute your MacBook can be doing 
>> different things and the power draw from the battery is not consistent.
>> 
>> Having said that, I am somewhat convinced the battery life for my MacBook 
>> using Lion is now somewhat less than when I had Snow Leopard. I cannot prove 
>> it of course with easily reproduced steps. But at the moment, as I am 
>> writing this email, my battery status says 20-percent, an hour and 18 
>> minutes remaining.
>> If we calculate this up to 100-percent, we know this battery will last 390 
>> minutes.
>> I of course don't know what the battery life would calculate to be if 
>> everything is the same, and I am writing this email under SL instead of Lion.
>> But what I do know is that under SL, my battery can give me 10 plus hours of 
>> nonstop usage.
>> This is doing anything but running Safari. I have  mid-2010 MacBook Pro.
>> Again, I am not saying the battery life is definitely less, but it certainly 
>> feels that way. Especially when my laptop seems to run a little more warm 
>> than it has been in the past.
>> 
>> I am not seeking any answers. I just want to bring this to your attention so 
>> you can be aware of your MacBook's battery life under Lion.
>> I imagine this has a lot to do with what some people are saying about the 
>> Spotlight. Lion probably has a new way of indexing the files in your system 
>> and is caching it more actively than SL. I am not in panic mode yet. I am 
>> quite sure Apple will come out with an update to improve the battery life.
>> For the meantime, I cannot expect the 10-hours of battery life I had before 
>> running SL.
>> 
>> 
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unhiding still does not work

[Ray Foret Jr]

Okay.  I'm still having trouble unhiding all files in order to expose the 
AudibleActivate.sys file on my HCSD card.  Here's exactly what I typed in 
terminal without the quotes.

"defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles ON" then press return then 
press exit then return.

Am I still getting something wrong?  I ask because when I try to arrow up and 
down through the $VRAudible folder on the card, I still cannot see 
AudibleActivate.sys


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

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Re: unhiding still does not work

[louie]

Ray,
That command will show all files that are proceeded by a dot. By definition dot 
files are hidden files. The AudibleActivate.sys file is not a hidden file.

On Aug 13, 2011, at 5:47 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Okay.  I'm still having trouble unhiding all files in order to expose the 
> AudibleActivate.sys file on my HCSD card.  Here's exactly what I typed in 
> terminal without the quotes.
> 
> "defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles ON" then press return then 
> press exit then return.
> 
> Am I still getting something wrong?  I ask because when I try to arrow up and 
> down through the $VRAudible folder on the card, I still cannot see 
> AudibleActivate.sys
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> Facebook:
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> 
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Re: deleting sections of audio in Amadeus pro?

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi Courtney,

you don't need the upgrade for deleting audio.

Set the insertion point on the left position where you want to start to delete 
and press m. Set the insertion point then to the right end of the part you want 
to delete and press CMD + arrow left. Then press CMD + backspace. Should be 
done. But be sure you are working with the insertion point and not with the 
playhead. You'll find a good introduction how to use Amadeus Pro on 
http://maccessibility.net/guides/

All the best
Jürgen
Am 12.08.2011 um 21:23 schrieb Courtney Curran:

> Hi,
> I have an audio file that I'd like  to delete sections out of. But I'm not 
> sure how to select portions to delete, and I'm also not sure how to delete 
> the portions of the audio file? Is this even accessible with voiceover? I 
> have the previous version of Amadeus pro, I haven't gotten the payed upgrade 
> yet.
> Thanks,
> Courtney
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VMware fusion and JAWS

[ROD SKENE]

Good morning,
How do I re-map my right command key to an insert key and my right option key 
to an applications key while I am in VMware fusion?  Also, will it affect the 
keyboard commander commands such as right option key, T for time?
I hope everyone is having a great weekend!
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Re: system preferences not holding across sessions.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Joe,

Your System Preferences settings should stick, so it looks as though you have a 
problem somewhere.

First thing to do is repair permissions. To do this, open the Utilities folder 
(Cmd-Shift-u) and find Disk Utility. In Disk Utility, interact with the table 
and select the second row which should be your HD. Stop interacting and 
navigate right to select First Aid. Then go right again to Repair Disk 
Permissions. Click this and wait. You can see what's happening by interacting 
with the Results table.

If this doesn't fix your problem, try resetting the PRAM. To do this, shut down 
your computer, then hold down the Command, Option, letter P and letter R keys 
and, keeping these four held down, press the Power key and release it. Hold 
down the four keys until you've heard the start up chime four times, then 
release them and let the machine boot as normal.

If all this fails, you'll need to throw away the plist for System Preferences. 
It will be rebuilt immediately, so don't worry. You'll find this plist in your 
Home Library in the folder called Preferences (not Preference Panes). The file 
is called com.apple.systempreferences.plist. The Library folder is hidden but 
you can get to it in the Finder by pressing Cmd-Shift-g and typing "~/Library" 
without the quotes. You can put a shortcut to this folder in your sidebar by 
pressing Cmd-t once you've found the folder for the first time. Thereafter, 
you'll just need to find it in the sidebar.


Cheers,

Anne


On 12 Aug 2011, at 22:46, Joe Paton wrote:

>   Hi Folks,
> 
> I set the behaviour of function keys in system preferences, so the box is 
> checked to have f1 et cetera behave as they need to for voiceover, then we 
> reboot, and the check has leaped out of the box, and the function keys have 
> reverted back.
> to there original assignments.
> 
> This machine, does not display The login screen, just goes straight to the 
> desktop.
> Anybody have an idea how to keep certain keyboard settings in system prefs in 
> lion after reboot??  I guess there could be other areas where settings are 
> not maintained. But what good is a guess?
> Thanks good people.
> 
> JP
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Abbyy FineReader Express Preferences Unavailable

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, Folk,

Well, imagine my shock when I discovered that the menu choice was grayed out. I 
read about it on the Mac Updates site and apparently, the trial version is more 
stable than the paid version, since there was more demand for trial software.

Does anyone else have this experience? Also, is there a configuration file to 
explore in the terminal or text editor? I don't really need to adjust anything, 
but I like to know the options.

Thanks,
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Re: Abbyy FineReader Express Preferences Unavailable

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Teresa,

AbbYY FineReader for the Mac is an Express version and has no preferences. 
However, it works fine and can recognise up to three different languages in one 
document.

Cheers,

Anne


On 13 Aug 2011, at 18:50, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Hi, Folk,
> 
> Well, imagine my shock when I discovered that the menu choice was grayed out. 
> I read about it on the Mac Updates site and apparently, the trial version is 
> more stable than the paid version, since there was more demand for trial 
> software.
> 
> Does anyone else have this experience? Also, is there a configuration file to 
> explore in the terminal or text editor? I don't really need to adjust 
> anything, but I like to know the options.
> 
> Thanks,
> Teresa
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Re: Abbyy FineReader Express Preferences Unavailable

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, Anne,

I have no quibble with the way it works. It does what it's supposed to do, and 
very, very well. My curiosity always gets the best of me, though, and upon 
acquiring a new piece of software, I check out all the menu items, just in case 
my backbrain might remember them in a pinch. I simply wasn't expecting, 
frankly, to pay a somewhat serious amount of money and have this item 
unavailable. I will accept that I'm paying for the recognition and not the 
pretty trappings, however, since FineReader has been pretty much legendary for 
years now, and I had fantastic results using this OCR engine in Kurzweil in 
Windows.

I did see a post about the GUI being "rudimentary" and I was inwardly hoping it 
stays that way. :)

Thanks,
Teresa
On Aug 13, 2011, at 9:58 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

> Hello Teresa,
> 
> AbbYY FineReader for the Mac is an Express version and has no preferences. 
> However, it works fine and can recognise up to three different languages in 
> one document.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 13 Aug 2011, at 18:50, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Folk,
>> 
>> Well, imagine my shock when I discovered that the menu choice was grayed 
>> out. I read about it on the Mac Updates site and apparently, the trial 
>> version is more stable than the paid version, since there was more demand 
>> for trial software.
>> 
>> Does anyone else have this experience? Also, is there a configuration file 
>> to explore in the terminal or text editor? I don't really need to adjust 
>> anything, but I like to know the options.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Teresa
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Re: system preferences not holding across sessions.

[Hayri Tulumcu]

What is Pram? and how do you find all the shortcuts?
- Original Message - 
From: "Anne Robertson" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: system preferences not holding across sessions.


Hello Joe,

Your System Preferences settings should stick, so it looks as though you 
have a problem somewhere.


First thing to do is repair permissions. To do this, open the Utilities 
folder (Cmd-Shift-u) and find Disk Utility. In Disk Utility, interact with 
the table and select the second row which should be your HD. Stop 
interacting and navigate right to select First Aid. Then go right again to 
Repair Disk Permissions. Click this and wait. You can see what's happening 
by interacting with the Results table.


If this doesn't fix your problem, try resetting the PRAM. To do this, shut 
down your computer, then hold down the Command, Option, letter P and letter 
R keys and, keeping these four held down, press the Power key and release 
it. Hold down the four keys until you've heard the start up chime four 
times, then release them and let the machine boot as normal.


If all this fails, you'll need to throw away the plist for System 
Preferences. It will be rebuilt immediately, so don't worry. You'll find 
this plist in your Home Library in the folder called Preferences (not 
Preference Panes). The file is called com.apple.systempreferences.plist. The 
Library folder is hidden but you can get to it in the Finder by pressing 
Cmd-Shift-g and typing "~/Library" without the quotes. You can put a 
shortcut to this folder in your sidebar by pressing Cmd-t once you've found 
the folder for the first time. Thereafter, you'll just need to find it in 
the sidebar.



Cheers,

Anne


On 12 Aug 2011, at 22:46, Joe Paton wrote:


Hi Folks,

I set the behaviour of function keys in system preferences, so the box is 
checked to have f1 et cetera behave as they need to for voiceover, then we 
reboot, and the check has leaped out of the box, and the function keys 
have reverted back.

to there original assignments.

This machine, does not display The login screen, just goes straight to the 
desktop.
Anybody have an idea how to keep certain keyboard settings in system prefs 
in lion after reboot??  I guess there could be other areas where settings 
are not maintained. But what good is a guess?

Thanks good people.

JP

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eye-pal

[May McDonald]

Just curious if anyone has used this scanner yet. It looks pretty good but I 
haven't heard many people talk about it.

May and Prince Noah

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question about the universal access menu

[chad baker]

hi in the universal access menu on the mouse and trackpad tab i can't turn 
mouse keys on
when select the on button it goes back to off
its strange everything was working fine
any suggestions
thanks

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Re: system preferences not holding across sessions.

[Anne Robertson]

Hello,

PRAM is Parameter RAndom Access Memory. As for the short cuts, most of them are 
in the various menus. I often can't remember where they are because I've been 
using them for so long.

Cheers,

Anne


On 13 Aug 2011, at 20:13, Hayri Tulumcu wrote:

> What is Pram? and how do you find all the shortcuts?

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Re: question about the universal access menu

[Candie Stiles]

I have noticed this exact same thing happening. I read a few emails several 
days ago from people who are using mouse keys and wanted to try it out. I have 
also tried pressing the option key five times voice over said mouse keys on and 
then immediately afterward mouse keys off. I haven't been able to get it to 
work.
On Aug 13, 2011, at 11:40 AM, chad baker wrote:

> hi in the universal access menu on the mouse and trackpad tab i can't turn 
> mouse keys on
> when select the on button it goes back to off
> its strange everything was working fine
> any suggestions
> thanks
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Re: Viewing Music by Album or artist

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

I'm out of suggestions then.  I've never had that problem.

Chris.

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  Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 5:43 AM
  Subject: RE: Viewing Music by Album or artist


  Hello Chris. I already tried this and it doesn't work. VO just makes the 
sound it makes when we can't do something.

   

  Thanks.

   

   

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
  Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 9:37 PM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Viewing Music by Album or artist

   

  Can you vo+space on the album, then interact with the table, and then 
vo+right arrow over to the name column?  then just vo+down arrow through each 
track.  It's annoying I know, but that's what you have to do.  Apple kind a 
broke the accessibility slightly in that area in ITunes 10.4.  Same goes with 
the sources list.  You have to interact, then vo+up and down in order to hear 
things as you move.  It's downright annoying, but for now it's what we have.

   

  Chris.

   

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From: Paul Hunt 

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 10:31 PM

Subject: RE: Viewing Music by Album or artist

 

Chris, I see my albums but don't see the songs in each of them.

How can I see the albums with their songs?

 

Thanks so much.

 

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 6:16 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Viewing Music by Album or artist

 

Go to the grid view with command+option+5.

 

Chris.

 

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  From: Paul Hunt 

  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com ; accessibil...@apple.com 

  Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 5:52 PM

  Subject: Viewing Music by Album or artist

   

  Hello everyone. In ITunes 10.3 and earlier, if I activated the browser I 
could choose to view my music by album, artist etc and my music would be nicely 
grouped. I would like to be able to do this in ITunes 10.4. Now, I have 500 
songs in a table listed alphabetically. Any ideas on how to set up ITunes to 
group music by album or artist?

   

  Thanks so much and I hope you have a nice weekend..

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Re: unhiding still does not work

[Ray Foret Jr]

Now that is interesting because I cannot see it on the HCSD card I authorized 
using a windows lap top last night.  That file should be there; and, it is not. 
 Yet, I can see it on my windows machine.  Therefore, I must conclude that Lion 
has hidden it or something.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
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Facebook:
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On Aug 13, 2011, at 8:10 AM, louie wrote:

> Ray,
> That command will show all files that are proceeded by a dot. By definition 
> dot files are hidden files. The AudibleActivate.sys file is not a hidden file.
> 
> On Aug 13, 2011, at 5:47 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> Okay.  I'm still having trouble unhiding all files in order to expose the 
>> AudibleActivate.sys file on my HCSD card.  Here's exactly what I typed in 
>> terminal without the quotes.
>> 
>> "defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles ON" then press return 
>> then press exit then return.
>> 
>> Am I still getting something wrong?  I ask because when I try to arrow up 
>> and down through the $VRAudible folder on the card, I still cannot see 
>> AudibleActivate.sys
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
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iMac display questions

[Ed Worrell]

Hello listers. I have a 27 inch iMac. I was wondering if it was possible to use 
the Monitor as a monitor for a display for a second computer? The computer is a 
windows machine. I would like to know if any one has done this successfully.

Thanks Ed

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Re: eye-pal

[erik burggraaf]

Hi May,  There are a lot of things not to like about it.  It's a native windows 
app running in wine for one thing.  No voiceover support.  Crappy speech 
synthesizers IMHO though opinions will vary.  No braille support. Clunky 
interface with counter-intuitive hotkeys and processes.  and the price tag 
which dropped here in canada by nearly 1 third in February and is still fart 
too high.

On the plus side, it's fast, accurate, portable, nice-looking when set up on a 
desk.  ABISee has given me very little cause to complain about support.  And 
it's the only thing I've found on that just works on the mac.  No complicated 
string of off the shelf software one for each part of the process.  No scanner 
compatibility or driver accessibility issues.  No processing in the cloud.  
Just press the button and let it fly.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
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On 2011-08-13, at 2:22 PM, May McDonald wrote:

> Just curious if anyone has used this scanner yet. It looks pretty good but I 
> haven't heard many people talk about it.
> 
> May and Prince Noah
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Re: Good news for all writers

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi Mark..

I have installed storyist, I would like to use it for creating epub files.

But how do I read the text when I have imported a document. I can not find the 
text anywhere so that I can create headings and prepare it for epub conversion.

I hope you can tell me, what I am doing wrong.


Best regards Annie.

Den Jul 31, 2011 kl. 2:56 AM skrev M. Taylor:

> Hello Jürgen and thank you for both posting this notice and for signing your
> name to the end of your message.  I much prefer to respond to someone by
> name.  
> 
> Scrivener sounds like a marvelous app that I will definitely explore.  I do
> enjoy browsing the Mac App Store.  
> 
> To create eBooks, I use a program called Storyist.  I believe the cost is
> about $30 and it is not yet available on the Mac App Store but the website
> is:  www.storyist.com The programmer has added complete VoiceOver
> accessibility for us.  
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jürgen Fleger
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:51 PM
> To: Mac Visionaries Visionaries
> Subject: Good news for all writers
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> here's a good news for all of you who likes to write textes, novels and so:
> One of the most popular programs for writer is Scrivener. It provides you
> with different styles to write manuscripts or even complete novels. The
> latest version of Scrivener took a big step to get more accessible. I can
> really recommend it to write your poetries or what ever.
> 
> More info in the Mac App Store or here:
> http://www.literatureandlatte.com/
> 
> All the best
> Jürgen
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OT: CoreServicesUIAgent

[Shen]

Hello,
Sorry for the off topic post. Hopefully someone can point me in the right 
direction.
Whenever I download an application and run it for the first time, I get the 
CoreServicesUIAgent window telling me this is an application downloaded from 
the internet and do I wan to open it. I usually just click Open and it goes 
away. This only pops up when I open an application for the first time. This is 
fine, I can understand this.
However, why is Lion doing this to me when I open mp3 files? I don't get it. 
For every mp3 file I open, I will get this dialog window.
Does anyone know where I can modify this so that I don't see it for certain 
file types like mp3s?
Thanks.

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Re: VMware fusion and JAWS

There is a sharp key file that allows you to do this, google sharp keys for 
windows and you should find it.  And know, it won't change your keys for the 
windows side.  If you can't find it by googling, email me off list and I will 
send it to you.
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On Aug 13, 2011, at 10:29 AM, ROD SKENE wrote:

> Good morning,
> How do I re-map my right command key to an insert key and my right option key 
> to an applications key while I am in VMware fusion?  Also, will it affect the 
> keyboard commander commands such as right option key, T for time?
> I hope everyone is having a great weekend!
> Rod
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[Mac-cessibility News] The Mac-cessibility Round Table Podcast #15 - The Apple Frontier

[Maccessibility]

The Mac-cessibility Round Table Podcast #15 - The Apple Frontier

In this episode of the Mac-cessibility Round Table Podcast, our knights discuss,
primarily, Mac OS X 10.7 Lion and its new accessibility features, especially the
new features found in VoiceOver

RoaringApps.com - A site to check the Lion compatibility of your applications


You can read the rest of this news item at:
http://www.lioncourt.com/2011/08/13/the-mac-cessibility-round-table-podcast-15-the-apple-frontier/

The Mac-cessibility Network
"...it's all within our reach..."
http://maccessibility.net

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found real neat tool

[Ray Foret Jr]

Hi there,

AS many of y'all will be aware, I've had issues exposing the 
AudibleActivation.sys file on my Victor Reader Stream HCSD card using my Mac.  
Tonight, I've found a solution which I"m very happy with.  It's called Tinker 
Tool.  It can be found here:

http://www.bresink.com/osx/TinkerTool.html

You'll be happy to know that this little tool is completely accessible!!!  Does 
the job quite nicely!!

OF course, another thing about this little app is that it costs  absolutely 
nothing.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

Facebook:
facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1



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Re: iMac display questions

[Chris Blouch]

As far as using it as a dumb VGA display, there is no "video in" on the 
iMac. You could do some screen share stuff like VNC to access your your 
PC screen remotely on the Mac over a network, but that's probably not 
what you were asking for.


CB

On 8/13/11 4:11 PM, Ed Worrell wrote:

Hello listers. I have a 27 inch iMac. I was wondering if it was possible to use 
the Monitor as a monitor for a display for a second computer? The computer is a 
windows machine. I would like to know if any one has done this successfully.

Thanks Ed



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Re: Burney to the rescue?

[Chris Blouch]

Then it sounds like the usual long slog of contacting the developers and 
asking them to make things work with voiceover. Of course the Apple II 
part won't since that's an emulated machine so don't expect to control 
AppleWorks or Visicalc through VO. But the 'chrome' of the application 
such as loading up disks and such ought to be doable.


CB

On 8/12/11 7:36 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
I tried a bunch of them including virttual Ii, and sweet 16 along with 
berney, but they were pretty well a bust.


Best,

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On 2011-08-12, at 4:43 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

I thought Eamon was an old Apple II adventure environment. If so, you 
could try some of the other Apple II emulators like Virtual II, KEGS 
and Sweet16 and the Bernie II emulator you already mentioned. I've 
not tried any of these with voiceover but worth checking into. Most 
are free or have demo versions.


CB

On 8/12/11 1:18 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
Hi is anybody still following this?  I'm wondering if theres been 
any improvement in accessibility?  It would be nice to play eamon 
again without having to run it in a dosbox on my windows 7 virtual 
machine on my mac.  Three OS stacked ontop of eachother just to play 
a game seems a bit much.


Thanks,
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issue with google chrome

[Eric Oyen]

well,
I wanted to try out google chrome today and couldn't even get past the select a 
search engine interface. all it presented me with was 3 images and 3 unlabeled 
buttons. also, I couldn't use any of the web item rotor controls and even 
command Q would not terminate the application. so, unless anyone has some 
suggestions on how I can use chrome, I guess I am still stuck with safari. 

I really hate the thought of going back to windows after spending a year in OS 
X. I hated dealing with windows and its arbitrary interface that wasn't very 
blind friendly (even with NVDA). anyone have any clues for me?

-Eric

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Re: issue with google chrome

[Shen]

I have the same problems with Chrome. But when I was prompted to choose a 
search engine, I chose the first image button. I figure the choices are 
probably Google, Yahoo and Bing. I'm quite certain Google is the first choice, 
and I was right.
I am able to read an html site, but for some reason, some links don't click. 
Drop down menus like amazon.com does not work. When I type something in an edit 
box, apparently it is going into the box, but VoiceOver does not read it back 
to me.
I can't use tab navigation the way I do in Safari.
In Chrome Preferences, I can get past the first tab, which is Basic.
In my opinion, Chrome is somewhat accessible,but it's not ready to replace 
Safari.
I wish there is something that can replace Safari. At this point, I'm ready to 
go back to Windows and using Firefox with Jaws or Window-Eyes. At least it's 
not going to say "Safari busy".


On Aug 13, 2011, at 10:54 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:

> well,
> I wanted to try out google chrome today and couldn't even get past the select 
> a search engine interface. all it presented me with was 3 images and 3 
> unlabeled buttons. also, I couldn't use any of the web item rotor controls 
> and even command Q would not terminate the application. so, unless anyone has 
> some suggestions on how I can use chrome, I guess I am still stuck with 
> safari. 
> 
> I really hate the thought of going back to windows after spending a year in 
> OS X. I hated dealing with windows and its arbitrary interface that wasn't 
> very blind friendly (even with NVDA). anyone have any clues for me?
> 
> -Eric
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Sendspace wizard and sendspace.com

[Shen]

I'm curious if anyone has been able to navigate the sendspace.com website using 
Safari 5.1 in Lion.
I know the wizard is not accessible, so that's out of the question.
I just discovered today that if I tried deleting a file on sendspace.com using 
Safari, it will go into endless busy.
Chrome isn't coming to the rescue because I can't even log in. Clicking on the 
log in link and nothing happens.

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