Re: More Dashboard questions

[joseph]

hi Ricardo

in sl, i used to obtain this info probably by system pref/mouse or keyboard.  
this info is no longer available in lion, or, as far as i know.

best

joseph
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> Hi,
> 
> I'm not sure if your aware but, battery status can be found in the bluetooth 
> menu in the status bar.  Its in the sub menu of the BT device.
> 
> hth
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excel spreadsheets in Numbers

[Cam]

Hi

Can anyone tell me how I can edit the contents of a cell in Numbers? I
have loaded in an excel spreadsheet, and can read its content, but I
can't add anything else into the sheet and I can't edit the content in
a cell. If anyone can help it would be much appreciated. Also how do I
move from one worksheet to another if a workbook contains multiple
work sheets?

Many thanks,
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Re: More Dashboard questions

[Ricardo Walker]

Sure it is.

When I go to keyboard in system prefs, regardless of the tab I'm in, It shows 
the battery status of my BT keyboard.

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Sound Studio 4

[Cam]

HI all,

I posted to the list a couple of days ago but I didn't receive any
responses, so I thought I'd try again and see if someone could assist
me with Sound Studio 4. I can set up a new window, and start and stop
recording. What I can't do is delete portions of a recorded track, or
insert new tracks into the middle of a recording. I am a university
lecturer and am using the software to record podcasts. Nothing too
complicated - I'm happy to learn that stuff later. But I would really
like to be able to mark sections of the recordings and delete them and
replace them with new content. If anyone could assist me here I would
really appreciate it.

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info for list members - a program that converts video and audio formats

[Cam]

Hi all,

Just thought I'd let you know of a program called Adapter. It's a free
program and it lets you convert almost any audio or video file into
different formats. For instance, I am producing podcasts for my
students using Sound Studio and recording in .wav format. I then use
Adapter to convert the files into mp3 format. The program is very
accessible with voiceover, and best of all, it's free.

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Re: info for list members - a program that converts video and audio formats

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi Cam.

Where do I find the program.

Best regards Annie.
On 10/08/2011, at 12.15, Cam wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Just thought I'd let you know of a program called Adapter. It's a free
> program and it lets you convert almost any audio or video file into
> different formats. For instance, I am producing podcasts for my
> students using Sound Studio and recording in .wav format. I then use
> Adapter to convert the files into mp3 format. The program is very
> accessible with voiceover, and best of all, it's free.
> 
> Cam
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new member test message

[Manohar Singaram]

This is a test message. 
 thank you 
Mano

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Re: question about Scan Soft voices

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi. To find out if a voice is checked, look for an automatic download image 
beside the voice. HTH.

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Re: Misspelled Announcements

[Dan Roy]

Ok, when I read on the web, I don't notice this behavior, however, it could be 
that the things I am reading don't have any misspelled words in them.  So far, 
it's mostly mail that has this problem.  I am not ruling out the fact that it 
could be Safari, it just seems confusing that the problem is with mail which 
is, to my knowledge, completely separate from Safari.


On Aug 9, 2011, at 5:20 AM, Red.Falcon wrote:

> Hi Dan!
> This is a software update problem [not sure witch software] but people reckon 
> safari!
> But I'm not sure, but since I've updated my safari and a couple of others and 
> I'm still on snow leopard I also get this behaviour, so it is not just a Lion 
> problem!
> Colin
> 
> On 9 Aug 2011, at 04:27, Dan Roy wrote:
> 
>> Ok, I like having vo tell me I misspelled something when I am typing.  
>> However, I am annoyed about it doing so when reading mail.  If I turn off 
>> the misspelling indication from the VO utility menu, then, it won't work 
>> when I am typing.  Also, if I do a spell check, it won't read properly 
>> either.  I have already tried turning off automatic correction from the 
>> system preferences under language, and, it's still doing it.  Does anyone 
>> have any ideas?
>> 
>> I am, of course, using Lion.
>> 
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Re: excel spreadsheets in Numbers

[Greg Aikens]

To edit a cell, press option+enter on the cell.  
On Aug 10, 2011, at 6:09 AM, Cam wrote:

> Hi
> 
> Can anyone tell me how I can edit the contents of a cell in Numbers? I
> have loaded in an excel spreadsheet, and can read its content, but I
> can't add anything else into the sheet and I can't edit the content in
> a cell. If anyone can help it would be much appreciated. Also how do I
> move from one worksheet to another if a workbook contains multiple
> work sheets?
> 
> Many thanks,
> Cam
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can't escape out of menus

[chad baker]

hi i'm having trouble escaping out of any menu when i hit escape
its been working fine
i never had this issue before i'm stuck
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Re: info for list members - a program that converts video and audio formats

[Teresa Cochran]

http://www.macroplant.com/release/AdapterMac-1000b.zip

Teresa
On Aug 10, 2011, at 4:04 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen wrote:

> Hi Cam.
> 
> Where do I find the program.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
> On 10/08/2011, at 12.15, Cam wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Just thought I'd let you know of a program called Adapter. It's a free
>> program and it lets you convert almost any audio or video file into
>> different formats. For instance, I am producing podcasts for my
>> students using Sound Studio and recording in .wav format. I then use
>> Adapter to convert the files into mp3 format. The program is very
>> accessible with voiceover, and best of all, it's free.
>> 
>> Cam
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Re: More Dashboard questions

[joseph]

just went to system prefs keyboard and mouse, but no i am not getting the info, 
is there any adjustment i need to make?

best

joseph
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> Sure it is.
> 
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Re: More Dashboard questions

[Ricardo Walker]

This might sound like a silly question but, do you have bluetooth turned on and 
the devices connected?

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Re: can't escape out of menus

[Ricardo Walker]

What have you tried to fix the problem so far.  So this way people won't 
suggest things you have tried already.

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Re: can't escape out of menus

[chad baker]

hi ricardo i tried running disk permissions and reset vo preferences
thanks
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Re: sure wish they'd fix the focus issues with Voice Over and Safari

[Chris Westbrook]

When I've had this happen occasionally, closing and reopening the browser 
usually helps, but I'm using webkit not safari.  Also, I hope you mean 
vo+command+j cause vo+j won't take you to form controls ever lol.  Just making 
sure...
On Aug 10, 2011, at 2:23 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> boy oh boy,  This is about to drive me just plain  nuts!!!  A lot of times, 
> when I launch Safari, I don't get the sound telling me that a web page is 
> loaded and I hear Voice Over saying "Search edit box has keyboard focus".  
> When I go to any page after that, I  always need to interact with the page, 
> and, VO+J will not bring me to any form controls or edit boxes on the page 
> even though I know good and well they are there.  Sometimes, toggling Voice 
> Over on and off helps but not always.  Hiding the tool bar is not much help.  
> Seems to me they've just got to get that fixed!!  Anybody got any 
> other ideas how to get around that?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
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escaping out of menus fixed

[chad baker]

hi guys i fixed my issue of not being able to escape out of menus
i restarted the first time no luck but when shutting it down for a couple 
minutes
i turned it back on and all is good
strange

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Re: Resolution to iTunes lag in Lion.

[Courtney Curran]

Hi,
When I switched to fullscreen, voiceover didn't busy me to death anymore, :)
Courtney

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> Really?
> 
> I didn't do anything for me but, lag wasn't really my issue.  Its keyboard 
> focus, and voiceover busying me to death when I try to do anything with the 
> music table.
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Adapter for Mac: Where to put files for conversion

[Brianna Snyder]

Hi, 

I downloaded the Adapter program for file conversion. It seems accessible 
enough, but I can't figure out where to either paste the file I want converted, 
or where to put a path or URL to a file. All I see is an empty table, where I 
think I'm supposed to be putting these things. Any help on this would be 
appreciated. 

Thanks, 
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Re: can't play audio captias

[Chris Blouch]

Different sites  implement captcha (audio and otherwise) in many 
different ways. What site's captcha was giving you trouble?


CB

On 8/10/11 1:55 AM, chad baker wrote:

hi i can't play audio captchas in safari
java is installed
i go to the link saying listen to the numbers
i did the command and nothing played
any suggestions
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Re: excel spreadsheets in Numbers

[Kristyn Leigh]

You have to interact with the table which is your spreadsheet after you 
interact with the layout area.  I think there is a table which shows the 
worksheets in your workbook.  Using the item chooser and typing sheet is the 
easiest way to get there.

Kristyn 
On Aug 10, 2011, at 6:09 AM, Cam wrote:

> Hi
> 
> Can anyone tell me how I can edit the contents of a cell in Numbers? I
> have loaded in an excel spreadsheet, and can read its content, but I
> can't add anything else into the sheet and I can't edit the content in
> a cell. If anyone can help it would be much appreciated. Also how do I
> move from one worksheet to another if a workbook contains multiple
> work sheets?
> 
> Many thanks,
> Cam
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Re: Safari and Lion

[Chris Blouch]

These are ARIA (accessible rich internet application) roles which 
provide more semantic meaning to what a particular spot on the page 
really is. You can read more about the available roles in the W3C's ARAI 
specification here:


http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/roles#landmark_roles

The spec for this was more or less done back in 2008. Browsers and 
screen readers have been adding support ever since. I could be wrong but 
Safari/VO might be one of the last to adopt. IE picked it up with 
version 9 and Firefox had it back at version 3. I think Opera had it 
back in 2008. I'm assuming that Chrome, based on Webkit, is also late to 
the game as it only recently gained voiceover support.


CB

On 8/9/11 7:18 PM, Jessica and Goldina wrote:

ah. what do those terms mean? and do you know why voiceover would be reading 
all this other text for the link and then when I interact with the link i get 
to see the link title that voiceover should be reading? I've talked to others 
and no one else seems to have this problem! but it makes browsing the web kind 
of annoying cuz I keep having to interact with links!
peace and positivity
Jessica and Goldina
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On 2011-08-09, at 4:04 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote:


The text that is being announced like "banner", "search", "main" and 
"complementary" are landmarks.  They have been there a while in websites but, Voiceover did not previously 
announce them.

Jeff

On 2011-08-09, at 12:26 PM, Jessica and Goldina wrote:


hey all

I finally was able to update to Lion last night! finally got the funds and got 
home from my cabin where I had good internet. the install went off without a 
hitch…easiest install I've ever done!! and I really like the new layout in mail 
though I do have a couple questions about it too. but so far I'm really loving 
Lion and have no want or need to switch back!

Safari seems a little interesting, though. Voiceover seems to be reading some 
things rather interestingly that it didn't before. for example, when I go to my 
facebook page now, either the mobile site or the regular site, voiceover keeps 
talking about entering banner. leaving banner. entering navigation. entering 
complimentary. I'm assuming a banner is a frame, but why would the terminology 
change? also, instead of reading me peoples' first and last name as it used 
too, it now just says their facebook nicknames or sometimes just profile.php or 
a bunch of numbers. it's like it's looking under the link title at maybe a 
badly coded alt text? or some other text not visible on the screen. why would 
it be doing this? I'm not one for moving backwards to classic views or anything 
like that, I'd rather move forward and take changes in technology as they come, 
but this announcing things weirdly could make a lot of websites look less 
accessible than they are. is anyone else finding this and is there a way to get 
voiceover to read things on websites as they are?

thanks and I hope you all are having a great day!
peace and positivity
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Re: Sound Studio 4

[Darcy Burnard]

Hi Cam.  The most important thing about Sound Studio is to make sure you've got 
VO cursor tracking off.  You need to make sure you've done this before working 
in a sound studio window.  If you're running Lion, you might consider setting 
up an activity for sound studio that does this.
Darcy

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> HI all,
> 
> I posted to the list a couple of days ago but I didn't receive any
> responses, so I thought I'd try again and see if someone could assist
> me with Sound Studio 4. I can set up a new window, and start and stop
> recording. What I can't do is delete portions of a recorded track, or
> insert new tracks into the middle of a recording. I am a university
> lecturer and am using the software to record podcasts. Nothing too
> complicated - I'm happy to learn that stuff later. But I would really
> like to be able to mark sections of the recordings and delete them and
> replace them with new content. If anyone could assist me here I would
> really appreciate it.
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Re: [Bulk] Re: sure wish they'd fix the focus issues with Voice Over and Safari

[Ray Foret Jr]

OF course I meant command+VO+j.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

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On Aug 10, 2011, at 9:15 AM, Chris Westbrook wrote:

> When I've had this happen occasionally, closing and reopening the browser 
> usually helps, but I'm using webkit not safari.  Also, I hope you mean 
> vo+command+j cause vo+j won't take you to form controls ever lol.  Just 
> making sure...
> On Aug 10, 2011, at 2:23 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> boy oh boy,  This is about to drive me just plain  nuts!!!  A lot of times, 
>> when I launch Safari, I don't get the sound telling me that a web page is 
>> loaded and I hear Voice Over saying "Search edit box has keyboard focus".  
>> When I go to any page after that, I  always need to interact with the page, 
>> and, VO+J will not bring me to any form controls or edit boxes on the page 
>> even though I know good and well they are there.  Sometimes, toggling Voice 
>> Over on and off helps but not always.  Hiding the tool bar is not much help. 
>>  Seems to me they've just got to get that fixed!!  Anybody got any 
>> other ideas how to get around that?
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
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Re: more dashboard questions

[Donna Goodin]

Lol.  Thanks, Mark.  If you ever figure out the name of the word count widget, 
let me know, I'd love to download it.
Cheers,
Donna

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> YAY! I love it when people agree with me! *bounce*  There are loads of 
> widgets out there--one I like a lot but for which I forget the back trail is 
> one that counts the words in your TextEdit document, or a selection 
> cut/pasted into it.  Since I haven't found any way to do this from within 
> TextEdit (at least under Snow Leopard), as a writer, this was a handy widget. 
>  The unit converter, included, is also pretty nifty, if you want to make 
> yourself sound lighter by converting to KG from pounds, or something.  I use 
> the Weather widget all the time, and the list just spirals out of control 
> from there, and I'll end up using bullets again...
> 
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Re: more dashboard questions

[Paul Erkens]

Hi Donna and others,
Could it be the following that you are looking for? I found a widget but I 
haven't checked it out myself yet. I will soon though.
Download 132K
On Aug 10, 2011, at 8:07 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Lol.  Thanks, Mark.  If you ever figure out the name of the word count 
> widget, let me know, I'd love to download it.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> On Aug 9, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
> 
>> YAY! I love it when people agree with me! *bounce*  There are loads of 
>> widgets out there--one I like a lot but for which I forget the back trail is 
>> one that counts the words in your TextEdit document, or a selection 
>> cut/pasted into it.  Since I haven't found any way to do this from within 
>> TextEdit (at least under Snow Leopard), as a writer, this was a handy 
>> widget.  The unit converter, included, is also pretty nifty, if you want to 
>> make yourself sound lighter by converting to KG from pounds, or something.  
>> I use the Weather widget all the time, and the list just spirals out of 
>> control from there, and I'll end up using bullets again...
>> 
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Re: another change in Lion

[Paul Erkens]

Another way to quickly check your downloads folder from within safari is to use 
these 2 hotkeys in succession:
1. Press command h to hide safari. You can simply tab back into it later.
2. From the finder that you land in, use the finder key combination command 
option l. If you look in the finder menus under go to, you will find that 
command option l takes you straight to downloads. Note however, that this 
keystroke is Lion only.
3. When you know what you were after, command w to close the downloads folder 
and command tab back into safari.
Hth.
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> Hi,
> 
> when you have started a download, a download buttons appears in the toolbar 
> in safari.  Press the button and you can check the status of the download.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> 
> On Aug 8, 2011, at 1:15 PM, louie wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I have another item that is not working like it did in SL. In SL when I would 
> download a daisy talking book from NLS I would be switched to the download 
> folder the first time I downloaded a davy talking book. Now in Lion I am not 
> switched to the downloads folder. I have to manually go to the download 
> folder to find out if the download has started. Is there a way to get the old 
> action back?
> Thank you for any help.
> 
> louie
> louiem...@wavecable.com
> 
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Re: another change in Lion

[Kristyn Leigh]

I just discovered that handy shortcut in the "go" menu a few days ago.  I don't 
know if it is new or I just finally found it, but in the iTunes file menu there 
is an option to show  in a finder window (command + shift + R).  It was much 
easier than the old way I used to find iTunes music files to copy to other 
locations.

Kristyn 
On Aug 10, 2011, at 2:16 PM, Paul Erkens wrote:

> Another way to quickly check your downloads folder from within safari is to 
> use these 2 hotkeys in succession:
> 1. Press command h to hide safari. You can simply tab back into it later.
> 2. From the finder that you land in, use the finder key combination command 
> option l. If you look in the finder menus under go to, you will find that 
> command option l takes you straight to downloads. Note however, that this 
> keystroke is Lion only.
> 3. When you know what you were after, command w to close the downloads folder 
> and command tab back into safari.
> Hth.
> On Aug 8, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> when you have started a download, a download buttons appears in the toolbar 
>> in safari.  Press the button and you can check the status of the download.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>> www.mobileaccess.org
>> 
>> On Aug 8, 2011, at 1:15 PM, louie wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I have another item that is not working like it did in SL. In SL when I 
>> would download a daisy talking book from NLS I would be switched to the 
>> download folder the first time I downloaded a davy talking book. Now in Lion 
>> I am not switched to the downloads folder. I have to manually go to the 
>> download folder to find out if the download has started. Is there a way to 
>> get the old action back?
>> Thank you for any help.
>> 
>> louie
>> louiem...@wavecable.com
>> 
>> 
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Re: More Dashboard questions

[joseph]

yes i do.

best


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> This might sound like a silly question but, do you have bluetooth turned on 
> and the devices connected?
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Re: more dashboard questions

[Donna Goodin]

Thanks, Mark.  this will be handy.
Cheers,
Donna

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> Word counter is attached.  Just put it in your /library/widgets folder (note 
> there is no tilde (~) in that path because, remember, this all takes place at 
> the level toward root above your user account home) and you should be good to 
> count words.  happy counting!
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replying directly to sender, is it still possible in Lion?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi all,

I was just trying to reply directly to Mark's message, and I couldn't find a 
way to reply to sender.  I interacted with the message headers, but VO doesn't 
seem to focus on the from field.  I couldn't highlight Mark's address, and 
there was no way to bring up a context menu so that I could reply to him 
privately.  Has anyone figured out a way to do this in Lion?
TIA,
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Re: Mail Impressions in Lion

[Paul Erkens]

Ricardo,
That was very very useful. Dragging an item off the favorites bar in Lion mail 
has been a mystery, but no more. Thanks a lot.
On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:10 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I just want to say, thanks to the person who mentioned using the favorites 
> bar.  Its freaking amazing.  lol.  here's what you do, if the favorites bar 
> is not already shown press command option shift H to show it.  Now go to your 
> mailbox table and interact.  Navigate to the mailbox you want in favorites 
> and press VO comma to mark the mailbox for drag and drop.  Now stop 
> interacting with the mailbox table and navigate to the favorites bar.  It is 
> near the toolbar btw, and press VO period to drop the mailbox into to the 
> favorites bar.  Now, you can press command plus the corresponding number to 
> jump directly into the messages table for that mailbox no matter where you 
> are in mail.  You can double check what number your mailbox is by going to 
> mailbox in the menu bar and opening the go to favorite mailbox sub menu.  
> Even better, you can move messages from one mailbox to the next with a 
> keystroke.  When on the message you want to move all one needs to do is add 
> control to the favorite mailbox command.  for example, lets say my 
> Macvisionaries mailbox is the first item in my favorites.  It would be 
> assigned the number 1 to to jump to it I would press command 1.  Now lets say 
> my gmail inbox was the 2nd item in favorites so it would be jumped to by 
> pressing command 2.  Now lets pretend I wanted to move a message from the 
> macvisionaries mailbox to my gmail inbox.  I would just have to be on said 
> message and press command control 2.
> 
> This is a really, really, cool feature.  To remove a mailbox from the 
> favorites bar you can't use the new drag and drop method.  Here's how you do 
> it though.  Interact with the favorites bar and navigate to the mailbox you 
> wish to remove.  Now if your mouse cursor is not following your VO cursor you 
> will need to press VO command F5 to move the mouse cursor to the VO cursor 
> manually.  After that, press VO command shift spacebar to do a mouse down.  
> Now, stop interacting with the favorites bar and VO right arrow once to the 
> mailbox table.  Finally just press VO command shift spacebar to do a mouse up 
> and you will hear Mail make a sound to indicate the mailbox was removed from 
> favorites.  Keep in mind, if you don't have your mouse cursor set to follow 
> your VO cursor, when you move to the mailbox you will have to move the cursor 
> manually again with VO command spacebar.  Btw, the keystrokes can be found in 
> the menu bar under mailbox then explore the go to favorite mailbox sub menu 
> and the Move To Favorite Mailbox submenu.
> 
> hth
> 
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> On Jul 23, 2011, at 5:48 PM, Keith Watson wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> Funny enough I have switched from using quick nab in mail to not using it. I 
> now switch between my mailboxes and message area using the tab key and only 
> use quick nab to have the messages in a thread read automatically when they 
> don't.
> 
>>> I find this to use much fewer key strokes and am glad Scott finally 
>>> convinced me to do it this way.
> 
> 
> Keith
> On Jul 21, 2011, at 8:11 AM, David Taylor wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm playing with the new layout too. I just use Quick Nav a lot more than I 
>> used to in mail. I wonder if quite a few of the changes will make me default 
>> to having quick nav switched on most of the time now. I certainly like the 
>> way the preview is working for me as there are quite a few messages I would 
>> probably have opened before that I am not doing now.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Dave
>> 
>> On 21 Jul 2011, at 11:56, Zachary Kline wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> I wanted to give my impressions of the new OS X Mail, which I'm slowly 
>>> coming to grips with.  I've decided to force myself to use it in the new 
>>> layout, and have actually had some success with it.
>>> To begin with, the VoiceOver Getting started guide suggests using it with 
>>> the VO cursor, and I have to agree.  Doing it this way seems to be quite 
>>> fast, and is working quite well for me.  You can jump quickly between the 
>>> table of messages and the message proper with vo-j.
>>> Conversations can either be expanded or not, depending on whether you need 
>>> to work with the individual messages in them.  By default it seems the 
>>> focus is on the first unread message of every conversation, and they are 
>>> displayed in reverse-chronological order, which makes sense to me as you're 
>>> likely to be concerned with the recent messages over the older ones.
>>> Attachments work pretty much as they always have.  You'll find a popup 
>>> button in the message headers allowing you to save them, and a Quick-look 
>>> button allowing you to preview them.  This all requires the VO cursor for 
>>> navigation

Strange problem filling out a survey

[Christine Grassman]

Hello, all.  I am filling out a survey on-line, and the first part went 
smoothly.  However, although edit boxes are accepting my answers, when I need 
to check radio buttons, even though it says "selected," when I choose the 
choice I want, when I move on to read, let alone choose the answer for the next 
quesiton, my choice disappears. I've tried interacting, tried using tab instead 
of vo plus arrows, but nothing seems to be working to keep my selected answers. 
 I've never had this problem before. ADvice, please. TIA.
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Word counter not showing up, was more dashboard questions

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Mark,

I've copied Word counter into the directory, but it's still not showing up in 
the widgets menu.  I'm sure I'm in the right directory, because I see the other 
widgets there.  Any idea what might be up?
Thanks,
Donna

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> Word counter is attached.  Just put it in your /library/widgets folder (note 
> there is no tilde (~) in that path because, remember, this all takes place at 
> the level toward root above your user account home) and you should be good to 
> count words.  happy counting!
> 
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Re: Word counter not showing up, was more dashboard questions

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

You might have to go into the widget bar submenu to find it.  Once you open it, 
though, it should go into your more recent list of dashboard widgets.


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Re: Word counter not showing up, was more dashboard questions

[Donna Goodin]

I did that, but couldn't find it there.
Thanks,
Donna

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> You might have to go into the widget bar submenu to find it.  Once you open 
> it, though, it should go into your more recent list of dashboard widgets.
> 
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Re: replying directly to sender, is it still possible in Lion?

[André Nuno Soares]

Hello Donna,

Assuming that you're already navigating through the different headers with VO + 
arrow keys, do this:

VO right arrow until VO reads the address you want (typically it spells it 
character by character).
 Then VO left arrow once.

Now the context menu should show properly.

It seems that in Lion the context menu only shows if the cursor is immediately 
before the address, so you need to do this little dance with the arrow keys.


HTH,
André

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> Hi all,
> 
> I was just trying to reply directly to Mark's message, and I couldn't find a 
> way to reply to sender.  I interacted with the message headers, but VO 
> doesn't seem to focus on the from field.  I couldn't highlight Mark's 
> address, and there was no way to bring up a context menu so that I could 
> reply to him privately.  Has anyone figured out a way to do this in Lion?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Word counter not showing up, was more dashboard questions

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

Hmmm. I do not know why, since that's how I put widgets there. Try opening it 
manually the first time from the Finder?


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Re: Safari and Lion

[Jessica and Goldina]

ah, thanks! I figured it was something to do with Aria. still not exactly sure 
what the terms mean but I'll check out that site. I'm curious and interested!

and yay, I fixed my safarii issue!! and it was something really simple! as it 
usually is! the "name" checkbox wasn't checked under voiceover 
utilities/speech/custom table/link! I didn't eve think to check if all that was 
right cuz I had it set right in snow leopard and I just figured all my settings 
would be imported over but I guess it skipped one! so happy to be able to 
browse with ease again!!
peace and positivity
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On 2011-08-10, at 7:58 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> These are ARIA (accessible rich internet application) roles which provide 
> more semantic meaning to what a particular spot on the page really is. You 
> can read more about the available roles in the W3C's ARAI specification here:
> 
> http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/roles#landmark_roles
> 
> The spec for this was more or less done back in 2008. Browsers and screen 
> readers have been adding support ever since. I could be wrong but Safari/VO 
> might be one of the last to adopt. IE picked it up with version 9 and Firefox 
> had it back at version 3. I think Opera had it back in 2008. I'm assuming 
> that Chrome, based on Webkit, is also late to the game as it only recently 
> gained voiceover support.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 8/9/11 7:18 PM, Jessica and Goldina wrote:
>> ah. what do those terms mean? and do you know why voiceover would be reading 
>> all this other text for the link and then when I interact with the link i 
>> get to see the link title that voiceover should be reading? I've talked to 
>> others and no one else seems to have this problem! but it makes browsing the 
>> web kind of annoying cuz I keep having to interact with links!
>> peace and positivity
>> Jessica and Goldina
>> follow me on Twitter:
>> http://www.twitter.com/canadian_diva
>> 
>> On 2011-08-09, at 4:04 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
>> 
>>> The text that is being announced like "banner", "search", "main" and 
>>> "complementary" are landmarks.  They have been there a while in websites 
>>> but, Voiceover did not previously announce them.
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> On 2011-08-09, at 12:26 PM, Jessica and Goldina wrote:
>>> 
 hey all
 
 I finally was able to update to Lion last night! finally got the funds and 
 got home from my cabin where I had good internet. the install went off 
 without a hitch…easiest install I've ever done!! and I really like the new 
 layout in mail though I do have a couple questions about it too. but so 
 far I'm really loving Lion and have no want or need to switch back!
 
 Safari seems a little interesting, though. Voiceover seems to be reading 
 some things rather interestingly that it didn't before. for example, when 
 I go to my facebook page now, either the mobile site or the regular site, 
 voiceover keeps talking about entering banner. leaving banner. entering 
 navigation. entering complimentary. I'm assuming a banner is a frame, but 
 why would the terminology change? also, instead of reading me peoples' 
 first and last name as it used too, it now just says their facebook 
 nicknames or sometimes just profile.php or a bunch of numbers. it's like 
 it's looking under the link title at maybe a badly coded alt text? or some 
 other text not visible on the screen. why would it be doing this? I'm not 
 one for moving backwards to classic views or anything like that, I'd 
 rather move forward and take changes in technology as they come, but this 
 announcing things weirdly could make a lot of websites look less 
 accessible than they are. is anyone else finding this and is there a way 
 to get voiceover to read things on websites as they are?
 
 thanks and I hope you all are having a great day!
 peace and positivity
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Re: Word counter not showing up, was more dashboard questions

[Chuck Reichel]

Hi Mark,
I had to restart my box for it to work,
When Dashboard is running,look for "Widgets " in window chooser  
and remember to .

Also change the display order to  Sort by Date and make sure the Widgets
that you want to work  are not " Uncheck but checked.., it did come up  
ready to go already checked.

; and it showed up near the top of the list.
Again I had to restart for it to show up.
Thanks for the tip again.

On Aug 10, 2011, at 5:58 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:

Hmmm. I do not know why, since that's how I put widgets there. Try  
opening it manually the first time from the Finder?



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flash work arounds in safari 5.1?

[trahern culver]

hey all i've read on there web sight that click to flash does not work
in safari 5.1  so what flash work arounds are there? kind regards
trahern.

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Re: question about Scan Soft voices

[Mike Arrigo]

Yes, first, interact with the voices table, then arow down to read each voice's 
name. If you interact with the voice name, you can look at the separate 
columns, including whether it's checked or not.
On Aug 9, 2011, at 10:32 PM, Cody wrote:

> speaking of whch, while in the list of voices, you can't tell, or at least I 
> can't anyway, tell what voices are checked, so for me it is trial and 
> error...is there a way around this?
> - Original Message - From: "carlene knight" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:59 PM
> Subject: Re: question about Scan Soft voices
> 
> 
> Thanks.  Will try it.
> On Aug 9, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> 
>> Yes, assuming you are running lion, open the speech item in system 
>> preferences, and in the pop up menu, choose customize. From here, you can 
>> check the options and redownload the voices you want.
>> On Aug 8, 2011, at 9:20 PM, carlene knight wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi:
>>> 
>>> I just got a new computer and though everything was backed up, I seem to 
>>> have lost my ScanSoft voices and can't find them, even in the system access 
>>> speech menu.  I still have the Apple voices, even the ones I downloaded, 
>>> but those neat ScanSoft voices are now history.  Is there any way that I 
>>> can get them back without complication, as I'm not a computer whiz?  Thanks.
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Re: sure wish they'd fix the focus issues with Voice Over and Safari

[Mike Arrigo]

Do you have the tool bar enabled? If so, I would disable it. The less you have 
on the screen to keep the focus of the main content, the better, I would get 
rid of the tool bar, book marks bar, all of that extra stuff. I haven't had the 
issues you mention.
On Aug 10, 2011, at 1:23 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> boy oh boy,  This is about to drive me just plain  nuts!!!  A lot of times, 
> when I launch Safari, I don't get the sound telling me that a web page is 
> loaded and I hear Voice Over saying "Search edit box has keyboard focus".  
> When I go to any page after that, I  always need to interact with the page, 
> and, VO+J will not bring me to any form controls or edit boxes on the page 
> even though I know good and well they are there.  Sometimes, toggling Voice 
> Over on and off helps but not always.  Hiding the tool bar is not much help.  
> Seems to me they've just got to get that fixed!!  Anybody got any 
> other ideas how to get around that?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
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thoughts on the newest Skype?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Hi,

anybody got any thoughts on the newest Skype?  It's so weird.  You now have the 
option of checking contacts as favorites or none favorites.  The only way you 
can search for contacts via  first letter navigation now is if you check the 
second of the two radio buttons just to the left of the contacts table.  IF you 
check contacts as favorites, those contacts become part of the source table.  
With these contacts, you can VO+arrow to which ever favorite you want and 
interact with it.  Do this, and the regular buttons become available.  Now, if 
you don't want to check a contact as a favorite, you can just stay in the main 
contacts table and use first letter navigation to more quickly find the contact 
you wish.  Find a contact in this table and press return on it.  Once you've 
pressed return, the regular buttons such as call, video call ETC. become 
available.  
Sincerely,
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Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

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Re: thoughts on the newest Skype?

[Denise Barajas]

I honestly just hit for the context menu after interracting with the contact 
and just found the call button and hit enter. to me, tha'trs a bit easier.
On Aug 10, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> anybody got any thoughts on the newest Skype?  It's so weird.  You now have 
> the option of checking contacts as favorites or none favorites.  The only way 
> you can search for contacts via  first letter navigation now is if you check 
> the second of the two radio buttons just to the left of the contacts table.  
> IF you check contacts as favorites, those contacts become part of the source 
> table.  With these contacts, you can VO+arrow to which ever favorite you want 
> and interact with it.  Do this, and the regular buttons become available.  
> Now, if you don't want to check a contact as a favorite, you can just stay in 
> the main contacts table and use first letter navigation to more quickly find 
> the contact you wish.  Find a contact in this table and press return on it.  
> Once you've pressed return, the regular buttons such as call, video call ETC. 
> become available.  
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> 
> 
> 
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Re: thoughts on the newest Skype?

[Ray Foret Jr]

What version of Skype are you running?  Context menu don't come up for me nohow.


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On Aug 10, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Denise Barajas wrote:

> I honestly just hit for the context menu after interracting with the contact 
> and just found the call button and hit enter. to me, tha'trs a bit easier.
> On Aug 10, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> anybody got any thoughts on the newest Skype?  It's so weird.  You now have 
>> the option of checking contacts as favorites or none favorites.  The only 
>> way you can search for contacts via  first letter navigation now is if you 
>> check the second of the two radio buttons just to the left of the contacts 
>> table.  IF you check contacts as favorites, those contacts become part of 
>> the source table.  With these contacts, you can VO+arrow to which ever 
>> favorite you want and interact with it.  Do this, and the regular buttons 
>> become available.  Now, if you don't want to check a contact as a favorite, 
>> you can just stay in the main contacts table and use first letter navigation 
>> to more quickly find the contact you wish.  Find a contact in this table and 
>> press return on it.  Once you've pressed return, the regular buttons such as 
>> call, video call ETC. become available.  
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: thoughts on the newest Skype?

[Brandon Misch]

one thing i hate about the new version is your contacts aren't sorted into 
grops like offline/online but alphabetically regardless of status. hope there 
is a way to change this. 

On Aug 10, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> What version of Skype are you running?  Context menu don't come up for me 
> nohow.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 10, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Denise Barajas wrote:
> 
>> I honestly just hit for the context menu after interracting with the contact 
>> and just found the call button and hit enter. to me, tha'trs a bit easier.
>> On Aug 10, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> anybody got any thoughts on the newest Skype?  It's so weird.  You now have 
>>> the option of checking contacts as favorites or none favorites.  The only 
>>> way you can search for contacts via  first letter navigation now is if you 
>>> check the second of the two radio buttons just to the left of the contacts 
>>> table.  IF you check contacts as favorites, those contacts become part of 
>>> the source table.  With these contacts, you can VO+arrow to which ever 
>>> favorite you want and interact with it.  Do this, and the regular buttons 
>>> become available.  Now, if you don't want to check a contact as a favorite, 
>>> you can just stay in the main contacts table and use first letter 
>>> navigation to more quickly find the contact you wish.  Find a contact in 
>>> this table and press return on it.  Once you've pressed return, the regular 
>>> buttons such as call, video call ETC. become available.  
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>> 
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>> 
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>> 
>>> Facebook:
>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: replying directly to sender, is it still possible in Lion?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Andre,

Thanks, this helped me figure it out.  It seems that I need to interact twice, 
once to interact with headers, and then again, to interact with the text.  Then 
the "little dance" that you described works.  God, the new mail is a pita!
Cheers,
Donna

On Aug 10, 2011, at 5:41 PM, André Nuno Soares wrote:

> Hello Donna,
> 
> Assuming that you're already navigating through the different headers with VO 
> + arrow keys, do this:
> 
> VO right arrow until VO reads the address you want (typically it spells it 
> character by character).
> Then VO left arrow once.
> 
> Now the context menu should show properly.
> 
> It seems that in Lion the context menu only shows if the cursor is 
> immediately before the address, so you need to do this little dance with the 
> arrow keys.
> 
> 
> HTH,
> André
> 
> On Aug 10, 2011, at 8:30 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I was just trying to reply directly to Mark's message, and I couldn't find a 
>> way to reply to sender.  I interacted with the message headers, but VO 
>> doesn't seem to focus on the from field.  I couldn't highlight Mark's 
>> address, and there was no way to bring up a context menu so that I could 
>> reply to him privately.  Has anyone figured out a way to do this in Lion?
>> TIA,
>> Donna
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Re: Word counter not showing up, was more dashboard questions

[Donna Goodin]

Thanks Mark.  Running it manually worked.
Cheers,
Donna

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> Hmmm. I do not know why, since that's how I put widgets there. Try opening it 
> manually the first time from the Finder?
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Re: thoughts on the newest Skype?

[Patrick Neazer]

Hello Brandon and all:

Have you tried using command 3? That will provide you with a list of your 
online contacts. I am using skype version 5.3. 

Hopefully that proves of use to you. Please let us know.

Take good care and I wish you enough.
On Aug 10, 2011, at 8:05 PM, Brandon Misch wrote:

> one thing i hate about the new version is your contacts aren't sorted into 
> grops like offline/online but alphabetically regardless of status. hope there 
> is a way to change this. 
> 
> On Aug 10, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> What version of Skype are you running?  Context menu don't come up for me 
>> nohow.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 10, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Denise Barajas wrote:
>> 
>>> I honestly just hit for the context menu after interracting with the 
>>> contact and just found the call button and hit enter. to me, tha'trs a bit 
>>> easier.
>>> On Aug 10, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 anybody got any thoughts on the newest Skype?  It's so weird.  You now 
 have the option of checking contacts as favorites or none favorites.  The 
 only way you can search for contacts via  first letter navigation now is 
 if you check the second of the two radio buttons just to the left of the 
 contacts table.  IF you check contacts as favorites, those contacts become 
 part of the source table.  With these contacts, you can VO+arrow to which 
 ever favorite you want and interact with it.  Do this, and the regular 
 buttons become available.  Now, if you don't want to check a contact as a 
 favorite, you can just stay in the main contacts table and use first 
 letter navigation to more quickly find the contact you wish.  Find a 
 contact in this table and press return on it.  Once you've pressed return, 
 the regular buttons such as call, video call ETC. become available.  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 
 
 
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Re: thoughts on the newest Skype?

[Ray Foret Jr]

Ah, yep.  Command+3 will give you a list of all your Skype contacts who are 
online; but, calling them directly from that point is impossible.  
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

Skype name:
barefootedray

Facebook:
facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1



On Aug 10, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Patrick Neazer wrote:

> Hello Brandon and all:
> 
> Have you tried using command 3? That will provide you with a list of your 
> online contacts. I am using skype version 5.3. 
> 
> Hopefully that proves of use to you. Please let us know.
> 
> Take good care and I wish you enough.
>   On Aug 10, 2011, at 8:05 PM, Brandon Misch wrote:
> 
>> one thing i hate about the new version is your contacts aren't sorted into 
>> grops like offline/online but alphabetically regardless of status. hope 
>> there is a way to change this. 
>> 
>> On Aug 10, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> What version of Skype are you running?  Context menu don't come up for me 
>>> nohow.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>> 
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>> 
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>> 
>>> Facebook:
>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 10, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Denise Barajas wrote:
>>> 
 I honestly just hit for the context menu after interracting with the 
 contact and just found the call button and hit enter. to me, tha'trs a bit 
 easier.
 On Aug 10, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> anybody got any thoughts on the newest Skype?  It's so weird.  You now 
> have the option of checking contacts as favorites or none favorites.  The 
> only way you can search for contacts via  first letter navigation now is 
> if you check the second of the two radio buttons just to the left of the 
> contacts table.  IF you check contacts as favorites, those contacts 
> become part of the source table.  With these contacts, you can VO+arrow 
> to which ever favorite you want and interact with it.  Do this, and the 
> regular buttons become available.  Now, if you don't want to check a 
> contact as a favorite, you can just stay in the main contacts table and 
> use first letter navigation to more quickly find the contact you wish.  
> Find a contact in this table and press return on it.  Once you've pressed 
> return, the regular buttons such as call, video call ETC. become 
> available.  
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> 
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Re: Safari and Lion

is there a way to disable these descriptions?
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On Aug 10, 2011, at 9:58 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> These are ARIA (accessible rich internet application) roles which provide 
> more semantic meaning to what a particular spot on the page really is. You 
> can read more about the available roles in the W3C's ARAI specification here:
> 
> http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/roles#landmark_roles
> 
> The spec for this was more or less done back in 2008. Browsers and screen 
> readers have been adding support ever since. I could be wrong but Safari/VO 
> might be one of the last to adopt. IE picked it up with version 9 and Firefox 
> had it back at version 3. I think Opera had it back in 2008. I'm assuming 
> that Chrome, based on Webkit, is also late to the game as it only recently 
> gained voiceover support.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 8/9/11 7:18 PM, Jessica and Goldina wrote:
>> ah. what do those terms mean? and do you know why voiceover would be reading 
>> all this other text for the link and then when I interact with the link i 
>> get to see the link title that voiceover should be reading? I've talked to 
>> others and no one else seems to have this problem! but it makes browsing the 
>> web kind of annoying cuz I keep having to interact with links!
>> peace and positivity
>> Jessica and Goldina
>> follow me on Twitter:
>> http://www.twitter.com/canadian_diva
>> 
>> On 2011-08-09, at 4:04 PM, Jeff Berwick wrote:
>> 
>>> The text that is being announced like "banner", "search", "main" and 
>>> "complementary" are landmarks.  They have been there a while in websites 
>>> but, Voiceover did not previously announce them.
>>> 
>>> Jeff
>>> 
>>> On 2011-08-09, at 12:26 PM, Jessica and Goldina wrote:
>>> 
 hey all
 
 I finally was able to update to Lion last night! finally got the funds and 
 got home from my cabin where I had good internet. the install went off 
 without a hitch…easiest install I've ever done!! and I really like the new 
 layout in mail though I do have a couple questions about it too. but so 
 far I'm really loving Lion and have no want or need to switch back!
 
 Safari seems a little interesting, though. Voiceover seems to be reading 
 some things rather interestingly that it didn't before. for example, when 
 I go to my facebook page now, either the mobile site or the regular site, 
 voiceover keeps talking about entering banner. leaving banner. entering 
 navigation. entering complimentary. I'm assuming a banner is a frame, but 
 why would the terminology change? also, instead of reading me peoples' 
 first and last name as it used too, it now just says their facebook 
 nicknames or sometimes just profile.php or a bunch of numbers. it's like 
 it's looking under the link title at maybe a badly coded alt text? or some 
 other text not visible on the screen. why would it be doing this? I'm not 
 one for moving backwards to classic views or anything like that, I'd 
 rather move forward and take changes in technology as they come, but this 
 announcing things weirdly could make a lot of websites look less 
 accessible than they are. is anyone else finding this and is there a way 
 to get voiceover to read things on websites as they are?
 
 thanks and I hope you all are having a great day!
 peace and positivity
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Re: sure wish they'd fix the focus issues with Voice Over and Safari

How do you disable the tool bar, and if it's disabled, how would you access it 
if necessary?
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On Aug 10, 2011, at 6:13 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> Do you have the tool bar enabled? If so, I would disable it. The less you 
> have on the screen to keep the focus of the main content, the better, I would 
> get rid of the tool bar, book marks bar, all of that extra stuff. I haven't 
> had the issues you mention.
> On Aug 10, 2011, at 1:23 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> boy oh boy,  This is about to drive me just plain  nuts!!!  A lot of times, 
>> when I launch Safari, I don't get the sound telling me that a web page is 
>> loaded and I hear Voice Over saying "Search edit box has keyboard focus".  
>> When I go to any page after that, I  always need to interact with the page, 
>> and, VO+J will not bring me to any form controls or edit boxes on the page 
>> even though I know good and well they are there.  Sometimes, toggling Voice 
>> Over on and off helps but not always.  Hiding the tool bar is not much help. 
>>  Seems to me they've just got to get that fixed!!  Anybody got any 
>> other ideas how to get around that?
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
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Re: Strange problem filling out a survey

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

You might want to use trackpad commander to navigate through the survey.  I had 
a similar issue on a credit card sight just today.

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On Aug 10, 2011, at 4:44 PM, Christine Grassman wrote:

> Hello, all.  I am filling out a survey on-line, and the first part went 
> smoothly.  However, although edit boxes are accepting my answers, when I need 
> to check radio buttons, even though it says "selected," when I choose the 
> choice I want, when I move on to read, let alone choose the answer for the 
> next quesiton, my choice disappears. I've tried interacting, tried using tab 
> instead of vo plus arrows, but nothing seems to be working to keep my 
> selected answers.  I've never had this problem before. ADvice, please. TIA.
> Christine
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Re: thoughts on the newest Skype?

[Darcy Burnard]

If you've selected the second radio button, which gives you your contacts in 
list view, then you can do VO shift backslash on the status column to sort your 
contacts by status.  Then your online contacts should be at the top.
Darcy

On 2011-08-10, at 9:05 PM, Brandon Misch wrote:

> one thing i hate about the new version is your contacts aren't sorted into 
> grops like offline/online but alphabetically regardless of status. hope there 
> is a way to change this. 
> 
> On Aug 10, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> What version of Skype are you running?  Context menu don't come up for me 
>> nohow.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 10, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Denise Barajas wrote:
>> 
>>> I honestly just hit for the context menu after interracting with the 
>>> contact and just found the call button and hit enter. to me, tha'trs a bit 
>>> easier.
>>> On Aug 10, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 anybody got any thoughts on the newest Skype?  It's so weird.  You now 
 have the option of checking contacts as favorites or none favorites.  The 
 only way you can search for contacts via  first letter navigation now is 
 if you check the second of the two radio buttons just to the left of the 
 contacts table.  IF you check contacts as favorites, those contacts become 
 part of the source table.  With these contacts, you can VO+arrow to which 
 ever favorite you want and interact with it.  Do this, and the regular 
 buttons become available.  Now, if you don't want to check a contact as a 
 favorite, you can just stay in the main contacts table and use first 
 letter navigation to more quickly find the contact you wish.  Find a 
 contact in this table and press return on it.  Once you've pressed return, 
 the regular buttons such as call, video call ETC. become available.  
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 
 
 
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Re: question about Scan Soft voices

[Georges Zaynoun]

Where are these voices saved?
Do we have to redownload them again each time we make a fresch install of lion?
Can one integrate them directly with the lion install?
Talking about integrating can one make a install dvd or flash drive 
that includes any fixes directly with the lion install?



Thanks.
Original message:
Yes, first, interact with the voices table, then arow down to read each 
voice's name. If you interact with the voice name, you can look at the 
separate columns, including whether it's checked or not.

On Aug 9, 2011, at 10:32 PM, Cody wrote:


speaking of whch, while in the list of voices, you can't tell, or at 
least I can't anyway, tell what voices are checked, so for me it is 
trial and error...is there a way around this?

- Original Message - From: "carlene knight" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: question about Scan Soft voices




Thanks.  Will try it.
On Aug 9, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:


Yes, assuming you are running lion, open the speech item in system 
preferences, and in the pop up menu, choose customize. From here, you 
can check the options and redownload the voices you want.

On Aug 8, 2011, at 9:20 PM, carlene knight wrote:



Hi:


I just got a new computer and though everything was backed up, I seem 
to have lost my ScanSoft voices and can't find them, even in the system 
access speech menu.  I still have the Apple voices, even the ones I 
downloaded, but those neat ScanSoft voices are now history.  Is there 
any way that I can get them back without complication, as I'm not a 
computer whiz?  Thanks.



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Re: thoughts on the newest Skype?

[Brandon Misch]

hey thanks. would be nice if it was like how it was in Skype 5.2 and earlier in 
the 5x versions. 

On Aug 10, 2011, at 11:52 PM, Darcy Burnard wrote:

> If you've selected the second radio button, which gives you your contacts in 
> list view, then you can do VO shift backslash on the status column to sort 
> your contacts by status.  Then your online contacts should be at the top.
> Darcy
> 
> On 2011-08-10, at 9:05 PM, Brandon Misch wrote:
> 
>> one thing i hate about the new version is your contacts aren't sorted into 
>> grops like offline/online but alphabetically regardless of status. hope 
>> there is a way to change this. 
>> 
>> On Aug 10, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> 
>>> What version of Skype are you running?  Context menu don't come up for me 
>>> nohow.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>> 
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>> 
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>> 
>>> Facebook:
>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 10, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Denise Barajas wrote:
>>> 
 I honestly just hit for the context menu after interracting with the 
 contact and just found the call button and hit enter. to me, tha'trs a bit 
 easier.
 On Aug 10, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> anybody got any thoughts on the newest Skype?  It's so weird.  You now 
> have the option of checking contacts as favorites or none favorites.  The 
> only way you can search for contacts via  first letter navigation now is 
> if you check the second of the two radio buttons just to the left of the 
> contacts table.  IF you check contacts as favorites, those contacts 
> become part of the source table.  With these contacts, you can VO+arrow 
> to which ever favorite you want and interact with it.  Do this, and the 
> regular buttons become available.  Now, if you don't want to check a 
> contact as a favorite, you can just stay in the main contacts table and 
> use first letter navigation to more quickly find the contact you wish.  
> Find a contact in this table and press return on it.  Once you've pressed 
> return, the regular buttons such as call, video call ETC. become 
> available.  
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> 
> 
> 
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Re: flash work arounds in safari 5.1?

[Chris Blouch]

On the click to flash they recommend using the CLicktoPlugin which 
allows ClicktoFlash to work. There is a pre-built ClickToFlash 2.3.3 
download link here:


http://hoyois.github.com/safariextensions/clicktoplugin/

which seems to be working in Safari 5.1 for me. It downloads a plugin 
file which, when I opened, asks to install itself in Safari. After that 
my flash went away as before although I couldn't find any UI for 
configuring it like the old click to flash. I guess it's all or nothing 
at this point.


CB

On 8/10/11 6:50 PM, trahern culver wrote:

hey all i've read on there web sight that click to flash does not work
in safari 5.1  so what flash work arounds are there? kind regards
trahern.



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Re: Copying files frone one drive to another.

[Kevin Gibbs]

The goal is to move, not just copy the files.  cMDV does paste the
file.  But I'm trying to move, not just copy.

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issue sorting out Skype contacts

[Ray Foret Jr]

to the person who suggested using VO+shift+backslash to sort columns in the 
Skype window, it don't work for me.  I have selected the second of the two 
radio buttons, and, I'm focused on a particular contact.  Is there something 
else I need to do?  Every time I try to press shift+VO+backslash, all I hear is 
a ping sound.  What am I maybe doing wrong here?


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Re: [M-A] Apple Releases Utility to create USB Key

[Georges Zaynoun]

Is this recovery partition equivalent to creating a bootable lion flash 
drive in disk utility or ccc or the like using the installesd.dmg? If 
not where is the difference?



Thanks a lot.
Original message:

Thought you all might find this important.



Kawal.



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From: Chris Moore mailto:moor...@blueyonder.co.uk>>
Date: 9 August 2011 08:10:32 AM GMT+01:00
To: Mobile Access Chat mailto:c...@mobileaccess.org>>
Subject: [M-A] Apple Releases Utility to create USB Key
Reply-To: Mobile Access Chat >





Apple Releases Utility to Create Lion Recovery USB Key


Apple today released Lion Recovery Disk Assistant 
, a utility that lets users create 
a Lion recovery partition 
 on 
an external drive or USB key. Lion Recovery lets users "repair disks or 
reinstall OS X Lion without the need for a physical disc."





To create an external Lion Recovery, download the Lion Recovery Disk 
Assistant application. Insert an external drive, launch the Lion 
Recovery Disk Assistant, select the drive where you would like to 
install, and follow the on screen instructions.


When the Lion Recovery Disk Assistant completes, the new partition will 
not be visible in the Finder or Disk Utility. To access Lion Recovery, 
reboot the computer while holding the Option key. Select Recovery HD 
from the Startup Manager. Lion Recovery Disk Assistant can be 
downloaded from Apple's support website .


Apple's knowledge base article  
about the utility notes that the partition it creates has all the same 
capabilities as the Lion Recovery that is installed during a Lion 
installation. However, this partition could be used in the event a user 
can't start their computer from the Recovery partition or if the hard 
drive is replaced.



[Users can] reinstall Lion, repair the disk using Disk Utility, restore 
from a Time Machine backup, or browse the web with Safari. This drive 
can be used in the event you cannot start your computer with the 
built-in Recovery HD, or you have replaced the hard drive with a new 
one that does not have Mac OS X installed. The document has two final notes:



- If the computer shipped with Lion, the external recovery drive can 
only be used with the system that created it.


- If the system was upgraded from Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard to Lion, 
the external recovery drive can be used with other systems that were 
upgraded from Snow Leopard to Lion. We had previously reported 
 
that in order to do a clean install of Lion, Snow Leopard would need to 
be installed first. With this recovery partition creator, there is now 
an official path to perform a clean install without Snow Leopard. Also, 
this would seem to make the unofficial Lion boot disk creator 
 unnecessary.



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playing Audible Samples now absolutely impossible

[Ray Foret Jr]

As I reckon y'all are all aware, playing audible samples is now or seems to be 
completely and totally impossible.  Got any ideas how to solve this?


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Copying files frone one drive to another

[james Walton]

hi!
what you want to do is simple!
do:
command option v that will move the files
thanks

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Re: issue sorting out Skype contacts

[Chantelle Griffiths]

Hi Ray, 

You need to be focussed on the status field of the contact, similar to when 
sorting by a column in Mail etc I think. That's what I did and it seemed to 
work. My online contacts then appeared at the top of the list and the others 
below.

Cheers,
Chantelle 




On 11/08/2011, at 3:21 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:

> to the person who suggested using VO+shift+backslash to sort columns in the 
> Skype window, it don't work for me.  I have selected the second of the two 
> radio buttons, and, I'm focused on a particular contact.  Is there something 
> else I need to do?  Every time I try to press shift+VO+backslash, all I hear 
> is a ping sound.  What am I maybe doing wrong here?
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> 
> 
> 
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TeamTalk and Accessibility

[Earle]

Just wondering if anyone is using TeamTalk successfully. I tried 3 different 
versions with no luck. Tried them under Lion and Snow Leopard just in case that 
made a difference. Every version I tried wasn't accessible. Everything was 
unknown and even when I interacted I couldn't read anything. I found a version 
that was supposed to be somewhat accessible but I still couldn't read the 
preferences or anything else for that matter. Is there a version that even 
slightly works on the Mac? I'm not looking for complete accessibility even. 
I'll take a version that will allow me to connect to a server. I just don't 
want to have to use a windows machine to use TeamTalk. I know a few people that 
go on a particular server and would like to be able to join them. I thought I 
remember reading somewhere that there was a Mac user who had her own server. 
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Resetting voice over to it's default settings

[Ahmed Alomran]

Hi all
I am writing to ask whether there is  a way to reset voice over to itsoriginal 
settings?
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