Re: viphone and dropbox

2010-10-27 Thread William Windels
Hello all,

I have seen the function to put files in dropbox offline with the favorites and 
it works. However, with this option, it's not possible to put complete 
directorys offline.
I have zipped some folders and then I can take it offline as zip and unpack it 
in file app pro.
But, when I open a file there to read, it has a full screen without button to 
leave the text.

my question:]

how can I leve a file , after reading, in file app pro?
H

Mvg
william Windels

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 26-okt.-2010 om 22:59 heeft Yvonne Thomson  het volgende 
geschreven:

> 
> On 25/10/2010, at 8:59 PM, William Windels wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> I have installed dropbox on my iphone and it seems perfect accessible and 
>> works great together wit windows and mac.
>> 
>> But, I have discovered that the files on the dropbox on the iphone, are not 
>> readable when the iphone has no internet-connection.
>> I have set the cache memory to the max of 1 GB but , the dropbox is 2 or 
>> more GB so, perhaps not all is available on the iphone because of that.
> 
> The only way I've found to deal with this is to mark the files you want to 
> keep on the phone as a favourite. I'm not sure if you have to go into 
> favourites or not after you do this, but it'll then download the files to 
> your phone.
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Re: Editing loops in garageband 11?

2010-10-27 Thread Chris Moore
Ok I am still stuck.

I have selected a loop from the loop browser and pasted it to a track.  How do 
I then select this loop in the time line? It is at the beginning of the track.  
And when I do VO+CMD and shift, nothing happens.  I would like the ability to 
stretch loops, move loops and in some cases delete or insert loops.

I also played some drums into a track by using one of the drum kits.  I then 
tried to go to the edit window to edit some of the notes.  The view window was 
empty, How can I see and edit the notes?


Chris 
On 25 Oct 2010, at 22:48, Dean Hudson wrote:

> 
> I'll try to answer your questions below.
> On Oct 25, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
> 
>> Hi all.
>> I have now installed Garageband and it looks awesome. The longstanding bug 
>> where you couldn't pan a track using voiceover is at long last fixed, yay! 
>> You can now copy and paste loops in a project and actually know where they 
>> land in the timeline. Yay and double yay! The thing i can't understand is 
>> how i move, copy or stretch a loop so that it goes over several bars. Also i 
>> can't understand how i move the play head in beats rather than measures. I 
>> assume you can move the play head even down to tick level, but how?
>> Other than that, this seems fantastic! Thank you, Apple, thank you.
> 
> Select the loop, then use the "resize item" in vo.  The command is 
> (VO-cmd-shift).  THis will bring up a VO menu which will have an option for 
> "loop".  Press on this, and you should be able to stretch the loop. 
> To move the playhead by increments smaller then bar/beat, you need to zoom in 
> with GB.  There is a keyboard command for this, but I don't remember off 
> hand.  In any case, you can use the zoom slider.  Just interact, and move the 
> slider.  Keep moving it until you find the desired unit you wish to move the 
> playhead. 
>> /Krister
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re-editing loops in garage band

2010-10-27 Thread chad baker
Hi chris not sure but i'm having the same problem.
go to the time line group then it should list the instrument tracks then do vo 
command shift tilde it should bring up options.
also i am trying to find the groove match if its accessible to us and the flex 
time.

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Re: re-editing loops in garage band

2010-10-27 Thread Chris Moore
Ah it was the tilda I was not hitting!  Works great now, thanks!

Chris 
On 27 Oct 2010, at 09:56, chad baker wrote:

> Hi chris not sure but i'm having the same problem.
> go to the time line group then it should list the instrument tracks then do 
> vo command shift tilde it should bring up options.
> also i am trying to find the groove match if its accessible to us and the 
> flex time.
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Re: Anyone tried to use itunes help lately?

2010-10-27 Thread Donna Goodin
Hmm, you're lucky. :)
Donna
On Oct 26, 2010, at 7:53 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> No not yet. I got it to work but maybe my system is behaving itself that day. 
> lol!
> 
> Take care.
> On Oct 26, 2010, at 4:31 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Just wondering if anyone's tried to use itunes help lately.  I tried 
>> searching to figure out the way to burtn a CD.  I got the itunes busy 
>> message, and it just kept repeating over and over again.  I was thinking of 
>> reporting this to accessibility, but thought I'd check to see if anyone else 
>> has experienced the problem.
>> Best,
>> Donna
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Re: Anyone tried to use itunes help lately?

2010-10-27 Thread Donna Goodin
Thanks, David.  I'll dash off a message to accessibility.  Even if everyone 
isn't having the problem, it's probably worth letting them know that some are, 
(assuming it's a VO issue).
Best,
Donna
On Oct 26, 2010, at 7:41 PM, David Taylor wrote:

> Same here. The initial help screen with the lessons on will display, but try 
> searching or using the shortcut keys option in the menu and it gets very busy!
> 
> Cheers
> Dave
> 
> On 27 Oct 2010, at 00:31, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Just wondering if anyone's tried to use itunes help lately.  I tried 
>> searching to figure out the way to burtn a CD.  I got the itunes busy 
>> message, and it just kept repeating over and over again.  I was thinking of 
>> reporting this to accessibility, but thought I'd check to see if anyone else 
>> has experienced the problem.
>> Best,
>> Donna
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Re: 64 bit or 32 bit Mac bootstrapped with W7

2010-10-27 Thread Thuy
I don't think the question is whether the Mac hardware is capable of
running 64 bit win7, I think I triggered the original concern by
telling her that the win7 os would need to be 64 bit in order to make
use of the full 8 gigs of RAM. Thus the issue is whether she has 64
bit version of Win7 installed on her bootcamp drive and if she is
running 64 bit JAWS and any other applications on the Windows OS?
Cheers

Thuy



On 23/10/2010, LaMcAs  wrote:
> Hello list
>
>
>
> This is more for a friend but also for clarification.
>
>
>
> She has a Mac Book with 8gb RAM and has W7 Boot Strapped on it.
>
>
>
> So what bit is the Apple Motherboard 32 bit or 64 bit?
>
>
>
> I would hope that as it has 8gb Ram it would be 64 bit.
>
>
>
> She seems to think she is running W7 H P 32 bit - surely if this is a 64-bit
> motherboard it wont allow her to run W7 32-bit?
>
>
>
> I'm not clued up on the Mac at all so asking for clarification on all this,
> does what I'm suggesting make sense?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for your input
>
>
>
>
>
> HTH
>
>
>
> Larry & Elliot GD
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Re: Advice for purchasing a New IMac

2010-10-27 Thread Nektarios Mallas
I know. You have to work with the site a little, but the program works well and 
the results are 
Nektarios.
excellent. 
On Oct 27, 2010, at 6:59 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:

> nice website, but any attempt to shop there results in an image asking me to 
> select my region and then I get nothing. I hate it when they use flash to map 
> an image.
> 
> -Eric
> 
> On Oct 26, 2010, at 8:40 PM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
> 
>> Hello there.
>> Fine reader express for the mac works very well and the recognition engine 
>> is one of the best. 
>> They have a trial copy that you can test with your mac.
>> goto.
>> www.abbyy.com 
>> 
>> Later.
>> 
>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 4:49 AM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>> 
>>> well,
>>> I am not sure about the accessible scanner software. however, you can do 
>>> most of your word processing on the mac. I didn't know that microsoft 
>>> office was available for the mac. The one thing I can tell you is that the 
>>> mac is not a respectable part of the marketplace and a lot of blind people 
>>> who use computers also like the mac (those that have one anyway). 
>>> 
>>> I don't use windows here as I don't have the funds to get the accessibility 
>>> software. I haven't tried looking around for good OCR software yet (but I 
>>> do see a need for it). I may have to have someone help me bring my windows 
>>> box back up and install NVDA and see what I can do with it. there's plenty 
>>> of cheap software for the windows PC, but like anything else, it requires 
>>> funds I don't currently have.
>>> 
>>> -Eric
>>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2010, at 6:40 PM, Sharon Ballantyne wrote:
>>> 
 Hello all,
 
 I have not used the mac computer systems in about fifteen years but am 
 making the final decisions for my purchase of an IMac. Does anyone have 
 advice. I am a totally blind user. I have decided it will be most useful 
 to bootcamp my computer so as to have scanning capabilities. I am told 
 there is no accessible software on the Mac for my scanning needs? I ahve 
 been using kerzweil. Right now I am planning to go with Freedom 
 Scientific's openbook and the Freedom Scientific Pearl which is portable 
 and uses a camera rather than a flat bed scanner. Before I make that 
 commitment I want to be sure there is nothing out there for the Mac.
 
 I am planning to use iwork but there have been some suggestions I go with 
 Microsoft for Mac. I currently use Jaws 11 on a windows 7 with Microsoft 
 office 2007.
 
 My primary uses on the computer are: word processing, excel, e-mail and 
 internet searches as well as scanning outlined above. I have no technical 
 background.
 
 It was suggested I get 500 gb and a separate 500 gb external drive for 
 backup rather than the 1 terabite.
 If anyone has any advice to throw in before I make the final purchase 
 decisions, that would be great.
 
 E-mail off list can be sent to:
 sbal...@nexicom.net
 
 Thank-you,
 Sharon in Canada
 
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Any online help for Garageband available?

2010-10-27 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi,
I'm trying to figure out the ins and outs of Garageband and how to do various 
things in it, and also find out the limits for what works and what does not for 
us blind folks, however i have a problem: When i open the Garageband 11 help, 
the only thing that happens is that a page comes up that says "fetching latest 
help" and nothing more. This is probably because the Swedish help for 
Garageband isn't available yet, so i wonder is there an english help page 
available online somewhere, if so i would be very greatful if someone could 
please provide the link for it.
TIA
/Krister

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Skype success.

2010-10-27 Thread Nektarios Mallas
Hi there! 
I managed to get Skype working perfectly. 
I did uninstall Skype completely, installed an earlier version, connected to 
server, and then updated Skype from there. All was fine. 
I also installed growl, and, for the most part, it works ok. 

I love my mac.
Nektarios.

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braille embossers?

2010-10-27 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi guys,  just curious what do you think is the best most compatible embosser 
to get for a mac user?  Index is king here, and there is Ibraille, but my 
feeling is that is a week solution.  I'd rather teach louis and whatever 
current embossers work best.

Appreciate any opinions and experiences you can share.

Thanks,


Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in person,
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re-garage band help

2010-10-27 Thread chad baker
Hi does anyone where i can download the garage band manual cannot find it?
thanks

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Re: Skype success.

2010-10-27 Thread Eric Oyen
have you poked around inside the growl configuration frame for Skype? you can 
add a growl notification for initial contact (message). then enable it. you'll 
find that chats are suddenly readable without you having to screen review them 
every time.

btw, if you want to add me, I am known by technomage-hawke

-Eric

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> Hi there! 
> I managed to get Skype working perfectly. 
> I did uninstall Skype completely, installed an earlier version, connected to 
> server, and then updated Skype from there. All was fine. 
> I also installed growl, and, for the most part, it works ok. 
> 
> I love my mac.
> Nektarios.
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Re: braille embossers?

2010-10-27 Thread ISAAC OBIE

Hi ERik,
Why do you think the Index would be a weak solution? I've no plans just yet 
to use my VErsabraille duo. It has parallel and I believe serial ports. the 
Index would need usb ports to work with the mac. What're you thinking 
besides working with Louis?

Isaac
- Original Message - 
From: "erik burggraaf" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 7:21 AM
Subject: braille embossers?


Hi guys,  just curious what do you think is the best most compatible 
embosser to get for a mac user?  Index is king here, and there is 
Ibraille, but my feeling is that is a week solution.  I'd rather teach 
louis and whatever current embossers work best.


Appreciate any opinions and experiences you can share.

Thanks,


Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in 
person,

1-888-255-5194
http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

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Re: getting preferences menus to open after finding them with mouse

2010-10-27 Thread Justin Thornton
try this
after you find the menu and press VO shift space and find the preffs options 
and press enter or VO space on it
VO might say selecting/deselecting preffs
then use the window chooser when the preffs are selected
this may help
thanks
On Oct 26, 2010, at 8:15 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:

> The few times I've dne this, pressing VO shift space has worked.
> On Oct 26, 2010, at 12:04 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
> 
>> subject line almost says it all.  I can find the special preference menus of 
>> both Drop Box and the Type writer keyboard, but, can't open them.  Any 
>> suggestions?  Tried using the return key, VO+space, just space and mouse 
>> clicking.  No luck.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely, 
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype Name:
>> barefootedray
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Re: Macs and Rehab agenciesRe: Microsoft Office 2011 period

2010-10-27 Thread Joshua Loya
It is a power house. I am, among other things, a musician. One of the reasons 
for the increased hardware specs are so that I can effectively run Pro Tools 
once I am up to the task. I imagine I'll have to spring for PT myself, though.


On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:46 PM, Cheree Heppe wrote:

> Cheree Heppe here:
> 
> Powerful!
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Cheree Heppe
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Joshua Loya" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 22:34
> Subject: Re: Macs and Rehab agenciesRe: Microsoft Office 2011 period
> 
> 
> I will outline my strategy in a later email. As far as the particular Mac I 
> have...
> 
> 15" MacBook Pro w/ I7 processor and 8 GB RAM and 7200 RPM 500 GB hard drive
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 26, 2010, at 9:55 PM, "Cheree Heppe"  wrote:
> 
>> Cheree Heppe here:
>> 
>> Way to go!!  Maybe you should describe your strategies.  A lot of blind 
>> people I've spoken with want to migrate.
>> 
>> Is this the latest Air incarnation that just came out?  I just saw it.  It's 
>> really enhanced.
>> 
>> Oh, why couldn't I be rich instead of so good looking?  (smile)
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Cheree Heppe
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Joshua Loya" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 21:26
>> Subject: Macs and Rehab agenciesRe: Microsoft Office 2011 period
>> 
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> I suppose I should count myself very fortunate. It took a lot of work on my 
>> part, but I managed to convince my Rehab counselor here in San Diego that a 
>> Mac was the best option for a new laptop for yours truly. I started the 
>> process in March, and I got my Macbook Pro just last week. It did help, of 
>> course, that I was able to demonstrate that I had work opportunities with 
>> people and organizations that were primarily using Macs.
>> 
>> -Joshua
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 26, 2010, at 8:59 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Scott:
>>> Denver Co, home of the lousy broncos and the lousier rehab department.  But 
>>> hey, we do have some good computers here, and the best ones are still the 
>>> Macs.:)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Carolyn Haas
>>> chaas0...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2010, at 5:15 PM, Scott Ford wrote:
>>> 
 Hello,
 May I as where you live?  
 Scott
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Haas
 Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:38 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Cc: Carolyn Haas
 Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 period
 
 Heather:  I share your prospective.  I just met with a rehab counsellor who
 insists that there's really no place for the Mac in the work world.  (she
 also insists that since I'm doing ok with my Mac, I don't need a braille
 display.  Guess that's what I get for trying topfunction and be a part of a
 new solution.:)
 
 This counsellor actually suggested I might want to move somewhere where 
 they
 have the money and clientele to afford to keep up with the new 
 technologies.
 She also basically said no one is going to pay me to do this kind of
 exploration of helping discover and working toward of improvement of
 alternative technologies.  So, I feel more and more like it's mac-vs-pc, 
 and
 conform to the old ways, or you're on your own.  Sorry for venting. Thanks
 for reading.
 
 
 Carolyn Haas
 chaas0...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Oct 26, 2010, at 3:12 PM, heather kd5cbl wrote:
 
> Bill is responsible for that robot they call narrator and he claims
 windows is accessible.  While our friends at Apple, actually have a real
 screenreader built in to their system.  So, Bill is not doing anyone any
 favors by making us, windows users,  go out an by screenreaders worth more
 than their pc computers.  I want to put a blind fold over his eyes and make
 him use his own computer with just narrator, I am sure he would not get 
 very
 far!  Also, anyone who has to use word 2010 with jaws, has to by another 
 msa
 or their job has too.  And the mac users with voiceover, cant use it at 
 all.
 So he is an easy target.  Otherwise, he would have wised up a long time ago
 and had his own built in speech for windows but, he just does not care.  I
 am starting to use open office and pages more and the msword does not 
 matter
 that much anymore.  Heather 
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Re: braille embossers?

2010-10-27 Thread Justin Thornton
hi
I have a versapoint dou embosser
I would love to know how to use this with the mac
it has serial and parallel ports I believe
not sure at all where to go from here I know it works just fine, just need to 
knonw what to configure and what software to use with it
thanks for helping can not wait to try it
On Oct 27, 2010, at 7:42 AM, ISAAC OBIE wrote:

> Hi ERik,
> Why do you think the Index would be a weak solution? I've no plans just yet 
> to use my VErsabraille duo. It has parallel and I believe serial ports. the 
> Index would need usb ports to work with the mac. What're you thinking besides 
> working with Louis?
> Isaac
> - Original Message - From: "erik burggraaf" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 7:21 AM
> Subject: braille embossers?
> 
> 
>> Hi guys,  just curious what do you think is the best most compatible 
>> embosser to get for a mac user?  Index is king here, and there is Ibraille, 
>> but my feeling is that is a week solution.  I'd rather teach louis and 
>> whatever current embossers work best.
>> 
>> Appreciate any opinions and experiences you can share.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> User support consultant,
>> One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in 
>> person,
>> 1-888-255-5194
>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
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Re: Macs and Rehab agenciesRe: Microsoft Office 2011 period

2010-10-27 Thread Joshua Loya
It wasn't easy. Towards the end of the process, wen I thought everything had 
ben settled, my counselor spoke to somebody in the AT industry who told him 
that very few blind people use Macs and that they're not particularly 
accessible. It took about twenty minutes on the phone to set him straight. 
people whose livelihood depends on the AT industry staying pretty much as it 
has been for the last twenty years are scared, and it seems they will do some 
amazing things to protect their jobs.

On Oct 26, 2010, at 11:48 PM, Rob Lambert wrote:

> I just wanted to say I think it's wonderful that rehab agencies are finally 
> getting away from Windows, and are opening up to the Mac. This was needed for 
> the past three years.
> 
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> I have one word for that: SWEET!
> 
> I wish I had one of those.
> 
> -Eric
> 
> On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:34 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:
> 
> > I will outline my strategy in a later email. As far as the particular Mac I 
> > have...
> >
> > 15" MacBook Pro w/ I7 processor and 8 GB RAM and 7200 RPM 500 GB hard drive
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
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Re: Skype success.

2010-10-27 Thread Joshua Loya
What version of Skype did you install? I have been having trouble with the most 
recent version. It is the first version of Skype I have installed on my Mac, as 
I haven't had it for very long. I'm wondering if following your example will 
yield better results.

-Joshua
On Oct 27, 2010, at 4:17 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:

> Hi there! 
> I managed to get Skype working perfectly. 
> I did uninstall Skype completely, installed an earlier version, connected to 
> server, and then updated Skype from there. All was fine. 
> I also installed growl, and, for the most part, it works ok. 
> 
> I love my mac.
> Nektarios.
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VO continually crashing on application support page

2010-10-27 Thread Joshua Loya
Hello,
I went to
http://www.apple.com/accessibility
I then clicked on application support, in order to look at the list of VO 
compatible applicaitons. As soon as that page loads, VO keeps crashing, and I 
have to quit Safari from the dock. Is anyone else having this problem? Any 
solutions?

Thanks,
Joshua

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facetime on mac

2010-10-27 Thread Peter Durieux
Hi folks,

I just downloaded and installed facetime for mac on my Imac.
If I launch the app, Voice Over announces that there are no windows.
Looking in the menus, a lot of them are dimmed. So can't take a look at the 
prefs for example.
>From what I have red from other voice over users, it seems there are some text 
>boxes to fill in your username and password and a log in button.
What did I miss? :)

Tia & kr

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Bible Software

2010-10-27 Thread Joshua Loya
Hi,
Can anyone recommend some good Mac Bible software? I am aware that Mac Sword is 
supposed to work fairly well, but I would like to find software that includes 
the NIV, and it does not appear that there are any plans for an NIV module to 
be developed for Mac Sword. I found some information on Logos, but I could not 
find a demo anywhere. Also, I installed a demo of Accordance,but it looks as if 
it has a long way to go regarding accessibility.

Thanks,
Joshua

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Re: Skype success.

2010-10-27 Thread Nektarios Mallas
What I did was. 
I got the earlier version of Skype for september 2009. You can get that at.
www.mac.oldapps.com 
First, Uninstall Skype completely. Move the Skype application to the trash, 
delete the Skype folder from your /home/library and the relevant Skype entry 
from the prefferences. 
Then install that earlier version and logon to Skype. hen update from there. 

Nektarios.

On Oct 27, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:

> What version of Skype did you install? I have been having trouble with the 
> most recent version. It is the first version of Skype I have installed on my 
> Mac, as I haven't had it for very long. I'm wondering if following your 
> example will yield better results.
> 
> -Joshua
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 4:17 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
> 
>> Hi there! 
>> I managed to get Skype working perfectly. 
>> I did uninstall Skype completely, installed an earlier version, connected to 
>> server, and then updated Skype from there. All was fine. 
>> I also installed growl, and, for the most part, it works ok. 
>> 
>> I love my mac.
>> Nektarios.
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Re: braille embossers?

2010-10-27 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi Isaac,

I'm particularly thinking of IBraille being a week solution.  It hasn't been 
touched in years and I hate to ask clients to pour thousands of dollars into it.

I'm not really happy with the index lines, but maybe that is only to do with 
all the power supplies I've seen fail and all the spurious paper jams I've had 
to troubleshoot.  Maybe if I spend enough time with any of these products I'll 
learn every bad thing about them and mistrust them all.  Everyone just gets 
index here because it's funded and that's it, but I think I'd go with something 
else for my own needs.  The everest isn't bad, but I wouldn't want a basic-d.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in person,
1-888-255-5194
http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2010-10-27, at 7:42 AM, ISAAC OBIE wrote:

> Hi ERik,
> Why do you think the Index would be a weak solution? I've no plans just yet 
> to use my VErsabraille duo. It has parallel and I believe serial ports. the 
> Index would need usb ports to work with the mac. What're you thinking besides 
> working with Louis?
> Isaac
> - Original Message - From: "erik burggraaf" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 7:21 AM
> Subject: braille embossers?
> 
> 
>> Hi guys,  just curious what do you think is the best most compatible 
>> embosser to get for a mac user?  Index is king here, and there is Ibraille, 
>> but my feeling is that is a week solution.  I'd rather teach louis and 
>> whatever current embossers work best.
>> 
>> Appreciate any opinions and experiences you can share.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> Erik Burggraaf
>> User support consultant,
>> One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in 
>> person,
>> 1-888-255-5194
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Re: facetime on mac update

2010-10-27 Thread Charlie Doremus
If you are not running snowy you are out of gas. Facetime will not play with
the other cats.

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Peter Durieux  wrote:

> Hi folks again,
>
> Just installed facetime on my macbook and it works there.
> Strange that it will not on my Imac.
> Any suggestions should be very appreciated.
>
> kr
>
> -Peter
>
> Op 27-okt-2010, om 16:39 heeft Peter Durieux het volgende geschreven:
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I just downloaded and installed facetime for mac on my Imac.
> > If I launch the app, Voice Over announces that there are no windows.
> > Looking in the menus, a lot of them are dimmed. So can't take a look at
> the prefs for example.
> > From what I have red from other voice over users, it seems there are some
> text boxes to fill in your username and password and a log in button.
> > What did I miss? :)
> >
> > Tia & kr
> >
> > -Peter
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Re: facetime on mac update

2010-10-27 Thread Peter Durieux
Hi,

It's a brand new Imac 27 inch with sl and all updates installed.
The one different thing between my macbook and Imac what I can think of is that 
on my Imac growl isn't installed.
Maybe this is dependencies?

kr

-Peter

Op 27-okt-2010, om 19:56 heeft Charlie Doremus het volgende geschreven:

> If you are not running snowy you are out of gas. Facetime will not play with 
> the other cats. 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Peter Durieux  wrote:
> Hi folks again,
> 
> Just installed facetime on my macbook and it works there.
> Strange that it will not on my Imac.
> Any suggestions should be very appreciated.
> 
> kr
> 
> -Peter
> 
> Op 27-okt-2010, om 16:39 heeft Peter Durieux het volgende geschreven:
> 
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I just downloaded and installed facetime for mac on my Imac.
> > If I launch the app, Voice Over announces that there are no windows.
> > Looking in the menus, a lot of them are dimmed. So can't take a look at the 
> > prefs for example.
> > From what I have red from other voice over users, it seems there are some 
> > text boxes to fill in your username and password and a log in button.
> > What did I miss? :)
> >
> > Tia & kr
> >
> > -Peter
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Re: Microsoft Office 2011 period

2010-10-27 Thread Scott Granados
Well, with the budget cuts and the ressession are there any good well staffed 
rehab departments?  Even years ago the rehab department in CT was substandard.  
They had excelent education services for school children but once you got out 
you were in the soup pretty quickly.


On Oct 26, 2010, at 8:59 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:

> Hi Scott:
> Denver Co, home of the lousy broncos and the lousier rehab department.  But 
> hey, we do have some good computers here, and the best ones are still the 
> Macs.:)
> 
> 
> Carolyn Haas
> chaas0...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 26, 2010, at 5:15 PM, Scott Ford wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>>  May I as where you live?  
>> Scott
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Haas
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:38 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: Carolyn Haas
>> Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 period
>> 
>> Heather:  I share your prospective.  I just met with a rehab counsellor who
>> insists that there's really no place for the Mac in the work world.  (she
>> also insists that since I'm doing ok with my Mac, I don't need a braille
>> display.  Guess that's what I get for trying topfunction and be a part of a
>> new solution.:)
>> 
>> This counsellor actually suggested I might want to move somewhere where they
>> have the money and clientele to afford to keep up with the new technologies.
>> She also basically said no one is going to pay me to do this kind of
>> exploration of helping discover and working toward of improvement of
>> alternative technologies.  So, I feel more and more like it's mac-vs-pc, and
>> conform to the old ways, or you're on your own.  Sorry for venting. Thanks
>> for reading.
>> 
>> 
>> Carolyn Haas
>> chaas0...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 26, 2010, at 3:12 PM, heather kd5cbl wrote:
>> 
>>> Bill is responsible for that robot they call narrator and he claims
>> windows is accessible.  While our friends at Apple, actually have a real
>> screenreader built in to their system.  So, Bill is not doing anyone any
>> favors by making us, windows users,  go out an by screenreaders worth more
>> than their pc computers.  I want to put a blind fold over his eyes and make
>> him use his own computer with just narrator, I am sure he would not get very
>> far!  Also, anyone who has to use word 2010 with jaws, has to by another msa
>> or their job has too.  And the mac users with voiceover, cant use it at all.
>> So he is an easy target.  Otherwise, he would have wised up a long time ago
>> and had his own built in speech for windows but, he just does not care.  I
>> am starting to use open office and pages more and the msword does not matter
>> that much anymore.  Heather 
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Remove FaceTime for Mac beta?

2010-10-27 Thread Martin Kirchner
Hi folks,

any idea how I may remove FaceTime Beta from my Mac? It isn't donw if you drag 
FaceTime application to trash. Even you're disconnected from FaceTime service 
FaceTime assumes it is running, so there's no chance to finally kick it off, 
even if it is located on trash. a bit crazy cause there's no login icon shown 
on login screen that could prevent FaceTime application from complete deletion.

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Re: Remove FaceTime for Mac beta?

2010-10-27 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
if it's in the dock, try force quitting it. then trash it.  I had the same 
problem with DropBox; the app wouldn't shut down or trash until I force quit 
(quitted?) it.


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Re: Macs and Rehab agenciesRe: Microsoft Office 2011 period

2010-10-27 Thread Scott Granados
It's a pretty great setup you have there.  I have the same basic setup but on 
the 17 inch with the 500GB SSD drive instead of the 7200 RPM traditional.


Being able to run virtual machines like that is the bees knees.

I also find cracking WEP keys is pretty easy.:)  Love having that many cores.


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> I have one word for that: SWEET!
> 
> I wish I had one of those.
> 
> -Eric
> 
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>> I will outline my strategy in a later email. As far as the particular Mac I 
>> have...
>> 
>> 15" MacBook Pro w/ I7 processor and 8 GB RAM and 7200 RPM 500 GB hard drive
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: VO continually crashing on application support page

2010-10-27 Thread Scott Granados
Download webkit.  The included safari is buggy.

The latest webkit definitely helps improve VO stability on web pages.



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> Hello,
> I went to
> http://www.apple.com/accessibility
> I then clicked on application support, in order to look at the list of VO 
> compatible applicaitons. As soon as that page loads, VO keeps crashing, and I 
> have to quit Safari from the dock. Is anyone else having this problem? Any 
> solutions?
> 
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concerning recent skype conversations

2010-10-27 Thread John D. Lipsey
Hi all:

I'm not particularly following many threads on the list at present, but the 
issue of skype accessibility seems to have cropped up a bit here and there.  
This has me curious.  I am, to my knowledge, running the latest version of 
skype, and not having any issues with it.  What accessibility issues are you 
noticing?  Are these issues before or after you log into skype itself?

Sorry if this was all brought up before, and if those of you with issues wish 
to write me off-list, that's fine too.

Thanks.

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Re: facetime on mac update

2010-10-27 Thread Charlie Doremus
I'm stumped, should work. Keep in mind facetime is in bata testing so I
suggest calling Apple Care since your machine is new to see what they have
to say.

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> Hi,
>
> It's a brand new Imac 27 inch with sl and all updates installed.
> The one different thing between my macbook and Imac what I can think of is
> that on my Imac growl isn't installed.
> Maybe this is dependencies?
>
> kr
>
> -Peter
>
> Op 27-okt-2010, om 19:56 heeft Charlie Doremus het volgende geschreven:
>
> If you are not running snowy you are out of gas. Facetime will not play
> with the other cats.
>
> On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Peter Durieux wrote:
>
>> Hi folks again,
>>
>> Just installed facetime on my macbook and it works there.
>> Strange that it will not on my Imac.
>> Any suggestions should be very appreciated.
>>
>> kr
>>
>> -Peter
>>
>> Op 27-okt-2010, om 16:39 heeft Peter Durieux het volgende geschreven:
>>
>> > Hi folks,
>> >
>> > I just downloaded and installed facetime for mac on my Imac.
>> > If I launch the app, Voice Over announces that there are no windows.
>> > Looking in the menus, a lot of them are dimmed. So can't take a look at
>> the prefs for example.
>> > From what I have red from other voice over users, it seems there are
>> some text boxes to fill in your username and password and a log in button.
>> > What did I miss? :)
>> >
>> > Tia & kr
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Re: Skype success.

2010-10-27 Thread Joshua Loya
Thanks. That worked smashingly. The link you gave didn't work, but I was able 
to find the correct site by googling old Mac aps. I followed your instructions, 
and even after the update, Skype is working beautifully. Now, if I can only 
figure out how to make a test call...

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> What I did was. 
> I got the earlier version of Skype for september 2009. You can get that at.
> www.mac.oldapps.com 
> First, Uninstall Skype completely. Move the Skype application to the trash, 
> delete the Skype folder from your /home/library and the relevant Skype entry 
> from the prefferences. 
> Then install that earlier version and logon to Skype. hen update from there. 
> 
> Nektarios.
> 
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:
> 
>> What version of Skype did you install? I have been having trouble with the 
>> most recent version. It is the first version of Skype I have installed on my 
>> Mac, as I haven't had it for very long. I'm wondering if following your 
>> example will yield better results.
>> 
>> -Joshua
>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 4:17 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there! 
>>> I managed to get Skype working perfectly. 
>>> I did uninstall Skype completely, installed an earlier version, connected 
>>> to server, and then updated Skype from there. All was fine. 
>>> I also installed growl, and, for the most part, it works ok. 
>>> 
>>> I love my mac.
>>> Nektarios.
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Re: Bible Software

2010-10-27 Thread Joshua Loya
No worries. I think I might give Mac Sword a try. Perhaps I can prevail upon 
Zondervan to release an NIV module. At least it's available via 
www.biblegateway.com and www.blueletterbible.org.

-Joshua
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> oh sorry, I see this message now, and you said that you know about mac sword. 
> woops.
> 
> GF
> 
> 
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> 
>> Hi,
>> Can anyone recommend some good Mac Bible software? I am aware that Mac Sword 
>> is supposed to work fairly well, but I would like to find software that 
>> includes the NIV, and it does not appear that there are any plans for an NIV 
>> module to be developed for Mac Sword. I found some information on Logos, but 
>> I could not find a demo anywhere. Also, I installed a demo of Accordance,but 
>> it looks as if it has a long way to go regarding accessibility.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Joshua
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How to get to your gmail link on the Internet usin vo.

2010-10-27 Thread Chenelle Hancock


Sent from my iPhonehi everyone: 
I wanted to know how I would get to my gmail link after getting on the google 
home page?.
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Re: MP3 Books on the iPod Touch and iTunes

2010-10-27 Thread Joshua Loya
It doesn't have anything to do with the new version of iTunes. Make sure that 
you have correctly edited the tag information of the files. Sometimes it can be 
a bit tedious, but if you're not going to convert the files to .m4b, double 
checking the tag information is your best bet.

Hope that helps,
Joshua
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> 
> We have discussed this here before, but I'm having some issues with it.  I 
> want to play a folder of MP3 files, which are ripped from CD audiobooks on my 
> iPod.  I know that I must add the files to my iTunes library.  I thin find 
> them in iTunes, select them all, and do VO/shift/M and chose get info.  In 
> there I change the genre to audiobook   and then go to the options tab 
> and change it to audiobook there as well.  I choose not to include while 
> shuffling.  The book then shows up in the books portion of iTunes, but the 
> title became Unknown and the MP3 files were all in the wrong order.  
> 
> What am I doing wrong here?  Does it have something to do with the new 
> version of iTunes?  What are the check boxes for that are now present just 
> before the track titles?  
> 
> TIA for any help here.  I really want to play these books on my Touch, but it 
> is a pain when they are out of order.  Audible books work just fine, however.
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Re: Bible Software

2010-10-27 Thread Joshua Loya
Last time I checked, Mac Sword only has Protestant Canon books, but the web 
site mentioned that they are working on adding books from other Canon, such as 
those used by Roman Catholics. The web site stated that this shortcoming has 
nothing to do with theology. It is more of a programming issue.

-Joshua


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> Hi,
> Does Macsword have the King James Catholic Bible? Or is it another Bible? I 
> hope this isn't too off-topic.
> Thanks,
> Courtney
> 
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> On Oct 27, 2010, at 12:17 PM, Goldfinga Productions wrote:
> 
>> oh sorry, I see this message now, and you said that you know about mac 
>> sword. woops.
>> 
>> GF
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 10:42 AM, Joshua Loya wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Can anyone recommend some good Mac Bible software? I am aware that Mac 
>>> Sword is supposed to work fairly well, but I would like to find software 
>>> that includes the NIV, and it does not appear that there are any plans for 
>>> an NIV module to be developed for Mac Sword. I found some information on 
>>> Logos, but I could not find a demo anywhere. Also, I installed a demo of 
>>> Accordance,but it looks as if it has a long way to go regarding 
>>> accessibility.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Joshua
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Re: concerning recent skype conversations

2010-10-27 Thread Joshua Loya
I installed Skype, and when I logged in for the first time, I got an image 
which VO could not read. When I uninstalled the latest version, and install an 
earlier one, I was able to sign in with no difficulty. I then updated the 
application from within Skype, and I have had no problems. It appears to have 
to do with logging in to Skype for the first time, or at least it did for me.

-Joshua
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> Hi all:
> 
> I'm not particularly following many threads on the list at present, but the 
> issue of skype accessibility seems to have cropped up a bit here and there.  
> This has me curious.  I am, to my knowledge, running the latest version of 
> skype, and not having any issues with it.  What accessibility issues are you 
> noticing?  Are these issues before or after you log into skype itself?
> 
> Sorry if this was all brought up before, and if those of you with issues wish 
> to write me off-list, that's fine too.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: VO continually crashing on application support page

2010-10-27 Thread Joshua Loya
I'll give that a shot. Thanks. Where would I download it?
On Oct 27, 2010, at 12:01 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Download webkit.  The included safari is buggy.
> 
> The latest webkit definitely helps improve VO stability on web pages.
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Joshua Loya wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> I went to
>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility
>> I then clicked on application support, in order to look at the list of VO 
>> compatible applicaitons. As soon as that page loads, VO keeps crashing, and 
>> I have to quit Safari from the dock. Is anyone else having this problem? Any 
>> solutions?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Joshua
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Re: How to get to your gmail link on the Internet usin vo.

2010-10-27 Thread Joshua Loya
There is a GMail link on the main Google page. Alternatively, you can go to
www.gmail.com

Hope that helps,
Joshua
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Text Edit file name

2010-10-27 Thread Linda Adams
Hi folks,

I wanted to change the name of a text edit file.  I used the save as feature, 
entered the new name and that worked fine.  I then had two   files, the new one 
and  the old file with the old name which I sent to trash.  Is there a way to 
simply change the file name without creating a new file?
I did a Google search but didn't find anything that seemed to cover this.

Tia 
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Re: Text Edit file name

2010-10-27 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
You can do it in finger; navigate to the file, press enter, then change the 
name.  Done. :)


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Re: Text Edit file name

2010-10-27 Thread Joshua Loya
In the Finder, select the file. THen, press enter on it, and you should be in 
an edit box which contains the name of the file. Alternatively, rename may be 
one of the options if you bring up a context menu by pressing VO + shift + M.
Hope that helps,
Joshua
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> Hi folks,
> 
> I wanted to change the name of a text edit file.  I used the save as feature, 
> entered the new name and that worked fine.  I then had two   files, the new 
> one and  the old file with the old name which I sent to trash.  Is there a 
> way to simply change the file name without creating a new file?
> I did a Google search but didn't find anything that seemed to cover this.
> 
> Tia 
> Linda
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Re: Skype success.

2010-10-27 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Go to your table of contacts, interact until you find Skype Test call.  Stop 
interacting, then press shift control M and go down with your arrow and call 
should be the first option.  Hope that's OK.

Kawal.

On 27 Oct 2010, at 21:03, Joshua Loya wrote:

> Thanks. That worked smashingly. The link you gave didn't work, but I was able 
> to find the correct site by googling old Mac aps. I followed your 
> instructions, and even after the update, Skype is working beautifully. Now, 
> if I can only figure out how to make a test call...
> 
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 8:00 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
> 
>> What I did was. 
>> I got the earlier version of Skype for september 2009. You can get that at.
>> www.mac.oldapps.com 
>> First, Uninstall Skype completely. Move the Skype application to the trash, 
>> delete the Skype folder from your /home/library and the relevant Skype entry 
>> from the prefferences. 
>> Then install that earlier version and logon to Skype. hen update from there. 
>> 
>> Nektarios.
>> 
>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:
>> 
>>> What version of Skype did you install? I have been having trouble with the 
>>> most recent version. It is the first version of Skype I have installed on 
>>> my Mac, as I haven't had it for very long. I'm wondering if following your 
>>> example will yield better results.
>>> 
>>> -Joshua
>>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 4:17 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>>> 
 Hi there! 
 I managed to get Skype working perfectly. 
 I did uninstall Skype completely, installed an earlier version, connected 
 to server, and then updated Skype from there. All was fine. 
 I also installed growl, and, for the most part, it works ok. 
 
 I love my mac.
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Re: Skype success.

2010-10-27 Thread Nektarios Mallas
Oh, I am sorry about the wrong link. I gave it from memory and apparently it 
was not correct.
Glad you found the program though. 
Now when you sign in, look for the contacts table with VO and the arrow keys 
and interact with it. The test cal account must be there somewhere. 
When you find it, press option + return to make a call. 

Nektarios.

On Oct 27, 2010, at 11:03 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:

> Thanks. That worked smashingly. The link you gave didn't work, but I was able 
> to find the correct site by googling old Mac aps. I followed your 
> instructions, and even after the update, Skype is working beautifully. Now, 
> if I can only figure out how to make a test call...
> 
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 8:00 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
> 
>> What I did was. 
>> I got the earlier version of Skype for september 2009. You can get that at.
>> www.mac.oldapps.com 
>> First, Uninstall Skype completely. Move the Skype application to the trash, 
>> delete the Skype folder from your /home/library and the relevant Skype entry 
>> from the prefferences. 
>> Then install that earlier version and logon to Skype. hen update from there. 
>> 
>> Nektarios.
>> 
>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:
>> 
>>> What version of Skype did you install? I have been having trouble with the 
>>> most recent version. It is the first version of Skype I have installed on 
>>> my Mac, as I haven't had it for very long. I'm wondering if following your 
>>> example will yield better results.
>>> 
>>> -Joshua
>>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 4:17 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>>> 
 Hi there! 
 I managed to get Skype working perfectly. 
 I did uninstall Skype completely, installed an earlier version, connected 
 to server, and then updated Skype from there. All was fine. 
 I also installed growl, and, for the most part, it works ok. 
 
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Re: Bible Software

2010-10-27 Thread Joshua Loya
I sent Helen an email. Thanks for the info.

-Joshua
On Oct 27, 2010, at 10:14 AM, Chuck Reichel wrote:

> Hi
> Its never off topic if it runs on a mac!
> Every one that wants to have "Accordance" work on the Snow Leopard platform 
> please email  Helen A. Brown
> OakTree Software, Inc  Please..
> he...@accordancebible.com
> Here is contact info for Accordance bible...
> 
> Chuck:
> 
> We are still working on this, sorry, but we really are working on it so I 
> hope to have it working this summer or fall.
> 
> Helen
> 
> 
>> Dear Chuck,
>> 
>> I will forward your question to our general manager, Helen Brown.
>> 
>> Thank you for your question and for your support of Accordance.
>> 
>> Jackie
>> Jackie Fillion
>> Marketing Assistant
>> OakTree Software, Inc.
>> 498 Palm Springs Dr., Suite 100
>> Altamonte Springs, FL. 32701
>> Direct (407)339-6051
>> TOLL FREE Orders (877)339-5855
>> Fax (407) 339-9188
>> Email: jfill...@accordancebible.com
>> Website: www.Accordancebible.com
>> 
>> Please check our website for the latest sales and offers.  See our website 
>> home page under the News heading or go to 
>> http://www.accordancebible.com/about/news/index.php.
>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 12:42 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> Does Macsword have the King James Catholic Bible? Or is it another Bible? I 
>> hope this isn't too off-topic.
>> Thanks,
>> Courtney
>> 
>> Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays 
>> at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info
>> 
>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 12:17 PM, Goldfinga Productions wrote:
>> 
>>> oh sorry, I see this message now, and you said that you know about mac 
>>> sword. woops.
>>> 
>>> GF
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 10:42 AM, Joshua Loya wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 Can anyone recommend some good Mac Bible software? I am aware that Mac 
 Sword is supposed to work fairly well, but I would like to find software 
 that includes the NIV, and it does not appear that there are any plans for 
 an NIV module to be developed for Mac Sword. I found some information on 
 Logos, but I could not find a demo anywhere. Also, I installed a demo of 
 Accordance,but it looks as if it has a long way to go regarding 
 accessibility.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: Bible Software

2010-10-27 Thread Joshua Loya
Thanks for the tip. I'm looking for Bible software which allows me to access 
multiple translations and commentaries, so that I can compare what they have to 
say on different portions of Scripture. Quickverse is a good example of a 
Windows program that does what I want. Glad to know there are some good iOS 
options, though.

-Joshua
On Oct 27, 2010, at 8:54 AM, 504 area wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I am not sure how this would work on the Mac, as I use it on my phone
> - but the ap "verse Wise) which is the revised standard version is
> nice.  Complete with footnotes and the ability to bookmark.
> Navigation is easy
> 
> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/versewise-bible-revised-standard/id323637638?mt=8
> 
> Not sure about the niv, but you may want to check it out.  Price was
> under $10.00US I believe.
> 
> Julie
> 
> - Julie
> 
> On 10/27/10, Joshua Loya  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Can anyone recommend some good Mac Bible software? I am aware that Mac Sword
>> is supposed to work fairly well, but I would like to find software that
>> includes the NIV, and it does not appear that there are any plans for an NIV
>> module to be developed for Mac Sword. I found some information on Logos, but
>> I could not find a demo anywhere. Also, I installed a demo of Accordance,but
>> it looks as if it has a long way to go regarding accessibility.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Joshua
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Re: Text Edit file name

2010-10-27 Thread Linda Adams
Mark and Joshua,

Thanks.  What a simple solution.  I had already check the context menu and 
there was nothing there.
Linda

On Oct 27, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:

> In the Finder, select the file. THen, press enter on it, and you should be in 
> an edit box which contains the name of the file. Alternatively, rename may be 
> one of the options if you bring up a context menu by pressing VO + shift + M.
> Hope that helps,
> Joshua
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 1:49 PM, Linda Adams wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> I wanted to change the name of a text edit file.  I used the save as 
>> feature, entered the new name and that worked fine.  I then had two   files, 
>> the new one and  the old file with the old name which I sent to trash.  Is 
>> there a way to simply change the file name without creating a new file?
>> I did a Google search but didn't find anything that seemed to cover this.
>> 
>> Tia 
>> Linda
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Re: Skype success.

2010-10-27 Thread Joshua Loya
I found the contact list table, but only my Address book contacts are present. 
I recently started a brand new Skype account; it's been a long time since I 
started my first one. Is there something I have to do in order to verify my 
account in order to have Skype test call in my list of available contacts?
On Oct 27, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:

> Oh, I am sorry about the wrong link. I gave it from memory and apparently it 
> was not correct.
> Glad you found the program though. 
> Now when you sign in, look for the contacts table with VO and the arrow keys 
> and interact with it. The test cal account must be there somewhere. 
> When you find it, press option + return to make a call. 
> 
> Nektarios.
> 
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 11:03 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:
> 
>> Thanks. That worked smashingly. The link you gave didn't work, but I was 
>> able to find the correct site by googling old Mac aps. I followed your 
>> instructions, and even after the update, Skype is working beautifully. Now, 
>> if I can only figure out how to make a test call...
>> 
>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 8:00 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>> 
>>> What I did was. 
>>> I got the earlier version of Skype for september 2009. You can get that at.
>>> www.mac.oldapps.com 
>>> First, Uninstall Skype completely. Move the Skype application to the trash, 
>>> delete the Skype folder from your /home/library and the relevant Skype 
>>> entry from the prefferences. 
>>> Then install that earlier version and logon to Skype. hen update from 
>>> there. 
>>> 
>>> Nektarios.
>>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 5:25 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:
>>> 
 What version of Skype did you install? I have been having trouble with the 
 most recent version. It is the first version of Skype I have installed on 
 my Mac, as I haven't had it for very long. I'm wondering if following your 
 example will yield better results.
 
 -Joshua
 On Oct 27, 2010, at 4:17 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
 
> Hi there! 
> I managed to get Skype working perfectly. 
> I did uninstall Skype completely, installed an earlier version, connected 
> to server, and then updated Skype from there. All was fine. 
> I also installed growl, and, for the most part, it works ok. 
> 
> I love my mac.
> Nektarios.
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Re: Remove FaceTime for Mac beta?

2010-10-27 Thread Martin Kirchner
Mark,

On 27.10.2010, at 20:52, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:

> if it's in the dock, try force quitting it. then trash it.  I had the same 
> problem with DropBox; the app wouldn't shut down or trash until I force quit 
> (quitted?) it.
> 
Thanks for that great advice that had solve the problem.

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Re: VO continually crashing on application support page

2010-10-27 Thread Scott Granados
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On Oct 27, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:

> I'll give that a shot. Thanks. Where would I download it?
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 12:01 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Download webkit.  The included safari is buggy.
>> 
>> The latest webkit definitely helps improve VO stability on web pages.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Joshua Loya wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> I went to
>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility
>>> I then clicked on application support, in order to look at the list of VO 
>>> compatible applicaitons. As soon as that page loads, VO keeps crashing, and 
>>> I have to quit Safari from the dock. Is anyone else having this problem? 
>>> Any solutions?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Joshua
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Re: VO continually crashing on application support page

2010-10-27 Thread Joshua Loya
Thanks.

-Joshua
On Oct 27, 2010, at 2:29 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> webkit.org
> 
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:
> 
>> I'll give that a shot. Thanks. Where would I download it?
>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 12:01 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> Download webkit.  The included safari is buggy.
>>> 
>>> The latest webkit definitely helps improve VO stability on web pages.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Joshua Loya wrote:
>>> 
 Hello,
 I went to
 http://www.apple.com/accessibility
 I then clicked on application support, in order to look at the list of VO 
 compatible applicaitons. As soon as that page loads, VO keeps crashing, 
 and I have to quit Safari from the dock. Is anyone else having this 
 problem? Any solutions?
 
 Thanks,
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Re: scanner vs eye pal solo

2010-10-27 Thread Eric Oyen
Rose,
it helps to have messed with computer and electronics since being a kid. I am 
just 14 years behind you. I have been messing with computers and electronics 
since age 10 (my first computer was a put together kit called an Altairre). my 
first consumer electronic unit was an apple IIc. 

so, I've been around the scene for a very long time. :)

-Eric

On Oct 27, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Rosemary Gallagher wrote:

> hi, all. I am a fairly new mac user, although I am 59 and totally blind and 
> have been for 27 years. I never used a computer while I was working in the 
> 80's and tried out an old Apple in 1985 at Braille Institute. the point of 
> ths is that I am getting a device called the eye pal solo which uses a camera 
> to take a picture of printed material and then reads it. it works fairly well 
> since the scanner I have hooked up to minimac is so complicated that I 
> couldn't remember all the steps to make it work. so, the eye pal is a good 
> althernative for me. I am sure there is a web site for it, but am not sure. 
> this is still all new for me and I am somewhat intimidated by how radically 
> intelligent and computer savvy you all are. I had missed the boat, but am 
> swimming behind, trying to catch up.  Joy
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Re: scanner vs eye pal solo

2010-10-27 Thread Scott Granados
Oh man the Apple II line was a great learning tool.

I had the II E and learned a great deal from my experience, not all of which 
were legal by any sense of the imagination.  (bluebox anyone)  I miss the 6502 
assembler.:)

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> Rose,
> it helps to have messed with computer and electronics since being a kid. I am 
> just 14 years behind you. I have been messing with computers and electronics 
> since age 10 (my first computer was a put together kit called an Altairre). 
> my first consumer electronic unit was an apple IIc. 
> 
> so, I've been around the scene for a very long time. :)
> 
> -Eric
> 
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Rosemary Gallagher wrote:
> 
>> hi, all. I am a fairly new mac user, although I am 59 and totally blind and 
>> have been for 27 years. I never used a computer while I was working in the 
>> 80's and tried out an old Apple in 1985 at Braille Institute. the point of 
>> ths is that I am getting a device called the eye pal solo which uses a 
>> camera to take a picture of printed material and then reads it. it works 
>> fairly well since the scanner I have hooked up to minimac is so complicated 
>> that I couldn't remember all the steps to make it work. so, the eye pal is a 
>> good althernative for me. I am sure there is a web site for it, but am not 
>> sure. this is still all new for me and I am somewhat intimidated by how 
>> radically intelligent and computer savvy you all are. I had missed the boat, 
>> but am swimming behind, trying to catch up.  Joy
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How to turn your speech back on?.

2010-10-27 Thread Chenelle Hancock


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Re: Macs and Rehab agenciesRe: Microsoft Office 2011 period

2010-10-27 Thread Eric Oyen
be careful. some people don't like war drivers. :)

yeah, having a mainframe in your lap is definitely worth the money. I have a 
dual core desktop unit here and I really wish I had 6 more cores.

-Eric

On Oct 27, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

> It's a pretty great setup you have there.  I have the same basic setup but on 
> the 17 inch with the 500GB SSD drive instead of the 7200 RPM traditional.
> 
> 
> Being able to run virtual machines like that is the bees knees.
> 
> I also find cracking WEP keys is pretty easy.:)  Love having that many cores.
> 
> 
> On Oct 26, 2010, at 11:39 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
> 
>> I have one word for that: SWEET!
>> 
>> I wish I had one of those.
>> 
>> -Eric
>> 
>> On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:34 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:
>> 
>>> I will outline my strategy in a later email. As far as the particular Mac I 
>>> have...
>>> 
>>> 15" MacBook Pro w/ I7 processor and 8 GB RAM and 7200 RPM 500 GB hard drive
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Editing loops in garageband 11?

2010-10-27 Thread Goldfinga Productions
As for importing files in to GB, this is a big YES. Use the file browser. I 
haven't tried the marker thing yet though. I am just really getting in to 
playing with regions.

GF


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> Here's a quick question. Is it now possible to edit your tempo marking in the 
> song? You use to not have that ability with voiceover. Also, is it possible 
> to import a file onto a track such as a stereo mix of a song? I want to be 
> able to import a file into gb, sequence some drums over it using the jampack 
> drums, and export out that single track as an audio file to import back into 
> Pro Tools. I couldn't find a way to do this in iLive 09, so was wondering if 
> any of you cats who now have 11 know if this is now possible? My iLife comes 
> tomorrow, and am really excited to see how this can really impact my 
> recording work.
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Turning speech using vo key strokes

2010-10-27 Thread Chenelle Hancock
Hi everyone,can anyone tell me how I  use vo key strokes to turn speech back 
on?. Thank you sincerely, chenelle

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Re: scanner vs eye pal solo

2010-10-27 Thread Chris Moore
The Commodore VICE 20 was my first computer, closely followed by the Commodore 
64 (fantastic sound CHIP, lovely synth sounds) then I was a huge fan of the 
Amiga for many years also because of its sound and great games too.  And it was 
one of the first GUI type computers that actually multi tasked way before 
Windows and Mac OS.  The old Amiga OS so reminds me of Mac OS X

Chris 
On 27 Oct 2010, at 23:53, Scott Granados wrote:

> Oh man the Apple II line was a great learning tool.
> 
> I had the II E and learned a great deal from my experience, not all of which 
> were legal by any sense of the imagination.  (bluebox anyone)  I miss the 
> 6502 assembler.:)
> 
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
> 
>> Rose,
>> it helps to have messed with computer and electronics since being a kid. I 
>> am just 14 years behind you. I have been messing with computers and 
>> electronics since age 10 (my first computer was a put together kit called an 
>> Altairre). my first consumer electronic unit was an apple IIc. 
>> 
>> so, I've been around the scene for a very long time. :)
>> 
>> -Eric
>> 
>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Rosemary Gallagher wrote:
>> 
>>> hi, all. I am a fairly new mac user, although I am 59 and totally blind and 
>>> have been for 27 years. I never used a computer while I was working in the 
>>> 80's and tried out an old Apple in 1985 at Braille Institute. the point of 
>>> ths is that I am getting a device called the eye pal solo which uses a 
>>> camera to take a picture of printed material and then reads it. it works 
>>> fairly well since the scanner I have hooked up to minimac is so complicated 
>>> that I couldn't remember all the steps to make it work. so, the eye pal is 
>>> a good althernative for me. I am sure there is a web site for it, but am 
>>> not sure. this is still all new for me and I am somewhat intimidated by how 
>>> radically intelligent and computer savvy you all are. I had missed the 
>>> boat, but am swimming behind, trying to catch up.  Joy
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Re: scanner vs eye pal solo

2010-10-27 Thread Nektarios Mallas
Hi.
So, was there a screen reader for the ¬commodore or the amiga computers? 
I had an Amstrad cpc 6128 myself, and I had to do many tricks to get by. 

Nice discussion.
Nektarios.

On Oct 28, 2010, at 2:01 AM, Chris Moore wrote:

> The Commodore VICE 20 was my first computer, closely followed by the 
> Commodore 64 (fantastic sound CHIP, lovely synth sounds) then I was a huge 
> fan of the Amiga for many years also because of its sound and great games 
> too.  And it was one of the first GUI type computers that actually multi 
> tasked way before Windows and Mac OS.  The old Amiga OS so reminds me of Mac 
> OS X
> 
> Chris 
> On 27 Oct 2010, at 23:53, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Oh man the Apple II line was a great learning tool.
>> 
>> I had the II E and learned a great deal from my experience, not all of which 
>> were legal by any sense of the imagination.  (bluebox anyone)  I miss the 
>> 6502 assembler.:)
>> 
>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>> 
>>> Rose,
>>> it helps to have messed with computer and electronics since being a kid. I 
>>> am just 14 years behind you. I have been messing with computers and 
>>> electronics since age 10 (my first computer was a put together kit called 
>>> an Altairre). my first consumer electronic unit was an apple IIc. 
>>> 
>>> so, I've been around the scene for a very long time. :)
>>> 
>>> -Eric
>>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Rosemary Gallagher wrote:
>>> 
 hi, all. I am a fairly new mac user, although I am 59 and totally blind 
 and have been for 27 years. I never used a computer while I was working in 
 the 80's and tried out an old Apple in 1985 at Braille Institute. the 
 point of ths is that I am getting a device called the eye pal solo which 
 uses a camera to take a picture of printed material and then reads it. it 
 works fairly well since the scanner I have hooked up to minimac is so 
 complicated that I couldn't remember all the steps to make it work. so, 
 the eye pal is a good althernative for me. I am sure there is a web site 
 for it, but am not sure. this is still all new for me and I am somewhat 
 intimidated by how radically intelligent and computer savvy you all are. I 
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Fwd: Accordance Bible SOftware+ Accessibility

2010-10-27 Thread Joshua Loya
Here's the response I got from Helen at Accordance



ÎBegin forwarded message:

> From: Helen Brown 
> Date: October 27, 2010 4:03:03 PM PDT
> To: Joshua Loya 
> Subject: Re: Accordance Bible SOftware+ Accessibility
> 
> Joshua:
> 
> We are quite familiar with the issues and are working on this, but it takes a 
> massive amount of re-programming to bring a 15 year old program up to speed 
> with the latest mac systems. We are getting close and do hope to have full 
> voiceover in a matter of months. I am embarrassed that we aren't there yet, 
> but I don't do the programming, so...
> 
> Helen
> 
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 5:05 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:
> 
>> Hello Helen,
>> I am one of the many blind Mac users who utilize the Voice Over utility to 
>> navigate my computer. The Accordance Bible Software demo I recently 
>> installed is not quite usable by somebody who depends on VOice Over for 
>> access to software on their Mac. I am fairly new to the Mac, so I am unable 
>> to give you specific ways in which Accordance can be modified, but there is 
>> extensive documentation for Mac developers on the Apple web site. Here is 
>> the direct link to apple Accessibility.
>> www.apple.com/accessibility
>> I would appreciate any information you have regarding efforts the people 
>> behind Accordance are making to remedy this.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> Joshua Loya
> 
> *
> Dr. Helen A. Brown
> OakTree Software, Inc.
> 498 Palm Springs Drive, Suite 100
> Altamonte Springs, FL 32701
> TOLL FREE orders: (877) 339-5855
> (407) 339-5855  Fax: (407) 339-9188
> Tech support: (407) 339-0266
> E-mail: he...@accordancebible.com
> Website: http://www.accordancebible.com/
> *
> 
> 
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Re: Turning speech using vo key strokes

2010-10-27 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Chenelle,

do you mean on an iPhone?

If so, it depends on how speech was turned off.

1.  If it is just speech, then you can do a three-finger double tap and speech 
will come back.

2.  If it is that VO is off, you'll need sighted help to go under the Settings, 
General then Accessibility menu and then have them turn VO back on.  Once VO is 
on, I would go further and set your Triple-click-Home setting to toggle VO on 
and off then you shouldn't ever need sighted assistance again.

3.  If it is like 2 above and you can't get any sighted assistance, try 
connecting it to your Mac and then turning off and on the accessibility options 
through iTunes.  I'm not sure if this would be successful as I've never tried 
this option before.

Good luck.


Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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> Hi everyone,can anyone tell me how I  use vo key strokes to turn speech back 
> on?. Thank you sincerely, chenelle
> 
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Re: scanner vs eye pal solo

2010-10-27 Thread Chris Moore
Well there was built in speech which was quite controllable.  For some reason I 
think it was called Narrator (even though I think its called that on Windows 
too?)  You  could move sliders up and down to change pitch and speed etc.  Most 
applications could take advantage of it, but I am not sure if there was a 
dedicated screen reader as I had sight in those days.  I tended to use the 
speech to read out naughty words and laugh (well I was a teenager).

I also had the Curah Speech Synthesizer for the Commodore 64.  This was a 
cartridge that plugged into the back and cost £30 at the time.  Very basic, but 
in 1984 my friends were totally amazed and thought it was very futuristic like 
something out of a science fiction movie.

How things have progressed eh?

Chris 
On 28 Oct 2010, at 00:13, Nektarios Mallas wrote:

> Hi.
> So, was there a screen reader for the ¬commodore or the amiga computers? 
> I had an Amstrad cpc 6128 myself, and I had to do many tricks to get by. 
> 
> Nice discussion.
> Nektarios.
> 
> On Oct 28, 2010, at 2:01 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
> 
>> The Commodore VICE 20 was my first computer, closely followed by the 
>> Commodore 64 (fantastic sound CHIP, lovely synth sounds) then I was a huge 
>> fan of the Amiga for many years also because of its sound and great games 
>> too.  And it was one of the first GUI type computers that actually multi 
>> tasked way before Windows and Mac OS.  The old Amiga OS so reminds me of Mac 
>> OS X
>> 
>> Chris 
>> On 27 Oct 2010, at 23:53, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh man the Apple II line was a great learning tool.
>>> 
>>> I had the II E and learned a great deal from my experience, not all of 
>>> which were legal by any sense of the imagination.  (bluebox anyone)  I miss 
>>> the 6502 assembler.:)
>>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>>> 
 Rose,
 it helps to have messed with computer and electronics since being a kid. I 
 am just 14 years behind you. I have been messing with computers and 
 electronics since age 10 (my first computer was a put together kit called 
 an Altairre). my first consumer electronic unit was an apple IIc. 
 
 so, I've been around the scene for a very long time. :)
 
 -Eric
 
 On Oct 27, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Rosemary Gallagher wrote:
 
> hi, all. I am a fairly new mac user, although I am 59 and totally blind 
> and have been for 27 years. I never used a computer while I was working 
> in the 80's and tried out an old Apple in 1985 at Braille Institute. the 
> point of ths is that I am getting a device called the eye pal solo which 
> uses a camera to take a picture of printed material and then reads it. it 
> works fairly well since the scanner I have hooked up to minimac is so 
> complicated that I couldn't remember all the steps to make it work. so, 
> the eye pal is a good althernative for me. I am sure there is a web site 
> for it, but am not sure. this is still all new for me and I am somewhat 
> intimidated by how radically intelligent and computer savvy you all are. 
> I had missed the boat, but am swimming behind, trying to catch up.  Joy
> 
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Re: MP3 Books on the iPod Touch and iTunes

2010-10-27 Thread Kimberly thurman
And just how should I edit the tag information?  I changed the genre to 
audiobook in two different places under get info.  Why do the files then end up 
out of order even when they are numbered files and the numbers are in the file 
names.
On Oct 27, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:

> It doesn't have anything to do with the new version of iTunes. Make sure that 
> you have correctly edited the tag information of the files. Sometimes it can 
> be a bit tedious, but if you're not going to convert the files to .m4b, 
> double checking the tag information is your best bet.
> 
> Hope that helps,
> Joshua
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> 
>> HI Folks:
>> 
>> We have discussed this here before, but I'm having some issues with it.  I 
>> want to play a folder of MP3 files, which are ripped from CD audiobooks on 
>> my iPod.  I know that I must add the files to my iTunes library.  I thin 
>> find them in iTunes, select them all, and do VO/shift/M and chose get info.  
>> In there I change the genre to audiobook   and then go to the options 
>> tab and change it to audiobook there as well.  I choose not to include while 
>> shuffling.  The book then shows up in the books portion of iTunes, but the 
>> title became Unknown and the MP3 files were all in the wrong order.  
>> 
>> What am I doing wrong here?  Does it have something to do with the new 
>> version of iTunes?  What are the check boxes for that are now present just 
>> before the track titles?  
>> 
>> TIA for any help here.  I really want to play these books on my Touch, but 
>> it is a pain when they are out of order.  Audible books work just fine, 
>> however.
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Re: MP3 Books on the iPod Touch and iTunes

2010-10-27 Thread Kimberly thurman
Is ther an easy way to convert the files to M4B, and willl this solve the files 
ending up out of order?
On Oct 27, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:

> It doesn't have anything to do with the new version of iTunes. Make sure that 
> you have correctly edited the tag information of the files. Sometimes it can 
> be a bit tedious, but if you're not going to convert the files to .m4b, 
> double checking the tag information is your best bet.
> 
> Hope that helps,
> Joshua
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
> 
>> HI Folks:
>> 
>> We have discussed this here before, but I'm having some issues with it.  I 
>> want to play a folder of MP3 files, which are ripped from CD audiobooks on 
>> my iPod.  I know that I must add the files to my iTunes library.  I thin 
>> find them in iTunes, select them all, and do VO/shift/M and chose get info.  
>> In there I change the genre to audiobook   and then go to the options 
>> tab and change it to audiobook there as well.  I choose not to include while 
>> shuffling.  The book then shows up in the books portion of iTunes, but the 
>> title became Unknown and the MP3 files were all in the wrong order.  
>> 
>> What am I doing wrong here?  Does it have something to do with the new 
>> version of iTunes?  What are the check boxes for that are now present just 
>> before the track titles?  
>> 
>> TIA for any help here.  I really want to play these books on my Touch, but 
>> it is a pain when they are out of order.  Audible books work just fine, 
>> however.
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Re: MP3 Books on the iPod Touch and iTunes

2010-10-27 Thread Courtney Curran
Hi,
While we're on this topic, can you play audiobooks at double speed on the Ipod 
Touch, if so, how?
Courtney


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On Oct 27, 2010, at 7:33 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:

> And just how should I edit the tag information?  I changed the genre to 
> audiobook in two different places under get info.  Why do the files then end 
> up out of order even when they are numbered files and the numbers are in the 
> file names.
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:
> 
>> It doesn't have anything to do with the new version of iTunes. Make sure 
>> that you have correctly edited the tag information of the files. Sometimes 
>> it can be a bit tedious, but if you're not going to convert the files to 
>> .m4b, double checking the tag information is your best bet.
>> 
>> Hope that helps,
>> Joshua
>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> HI Folks:
>>> 
>>> We have discussed this here before, but I'm having some issues with it.  I 
>>> want to play a folder of MP3 files, which are ripped from CD audiobooks on 
>>> my iPod.  I know that I must add the files to my iTunes library.  I thin 
>>> find them in iTunes, select them all, and do VO/shift/M and chose get info. 
>>>  In there I change the genre to audiobook   and then go to the options 
>>> tab and change it to audiobook there as well.  I choose not to include 
>>> while shuffling.  The book then shows up in the books portion of iTunes, 
>>> but the title became Unknown and the MP3 files were all in the wrong order. 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> What am I doing wrong here?  Does it have something to do with the new 
>>> version of iTunes?  What are the check boxes for that are now present just 
>>> before the track titles?  
>>> 
>>> TIA for any help here.  I really want to play these books on my Touch, but 
>>> it is a pain when they are out of order.  Audible books work just fine, 
>>> however.
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Re: scanner vs eye pal solo

2010-10-27 Thread Sarah Alawami
Will the ipal work wiht the mac? or am I geting it confused with something 
else. I've seent eh ipal but not the ipal solo.

Take care.
S
On Oct 27, 2010, at 4:26 PM, Chris Moore wrote:

> Well there was built in speech which was quite controllable.  For some reason 
> I think it was called Narrator (even though I think its called that on 
> Windows too?)  You  could move sliders up and down to change pitch and speed 
> etc.  Most applications could take advantage of it, but I am not sure if 
> there was a dedicated screen reader as I had sight in those days.  I tended 
> to use the speech to read out naughty words and laugh (well I was a teenager).
> 
> I also had the Curah Speech Synthesizer for the Commodore 64.  This was a 
> cartridge that plugged into the back and cost £30 at the time.  Very basic, 
> but in 1984 my friends were totally amazed and thought it was very futuristic 
> like something out of a science fiction movie.
> 
> How things have progressed eh?
> 
> Chris 
> On 28 Oct 2010, at 00:13, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> So, was there a screen reader for the ¬commodore or the amiga computers? 
>> I had an Amstrad cpc 6128 myself, and I had to do many tricks to get by. 
>> 
>> Nice discussion.
>> Nektarios.
>> 
>> On Oct 28, 2010, at 2:01 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
>> 
>>> The Commodore VICE 20 was my first computer, closely followed by the 
>>> Commodore 64 (fantastic sound CHIP, lovely synth sounds) then I was a huge 
>>> fan of the Amiga for many years also because of its sound and great games 
>>> too.  And it was one of the first GUI type computers that actually multi 
>>> tasked way before Windows and Mac OS.  The old Amiga OS so reminds me of 
>>> Mac OS X
>>> 
>>> Chris 
>>> On 27 Oct 2010, at 23:53, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Oh man the Apple II line was a great learning tool.
 
 I had the II E and learned a great deal from my experience, not all of 
 which were legal by any sense of the imagination.  (bluebox anyone)  I 
 miss the 6502 assembler.:)
 
 On Oct 27, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
 
> Rose,
> it helps to have messed with computer and electronics since being a kid. 
> I am just 14 years behind you. I have been messing with computers and 
> electronics since age 10 (my first computer was a put together kit called 
> an Altairre). my first consumer electronic unit was an apple IIc. 
> 
> so, I've been around the scene for a very long time. :)
> 
> -Eric
> 
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Rosemary Gallagher wrote:
> 
>> hi, all. I am a fairly new mac user, although I am 59 and totally blind 
>> and have been for 27 years. I never used a computer while I was working 
>> in the 80's and tried out an old Apple in 1985 at Braille Institute. the 
>> point of ths is that I am getting a device called the eye pal solo which 
>> uses a camera to take a picture of printed material and then reads it. 
>> it works fairly well since the scanner I have hooked up to minimac is so 
>> complicated that I couldn't remember all the steps to make it work. so, 
>> the eye pal is a good althernative for me. I am sure there is a web site 
>> for it, but am not sure. this is still all new for me and I am somewhat 
>> intimidated by how radically intelligent and computer savvy you all are. 
>> I had missed the boat, but am swimming behind, trying to catch up.  Joy
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RE: MP3 Books on the iPod Touch and iTunes

2010-10-27 Thread Robert Hooper
If the iPod touch recognizes the file(s) you are playing as an audiobook, then 
there is an option to do this. In the now playing screen, there is a button 
entitled "playback speed". By default, it is set to normal and will inform  you 
of such. Double-tapping this button will set it to double, double-tapping it 
again will cut the speed to half the original, and double-tapping it yet again 
will return it to normal. I hope this in some way helps nudge you along the 
pathway of success!
Robert Hooper
hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu


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Subject: Re: MP3 Books on the iPod Touch and iTunes

Hi,
While we're on this topic, can you play audiobooks at double speed on the Ipod 
Touch, if so, how?
Courtney


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On Oct 27, 2010, at 7:33 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:

> And just how should I edit the tag information?  I changed the genre to 
> audiobook in two different places under get info.  Why do the files then end 
> up out of order even when they are numbered files and the numbers are in the 
> file names.
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:
> 
>> It doesn't have anything to do with the new version of iTunes. Make sure 
>> that you have correctly edited the tag information of the files. Sometimes 
>> it can be a bit tedious, but if you're not going to convert the files to 
>> .m4b, double checking the tag information is your best bet.
>> 
>> Hope that helps,
>> Joshua
>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> HI Folks:
>>> 
>>> We have discussed this here before, but I'm having some issues with it.  I 
>>> want to play a folder of MP3 files, which are ripped from CD audiobooks on 
>>> my iPod.  I know that I must add the files to my iTunes library.  I thin 
>>> find them in iTunes, select them all, and do VO/shift/M and chose get info. 
>>>  In there I change the genre to audiobook   and then go to the options 
>>> tab and change it to audiobook there as well.  I choose not to include 
>>> while shuffling.  The book then shows up in the books portion of iTunes, 
>>> but the title became Unknown and the MP3 files were all in the wrong order. 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> What am I doing wrong here?  Does it have something to do with the new 
>>> version of iTunes?  What are the check boxes for that are now present just 
>>> before the track titles?  
>>> 
>>> TIA for any help here.  I really want to play these books on my Touch, but 
>>> it is a pain when they are out of order.  Audible books work just fine, 
>>> however.
>>> 
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Re: MP3 Books on the iPod Touch and iTunes

2010-10-27 Thread Joshua Loya
Use the fields in the info tab when you get info on the files. You might have 
to do it one at a time.


On Oct 27, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:

> And just how should I edit the tag information?  I changed the genre to 
> audiobook in two different places under get info.  Why do the files then end 
> up out of order even when they are numbered files and the numbers are in the 
> file names.
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:
> 
>> It doesn't have anything to do with the new version of iTunes. Make sure 
>> that you have correctly edited the tag information of the files. Sometimes 
>> it can be a bit tedious, but if you're not going to convert the files to 
>> .m4b, double checking the tag information is your best bet.
>> 
>> Hope that helps,
>> Joshua
>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> HI Folks:
>>> 
>>> We have discussed this here before, but I'm having some issues with it.  I 
>>> want to play a folder of MP3 files, which are ripped from CD audiobooks on 
>>> my iPod.  I know that I must add the files to my iTunes library.  I thin 
>>> find them in iTunes, select them all, and do VO/shift/M and chose get info. 
>>>  In there I change the genre to audiobook   and then go to the options 
>>> tab and change it to audiobook there as well.  I choose not to include 
>>> while shuffling.  The book then shows up in the books portion of iTunes, 
>>> but the title became Unknown and the MP3 files were all in the wrong order. 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> What am I doing wrong here?  Does it have something to do with the new 
>>> version of iTunes?  What are the check boxes for that are now present just 
>>> before the track titles?  
>>> 
>>> TIA for any help here.  I really want to play these books on my Touch, but 
>>> it is a pain when they are out of order.  Audible books work just fine, 
>>> however.
>>> 
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RE: MP3 Books on the iPod Touch and iTunes

2010-10-27 Thread Chris Harrington
I still haven't mastered this fine art of doing mp3 books on the apple
devices. Maybe some listers with more extensive knowledge of such could
help?
Thanks!!!
Chris Harrington

http://www.c-harrington.com

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If the iPod touch recognizes the file(s) you are playing as an audiobook,
then there is an option to do this. In the now playing screen, there is a
button entitled "playback speed". By default, it is set to normal and will
inform  you of such. Double-tapping this button will set it to double,
double-tapping it again will cut the speed to half the original, and
double-tapping it yet again will return it to normal. I hope this in some
way helps nudge you along the pathway of success!
Robert Hooper
hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu


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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Courtney Curran
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 7:37 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MP3 Books on the iPod Touch and iTunes

Hi,
While we're on this topic, can you play audiobooks at double speed on the
Ipod Touch, if so, how?
Courtney


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at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info

On Oct 27, 2010, at 7:33 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:

> And just how should I edit the tag information?  I changed the genre to
audiobook in two different places under get info.  Why do the files then end
up out of order even when they are numbered files and the numbers are in the
file names.
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Joshua Loya wrote:
> 
>> It doesn't have anything to do with the new version of iTunes. Make sure
that you have correctly edited the tag information of the files. Sometimes
it can be a bit tedious, but if you're not going to convert the files to
.m4b, double checking the tag information is your best bet.
>> 
>> Hope that helps,
>> Joshua
>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Kimberly thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> HI Folks:
>>> 
>>> We have discussed this here before, but I'm having some issues with it.
I want to play a folder of MP3 files, which are ripped from CD audiobooks on
my iPod.  I know that I must add the files to my iTunes library.  I thin
find them in iTunes, select them all, and do VO/shift/M and chose get info.
In there I change the genre to audiobook   and then go to the options
tab and change it to audiobook there as well.  I choose not to include while
shuffling.  The book then shows up in the books portion of iTunes, but the
title became Unknown and the MP3 files were all in the wrong order.  
>>> 
>>> What am I doing wrong here?  Does it have something to do with the new
version of iTunes?  What are the check boxes for that are now present just
before the track titles?  
>>> 
>>> TIA for any help here.  I really want to play these books on my Touch,
but it is a pain when they are out of order.  Audible books work just fine,
however.
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Re: scanner vs eye pal solo

2010-10-27 Thread Chris Moore
Not currently, but apparently it will soon.
On 28 Oct 2010, at 00:44, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> Will the ipal work wiht the mac? or am I geting it confused with something 
> else. I've seent eh ipal but not the ipal solo.
> 
> Take care.
> S
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 4:26 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
> 
>> Well there was built in speech which was quite controllable.  For some 
>> reason I think it was called Narrator (even though I think its called that 
>> on Windows too?)  You  could move sliders up and down to change pitch and 
>> speed etc.  Most applications could take advantage of it, but I am not sure 
>> if there was a dedicated screen reader as I had sight in those days.  I 
>> tended to use the speech to read out naughty words and laugh (well I was a 
>> teenager).
>> 
>> I also had the Curah Speech Synthesizer for the Commodore 64.  This was a 
>> cartridge that plugged into the back and cost £30 at the time.  Very basic, 
>> but in 1984 my friends were totally amazed and thought it was very 
>> futuristic like something out of a science fiction movie.
>> 
>> How things have progressed eh?
>> 
>> Chris 
>> On 28 Oct 2010, at 00:13, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> So, was there a screen reader for the ¬commodore or the amiga computers? 
>>> I had an Amstrad cpc 6128 myself, and I had to do many tricks to get by. 
>>> 
>>> Nice discussion.
>>> Nektarios.
>>> 
>>> On Oct 28, 2010, at 2:01 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
>>> 
 The Commodore VICE 20 was my first computer, closely followed by the 
 Commodore 64 (fantastic sound CHIP, lovely synth sounds) then I was a huge 
 fan of the Amiga for many years also because of its sound and great games 
 too.  And it was one of the first GUI type computers that actually multi 
 tasked way before Windows and Mac OS.  The old Amiga OS so reminds me of 
 Mac OS X
 
 Chris 
 On 27 Oct 2010, at 23:53, Scott Granados wrote:
 
> Oh man the Apple II line was a great learning tool.
> 
> I had the II E and learned a great deal from my experience, not all of 
> which were legal by any sense of the imagination.  (bluebox anyone)  I 
> miss the 6502 assembler.:)
> 
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
> 
>> Rose,
>> it helps to have messed with computer and electronics since being a kid. 
>> I am just 14 years behind you. I have been messing with computers and 
>> electronics since age 10 (my first computer was a put together kit 
>> called an Altairre). my first consumer electronic unit was an apple IIc. 
>> 
>> so, I've been around the scene for a very long time. :)
>> 
>> -Eric
>> 
>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Rosemary Gallagher wrote:
>> 
>>> hi, all. I am a fairly new mac user, although I am 59 and totally blind 
>>> and have been for 27 years. I never used a computer while I was working 
>>> in the 80's and tried out an old Apple in 1985 at Braille Institute. 
>>> the point of ths is that I am getting a device called the eye pal solo 
>>> which uses a camera to take a picture of printed material and then 
>>> reads it. it works fairly well since the scanner I have hooked up to 
>>> minimac is so complicated that I couldn't remember all the steps to 
>>> make it work. so, the eye pal is a good althernative for me. I am sure 
>>> there is a web site for it, but am not sure. this is still all new for 
>>> me and I am somewhat intimidated by how radically intelligent and 
>>> computer savvy you all are. I had missed the boat, but am swimming 
>>> behind, trying to catch up.  Joy
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Re: Turning speech using vo key strokes

2010-10-27 Thread Colin M
Hi Chenelle!
And on the Mac its just command+f5 to put it on or off!
hth Colin
On 28 Oct 2010, at 00:25, Tim Kilburn wrote:

> Hi Chenelle,
> 
> do you mean on an iPhone?
> 
> If so, it depends on how speech was turned off.
> 
> 1.  If it is just speech, then you can do a three-finger double tap and 
> speech will come back.
> 
> 2.  If it is that VO is off, you'll need sighted help to go under the 
> Settings, General then Accessibility menu and then have them turn VO back on. 
>  Once VO is on, I would go further and set your Triple-click-Home setting to 
> toggle VO on and off then you shouldn't ever need sighted assistance again.
> 
> 3.  If it is like 2 above and you can't get any sighted assistance, try 
> connecting it to your Mac and then turning off and on the accessibility 
> options through iTunes.  I'm not sure if this would be successful as I've 
> never tried this option before.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2010-10-27, at 5:05 PM, Chenelle Hancock wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone,can anyone tell me how I  use vo key strokes to turn speech back 
>> on?. Thank you sincerely, chenelle
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: MP3 Books on the iPod Touch and iTunes

2010-10-27 Thread Robert Hooper
The main difference between the way Windows handles files (media files 
particularly) and the way Mac OS (and other Apple products) handles files is 
metadata. Windows relies largely on their customers with media files to 
organize them via a directory structure and to play them or add them to a 
playlist manually. Keep in mind that this is generally speaking. Apple, on the 
other hand, does all of this "tech" stuff behind the scenes and organizes your 
files for you based on their metadata tags. In a perfect world, everyone with a 
Mac computer would be using iTunes for the downloading of their music, books, 
movies, etc. In this way, everything would work...all the time. ON the Windows 
side, people may have five different media players for various types of files 
and it's better to group things by directory. When beginning to use an Apple 
product, some less-than desirable things may occur. The windows user neglects 
the tagging of their files. Now we all know that audiobooks downloaded from 
Audible are already tagged brilliantly, and music from the iTunes store is 
likewise tagged perfectly. But, it being the twenty-first century where data 
dissemination is the way of life, there are...other sources of obtaining movies 
and music--and some of these bits of digital entertainment may lack some 
critical bits of metadata that make iTunes properly sort it. So, instead of 
making sure that all your mp3 audiobook titles are properly numbered and named 
before copying and pasting them over to your Rockbox-enabled device for 
playing, you now have to neglect the file names and pay closer attention to the 
tags associated with your files. If you import all your stuff directly into 
iTunes, then you can tag it properly with "Get Info". Chris (and others), I'm 
willing to bet that the majority of iPod audiobook-related issues are 
metadata-based, as I had similar problems when I first obtained an IOS device. 
It's not that hard of a switch, and, quite frankly, it is a more organized and 
secure system than maintaining files in structured directories--some people 
dislike the amount of control Apple seems to exert on their end-users and site 
that as one of their reasons for their continuing reluctance to switch, but it 
is merely Apple trying to lighten the load of excessive administrative tasks so 
their customers can focus on getting the important work done. I would much 
rather finish something important than remember to defragment my hard drive; or 
record a song instead of allocating my time to cleaning out the registry of old 
programs; do research rather than get stuck with the daunting task of 
maintaining a meticulously user-organized list of files and folders so that my 
handful of media players can use them. Anyway I apologize for the lack of 
brevity in this email--that's my thesis for the evening:)
I hope I have provided some insight, at the very least.
Smilingly:)
Robert Hooper
hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu

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On Behalf Of Chris Harrington
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 8:00 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: MP3 Books on the iPod Touch and iTunes

I still haven't mastered this fine art of doing mp3 books on the apple devices. 
Maybe some listers with more extensive knowledge of such could help?
Thanks!!!
Chris Harrington

http://www.c-harrington.com

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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Hooper
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 7:51 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: MP3 Books on the iPod Touch and iTunes

If the iPod touch recognizes the file(s) you are playing as an audiobook, then 
there is an option to do this. In the now playing screen, there is a button 
entitled "playback speed". By default, it is set to normal and will inform  you 
of such. Double-tapping this button will set it to double, double-tapping it 
again will cut the speed to half the original, and double-tapping it yet again 
will return it to normal. I hope this in some way helps nudge you along the 
pathway of success!
Robert Hooper
hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu


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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Courtney Curran
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 7:37 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MP3 Books on the iPod Touch and iTunes

Hi,
While we're on this topic, can you play audiobooks at double speed on the Ipod 
Touch, if so, how?
Courtney


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On Oct 27, 2010, at 7:33 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote:

> And just how should I edit the tag information?  I changed the genre 
> to
audiobook in two different places under get info.  Why do the files then end up 
out of order even when they are nu

VO mute hot keys

2010-10-27 Thread Julie Russell
Somehow I muted the computer - a Vo key combo   Anyone able to help me?   
Julie 

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Re: VO continually crashing on application support page

2010-10-27 Thread Eric Oyen
let me check real fast. you may need to software update. I'll report findings.

-Eric

On Oct 27, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Joshua Loya wrote:

> Hello,
> I went to
> http://www.apple.com/accessibility
> I then clicked on application support, in order to look at the list of VO 
> compatible applicaitons. As soon as that page loads, VO keeps crashing, and I 
> have to quit Safari from the dock. Is anyone else having this problem? Any 
> solutions?
> 
> Thanks,
> Joshua
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Turningspeech on using Bo k strokes

2010-10-27 Thread Chenelle Hancock
Hi guys;
I was duplicating my musicfrom my external hard drive onto my iTunes and my 
hand against the track pad. Causing vo speech to be muted. So how do i unmate 
my speech so i can use vo again?. 
Thanks a lot really appreciate it. 
Chenelle brushed 

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Oh! Same as phone!

2010-10-27 Thread Julie Russell
Love it!!
Julie 

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Re: VO continually crashing on application support page

2010-10-27 Thread Eric Oyen
ok,
vo keeps resetting on the main page. I cannot navigate or read anything there. 
looks like a bug in safari or an issue on the website itself. I am sending a 
report in as we speak.

send an e-mail to accessibil...@apple.com they may be able to help.

-Eric


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> Hello,
> I went to
> http://www.apple.com/accessibility
> I then clicked on application support, in order to look at the list of VO 
> compatible applicaitons. As soon as that page loads, VO keeps crashing, and I 
> have to quit Safari from the dock. Is anyone else having this problem? Any 
> solutions?
> 
> Thanks,
> Joshua
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Re: concerning recent skype conversations

2010-10-27 Thread Colin M
Hi John and Joshua and others!
Part of this was my fault for not giving a better description!
I wrongly presumed that people had already opened the skype image that Joshua 
mentioned, so if any one else comes across this skype image on there first 
time, please interact with the image vo+shift+down arrow then like I mentioned 
before you get to the different fields with the tab key!
This caught me out as well and someone on the list put this straight but I 
can't be sure!
So you can get skype running from that Image!
hth Colin
On 27 Oct 2010, at 21:31, Joshua Loya wrote:

> I installed Skype, and when I logged in for the first time, I got an image 
> which VO could not read. When I uninstalled the latest version, and install 
> an earlier one, I was able to sign in with no difficulty. I then updated the 
> application from within Skype, and I have had no problems. It appears to have 
> to do with logging in to Skype for the first time, or at least it did for me.
> 
> -Joshua
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 12:33 PM, John D. Lipsey wrote:
> 
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> I'm not particularly following many threads on the list at present, but the 
>> issue of skype accessibility seems to have cropped up a bit here and there.  
>> This has me curious.  I am, to my knowledge, running the latest version of 
>> skype, and not having any issues with it.  What accessibility issues are you 
>> noticing?  Are these issues before or after you log into skype itself?
>> 
>> Sorry if this was all brought up before, and if those of you with issues 
>> wish to write me off-list, that's fine too.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> -John
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Re: VO continually crashing on application support page

2010-10-27 Thread Joshua Loya
Thanks for checking it out. Glad to know it's not only me.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 27, 2010, at 5:34 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:

> ok,
> vo keeps resetting on the main page. I cannot navigate or read anything 
> there. looks like a bug in safari or an issue on the website itself. I am 
> sending a report in as we speak.
> 
> send an e-mail to accessibil...@apple.com they may be able to help.
> 
> -Eric
> 
> 
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Joshua Loya wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> I went to
>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility
>> I then clicked on application support, in order to look at the list of VO 
>> compatible applicaitons. As soon as that page loads, VO keeps crashing, and 
>> I have to quit Safari from the dock. Is anyone else having this problem? Any 
>> solutions?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Joshua
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Re: Turningspeech on using Bo k strokes

2010-10-27 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi Chenelle,

According to the VO Help, if the Trackpad commander is turned on, you can use 
the same gesture as I explained in my previous message for the iPhone.  That is,

• Three-finger-double-tap on your Trackpad to toggle speech on and off.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On 2010-10-27, at 6:30 PM, Chenelle Hancock wrote:

> Hi guys;
> I was duplicating my musicfrom my external hard drive onto my iTunes and my 
> hand against the track pad. Causing vo speech to be muted. So how do i unmate 
> my speech so i can use vo again?. 
> Thanks a lot really appreciate it. 
> Chenelle brushed 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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pondering question

2010-10-27 Thread heather kd5cbl
I was thinking today as I was using some of my items for the first time on 
the mac, about a question.  In windows, it always asks you if you are sure 
about doing anything and you have to tell it yes or no.  But I find that the 
mac does not have a message saying are you sure about anything.  For 
example, if you delete something, it does not say deleting x are you sure? 
It just does it.  That is great but what if you did not really want it to or 
you hit something by mistake, I am sure that might happen somewhere down the 
road.  Is there a message that one can turn on so if they make a mistake, 
the mac will say doing x or y, are you sure before it does it?  Heather 


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Re: pondering question

2010-10-27 Thread Sarah Alawami
Not that I'm aware of. it should how ever warn you about deleting itmes from 
the trash. if you del something and put it int he trash cmd z should bring it 
back.

Good luck.
On Oct 27, 2010, at 6:13 PM, heather kd5cbl wrote:

> I was thinking today as I was using some of my items for the first time on 
> the mac, about a question.  In windows, it always asks you if you are sure 
> about doing anything and you have to tell it yes or no.  But I find that the 
> mac does not have a message saying are you sure about anything.  For example, 
> if you delete something, it does not say deleting x are you sure? It just 
> does it.  That is great but what if you did not really want it to or you hit 
> something by mistake, I am sure that might happen somewhere down the road.  
> Is there a message that one can turn on so if they make a mistake, the mac 
> will say doing x or y, are you sure before it does it?  Heather 
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Re: VO mute hot keys

2010-10-27 Thread Sarah Alawami
I'm not familar with a vo mute hotkey but try function plus f10 or hit one of 
the volume keys.

Good luck.
On Oct 27, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Julie Russell wrote:

> Somehow I muted the computer - a Vo key combo   Anyone able to help me?   
> Julie 
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Re: VO mute hot keys

2010-10-27 Thread heather kd5cbl
On your trackpad, I think if you double tapp with three fingers on the 
trackpad, it should turn it back on.  Heather 


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Re: pondering question

2010-10-27 Thread heather kd5cbl
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RE: scanner vs eye pal solo

2010-10-27 Thread Andy Baracco
Yes!  It was called 64 Reader.  I believe it was developed by Ed Bowman, who
later went on to write a DOS screen reader called Tiny Talk.

Andy
 


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Hi.
So, was there a screen reader for the ¬commodore or the amiga computers? 
I had an Amstrad cpc 6128 myself, and I had to do many tricks to get by. 

Nice discussion.
Nektarios.

On Oct 28, 2010, at 2:01 AM, Chris Moore wrote:

> The Commodore VICE 20 was my first computer, closely followed by the 
> Commodore 64 (fantastic sound CHIP, lovely synth sounds) then I was a 
> huge fan of the Amiga for many years also because of its sound and 
> great games too.  And it was one of the first GUI type computers that 
> actually multi tasked way before Windows and Mac OS.  The old Amiga OS 
> so reminds me of Mac OS X
> 
> Chris
> On 27 Oct 2010, at 23:53, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Oh man the Apple II line was a great learning tool.
>> 
>> I had the II E and learned a great deal from my experience, not all 
>> of which were legal by any sense of the imagination.  (bluebox 
>> anyone)  I miss the 6502 assembler.:)
>> 
>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>> 
>>> Rose,
>>> it helps to have messed with computer and electronics since being a kid.
I am just 14 years behind you. I have been messing with computers and
electronics since age 10 (my first computer was a put together kit called an
Altairre). my first consumer electronic unit was an apple IIc. 
>>> 
>>> so, I've been around the scene for a very long time. :)
>>> 
>>> -Eric
>>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Rosemary Gallagher wrote:
>>> 
 hi, all. I am a fairly new mac user, although I am 59 and totally 
 blind and have been for 27 years. I never used a computer while I 
 was working in the 80's and tried out an old Apple in 1985 at 
 Braille Institute. the point of ths is that I am getting a device 
 called the eye pal solo which uses a camera to take a picture of 
 printed material and then reads it. it works fairly well since the 
 scanner I have hooked up to minimac is so complicated that I 
 couldn't remember all the steps to make it work. so, the eye pal is 
 a good althernative for me. I am sure there is a web site for it, 
 but am not sure. this is still all new for me and I am somewhat 
 intimidated by how radically intelligent and computer savvy you all 
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RE: scanner vs eye pal solo

2010-10-27 Thread Andy Baracco
The Solo is just what it says, a stand alone reading device.
 


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Will the ipal work wiht the mac? or am I geting it confused with something
else. I've seent eh ipal but not the ipal solo.

Take care.
S
On Oct 27, 2010, at 4:26 PM, Chris Moore wrote:

> Well there was built in speech which was quite controllable.  For some
reason I think it was called Narrator (even though I think its called that
on Windows too?)  You  could move sliders up and down to change pitch and
speed etc.  Most applications could take advantage of it, but I am not sure
if there was a dedicated screen reader as I had sight in those days.  I
tended to use the speech to read out naughty words and laugh (well I was a
teenager).
> 
> I also had the Curah Speech Synthesizer for the Commodore 64.  This was a
cartridge that plugged into the back and cost £30 at the time.  Very basic,
but in 1984 my friends were totally amazed and thought it was very
futuristic like something out of a science fiction movie.
> 
> How things have progressed eh?
> 
> Chris
> On 28 Oct 2010, at 00:13, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> So, was there a screen reader for the ¬commodore or the amiga computers? 
>> I had an Amstrad cpc 6128 myself, and I had to do many tricks to get by. 
>> 
>> Nice discussion.
>> Nektarios.
>> 
>> On Oct 28, 2010, at 2:01 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
>> 
>>> The Commodore VICE 20 was my first computer, closely followed by the 
>>> Commodore 64 (fantastic sound CHIP, lovely synth sounds) then I was 
>>> a huge fan of the Amiga for many years also because of its sound and 
>>> great games too.  And it was one of the first GUI type computers 
>>> that actually multi tasked way before Windows and Mac OS.  The old 
>>> Amiga OS so reminds me of Mac OS X
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> On 27 Oct 2010, at 23:53, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Oh man the Apple II line was a great learning tool.
 
 I had the II E and learned a great deal from my experience, not all 
 of which were legal by any sense of the imagination.  (bluebox 
 anyone)  I miss the 6502 assembler.:)
 
 On Oct 27, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
 
> Rose,
> it helps to have messed with computer and electronics since being a
kid. I am just 14 years behind you. I have been messing with computers and
electronics since age 10 (my first computer was a put together kit called an
Altairre). my first consumer electronic unit was an apple IIc. 
> 
> so, I've been around the scene for a very long time. :)
> 
> -Eric
> 
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Rosemary Gallagher wrote:
> 
>> hi, all. I am a fairly new mac user, although I am 59 and totally 
>> blind and have been for 27 years. I never used a computer while I 
>> was working in the 80's and tried out an old Apple in 1985 at 
>> Braille Institute. the point of ths is that I am getting a device 
>> called the eye pal solo which uses a camera to take a picture of 
>> printed material and then reads it. it works fairly well since 
>> the scanner I have hooked up to minimac is so complicated that I 
>> couldn't remember all the steps to make it work. so, the eye pal 
>> is a good althernative for me. I am sure there is a web site for 
>> it, but am not sure. this is still all new for me and I am 
>> somewhat intimidated by how radically intelligent and computer 
>> savvy you all are. I had missed the boat, but am swimming behind, 
>> trying to catch up.  Joy
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Re: scanner vs eye pal solo

2010-10-27 Thread Sarah Alawami
Hey that is cool. I hope it does support the mac so we could have a grater 
amount of independents. I don't use an ipal but you never know.

S
On Oct 27, 2010, at 5:12 PM, Chris Moore wrote:

> Not currently, but apparently it will soon.
> On 28 Oct 2010, at 00:44, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Will the ipal work wiht the mac? or am I geting it confused with something 
>> else. I've seent eh ipal but not the ipal solo.
>> 
>> Take care.
>> S
>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 4:26 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
>> 
>>> Well there was built in speech which was quite controllable.  For some 
>>> reason I think it was called Narrator (even though I think its called that 
>>> on Windows too?)  You  could move sliders up and down to change pitch and 
>>> speed etc.  Most applications could take advantage of it, but I am not sure 
>>> if there was a dedicated screen reader as I had sight in those days.  I 
>>> tended to use the speech to read out naughty words and laugh (well I was a 
>>> teenager).
>>> 
>>> I also had the Curah Speech Synthesizer for the Commodore 64.  This was a 
>>> cartridge that plugged into the back and cost £30 at the time.  Very basic, 
>>> but in 1984 my friends were totally amazed and thought it was very 
>>> futuristic like something out of a science fiction movie.
>>> 
>>> How things have progressed eh?
>>> 
>>> Chris 
>>> On 28 Oct 2010, at 00:13, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>>> 
 Hi.
 So, was there a screen reader for the ¬commodore or the amiga computers? 
 I had an Amstrad cpc 6128 myself, and I had to do many tricks to get by. 
 
 Nice discussion.
 Nektarios.
 
 On Oct 28, 2010, at 2:01 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
 
> The Commodore VICE 20 was my first computer, closely followed by the 
> Commodore 64 (fantastic sound CHIP, lovely synth sounds) then I was a 
> huge fan of the Amiga for many years also because of its sound and great 
> games too.  And it was one of the first GUI type computers that actually 
> multi tasked way before Windows and Mac OS.  The old Amiga OS so reminds 
> me of Mac OS X
> 
> Chris 
> On 27 Oct 2010, at 23:53, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Oh man the Apple II line was a great learning tool.
>> 
>> I had the II E and learned a great deal from my experience, not all of 
>> which were legal by any sense of the imagination.  (bluebox anyone)  I 
>> miss the 6502 assembler.:)
>> 
>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>> 
>>> Rose,
>>> it helps to have messed with computer and electronics since being a 
>>> kid. I am just 14 years behind you. I have been messing with computers 
>>> and electronics since age 10 (my first computer was a put together kit 
>>> called an Altairre). my first consumer electronic unit was an apple 
>>> IIc. 
>>> 
>>> so, I've been around the scene for a very long time. :)
>>> 
>>> -Eric
>>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Rosemary Gallagher wrote:
>>> 
 hi, all. I am a fairly new mac user, although I am 59 and totally 
 blind and have been for 27 years. I never used a computer while I was 
 working in the 80's and tried out an old Apple in 1985 at Braille 
 Institute. the point of ths is that I am getting a device called the 
 eye pal solo which uses a camera to take a picture of printed material 
 and then reads it. it works fairly well since the scanner I have 
 hooked up to minimac is so complicated that I couldn't remember all 
 the steps to make it work. so, the eye pal is a good althernative for 
 me. I am sure there is a web site for it, but am not sure. this is 
 still all new for me and I am somewhat intimidated by how radically 
 intelligent and computer savvy you all are. I had missed the boat, but 
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Re: scanner vs eye pal solo

2010-10-27 Thread Nektarios Mallas
You reminded me of so many things now, that I am afraid that this discussion 
will be off topic if we go on.
I was wondering though, how cool it would be if there is some kind of history 
of computer accessibility with text, audio recordings of old speech 
synthesizers, program demos etc. 
It would be good for us to remember and for the younger generation to 
appreciate how far we have gone. 

Nektarios. 

On Oct 28, 2010, at 2:26 AM, Chris Moore wrote:

> Well there was built in speech which was quite controllable.  For some reason 
> I think it was called Narrator (even though I think its called that on 
> Windows too?)  You  could move sliders up and down to change pitch and speed 
> etc.  Most applications could take advantage of it, but I am not sure if 
> there was a dedicated screen reader as I had sight in those days.  I tended 
> to use the speech to read out naughty words and laugh (well I was a teenager).
> 
> I also had the Curah Speech Synthesizer for the Commodore 64.  This was a 
> cartridge that plugged into the back and cost £30 at the time.  Very basic, 
> but in 1984 my friends were totally amazed and thought it was very futuristic 
> like something out of a science fiction movie.
> 
> How things have progressed eh?
> 
> Chris 
> On 28 Oct 2010, at 00:13, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> So, was there a screen reader for the ¬commodore or the amiga computers? 
>> I had an Amstrad cpc 6128 myself, and I had to do many tricks to get by. 
>> 
>> Nice discussion.
>> Nektarios.
>> 
>> On Oct 28, 2010, at 2:01 AM, Chris Moore wrote:
>> 
>>> The Commodore VICE 20 was my first computer, closely followed by the 
>>> Commodore 64 (fantastic sound CHIP, lovely synth sounds) then I was a huge 
>>> fan of the Amiga for many years also because of its sound and great games 
>>> too.  And it was one of the first GUI type computers that actually multi 
>>> tasked way before Windows and Mac OS.  The old Amiga OS so reminds me of 
>>> Mac OS X
>>> 
>>> Chris 
>>> On 27 Oct 2010, at 23:53, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
 Oh man the Apple II line was a great learning tool.
 
 I had the II E and learned a great deal from my experience, not all of 
 which were legal by any sense of the imagination.  (bluebox anyone)  I 
 miss the 6502 assembler.:)
 
 On Oct 27, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
 
> Rose,
> it helps to have messed with computer and electronics since being a kid. 
> I am just 14 years behind you. I have been messing with computers and 
> electronics since age 10 (my first computer was a put together kit called 
> an Altairre). my first consumer electronic unit was an apple IIc. 
> 
> so, I've been around the scene for a very long time. :)
> 
> -Eric
> 
> On Oct 27, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Rosemary Gallagher wrote:
> 
>> hi, all. I am a fairly new mac user, although I am 59 and totally blind 
>> and have been for 27 years. I never used a computer while I was working 
>> in the 80's and tried out an old Apple in 1985 at Braille Institute. the 
>> point of ths is that I am getting a device called the eye pal solo which 
>> uses a camera to take a picture of printed material and then reads it. 
>> it works fairly well since the scanner I have hooked up to minimac is so 
>> complicated that I couldn't remember all the steps to make it work. so, 
>> the eye pal is a good althernative for me. I am sure there is a web site 
>> for it, but am not sure. this is still all new for me and I am somewhat 
>> intimidated by how radically intelligent and computer savvy you all are. 
>> I had missed the boat, but am swimming behind, trying to catch up.  Joy
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Re: VO mute hot keys

2010-10-27 Thread Sarah Alawami
You have to turn the trackpad on first though. to do this hold down ctrl and 
option and rotate your 2 fingers to the right. then double tap.

Good luck.
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> On your trackpad, I think if you double tapp with three fingers on the 
> trackpad, it should turn it back on.  Heather 
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Re: VO mute hot keys

2010-10-27 Thread heather kd5cbl
If it does not work, here is the steps for unmuting speech with the 
keyboard.  vo-f8, (or on some it is fn-vo-f8) brings the voice over utility. 
Hit s for speech and tab twice to the mute speech and deselect from there. 
BY hitting vo with space bar.  Heather 


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Re: Microsoft Office 2011 period

2010-10-27 Thread Jude DaShiell
The huge problem with rehab departments is that many of them spend way 
under expected percentages on actual rehab.  Lots of management ends up 
going to Conferences in aweful places like Honolulu Hawaii.  Texas as an 
example could only provide slates styluses and braille paper for students 
since the state had not spent the rest of their budget correctly.  I can't 
remember if it was Dialog Magazine or Mathilde Ziegler magazine that had 
the report on all the garbage happening around the country but am pretty 
sure it was one of them.On Wed, 27 Oct 2010, Scott Granados wrote:



Well, with the budget cuts and the ressession are there any good well staffed 
rehab departments?  Even years ago the rehab department in CT was substandard.  
They had excelent education services for school children but once you got out 
you were in the soup pretty quickly.


On Oct 26, 2010, at 8:59 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:


Hi Scott:
Denver Co, home of the lousy broncos and the lousier rehab department.  But 
hey, we do have some good computers here, and the best ones are still the 
Macs.:)


Carolyn Haas
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On Oct 26, 2010, at 5:15 PM, Scott Ford wrote:


Hello,
May I as where you live?
Scott


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Heather:  I share your prospective.  I just met with a rehab counsellor who
insists that there's really no place for the Mac in the work world.  (she
also insists that since I'm doing ok with my Mac, I don't need a braille
display.  Guess that's what I get for trying topfunction and be a part of a
new solution.:)

This counsellor actually suggested I might want to move somewhere where they
have the money and clientele to afford to keep up with the new technologies.
She also basically said no one is going to pay me to do this kind of
exploration of helping discover and working toward of improvement of
alternative technologies.  So, I feel more and more like it's mac-vs-pc, and
conform to the old ways, or you're on your own.  Sorry for venting. Thanks
for reading.


Carolyn Haas
chaas0...@gmail.com



On Oct 26, 2010, at 3:12 PM, heather kd5cbl wrote:


Bill is responsible for that robot they call narrator and he claims

windows is accessible.  While our friends at Apple, actually have a real
screenreader built in to their system.  So, Bill is not doing anyone any
favors by making us, windows users,  go out an by screenreaders worth more
than their pc computers.  I want to put a blind fold over his eyes and make
him use his own computer with just narrator, I am sure he would not get very
far!  Also, anyone who has to use word 2010 with jaws, has to by another msa
or their job has too.  And the mac users with voiceover, cant use it at all.
So he is an easy target.  Otherwise, he would have wised up a long time ago
and had his own built in speech for windows but, he just does not care.  I
am starting to use open office and pages more and the msword does not matter
that much anymore.  Heather

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Re: Microsoft Office 2011 period

2010-10-27 Thread heather kd5cbl
Texas, there never in the office always in training and they get four day 
work weeks.  They spend loads of money on mass mailouts that never arrive on 
time, usually after the fact.  So I guess they have not heard of this little 
thing called, "e-mail."  I am starting to believe that because, mine never 
get returned when I send them an e-mail.  Heather 


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Re: pondering question

2010-10-27 Thread Pete Nalda
For what it's worth you can pretty much undo every action in file>edit>Undo, or 
cmd+Z, and deleting something in the finder only moves it to the trash folder.  
You have to empty the trash to really delete a file or files in the finder.  In 
Mail, all deleted messages are sent to the trash folder.  A dialog does come up 
when you empty the trash in the finder.

On Oct 27, 2010, at 8:13 PM, heather kd5cbl wrote:

> I was thinking today as I was using some of my items for the first time on 
> the mac, about a question.  In windows, it always asks you if you are sure 
> about doing anything and you have to tell it yes or no.  But I find that the 
> mac does not have a message saying are you sure about anything.  For example, 
> if you delete something, it does not say deleting x are you sure? It just 
> does it.  That is great but what if you did not really want it to or you hit 
> something by mistake, I am sure that might happen somewhere down the road.  
> Is there a message that one can turn on so if they make a mistake, the mac 
> will say doing x or y, are you sure before it does it?  Heather 
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kanon lide 30 portable scanner with my mac

2010-10-27 Thread Nektarios Mallas
Hello list.
I am trying to connect my kanon lide 30 scanner but nothing happens. 
Is anybody using this scanner with a mac? Are there any drivers available 
somewhere?
Thanks.
Nektarios. 

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Re: Microsoft Office 2011 period

2010-10-27 Thread Julie Russell
It seems budget is broken into admin, client services, and training. Anyway let 
us get back on topic.  Thanks to all re: mute.  I fixed with it with gestures.  
Each on this list has assisted me in learning Vo   
Julie




On Oct 27, 2010, at 9:01 PM, Jude DaShiell  wrote:

> The huge problem with rehab departments is that many of them spend way under 
> expected percentages on actual rehab.  Lots of management ends up going to 
> Conferences in aweful places like Honolulu Hawaii.  Texas as an example could 
> only provide slates styluses and braille paper for students since the state 
> had not spent the rest of their budget correctly.  I can't remember if it was 
> Dialog Magazine or Mathilde Ziegler magazine that had the report on all the 
> garbage happening around the country but am pretty sure it was one of them.On 
> Wed, 27 Oct 2010, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Well, with the budget cuts and the ressession are there any good well 
>> staffed rehab departments?  Even years ago the rehab department in CT was 
>> substandard.  They had excelent education services for school children but 
>> once you got out you were in the soup pretty quickly.
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 26, 2010, at 8:59 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Scott:
>>> Denver Co, home of the lousy broncos and the lousier rehab department.  But 
>>> hey, we do have some good computers here, and the best ones are still the 
>>> Macs.:)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Carolyn Haas
>>> chaas0...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2010, at 5:15 PM, Scott Ford wrote:
>>> 
 Hello,
May I as where you live?
 Scott
 
 
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 Heather:  I share your prospective.  I just met with a rehab counsellor who
 insists that there's really no place for the Mac in the work world.  (she
 also insists that since I'm doing ok with my Mac, I don't need a braille
 display.  Guess that's what I get for trying topfunction and be a part of a
 new solution.:)
 
 This counsellor actually suggested I might want to move somewhere where 
 they
 have the money and clientele to afford to keep up with the new 
 technologies.
 She also basically said no one is going to pay me to do this kind of
 exploration of helping discover and working toward of improvement of
 alternative technologies.  So, I feel more and more like it's mac-vs-pc, 
 and
 conform to the old ways, or you're on your own.  Sorry for venting. Thanks
 for reading.
 
 
 Carolyn Haas
 chaas0...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Oct 26, 2010, at 3:12 PM, heather kd5cbl wrote:
 
> Bill is responsible for that robot they call narrator and he claims
 windows is accessible.  While our friends at Apple, actually have a real
 screenreader built in to their system.  So, Bill is not doing anyone any
 favors by making us, windows users,  go out an by screenreaders worth more
 than their pc computers.  I want to put a blind fold over his eyes and make
 him use his own computer with just narrator, I am sure he would not get 
 very
 far!  Also, anyone who has to use word 2010 with jaws, has to by another 
 msa
 or their job has too.  And the mac users with voiceover, cant use it at 
 all.
 So he is an easy target.  Otherwise, he would have wised up a long time ago
 and had his own built in speech for windows but, he just does not care.  I
 am starting to use open office and pages more and the msword does not 
 matter
 that much anymore.  Heather
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Image Capture

2010-10-27 Thread Carolyn Haas
Hi guys:
I've gotten the drivers for my Cannon scanner.  I have image capture 
recognizing it.  It can make the scanner start, and save to doccuments.  But 
when I try to open them with Abbyy, they're blank.  Any suggestions, other than 
a new scanner?:)
TIA and have a great evening.  


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Bible Reader

2010-10-27 Thread Martin Kirchner
Hi folks,

does anyone of you got experience with the bible reader iPhone application 
developed by Olive Tree Software? Is it accessible to VO? Here in Germany lots 
of sighted people likeit, but usually that gives no guaranty for VO's 
accessibility features.

Martin

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