Re: Spell check while typing?
Hi Carolyn, Thanks for the note. Curiously I do not see a compose category in vo utilities -- I also checked the edit menu in vo utilities, but the "check spelling as you type" option is dimmed. As a reminder, the following was written in my initial post. Quote In Apple Mail under edit -> spelling and grammar -> check spelling, I specified "while typing". In VO utility I set verbosity -> spelling to announce atributes. > unquote TIA for any/all ideas. Geoff On Oct 18, 2010, at 12:40 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi Geoff: > Looking back over my settings, I notice that under the "edit" menu, my spell > eheck options are dimmed. I originally set "spellcheck while typing" from VO > utilities under compose. Don't know why that would matter, but it's > something to check out. Take care > > Carolyn Haas > chaas0...@gmail.com > > > > On Oct 17, 2010, at 9:41 PM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: > >> Hi Ann, >> >> Thanks much for the reply. I wonder what could account for the disparity? >> When I misspell a word it is necessary to read the line in order to be >> informed. I can't find an applicable setting, though your post suggests >> that one does exist. >> >> Thanks again and take care. >> Geoff >> On Oct 17, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >>> Hello Geoff, >>> >>> On 17 Oct 2010, at 14:47, GEOFF WAALER wrote: In Apple Mail under edit -> spelling and grammar -> check spelling, I specified "while typing". In VO utility I set verbosity -> spelling to announce atributes. Am I suppose to be informed as soon as I misspell a word, >>> Yes, that's how it works. I have mine set to make a sound and it even >>> detects what language I'm using and notifies me of spelling mistakes >>> accordingly. >>> or is the most deficient method to reread and listen for, the misspelled indicator or search for misspelled words and use the context menu to select replacements? If the feedback is suppose to be automatic, what setting should I tweek? >>> I have mine set to check spelling while typing and it works. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Spell check while typing?
Hello Geoff, Check Spelling can also be found in Mail Preferences under Composing. Mine is set there to "As I type", just as it is in the Edit menu of Mail. I don't know where else you could look. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Spell check while typing?
Hi Jeff, I have the same problem as you do. I set Check Spelling as you type in the Edit Menu in Mail, but I hear no sound or get any type of notification as I'm typing in Mail. Les -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
virtualbox accessibility
Hi does anyone the if virtualbox is accessible yet? Looking for a alternative to fusion finding it slow. thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Spell check while typing?
Hi Ann, Thanks for this reminder. I did go into preferences, and Spelling as I type is checked, still does not work. Les -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: IWork accessibility
Iwork is really a prgram, that I hope will become more accessible. I would also like an easy way of marking chapters and headings in an easy way, I can not figure out how to do it now. Best regards Annie. On Oct 16, 2010, at 11:46 AM, Paul Hunt wrote: > Hello everyone. I want IWork to be accessible. While working with an Apple > advisor I expressed some frustration about how to get feedback to the IWork > team. In each application there's a feedback option on the application's > menu. For example, I type vo+M to get to the menu and arrow right once to > get to the Pages menu. I arrow down to the feedback option and press enter. > The adviser told me that If I submit feedback this way it is routed to an > engineer on the pages team. I assume it works the same for the other IWork > applications and other apple products as well. > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Windels William > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 4:47 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple's event next wednesday > > Hello all, > > I agree that tables isn't handled very well in pages. > Also numbers, is accessible but it's missing some navigation-features for > everyone like you have in ms excel. > Kenotes isn't very accessible at this moment... > > Safari is very bad at this moment : braille in formfields, voiceover is > crashing when you want to give feedback on itunes :( and... busy busy busy. > There are also other sites that voiceover can't access because it's > restarting constantly. > > Also, when you have parts of text in tables, you cant jump to this parts > with (shift)vo+command+n like you can do on webpages. > So, it's my experience that you need to explore the table cel by cel and > this can be very frustrated. > > I agree also that it would be nice if you can make different configs for > different programs but I don't think they will do that. > > There should be more config-options for the braille-display: > specify the representations of different controls in the os like links, > checkboxes, comboboxes, radio buttons... > Also, the information on the brailledisplay should be independent of the > speech. > It's not always interesting e.g. to have tooltips on the brailledisplay and > the brailledisplay should not show dots 7 and 8 below a text because it's in > the voiceover-cursor. > As I understand well, everything on a brailledisplay is in the vo-cursor. If > so, it doesn't make any sence to underline. > On windows, the dots 7 and 8 are also used to show e.g. italic, bold, > underline in programs but here, this isn't possible. > > I agree that it's not the main task of Apple to make tird party applications > accessible but, it would be nice if they should make a user-friendly > environment to adjust the representation of voiceover in programs that > aren't accessible out of the box. > e.g , firefox is a very good browser but, the developers aren't willing to > make it accessible with voiceover. > So, we have only 1 fully supported webbrowser and, is something works bad > with that browser, like no, we have no alternative. > The developers of opera will help but , I > think it goes slow. > > It's normal that programs have bugs, for shore in the beginning but, they > should make a kind of interface so that we can make a complete and efficient > bugreport of something in voiceover. > > And ..., they have implemented a drag and drop function with the keyboard in > 10.6 but, it seems not to work at all. > I mean, it's not doing the same for us as for sighted users. > > About other voices in osx: it would be nice to have the same voices > pre-installed like in ios4 but, it's not a priority for me. > > I can't understand the way Apple is taking care about their software: > Since itunes version 10, workflows aren't working anymore. > We have waited several weeks for itunes 10.0.1 and the workflow problems > aren't still fixed. > At the moment. > No, it's fixed for me with the howto's on the internet but the debug-jobs > are something for Apple, not for the customers. > That's my opinion. > And also in this case: this problem belong to everyone , not only vo-users. > > So, this is the most important of my frustrations :) > > > best regards, > William Windels > > Op 15-okt-2010, om 22:53 heeft Justin Ekis het volgende geschreven: > >> I have three enhancements that I'd like to see in voiceover with the > release of 10.7. I don't expect VO to be covered in that much detail during > this particular event, we'll probably read about the VO changes on the web > site as the release gets closer. >> >> I'd like to see them make it possible to access the status menu icons of > other applications. Dropbox is one example of an application that puts an > icon in this menu that can't be accessed with voiceover. We can only access > the default icons like the clock, battery status, etc. >> >> Also, I haven't yet
Re: virtualbox accessibility
I tried to use it. unfortunately, it is not. I have to memorize the placement of each "unknown" item. once I get a VM running (like a talking linux) then I can interact with the vm directly. I have written oracle on this but never seen a useful response from them. -Eric On Oct 18, 2010, at 3:00 AM, chad baker wrote: > Hi does anyone the if virtualbox is accessible yet? > Looking for a alternative to fusion finding it slow. > thanks > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Eric Oyen - N7ZZT Phoenix Arizona Geocode: 33.488462 -112.234926 N33° 29.3077', W112° 14.0956' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: IWork accessibility
Hello Annie. If you want IWork to be more accessible, please submit feedback to Apple from the pages program. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 5:11 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IWork accessibility Iwork is really a prgram, that I hope will become more accessible. I would also like an easy way of marking chapters and headings in an easy way, I can not figure out how to do it now. Best regards Annie. On Oct 16, 2010, at 11:46 AM, Paul Hunt wrote: > Hello everyone. I want IWork to be accessible. While working with an Apple > advisor I expressed some frustration about how to get feedback to the IWork > team. In each application there's a feedback option on the application's > menu. For example, I type vo+M to get to the menu and arrow right once to > get to the Pages menu. I arrow down to the feedback option and press enter. > The adviser told me that If I submit feedback this way it is routed to an > engineer on the pages team. I assume it works the same for the other IWork > applications and other apple products as well. > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Windels William > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 4:47 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple's event next wednesday > > Hello all, > > I agree that tables isn't handled very well in pages. > Also numbers, is accessible but it's missing some navigation-features for > everyone like you have in ms excel. > Kenotes isn't very accessible at this moment... > > Safari is very bad at this moment : braille in formfields, voiceover is > crashing when you want to give feedback on itunes :( and... busy busy busy. > There are also other sites that voiceover can't access because it's > restarting constantly. > > Also, when you have parts of text in tables, you cant jump to this parts > with (shift)vo+command+n like you can do on webpages. > So, it's my experience that you need to explore the table cel by cel and > this can be very frustrated. > > I agree also that it would be nice if you can make different configs for > different programs but I don't think they will do that. > > There should be more config-options for the braille-display: > specify the representations of different controls in the os like links, > checkboxes, comboboxes, radio buttons... > Also, the information on the brailledisplay should be independent of the > speech. > It's not always interesting e.g. to have tooltips on the brailledisplay and > the brailledisplay should not show dots 7 and 8 below a text because it's in > the voiceover-cursor. > As I understand well, everything on a brailledisplay is in the vo-cursor. If > so, it doesn't make any sence to underline. > On windows, the dots 7 and 8 are also used to show e.g. italic, bold, > underline in programs but here, this isn't possible. > > I agree that it's not the main task of Apple to make tird party applications > accessible but, it would be nice if they should make a user-friendly > environment to adjust the representation of voiceover in programs that > aren't accessible out of the box. > e.g , firefox is a very good browser but, the developers aren't willing to > make it accessible with voiceover. > So, we have only 1 fully supported webbrowser and, is something works bad > with that browser, like no, we have no alternative. > The developers of opera will help but , I > think it goes slow. > > It's normal that programs have bugs, for shore in the beginning but, they > should make a kind of interface so that we can make a complete and efficient > bugreport of something in voiceover. > > And ..., they have implemented a drag and drop function with the keyboard in > 10.6 but, it seems not to work at all. > I mean, it's not doing the same for us as for sighted users. > > About other voices in osx: it would be nice to have the same voices > pre-installed like in ios4 but, it's not a priority for me. > > I can't understand the way Apple is taking care about their software: > Since itunes version 10, workflows aren't working anymore. > We have waited several weeks for itunes 10.0.1 and the workflow problems > aren't still fixed. > At the moment. > No, it's fixed for me with the howto's on the internet but the debug-jobs > are something for Apple, not for the customers. > That's my opinion. > And also in this case: this problem belong to everyone , not only vo-users. > > So, this is the most important of my frustrations :) > > > best regards, > William Windels > > Op 15-okt-2010, om 22:53 heeft Justin Ekis het volgende geschreven: > >> I have three enhancements that I'd like to see in voiceover with the > release of 10.7. I don't expect VO to be covered in that much detail during > this particular event, we'll probably read about the VO changes on the
RE: Screen Readers on the Mac
Everything performs better on the mac even Windows applications. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 5:01 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Screen Readers on the Mac Hi, I guess this is a mileage will vary kind of thing. i hate using iTunes of windows. it has more to do with iTunes on windows than it does with any screenreader. It's just slow and clunky on a PC in my experience. It was like that for me even when I had sight, and used no screenreader at all. I'm using a 2 year old Mac mini with 2GB of ram and a 2.0ghz processor. My windows machine has 4GB of RAM and a 2.54ghz processor but, iTunes performs better on the Mac. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Oct 17, 2010, at 8:53 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > Paul, > > I just wanted to say, as it's a popular miss conception, I've got no issues > using iTunes on a PC with JAWS. your comments, and many others were right in > the old days. > > days when we needed things like jTunes and things like that. > > but using JAWS 11 and iTunes 9 or preferably 10, there's no issues at all. > > having used iTunes on a Mac with Voice Over and on a PC with jaws. both > experiences were just fine, no difference whatsoever, and both sync quite > happily with either OutLook on a PC or iCal and Mail on a mac. > > people make these comments without trying things on the latest > configurations, and it makes others think that what they wish to do won't > work. or that they'll have a lesser experience. > > it will and does so without an issue. > > I would say that there are other areas where the Mac shines through such as > stability and performance of Voice Over and the fact that Voice Over uses > very little system resources. but this old card of iTunes is brought up time > and time again, and its just plain old nonsense. > > > Twitter @neilbarnfather > > Neil Barnfather > Talks List Administrator > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hunt > Sent: 16 October 2010 10:39 > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Screen Readers on the Mac > > Hello Heather. I would encourage you to start working with vo right away. > Reading is ok but doing is great. You really don't need another screen > reader on the mac because VO is part of the OS. Any other screen reader in > Windows is a compromise at best. I'm not saying that Windows Accessibility > is bad and that the screen readers don't work well. I am saying that VO > generally works better and the overall solution is more cost effective. > Think of it this way. ITunes is available for Windows and the MAC. There is > no comkparison, ITunes works much much much better on the MAC. Synching with > the IPhone is perfect. Any contact or calendar event I add on the mac synchs > flawlessly because the whole system is designed to work together. This is > true for VO on the Mac. > > I hope you have a nice day. Since we're both in Austin, maybe we can get > together and work with our macs. > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of heather kd5cbl > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 6:32 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple's event next wednesday > > I like vo but I was wondering if apple will allow other screenreader > programs to opperate on the mac. I was just thinking about this because, I > have jaws and NVDA on my windows computer. So when jaws is giving me grief, > > I can switch to NVDA which usually tells me what jaws won't or when jaws is > stuck. I like plan b if plan a does not work. Heather > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, s
RE: Screen Readers on the Mac
Hello Neil. I also used ITunes with JAWS 11 but still found it slow and cumbersome. It's probably because my machine is about five years old. I also found synching to be a real problem. If it works for you, however, that's great. For me, I've moved to the mac never to return to Windows for ITunes. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 7:54 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Screen Readers on the Mac Paul, I just wanted to say, as it's a popular miss conception, I've got no issues using iTunes on a PC with JAWS. your comments, and many others were right in the old days. days when we needed things like jTunes and things like that. but using JAWS 11 and iTunes 9 or preferably 10, there's no issues at all. having used iTunes on a Mac with Voice Over and on a PC with jaws. both experiences were just fine, no difference whatsoever, and both sync quite happily with either OutLook on a PC or iCal and Mail on a mac. people make these comments without trying things on the latest configurations, and it makes others think that what they wish to do won't work. or that they'll have a lesser experience. it will and does so without an issue. I would say that there are other areas where the Mac shines through such as stability and performance of Voice Over and the fact that Voice Over uses very little system resources. but this old card of iTunes is brought up time and time again, and its just plain old nonsense. Twitter @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hunt Sent: 16 October 2010 10:39 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Screen Readers on the Mac Hello Heather. I would encourage you to start working with vo right away. Reading is ok but doing is great. You really don't need another screen reader on the mac because VO is part of the OS. Any other screen reader in Windows is a compromise at best. I'm not saying that Windows Accessibility is bad and that the screen readers don't work well. I am saying that VO generally works better and the overall solution is more cost effective. Think of it this way. ITunes is available for Windows and the MAC. There is no comkparison, ITunes works much much much better on the MAC. Synching with the IPhone is perfect. Any contact or calendar event I add on the mac synchs flawlessly because the whole system is designed to work together. This is true for VO on the Mac. I hope you have a nice day. Since we're both in Austin, maybe we can get together and work with our macs. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of heather kd5cbl Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 6:32 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Apple's event next wednesday I like vo but I was wondering if apple will allow other screenreader programs to opperate on the mac. I was just thinking about this because, I have jaws and NVDA on my windows computer. So when jaws is giving me grief, I can switch to NVDA which usually tells me what jaws won't or when jaws is stuck. I like plan b if plan a does not work. Heather -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Spell check while typing?
The same for me. Kawal Gucukoglu On 18 Oct 2010, at 10:57 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > I have the same problem as you do. I set Check Spelling as you type in the > Edit Menu in Mail, but I hear no sound or get any type of notification as I'm > typing in Mail. > > Les > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Screen Readers on the Mac
That's definitely true about the window application on the Mac. It never crashes, and when I use to use a windows pc, crashes all the time. Kawal Gucukoglu On 18 Oct 2010, at 01:03 PM, "Paul Hunt" wrote: > Everything performs better on the mac even Windows applications. > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 5:01 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Screen Readers on the Mac > > Hi, > > I guess this is a mileage will vary kind of thing. i hate using iTunes of > windows. it has more to do with iTunes on windows than it does with any > screenreader. It's just slow and clunky on a PC in my experience. It was > like that for me even when I had sight, and used no screenreader at all. > I'm using a 2 year old Mac mini with 2GB of ram and a 2.0ghz processor. My > windows machine has 4GB of RAM and a 2.54ghz processor but, iTunes performs > better on the Mac. > > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > > > On Oct 17, 2010, at 8:53 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > >> Paul, >> >> I just wanted to say, as it's a popular miss conception, I've got no > issues >> using iTunes on a PC with JAWS. your comments, and many others were right > in >> the old days. >> >> days when we needed things like jTunes and things like that. >> >> but using JAWS 11 and iTunes 9 or preferably 10, there's no issues at all. >> >> having used iTunes on a Mac with Voice Over and on a PC with jaws. both >> experiences were just fine, no difference whatsoever, and both sync quite >> happily with either OutLook on a PC or iCal and Mail on a mac. >> >> people make these comments without trying things on the latest >> configurations, and it makes others think that what they wish to do won't >> work. or that they'll have a lesser experience. >> >> it will and does so without an issue. >> >> I would say that there are other areas where the Mac shines through such > as >> stability and performance of Voice Over and the fact that Voice Over uses >> very little system resources. but this old card of iTunes is brought up > time >> and time again, and its just plain old nonsense. >> >> >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> >> Neil Barnfather >> Talks List Administrator >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hunt >> Sent: 16 October 2010 10:39 >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Screen Readers on the Mac >> >> Hello Heather. I would encourage you to start working with vo right away. >> Reading is ok but doing is great. You really don't need another screen >> reader on the mac because VO is part of the OS. Any other screen reader in >> Windows is a compromise at best. I'm not saying that Windows Accessibility >> is bad and that the screen readers don't work well. I am saying that VO >> generally works better and the overall solution is more cost effective. >> Think of it this way. ITunes is available for Windows and the MAC. There > is >> no comkparison, ITunes works much much much better on the MAC. Synching > with >> the IPhone is perfect. Any contact or calendar event I add on the mac > synchs >> flawlessly because the whole system is designed to work together. This is >> true for VO on the Mac. >> >> I hope you have a nice day. Since we're both in Austin, maybe we can get >> together and work with our macs. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of heather kd5cbl >> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 6:32 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Apple's event next wednesday >> >> I like vo but I was wondering if apple will allow other screenreader >> programs to opperate on the mac. I was just thinking about this because, > I >> have jaws and NVDA on my windows computer. So when jaws is giving me > grief, >> >> I can switch to NVDA which usually tells me what jaws won't or when jaws > is >> stuck. I like plan b if plan a does not work. Heather >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this grou
Re: vm ware fusion and key mapping
hi scott, could you send me the name of the program used for key mapping. i accidentally deleted your e-mail. thanks. On Oct 17, 2010, at 11:11 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > I haven't tried virtual box but I have noticed that VM FUsion is faster than > parallels. Since I've started using fusion at work m other coworkers have > been switching over. Virtual Box if memory serves is a Sun product, I > wouldn't be surprised if it's pretty good. I'll definitely have to give that > a shot. > > > > On Oct 17, 2010, at 1:13 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > >> I want to see VM fusion, get faster. I find that virtual box is a lot faster >> when using the vm >> Has anyone else gotten this impression? >> >> >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados >> Sent: Saturday, 16 October 2010 8:38 a.m. >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: vm ware fusion and key mapping >> >> Google for a tool called sharp keys. I can attach it if you can't find that >> assuming that's with in the terms of the license which I think it is. (it's >> freeware) >> >> This allows you to remap keys with a simple 2 and from field then you apply, >> reboot the VM and you should be good. >> >> Sharp Keys 3 is the recent version. >> >> >> On Oct 15, 2010, at 12:08 PM, denise avant wrote: >> >> >> Hello all, >> I am wondering if anyone has experience with remappling keys in virtual >> windows. >> i am running vm ware fusion using windows 7 and windoeyes version 7.2. i am >> going to need to remap the keys when i am in the windows environment. for >> example, i need to use the alt key, as well as semilated mouse keys. i don't >> know if the control and shift keys do the same. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
does audacity work with voice over?
Hi list, I listened to a podcast in blind cool tech in which audacity was used for audio editing using voice over, and it was said it was accessible. However, I downloaded it and voice over only reads unknown. The webpage also says it is not very accessible at the moment with voice over, so I am a bit confused. Does anyone know if it is or is not accessible with voice over? in the podcast it was demonstrated and it seemed it was, but it isn't working for me. I've downloaded the beta release 3.12. Thanks and any help is appreciated, Rafaela -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mysterious second Mail Account
I have not seen this behavior before. A couple of questions: 1. Are you still receiving mail in the Maiul application? 2. When setting up outgoing (SMTP) mail you need to indicate a password for GMAIL, is this still configured? I believe you need to click on the advanced tab in the account setup to configure SMTP outgoing mail service. Also: Opening the connection doctor window under the windows tab might tell you what is going on. If you don't understand the results feel free to send them to wrote: > Hi folks, > > When I set up my Mail account, I set up only one Imap Gmail account and it > has been working fine. Yesterday, I suddenly began getting a dialog > message asking for the password to an account with the user name Null. The > only thing that occured which may have caused this was my husband went to > the Gmail web site to check his email on line. He forgot his password and > gave up. After that I began getting this dialog box. I checked my Mail > preferences under both Accounts and Advanced tabs and saw only one account, > mine. > > Any ideas on what I can do to get rid of this Null account? > > Thanks much for your help. > > Linda > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Spell check while typing?
Hi Geoff: OOPS, my bad. I should have said the check spelling while I type is in mail preferences under compose. Sorry about that. Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com On Oct 18, 2010, at 1:11 AM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: > Hi Carolyn, > > Thanks for the note. Curiously I do not see a compose category in vo > utilities -- I also checked the edit menu in vo utilities, but the "check > spelling as you type" option is dimmed. As a reminder, the following was > written in my initial post. > > Quote > In Apple Mail under edit -> spelling and grammar -> check spelling, I > specified "while typing". In VO utility I set verbosity -> spelling to > announce atributes. >> > unquote > > TIA for any/all ideas. > Geoff > > On Oct 18, 2010, at 12:40 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Hi Geoff: >> Looking back over my settings, I notice that under the "edit" menu, my spell >> eheck options are dimmed. I originally set "spellcheck while typing" from >> VO utilities under compose. Don't know why that would matter, but it's >> something to check out. Take care >> >> Carolyn Haas >> chaas0...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> On Oct 17, 2010, at 9:41 PM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: >> >>> Hi Ann, >>> >>> Thanks much for the reply. I wonder what could account for the disparity? >>> When I misspell a word it is necessary to read the line in order to be >>> informed. I can't find an applicable setting, though your post suggests >>> that one does exist. >>> >>> Thanks again and take care. >>> Geoff >>> On Oct 17, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>> Hello Geoff, On 17 Oct 2010, at 14:47, GEOFF WAALER wrote: > In Apple Mail under edit -> spelling and grammar -> check spelling, I > specified "while typing". In VO utility I set verbosity -> spelling to > announce atributes. > > Am I suppose to be informed as soon as I misspell a word, Yes, that's how it works. I have mine set to make a sound and it even detects what language I'm using and notifies me of spelling mistakes accordingly. > or is the most deficient method to reread and listen for, the misspelled > indicator or search for misspelled words and use the context menu to > select replacements? If the feedback is suppose to be automatic, what > setting should I tweek? > I have mine set to check spelling while typing and it works. Cheers, Anne > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Screen Readers on the Mac
I Know PC Mag gave the Mac the PC of the year award at one point.:) On Oct 18, 2010, at 5:03 AM, Paul Hunt wrote: > Everything performs better on the mac even Windows applications. > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 5:01 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Screen Readers on the Mac > > Hi, > > I guess this is a mileage will vary kind of thing. i hate using iTunes of > windows. it has more to do with iTunes on windows than it does with any > screenreader. It's just slow and clunky on a PC in my experience. It was > like that for me even when I had sight, and used no screenreader at all. > I'm using a 2 year old Mac mini with 2GB of ram and a 2.0ghz processor. My > windows machine has 4GB of RAM and a 2.54ghz processor but, iTunes performs > better on the Mac. > > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > > > On Oct 17, 2010, at 8:53 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > >> Paul, >> >> I just wanted to say, as it's a popular miss conception, I've got no > issues >> using iTunes on a PC with JAWS. your comments, and many others were right > in >> the old days. >> >> days when we needed things like jTunes and things like that. >> >> but using JAWS 11 and iTunes 9 or preferably 10, there's no issues at all. >> >> having used iTunes on a Mac with Voice Over and on a PC with jaws. both >> experiences were just fine, no difference whatsoever, and both sync quite >> happily with either OutLook on a PC or iCal and Mail on a mac. >> >> people make these comments without trying things on the latest >> configurations, and it makes others think that what they wish to do won't >> work. or that they'll have a lesser experience. >> >> it will and does so without an issue. >> >> I would say that there are other areas where the Mac shines through such > as >> stability and performance of Voice Over and the fact that Voice Over uses >> very little system resources. but this old card of iTunes is brought up > time >> and time again, and its just plain old nonsense. >> >> >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> >> Neil Barnfather >> Talks List Administrator >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Hunt >> Sent: 16 October 2010 10:39 >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Screen Readers on the Mac >> >> Hello Heather. I would encourage you to start working with vo right away. >> Reading is ok but doing is great. You really don't need another screen >> reader on the mac because VO is part of the OS. Any other screen reader in >> Windows is a compromise at best. I'm not saying that Windows Accessibility >> is bad and that the screen readers don't work well. I am saying that VO >> generally works better and the overall solution is more cost effective. >> Think of it this way. ITunes is available for Windows and the MAC. There > is >> no comkparison, ITunes works much much much better on the MAC. Synching > with >> the IPhone is perfect. Any contact or calendar event I add on the mac > synchs >> flawlessly because the whole system is designed to work together. This is >> true for VO on the Mac. >> >> I hope you have a nice day. Since we're both in Austin, maybe we can get >> together and work with our macs. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of heather kd5cbl >> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 6:32 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Apple's event next wednesday >> >> I like vo but I was wondering if apple will allow other screenreader >> programs to opperate on the mac. I was just thinking about this because, > I >> have jaws and NVDA on my windows computer. So when jaws is giving me > grief, >> >> I can switch to NVDA which usually tells me what jaws won't or when jaws > is >> stuck. I like plan b if plan a does not work. Heather >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit
Re: vm ware fusion and key mapping
Hi, I use sharp keys. Eric on the list also mentioned keymapper which I haven't checked out yet but will. Sharp Keys is freeware. I have a zip of it if you can't find it. On Oct 18, 2010, at 5:37 AM, denise avant wrote: > hi scott, > could you send me the name of the program used for key mapping. i > accidentally deleted your e-mail. thanks. > > On Oct 17, 2010, at 11:11 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > >> I haven't tried virtual box but I have noticed that VM FUsion is faster than >> parallels. Since I've started using fusion at work m other coworkers have >> been switching over. Virtual Box if memory serves is a Sun product, I >> wouldn't be surprised if it's pretty good. I'll definitely have to give >> that a shot. >> >> >> >> On Oct 17, 2010, at 1:13 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: >> >>> I want to see VM fusion, get faster. I find that virtual box is a lot >>> faster when using the vm >>> Has anyone else gotten this impression? >>> >>> >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados >>> Sent: Saturday, 16 October 2010 8:38 a.m. >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: vm ware fusion and key mapping >>> >>> Google for a tool called sharp keys. I can attach it if you can't find that >>> assuming that's with in the terms of the license which I think it is. >>> (it's freeware) >>> >>> This allows you to remap keys with a simple 2 and from field then you >>> apply, reboot the VM and you should be good. >>> >>> Sharp Keys 3 is the recent version. >>> >>> >>> On Oct 15, 2010, at 12:08 PM, denise avant wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hello all, >>> I am wondering if anyone has experience with remappling keys in virtual >>> windows. >>> i am running vm ware fusion using windows 7 and windoeyes version 7.2. i am >>> going to need to remap the keys when i am in the windows environment. for >>> example, i need to use the alt key, as well as semilated mouse keys. i >>> don't know if the control and shift keys do the same. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: vm ware fusion and key mapping
I also have kind of a question... what key is used for the jaws modifier key? Caps lock doesn't seam to work for me. Thanks. Oh, and I set it up in lap top mode... jaws that is. GF On Oct 18, 2010, at 8:37 AM, denise avant wrote: > hi scott, > could you send me the name of the program used for key mapping. i > accidentally deleted your e-mail. thanks. > > On Oct 17, 2010, at 11:11 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > >> I haven't tried virtual box but I have noticed that VM FUsion is faster than >> parallels. Since I've started using fusion at work m other coworkers have >> been switching over. Virtual Box if memory serves is a Sun product, I >> wouldn't be surprised if it's pretty good. I'll definitely have to give >> that a shot. >> >> >> >> On Oct 17, 2010, at 1:13 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: >> >>> I want to see VM fusion, get faster. I find that virtual box is a lot >>> faster when using the vm >>> Has anyone else gotten this impression? >>> >>> >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados >>> Sent: Saturday, 16 October 2010 8:38 a.m. >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: vm ware fusion and key mapping >>> >>> Google for a tool called sharp keys. I can attach it if you can't find that >>> assuming that's with in the terms of the license which I think it is. >>> (it's freeware) >>> >>> This allows you to remap keys with a simple 2 and from field then you >>> apply, reboot the VM and you should be good. >>> >>> Sharp Keys 3 is the recent version. >>> >>> >>> On Oct 15, 2010, at 12:08 PM, denise avant wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hello all, >>> I am wondering if anyone has experience with remappling keys in virtual >>> windows. >>> i am running vm ware fusion using windows 7 and windoeyes version 7.2. i am >>> going to need to remap the keys when i am in the windows environment. for >>> example, i need to use the alt key, as well as semilated mouse keys. i >>> don't know if the control and shift keys do the same. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Spell check while typing?
Okay thanks Anne and Carolyn, The edit menu and compose tab in mail appear to skin the same cat since changes made in one place propagate to the other. I wonder what setting Kawal, Les and I have in common? Take care. Geoff On Oct 18, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi Geoff: > OOPS, my bad. I should have said the check spelling while I type is in mail > preferences under compose. Sorry about that. > Carolyn Haas > chaas0...@gmail.com > > > > On Oct 18, 2010, at 1:11 AM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: > >> Hi Carolyn, >> >> Thanks for the note. Curiously I do not see a compose category in vo >> utilities -- I also checked the edit menu in vo utilities, but the "check >> spelling as you type" option is dimmed. As a reminder, the following was >> written in my initial post. >> >> Quote >> In Apple Mail under edit -> spelling and grammar -> check spelling, I >> specified "while typing". In VO utility I set verbosity -> spelling to >> announce atributes. >>> >> unquote >> >> TIA for any/all ideas. >> Geoff >> >> On Oct 18, 2010, at 12:40 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: >> >>> Hi Geoff: >>> Looking back over my settings, I notice that under the "edit" menu, my >>> spell eheck options are dimmed. I originally set "spellcheck while typing" >>> from VO utilities under compose. Don't know why that would matter, but >>> it's something to check out. Take care >>> >>> Carolyn Haas >>> chaas0...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 17, 2010, at 9:41 PM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: >>> Hi Ann, Thanks much for the reply. I wonder what could account for the disparity? When I misspell a word it is necessary to read the line in order to be informed. I can't find an applicable setting, though your post suggests that one does exist. Thanks again and take care. Geoff On Oct 17, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Geoff, > > On 17 Oct 2010, at 14:47, GEOFF WAALER wrote: >> In Apple Mail under edit -> spelling and grammar -> check spelling, I >> specified "while typing". In VO utility I set verbosity -> spelling to >> announce atributes. >> >> Am I suppose to be informed as soon as I misspell a word, > Yes, that's how it works. I have mine set to make a sound and it even > detects what language I'm using and notifies me of spelling mistakes > accordingly. > >> or is the most deficient method to reread and listen for, the misspelled >> indicator or search for misspelled words and use the context menu to >> select replacements? If the feedback is suppose to be automatic, what >> setting should I tweek? >> > I have mine set to check spelling while typing and it works. > > Cheers, > > Anne > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
braille display help
I have a degenerative eye condition, so I'm really feeling the need to improve my braille skills, but I've reached a catch 22. I have a hunch that getting a braille display will improve my reading by opening up much much more content to read, but on the other hand, my reading speed is so slow, that it's hard to justify paying 3-4 thousand dollars for a braille display. I'm also left handed, which i think contributes to a poor reading speed. Any suggestions, do I shell out that much money and risk not using the display, or do i continue to read the 2 or 3 books I have in the hopes of improvement? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: battery low message freezing VoiceOver
or you could mute or unmute your speakers on the mac or mac itself if you have a portable mac. On Oct 17, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > It can happen that way as well. turning VO off then back on will work in > this case as well. As I mentioned though, you may need to press VO-f5 more > than twice to get it speaking once again. > > Later... > > On 2010-10-17, at 4:20 PM, Justin Ekis wrote: > >> I have this problem as well, and my spoken alerts are turned off so that is >> not the issue here. For me,VO reads the message and I am able to close the >> dialog, but about 30 seconds later I lose all voiceover feedback. I have >> sited assistance take a look and there are still at least 10 minutes worth >> of power according to the status menu icon. Yet voiceover won't speak until >> I plug the computer in. >> >> On Oct 17, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> You can determine what this message says by turning VO off then back on >> again. As Anne mentioned, there ends up being a conflict between the Spoken >> Alerts and VO, and VO loses that battle. Just press VO-f5 to turn VO off >> then wait a couple of seconds, and VO-f5 to turn it back on and the message >> will still be there, you may need to do the Window Chooser to bring focus to >> it though. Sometimes it takes a few extra times of pressing VO-f5 and you >> won't hear any verbal feedback from VO until it turns back on,but it will >> eventually work. Simply pressing return in this case will not dismiss the >> dialog. As well, just FYI, it really says "System UI" as in System User >> Interface blah blah blah. Sorry, just thought I'd clear that up too. >> >> Later... >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On 2010-10-17, at 1:03 PM, Shen wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> Wondering if anyone is having the same problem with VoiceOver using their >>> MacBook. If the battery gets below a certain level, a message will popup. >>> It says, "System Wide Server: You are running on reserved power ...", blah >>> blah blah. >>> Everrytime when this message comes up, VoiceOver stops talking. I can't get >>> it to say anything. The only way to get it to work again is to plug in the >>> adapter. But I know that when this message pops up, it's a dialogue box and >>> there is an OK button you can press. >>> But VoiceOver stops working and I can't move to it. >>> Anyone have this problem and how you can navigate when VoiceOver stops >>> working? >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display help
Well, it is up to you! I read braille all the time but personally don't want another piece of equipment on my desk. Do you think the braille helps you or do you think you will be faster relying on speech from the computer? What do you get out of having a braille display along with the computer? Heather -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
switching to the mac, snowlepard the missing manual
Hello, I was given an extra daisy cd with the book on it! So if anyone wants it, e-mail me off list! I is not the daisy with text, it is the cd for the Daisy player. Heather -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display help
Hi Samuel, I was thinking about your predicament as I read your post. Is it possible you could look for a used display instead of shelling out the thousands it would cost to purchase a new display? Just a thought. I find that my reading ability only increased when I started reading more. I have been blind since I was three-years-old, I don't know if that helps. But I think if your eye condition is gdegenerative, having a Braille display will open up a whole new tactile world to you. Do you want a notetaker or just a Braille display? THe displays without the notetaking capability are much less expensive. I've heard that APH makes a nice display, with concave cells. I'm anxiously awaiting the arrival of the Handytech Braillino. I hope I have helped. I also read with my left hand almost exclusively. I have calluses on my hand from guitar and started using it more and more often to combat the calluses. Now my left is more sensitive than the right. Have a wonderful day. Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Oct 18, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Samuel wrote: > I have a degenerative eye condition, so I'm really feeling the need to > improve my braille skills, but I've reached a catch 22. I have a hunch > that getting a braille display will improve my reading by opening up > much much more content to read, but on the other hand, my reading > speed is so slow, that it's hard to justify paying 3-4 thousand > dollars for a braille display. > > I'm also left handed, which i think contributes to a poor reading > speed. > > Any suggestions, do I shell out that much money and risk not using the > display, or do i continue to read the 2 or 3 books I have in the hopes > of improvement? > > Thanks > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: does audacity work with voice over?
Hi, I'm running the 3.11 beta. The program itself has either glaring inconsistancies or an interface that just confuses me, but it's perfectly accessible with VO. I can record, play, stop, jump forward and back, set up my audio levels, and edit out parts that I don't want. I've gotten bogged down in splitting files to track using labels. The process is accessible, but the methodology confounds me. Hest, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in person, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2010-10-18, at 8:40 AM, Rafaela Freundt wrote: > Hi list, > I listened to a podcast in blind cool tech in which audacity was used for > audio editing using voice over, and it was said it was accessible. However, I > downloaded it and voice over only reads unknown. The webpage also says it is > not very accessible at the moment with voice over, so I am a bit confused. > Does anyone know if it is or is not accessible with voice over? in the > podcast it was demonstrated and it seemed it was, but it isn't working for > me. I've downloaded the beta release 3.12. > Thanks and any help is appreciated, > Rafaela > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display help
Hi Samuel: You bring up an interesting and potentially hot topic here. As a person who grew up relying heavily on braille, and also teaching it, I'd have to say a display would never be a bad investment; if you want to read more. Hardcopy braille is getting harder to come by, in spite of it's benefits to so many readers. A lot of people do extremely well relying strictly on audio input. Their language and spelling are impeccable. For me, it's almost a sense of literacy I get from reading on my own, without a synthetic voice affecting how I visualize characters, or how I think something should be spelled. It's what works for me, but not for everyone. If you like reading for yourself rather than other voicing, I'd have to say go for a braille display that will afford you the opportunity to experience the latest books along with everyone else and in a format you prefer. . I've read through 9 large volumes that made up the book "Gone With The Wind," and I've also had it read to me. Different experience entirely.:) Just my personal take. Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com On Oct 18, 2010, at 1:13 PM, Samuel wrote: > I have a degenerative eye condition, so I'm really feeling the need to > improve my braille skills, but I've reached a catch 22. I have a hunch > that getting a braille display will improve my reading by opening up > much much more content to read, but on the other hand, my reading > speed is so slow, that it's hard to justify paying 3-4 thousand > dollars for a braille display. > > I'm also left handed, which i think contributes to a poor reading > speed. > > Any suggestions, do I shell out that much money and risk not using the > display, or do i continue to read the 2 or 3 books I have in the hopes > of improvement? > > Thanks > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display help
Allison, Did you ever get your braillino yet? I am still waiting to try that braillenote with a Macintosh when the teacher and I have time. He's been out so we've had to make up for lost time. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Allison Manzino" To: Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Re: braille display help Hi Samuel, I was thinking about your predicament as I read your post. Is it possible you could look for a used display instead of shelling out the thousands it would cost to purchase a new display? Just a thought. I find that my reading ability only increased when I started reading more. I have been blind since I was three-years-old, I don't know if that helps. But I think if your eye condition is gdegenerative, having a Braille display will open up a whole new tactile world to you. Do you want a notetaker or just a Braille display? THe displays without the notetaking capability are much less expensive. I've heard that APH makes a nice display, with concave cells. I'm anxiously awaiting the arrival of the Handytech Braillino. I hope I have helped. I also read with my left hand almost exclusively. I have calluses on my hand from guitar and started using it more and more often to combat the calluses. Now my left is more sensitive than the right. Have a wonderful day. Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Oct 18, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Samuel wrote: I have a degenerative eye condition, so I'm really feeling the need to improve my braille skills, but I've reached a catch 22. I have a hunch that getting a braille display will improve my reading by opening up much much more content to read, but on the other hand, my reading speed is so slow, that it's hard to justify paying 3-4 thousand dollars for a braille display. I'm also left handed, which i think contributes to a poor reading speed. Any suggestions, do I shell out that much money and risk not using the display, or do i continue to read the 2 or 3 books I have in the hopes of improvement? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display help
Hum, Braille display changed my entire outlook on braille. It made the whole system more portable so that I could concentrate on what I was reading without counting down the pages Until I could get rid of the enormous stack of braille in front of me. One thing about it, if you do fork out for a full 40 sell display, you had better find uses for it. I was lucky. Braille displays are funded here. Even still, I have forced myself to make use of it. There's no way an expensive piece of kit like that will ever sit around unused. I really wish everyone could have a braille display. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in person, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2010-10-18, at 3:13 PM, Samuel wrote: > I have a degenerative eye condition, so I'm really feeling the need to > improve my braille skills, but I've reached a catch 22. I have a hunch > that getting a braille display will improve my reading by opening up > much much more content to read, but on the other hand, my reading > speed is so slow, that it's hard to justify paying 3-4 thousand > dollars for a braille display. > > I'm also left handed, which i think contributes to a poor reading > speed. > > Any suggestions, do I shell out that much money and risk not using the > display, or do i continue to read the 2 or 3 books I have in the hopes > of improvement? > > Thanks > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Spell check while typing?
Hi Geoff, I don't have the problem you and others are having with the announcement of misspelled words. I went through all my VO settings and tried to duplicate your results. I think I might have found the problem. Under verbosity in VO utilities, I have "while typing speak" set to characters and words. When I changed this to none or character, pressing spacebar after a misspelled word did not announce it as such. So try setting the "while typing speak" to characters and words and see what happens. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Oct 18, 2010, at 12:22 PM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: > Okay thanks Anne and Carolyn, > > The edit menu and compose tab in mail appear to skin the same cat since > changes made in one place propagate to the other. > I wonder what setting Kawal, Les and I have in common? > > Take care. > Geoff > > On Oct 18, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Hi Geoff: >> OOPS, my bad. I should have said the check spelling while I type is in mail >> preferences under compose. Sorry about that. >> Carolyn Haas >> chaas0...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> On Oct 18, 2010, at 1:11 AM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: >> >>> Hi Carolyn, >>> >>> Thanks for the note. Curiously I do not see a compose category in vo >>> utilities -- I also checked the edit menu in vo utilities, but the "check >>> spelling as you type" option is dimmed. As a reminder, the following was >>> written in my initial post. >>> >>> Quote >>> In Apple Mail under edit -> spelling and grammar -> check spelling, I >>> specified "while typing". In VO utility I set verbosity -> spelling to >>> announce atributes. >>> unquote >>> >>> TIA for any/all ideas. >>> Geoff >>> >>> On Oct 18, 2010, at 12:40 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: >>> Hi Geoff: Looking back over my settings, I notice that under the "edit" menu, my spell eheck options are dimmed. I originally set "spellcheck while typing" from VO utilities under compose. Don't know why that would matter, but it's something to check out. Take care Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com On Oct 17, 2010, at 9:41 PM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: > Hi Ann, > > Thanks much for the reply. I wonder what could account for the > disparity? When I misspell a word it is necessary to read the line in > order to be informed. I can't find an applicable setting, though your > post suggests that one does exist. > > Thanks again and take care. > Geoff > On Oct 17, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > >> Hello Geoff, >> >> On 17 Oct 2010, at 14:47, GEOFF WAALER wrote: >>> In Apple Mail under edit -> spelling and grammar -> check spelling, I >>> specified "while typing". In VO utility I set verbosity -> spelling >>> to announce atributes. >>> >>> Am I suppose to be informed as soon as I misspell a word, >> Yes, that's how it works. I have mine set to make a sound and it even >> detects what language I'm using and notifies me of spelling mistakes >> accordingly. >> >>> or is the most deficient method to reread and listen for, the >>> misspelled indicator or search for misspelled words and use the context >>> menu to select replacements? If the feedback is suppose to be >>> automatic, what setting should I tweek? >>> >> I have mine set to check spelling while typing and it works. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...
Re: vm ware fusion and key mapping
Hi Scott. Tell me what key mapper is like as I to date have only used Sharp keys. However, I'm rarely opening windows these days when I'm at home. I only use it now to do something on my windows mobile or to update GEO. Kawal. On 18 Oct 2010, at 16:01, Scott Granados wrote: > Hi, I use sharp keys. Eric on the list also mentioned keymapper which I > haven't checked out yet but will. > > Sharp Keys is freeware. I have a zip of it if you can't find it. > > On Oct 18, 2010, at 5:37 AM, denise avant wrote: > >> hi scott, >> could you send me the name of the program used for key mapping. i >> accidentally deleted your e-mail. thanks. >> >> On Oct 17, 2010, at 11:11 PM, Scott Granados wrote: >> >>> I haven't tried virtual box but I have noticed that VM FUsion is faster >>> than parallels. Since I've started using fusion at work m other coworkers >>> have been switching over. Virtual Box if memory serves is a Sun product, I >>> wouldn't be surprised if it's pretty good. I'll definitely have to give >>> that a shot. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 17, 2010, at 1:13 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: >>> I want to see VM fusion, get faster. I find that virtual box is a lot faster when using the vm Has anyone else gotten this impression? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Saturday, 16 October 2010 8:38 a.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: vm ware fusion and key mapping Google for a tool called sharp keys. I can attach it if you can't find that assuming that's with in the terms of the license which I think it is. (it's freeware) This allows you to remap keys with a simple 2 and from field then you apply, reboot the VM and you should be good. Sharp Keys 3 is the recent version. On Oct 15, 2010, at 12:08 PM, denise avant wrote: Hello all, I am wondering if anyone has experience with remappling keys in virtual windows. i am running vm ware fusion using windows 7 and windoeyes version 7.2. i am going to need to remap the keys when i am in the windows environment. for example, i need to use the alt key, as well as semilated mouse keys. i don't know if the control and shift keys do the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "M
Re: vm ware fusion and key mapping
You need to set the special caps lock when mapping Fusion to your Accent key then you'll get a jaws key. On 18 Oct 2010, at 16:18, Goldfinga Productions wrote: > I also have kind of a question... what key is used for the jaws modifier key? > Caps lock doesn't seam to work for me. Thanks. > Oh, and I set it up in lap top mode... jaws that is. > > GF > > > On Oct 18, 2010, at 8:37 AM, denise avant wrote: > >> hi scott, >> could you send me the name of the program used for key mapping. i >> accidentally deleted your e-mail. thanks. >> >> On Oct 17, 2010, at 11:11 PM, Scott Granados wrote: >> >>> I haven't tried virtual box but I have noticed that VM FUsion is faster >>> than parallels. Since I've started using fusion at work m other coworkers >>> have been switching over. Virtual Box if memory serves is a Sun product, I >>> wouldn't be surprised if it's pretty good. I'll definitely have to give >>> that a shot. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 17, 2010, at 1:13 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: >>> I want to see VM fusion, get faster. I find that virtual box is a lot faster when using the vm Has anyone else gotten this impression? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Saturday, 16 October 2010 8:38 a.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: vm ware fusion and key mapping Google for a tool called sharp keys. I can attach it if you can't find that assuming that's with in the terms of the license which I think it is. (it's freeware) This allows you to remap keys with a simple 2 and from field then you apply, reboot the VM and you should be good. Sharp Keys 3 is the recent version. On Oct 15, 2010, at 12:08 PM, denise avant wrote: Hello all, I am wondering if anyone has experience with remappling keys in virtual windows. i am running vm ware fusion using windows 7 and windoeyes version 7.2. i am going to need to remap the keys when i am in the windows environment. for example, i need to use the alt key, as well as semilated mouse keys. i don't know if the control and shift keys do the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe
Re: Spell check while typing?
Hi Ricardo and Geoff: This would make sense, as I have characters and words . Nice catch, Ricardo. Hopefully, that solves the quirky mystery. Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com On Oct 18, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi Geoff, > > I don't have the problem you and others are having with the announcement of > misspelled words. I went through all my VO settings and tried to duplicate > your results. I think I might have found the problem. Under verbosity in VO > utilities, I have "while typing speak" set to characters and words. When I > changed this to none or character, pressing spacebar after a misspelled word > did not announce it as such. So try setting the "while typing speak" to > characters and words and see what happens. > > hth > > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > > > On Oct 18, 2010, at 12:22 PM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: > >> Okay thanks Anne and Carolyn, >> >> The edit menu and compose tab in mail appear to skin the same cat since >> changes made in one place propagate to the other. >> I wonder what setting Kawal, Les and I have in common? >> >> Take care. >> Geoff >> >> On Oct 18, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: >> >>> Hi Geoff: >>> OOPS, my bad. I should have said the check spelling while I type is in >>> mail preferences under compose. Sorry about that. >>> Carolyn Haas >>> chaas0...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 18, 2010, at 1:11 AM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: >>> Hi Carolyn, Thanks for the note. Curiously I do not see a compose category in vo utilities -- I also checked the edit menu in vo utilities, but the "check spelling as you type" option is dimmed. As a reminder, the following was written in my initial post. Quote In Apple Mail under edit -> spelling and grammar -> check spelling, I specified "while typing". In VO utility I set verbosity -> spelling to announce atributes. > unquote TIA for any/all ideas. Geoff On Oct 18, 2010, at 12:40 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi Geoff: > Looking back over my settings, I notice that under the "edit" menu, my > spell eheck options are dimmed. I originally set "spellcheck while > typing" from VO utilities under compose. Don't know why that would > matter, but it's something to check out. Take care > > Carolyn Haas > chaas0...@gmail.com > > > > On Oct 17, 2010, at 9:41 PM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: > >> Hi Ann, >> >> Thanks much for the reply. I wonder what could account for the >> disparity? When I misspell a word it is necessary to read the line in >> order to be informed. I can't find an applicable setting, though your >> post suggests that one does exist. >> >> Thanks again and take care. >> Geoff >> On Oct 17, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >>> Hello Geoff, >>> >>> On 17 Oct 2010, at 14:47, GEOFF WAALER wrote: In Apple Mail under edit -> spelling and grammar -> check spelling, I specified "while typing". In VO utility I set verbosity -> spelling to announce atributes. Am I suppose to be informed as soon as I misspell a word, >>> Yes, that's how it works. I have mine set to make a sound and it even >>> detects what language I'm using and notifies me of spelling mistakes >>> accordingly. >>> or is the most deficient method to reread and listen for, the misspelled indicator or search for misspelled words and use the context menu to select replacements? If the feedback is suppose to be automatic, what setting should I tweek? >>> I have mine set to check spelling while typing and it works. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> m
Re: battery low message freezing VoiceOver
Wow!! I knew you could unmute the speakers if you were signing out of skype but I didn't know you could do that for the battery low message too!! Cool!! On Oct 18, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: > or you could mute or unmute your speakers on the mac or mac itself if you > have a portable mac. > > On Oct 17, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> It can happen that way as well. turning VO off then back on will work in >> this case as well. As I mentioned though, you may need to press VO-f5 more >> than twice to get it speaking once again. >> >> Later... >> >> On 2010-10-17, at 4:20 PM, Justin Ekis wrote: >> >>> I have this problem as well, and my spoken alerts are turned off so that is >>> not the issue here. For me,VO reads the message and I am able to close the >>> dialog, but about 30 seconds later I lose all voiceover feedback. I have >>> sited assistance take a look and there are still at least 10 minutes worth >>> of power according to the status menu icon. Yet voiceover won't speak until >>> I plug the computer in. >>> >>> On Oct 17, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> You can determine what this message says by turning VO off then back on >>> again. As Anne mentioned, there ends up being a conflict between the >>> Spoken Alerts and VO, and VO loses that battle. Just press VO-f5 to turn >>> VO off then wait a couple of seconds, and VO-f5 to turn it back on and the >>> message will still be there, you may need to do the Window Chooser to bring >>> focus to it though. Sometimes it takes a few extra times of pressing VO-f5 >>> and you won't hear any verbal feedback from VO until it turns back on,but >>> it will eventually work. Simply pressing return in this case will not >>> dismiss the dialog. As well, just FYI, it really says "System UI" as in >>> System User Interface blah blah blah. Sorry, just thought I'd clear that up >>> too. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On 2010-10-17, at 1:03 PM, Shen wrote: >>> Hello everyone, Wondering if anyone is having the same problem with VoiceOver using their MacBook. If the battery gets below a certain level, a message will popup. It says, "System Wide Server: You are running on reserved power ...", blah blah blah. Everrytime when this message comes up, VoiceOver stops talking. I can't get it to say anything. The only way to get it to work again is to plug in the adapter. But I know that when this message pops up, it's a dialogue box and there is an OK button you can press. But VoiceOver stops working and I can't move to it. Anyone have this problem and how you can navigate when VoiceOver stops working? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from
Re: vm ware fusion and key mapping
Well, I wasn't sure how accessible it is. I tried it and had issues navigating on the windows side. I found though that jfw key + 8 and 9 gives you the mouse clicks left and right click respectively. So my issue is solved.:) I'd say stick with sharp keys unless someone speaks up with better directions. Thanks Scott On Oct 18, 2010, at 1:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Hi Scott. > > Tell me what key mapper is like as I to date have only used Sharp keys. > However, I'm rarely opening windows these days when I'm at home. I only use > it now to do something on my windows mobile or to update GEO. > > Kawal. > On 18 Oct 2010, at 16:01, Scott Granados wrote: > >> Hi, I use sharp keys. Eric on the list also mentioned keymapper which I >> haven't checked out yet but will. >> >> Sharp Keys is freeware. I have a zip of it if you can't find it. >> >> On Oct 18, 2010, at 5:37 AM, denise avant wrote: >> >>> hi scott, >>> could you send me the name of the program used for key mapping. i >>> accidentally deleted your e-mail. thanks. >>> >>> On Oct 17, 2010, at 11:11 PM, Scott Granados wrote: >>> I haven't tried virtual box but I have noticed that VM FUsion is faster than parallels. Since I've started using fusion at work m other coworkers have been switching over. Virtual Box if memory serves is a Sun product, I wouldn't be surprised if it's pretty good. I'll definitely have to give that a shot. On Oct 17, 2010, at 1:13 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > I want to see VM fusion, get faster. I find that virtual box is a lot > faster when using the vm > Has anyone else gotten this impression? > > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados > Sent: Saturday, 16 October 2010 8:38 a.m. > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: vm ware fusion and key mapping > > Google for a tool called sharp keys. I can attach it if you can't find > that assuming that's with in the terms of the license which I think it > is. (it's freeware) > > This allows you to remap keys with a simple 2 and from field then you > apply, reboot the VM and you should be good. > > Sharp Keys 3 is the recent version. > > > On Oct 15, 2010, at 12:08 PM, denise avant wrote: > > > Hello all, > I am wondering if anyone has experience with remappling keys in virtual > windows. > i am running vm ware fusion using windows 7 and windoeyes version 7.2. i > am going to need to remap the keys when i am in the windows environment. > for example, i need to use the alt key, as well as semilated mouse keys. > i don't know if the control and shift keys do the same. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" gro
Re: Spell check while typing?
I have typing echo set to Words and the spelling is checked as I type. Cheers, Anne On 18 Oct 2010, at 22:39, Carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi Ricardo and Geoff: > This would make sense, as I have characters and words . > Nice catch, Ricardo. Hopefully, that solves the quirky mystery. > > > Carolyn Haas > chaas0...@gmail.com > > > > On Oct 18, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hi Geoff, >> >> I don't have the problem you and others are having with the announcement of >> misspelled words. I went through all my VO settings and tried to duplicate >> your results. I think I might have found the problem. Under verbosity in >> VO utilities, I have "while typing speak" set to characters and words. When >> I changed this to none or character, pressing spacebar after a misspelled >> word did not announce it as such. So try setting the "while typing speak" >> to characters and words and see what happens. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display help
Hi Isaac, Not yet, I'm still waiting for it to be shipped. My BrailleNote works with the Mac allbeit intermittently. I love the Macbook with the BrailleNote, but I think with the Braillino it will be even better. I'm anxiously awaiting the arrival of the Braillino counting down the days! Musically, Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Oct 18, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: > Allison, > Did you ever get your braillino yet? > I am still waiting to try that braillenote with a Macintosh when the teacher > and I have time. He's been out so we've had to make up for lost time. > Isaac > > > - Original Message - From: "Allison Manzino" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 3:52 PM > Subject: Re: braille display help > > > Hi Samuel, > > I was thinking about your predicament as I read your post. Is it possible you > could look for a used display instead of shelling out the thousands it would > cost to purchase a new display? Just a thought. I find that my reading > ability only increased when I started reading more. I have been blind since > I was three-years-old, I don't know if that helps. But I think if your eye > condition is gdegenerative, having a Braille display will open up a whole new > tactile world to you. Do you want a notetaker or just a Braille display? THe > displays without the notetaking capability are much less expensive. I've > heard that APH makes a nice display, with concave cells. I'm anxiously > awaiting the arrival of the Handytech Braillino. I hope I have helped. I also > read with my left hand almost exclusively. I have calluses on my hand from > guitar and started using it more and more often to combat the calluses. Now > my left is more sensitive than the right. Have a wonderful day. > > Allison > > My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! > > > On Oct 18, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Samuel wrote: > >> I have a degenerative eye condition, so I'm really feeling the need to >> improve my braille skills, but I've reached a catch 22. I have a hunch >> that getting a braille display will improve my reading by opening up >> much much more content to read, but on the other hand, my reading >> speed is so slow, that it's hard to justify paying 3-4 thousand >> dollars for a braille display. >> >> I'm also left handed, which i think contributes to a poor reading >> speed. >> >> Any suggestions, do I shell out that much money and risk not using the >> display, or do i continue to read the 2 or 3 books I have in the hopes >> of improvement? >> >> Thanks >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Spell check while typing?
Hi All. I have just changed my verbosity to characters and words spelling verbosity wrong with two tt's. So when I did a space bar, Voice over did not announce the correct spelling. It just put the right spelling in but did not say anything. Characters and words do get a bit annoying so I'm changing to wards I deliberately spell one of the words wrong and this time voice over did not correct! Kawal.only. On 18 Oct 2010, at 21:23, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi Geoff, > > I don't have the problem you and others are having with the announcement of > misspelled words. I went through all my VO settings and tried to duplicate > your results. I think I might have found the problem. Under verbosity in VO > utilities, I have "while typing speak" set to characters and words. When I > changed this to none or character, pressing spacebar after a misspelled word > did not announce it as such. So try setting the "while typing speak" to > characters and words and see what happens. > > hth > > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > > > On Oct 18, 2010, at 12:22 PM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: > >> Okay thanks Anne and Carolyn, >> >> The edit menu and compose tab in mail appear to skin the same cat since >> changes made in one place propagate to the other. >> I wonder what setting Kawal, Les and I have in common? >> >> Take care. >> Geoff >> >> On Oct 18, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: >> >>> Hi Geoff: >>> OOPS, my bad. I should have said the check spelling while I type is in >>> mail preferences under compose. Sorry about that. >>> Carolyn Haas >>> chaas0...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 18, 2010, at 1:11 AM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: >>> Hi Carolyn, Thanks for the note. Curiously I do not see a compose category in vo utilities -- I also checked the edit menu in vo utilities, but the "check spelling as you type" option is dimmed. As a reminder, the following was written in my initial post. Quote In Apple Mail under edit -> spelling and grammar -> check spelling, I specified "while typing". In VO utility I set verbosity -> spelling to announce atributes. > unquote TIA for any/all ideas. Geoff On Oct 18, 2010, at 12:40 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi Geoff: > Looking back over my settings, I notice that under the "edit" menu, my > spell eheck options are dimmed. I originally set "spellcheck while > typing" from VO utilities under compose. Don't know why that would > matter, but it's something to check out. Take care > > Carolyn Haas > chaas0...@gmail.com > > > > On Oct 17, 2010, at 9:41 PM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: > >> Hi Ann, >> >> Thanks much for the reply. I wonder what could account for the >> disparity? When I misspell a word it is necessary to read the line in >> order to be informed. I can't find an applicable setting, though your >> post suggests that one does exist. >> >> Thanks again and take care. >> Geoff >> On Oct 17, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >>> Hello Geoff, >>> >>> On 17 Oct 2010, at 14:47, GEOFF WAALER wrote: In Apple Mail under edit -> spelling and grammar -> check spelling, I specified "while typing". In VO utility I set verbosity -> spelling to announce atributes. Am I suppose to be informed as soon as I misspell a word, >>> Yes, that's how it works. I have mine set to make a sound and it even >>> detects what language I'm using and notifies me of spelling mistakes >>> accordingly. >>> or is the most deficient method to reread and listen for, the misspelled indicator or search for misspelled words and use the context menu to select replacements? If the feedback is suppose to be automatic, what setting should I tweek? >>> I have mine set to check spelling while typing and it works. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> --
Re: Spell check while typing?
Right, When I test this out, it only worked if you used words or characters and words. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Oct 18, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > I have typing echo set to Words and the spelling is checked as I type. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 18 Oct 2010, at 22:39, Carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Hi Ricardo and Geoff: >> This would make sense, as I have characters and words . >> Nice catch, Ricardo. Hopefully, that solves the quirky mystery. >> >> >> Carolyn Haas >> chaas0...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> On Oct 18, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Hi Geoff, >>> >>> I don't have the problem you and others are having with the announcement of >>> misspelled words. I went through all my VO settings and tried to duplicate >>> your results. I think I might have found the problem. Under verbosity in >>> VO utilities, I have "while typing speak" set to characters and words. >>> When I changed this to none or character, pressing spacebar after a >>> misspelled word did not announce it as such. So try setting the "while >>> typing speak" to characters and words and see what happens. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Spell check while typing?
Hi Kawal: I think there's an automatic correct thingie in there somewhere which will allow for the automatic replacement of misspelled words. But, it's sounding as if one has to have characters and words announced for this to work? I guess we could file this under "things that make you go, ""HMMM.""." :) Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com On Oct 18, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Hi All. > > I have just changed my verbosity to characters and words spelling verbosity > wrong with two tt's. So when I did a space bar, Voice over did not announce > the correct spelling. It just put the right spelling in but did not say > anything. Characters and words do get a bit annoying so I'm changing to > wards I deliberately spell one of the words wrong and this time voice over > did not correct! > > Kawal.only. > On 18 Oct 2010, at 21:23, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hi Geoff, >> >> I don't have the problem you and others are having with the announcement of >> misspelled words. I went through all my VO settings and tried to duplicate >> your results. I think I might have found the problem. Under verbosity in >> VO utilities, I have "while typing speak" set to characters and words. When >> I changed this to none or character, pressing spacebar after a misspelled >> word did not announce it as such. So try setting the "while typing speak" >> to characters and words and see what happens. >> >> hth >> >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >> >> >> >> On Oct 18, 2010, at 12:22 PM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: >> >>> Okay thanks Anne and Carolyn, >>> >>> The edit menu and compose tab in mail appear to skin the same cat since >>> changes made in one place propagate to the other. >>> I wonder what setting Kawal, Les and I have in common? >>> >>> Take care. >>> Geoff >>> >>> On Oct 18, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: >>> Hi Geoff: OOPS, my bad. I should have said the check spelling while I type is in mail preferences under compose. Sorry about that. Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com On Oct 18, 2010, at 1:11 AM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: > Hi Carolyn, > > Thanks for the note. Curiously I do not see a compose category in vo > utilities -- I also checked the edit menu in vo utilities, but the "check > spelling as you type" option is dimmed. As a reminder, the following > was written in my initial post. > > Quote > In Apple Mail under edit -> spelling and grammar -> check spelling, I > specified "while typing". In VO utility I set verbosity -> spelling to > announce atributes. >> > unquote > > TIA for any/all ideas. > Geoff > > On Oct 18, 2010, at 12:40 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Hi Geoff: >> Looking back over my settings, I notice that under the "edit" menu, my >> spell eheck options are dimmed. I originally set "spellcheck while >> typing" from VO utilities under compose. Don't know why that would >> matter, but it's something to check out. Take care >> >> Carolyn Haas >> chaas0...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> On Oct 17, 2010, at 9:41 PM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: >> >>> Hi Ann, >>> >>> Thanks much for the reply. I wonder what could account for the >>> disparity? When I misspell a word it is necessary to read the line in >>> order to be informed. I can't find an applicable setting, though your >>> post suggests that one does exist. >>> >>> Thanks again and take care. >>> Geoff >>> On Oct 17, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>> Hello Geoff, On 17 Oct 2010, at 14:47, GEOFF WAALER wrote: > In Apple Mail under edit -> spelling and grammar -> check spelling, I > specified "while typing". In VO utility I set verbosity -> spelling > to announce atributes. > > Am I suppose to be informed as soon as I misspell a word, Yes, that's how it works. I have mine set to make a sound and it even detects what language I'm using and notifies me of spelling mistakes accordingly. > or is the most deficient method to reread and listen for, the > misspelled indicator or search for misspelled words and use the > context menu to select replacements? If the feedback is suppose to > be automatic, what setting should I tweek? > I have mine set to check spelling while typing and it works. Cheers, Anne > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsu
how to embed a file to play when an email opens
Ok i don't now if this is even possible but if it is here we go. I want to embed a file to play when the email opens. How can I do this? I did this on another platform with another email client. I'd think this is possible in apple mail but I can't find a way to do this. TIA Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org face book: facebook.com/marrie youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ The early bird gets the worm. The late worm gets to live. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display help
looks like I need to start finding a used braille display myself. I am still waiting on the materials from the Hadley school to get here. -Eric On Oct 18, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi Samuel: > You bring up an interesting and potentially hot topic here. As a person who > grew up relying heavily on braille, and also teaching it, I'd have to say a > display would never be a bad investment; if you want to read more. Hardcopy > braille is getting harder to come by, in spite of it's benefits to so many > readers. A lot of people do extremely well relying strictly on audio input. > Their language and spelling are impeccable. For me, it's almost a sense of > literacy I get from reading on my own, without a synthetic voice affecting > how I visualize characters, or how I think something should be spelled. It's > what works for me, but not for everyone. If you like reading for yourself > rather than other voicing, I'd have to say go for a braille display that will > afford you the opportunity to experience the latest books along with everyone > else and in a format you prefer. . I've read through 9 large volumes that > made up the book "Gone With The Wind," and I've also had it read to me. > Different experience entirely.:) > Just my personal take. > > Carolyn Haas > chaas0...@gmail.com > > > > On Oct 18, 2010, at 1:13 PM, Samuel wrote: > >> I have a degenerative eye condition, so I'm really feeling the need to >> improve my braille skills, but I've reached a catch 22. I have a hunch >> that getting a braille display will improve my reading by opening up >> much much more content to read, but on the other hand, my reading >> speed is so slow, that it's hard to justify paying 3-4 thousand >> dollars for a braille display. >> >> I'm also left handed, which i think contributes to a poor reading >> speed. >> >> Any suggestions, do I shell out that much money and risk not using the >> display, or do i continue to read the 2 or 3 books I have in the hopes >> of improvement? >> >> Thanks >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Eric Oyen - N7ZZT Phoenix Arizona Geocode: 33.488462 -112.234926 N33° 29.3077', W112° 14.0956' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Spell check while typing?
isn't that called typing echo? -Eric On Oct 18, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi Geoff, > > I don't have the problem you and others are having with the announcement of > misspelled words. I went through all my VO settings and tried to duplicate > your results. I think I might have found the problem. Under verbosity in VO > utilities, I have "while typing speak" set to characters and words. When I > changed this to none or character, pressing spacebar after a misspelled word > did not announce it as such. So try setting the "while typing speak" to > characters and words and see what happens. > > hth > > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > > > On Oct 18, 2010, at 12:22 PM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: > >> Okay thanks Anne and Carolyn, >> >> The edit menu and compose tab in mail appear to skin the same cat since >> changes made in one place propagate to the other. >> I wonder what setting Kawal, Les and I have in common? >> >> Take care. >> Geoff >> >> On Oct 18, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: >> >>> Hi Geoff: >>> OOPS, my bad. I should have said the check spelling while I type is in >>> mail preferences under compose. Sorry about that. >>> Carolyn Haas >>> chaas0...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 18, 2010, at 1:11 AM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: >>> Hi Carolyn, Thanks for the note. Curiously I do not see a compose category in vo utilities -- I also checked the edit menu in vo utilities, but the "check spelling as you type" option is dimmed. As a reminder, the following was written in my initial post. Quote In Apple Mail under edit -> spelling and grammar -> check spelling, I specified "while typing". In VO utility I set verbosity -> spelling to announce atributes. > unquote TIA for any/all ideas. Geoff On Oct 18, 2010, at 12:40 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi Geoff: > Looking back over my settings, I notice that under the "edit" menu, my > spell eheck options are dimmed. I originally set "spellcheck while > typing" from VO utilities under compose. Don't know why that would > matter, but it's something to check out. Take care > > Carolyn Haas > chaas0...@gmail.com > > > > On Oct 17, 2010, at 9:41 PM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: > >> Hi Ann, >> >> Thanks much for the reply. I wonder what could account for the >> disparity? When I misspell a word it is necessary to read the line in >> order to be informed. I can't find an applicable setting, though your >> post suggests that one does exist. >> >> Thanks again and take care. >> Geoff >> On Oct 17, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >>> Hello Geoff, >>> >>> On 17 Oct 2010, at 14:47, GEOFF WAALER wrote: In Apple Mail under edit -> spelling and grammar -> check spelling, I specified "while typing". In VO utility I set verbosity -> spelling to announce atributes. Am I suppose to be informed as soon as I misspell a word, >>> Yes, that's how it works. I have mine set to make a sound and it even >>> detects what language I'm using and notifies me of spelling mistakes >>> accordingly. >>> or is the most deficient method to reread and listen for, the misspelled indicator or search for misspelled words and use the context menu to select replacements? If the feedback is suppose to be automatic, what setting should I tweek? >>> I have mine set to check spelling while typing and it works. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: vm ware fusion and key mapping
Hi, Key remap worked for me because I am a window-eyes user. When I installed the key remap program, it placed a numberpad on the right side of my keyboard automatically. So, I instantly had an insert key and all of my windows mouse movement and clicking functions exactly where I am used to having them without even needing to switch to laptop layout. I'm not sure what I'd do if I had to fiddly fart around with passing the caps lock key and then making it a jaws key and then switching to a laptop layout where I'd have to relearn all the keystrokes, just to use windows on my mac. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in person, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2010-10-18, at 4:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Hi Scott. > > Tell me what key mapper is like as I to date have only used Sharp keys. > However, I'm rarely opening windows these days when I'm at home. I only use > it now to do something on my windows mobile or to update GEO. > > Kawal. > On 18 Oct 2010, at 16:01, Scott Granados wrote: > >> Hi, I use sharp keys. Eric on the list also mentioned keymapper which I >> haven't checked out yet but will. >> >> Sharp Keys is freeware. I have a zip of it if you can't find it. >> >> On Oct 18, 2010, at 5:37 AM, denise avant wrote: >> >>> hi scott, >>> could you send me the name of the program used for key mapping. i >>> accidentally deleted your e-mail. thanks. >>> >>> On Oct 17, 2010, at 11:11 PM, Scott Granados wrote: >>> I haven't tried virtual box but I have noticed that VM FUsion is faster than parallels. Since I've started using fusion at work m other coworkers have been switching over. Virtual Box if memory serves is a Sun product, I wouldn't be surprised if it's pretty good. I'll definitely have to give that a shot. On Oct 17, 2010, at 1:13 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > I want to see VM fusion, get faster. I find that virtual box is a lot > faster when using the vm > Has anyone else gotten this impression? > > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados > Sent: Saturday, 16 October 2010 8:38 a.m. > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: vm ware fusion and key mapping > > Google for a tool called sharp keys. I can attach it if you can't find > that assuming that's with in the terms of the license which I think it > is. (it's freeware) > > This allows you to remap keys with a simple 2 and from field then you > apply, reboot the VM and you should be good. > > Sharp Keys 3 is the recent version. > > > On Oct 15, 2010, at 12:08 PM, denise avant wrote: > > > Hello all, > I am wondering if anyone has experience with remappling keys in virtual > windows. > i am running vm ware fusion using windows 7 and windoeyes version 7.2. i > am going to need to remap the keys when i am in the windows environment. > for example, i need to use the alt key, as well as semilated mouse keys. > i don't know if the control and shift keys do the same. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed
Re: does audacity work with voice over?
Hi Eric, but can you find all this options in the main window of the app, or do you have to look in the menus? and also, does it also read unknown to you? thank, Rafaela El 18/10/2010, a las 14:57, erik burggraaf escribió: > Hi, I'm running the 3.11 beta. The program itself has either glaring > inconsistancies or an interface that just confuses me, but it's perfectly > accessible with VO. > > I can record, play, stop, jump forward and back, set up my audio levels, and > edit out parts that I don't want. I've gotten bogged down in splitting files > to track using labels. The process is accessible, but the methodology > confounds me. > > Hest, > > Erik Burggraaf > User support consultant, > One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in person, > 1-888-255-5194 > http://www.erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2010-10-18, at 8:40 AM, Rafaela Freundt wrote: > >> Hi list, >> I listened to a podcast in blind cool tech in which audacity was used for >> audio editing using voice over, and it was said it was accessible. However, >> I downloaded it and voice over only reads unknown. The webpage also says it >> is not very accessible at the moment with voice over, so I am a bit confused. >> Does anyone know if it is or is not accessible with voice over? in the >> podcast it was demonstrated and it seemed it was, but it isn't working for >> me. I've downloaded the beta release 3.12. >> Thanks and any help is appreciated, >> Rafaela >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: battery low message freezing VoiceOver
Hi, How do you mute or unmute speakers? Courtney Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info On Oct 18, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: > Wow!! I knew you could unmute the speakers if you were signing out of skype > but I didn't know you could do that for the battery low message too!! Cool!! > On Oct 18, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: > >> or you could mute or unmute your speakers on the mac or mac itself if you >> have a portable mac. >> >> On Oct 17, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> It can happen that way as well. turning VO off then back on will work in >>> this case as well. As I mentioned though, you may need to press VO-f5 more >>> than twice to get it speaking once again. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> On 2010-10-17, at 4:20 PM, Justin Ekis wrote: >>> I have this problem as well, and my spoken alerts are turned off so that is not the issue here. For me,VO reads the message and I am able to close the dialog, but about 30 seconds later I lose all voiceover feedback. I have sited assistance take a look and there are still at least 10 minutes worth of power according to the status menu icon. Yet voiceover won't speak until I plug the computer in. On Oct 17, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, You can determine what this message says by turning VO off then back on again. As Anne mentioned, there ends up being a conflict between the Spoken Alerts and VO, and VO loses that battle. Just press VO-f5 to turn VO off then wait a couple of seconds, and VO-f5 to turn it back on and the message will still be there, you may need to do the Window Chooser to bring focus to it though. Sometimes it takes a few extra times of pressing VO-f5 and you won't hear any verbal feedback from VO until it turns back on,but it will eventually work. Simply pressing return in this case will not dismiss the dialog. As well, just FYI, it really says "System UI" as in System User Interface blah blah blah. Sorry, just thought I'd clear that up too. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On 2010-10-17, at 1:03 PM, Shen wrote: > Hello everyone, > Wondering if anyone is having the same problem with VoiceOver using their > MacBook. If the battery gets below a certain level, a message will popup. > It says, "System Wide Server: You are running on reserved power ...", > blah blah blah. > Everrytime when this message comes up, VoiceOver stops talking. I can't > get it to say anything. The only way to get it to work again is to plug > in the adapter. But I know that when this message pops up, it's a > dialogue box and there is an OK button you can press. > But VoiceOver stops working and I can't move to it. > Anyone have this problem and how you can navigate when VoiceOver stops > working? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: battery low message freezing VoiceOver
Hi Courtney, if your function keys are set to perform software actions, like I think most people who use voice over have them, press the fn key and f10 to mute/unmute sound. If they are set for hardware actions, only f10. Rafaela El 18/10/2010, a las 16:55, Courtney Curran escribió: > Hi, > How do you mute or unmute speakers? > Courtney > Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays at > 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info > > On Oct 18, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: > >> Wow!! I knew you could unmute the speakers if you were signing out of skype >> but I didn't know you could do that for the battery low message too!! Cool!! >> On Oct 18, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: >> >>> or you could mute or unmute your speakers on the mac or mac itself if you >>> have a portable mac. >>> >>> On Oct 17, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >>> Hi, It can happen that way as well. turning VO off then back on will work in this case as well. As I mentioned though, you may need to press VO-f5 more than twice to get it speaking once again. Later... On 2010-10-17, at 4:20 PM, Justin Ekis wrote: > I have this problem as well, and my spoken alerts are turned off so that > is not the issue here. For me,VO reads the message and I am able to close > the dialog, but about 30 seconds later I lose all voiceover feedback. I > have sited assistance take a look and there are still at least 10 minutes > worth of power according to the status menu icon. Yet voiceover won't > speak until I plug the computer in. > > On Oct 17, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > > Hi, > > You can determine what this message says by turning VO off then back on > again. As Anne mentioned, there ends up being a conflict between the > Spoken Alerts and VO, and VO loses that battle. Just press VO-f5 to turn > VO off then wait a couple of seconds, and VO-f5 to turn it back on and > the message will still be there, you may need to do the Window Chooser to > bring focus to it though. Sometimes it takes a few extra times of > pressing VO-f5 and you won't hear any verbal feedback from VO until it > turns back on,but it will eventually work. Simply pressing return in > this case will not dismiss the dialog. As well, just FYI, it really says > "System UI" as in System User Interface blah blah blah. Sorry, just > thought I'd clear that up too. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On 2010-10-17, at 1:03 PM, Shen wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> Wondering if anyone is having the same problem with VoiceOver using >> their MacBook. If the battery gets below a certain level, a message will >> popup. It says, "System Wide Server: You are running on reserved power >> ...", blah blah blah. >> Everrytime when this message comes up, VoiceOver stops talking. I can't >> get it to say anything. The only way to get it to work again is to plug >> in the adapter. But I know that when this message pops up, it's a >> dialogue box and there is an OK button you can press. >> But VoiceOver stops working and I can't move to it. >> Anyone have this problem and how you can navigate when VoiceOver stops >> working? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send
Re: braille display help
Hi Allison, If you use the Braillino to control the Macbook you can make some oh, boy, what do they call those? Shortcuts? It's supposed to be real powerful in controlling the nit. I never developed it because I like my braille displays straight up! I don't like those shortcuts. And it'll be bluetooth of course! the brailllino has a calculator and a word processor and you can supposedly hook up a printer and an embosser. so you can tell us more about it when you do all that stuff! Isaac - Original Message - From: "Allison Manzino" To: Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 4:50 PM Subject: Re: braille display help Hi Isaac, Not yet, I'm still waiting for it to be shipped. My BrailleNote works with the Mac allbeit intermittently. I love the Macbook with the BrailleNote, but I think with the Braillino it will be even better. I'm anxiously awaiting the arrival of the Braillino counting down the days! Musically, Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Oct 18, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Isaac Obie wrote: Allison, Did you ever get your braillino yet? I am still waiting to try that braillenote with a Macintosh when the teacher and I have time. He's been out so we've had to make up for lost time. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Allison Manzino" To: Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: Re: braille display help Hi Samuel, I was thinking about your predicament as I read your post. Is it possible you could look for a used display instead of shelling out the thousands it would cost to purchase a new display? Just a thought. I find that my reading ability only increased when I started reading more. I have been blind since I was three-years-old, I don't know if that helps. But I think if your eye condition is gdegenerative, having a Braille display will open up a whole new tactile world to you. Do you want a notetaker or just a Braille display? THe displays without the notetaking capability are much less expensive. I've heard that APH makes a nice display, with concave cells. I'm anxiously awaiting the arrival of the Handytech Braillino. I hope I have helped. I also read with my left hand almost exclusively. I have calluses on my hand from guitar and started using it more and more often to combat the calluses. Now my left is more sensitive than the right. Have a wonderful day. Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Oct 18, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Samuel wrote: I have a degenerative eye condition, so I'm really feeling the need to improve my braille skills, but I've reached a catch 22. I have a hunch that getting a braille display will improve my reading by opening up much much more content to read, but on the other hand, my reading speed is so slow, that it's hard to justify paying 3-4 thousand dollars for a braille display. I'm also left handed, which i think contributes to a poor reading speed. Any suggestions, do I shell out that much money and risk not using the display, or do i continue to read the 2 or 3 books I have in the hopes of improvement? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: vm ware fusion and key mapping
Hi, I must admit, I tried Sharp Keys earlier and successfully created my insert key. I immediately ditched WE and was able to use NVDA again. I avoid Windows so much I hardly need a number pad at all! Cheers Dave On 18 Oct 2010, at 22:37, erik burggraaf wrote: > Hi, Key remap worked for me because I am a window-eyes user. When I > installed the key remap program, it placed a numberpad on the right side of > my keyboard automatically. So, I instantly had an insert key and all of my > windows mouse movement and clicking functions exactly where I am used to > having them without even needing to switch to laptop layout. > > I'm not sure what I'd do if I had to fiddly fart around with passing the caps > lock key and then making it a jaws key and then switching to a laptop layout > where I'd have to relearn all the keystrokes, just to use windows on my mac. > > Best, > > Erik Burggraaf > User support consultant, > One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in person, > 1-888-255-5194 > http://www.erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2010-10-18, at 4:35 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> Hi Scott. >> >> Tell me what key mapper is like as I to date have only used Sharp keys. >> However, I'm rarely opening windows these days when I'm at home. I only use >> it now to do something on my windows mobile or to update GEO. >> >> Kawal. >> On 18 Oct 2010, at 16:01, Scott Granados wrote: >> >>> Hi, I use sharp keys. Eric on the list also mentioned keymapper which I >>> haven't checked out yet but will. >>> >>> Sharp Keys is freeware. I have a zip of it if you can't find it. >>> >>> On Oct 18, 2010, at 5:37 AM, denise avant wrote: >>> hi scott, could you send me the name of the program used for key mapping. i accidentally deleted your e-mail. thanks. On Oct 17, 2010, at 11:11 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > I haven't tried virtual box but I have noticed that VM FUsion is faster > than parallels. Since I've started using fusion at work m other > coworkers have been switching over. Virtual Box if memory serves is a > Sun product, I wouldn't be surprised if it's pretty good. I'll > definitely have to give that a shot. > > > > On Oct 17, 2010, at 1:13 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > >> I want to see VM fusion, get faster. I find that virtual box is a lot >> faster when using the vm >> Has anyone else gotten this impression? >> >> >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados >> Sent: Saturday, 16 October 2010 8:38 a.m. >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: vm ware fusion and key mapping >> >> Google for a tool called sharp keys. I can attach it if you can't find >> that assuming that's with in the terms of the license which I think it >> is. (it's freeware) >> >> This allows you to remap keys with a simple 2 and from field then you >> apply, reboot the VM and you should be good. >> >> Sharp Keys 3 is the recent version. >> >> >> On Oct 15, 2010, at 12:08 PM, denise avant wrote: >> >> >> Hello all, >> I am wondering if anyone has experience with remappling keys in virtual >> windows. >> i am running vm ware fusion using windows 7 and windoeyes version 7.2. i >> am going to need to remap the keys when i am in the windows environment. >> for example, i need to use the alt key, as well as semilated mouse keys. >> i don't know if the control and shift keys do the same. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to t
braille display
Actually, if my reading speed were 50 words per minute, i could get the state government here in Texas to buy one for me, but that's the whole stalemate thing. I don't improve my reading speed because there's nothing good to read, I could undoubtedly improve it with a braille display, but I don't think I can afford to buy one myself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Spell check while typing?
It is in Jaws but, on voiceover it doesn't really have a title. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Oct 18, 2010, at 5:36 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > isn't that called typing echo? > > -Eric > > On Oct 18, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hi Geoff, >> >> I don't have the problem you and others are having with the announcement of >> misspelled words. I went through all my VO settings and tried to duplicate >> your results. I think I might have found the problem. Under verbosity in >> VO utilities, I have "while typing speak" set to characters and words. When >> I changed this to none or character, pressing spacebar after a misspelled >> word did not announce it as such. So try setting the "while typing speak" >> to characters and words and see what happens. >> >> hth >> >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >> >> >> >> On Oct 18, 2010, at 12:22 PM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: >> >>> Okay thanks Anne and Carolyn, >>> >>> The edit menu and compose tab in mail appear to skin the same cat since >>> changes made in one place propagate to the other. >>> I wonder what setting Kawal, Les and I have in common? >>> >>> Take care. >>> Geoff >>> >>> On Oct 18, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: >>> Hi Geoff: OOPS, my bad. I should have said the check spelling while I type is in mail preferences under compose. Sorry about that. Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com On Oct 18, 2010, at 1:11 AM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: > Hi Carolyn, > > Thanks for the note. Curiously I do not see a compose category in vo > utilities -- I also checked the edit menu in vo utilities, but the "check > spelling as you type" option is dimmed. As a reminder, the following > was written in my initial post. > > Quote > In Apple Mail under edit -> spelling and grammar -> check spelling, I > specified "while typing". In VO utility I set verbosity -> spelling to > announce atributes. >> > unquote > > TIA for any/all ideas. > Geoff > > On Oct 18, 2010, at 12:40 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Hi Geoff: >> Looking back over my settings, I notice that under the "edit" menu, my >> spell eheck options are dimmed. I originally set "spellcheck while >> typing" from VO utilities under compose. Don't know why that would >> matter, but it's something to check out. Take care >> >> Carolyn Haas >> chaas0...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> On Oct 17, 2010, at 9:41 PM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: >> >>> Hi Ann, >>> >>> Thanks much for the reply. I wonder what could account for the >>> disparity? When I misspell a word it is necessary to read the line in >>> order to be informed. I can't find an applicable setting, though your >>> post suggests that one does exist. >>> >>> Thanks again and take care. >>> Geoff >>> On Oct 17, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>> Hello Geoff, On 17 Oct 2010, at 14:47, GEOFF WAALER wrote: > In Apple Mail under edit -> spelling and grammar -> check spelling, I > specified "while typing". In VO utility I set verbosity -> spelling > to announce atributes. > > Am I suppose to be informed as soon as I misspell a word, Yes, that's how it works. I have mine set to make a sound and it even detects what language I'm using and notifies me of spelling mistakes accordingly. > or is the most deficient method to reread and listen for, the > misspelled indicator or search for misspelled words and use the > context menu to select replacements? If the feedback is suppose to > be automatic, what setting should I tweek? > I have mine set to check spelling while typing and it works. Cheers, Anne > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this
mail questions
hi all, i notice i'm able to send e-mail to indivudals and some lists just fine. but there are a cuple lists that i get an unable to send due to an incorrect server. i haven't changed any settings. can anyone tell me why this might be happening? thanks. what is the correct cintax for sending the same e-mail to two or three people. in outlook the addresses were separated by semicolons. is it the same for apple mail? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display
Hi, You don't need a braille display to improve your reading speed. You could always get a braille book or braille magazine and find good reading mateials! there's ESPN the Magazine, PC World, the computer magazine, There's a chess magazine, there're various other magazines and books to be had from your local library. Heck, I didn't improve my reading speed with a braille display. I used braille books. Isaac - Original Message - From: "Samuel" To: "MacVisionaries" Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 6:57 PM Subject: braille display Actually, if my reading speed were 50 words per minute, i could get the state government here in Texas to buy one for me, but that's the whole stalemate thing. I don't improve my reading speed because there's nothing good to read, I could undoubtedly improve it with a braille display, but I don't think I can afford to buy one myself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display
actually I meant to add this to the other topic i posted about braille displays I forget that this is a mailing list and not a message board sometimes. On Oct 18, 7:11 pm, "Isaac Obie" wrote: > Hi, > You don't need a braille display to improve your reading speed. You could > always get a braille book or braille magazine and find good reading > mateials! there's ESPN the Magazine, PC World, the computer magazine, > There's a chess magazine, there're various other magazines and books to be > had from your local library. > Heck, I didn't improve my reading speed with a braille display. I used > braille books. > Isaac > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Samuel" > To: "MacVisionaries" > Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 6:57 PM > Subject: braille display > > > Actually, if my reading speed were 50 words per minute, i could get > > the state government here in Texas to buy one for me, but that's the > > whole stalemate thing. I don't improve my reading speed because > > there's nothing good to read, I could undoubtedly improve it with a > > braille display, but I don't think I can afford to buy one myself. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Spell check while typing?
Hi Ricardo, Okay, you hit it. I don't have anything echoed when I type. When I went into VO utilities and changed the setting to words, I received a tone when a word was misspelled. Good catch on your part! Les -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
ustream help please
Ok I'm gong crazy. i've been trying to find help docs on how to use ustream, a live video streaming. I finely got it to go live but apparently the darned thing never streamed what I was recording. I've tried contacting support but no go. there app is accessible but I'm a bit frustrated. If someone can give me a bit of help I'd appreciate it. Note: it's the broadcaster client not the viewing client. Thanks. Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org face book: facebook.com/marrie youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ The early bird gets the worm. The late worm gets to live. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
What happens when you use a PC keyboard on a Mac?
Dear All, I seldom visit this group. My wife, who is sighted, and I have decided to buy Mac Minis for Christmas. I'm wondering if I can use a PC keyboard to control my new Mac. If I do, what complications will I encounter. The reason I'm asking is because I have three PCs in my office that use the same keyboard through a KVM switch. One of these, a decrepit PC laptop that I use to send and receive mail, store my iTunes, and surf the web, is due to be replaced by the new Mac Mini. If I can use one keyboard to control them all, I'd be happy. but I'll understand if I can't/shouldn't try that. Is the Command Key interchangeable with the PC's Alt key? What about the Control and Option keys on the Mac? I'm not discussing them as they relate to being the VO keys. By the way, what keys would you use as the VO keys on a PC keyboard? Can you do that? Since I don't come by the board that often, would you mind terribly copying me privately on any responses in addition to your public postings so that I am sure to see them while those who visit this forum more regularly would still see the public posts? Thanks, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: What happens when you use a PC keyboard on a Mac?
I believe ou can. all you need to remember is that the windows key will be the cmd key and the alt key will be the options key. I think? I can't remember now as I'm just used to it now. lol! On Oct 18, 2010, at 6:50 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: > Dear All, > I seldom visit this group. My wife, who is sighted, and I have decided > to buy Mac Minis for Christmas. I'm wondering if I can use a PC keyboard to > control my new Mac. If I do, what complications will I encounter. The > reason I'm asking is because I have three PCs in my office that use the same > keyboard through a KVM switch. One of these, a decrepit PC laptop that I use > to send and receive mail, store my iTunes, and surf the web, is due to be > replaced by the new Mac Mini. If I can use one keyboard to control them all, > I'd be happy. but I'll understand if I can't/shouldn't try that. > Is the Command Key interchangeable with the PC's Alt key? What about the > Control and Option keys on the Mac? I'm not discussing them as they relate > to being the VO keys. By the way, what keys would you use as the VO keys on > a PC keyboard? Can you do that? > Since I don't come by the board that often, would you mind terribly > copying me privately on any responses in addition to your public postings so > that I am sure to see them while those who visit this forum more regularly > would still see the public posts? > Thanks, > Kevin > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: What happens when you use a PC keyboard on a Mac?
Hi Kevin: My guess is that if you use a pc keyboard, your Mac will stage a rebellion, and blow up and self destruct Ok, not really. But, having been a pc user and made the switch, I'd strongly recommend getting one of these nifty little Apple Wireless keyboards for around $60. You'll have a much easier time transitioning. But, that's just my opinion. Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com On Oct 18, 2010, at 7:50 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: > Dear All, > I seldom visit this group. My wife, who is sighted, and I have decided > to buy Mac Minis for Christmas. I'm wondering if I can use a PC keyboard to > control my new Mac. If I do, what complications will I encounter. The > reason I'm asking is because I have three PCs in my office that use the same > keyboard through a KVM switch. One of these, a decrepit PC laptop that I use > to send and receive mail, store my iTunes, and surf the web, is due to be > replaced by the new Mac Mini. If I can use one keyboard to control them all, > I'd be happy. but I'll understand if I can't/shouldn't try that. > Is the Command Key interchangeable with the PC's Alt key? What about the > Control and Option keys on the Mac? I'm not discussing them as they relate > to being the VO keys. By the way, what keys would you use as the VO keys on > a PC keyboard? Can you do that? > Since I don't come by the board that often, would you mind terribly > copying me privately on any responses in addition to your public postings so > that I am sure to see them while those who visit this forum more regularly > would still see the public posts? > Thanks, > Kevin > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: What happens when you use a PC keyboard on a Mac?
In my case I use a laptop that runs mac and windows and it works fine but that's what to be aware of that the cmd and option keys are going to be switched so there will be more of a spread between the fingers of your left hand when yo do vo commands. Good luck. On Oct 18, 2010, at 7:37 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi Kevin: > My guess is that if you use a pc keyboard, your Mac will stage a rebellion, > and blow up and self destruct Ok, not really. But, having been a pc > user and made the switch, I'd strongly recommend getting one of these nifty > little Apple Wireless keyboards for around $60. You'll have a much easier > time transitioning. But, that's just my opinion. > > Carolyn Haas > chaas0...@gmail.com > > > > On Oct 18, 2010, at 7:50 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: > >> Dear All, >> I seldom visit this group. My wife, who is sighted, and I have decided >> to buy Mac Minis for Christmas. I'm wondering if I can use a PC keyboard to >> control my new Mac. If I do, what complications will I encounter. The >> reason I'm asking is because I have three PCs in my office that use the same >> keyboard through a KVM switch. One of these, a decrepit PC laptop that I >> use to send and receive mail, store my iTunes, and surf the web, is due to >> be replaced by the new Mac Mini. If I can use one keyboard to control them >> all, I'd be happy. but I'll understand if I can't/shouldn't try that. >> Is the Command Key interchangeable with the PC's Alt key? What about >> the Control and Option keys on the Mac? I'm not discussing them as they >> relate to being the VO keys. By the way, what keys would you use as the VO >> keys on a PC keyboard? Can you do that? >> Since I don't come by the board that often, would you mind terribly >> copying me privately on any responses in addition to your public postings so >> that I am sure to see them while those who visit this forum more regularly >> would still see the public posts? >> Thanks, >> Kevin >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
a none too flattering review of the Ibook store 6 months after launch
TUAW has a review of the IBooks store that doesn't have much good to say about it, and with good reason. You will find a long list of Random House-owned publishers whose product will not be found on the IBook store due to Apple and Random's inability to come to terms on price. Note that nothing was said about Voice Over as the reason. http://www.tuaw.com/2010/10/14/the-ibookstore-six-months-after-launch-one-big-failure/ Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a none too flattering review of the Ibook store 6 months after launch
Cheree Heppe here: The review of the IBooks Store referenced here appears to have no link for anyone who disagrees with the reviewer to comment. This diverges from other reviewers I have recently read in which there are separate links for those who agree and those who do not agree with the review. Is it true, then, that one cannot order books from Amazon or read them from non-IBook resources while using an IPhone or IPad? I have gotten skeptical of reviewers. There was an IPad case made of leather that was reviewed. But, once I saw the case myself, I could only guess that the reviewer dry labbed the item, that is, looked at a photo, but didn't actually test the case, but wrote a review as if he had. The details of the review did not match the reality of the case. When NetBooks came out, one reviewer whined all over the Internet about how one design placed the mouse click buttons vertically adjacent to the left and right of the track pad, not at the bottom, the way he was used to. I don't use a mouse, but my daughter does. She had no problem with the new configuration and I certainly had no problem with the small footprint of the NetBook. My guess, that one was dry labbed, too. Back to the IBooks Store. I guess I don't mind that Project Gutenberg is featured there. There is nothing amiss with out-of-copyright books or with wanting to read them. Some of the in copyright books have alterations by editors which make them worse than abridged copies of the original texts. The rest, well, time will tell. But I'm not limiting myself to one outlet or vendor, whatever one reviewer feels he has to do. Regards, Cheree Heppe - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" To: Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 20:36 Subject: a none too flattering review of the Ibook store 6 months after launch TUAW has a review of the IBooks store that doesn't have much good to say about it, and with good reason. You will find a long list of Random House-owned publishers whose product will not be found on the IBook store due to Apple and Random's inability to come to terms on price. Note that nothing was said about Voice Over as the reason. http://www.tuaw.com/2010/10/14/the-ibookstore-six-months-after-launch-one-big-failure/ Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: battery low message freezing VoiceOver
Courtney, If you have a mac book, you hit hit f 11 to mute or unmute speakers. On Oct 18, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > How do you mute or unmute speakers? > Courtney > Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays at > 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info > > On Oct 18, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: > >> Wow!! I knew you could unmute the speakers if you were signing out of skype >> but I didn't know you could do that for the battery low message too!! Cool!! >> On Oct 18, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: >> >>> or you could mute or unmute your speakers on the mac or mac itself if you >>> have a portable mac. >>> >>> On Oct 17, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >>> Hi, It can happen that way as well. turning VO off then back on will work in this case as well. As I mentioned though, you may need to press VO-f5 more than twice to get it speaking once again. Later... On 2010-10-17, at 4:20 PM, Justin Ekis wrote: > I have this problem as well, and my spoken alerts are turned off so that > is not the issue here. For me,VO reads the message and I am able to close > the dialog, but about 30 seconds later I lose all voiceover feedback. I > have sited assistance take a look and there are still at least 10 minutes > worth of power according to the status menu icon. Yet voiceover won't > speak until I plug the computer in. > > On Oct 17, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > > Hi, > > You can determine what this message says by turning VO off then back on > again. As Anne mentioned, there ends up being a conflict between the > Spoken Alerts and VO, and VO loses that battle. Just press VO-f5 to turn > VO off then wait a couple of seconds, and VO-f5 to turn it back on and > the message will still be there, you may need to do the Window Chooser to > bring focus to it though. Sometimes it takes a few extra times of > pressing VO-f5 and you won't hear any verbal feedback from VO until it > turns back on,but it will eventually work. Simply pressing return in > this case will not dismiss the dialog. As well, just FYI, it really says > "System UI" as in System User Interface blah blah blah. Sorry, just > thought I'd clear that up too. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On 2010-10-17, at 1:03 PM, Shen wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> Wondering if anyone is having the same problem with VoiceOver using >> their MacBook. If the battery gets below a certain level, a message will >> popup. It says, "System Wide Server: You are running on reserved power >> ...", blah blah blah. >> Everrytime when this message comes up, VoiceOver stops talking. I can't >> get it to say anything. The only way to get it to work again is to plug >> in the adapter. But I know that when this message pops up, it's a >> dialogue box and there is an OK button you can press. >> But VoiceOver stops working and I can't move to it. >> Anyone have this problem and how you can navigate when VoiceOver stops >> working? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionari
Re: battery low message freezing VoiceOver
Depending your set up you might have to hit fn pluss f11. Good luck. On Oct 18, 2010, at 10:38 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: > Courtney, > If you have a mac book, you hit hit f 11 to mute or unmute speakers. > On Oct 18, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> How do you mute or unmute speakers? >> Courtney >> Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays >> at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info >> >> On Oct 18, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: >> >>> Wow!! I knew you could unmute the speakers if you were signing out of skype >>> but I didn't know you could do that for the battery low message too!! >>> Cool!! >>> On Oct 18, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: >>> or you could mute or unmute your speakers on the mac or mac itself if you have a portable mac. On Oct 17, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > It can happen that way as well. turning VO off then back on will work in > this case as well. As I mentioned though, you may need to press VO-f5 > more than twice to get it speaking once again. > > Later... > > On 2010-10-17, at 4:20 PM, Justin Ekis wrote: > >> I have this problem as well, and my spoken alerts are turned off so that >> is not the issue here. For me,VO reads the message and I am able to >> close the dialog, but about 30 seconds later I lose all voiceover >> feedback. I have sited assistance take a look and there are still at >> least 10 minutes worth of power according to the status menu icon. Yet >> voiceover won't speak until I plug the computer in. >> >> On Oct 17, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> You can determine what this message says by turning VO off then back on >> again. As Anne mentioned, there ends up being a conflict between the >> Spoken Alerts and VO, and VO loses that battle. Just press VO-f5 to >> turn VO off then wait a couple of seconds, and VO-f5 to turn it back on >> and the message will still be there, you may need to do the Window >> Chooser to bring focus to it though. Sometimes it takes a few extra >> times of pressing VO-f5 and you won't hear any verbal feedback from VO >> until it turns back on,but it will eventually work. Simply pressing >> return in this case will not dismiss the dialog. As well, just FYI, it >> really says "System UI" as in System User Interface blah blah blah. >> Sorry, just thought I'd clear that up too. >> >> Later... >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On 2010-10-17, at 1:03 PM, Shen wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> Wondering if anyone is having the same problem with VoiceOver using >>> their MacBook. If the battery gets below a certain level, a message >>> will popup. It says, "System Wide Server: You are running on reserved >>> power ...", blah blah blah. >>> Everrytime when this message comes up, VoiceOver stops talking. I can't >>> get it to say anything. The only way to get it to work again is to plug >>> in the adapter. But I know that when this message pops up, it's a >>> dialogue box and there is an OK button you can press. >>> But VoiceOver stops working and I can't move to it. >>> Anyone have this problem and how you can navigate when VoiceOver stops >>> working? >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this grou
Re: battery low message freezing VoiceOver
Sorry I meant if you have use fn keys as they are printed with otu the fn key checked in keyboard I think. it's fn plus f10 not f11. Good luck. On Oct 18, 2010, at 10:38 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: > Courtney, > If you have a mac book, you hit hit f 11 to mute or unmute speakers. > On Oct 18, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> How do you mute or unmute speakers? >> Courtney >> Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays >> at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info >> >> On Oct 18, 2010, at 4:55 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: >> >>> Wow!! I knew you could unmute the speakers if you were signing out of skype >>> but I didn't know you could do that for the battery low message too!! >>> Cool!! >>> On Oct 18, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: >>> or you could mute or unmute your speakers on the mac or mac itself if you have a portable mac. On Oct 17, 2010, at 7:26 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > It can happen that way as well. turning VO off then back on will work in > this case as well. As I mentioned though, you may need to press VO-f5 > more than twice to get it speaking once again. > > Later... > > On 2010-10-17, at 4:20 PM, Justin Ekis wrote: > >> I have this problem as well, and my spoken alerts are turned off so that >> is not the issue here. For me,VO reads the message and I am able to >> close the dialog, but about 30 seconds later I lose all voiceover >> feedback. I have sited assistance take a look and there are still at >> least 10 minutes worth of power according to the status menu icon. Yet >> voiceover won't speak until I plug the computer in. >> >> On Oct 17, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> You can determine what this message says by turning VO off then back on >> again. As Anne mentioned, there ends up being a conflict between the >> Spoken Alerts and VO, and VO loses that battle. Just press VO-f5 to >> turn VO off then wait a couple of seconds, and VO-f5 to turn it back on >> and the message will still be there, you may need to do the Window >> Chooser to bring focus to it though. Sometimes it takes a few extra >> times of pressing VO-f5 and you won't hear any verbal feedback from VO >> until it turns back on,but it will eventually work. Simply pressing >> return in this case will not dismiss the dialog. As well, just FYI, it >> really says "System UI" as in System User Interface blah blah blah. >> Sorry, just thought I'd clear that up too. >> >> Later... >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On 2010-10-17, at 1:03 PM, Shen wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> Wondering if anyone is having the same problem with VoiceOver using >>> their MacBook. If the battery gets below a certain level, a message >>> will popup. It says, "System Wide Server: You are running on reserved >>> power ...", blah blah blah. >>> Everrytime when this message comes up, VoiceOver stops talking. I can't >>> get it to say anything. The only way to get it to work again is to plug >>> in the adapter. But I know that when this message pops up, it's a >>> dialogue box and there is an OK button you can press. >>> But VoiceOver stops working and I can't move to it. >>> Anyone have this problem and how you can navigate when VoiceOver stops >>> working? >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed t
