Re: My dumb question for the day
Hello Carolyn, This is far from a dumb question. However, I have the answer for you. The problem is with GMail. If you send your message through a different SMTP server rather than the GMail one, you'll see your own messages, but when you send through the GMail SMTP server, you don't. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Got my recording program.
good. now go learn that puppy! I want to hear you being a pro in 2 weeks! :) -Eric On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:02 PM, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hello all, well i've finely done it i have just bought amadayus pro. I have > to say i am really happy with it all i have to do now is learn how to use it > properly now as all i have really done so far is record tracks but not done > anything with them. I look forward to having a go at this. I do a lot of > singing so this is going to be very useful for me. > > Ian McNamara. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Eric Oyen - N7ZZT Phoenix Arizona Geocode: 33.488462 -112.234926 N33° 29.3077', W112° 14.0956' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
rar extractors
Hi is there a accessible rar extractor? I currently use stuffit expander but its been crashing lately when extracting rar files. thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: My dumb question for the day
Hi Carolyn! Ricardo is right you might want to look at the compose button inside the tool bar of preferences you can set it to cc yourself! Otherwise Annes suggestion could be the one! Colin On 15 Oct 2010, at 04:27, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > I think it might be a gmail setting. But I believe you can have apple mail > CC yourself if you don't want to hunt for the option in gmail. Go to mail > prefs and look under compose. > > hth > > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > > > > > > On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:30 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Hi guys: >> I have a question that is more of a curiosity than need. I never see my own >> posts back in my inbox in applemail. I guess I don't need to read what I've >> written, but I'm wondering why they don't come back to me. If I don't get >> replies, I'd never know if they were reaching anyone:) >> >> Is this a Mac setting, a gmail setting, or the norm? >> >> Thanks >> >> >> Carolyn Haas >> chaas0...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Got my recording program.
Hello Ian. Where did you get it and how much does it cost? Thanks so much. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ian McNamara Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:02 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Got my recording program. Hello all, well i've finely done it i have just bought amadayus pro. I have to say i am really happy with it all i have to do now is learn how to use it properly now as all i have really done so far is record tracks but not done anything with them. I look forward to having a go at this. I do a lot of singing so this is going to be very useful for me. Ian McNamara. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Conversations View
Yes it certainly is. SImply go to the view menu, and check organize by thread. On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > > > All, > > is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation view, > in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so that > you can delete entire threads if you wish. > > I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail address I > have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. > > thanks. > > > > Twitter @neilbarnfather > > Neil Barnfather > Talks List Administrator > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Conversations View
All, is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation view, in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so that you can delete entire threads if you wish. I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail address I have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. thanks. Twitter @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Conversations View
Hi Neil. When you go to the view Menu, make sure that the headers are none so when you open a thread your message reads automaticly and you do shict command h and you voice over lect arrow to get to your headers and interact if you want to know who the message is from. Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu On 15 Oct 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > Yes it certainly is. SImply go to the view menu, and check organize by > thread. > On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > >> >> >> All, >> >> is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation view, >> in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so that >> you can delete entire threads if you wish. >> >> I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail address I >> have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. >> >> thanks. >> >> >> >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> >> Neil Barnfather >> Talks List Administrator >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Receiving one's own posts to googlegroups -> was My dumb question for the day
>> Strange! I exclusively use the gmail server and never cc myself, yet >> receive all posts in the folder (aka label) I set up for the list, so maybe >> a filter is the answer after all? >> >> >> On Oct 15, 2010, at 6:06 AM, Colin M wrote: >> >>> Hi Carolyn! >>> Ricardo is right you might want to look at the compose button inside the >>> tool bar of preferences you can set it to cc yourself! >>> Otherwise Annes suggestion could be the one! >>> Colin >>> On 15 Oct 2010, at 04:27, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> Hi, I think it might be a gmail setting. But I believe you can have apple mail CC yourself if you don't want to hunt for the option in gmail. Go to mail prefs and look under compose. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >>> >> On Oct 15, 2010, at 12:07 AM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: >> >>> Very puzzling -- I always received my own posts to this and the ViPhone >>> list, hence when this question came up earlier I checked the settings in >>> GoogleGroups without finding anything applicable. >>> >>> This may not be relevant, but I set up filters in gMail; the one for this >>> list for example checks for the list address in the to or cc fields and >>> sends all matches to a label named MacVisionaries. It would be interesting >>> to learn whether the filter affects receipt of one's own posts? >>> >>> Take care. >>> Geoff >>> >>> >>> On Oct 14, 2010, at 11:27 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> Hi, I think it might be a gmail setting. But I believe you can have apple mail CC yourself if you don't want to hunt for the option in gmail. Go to mail prefs and look under compose. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:30 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi guys: > I have a question that is more of a curiosity than need. I never see my > own posts back in my inbox in applemail. I guess I don't need to read > what I've written, but I'm wondering why they don't come back to me. If > I don't get replies, I'd never know if they were reaching anyone:) > > Is this a Mac setting, a gmail setting, or the norm? > > Thanks > > > Carolyn Haas > chaas0...@gmail.com >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Receiving one's own posts to googlegroups -> was My dumb question for the day
I'm not sure, I use to use pop with gmail, and I got my sent messages back too. Total head scratcher. :) Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Oct 15, 2010, at 11:09 AM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: >>> Strange! I exclusively use the gmail server and never cc myself, yet >>> receive all posts in the folder (aka label) I set up for the list, so maybe >>> a filter is the answer after all? >>> >>> >>> On Oct 15, 2010, at 6:06 AM, Colin M wrote: >>> Hi Carolyn! Ricardo is right you might want to look at the compose button inside the tool bar of preferences you can set it to cc yourself! Otherwise Annes suggestion could be the one! Colin On 15 Oct 2010, at 04:27, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > I think it might be a gmail setting. But I believe you can have apple > mail CC yourself if you don't want to hunt for the option in gmail. Go > to mail prefs and look under compose. > > hth > > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >>> On Oct 15, 2010, at 12:07 AM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: >>> Very puzzling -- I always received my own posts to this and the ViPhone list, hence when this question came up earlier I checked the settings in GoogleGroups without finding anything applicable. This may not be relevant, but I set up filters in gMail; the one for this list for example checks for the list address in the to or cc fields and sends all matches to a label named MacVisionaries. It would be interesting to learn whether the filter affects receipt of one's own posts? Take care. Geoff On Oct 14, 2010, at 11:27 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > I think it might be a gmail setting. But I believe you can have apple > mail CC yourself if you don't want to hunt for the option in gmail. Go > to mail prefs and look under compose. > > hth > > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > > > > > > On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:30 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Hi guys: >> I have a question that is more of a curiosity than need. I never see my >> own posts back in my inbox in applemail. I guess I don't need to read >> what I've written, but I'm wondering why they don't come back to me. If >> I don't get replies, I'd never know if they were reaching anyone:) >> >> Is this a Mac setting, a gmail setting, or the norm? >> >> Thanks >> >> >> Carolyn Haas >> chaas0...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Receiving one's own posts to googlegroups -> was My dumb question for the day
Hi Geoff! I think that setting might be set by default, I'm still using my gmail from when i installed it and never new about that setting until this thread was brought up! So if you have not gone in to compose in the tool bar that setting might be set that way for you! Colin On 15 Oct 2010, at 16:09, GEOFF WAALER wrote: >>> Strange! I exclusively use the gmail server and never cc myself, yet >>> receive all posts in the folder (aka label) I set up for the list, so maybe >>> a filter is the answer after all? >>> >>> >>> On Oct 15, 2010, at 6:06 AM, Colin M wrote: >>> Hi Carolyn! Ricardo is right you might want to look at the compose button inside the tool bar of preferences you can set it to cc yourself! Otherwise Annes suggestion could be the one! Colin On 15 Oct 2010, at 04:27, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > I think it might be a gmail setting. But I believe you can have apple > mail CC yourself if you don't want to hunt for the option in gmail. Go > to mail prefs and look under compose. > > hth > > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >>> On Oct 15, 2010, at 12:07 AM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: >>> Very puzzling -- I always received my own posts to this and the ViPhone list, hence when this question came up earlier I checked the settings in GoogleGroups without finding anything applicable. This may not be relevant, but I set up filters in gMail; the one for this list for example checks for the list address in the to or cc fields and sends all matches to a label named MacVisionaries. It would be interesting to learn whether the filter affects receipt of one's own posts? Take care. Geoff On Oct 14, 2010, at 11:27 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > I think it might be a gmail setting. But I believe you can have apple > mail CC yourself if you don't want to hunt for the option in gmail. Go > to mail prefs and look under compose. > > hth > > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > > > > > > On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:30 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Hi guys: >> I have a question that is more of a curiosity than need. I never see my >> own posts back in my inbox in applemail. I guess I don't need to read >> what I've written, but I'm wondering why they don't come back to me. If >> I don't get replies, I'd never know if they were reaching anyone:) >> >> Is this a Mac setting, a gmail setting, or the norm? >> >> Thanks >> >> >> Carolyn Haas >> chaas0...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Receiving one's own posts to googlegroups -> was My dumb question for the day
Ok, even stranger: I set up to bcc myself, and I'm still not getting them. Guess It's time to learn more about filters?:) Thanks everyone. Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com On Oct 15, 2010, at 9:22 AM, Colin M wrote: > Hi Geoff! > I think that setting might be set by default, I'm still using my gmail from > when i installed it and never new about that setting until this thread was > brought up! > So if you have not gone in to compose in the tool bar that setting might be > set that way for you! > Colin > On 15 Oct 2010, at 16:09, GEOFF WAALER wrote: > Strange! I exclusively use the gmail server and never cc myself, yet receive all posts in the folder (aka label) I set up for the list, so maybe a filter is the answer after all? On Oct 15, 2010, at 6:06 AM, Colin M wrote: > Hi Carolyn! > Ricardo is right you might want to look at the compose button inside the > tool bar of preferences you can set it to cc yourself! > Otherwise Annes suggestion could be the one! > Colin > On 15 Oct 2010, at 04:27, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I think it might be a gmail setting. But I believe you can have apple >> mail CC yourself if you don't want to hunt for the option in gmail. Go >> to mail prefs and look under compose. >> >> hth >> >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > On Oct 15, 2010, at 12:07 AM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: > Very puzzling -- I always received my own posts to this and the ViPhone > list, hence when this question came up earlier I checked the settings in > GoogleGroups without finding anything applicable. > > This may not be relevant, but I set up filters in gMail; the one for this > list for example checks for the list address in the to or cc fields and > sends all matches to a label named MacVisionaries. It would be > interesting to learn whether the filter affects receipt of one's own > posts? > > Take care. > Geoff > > > On Oct 14, 2010, at 11:27 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I think it might be a gmail setting. But I believe you can have apple >> mail CC yourself if you don't want to hunt for the option in gmail. Go >> to mail prefs and look under compose. >> >> hth >> >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:30 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: >> >>> Hi guys: >>> I have a question that is more of a curiosity than need. I never see >>> my own posts back in my inbox in applemail. I guess I don't need to >>> read what I've written, but I'm wondering why they don't come back to >>> me. If I don't get replies, I'd never know if they were reaching >>> anyone:) >>> >>> Is this a Mac setting, a gmail setting, or the norm? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> Carolyn Haas >>> chaas0...@gmail.com > >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Receiving one's own posts to googlegroups -> was My dumb question for the day
Hi Carolyn! Have you set up your own card in address book! If not that might also be the problem! Colin On 15 Oct 2010, at 16:41, Carolyn Haas wrote: > Ok, even stranger: I set up to bcc myself, and I'm still not getting them. > Guess It's time to learn more about filters?:) > > > Thanks everyone. Carolyn Haas > chaas0...@gmail.com > > > > On Oct 15, 2010, at 9:22 AM, Colin M wrote: > >> Hi Geoff! >> I think that setting might be set by default, I'm still using my gmail from >> when i installed it and never new about that setting until this thread was >> brought up! >> So if you have not gone in to compose in the tool bar that setting might be >> set that way for you! >> Colin >> On 15 Oct 2010, at 16:09, GEOFF WAALER wrote: >> > Strange! I exclusively use the gmail server and never cc myself, yet > receive all posts in the folder (aka label) I set up for the list, so > maybe a filter is the answer after all? > > > On Oct 15, 2010, at 6:06 AM, Colin M wrote: > >> Hi Carolyn! >> Ricardo is right you might want to look at the compose button inside the >> tool bar of preferences you can set it to cc yourself! >> Otherwise Annes suggestion could be the one! >> Colin >> On 15 Oct 2010, at 04:27, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I think it might be a gmail setting. But I believe you can have apple >>> mail CC yourself if you don't want to hunt for the option in gmail. Go >>> to mail prefs and look under compose. >>> >>> hth >>> >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >> > On Oct 15, 2010, at 12:07 AM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: > >> Very puzzling -- I always received my own posts to this and the ViPhone >> list, hence when this question came up earlier I checked the settings in >> GoogleGroups without finding anything applicable. >> >> This may not be relevant, but I set up filters in gMail; the one for >> this list for example checks for the list address in the to or cc fields >> and sends all matches to a label named MacVisionaries. It would be >> interesting to learn whether the filter affects receipt of one's own >> posts? >> >> Take care. >> Geoff >> >> >> On Oct 14, 2010, at 11:27 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I think it might be a gmail setting. But I believe you can have apple >>> mail CC yourself if you don't want to hunt for the option in gmail. Go >>> to mail prefs and look under compose. >>> >>> hth >>> >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:30 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: >>> Hi guys: I have a question that is more of a curiosity than need. I never see my own posts back in my inbox in applemail. I guess I don't need to read what I've written, but I'm wondering why they don't come back to me. If I don't get replies, I'd never know if they were reaching anyone:) Is this a Mac setting, a gmail setting, or the norm? Thanks Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com >> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mac
Re: Receiving one's own posts to googlegroups -> was My dumb question for the day
Hi Colin: I believe I have a card there. I'll check, though. I also tried messing with a filter, but it didn't look very promising. Thanks Carolyn Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com On Oct 15, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Colin M wrote: > Hi Carolyn! > Have you set up your own card in address book! > If not that might also be the problem! > Colin > On 15 Oct 2010, at 16:41, Carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Ok, even stranger: I set up to bcc myself, and I'm still not getting them. >> Guess It's time to learn more about filters?:) >> >> >> Thanks everyone. Carolyn Haas >> chaas0...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> On Oct 15, 2010, at 9:22 AM, Colin M wrote: >> >>> Hi Geoff! >>> I think that setting might be set by default, I'm still using my gmail from >>> when i installed it and never new about that setting until this thread was >>> brought up! >>> So if you have not gone in to compose in the tool bar that setting might be >>> set that way for you! >>> Colin >>> On 15 Oct 2010, at 16:09, GEOFF WAALER wrote: >>> >> Strange! I exclusively use the gmail server and never cc myself, yet >> receive all posts in the folder (aka label) I set up for the list, so >> maybe a filter is the answer after all? >> >> >> On Oct 15, 2010, at 6:06 AM, Colin M wrote: >> >>> Hi Carolyn! >>> Ricardo is right you might want to look at the compose button inside >>> the tool bar of preferences you can set it to cc yourself! >>> Otherwise Annes suggestion could be the one! >>> Colin >>> On 15 Oct 2010, at 04:27, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> Hi, I think it might be a gmail setting. But I believe you can have apple mail CC yourself if you don't want to hunt for the option in gmail. Go to mail prefs and look under compose. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >>> >> On Oct 15, 2010, at 12:07 AM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: >> >>> Very puzzling -- I always received my own posts to this and the ViPhone >>> list, hence when this question came up earlier I checked the settings >>> in GoogleGroups without finding anything applicable. >>> >>> This may not be relevant, but I set up filters in gMail; the one for >>> this list for example checks for the list address in the to or cc >>> fields and sends all matches to a label named MacVisionaries. It would >>> be interesting to learn whether the filter affects receipt of one's own >>> posts? >>> >>> Take care. >>> Geoff >>> >>> >>> On Oct 14, 2010, at 11:27 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> Hi, I think it might be a gmail setting. But I believe you can have apple mail CC yourself if you don't want to hunt for the option in gmail. Go to mail prefs and look under compose. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:30 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi guys: > I have a question that is more of a curiosity than need. I never see > my own posts back in my inbox in applemail. I guess I don't need to > read what I've written, but I'm wondering why they don't come back to > me. If I don't get replies, I'd never know if they were reaching > anyone:) > > Is this a Mac setting, a gmail setting, or the norm? > > Thanks > > > Carolyn Haas > chaas0...@gmail.com >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.g
Test, please ignore
Ok, let's see if I've fixed this. Thanks everyone.:) Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: rar extractors
Have you tried TheUnarchiver? It's free... -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of chad baker Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 4:54 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: rar extractors Hi is there a accessible rar extractor? I currently use stuffit expander but its been crashing lately when extracting rar files. thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Test, please ignore
Hi Carolyn! Ignore you never! :] Anyway in address book select your card, and then go to the menu vo+m scroll right until you get to card then scroll down and there should be an option to [ make this my card ] vo+space bar that and that should be it! hth Colin On 15 Oct 2010, at 17:19, Carolyn Haas wrote: > Ok, let's see if I've fixed this. Thanks everyone.:) > > > Carolyn Haas > chaas0...@gmail.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Conversations View
I tried this technique, but decided to restore the default of showing the headers because for me it seems more efficient to exploit the preview pane. Under the navigation tab of voiceOver utility I unchecked the box labeled: "Automatically interact when using tab key". This way I am not interacting with the mailbox view, and all fields usually are announced as was the case with Outlook. In the event that VO only says "blank" I can either press up and down arrow or read the fields with "move right" (vo+arrow keys or left/right flicks via trackpad commander) to ascertain the information. To read in the preview pane I can press either trackpad touch + control or vo+j. For some reason the text is only read automatically when I use the latter even though they are purportedly equivelent, but I digress. I generally use the trackpad to quickly skim a message. This way I can quickly skip the junk at the top about reading in a web browser, etc. Also the two finger flick down will read to the end or two finger flick up reads from the top. Not sure what the keyboard equivelent is for this -- probably involves a twenty key combination . Take care. Geoff. On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Hi Neil. > > When you go to the view Menu, make sure that the headers are none so when you > open a thread your message reads automaticly and you do shict command h and > you voice over lect arrow to get to your headers and interact if you want to > know who the message is from. > > Kawal. > > Kawal Gucukoglu > > On 15 Oct 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > >> Yes it certainly is. SImply go to the view menu, and check organize by >> thread. >> On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> All, >>> >>> is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation view, >>> in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so that >>> you can delete entire threads if you wish. >>> >>> I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail address I >>> have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. >>> >>> thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> Twitter @neilbarnfather >>> >>> Neil Barnfather >>> Talks List Administrator >>> >>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Aborting send during spell check.
Greetings, I have "check spelling before sending" selected in the edit menu. In Outlook if I realized that I didn't address my note properly or could have phrased something differently I could abort sending during the spellcheck process. I have nmot found a way to accomplish this in AppleMail. It seems that once I press command-shift-d it's going with or without a spellcheck. Am I missing something? TIA for any ideas and best regards. Geoff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
iphone: dropbox and file editing
Hi all, I was wondering if I could edit office documents on my iphone. I can transfer them with dropbox, but, there seems no way to write in documents that are opened from inside the dropbox. I also have file app pro but I don't know if this program allows me to edit office-documents. Also, fileapp pro has no connection with dropbox? I mean, Can I simply receive the files of my dropbox-acount in fileapp pro or works fileapp pro only with the transfers from ftp? Thanx for your help, William -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Apple's event next wednesday
Hi all. As you might be aware, apple are holding a "Back To The Mac" event next Wednesday at 10 eastern in Cupertino, California. There are rumours of possible upgrades to the MacBook Air and also the unveiling of MAC OS X 10.7. So, what would you like to see included in next version of the OS, either generally or VoiceOver specific? Personally, I'd like to see a female voice that is as good as Alex, and to have voices in other languages even if it meant licensing them from nuance as they have done in iOS. Accessibility improvements to garage band would be welcome, as well as making iWeb accessible. The last major thing I can think of is to finally fix the issue of VO randomly resetting itself. I'm sure they'll come up with a load of things I haven't even thought of. So what do you all think? Dannie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Got my recording program.
Hi Ian, Congratulations on Amadues Pro. I think it will be great for you. I use it every day and I love it! Amadeus pro can be purchased from http://www.kagi.com It costs about $40 I believe. Have fun with it. I have some podcasts on it as does Erick Caron. If you want to check out my podcasts go to: http://gwenna.podbean.com Have a great day. Musically, Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Oct 15, 2010, at 12:02 AM, Ian McNamara wrote: > Hello all, well i've finely done it i have just bought amadayus pro. I have > to say i am really happy with it all i have to do now is learn how to use it > properly now as all i have really done so far is record tracks but not done > anything with them. I look forward to having a go at this. I do a lot of > singing so this is going to be very useful for me. > > Ian McNamara. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple's event next wednesday
Hi, I would really love to see other voices in other languages and that they ditched those trinoids, good news, bad news, boing and other nonsence voices that belonged in the days when they didn't really know what to do with synthetic speech, because they hadn't a screen reader then. Nowadays, there is Voiceover so then other voices in other languages are more appropriate, especially since the screen reader itself is actually localized into other languages than english. Other than that, i would love to see a better translation to Swedish of Voiceover and the feature that the old Outspoken had, namely theability to know where the cursor was, by hearing a beep when you spell a word, so that if you had the word "browser" for example and you are in the middle of the word, just between the "w" and "s", you could hear "b r o w beep s e r" and if you then went one step to the right with the cursor, it'd go "b r o w s beep e r" and so on. Permanent hot spots savable on a per application basis would also be nice. And i totally agree with more accessibility of the ILife suite would be wonderful. /Krister 15 okt 2010 kl. 19.25 skrev Daniel Rowe: > Hi all. > > As you might be aware, apple are holding a "Back To The Mac" event next > Wednesday at 10 eastern in Cupertino, California. There are rumours of > possible upgrades to the MacBook Air and also the unveiling of MAC OS X 10.7. > So, what would you like to see included in next version of the OS, either > generally or VoiceOver specific? > > Personally, I'd like to see a female voice that is as good as Alex, and to > have voices in other languages even if it meant licensing them from nuance as > they have done in iOS. > Accessibility improvements to garage band would be welcome, as well as making > iWeb accessible. > The last major thing I can think of is to finally fix the issue of VO > randomly resetting itself. > > I'm sure they'll come up with a load of things I haven't even thought of. So > what do you all think? > > Dannie > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple's event next wednesday
Maybe a little tighter integration with safari as well. I still see more data in explorer in some cases. WOuld like to get the data available even if in a different form to be similar. On Oct 15, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi, > I would really love to see other voices in other languages and that they > ditched those trinoids, good news, bad news, boing and other nonsence voices > that belonged in the days when they didn't really know what to do with > synthetic speech, because they hadn't a screen reader then. Nowadays, there > is Voiceover so then other voices in other languages are more appropriate, > especially since the screen reader itself is actually localized into other > languages than english. > Other than that, i would love to see a better translation to Swedish of > Voiceover and the feature that the old Outspoken had, namely theability to > know where the cursor was, by hearing a beep when you spell a word, so that > if you had the word "browser" for example and you are in the middle of the > word, just between the "w" and "s", you could hear "b r o w beep s e r" and > if you then went one step to the right with the cursor, it'd go "b r o w s > beep e r" and so on. > Permanent hot spots savable on a per application basis would also be nice. > And i totally agree with more accessibility of the ILife suite would be > wonderful. > /Krister > > 15 okt 2010 kl. 19.25 skrev Daniel Rowe: > >> Hi all. >> >> As you might be aware, apple are holding a "Back To The Mac" event next >> Wednesday at 10 eastern in Cupertino, California. There are rumours of >> possible upgrades to the MacBook Air and also the unveiling of MAC OS X 10.7. >> So, what would you like to see included in next version of the OS, either >> generally or VoiceOver specific? >> >> Personally, I'd like to see a female voice that is as good as Alex, and to >> have voices in other languages even if it meant licensing them from nuance >> as they have done in iOS. >> Accessibility improvements to garage band would be welcome, as well as >> making iWeb accessible. >> The last major thing I can think of is to finally fix the issue of VO >> randomly resetting itself. >> >> I'm sure they'll come up with a load of things I haven't even thought of. >> So what do you all think? >> >> Dannie >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple's event next wednesday
It would be great to see VO not reset itself (as mine does at least twice a day) and to have Safari and Webkit play nicely with VO in a more stable fashion. If it isn't addressed in this specific presentation, I hope it'll be addressed soon. :) Teresa On Oct 15, 2010, at 10:25 AM, Daniel Rowe wrote: > Hi all. > > As you might be aware, apple are holding a "Back To The Mac" event next > Wednesday at 10 eastern in Cupertino, California. There are rumours of > possible upgrades to the MacBook Air and also the unveiling of MAC OS X 10.7. > So, what would you like to see included in next version of the OS, either > generally or VoiceOver specific? > > Personally, I'd like to see a female voice that is as good as Alex, and to > have voices in other languages even if it meant licensing them from nuance as > they have done in iOS. > Accessibility improvements to garage band would be welcome, as well as making > iWeb accessible. > The last major thing I can think of is to finally fix the issue of VO > randomly resetting itself. > > I'm sure they'll come up with a load of things I haven't even thought of. So > what do you all think? > > Dannie > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple's event next wednesday
in this new snow leopard 10.6.5 update, there is a fix for voiceover and safari - Original Message - From: "Teresa Cochran" To: Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 7:49 PM Subject: Re: Apple's event next wednesday It would be great to see VO not reset itself (as mine does at least twice a day) and to have Safari and Webkit play nicely with VO in a more stable fashion. If it isn't addressed in this specific presentation, I hope it'll be addressed soon. :) Teresa On Oct 15, 2010, at 10:25 AM, Daniel Rowe wrote: Hi all. As you might be aware, apple are holding a "Back To The Mac" event next Wednesday at 10 eastern in Cupertino, California. There are rumours of possible upgrades to the MacBook Air and also the unveiling of MAC OS X 10.7. So, what would you like to see included in next version of the OS, either generally or VoiceOver specific? Personally, I'd like to see a female voice that is as good as Alex, and to have voices in other languages even if it meant licensing them from nuance as they have done in iOS. Accessibility improvements to garage band would be welcome, as well as making iWeb accessible. The last major thing I can think of is to finally fix the issue of VO randomly resetting itself. I'm sure they'll come up with a load of things I haven't even thought of. So what do you all think? Dannie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Conversations View
A 2. VO-A will generally work the same as read from cursor. (I think of it as read all, as a mnemonic), but that is probably from earlier versions of VoiceOver. Jon couple of points here. 1. Using the tab / shift-tab works well from shifting between the preview and the list of mail items. On 15/10/2010, GEOFF WAALER wrote: > I tried this technique, but decided to restore the default of showing the > headers because for me it seems more efficient to exploit the preview pane. > > Under the navigation tab of voiceOver utility I unchecked the box labeled: > "Automatically interact when using tab key". This way I am not interacting > with the mailbox view, and all fields usually are announced as was the case > with Outlook. In the event that VO only says "blank" I can either press up > and down arrow or read the fields with "move right" (vo+arrow keys or > left/right flicks via trackpad commander) to ascertain the information. > > To read in the preview pane I can press either trackpad touch + control or > vo+j. For some reason the text is only read automatically when I use the > latter even though they are purportedly equivelent, but I digress. I > generally use the trackpad to quickly skim a message. This way I can > quickly skip the junk at the top about reading in a web browser, etc. Also > the two finger flick down will read to the end or two finger flick up reads > from the top. Not sure what the keyboard equivelent is for this -- probably > involves a twenty key combination . > > Take care. > Geoff. > > > On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> Hi Neil. >> >> When you go to the view Menu, make sure that the headers are none so when >> you open a thread your message reads automaticly and you do shict command >> h and you voice over lect arrow to get to your headers and interact if you >> want to know who the message is from. >> >> Kawal. >> >> Kawal Gucukoglu >> >> On 15 Oct 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: >> >>> Yes it certainly is. SImply go to the view menu, and check organize by >>> thread. >>> On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: >>> All, is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation view, in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so that you can delete entire threads if you wish. I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail address I have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. thanks. Twitter @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Test, please ignore
Hi Colin: Well, I did that too, and I didn't get the test except below your post here. I guess I can set up a filter that will allow it to go to a group mailbox. In any case, not to belabor this or add to traffic, I guess I'll have to put on my big girl panties and deal with it!:) Anyhow, thanks, and take care. Carolyn Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com On Oct 15, 2010, at 10:34 AM, Colin M wrote: > Hi Carolyn! > Ignore you never! :] > Anyway in address book select your card, and then go to the menu vo+m scroll > right until you get to card then scroll down and there should be an option to > [ make this my card ] > vo+space bar that and that should be it! > hth Colin > On 15 Oct 2010, at 17:19, Carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Ok, let's see if I've fixed this. Thanks everyone.:) >> >> >> Carolyn Haas >> chaas0...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Aborting send during spell check.
Hi Geoff! After 3 experiments sending mock emails to myself I think I might have a suggestion, going by what you said you've noticed you have something to change during your spell checking\send so vo+shift+m scroll down to spelling and grammar sub menu and in there should be hide spelling and grammar! When I did this it went back into the message and I could do any corrections, and without going back to spelling\grammar menu I command+s to save and it did and then I used command+w to close and it did without sending! hth Colin On 15 Oct 2010, at 17:59, GEOFF WAALER wrote: > Greetings, > > I have "check spelling before sending" selected in the edit menu. In Outlook > if I realised that I didn't address my note properly or could have phrased > something differently I could abort sending during the spellcheck process. I > have not found a way to accomplish this in AppleMail. It seems that once I > press command-shift-d it's going with or without a spellcheck. > > Am I missing something? > TIA for any ideas and best regards. > Geoff > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Conversations View
John, This is great -- sure beats either vo-j or control-touch. And imho vo-a kind of sucks because one must totally remove the right hand from the home keys to pull it off, unless you want to remap an option key to the right on a Macbook and confuse people when they need to use it. Two finger flick down seems to be the choice here. Really glad to know about tabing to the preview pane though -- surprised I didn't already discover that!! Geoff On Oct 15, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > A > 2. VO-A will generally work the same as read from cursor. (I think of > it as read all, as a mnemonic), but that is probably from earlier > versions of VoiceOver. > > Jon > couple of points here. > > 1. Using the tab / shift-tab works well from shifting between the > preview and the list of mail items. > > On 15/10/2010, GEOFF WAALER wrote: >> I tried this technique, but decided to restore the default of showing the >> headers because for me it seems more efficient to exploit the preview pane. >> >> Under the navigation tab of voiceOver utility I unchecked the box labeled: >> "Automatically interact when using tab key". This way I am not interacting >> with the mailbox view, and all fields usually are announced as was the case >> with Outlook. In the event that VO only says "blank" I can either press up >> and down arrow or read the fields with "move right" (vo+arrow keys or >> left/right flicks via trackpad commander) to ascertain the information. >> >> To read in the preview pane I can press either trackpad touch + control or >> vo+j. For some reason the text is only read automatically when I use the >> latter even though they are purportedly equivelent, but I digress. I >> generally use the trackpad to quickly skim a message. This way I can >> quickly skip the junk at the top about reading in a web browser, etc. Also >> the two finger flick down will read to the end or two finger flick up reads >> from the top. Not sure what the keyboard equivelent is for this -- probably >> involves a twenty key combination . >> >> Take care. >> Geoff. >> >> >> On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >> >>> Hi Neil. >>> >>> When you go to the view Menu, make sure that the headers are none so when >>> you open a thread your message reads automaticly and you do shict command >>> h and you voice over lect arrow to get to your headers and interact if you >>> want to know who the message is from. >>> >>> Kawal. >>> >>> Kawal Gucukoglu >>> >>> On 15 Oct 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: >>> Yes it certainly is. SImply go to the view menu, and check organize by thread. On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > > > All, > > is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation > view, > in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so > that > you can delete entire threads if you wish. > > I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail > address I > have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. > > thanks. > > > > Twitter @neilbarnfather > > Neil Barnfather > Talks List Administrator > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.goog
vm ware fusion and key mapping
Hello all, I am wondering if anyone has experience with remappling keys in virtual windows. i am running vm ware fusion using windows 7 and windoeyes version 7.2. i am going to need to remap the keys when i am in the windows environment. for example, i need to use the alt key, as well as semilated mouse keys. i don't know if the control and shift keys do the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple's event next wednesday
How did you get 10.6.5? I have 10.6.4. I ran Software Update and it told me my software was up to date. On Oct 15, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Hayri Tulumcu wrote: > in this new snow leopard 10.6.5 update, there is a fix for voiceover and > safari > - Original Message - From: "Teresa Cochran" > > To: > Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 7:49 PM > Subject: Re: Apple's event next wednesday > > >> It would be great to see VO not reset itself (as mine does at least twice a >> day) and to have Safari and Webkit play nicely with VO in a more stable >> fashion. If it isn't addressed in this specific presentation, I hope it'll >> be addressed soon. :) >> >> Teresa >> On Oct 15, 2010, at 10:25 AM, Daniel Rowe wrote: >>> Hi all. >>> >>> As you might be aware, apple are holding a "Back To The Mac" event next >>> Wednesday at 10 eastern in Cupertino, California. There are rumours of >>> possible upgrades to the MacBook Air and also the unveiling of MAC OS X >>> 10.7. >>> So, what would you like to see included in next version of the OS, either >>> generally or VoiceOver specific? >>> >>> Personally, I'd like to see a female voice that is as good as Alex, and to >>> have voices in other languages even if it meant licensing them from nuance >>> as they have done in iOS. >>> Accessibility improvements to garage band would be welcome, as well as >>> making iWeb accessible. >>> The last major thing I can think of is to finally fix the issue of VO >>> randomly resetting itself. >>> >>> I'm sure they'll come up with a load of things I haven't even thought of. >>> So what do you all think? >>> >>> Dannie >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com Follow me on Facebook. http://m.facebook.com/profile.php?r170f8385&refid=7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Conversations View
Hi Geoff: Think I missed something here. How do you tab to the preview pane. If I don't interact with messages, I just get the row. The preview pane is in a scroll area below, and I'm using Vo-j to check it out. Sometimes, I can hit enter, and it reads. At other times, I'll hit enter and then have to interact with the scroll area to read. A real PITA for sure. If anyone understands what's happening here, feel free to chime in. My apple trainer didn't really get why it was happening. TIA Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com On Oct 15, 2010, at 12:59 PM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: > John, > > This is great -- sure beats either vo-j or control-touch. And imho vo-a kind > of sucks because one must totally remove the right hand from the home keys to > pull it off, unless you want to remap an option key to the right on a Macbook > and confuse people when they need to use it. Two finger flick down seems to > be the choice here. > > Really glad to know about tabing to the preview pane though -- surprised I > didn't already discover that!! > Geoff > On Oct 15, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > >> A >> 2. VO-A will generally work the same as read from cursor. (I think of >> it as read all, as a mnemonic), but that is probably from earlier >> versions of VoiceOver. >> >> Jon >> couple of points here. >> >> 1. Using the tab / shift-tab works well from shifting between the >> preview and the list of mail items. >> >> On 15/10/2010, GEOFF WAALER wrote: >>> I tried this technique, but decided to restore the default of showing the >>> headers because for me it seems more efficient to exploit the preview pane. >>> >>> Under the navigation tab of voiceOver utility I unchecked the box labeled: >>> "Automatically interact when using tab key". This way I am not interacting >>> with the mailbox view, and all fields usually are announced as was the case >>> with Outlook. In the event that VO only says "blank" I can either press up >>> and down arrow or read the fields with "move right" (vo+arrow keys or >>> left/right flicks via trackpad commander) to ascertain the information. >>> >>> To read in the preview pane I can press either trackpad touch + control or >>> vo+j. For some reason the text is only read automatically when I use the >>> latter even though they are purportedly equivelent, but I digress. I >>> generally use the trackpad to quickly skim a message. This way I can >>> quickly skip the junk at the top about reading in a web browser, etc. Also >>> the two finger flick down will read to the end or two finger flick up reads >>> from the top. Not sure what the keyboard equivelent is for this -- probably >>> involves a twenty key combination . >>> >>> Take care. >>> Geoff. >>> >>> >>> On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>> Hi Neil. When you go to the view Menu, make sure that the headers are none so when you open a thread your message reads automaticly and you do shict command h and you voice over lect arrow to get to your headers and interact if you want to know who the message is from. Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu On 15 Oct 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > Yes it certainly is. SImply go to the view menu, and check organize by > thread. > On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > >> >> >> All, >> >> is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation >> view, >> in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so >> that >> you can delete entire threads if you wish. >> >> I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail >> address I >> have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. >> >> thanks. >> >> >> >> Twitter @neilbarnfather >> >> Neil Barnfather >> Talks List Administrator >> >> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > --
Re: Apple's event next wednesday
Hi Ryan! Even with the speed of inter web these days apparently it still takes a while for them to roll it out! At least you know it's coming On 15 Oct 2010, at 20:19, Ryan Mann wrote: > How did you get 10.6.5? I have 10.6.4. I ran Software Update and it told me > my software was up to date. > > On Oct 15, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Hayri Tulumcu wrote: > >> in this new snow leopard 10.6.5 update, there is a fix for voiceover and >> safari >> - Original Message - From: "Teresa Cochran" >> >> To: >> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 7:49 PM >> Subject: Re: Apple's event next wednesday >> >> >>> It would be great to see VO not reset itself (as mine does at least twice a >>> day) and to have Safari and Webkit play nicely with VO in a more stable >>> fashion. If it isn't addressed in this specific presentation, I hope it'll >>> be addressed soon. :) >>> >>> Teresa >>> On Oct 15, 2010, at 10:25 AM, Daniel Rowe wrote: Hi all. As you might be aware, apple are holding a "Back To The Mac" event next Wednesday at 10 eastern in Cupertino, California. There are rumours of possible upgrades to the MacBook Air and also the unveiling of MAC OS X 10.7. So, what would you like to see included in next version of the OS, either generally or VoiceOver specific? Personally, I'd like to see a female voice that is as good as Alex, and to have voices in other languages even if it meant licensing them from nuance as they have done in iOS. Accessibility improvements to garage band would be welcome, as well as making iWeb accessible. The last major thing I can think of is to finally fix the issue of VO randomly resetting itself. I'm sure they'll come up with a load of things I haven't even thought of. So what do you all think? Dannie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > Ryan Mann > rmann0...@gmail.com > Follow me on Facebook. > http://m.facebook.com/profile.php?r170f8385&refid=7 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple's event next wednesday
check www.appleinsider.com and www.applerumors.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: vm ware fusion and key mapping
Google for a tool called sharp keys. I can attach it if you can't find that assuming that's with in the terms of the license which I think it is. (it's freeware) This allows you to remap keys with a simple 2 and from field then you apply, reboot the VM and you should be good. Sharp Keys 3 is the recent version. On Oct 15, 2010, at 12:08 PM, denise avant wrote: > Hello all, > I am wondering if anyone has experience with remappling keys in virtual > windows. > i am running vm ware fusion using windows 7 and windoeyes version 7.2. i am > going to need to remap the keys when i am in the windows environment. for > example, i need to use the alt key, as well as semilated mouse keys. i don't > know if the control and shift keys do the same. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
test, again please ignore
Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Conversations View
Kawal, Would you give me some more directions? I have my Macvisionaries list messagesorganized by thread. I press enter to open the thread but I then have to interact to read each message. I looked under the Mail View menu but couldn't find where to set headers on None. Additional help would be appreciated. Linda On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Hi Neil. > > When you go to the view Menu, make sure that the headers are none so when you > open a thread your message reads automaticly and you do shict command h and > you voice over lect arrow to get to your headers and interact if you want to > know who the message is from. > > Kawal. > > Kawal Gucukoglu > > On 15 Oct 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > >> Yes it certainly is. SImply go to the view menu, and check organize by >> thread. >> On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> All, >>> >>> is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation view, >>> in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so that >>> you can delete entire threads if you wish. >>> >>> I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail address I >>> have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. >>> >>> thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> Twitter @neilbarnfather >>> >>> Neil Barnfather >>> Talks List Administrator >>> >>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Test, please ignore
Hi Colin:Well, I did that too, and I didn't get the test except below your post here. I guess I can set up a filter that will allow it to go to a group mailbox. In any case, not to belabor this or add to traffic, I guess I'll have to put on my big girl panties and deal with it!:) Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com On Oct 15, 2010, at 10:34 AM, Colin M wrote: > Hi Carolyn! > Ignore you never! :] > Anyway in address book select your card, and then go to the menu vo+m scroll > right until you get to card then scroll down and there should be an option to > [ make this my card ] > vo+space bar that and that should be it! > hth Colin > On 15 Oct 2010, at 17:19, Carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Ok, let's see if I've fixed this. Thanks everyone.:) >> >> >> Carolyn Haas >> chaas0...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple's event next wednesday
Yup, I would like to see some added features in garageband as well as accessibility, I would also like the ability to cut and paste and not just copy and paste files. I would like selecting and copying text from the web to be a more reliable task. It seems to just work when it wants to. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Oct 15, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Daniel Rowe wrote: > Hi all. > > As you might be aware, apple are holding a "Back To The Mac" event next > Wednesday at 10 eastern in Cupertino, California. There are rumours of > possible upgrades to the MacBook Air and also the unveiling of MAC OS X 10.7. > So, what would you like to see included in next version of the OS, either > generally or VoiceOver specific? > > Personally, I'd like to see a female voice that is as good as Alex, and to > have voices in other languages even if it meant licensing them from nuance as > they have done in iOS. > Accessibility improvements to garage band would be welcome, as well as making > iWeb accessible. > The last major thing I can think of is to finally fix the issue of VO > randomly resetting itself. > > I'm sure they'll come up with a load of things I haven't even thought of. So > what do you all think? > > Dannie > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
apple's event next wednesday
Hi i would like to see some enhancements to garage band. I want to be able to assign samples to different keys. Also a female voice like the quality of alex. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple's event next wednesday
It's hard being so new to mac to think of anything really big that needs doing yep i would like to see garage band become more acccessable. Also it would be nice to see a more accessable mud client like vip mud for windows. Ian McNamara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: growler helper app?
I know, but it just doesn't make sense. it should work, it is configured to display messages as speach. El 14/10/2010, a las 20:35, Eric Oyen escribió: > I had the same prolem. I simply turned off cursor tracking in adium's chat > window and then used the chime to announce a new message. at that point I hit > VO-end and it reads the last line. it works fairly well for me that way. > still, I would like it to read in real time like it does in skype. > > -Eric > > On Oct 14, 2010, at 12:37 PM, Rafaela Freundt wrote: > >> hi, I want to make growl work with adium as it does with skype. I have the >> default style set to speach, and adium and skype both are supposedly using >> the default style. In skype all events are announced, like when I get a new >> chat message, and I wand it to work the same way in adium but it doesn't. >> Growl isn't speaking. >> Do you guys know what could be going on? >> Any help is appreciated, thanks, >> Rafaela >> El 14/10/2010, a las 10:12, Eric Oyen escribió: >> >>> the growler app comes with adium. >>> its designed to make some aspects of various programs a little m ore >>> accessible (such as skype's chat frames). it has a lot of speech functions >>> that can be helpful. it can also get in the way if you don't need that >>> level of verbosity for a particular application. >>> >>> I got it working for skype about 2 weeks ago and never looked back. >>> >>> -Eric >>> >>> On Oct 14, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Scott Ford wrote: >>> Hello everyone, I have downloaded the adium last night and installed it easly. Now I am wondering why and what does the growler helper app do and why? Where can I download it from? Thank you. Scott On Oct 13, 2010, at 11:16 PM, Kevin Shaw wrote: > For mobile content, you'll be fine with AAC at 128 kbps. This sounds much > better than MP3 at higher frequencies and will fit nicely on a 32 GB > iPhone or iPod. > > If you're listening at home or with headphones on a lazy afternoon, AAC > at 256 kbps will sound great, even for music with lots of dynamics and > detail. > > If you want lossless, Apple has its own lossless format. If you're an > audiophile and need absolute transparency with a reduced filesize, this > is the way to go. > > I find I have a mix of both lossy and lossless formats in my library. I > reserve my lossless compression for jazz, classical and a few world music > CDs. Everything else is lossy AAC at 256 kbps. If I need to sync my > iPhone, I convert everything to AAC at 128 kbps. > > As an audio engineer, I have yet to find a significant deal breaker in > terms of encoding method with AAC. Mp3s are a little too messy for my > liking, but 192 kbps and up will do in a pinch. > > Cheers, > Kevin > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> Eric Oyen - N7ZZT >>> Phoenix Arizona >>> Geocode: >>> 33.488462 -112.234926 >>> N33° 29.3077', W112° 14.0956' >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > Eric Oyen - N7ZZT > Phoenix Arizona > Geocode: > 33.488462 -112.234926 > N33° 29.3077', W112° 14.0956' > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: Apple's event next wednesday
I have three enhancements that I'd like to see in voiceover with the release of 10.7. I don't expect VO to be covered in that much detail during this particular event, we'll probably read about the VO changes on the web site as the release gets closer. I'd like to see them make it possible to access the status menu icons of other applications. Dropbox is one example of an application that puts an icon in this menu that can't be accessed with voiceover. We can only access the default icons like the clock, battery status, etc. Also, I haven't yet seen a way to navigate tables within word documents or pdf files. If I understand things correctly, wasn't it very difficult to read tables in web pages until the release of 10.6? Maybe this can be done for other documents as well. Finally, I'd really like to see the possibility of setting different preferences for each application. For example, I might want a different level of verbosity in a particular application. On Oct 15, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi, I would really love to see other voices in other languages and that they ditched those trinoids, good news, bad news, boing and other nonsence voices that belonged in the days when they didn't really know what to do with synthetic speech, because they hadn't a screen reader then. Nowadays, there is Voiceover so then other voices in other languages are more appropriate, especially since the screen reader itself is actually localized into other languages than english. Other than that, i would love to see a better translation to Swedish of Voiceover and the feature that the old Outspoken had, namely theability to know where the cursor was, by hearing a beep when you spell a word, so that if you had the word "browser" for example and you are in the middle of the word, just between the "w" and "s", you could hear "b r o w beep s e r" and if you then went one step to the right with the cursor, it'd go "b r o w s beep e r" and so on. Permanent hot spots savable on a per application basis would also be nice. And i totally agree with more accessibility of the ILife suite would be wonderful. /Krister 15 okt 2010 kl. 19.25 skrev Daniel Rowe: > Hi all. > > As you might be aware, apple are holding a "Back To The Mac" event next > Wednesday at 10 eastern in Cupertino, California. There are rumours of > possible upgrades to the MacBook Air and also the unveiling of MAC OS X 10.7. > So, what would you like to see included in next version of the OS, either > generally or VoiceOver specific? > > Personally, I'd like to see a female voice that is as good as Alex, and to > have voices in other languages even if it meant licensing them from nuance as > they have done in iOS. > Accessibility improvements to garage band would be welcome, as well as making > iWeb accessible. > The last major thing I can think of is to finally fix the issue of VO > randomly resetting itself. > > I'm sure they'll come up with a load of things I haven't even thought of. So > what do you all think? > > Dannie > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
right and left mouse clicks in VM Fusion?
Hi, I posted this before but I don't think it made it so I'm trying again. Sorry if this is old news. I'm interested in learning how you right and left mouse click in fusion? I use sharpkeys and don't see a means to define mouse clicks to keys. On my Dell I use 2 keys on the keypad which are predefined. Can I do something similar in fusion and how? Thanks Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
USB to Serial ADAPTEr and terminal software?
Hi, so I use console ports on network devices daily and I'd like tomove this work over to my Mac. What USB to Serial adapters do people suggest? Also, is there any terminal software designed to work with serial ports that is suited for VO? Thank you Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Conversations View
Hi Carolyn and list, Make certain that you are *NOT* interacting with the table of messages in a mail box. You can turn off the auto interact when tabbing feature in the VO utility in the Navigation dialog. I must have tested tab when I was interacting -- I just interacted with the table and then tab worked as you described and as I remembered. If this table is not being interacted with, tab moves you to the preview pane and in most instances causes the textt of the message to be read. HTH. Geoff On Oct 15, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi Geoff: > Think I missed something here. How do you tab to the preview pane. If I > don't interact with messages, I just get the row. The preview pane is in a > scroll area below, and I'm using Vo-j to check it out. Sometimes, I can hit > enter, and it reads. At other times, I'll hit enter and then have to > interact with the scroll area to read. A real PITA for sure. > If anyone understands what's happening here, feel free to chime in. My apple > trainer didn't really get why it was happening. > TIA > > > Carolyn Haas > chaas0...@gmail.com > > > > On Oct 15, 2010, at 12:59 PM, GEOFF WAALER wrote: > >> John, >> >> This is great -- sure beats either vo-j or control-touch. And imho vo-a >> kind of sucks because one must totally remove the right hand from the home >> keys to pull it off, unless you want to remap an option key to the right on >> a Macbook and confuse people when they need to use it. Two finger flick >> down seems to be the choice here. >> >> Really glad to know about tabing to the preview pane though -- surprised I >> didn't already discover that!! >> Geoff >> On Oct 15, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: >> >>> A >>> 2. VO-A will generally work the same as read from cursor. (I think of >>> it as read all, as a mnemonic), but that is probably from earlier >>> versions of VoiceOver. >>> >>> Jon >>> couple of points here. >>> >>> 1. Using the tab / shift-tab works well from shifting between the >>> preview and the list of mail items. >>> >>> On 15/10/2010, GEOFF WAALER wrote: I tried this technique, but decided to restore the default of showing the headers because for me it seems more efficient to exploit the preview pane. Under the navigation tab of voiceOver utility I unchecked the box labeled: "Automatically interact when using tab key". This way I am not interacting with the mailbox view, and all fields usually are announced as was the case with Outlook. In the event that VO only says "blank" I can either press up and down arrow or read the fields with "move right" (vo+arrow keys or left/right flicks via trackpad commander) to ascertain the information. To read in the preview pane I can press either trackpad touch + control or vo+j. For some reason the text is only read automatically when I use the latter even though they are purportedly equivelent, but I digress. I generally use the trackpad to quickly skim a message. This way I can quickly skip the junk at the top about reading in a web browser, etc. Also the two finger flick down will read to the end or two finger flick up reads from the top. Not sure what the keyboard equivelent is for this -- probably involves a twenty key combination . Take care. Geoff. On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Hi Neil. > > When you go to the view Menu, make sure that the headers are none so when > you open a thread your message reads automaticly and you do shict command > h and you voice over lect arrow to get to your headers and interact if you > want to know who the message is from. > > Kawal. > > Kawal Gucukoglu > > On 15 Oct 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > >> Yes it certainly is. SImply go to the view menu, and check organize by >> thread. >> On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> All, >>> >>> is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation >>> view, >>> in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so >>> that >>> you can delete entire threads if you wish. >>> >>> I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail >>> address I >>> have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. >>> >>> thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> Twitter @neilbarnfather >>> >>> Neil Barnfather >>> Talks List Administrator >>> >>> TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your >>> accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this g
Re: mac verses pc
Hi Heather, Mike Arrigo has posted a podcast on www.blindcooltech.com explaining how to put a daisy book on to your SD card, using a mac, playable on the victor reader stream. It is very easily done. Hopefully someone out here knows which of his 13 mac podcasts this is in, but he demonstrates it well so it is possible. One thing less, necessary on the windows desktop side. - Original Message - From: heather kd5cbl To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 3:31 AM Subject: mac verses pc I have taken to using both computers right now. I have a mac laptop and a windows desktop. Grant it I use my windows desktop more but as I learn voiceover, I hope to move between both systems equally. It is not about which is better for it is a matter of perspective of the individual. I like jaws for what it does, making my windows pc blind friendly. But, I cant access jaws in say a public library, the computer lab at school or my sighted cousin's house but I can access a mac in all those locations using voiceover. Provided there computer is not ten years old! But I like my windows pc for the use of Kurzweil1000, Duxbury which I use with my braille printer and the victor stream to read books. I hope that in the future, kurzweil1000 will have a mac equivalent like kurzweil 3000. Now that I am familiar with the mac, I can walk in a library, school or any other public places in get on a mac to do what I need to do without sighted help. I know someone might put forth system access to go for windows users? Just one problem, if that computer is not connected to the internet, how can you access system access? If you are at a log in screen, how would you know with out speech to tell you? I am not defending one over the other, it is a matter of what one's needs are at the time. I believe one should be familiar with both, not that they need to have both! Heather -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: USB to Serial ADAPTEr and terminal software?
Hi Scott, I use the Keyspan Serial to USB adapter. I have never used it on the Mac, but I have used it with the BrailleNote and Window-Eyes. You can purchase this on Amazon for about $28. The adapter I use is Keyspan High Speed USB Serial Adapter I hope this helps. Musically, Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! On Oct 15, 2010, at 5:18 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > Hi, so I use console ports on network devices daily and I'd like tomove this > work over to my Mac. What USB to Serial adapters do people suggest? Also, > is there any terminal software designed to work with serial ports that is > suited for VO? > > Thank you > Scott > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple's event next wednesday
Hello all, I agree that tables isn't handled very well in pages. Also numbers, is accessible but it's missing some navigation-features for everyone like you have in ms excel. Kenotes isn't very accessible at this moment... Safari is very bad at this moment : braille in formfields, voiceover is crashing when you want to give feedback on itunes :( and... busy busy busy. There are also other sites that voiceover can't access because it's restarting constantly. Also, when you have parts of text in tables, you cant jump to this parts with (shift)vo+command+n like you can do on webpages. So, it's my experience that you need to explore the table cel by cel and this can be very frustrated. I agree also that it would be nice if you can make different configs for different programs but I don't think they will do that. There should be more config-options for the braille-display: specify the representations of different controls in the os like links, checkboxes, comboboxes, radio buttons... Also, the information on the brailledisplay should be independent of the speech. It's not always interesting e.g. to have tooltips on the brailledisplay and the brailledisplay should not show dots 7 and 8 below a text because it's in the voiceover-cursor. As I understand well, everything on a brailledisplay is in the vo-cursor. If so, it doesn't make any sence to underline. On windows, the dots 7 and 8 are also used to show e.g. italic, bold, underline in programs but here, this isn't possible. I agree that it's not the main task of Apple to make tird party applications accessible but, it would be nice if they should make a user-friendly environment to adjust the representation of voiceover in programs that aren't accessible out of the box. e.g , firefox is a very good browser but, the developers aren't willing to make it accessible with voiceover. So, we have only 1 fully supported webbrowser and, is something works bad with that browser, like no, we have no alternative. The developers of opera will help but , I think it goes slow. It's normal that programs have bugs, for shore in the beginning but, they should make a kind of interface so that we can make a complete and efficient bugreport of something in voiceover. And ..., they have implemented a drag and drop function with the keyboard in 10.6 but, it seems not to work at all. I mean, it's not doing the same for us as for sighted users. About other voices in osx: it would be nice to have the same voices pre-installed like in ios4 but, it's not a priority for me. I can't understand the way Apple is taking care about their software: Since itunes version 10, workflows aren't working anymore. We have waited several weeks for itunes 10.0.1 and the workflow problems aren't still fixed. At the moment. No, it's fixed for me with the howto's on the internet but the debug-jobs are something for Apple, not for the customers. That's my opinion. And also in this case: this problem belong to everyone , not only vo-users. So, this is the most important of my frustrations :) best regards, William Windels Op 15-okt-2010, om 22:53 heeft Justin Ekis het volgende geschreven: > I have three enhancements that I'd like to see in voiceover with the release > of 10.7. I don't expect VO to be covered in that much detail during this > particular event, we'll probably read about the VO changes on the web site as > the release gets closer. > > I'd like to see them make it possible to access the status menu icons of > other applications. Dropbox is one example of an application that puts an > icon in this menu that can't be accessed with voiceover. We can only access > the default icons like the clock, battery status, etc. > > Also, I haven't yet seen a way to navigate tables within word documents or > pdf files. If I understand things correctly, wasn't it very difficult to read > tables in web pages until the release of 10.6? Maybe this can be done for > other documents as well. > > Finally, I'd really like to see the possibility of setting different > preferences for each application. For example, I might want a different level > of verbosity in a particular application. > > On Oct 15, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > > Hi, > I would really love to see other voices in other languages and that they > ditched those trinoids, good news, bad news, boing and other nonsence voices > that belonged in the days when they didn't really know what to do with > synthetic speech, because they hadn't a screen reader then. Nowadays, there > is Voiceover so then other voices in other languages are more appropriate, > especially since the screen reader itself is actually localized into other > languages than english. > Other than that, i would love to see a better translation to Swedish of > Voiceover and the feature that the old Outspoken had, namely theability to > know where the cursor was, by hearing a beep when you spell a word, so that >
Re: Conversations View
Hi Linda. It's a long time since I did it so can't remember the exact steps. I still find the Mac complicated! On 15 Oct 2010, at 20:57, Linda Adams wrote: > Kawal, > > Would you give me some more directions? I have my Macvisionaries list > messagesorganized by thread. I press enter to open the thread but I then > have to interact to read each message. I looked under the Mail View menu but > couldn't find where to set headers on None. Additional help would be > appreciated. > > Linda > > On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> Hi Neil. >> >> When you go to the view Menu, make sure that the headers are none so when >> you open a thread your message reads automaticly and you do shict command h >> and you voice over lect arrow to get to your headers and interact if you >> want to know who the message is from. >> >> Kawal. >> >> Kawal Gucukoglu >> >> On 15 Oct 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: >> >>> Yes it certainly is. SImply go to the view menu, and check organize by >>> thread. >>> On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: >>> All, is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation view, in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so that you can delete entire threads if you wish. I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail address I have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. thanks. Twitter @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple's event next wednesday
Most of the safari problems you listed are corrected by using webkit. Not the navigation so much but the voice crashing and other slowness issues. It's not perfect but it's much better than what's included stock. Thanks Scott On Oct 15, 2010, at 2:46 PM, Windels William wrote: > Hello all, > > I agree that tables isn't handled very well in pages. > Also numbers, is accessible but it's missing some navigation-features for > everyone like you have in ms excel. > Kenotes isn't very accessible at this moment... > > Safari is very bad at this moment : braille in formfields, voiceover is > crashing when you want to give feedback on itunes :( and... busy busy busy. > There are also other sites that voiceover can't access because it's > restarting constantly. > > Also, when you have parts of text in tables, you cant jump to this parts with > (shift)vo+command+n like you can do on webpages. > So, it's my experience that you need to explore the table cel by cel and this > can be very frustrated. > > I agree also that it would be nice if you can make different configs for > different programs but I don't think they will do that. > > There should be more config-options for the braille-display: > specify the representations of different controls in the os like links, > checkboxes, comboboxes, radio buttons... > Also, the information on the brailledisplay should be independent of the > speech. > It's not always interesting e.g. to have tooltips on the brailledisplay and > the brailledisplay should not show dots 7 and 8 below a text because it's in > the voiceover-cursor. > As I understand well, everything on a brailledisplay is in the vo-cursor. If > so, it doesn't make any sence to underline. > On windows, the dots 7 and 8 are also used to show e.g. italic, bold, > underline in programs but here, this isn't possible. > > I agree that it's not the main task of Apple to make tird party applications > accessible but, it would be nice if they should make a user-friendly > environment to adjust the representation of voiceover in programs that aren't > accessible out of the box. > e.g , firefox is a very good browser but, the developers aren't willing to > make it accessible with voiceover. > So, we have only 1 fully supported webbrowser and, is something works bad > with that browser, like no, we have no alternative. > The developers of opera will help but , I > think it goes slow. > > It's normal that programs have bugs, for shore in the beginning but, they > should make a kind of interface so that we can make a complete and efficient > bugreport of something in voiceover. > > And ..., they have implemented a drag and drop function with the keyboard in > 10.6 but, it seems not to work at all. > I mean, it's not doing the same for us as for sighted users. > > About other voices in osx: it would be nice to have the same voices > pre-installed like in ios4 but, it's not a priority for me. > > I can't understand the way Apple is taking care about their software: > Since itunes version 10, workflows aren't working anymore. > We have waited several weeks for itunes 10.0.1 and the workflow problems > aren't still fixed. > At the moment. > No, it's fixed for me with the howto's on the internet but the debug-jobs are > something for Apple, not for the customers. > That's my opinion. > And also in this case: this problem belong to everyone , not only vo-users. > > So, this is the most important of my frustrations :) > > > best regards, > William Windels > > Op 15-okt-2010, om 22:53 heeft Justin Ekis het volgende geschreven: > >> I have three enhancements that I'd like to see in voiceover with the release >> of 10.7. I don't expect VO to be covered in that much detail during this >> particular event, we'll probably read about the VO changes on the web site >> as the release gets closer. >> >> I'd like to see them make it possible to access the status menu icons of >> other applications. Dropbox is one example of an application that puts an >> icon in this menu that can't be accessed with voiceover. We can only access >> the default icons like the clock, battery status, etc. >> >> Also, I haven't yet seen a way to navigate tables within word documents or >> pdf files. If I understand things correctly, wasn't it very difficult to >> read tables in web pages until the release of 10.6? Maybe this can be done >> for other documents as well. >> >> Finally, I'd really like to see the possibility of setting different >> preferences for each application. For example, I might want a different >> level of verbosity in a particular application. >> >> On Oct 15, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >> Hi, >> I would really love to see other voices in other languages and that they >> ditched those trinoids, good news, bad news, boing and other nonsence voices >> that belonged in the days when they didn't really know what to do with >> synthetic speech, because they hadn'
Re: USB to Serial ADAPTEr and terminal software?
I use the KeySpan adapter on the Mac with ZTerm. It works pretty well. Teresa On Oct 15, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > Hi, so I use console ports on network devices daily and I'd like tomove this > work over to my Mac. What USB to Serial adapters do people suggest? Also, > is there any terminal software designed to work with serial ports that is > suited for VO? > > Thank you > Scott > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: USB to Serial ADAPTEr and terminal software?
Allison, this does help. I will give one of these a shot. I've used them in the past and they worked out well. On Oct 15, 2010, at 2:37 PM, Allison Manzino wrote: > Hi Scott, > > I use the Keyspan Serial to USB adapter. I have never used it on the Mac, but > I have used it with the BrailleNote and Window-Eyes. You can purchase this on > Amazon for about $28. > The adapter I use is Keyspan High Speed USB Serial Adapter I hope this helps. > > Musically, > Allison > > My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! > > > On Oct 15, 2010, at 5:18 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > >> Hi, so I use console ports on network devices daily and I'd like tomove this >> work over to my Mac. What USB to Serial adapters do people suggest? Also, >> is there any terminal software designed to work with serial ports that is >> suited for VO? >> >> Thank you >> Scott >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: USB to Serial ADAPTEr and terminal software?
Thank you very much for the pointer. That's 2 for keyspan and I like mine I've used before. Thanks for the quick response. Scott On Oct 15, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > I use the KeySpan adapter on the Mac with ZTerm. It works pretty well. > > Teresa > On Oct 15, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > >> Hi, so I use console ports on network devices daily and I'd like tomove this >> work over to my Mac. What USB to Serial adapters do people suggest? Also, >> is there any terminal software designed to work with serial ports that is >> suited for VO? >> >> Thank you >> Scott >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: apple's event next wednesday
Hi, You can already assign samples to keys in garageband, it's just not accessible. The problem is you need someone to drag the audio file on to the key you want. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Oct 15, 2010, at 4:07 PM, chad baker wrote: > Hi i would like to see some enhancements to garage band. > I want to be able to assign samples to different keys. > Also a female voice like the quality of alex. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Conversations View
Hi Linda, It is in the Mail Preferences that you need to change the Header view to None. When in Mail: 1. Press cmd-comma to open your Preferences. 2. Interact with the Toolbar. 3. Select the Viewing tab. 4. Mail will automatically stop interacting with the toolbar and move you to the Header View pop-up. 4. Use VO-space to change it from Default to None. 5. close your Preferences window. If you wish to have a specific message display the Header after setting things this way, simply press cmd-shift-h and the long Header info will appear for that message. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On 2010-10-15, at 1:57 PM, Linda Adams wrote: > Kawal, > > Would you give me some more directions? I have my Macvisionaries list > messagesorganized by thread. I press enter to open the thread but I then > have to interact to read each message. I looked under the Mail View menu but > couldn't find where to set headers on None. Additional help would be > appreciated. > > Linda > > On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> Hi Neil. >> >> When you go to the view Menu, make sure that the headers are none so when >> you open a thread your message reads automaticly and you do shict command h >> and you voice over lect arrow to get to your headers and interact if you >> want to know who the message is from. >> >> Kawal. >> >> Kawal Gucukoglu >> >> On 15 Oct 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: >> >>> Yes it certainly is. SImply go to the view menu, and check organize by >>> thread. >>> On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: >>> All, is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation view, in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so that you can delete entire threads if you wish. I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail address I have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. thanks. Twitter @neilbarnfather Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Conversations View
Hi Linda! I think you have to go to viewing button in the tool bar and select that, one of the options in viewing menu is headings mine is set on default, one of the others is none that's what I think you have to set! hth Colin On 15 Oct 2010, at 22:56, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Hi Linda. > > It's a long time since I did it so can't remember the exact steps. I still > find the Mac complicated! > On 15 Oct 2010, at 20:57, Linda Adams wrote: > >> Kawal, >> >> Would you give me some more directions? I have my Macvisionaries list >> messagesorganised by thread. I press enter to open the thread but I >> then have to interact to read each message. I looked under the Mail View >> menu but couldn't find where to set headers on None. Additional help would >> be appreciated. >> >> Linda >> >> On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:09 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >> >>> Hi Neil. >>> >>> When you go to the view Menu, make sure that the headers are none so when >>> you open a thread your message reads automatically and you do shict >>> command h and you voice over let arrow to get to your headers and interact >>> if you want to know who the message is from. >>> >>> Kawal. >>> >>> Kawal Gucukoglu >>> >>> On 15 Oct 2010, at 12:18 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: >>> Yes it certainly is. SImply go to the view menu, and check organise by thread. On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:10 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: > > > All, > > is it possible in Mac Mail to have mail items sorted into conversation > view, > in OutLook what this does is thread each set of messages by subject, so > that > you can delete entire threads if you wish. > > I use this view all the time in OutLook for dealing with the mail address > I > have subscribed to the mailing lists that I am part of. > > thanks. > > > > Twitter @neilbarnfather > > Neil Barnfather > Talks List Administrator > > TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your > accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > > > Kawal Gucukoglu > (E-mail/MSN): > kawal_gucuko...@sent.com > > (Skype ID): > > kawalgucukoglu > > (Mobile/text): > > +447905618396 > > +447576240421 > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: growler helper app?
Hi Rafaela! and Eric! I do not know if this is of help, but under growl settings the applications tab there is an option to set custom start button! And also Rafaela in that menu you might look at if adium notifications are set ok! Hope this helps :] Colin On 15 Oct 2010, at 21:30, Rafaela Freundt wrote: > I know, but it just doesn't make sense. it should work, it is configured to > display messages as speech. > El 14/10/2010, a las 20:35, Eric Oyen escribió: > >> I had the same problem. I simply turned off cursor tracking in adium's chat >> window and then used the chime to announce a new message. at that point I >> hit VO-end and it reads the last line. it works fairly well for me that way. >> still, I would like it to read in real time like it does in skype. >> >> -Eric >> >> On Oct 14, 2010, at 12:37 PM, Rafaela Freundt wrote: >> >>> hi, I want to make growl work with adium as it does with skype. I have the >>> default style set to speech, and adium and skype both are supposedly using >>> the default style. In skype all events are announced, like when I get a new >>> chat message, and I wand it to work the same way in adium but it doesn't. >>> Growl isn't speaking. >>> Do you guys know what could be going on? >>> Any help is appreciated, thanks, >>> Rafaela >>> El 14/10/2010, a las 10:12, Eric Oyen escribió: >>> the growler app comes with adium. its designed to make some aspects of various programs a little m ore accessible (such as skype's chat frames). it has a lot of speech functions that can be helpful. it can also get in the way if you don't need that level of verbosity for a particular application. I got it working for skype about 2 weeks ago and never looked back. -Eric On Oct 14, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Scott Ford wrote: > Hello everyone, > I have downloaded the adium last night and installed it easily. Now I > am wondering why and what does the growler helper app do and why? Where > can I download it from? Thank you. > Scott > On Oct 13, 2010, at 11:16 PM, Kevin Shaw wrote: > >> For mobile content, you'll be fine with AAC at 128 kbps. This sounds >> much better than MP3 at higher frequencies and will fit nicely on a 32 >> GB iPhone or iPod. >> >> If you're listening at home or with headphones on a lazy afternoon, AAC >> at 256 kbps will sound great, even for music with lots of dynamics and >> detail. >> >> If you want lossless, Apple has its own lossless format. If you're an >> audiophile and need absolute transparency with a reduced filesize, this >> is the way to go. >> >> I find I have a mix of both lossy and lossless formats in my library. I >> reserve my lossless compression for jazz, classical and a few world >> music CDs. Everything else is lossy AAC at 256 kbps. If I need to sync >> my iPhone, I convert everything to AAC at 128 kbps. >> >> As an audio engineer, I have yet to find a significant deal breaker in >> terms of encoding method with AAC. Mp3s are a little too messy for my >> liking, but 192 kbps and up will do in a pinch. >> >> Cheers, >> Kevin >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Eric Oyen - N7ZZT Phoenix Arizona Geocode: 33.488462 -112.234926 N33° 29.3077', W112° 14.0956' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google
Re: test, again please ignore
Hi Carolyn! Yes its me again, it slipped past me before! You said you set it to b c c yourself, that could be the problem go back to that button and select it you should have an option to change it to c c field do that and make sure its on automatically c c yourself still and that should finally solve this! Well I really hope so [ please work oh go on!] :] Colin ps it will work [ yes it will] On 15 Oct 2010, at 20:54, Carolyn Haas wrote: > > Carolyn Haas > chaas0...@gmail.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: apple's event next wednesday
hi list, i would like to see arabic tts in the new update as well as well accessibility improvement to garage band. best chad baker wrote: > Hi i would like to see some enhancements to garage band. > I want to be able to assign samples to different keys. > Also a female voice like the quality of alex. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple's event next wednesday
I like vo but I was wondering if apple will allow other screenreader programs to opperate on the mac. I was just thinking about this because, I have jaws and NVDA on my windows computer. So when jaws is giving me grief, I can switch to NVDA which usually tells me what jaws won't or when jaws is stuck. I like plan b if plan a does not work. Heather -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple's event next wednesday
Cheree Heppe here: A re you currently using VoiceOver? I think that the non-indegrated systems including the speech engines are superfluous on an Apple machine. I suspect the speech engines would indroduce glitches. Regards, Cheree Heppe Sent from my iPad On Oct 15, 2010, at 16:32, "heather kd5cbl" wrote: > I like vo but I was wondering if apple will allow other screenreader programs > to opperate on the mac. I was just thinking about this because, I have jaws > and NVDA on my windows computer. So when jaws is giving me grief, I can > switch to NVDA which usually tells me what jaws won't or when jaws is stuck. > I like plan b if plan a does not work. Heather > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple's event next wednesday
I don't know about that but, I was thinking about when vo does not respond or work in some applications, perhaps it needs some help. I am not using vo right now as I am still getting new to my mac. I have been working through the voice over guide and learning a little at a time. I like the fact that I can use both firefox and explorer on my windows so, if one is not cooperating, I just switch to the other. But it is not enough to dismiss my mac at all, just a thought. Heather -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple's event next wednesday
Apple I don't think is blocking development of other products other than since they offer their features for free who would want to play in that market. The ones who need to worry are the JFW Window Eyes bunch who charge a lot for their tools. Look at what the IPhone did to CF, Apple products may do something similar in the PC space. Of course FS has some blind organizations paid off and is overly represented in government so it's hard to break new products in to the space but over time I think our community will vote with our dollars and these companies will have a difficult time. At least in their screenreader product lines. Especially as the PC shows less and less advantage. On Oct 15, 2010, at 4:32 PM, heather kd5cbl wrote: > I like vo but I was wondering if apple will allow other screenreader programs > to opperate on the mac. I was just thinking about this because, I have jaws > and NVDA on my windows computer. So when jaws is giving me grief, I can > switch to NVDA which usually tells me what jaws won't or when jaws is stuck. > I like plan b if plan a does not work. Heather > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: test, again please ignore
giving up if this doesn't do it. I'll have to hire some dear sweet soul to fix my filters. (Where are you, dear sweet soul?) :) Just kidding. Carolybn Carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com On Oct 15, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Colin M wrote: > Hi Carolyn! > Yes its me again, it slipped past me before! > You said you set it to b c c yourself, that could be the problem go back to > that button and select it you should have an option to change it to c c field > do that and make sure its on automatically c c yourself still and that should > finally solve this! > Well I really hope so [ please work oh go on!] :] > Colin > ps it will work [ yes it will] > On 15 Oct 2010, at 20:54, Carolyn Haas wrote: > >> >> Carolyn Haas >> chaas0...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple's event next wednesday
change the subject line please, this has nothing to do with the next Apple event On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Cheree Heppe wrote: > Cheree Heppe here: > > A > re you currently using VoiceOver? > > I think that the non-indegrated systems including the speech engines are > superfluous on an Apple machine. > > I suspect the speech engines would indroduce glitches. > > > Regards, > Cheree Heppe > > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Oct 15, 2010, at 16:32, "heather kd5cbl" wrote: > > > I like vo but I was wondering if apple will allow other screenreader > programs to opperate on the mac. I was just thinking about this because, I > have jaws and NVDA on my windows computer. So when jaws is giving me grief, > I can switch to NVDA which usually tells me what jaws won't or when jaws is > stuck. I like plan b if plan a does not work. Heather > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- Check out our web site, www.giantdolphin.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple's event next wednesday
To be fair though with vo you don't really need a back up from what i've seen so far genraly i find if it frezes all i have to do is turn it on and off and it is fine again. Ian McNamara. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
reripping cds with iTunes 10 issues
Hi all: Due to the issues with iTunes not organizing all of my music properly from being ripped in Windows. I've taken on the task of reripping the cds. I think I've lost my mind. I've set iTunes to rip and eject a CD upon insertion. I'm ripping in AAC iTunes+ format 256KBS stario. The files are smaller than mP3 files, at least according to my esearch. I have error checking checked, import data from the Internet, etc. I'm using a 15inch Macbook Pro i7 processor, 2.8GHC processor, 8GB ROM, 500GB hard drive. I'm having a ouple of weird issues. First, it is taking forever to rip 1 CD. About 5-10 minutes per CD. Second issue is when I remove the CD, and insert the next one, I'll ask where do I want to import it to, and iTunes wants me to manually choose destination, and click the import button. I have to eject the CD, and insert it again for iTunes to rip. Any suggestions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: growler helper app?
hi Colin, All the notifications are enabled when i click the configure button when adium is selected. I don't quite understand the other thing, do you mean that I should change the thing that says use default starting position to use custom starting position? because in skype it is set to default starting position and it still works. thanks a lot and any help is appreciated, Rafaela El 15/10/2010, a las 18:05, Colin M escribió: > Hi Rafaela! and Eric! > I do not know if this is of help, but under growl settings the applications > tab there is an option to set custom start button! > And also Rafaela in that menu you might look at if adium notifications are > set ok! > Hope this helps :] > Colin > On 15 Oct 2010, at 21:30, Rafaela Freundt wrote: > >> I know, but it just doesn't make sense. it should work, it is configured to >> display messages as speech. >> El 14/10/2010, a las 20:35, Eric Oyen escribió: >> >>> I had the same problem. I simply turned off cursor tracking in adium's chat >>> window and then used the chime to announce a new message. at that point I >>> hit VO-end and it reads the last line. it works fairly well for me that >>> way. still, I would like it to read in real time like it does in skype. >>> >>> -Eric >>> >>> On Oct 14, 2010, at 12:37 PM, Rafaela Freundt wrote: >>> hi, I want to make growl work with adium as it does with skype. I have the default style set to speech, and adium and skype both are supposedly using the default style. In skype all events are announced, like when I get a new chat message, and I wand it to work the same way in adium but it doesn't. Growl isn't speaking. Do you guys know what could be going on? Any help is appreciated, thanks, Rafaela El 14/10/2010, a las 10:12, Eric Oyen escribió: > the growler app comes with adium. > its designed to make some aspects of various programs a little m ore > accessible (such as skype's chat frames). it has a lot of speech > functions that can be helpful. it can also get in the way if you don't > need that level of verbosity for a particular application. > > I got it working for skype about 2 weeks ago and never looked back. > > -Eric > > On Oct 14, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Scott Ford wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> I have downloaded the adium last night and installed it easily. Now I >> am wondering why and what does the growler helper app do and why? Where >> can I download it from? Thank you. >> Scott >> On Oct 13, 2010, at 11:16 PM, Kevin Shaw wrote: >> >>> For mobile content, you'll be fine with AAC at 128 kbps. This sounds >>> much better than MP3 at higher frequencies and will fit nicely on a 32 >>> GB iPhone or iPod. >>> >>> If you're listening at home or with headphones on a lazy afternoon, AAC >>> at 256 kbps will sound great, even for music with lots of dynamics and >>> detail. >>> >>> If you want lossless, Apple has its own lossless format. If you're an >>> audiophile and need absolute transparency with a reduced filesize, this >>> is the way to go. >>> >>> I find I have a mix of both lossy and lossless formats in my library. >>> I reserve my lossless compression for jazz, classical and a few world >>> music CDs. Everything else is lossy AAC at 256 kbps. If I need to sync >>> my iPhone, I convert everything to AAC at 128 kbps. >>> >>> As an audio engineer, I have yet to find a significant deal breaker in >>> terms of encoding method with AAC. Mp3s are a little too messy for my >>> liking, but 192 kbps and up will do in a pinch. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Kevin >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > Eric Oyen - N7ZZT > Phoenix Arizona > Geocode: > 33.488462 -112.234926 > N33° 29.3077', W112° 14.0956' > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe
