Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
hello, about time-machine, it's true that the backup disc contains a exact copy of your harddrive and you can browse in it with the finder but: since time-machine makes automatic backups on several moments, there is no place where you can find the whole copy of your hd with all the same elements that where on your computer when the last backup was made. So, as I understand well, on the folders on the root of your backupdrive, you will find a list of folders with the date of the backup included in the name. e.g. if you would like to restore a whole folder that you have deleted in several stapes: different files of that folder on different times and the folder itself on a later time, it would be a hard djob to restore the whole folder in one task. The time-machine program , gives a visual environment todo that but this interface isn't accessible with vo at all. any comments are very welcome best regards, William Op 3-sep-2010, om 04:15 heeft Sarah Alawami het volgende geschreven: > OH cool! I'll have to play with it when I convert my older drive in to a time > machine back up. > > Thanks. > On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:09 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > >> That's correct. IF you take a look ast your backup disk, and if you go in >> to each back up, what you find there is an exact image copy of your Mac >> primary hard drive just as if you were looking at the actual hard disk >> itself. In short, once you open each backup, you should be able to navigate >> to exactly the files you want to recover by hand because everything will be >> in the very same place on the backup that is was on your Mac's primary drive >> at the time the bacup was made. >> >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >> >> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! >> >> E-Mail: >> rforetjr at comcast dot net >> Skype Name: >> barefootedray >> >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:43 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >> Time Machine is actually accessible, but you can just go to the backup disk >> and pull the content you want to recover and copy back to your machine. >> >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> It's taken my machine down but that was before I realized how to get around >>> it with out a restart. All in all voice over is the best thing since sliced >>> bread. As for the time machine restores don't you need to use your restore >>> disk in order to restore? I mean your system disk? I would not know as I >>> don't use time machine at all. >>> >>> S >>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 3:44 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>> Although you have some valid points, VoiceOver will improve and these issues will be addressed. The big difference is that windows-based screen readers have been around for quite a while, so admittedly they have a jump on VoiceOver in some respects. However, what APple has accomplished in the last five years is amazing. Give Apple five more years and I suspect VoiceOver will exceed what the windows screen readers have done in the same period of time. Of course you use what tools work best and no tool is perfect. THe one thing I can say is that at least VO has not taken my machine down and that alone makes me very happy. On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:15 PM, William Windels wrote: > Hello, > I want also to say something about this topic: > > Apple is doing great efforts to make their products accessible and macosx > with voiceover is in global, working good. > Also , the trackpad is a very nice feature that don't exist on windows > computers for blind users. > > However, I have also some remarks: > since 10.6, voiceover isn't that stable like in 10.5. > Sometimes, voiceover is restarting while reading texts , I think because > of some strange characters. > But, this is not a big problem while comparing with windows and the > screenreaders because they are also crashing sometimes. > > A bigger problem , in my opinion is that voiceover from apple is the only > screenreader on the mac. > > I mean: since safari 5, the braille isn't working correctly in formfields. > > This problem can also happen of course on windows when a new release of a > browser is installed but, on windows , there are at least 2 browsers that > are fully supported by the most screenreaders: internet explorer, firefox > and perhaps opera. > > firefox 4 (beta) isn't also accessible with voiceover after a first look. > > Also, the time-machine program, to restore e.g. a deleted folder from the > past, isn't accessible with vo. > The automatic backup system of timemachine works great! > > Pages, a great texteditor isn't also fully accessible : tables in pages > are n't working with vo. > > The numbers application has not the same features as excel with a > screenreader. > Navigation in numbers is missing some import
Re: Oops! Deleted a folder of bookmarks in Safari
Hi: No luck. On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:37 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: > Have you done anything else since then? Could always try cmd+Z. > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:45 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > >> All: >> This will teach me to work on this Mac late! I accidentally deleted my Apple >> folder from my Safari bookmarks. It isn't in the trash. How can I get it >> back? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) > Pete Nalda > http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda > http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda > http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
ALthough you are entitled to your opinion, I have to completely disagree. There are few sites where a windows screen reader has done a better job. The reality is despite your assertions is that both platforms just as both screen readers has pros and cons. The Mac has by far more pros, however, there is no denying the fact that there is work to be done. Anyone who is honest with themselves will acknowledge this fact and the fact is APple is addressing these issues. One other factor that will influence your browsing experience is your ability to effectively use VOiceOver. For example, I use VoiceOver to browse the web personally and professionally with no difficulty. So, experience and familiarity will make a difference. Of course at the end of the day, you use what works for you. On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:57 PM, James Mannion wrote: > While I have much respect for both companies, I am glad I do not have > to depend on the Mac for my access, especially web browsing needs. > It-is-not-up-to-windows side standards by a long shot yet and the > windows side needs an overhall. I hear GW is working on that and I am > glad. I think a lot of people are blinded from reality because of the > light in which they want to paint Apple and their frustration with the > other side. > > On 9/2/10, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >> Very well written! >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:18 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >> >>> Guys, I tried to keep the below as polite and forthright as possible, but >>> it degenerates in places and reading and rereading, I don't really see the >>> benefit of removing some of the language that might be considered >>> offensive or abridging my comments. I really feel this needs to be said, >>> not for the purpose of offending, but for the purpose of taking what I >>> feel is the right stance. >>> >>> Hi Mark, this is bad... Very very bad. There are glaring inaccuracies >>> in this release. I sincerely hope you did not send it to any public >>> forums other than gw micro customer base. I've quoted what I want to draw >>> your attention to in my comments, but left the entire article below for >>> people to read in it's entirety. >>> >>> Article 6: You wrote, >>> "what incentive would Apple have to make their screen reader work with >>> Microsoft Office and what incentive would Microsoft have to make their >>> screen reader work with iTunes?" >>> This Demonstrates a lack of understanding on how the other side works. >>> Windows is not mac OS, and mac OS is not windows. On the mac side, you >>> have a screen reader, but you also have a fully accessible operating >>> system. The libraries and API's used to build programs generate >>> accessible programs, which are then read and interpreted by an accessible >>> operating system, which then sends information to voiceover... or a talk >>> box... or a TTY machine... Or whatever. For now, Microsoft has chosen to >>> make office for mac inaccessible at great pains to themselves. Apple and >>> adobe have a love hate relationship, and so adobe products on the mac are >>> hit and miss for accessibility users and non alike. As the system >>> develops though, It will eventually become impossible to build a program >>> on the mac platform that is inaccessible to apples universal access >>> design. As such, all software written for macs will eventually be >>> accessible, whether you are blind, deaf, dyslexic, paraplegic, or have any >>> other disability. We may have to chase every version of ITunes on the >>> windows side, but eventually office for mac will be accessible whether ms >>> likes it or not, unless they simply choose to scrap office for mac >>> development before things get to that stage. We still have a ways to go. >>> Article Seven: you wrote, >>> "In addition, GW Micro is the only screen reader manufacturer to host and >>> moderate an email discussion list. This list is a great resource that >>> allows our customers to discuss technical issues and questions with GW >>> Micro’s technical support team as well others in the Window-Eyes >>> community." >>> This is incorrect. NVDA developers run their own user support group >>> exactly like GW Micro's. The lead developer of the Espeak software was >>> also a regular contributor when I was there, and There should be a brlty >>> developer on there by now. Apples accessibility team also monitors the >>> macvisionaries user group. While they don't usually participate, hundreds >>> of feature requests that get bandied about the group are implemented with >>> every new release. I know for a fact that they are watching that group >>> because they have posted publicly there on occasion, and the fact that >>> they are usually quiet doesn't mean they are ignoring their customer base. >>> I believe duxbury systems moderates it's own groups, and I'm sure there >>> are others. >>> >>> Article 9: This made me furious when I read it because it demonstrates an >>> appalling amount of sheer ignora
Re: MobleMe Help!
Interesting because I just open the Mobile Me preferences on my Mac and under advanced it shows me the computers that are registered. If you have Apple Care or can e-mail Mobile Me support, they might have some other solutions. However, I have not encountered this type of problem, I have always been able to access the list of registered computers. On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:03 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Hi: > I have two Machines. My Mac my PC, & my phone. The weird thing is you cannot > unregister! It doesn't give you that options in advanced options. You can > only register; however the mac is already registered because It is in the > list of registered computers. > On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> Sara if you have only the one machine and that is the only machine you have >> been syncing to Mobile Me, perhaps unregister the machine and register and >> sync again. In this case, allow Mobile me to have its content replaced by >> the content from your machine. >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:14 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >> >>> All: >>> My subscription just changed from trial to individual. The problem is under >>> MobleMe sync preferences it says never been synked. It shows my MBP & >>> another PC in the table list, but sync is unchecked. When I check sync, it >>> asks me to register my MBP. I click register, and it says a computer with >>> that name is already registered, if I choose okay, I could lose data on all >>> computers. I went to advanced to try and unregester the computers, and >>> reregister them, but my only option is to register the computer, and it is >>> already registered. I've been using it for two months. I can access my >>> Mobleme email, contents on idisk, etc, I just can't sync anymore. >>> >>> >>> Sarai Bucciarelli >>> Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
A reasonably priced sound editor for the Mac
Hello everyone. I'm looking for a reasonably priced accessible sound editor for the MAC? Any suggestions would help including where to get them. Thanks so much. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Defining a default home page with multiple tabs
I want to know how to define a default home page with multiple tabs. Any help is appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Oops! Deleted a folder of bookmarks in Safari
Hi Sarai! Trust me I'm no expert but if I understand what it does! Could you use timemachine to retrieve your bookmarks! Sorry if I'm wrong! Colin Skype focus_66 On 3 Sep 2010, at 10:19, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > Hi: > No luck. > On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:37 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: > >> Have you done anything else since then? Could always try cmd+Z. >> >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:45 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >> >>> All: >>> This will teach me to work on this Mac late! I accidentally deleted my >>> Apple folder from my Safari bookmarks. It isn't in the trash. How can I get >>> it back? >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) >> Pete Nalda >> http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda >> http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A reasonably priced sound editor for the Mac
Check out Amadeus pro. I use this all the time for my projects including my podcasts now. There are some good podcasts on it at http://blindcooltech.com and http://gwenna.podbean.com. Take care. Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ On Sep 3, 2010, at 3:31 AM, Paul Hunt wrote: > Hello everyone. I’m looking for a reasonably priced accessible sound editor > for the MAC? Any suggestions would help including where to get them. > Thanks so much. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A reasonably priced sound editor for the Mac
How about audacity? It's free. That's the most reasonable price I know. :) On Sep 3, 2010, at 6:31 AM, Paul Hunt wrote: > Hello everyone. I'm looking for a reasonably priced accessible sound editor > for the MAC? Any suggestions would help including where to get them. > > Thanks so much. > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover saying programs have no focus
Hi, There's an RS Games client for Mac? Oh cool. Sorry to be a little off-topic. Courtney Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info On Sep 3, 2010, at 12:36 AM, johns.kary wrote: > Dropbox, and the RS games client. > Both of wich are ment to work on the mac. > Thanks, > Kari > On 03/09/2010, at 12:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> What programs did you install? Maybe they are located int eh menu bar and if >> that's the case you can't do much about that. Well you can but it takes a >> lot of fussing. *grins* >> >> Take care. >> Sarah Alawami >> MSN: marri...@gmail.com >> aim: marri...@gmail.com: >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ >> >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:18 PM, johns.kary wrote: >> >>> hope someone can help hear, because I'm completely stumped. >>> I've tried to installl a couple of programs lately on my mac, but once the >>> programs running all I can get voiceover to say is, "program has no >>> windows" or sometimes "program has no focus" >>> When a program does this, no matter what I do I cant get it to do or say >>> anything else. >>> Can anyone tell me what I need to do to fix this? >>> Thanks in advance, >>> Kari. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: voiceover saying programs have no focus
How do you setup dropbox it just says busy when I run it? Thanks, Corey -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 2:55 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: voiceover saying programs have no focus Ah yeah you will hear that. dropbox works via the status menu but all you need do is copy and paste and give them the link to the file when you think it's ready. and the rs client you should just hear the system voice. Good luck. On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:36 PM, johns.kary wrote: > Dropbox, and the RS games client. > Both of wich are ment to work on the mac. > Thanks, > Kari > On 03/09/2010, at 12:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> What programs did you install? Maybe they are located int eh menu bar >> and if that's the case you can't do much about that. Well you can but >> it takes a lot of fussing. *grins* >> >> Take care. >> Sarah Alawami >> MSN: marri...@gmail.com >> aim: marri...@gmail.com: >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ >> >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:18 PM, johns.kary wrote: >> >>> hope someone can help hear, because I'm completely stumped. >>> I've tried to installl a couple of programs lately on my mac, but once the programs running all I can get voiceover to say is, "program has no windows" or sometimes "program has no focus" >>> When a program does this, no matter what I do I cant get it to do or say anything else. >>> Can anyone tell me what I need to do to fix this? >>> Thanks in advance, >>> Kari. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover saying programs have no focus
Hi, This is probably a silly question, but are you using your Mac mini without a monitor? If that's the case, I think this might be a problem, I encountered the same thing when I set up dropbox. I kind of crawled through the dropbox setup when this happened, so to speak. HTH, Courtney Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info On Sep 3, 2010, at 7:26 AM, Corey Knapp wrote: > How do you setup dropbox it just says busy when I run it? > Thanks, > Corey > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 2:55 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: voiceover saying programs have no focus > > Ah yeah you will hear that. dropbox works via the status menu but all you > need do is copy and paste and give them the link to the file when you think > it's ready. and the rs client you should just hear the system voice. > > Good luck. > On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:36 PM, johns.kary wrote: > >> Dropbox, and the RS games client. >> Both of wich are ment to work on the mac. >> Thanks, >> Kari >> On 03/09/2010, at 12:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> What programs did you install? Maybe they are located int eh menu bar >>> and if that's the case you can't do much about that. Well you can but >>> it takes a lot of fussing. *grins* >>> >>> Take care. >>> Sarah Alawami >>> MSN: marri...@gmail.com >>> aim: marri...@gmail.com: >>> >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>> Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ >>> >>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:18 PM, johns.kary wrote: >>> hope someone can help hear, because I'm completely stumped. I've tried to installl a couple of programs lately on my mac, but once > the programs running all I can get voiceover to say is, "program has no > windows" or sometimes "program has no focus" When a program does this, no matter what I do I cant get it to do or say > anything else. Can anyone tell me what I need to do to fix this? Thanks in advance, Kari. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Apple hiring engineers, 3 positions accessibility related
Hi all, Forgive the cross post. I received the following info on the Top Tech Tidbits mailing list, and thought that perhaps it would be of interest to some here. I also think it supports well the points that some of us have been making about Apple's commitment to accessibility. I personally find the fact that they're hiring three engineers for accessibility related work to be very impressive. Apple is hiring an Accessibility SoftwareQuality engineer http://jobs.apple.com/index.ajs?BID=1&method=mExternal.showJob&RID=54249&CurrentPage=1 an Accessibility Software Engineer http://jobs.apple.com/index.ajs?BID=1&method=mExternal.showJob&RID=57019&CurrentPage=1 an iPhone Accessibility engineer http://jobs.apple.com/index.ajs?BID=1&method=mExternal.showJob&RID=54251&CurrentPage=1 and a WebKit engineer http://jobs.apple.com/index.ajs?BID=1&method=mExternal.showJob&RID=50566&CurrentPage=1 Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Trackpad tutorials for the blind, do they exist?
Hi there. I so want to use the track pad, but have to admit i'm afraid to do so, because i feel like i don't have any control over what's happening in apps etc. This, however isn't Voiceovers or the fault of the Mac, it's my lack of understanding of using the track pad to control the Mac, so i wonder has anyone done a tutorial, podcast or other things about how to use the trackpad to control VO? Can i actually be faster when using the trackpad than if i used the keyboard? Sorry for all the dumb questions but any help with this is greatly appreciated. /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
I don't like the many 4 finger salutes that you have to do with Voiceover. Andy "I'm pretty good at drinkin beer." -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 2:41 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions ALthough you are entitled to your opinion, I have to completely disagree. There are few sites where a windows screen reader has done a better job. The reality is despite your assertions is that both platforms just as both screen readers has pros and cons. The Mac has by far more pros, however, there is no denying the fact that there is work to be done. Anyone who is honest with themselves will acknowledge this fact and the fact is APple is addressing these issues. One other factor that will influence your browsing experience is your ability to effectively use VOiceOver. For example, I use VoiceOver to browse the web personally and professionally with no difficulty. So, experience and familiarity will make a difference. Of course at the end of the day, you use what works for you. On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:57 PM, James Mannion wrote: > While I have much respect for both companies, I am glad I do not have > to depend on the Mac for my access, especially web browsing needs. > It-is-not-up-to-windows side standards by a long shot yet and the > windows side needs an overhall. I hear GW is working on that and I am > glad. I think a lot of people are blinded from reality because of the > light in which they want to paint Apple and their frustration with the > other side. > > On 9/2/10, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >> Very well written! >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:18 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >> >>> Guys, I tried to keep the below as polite and forthright as >>> possible, but it degenerates in places and reading and rereading, I >>> don't really see the benefit of removing some of the language that >>> might be considered offensive or abridging my comments. I really >>> feel this needs to be said, not for the purpose of offending, but >>> for the purpose of taking what I feel is the right stance. >>> >>> Hi Mark, this is bad... Very very bad. There are glaring >>> inaccuracies in this release. I sincerely hope you did not send it >>> to any public forums other than gw micro customer base. I've quoted >>> what I want to draw your attention to in my comments, but left the >>> entire article below for people to read in it's entirety. >>> >>> Article 6: You wrote, >>> "what incentive would Apple have to make their screen reader work >>> with Microsoft Office and what incentive would Microsoft have to >>> make their screen reader work with iTunes?" >>> This Demonstrates a lack of understanding on how the other side works. >>> Windows is not mac OS, and mac OS is not windows. On the mac side, >>> you have a screen reader, but you also have a fully accessible >>> operating system. The libraries and API's used to build programs >>> generate accessible programs, which are then read and interpreted by >>> an accessible operating system, which then sends information to >>> voiceover... or a talk box... or a TTY machine... Or whatever. For >>> now, Microsoft has chosen to make office for mac inaccessible at >>> great pains to themselves. Apple and adobe have a love hate >>> relationship, and so adobe products on the mac are hit and miss for >>> accessibility users and non alike. As the system develops though, >>> It will eventually become impossible to build a program on the mac >>> platform that is inaccessible to apples universal access design. As >>> such, all software written for macs will eventually be accessible, >>> whether you are blind, deaf, dyslexic, paraplegic, or have any other >>> disability. We may have to chase every version of ITunes on the >>> windows side, but eventually office for mac will be accessible >>> whether ms likes it or not, unless they simply choose to scrap office for mac development before things get to that stage. We still have a ways to go. >>> Article Seven: you wrote, >>> "In addition, GW Micro is the only screen reader manufacturer to >>> host and moderate an email discussion list. This list is a great >>> resource that allows our customers to discuss technical issues and >>> questions with GW Micro's technical support team as well others in >>> the Window-Eyes community." >>> This is incorrect. NVDA developers run their own user support group >>> exactly like GW Micro's. The lead developer of the Espeak software >>> was also a regular contributor when I was there, and There should be >>> a brlty developer on there by now. Apples accessibility team also >>> monitors the macvisionaries user group. While they don't usually >>> participate, hundreds of feature requests that get bandied about th
joining the mac squad.
hello all by tommorrow afternoon i should be a memor of the mac squad going to get my new mac tommorrow morning. also my friend will lomas is staying with me for the weekend so he will help me with it tommorrow. ian mcnamara. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Trackpad tutorials for the blind, do they exist?
Hello Krister, I don't know of any tutorials on the use of the Trackpad, but to learn the Trackpad Commander gestures, just turn on Keyboard Help (VO-k_ and play with the trackpad. That way, you know you can't do any harm and you can find out what the gestures do. Cheers, Anne On 3 Sep 2010, at 14:04, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi there. > I so want to use the track pad, but have to admit i'm afraid to do so, > because i feel like i don't have any control over what's happening in apps > etc. This, however isn't Voiceovers or the fault of the Mac, it's my lack of > understanding of using the track pad to control the Mac, so i wonder has > anyone done a tutorial, podcast or other things about how to use the trackpad > to control VO? Can i actually be faster when using the trackpad than if i > used the keyboard? > Sorry for all the dumb questions but any help with this is greatly > appreciated. > /Krister > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: preview problem with voiceover
HI Roberto, Try interacting, then navigating to the page. I also use the bookmark feature which seems to work well in Preview. Cheers, Kein -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
Excellent comments, and worthy of a note to accessibil...@apple.com. Anyone remember jaws 3 or window-eyes 3? These screenreaders are in their 11th and 7th generations respectively, and I can remember being the old codger that I am the performance of their third or 4th generation products. Absolutely a lot of room for improvement on the voiceover side, but I feel that being the "walled garden," allows the stability to continue to work on these types of issues. On 2010-09-02, at 6:15 PM, William Windels wrote: > Hello, > I want also to say something about this topic: > > Apple is doing great efforts to make their products accessible and macosx > with voiceover is in global, working good. > Also , the trackpad is a very nice feature that don't exist on windows > computers for blind users. > > However, I have also some remarks: > since 10.6, voiceover isn't that stable like in 10.5. > Sometimes, voiceover is restarting while reading texts , I think because of > some strange characters. > But, this is not a big problem while comparing with windows and the > screenreaders because they are also crashing sometimes. > > A bigger problem , in my opinion is that voiceover from apple is the only > screenreader on the mac. > > I mean: since safari 5, the braille isn't working correctly in formfields. > > This problem can also happen of course on windows when a new release of a > browser is installed but, on windows , there are at least 2 browsers that are > fully supported by the most screenreaders: internet explorer, firefox and > perhaps opera. > > firefox 4 (beta) isn't also accessible with voiceover after a first look. > > Also, the time-machine program, to restore e.g. a deleted folder from the > past, isn't accessible with vo. > The automatic backup system of timemachine works great! > > Pages, a great texteditor isn't also fully accessible : tables in pages are > n't working with vo. > > The numbers application has not the same features as excel with a > screenreader. > Navigation in numbers is missing some important features. > > Also: the braille representation on the mac has not the same contort as on > windows, I give 2 examples: > The text on the brailledisplay isn't independent of the speech. so. in > global, what the mac says, that will be shown on the braille display and > revers. > It makes it much more powerful if you can configure what to read in braille > and what to hear. > A second thing is the representation of controls on a braille display: > They should give a option to configure how the representation of a radio > button, a button, a dropbox/pull down menu, a checkbox, a link, should be > shown on a braille display. > The best solution here is to have language independent symbols for this kind > of controls. > Since some people have only a braille display of 12, 20 or 40 characters, it > doesn't make sence to see only checkbox on your display. > > When I try to speak with other blind people about the mac and the included > accessibility, the first question they ask is about particular programs they > want to use. > > When I compare this about text processors, internet, spreadsheets , databases > (ms access), powerpoints, chatting, listening to music..., not all of this > tasks gives the same confort on a mac as on windows. > > Conclusion: I love the mac , osx is great but the accessibility is still a > work in progress and, in my opinion, not at the same level of most windows > screenreaders. > > > best regards, > William > Op 2-sep-2010, om 22:47 heeft Mike Arrigo het volgende geschreven: > >> Just a few comments to add to this. First, I think gw-micro is a great >> company and window eyes is a great product, I'm using it with my work >> computer to write this message. With regard to supporting the web, at this >> point at least, voiceover is actually ahead of window eyes, because it >> handles the pages that change dinamicly. In window eyes, if a page changes >> through something like java script, you must reload the browse mode buffer. >> On the mac, as apple says, it just works. The new content is available as >> you navigate the page. I know gw-micro is working on this, and I'm sure once >> the work is done, it will work very well. Also, on a mac, you can install a >> new version of the operating system completely and totally without sighted >> assistance, with speech and or a braille display. This cannot be done with >> windows. Of course, this is not the fault of gw-micro, Microsoft gets the >> blame for that one, but I think it demonstrates the commitment Apple has to >> accessibility. >> >> -- >> Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit >> www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsu
RE: voiceover saying programs have no focus
How did you get through it? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Courtney Curran Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 7:36 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: voiceover saying programs have no focus Hi, This is probably a silly question, but are you using your Mac mini without a monitor? If that's the case, I think this might be a problem, I encountered the same thing when I set up dropbox. I kind of crawled through the dropbox setup when this happened, so to speak. HTH, Courtney Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info On Sep 3, 2010, at 7:26 AM, Corey Knapp wrote: > How do you setup dropbox it just says busy when I run it? > Thanks, > Corey > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 2:55 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: voiceover saying programs have no focus > > Ah yeah you will hear that. dropbox works via the status menu but all > you need do is copy and paste and give them the link to the file when > you think it's ready. and the rs client you should just hear the system voice. > > Good luck. > On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:36 PM, johns.kary wrote: > >> Dropbox, and the RS games client. >> Both of wich are ment to work on the mac. >> Thanks, >> Kari >> On 03/09/2010, at 12:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> What programs did you install? Maybe they are located int eh menu >>> bar and if that's the case you can't do much about that. Well you >>> can but it takes a lot of fussing. *grins* >>> >>> Take care. >>> Sarah Alawami >>> MSN: marri...@gmail.com >>> aim: marri...@gmail.com: >>> >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>> Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ >>> >>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:18 PM, johns.kary wrote: >>> hope someone can help hear, because I'm completely stumped. I've tried to installl a couple of programs lately on my mac, but once > the programs running all I can get voiceover to say is, "program has > no windows" or sometimes "program has no focus" When a program does this, no matter what I do I cant get it to do or say > anything else. Can anyone tell me what I need to do to fix this? Thanks in advance, Kari. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.c
RE: voiceover saying programs have no focus
Yes I am using my mac mini without a monitor hooked up are you saying that if I hook a monitor up it should work better? Thanks for your help in advance. Corey -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Courtney Curran Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 7:36 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: voiceover saying programs have no focus Hi, This is probably a silly question, but are you using your Mac mini without a monitor? If that's the case, I think this might be a problem, I encountered the same thing when I set up dropbox. I kind of crawled through the dropbox setup when this happened, so to speak. HTH, Courtney Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info On Sep 3, 2010, at 7:26 AM, Corey Knapp wrote: > How do you setup dropbox it just says busy when I run it? > Thanks, > Corey > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 2:55 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: voiceover saying programs have no focus > > Ah yeah you will hear that. dropbox works via the status menu but all > you need do is copy and paste and give them the link to the file when > you think it's ready. and the rs client you should just hear the system voice. > > Good luck. > On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:36 PM, johns.kary wrote: > >> Dropbox, and the RS games client. >> Both of wich are ment to work on the mac. >> Thanks, >> Kari >> On 03/09/2010, at 12:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> What programs did you install? Maybe they are located int eh menu >>> bar and if that's the case you can't do much about that. Well you >>> can but it takes a lot of fussing. *grins* >>> >>> Take care. >>> Sarah Alawami >>> MSN: marri...@gmail.com >>> aim: marri...@gmail.com: >>> >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>> Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ >>> >>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:18 PM, johns.kary wrote: >>> hope someone can help hear, because I'm completely stumped. I've tried to installl a couple of programs lately on my mac, but once > the programs running all I can get voiceover to say is, "program has > no windows" or sometimes "program has no focus" When a program does this, no matter what I do I cant get it to do or say > anything else. Can anyone tell me what I need to do to fix this? Thanks in advance, Kari. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because
Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
I'm not that blinded by stupidity. I've got no problems navigating with apple products, and I do preferr the document mode verses groups. I realize that it is entirely different. I'm in no way glorifying apple, I'm not a very religious person:) but in order for me to get a grip, I had to shrug off most windows notions prior to being successfull. Ahead, I doubt it, because everything with the exception of the flash issue I had written you all about earlier has not been of any concern. LEarning took longer so I'll give ya that much of it. P.S. When addressing my concdrns re: flash mac and voiceover to the provider of the lessons, I was informed that they are using the flash player as a tempory solution and that they are going html5 asap. Cheers. On 2010-09-02, at 8:57 PM, James Mannion wrote: > While I have much respect for both companies, I am glad I do not have > to depend on the Mac for my access, especially web browsing needs. > It-is-not-up-to-windows side standards by a long shot yet and the > windows side needs an overhall. I hear GW is working on that and I am > glad. I think a lot of people are blinded from reality because of the > light in which they want to paint Apple and their frustration with the > other side. > > On 9/2/10, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >> Very well written! >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:18 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >> >>> Guys, I tried to keep the below as polite and forthright as possible, but >>> it degenerates in places and reading and rereading, I don't really see the >>> benefit of removing some of the language that might be considered >>> offensive or abridging my comments. I really feel this needs to be said, >>> not for the purpose of offending, but for the purpose of taking what I >>> feel is the right stance. >>> >>> Hi Mark, this is bad... Very very bad. There are glaring inaccuracies >>> in this release. I sincerely hope you did not send it to any public >>> forums other than gw micro customer base. I've quoted what I want to draw >>> your attention to in my comments, but left the entire article below for >>> people to read in it's entirety. >>> >>> Article 6: You wrote, >>> "what incentive would Apple have to make their screen reader work with >>> Microsoft Office and what incentive would Microsoft have to make their >>> screen reader work with iTunes?" >>> This Demonstrates a lack of understanding on how the other side works. >>> Windows is not mac OS, and mac OS is not windows. On the mac side, you >>> have a screen reader, but you also have a fully accessible operating >>> system. The libraries and API's used to build programs generate >>> accessible programs, which are then read and interpreted by an accessible >>> operating system, which then sends information to voiceover... or a talk >>> box... or a TTY machine... Or whatever. For now, Microsoft has chosen to >>> make office for mac inaccessible at great pains to themselves. Apple and >>> adobe have a love hate relationship, and so adobe products on the mac are >>> hit and miss for accessibility users and non alike. As the system >>> develops though, It will eventually become impossible to build a program >>> on the mac platform that is inaccessible to apples universal access >>> design. As such, all software written for macs will eventually be >>> accessible, whether you are blind, deaf, dyslexic, paraplegic, or have any >>> other disability. We may have to chase every version of ITunes on the >>> windows side, but eventually office for mac will be accessible whether ms >>> likes it or not, unless they simply choose to scrap office for mac >>> development before things get to that stage. We still have a ways to go. >>> Article Seven: you wrote, >>> "In addition, GW Micro is the only screen reader manufacturer to host and >>> moderate an email discussion list. This list is a great resource that >>> allows our customers to discuss technical issues and questions with GW >>> Micro’s technical support team as well others in the Window-Eyes >>> community." >>> This is incorrect. NVDA developers run their own user support group >>> exactly like GW Micro's. The lead developer of the Espeak software was >>> also a regular contributor when I was there, and There should be a brlty >>> developer on there by now. Apples accessibility team also monitors the >>> macvisionaries user group. While they don't usually participate, hundreds >>> of feature requests that get bandied about the group are implemented with >>> every new release. I know for a fact that they are watching that group >>> because they have posted publicly there on occasion, and the fact that >>> they are usually quiet doesn't mean they are ignoring their customer base. >>> I believe duxbury systems moderates it's own groups, and I'm sure there >>> are others. >>> >>> Article 9: This made me furious when I read it because it demonstrates an >>> appalling amount of sheer ignorance. The statements are categorica
Re: Trackpad tutorials for the blind, do they exist?
Hi Krister, I also don't know about specific tutorials for the Trackpad, but I recently listened to a demo of this on the Serotalk podcast, using the podcaster app on my iPod Touch. It's at the very end of SeroTalk podcast 48, where there are also reviews of the Freedom i-Connex and BT Key Mini Bluetooth keyboards. The podcast also mentions that you have to download the software update for Magic Trackpad before you can use this. And Anne's suggestion of turning on VoiceOver's keyboard help is excellent. It's the way that I check out the keys on the new bluetooth keyboards. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Sep 3, 2010, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Krister, I don't know of any tutorials on the use of the Trackpad, but to learn the Trackpad Commander gestures, just turn on Keyboard Help (VO-k_ and play with the trackpad. That way, you know you can't do any harm and you can find out what the gestures do. Cheers, Anne On 3 Sep 2010, at 14:04, Krister Ekstrom wrote: Hi there. I so want to use the track pad, but have to admit i'm afraid to do so, because i feel like i don't have any control over what's happening in apps etc. This, however isn't Voiceovers or the fault of the Mac, it's my lack of understanding of using the track pad to control the Mac, so i wonder has anyone done a tutorial, podcast or other things about how to use the trackpad to control VO? Can i actually be faster when using the trackpad than if i used the keyboard? Sorry for all the dumb questions but any help with this is greatly appreciated. /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
Andy, Do you really find the alternative of having to share keyboard commands and work around keyboard conflicts with other screen readers? Honestly the commands offered with VO are not nearly as complicated as some make it seem. In fact with quick nav it has become much easier and I would take the four-finger salutes over any windows-based screen reader command set any day. Maybe this just comes with time, but you at least can alter the layout of the VO commands to emulate a layout that works best for you, such as using the numpad commander. On Sep 3, 2010, at 8:15 AM, Andy Baracco wrote: > I don't like the many 4 finger salutes that you have to do with Voiceover. > > Andy > > > > "I'm pretty good at drinkin beer." > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 2:41 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen > Readers Discussion Panel Questions > > ALthough you are entitled to your opinion, I have to completely disagree. > There are few sites where a windows screen reader has done a better job. The > reality is despite your assertions is that both platforms just as both > screen readers has pros and cons. The Mac has by far more pros, however, > there is no denying the fact that there is work to be done. Anyone who is > honest with themselves will acknowledge this fact and the fact is APple is > addressing these issues. One other factor that will influence your browsing > experience is your ability to effectively use VOiceOver. For example, I use > VoiceOver to browse the web personally and professionally with no > difficulty. So, experience and familiarity will make a difference. > Of course at the end of the day, you use what works for you. > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:57 PM, James Mannion wrote: > >> While I have much respect for both companies, I am glad I do not have >> to depend on the Mac for my access, especially web browsing needs. >> It-is-not-up-to-windows side standards by a long shot yet and the >> windows side needs an overhall. I hear GW is working on that and I am >> glad. I think a lot of people are blinded from reality because of the >> light in which they want to paint Apple and their frustration with the >> other side. >> >> On 9/2/10, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >>> Very well written! >>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:18 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >>> Guys, I tried to keep the below as polite and forthright as possible, but it degenerates in places and reading and rereading, I don't really see the benefit of removing some of the language that might be considered offensive or abridging my comments. I really feel this needs to be said, not for the purpose of offending, but for the purpose of taking what I feel is the right stance. Hi Mark, this is bad... Very very bad. There are glaring inaccuracies in this release. I sincerely hope you did not send it to any public forums other than gw micro customer base. I've quoted what I want to draw your attention to in my comments, but left the entire article below for people to read in it's entirety. Article 6: You wrote, "what incentive would Apple have to make their screen reader work with Microsoft Office and what incentive would Microsoft have to make their screen reader work with iTunes?" This Demonstrates a lack of understanding on how the other side works. Windows is not mac OS, and mac OS is not windows. On the mac side, you have a screen reader, but you also have a fully accessible operating system. The libraries and API's used to build programs generate accessible programs, which are then read and interpreted by an accessible operating system, which then sends information to voiceover... or a talk box... or a TTY machine... Or whatever. For now, Microsoft has chosen to make office for mac inaccessible at great pains to themselves. Apple and adobe have a love hate relationship, and so adobe products on the mac are hit and miss for accessibility users and non alike. As the system develops though, It will eventually become impossible to build a program on the mac platform that is inaccessible to apples universal access design. As such, all software written for macs will eventually be accessible, whether you are blind, deaf, dyslexic, paraplegic, or have any other disability. We may have to chase every version of ITunes on the windows side, but eventually office for mac will be accessible whether ms likes it or not, unless they simply choose to scrap office > for mac development before things get to that stage. We still have a ways > to go. > > Article Seven: you wrote, "In addition, GW Micro is the
Re: how do i change the defult web browser in mac os10.6?
Hi trahern, To change the default web browser, go into Safari, press cmd-comma to open the Preferences, select the General tab and the first item in the General pane is a pop-up where you can select the browser you wish to have as your default. Thanks. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On 2010-09-02, at 8:32 PM, trahern culver wrote: > trahern -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
I don't mind them actually. I just lock the vo keys and away I go. no more 16 finger commands. lol! Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ On Sep 3, 2010, at 5:15 AM, Andy Baracco wrote: > I don't like the many 4 finger salutes that you have to do with Voiceover. > > Andy > > > > "I'm pretty good at drinkin beer." > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 2:41 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen > Readers Discussion Panel Questions > > ALthough you are entitled to your opinion, I have to completely disagree. > There are few sites where a windows screen reader has done a better job. The > reality is despite your assertions is that both platforms just as both > screen readers has pros and cons. The Mac has by far more pros, however, > there is no denying the fact that there is work to be done. Anyone who is > honest with themselves will acknowledge this fact and the fact is APple is > addressing these issues. One other factor that will influence your browsing > experience is your ability to effectively use VOiceOver. For example, I use > VoiceOver to browse the web personally and professionally with no > difficulty. So, experience and familiarity will make a difference. > Of course at the end of the day, you use what works for you. > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:57 PM, James Mannion wrote: > >> While I have much respect for both companies, I am glad I do not have >> to depend on the Mac for my access, especially web browsing needs. >> It-is-not-up-to-windows side standards by a long shot yet and the >> windows side needs an overhall. I hear GW is working on that and I am >> glad. I think a lot of people are blinded from reality because of the >> light in which they want to paint Apple and their frustration with the >> other side. >> >> On 9/2/10, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >>> Very well written! >>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:18 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >>> Guys, I tried to keep the below as polite and forthright as possible, but it degenerates in places and reading and rereading, I don't really see the benefit of removing some of the language that might be considered offensive or abridging my comments. I really feel this needs to be said, not for the purpose of offending, but for the purpose of taking what I feel is the right stance. Hi Mark, this is bad... Very very bad. There are glaring inaccuracies in this release. I sincerely hope you did not send it to any public forums other than gw micro customer base. I've quoted what I want to draw your attention to in my comments, but left the entire article below for people to read in it's entirety. Article 6: You wrote, "what incentive would Apple have to make their screen reader work with Microsoft Office and what incentive would Microsoft have to make their screen reader work with iTunes?" This Demonstrates a lack of understanding on how the other side works. Windows is not mac OS, and mac OS is not windows. On the mac side, you have a screen reader, but you also have a fully accessible operating system. The libraries and API's used to build programs generate accessible programs, which are then read and interpreted by an accessible operating system, which then sends information to voiceover... or a talk box... or a TTY machine... Or whatever. For now, Microsoft has chosen to make office for mac inaccessible at great pains to themselves. Apple and adobe have a love hate relationship, and so adobe products on the mac are hit and miss for accessibility users and non alike. As the system develops though, It will eventually become impossible to build a program on the mac platform that is inaccessible to apples universal access design. As such, all software written for macs will eventually be accessible, whether you are blind, deaf, dyslexic, paraplegic, or have any other disability. We may have to chase every version of ITunes on the windows side, but eventually office for mac will be accessible whether ms likes it or not, unless they simply choose to scrap office > for mac development before things get to that stage. We still have a ways > to go. > > Article Seven: you wrote, "In addition, GW Micro is the only screen reader manufacturer to host and moderate an email discussion list. This list is a great resource that allows our customers to discuss technical issues and questions with GW Micro's technical s
Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
and also you can use the numpad commander by holding the right arrow and hitting a number on the number row. This makes it easier too. Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ On Sep 3, 2010, at 2:41 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > ALthough you are entitled to your opinion, I have to completely disagree. > There are few sites where a windows screen reader has done a better job. The > reality is despite your assertions is that both platforms just as both screen > readers has pros and cons. The Mac has by far more pros, however, there is no > denying the fact that there is work to be done. Anyone who is honest with > themselves will acknowledge this fact and the fact is APple is addressing > these issues. One other factor that will influence your browsing experience > is your ability to effectively use VOiceOver. For example, I use VoiceOver to > browse the web personally and professionally with no difficulty. So, > experience and familiarity will make a difference. > Of course at the end of the day, you use what works for you. > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:57 PM, James Mannion wrote: > >> While I have much respect for both companies, I am glad I do not have >> to depend on the Mac for my access, especially web browsing needs. >> It-is-not-up-to-windows side standards by a long shot yet and the >> windows side needs an overhall. I hear GW is working on that and I am >> glad. I think a lot of people are blinded from reality because of the >> light in which they want to paint Apple and their frustration with the >> other side. >> >> On 9/2/10, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >>> Very well written! >>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:18 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >>> Guys, I tried to keep the below as polite and forthright as possible, but it degenerates in places and reading and rereading, I don't really see the benefit of removing some of the language that might be considered offensive or abridging my comments. I really feel this needs to be said, not for the purpose of offending, but for the purpose of taking what I feel is the right stance. Hi Mark, this is bad... Very very bad. There are glaring inaccuracies in this release. I sincerely hope you did not send it to any public forums other than gw micro customer base. I've quoted what I want to draw your attention to in my comments, but left the entire article below for people to read in it's entirety. Article 6: You wrote, "what incentive would Apple have to make their screen reader work with Microsoft Office and what incentive would Microsoft have to make their screen reader work with iTunes?" This Demonstrates a lack of understanding on how the other side works. Windows is not mac OS, and mac OS is not windows. On the mac side, you have a screen reader, but you also have a fully accessible operating system. The libraries and API's used to build programs generate accessible programs, which are then read and interpreted by an accessible operating system, which then sends information to voiceover... or a talk box... or a TTY machine... Or whatever. For now, Microsoft has chosen to make office for mac inaccessible at great pains to themselves. Apple and adobe have a love hate relationship, and so adobe products on the mac are hit and miss for accessibility users and non alike. As the system develops though, It will eventually become impossible to build a program on the mac platform that is inaccessible to apples universal access design. As such, all software written for macs will eventually be accessible, whether you are blind, deaf, dyslexic, paraplegic, or have any other disability. We may have to chase every version of ITunes on the windows side, but eventually office for mac will be accessible whether ms likes it or not, unless they simply choose to scrap office for mac development before things get to that stage. We still have a ways to go. > > Article Seven: you wrote, "In addition, GW Micro is the only screen reader manufacturer to host and moderate an email discussion list. This list is a great resource that allows our customers to discuss technical issues and questions with GW Micro’s technical support team as well others in the Window-Eyes community." This is incorrect. NVDA developers run their own user support group exactly like GW Micro's. The lead developer of the Espeak software was also a regular contributor when I was there, and There should be a brlty developer on there by now. Apples accessibility team also monitors the macvisionaries user group. While they don't usually participate, hundreds of feature
Re: voiceover saying programs have no focus
I just hit enter at the prompt, entered in my credentals and excepted the default. I don't even worry about it anymore. S On Sep 3, 2010, at 4:26 AM, Corey Knapp wrote: > How do you setup dropbox it just says busy when I run it? > Thanks, > Corey > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 2:55 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: voiceover saying programs have no focus > > Ah yeah you will hear that. dropbox works via the status menu but all you > need do is copy and paste and give them the link to the file when you think > it's ready. and the rs client you should just hear the system voice. > > Good luck. > On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:36 PM, johns.kary wrote: > >> Dropbox, and the RS games client. >> Both of wich are ment to work on the mac. >> Thanks, >> Kari >> On 03/09/2010, at 12:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> What programs did you install? Maybe they are located int eh menu bar >>> and if that's the case you can't do much about that. Well you can but >>> it takes a lot of fussing. *grins* >>> >>> Take care. >>> Sarah Alawami >>> MSN: marri...@gmail.com >>> aim: marri...@gmail.com: >>> >>> website: http://music.marrie.org >>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >>> Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ >>> >>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:18 PM, johns.kary wrote: >>> hope someone can help hear, because I'm completely stumped. I've tried to installl a couple of programs lately on my mac, but once > the programs running all I can get voiceover to say is, "program has no > windows" or sometimes "program has no focus" When a program does this, no matter what I do I cant get it to do or say > anything else. Can anyone tell me what I need to do to fix this? Thanks in advance, Kari. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover saying programs have no focus
Yep apple designed the newer mac minis and the updates that way. my friend found out that the hard way. I don't like it but it is what it is and you role with the punches. On Sep 3, 2010, at 6:01 AM, Corey Knapp wrote: > Yes I am using my mac mini without a monitor hooked up are you saying that > if I hook a monitor up it should work better? > Thanks for your help in advance. > Corey > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Courtney Curran > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 7:36 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: voiceover saying programs have no focus > > Hi, > This is probably a silly question, but are you using your Mac mini without a > monitor? If that's the case, I think this might be a problem, I encountered > the same thing when I set up dropbox. I kind of crawled through the dropbox > setup when this happened, so to speak. > HTH, > Courtney > Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays > at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info > > On Sep 3, 2010, at 7:26 AM, Corey Knapp wrote: > >> How do you setup dropbox it just says busy when I run it? >> Thanks, >> Corey >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 2:55 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: voiceover saying programs have no focus >> >> Ah yeah you will hear that. dropbox works via the status menu but all >> you need do is copy and paste and give them the link to the file when >> you think it's ready. and the rs client you should just hear the system > voice. >> >> Good luck. >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:36 PM, johns.kary wrote: >> >>> Dropbox, and the RS games client. >>> Both of wich are ment to work on the mac. >>> Thanks, >>> Kari >>> On 03/09/2010, at 12:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> What programs did you install? Maybe they are located int eh menu bar and if that's the case you can't do much about that. Well you can but it takes a lot of fussing. *grins* Take care. Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:18 PM, johns.kary wrote: > hope someone can help hear, because I'm completely stumped. > I've tried to installl a couple of programs lately on my mac, but > once >> the programs running all I can get voiceover to say is, "program has >> no windows" or sometimes "program has no focus" > When a program does this, no matter what I do I cant get it to do > or say >> anything else. > Can anyone tell me what I need to do to fix this? > Thanks in advance, > Kari. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You re
Re: joining the mac squad.
Welcome. If you have any questions just ask. I'm no mac export but I have learned a lot from this and other lists including stuff I don't want to dip my toes in. lol! On Sep 3, 2010, at 5:21 AM, ian mcnamara wrote: > hello all by tommorrow afternoon i should be a memor of the mac squad going > to get my new mac tommorrow morning. > > also my friend will lomas is staying with me for the weekend so he will help > me with it tommorrow. > > ian mcnamara. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A reasonably priced sound editor for the Mac
I absolutely dislike audacity. the interface is so clunky it took me 30 minutes to edit a 1 minute clip. I can edit said 1 minute clip in Amadeus in about 30 seconds. Oh and I did read the tutorial at www.icanworkthisthing.com with no go. S On Sep 3, 2010, at 3:54 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > How about audacity? It's free. That's the most reasonable price I know. :) > On Sep 3, 2010, at 6:31 AM, Paul Hunt wrote: > >> Hello everyone. I'm looking for a reasonably priced accessible sound editor >> for the MAC? Any suggestions would help including where to get them. >> >> Thanks so much. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Trackpad tutorials for the blind, do they exist?
You can be faster. Just touch your finger on any part of the trackpad and you will get a layout of the screen. you can also flick and scroll. I use it to navigate a page rather quickly and on my iphone I have no choice. lol! Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ On Sep 3, 2010, at 5:04 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi there. > I so want to use the track pad, but have to admit i'm afraid to do so, > because i feel like i don't have any control over what's happening in apps > etc. This, however isn't Voiceovers or the fault of the Mac, it's my lack of > understanding of using the track pad to control the Mac, so i wonder has > anyone done a tutorial, podcast or other things about how to use the trackpad > to control VO? Can i actually be faster when using the trackpad than if i > used the keyboard? > Sorry for all the dumb questions but any help with this is greatly > appreciated. > /Krister > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Trackpad tutorials for the blind, do they exist?
It's on web pages that i feel i have no control if i just fool around, so to speak with the fingers, i feel it to be much slower than just using usual keyboard commands. /Krister 3 sep 2010 kl. 16.03 skrev Sarah Alawami: > You can be faster. Just touch your finger on any part of the trackpad and you > will get a layout of the screen. you can also flick and scroll. I use it to > navigate a page rather quickly and on my iphone I have no choice. lol! > Sarah Alawami > MSN: marri...@gmail.com > aim: marri...@gmail.com: > > website: http://music.marrie.org > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ > > On Sep 3, 2010, at 5:04 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> Hi there. >> I so want to use the track pad, but have to admit i'm afraid to do so, >> because i feel like i don't have any control over what's happening in apps >> etc. This, however isn't Voiceovers or the fault of the Mac, it's my lack of >> understanding of using the track pad to control the Mac, so i wonder has >> anyone done a tutorial, podcast or other things about how to use the >> trackpad to control VO? Can i actually be faster when using the trackpad >> than if i used the keyboard? >> Sorry for all the dumb questions but any help with this is greatly >> appreciated. >> /Krister >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
how to start legacy with the mac audio demo
Hi all. I just did a really quick unpolished demo on how to start and focus on legacy with the mac. It's a different technique than I've seen mention here and kind of hard to explain, so thought I would demonstrate. here's the link. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5035517/how%20to%20start%20legacy%20with%20the%20mac.mp3 Holly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
When it comes to the VO-shift-key commands, I can actually use one finger placed carefully on all of the modifier keys at once. Teresa On Sep 3, 2010, at 6:24 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > Andy, > > Do you really find the alternative of having to share keyboard commands and > work around keyboard conflicts with other screen readers? Honestly the > commands offered with VO are not nearly as complicated as some make it seem. > In fact with quick nav it has become much easier and I would take the > four-finger salutes over any windows-based screen reader command set any day. > Maybe this just comes with time, but you at least can alter t he layout of > the VO commands to emulate a layout that works best for you, such as using > thenumpad commander. > On Sep 3, 2010, at 8:15 AM, Andy Baracco wrote: > >> I don't like the many 4 finger salutes that you have to do with Voiceover. >> >> Andy >> >> >> >> "I'm pretty good at drinkin beer." >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell >> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 2:41 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen >> Readers Discussion Panel Questions >> >> ALthough you are entitled to your opinion, I have to completely disagree. >> There are few sites where a windows screen reader has done a better job. The >> reality is despite your assertions is that both platforms just as both >> screen readers has pros and cons. The Mac has by far more pros, however, >> there is no denying the fact that there is work to be done. Anyone who is >> honest with themselves will acknowledge this fact and the fact is APple is >> addressing these issues. One other factor that will influence your browsing >> experience is your ability to effectively use VOiceOver. For example, I use >> VoiceOver to browse the web personally and professionally with no >> difficulty. So, experience and familiarity will make a difference. >> Of course at the end of the day, you use what works for you. >> >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:57 PM, James Mannion wrote: >> >>> While I have much respect for both companies, I am glad I do not have >>> to depend on the Mac for my access, especially web browsing needs. >>> It-is-not-up-to-windows side standards by a long shot yet and the >>> windows side needs an overhall. I hear GW is working on that and I am >>> glad. I think a lot of people are blinded from reality because of the >>> light in which they want to paint Apple and their frustration with the >>> other side. >>> >>> On 9/2/10, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Very well written! On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:18 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > Guys, I tried to keep the below as polite and forthright as > possible, but it degenerates in places and reading and rereading, I > don't really see the benefit of removing some of the language that > might be considered offensive or abridging my comments. I really > feel this needs to be said, not for the purpose of offending, but > for the purpose of taking what I feel is the right stance. > > Hi Mark, this is bad... Very very bad. There are glaring > inaccuracies in this release. I sincerely hope you did not send it > to any public forums other than gw micro customer base. I've quoted > what I want to draw your attention to in my comments, but left the > entire article below for people to read in it's entirety. > > Article 6: You wrote, > "what incentive would Apple have to make their screen reader work > with Microsoft Office and what incentive would Microsoft have to > make their screen reader work with iTunes?" > This Demonstrates a lack of understanding on how the other side works. > Windows is not mac OS, and mac OS is not windows. On the mac side, > you have a screen reader, but you also have a fully accessible > operating system. The libraries and API's used to build programs > generate accessible programs, which are then read and interpreted by > an accessible operating system, which then sends information to > voiceover... or a talk box... or a TTY machine... Or whatever. For > now, Microsoft has chosen to make office for mac inaccessible at > great pains to themselves. Apple and adobe have a love hate > relationship, and so adobe products on the mac are hit and miss for > accessibility users and non alike. As the system develops though, > It will eventually become impossible to build a program on the mac > platform that is inaccessible to apples universal access design. As > such, all software written for macs will eventually be accessible, > whether you are blind, deaf, dyslexic, paraplegic, or have any other > disability. We may have to chase every version of ITunes on the > windows side, but
Re: voiceover saying programs have no focus
Hi, I just arrowed through it and waited patiently until it was through with saying busy all the time. It was a lengthy process but worth it in the end. Courtney Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info On Sep 3, 2010, at 8:59 AM, Corey Knapp wrote: > How did you get through it? > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Courtney Curran > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 7:36 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: voiceover saying programs have no focus > > Hi, > This is probably a silly question, but are you using your Mac mini without a > monitor? If that's the case, I think this might be a problem, I encountered > the same thing when I set up dropbox. I kind of crawled through the dropbox > setup when this happened, so to speak. > HTH, > Courtney > Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays > at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info > > On Sep 3, 2010, at 7:26 AM, Corey Knapp wrote: > >> How do you setup dropbox it just says busy when I run it? >> Thanks, >> Corey >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 2:55 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: voiceover saying programs have no focus >> >> Ah yeah you will hear that. dropbox works via the status menu but all >> you need do is copy and paste and give them the link to the file when >> you think it's ready. and the rs client you should just hear the system > voice. >> >> Good luck. >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:36 PM, johns.kary wrote: >> >>> Dropbox, and the RS games client. >>> Both of wich are ment to work on the mac. >>> Thanks, >>> Kari >>> On 03/09/2010, at 12:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> What programs did you install? Maybe they are located int eh menu bar and if that's the case you can't do much about that. Well you can but it takes a lot of fussing. *grins* Take care. Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:18 PM, johns.kary wrote: > hope someone can help hear, because I'm completely stumped. > I've tried to installl a couple of programs lately on my mac, but > once >> the programs running all I can get voiceover to say is, "program has >> no windows" or sometimes "program has no focus" > When a program does this, no matter what I do I cant get it to do > or say >> anything else. > Can anyone tell me what I need to do to fix this? > Thanks in advance, > Kari. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message bec
Re: voiceover saying programs have no focus
Hi, Although this doesn't make sense, it will work better with a monitor hooked up. HTH, Courtney Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info On Sep 3, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Corey Knapp wrote: > Yes I am using my mac mini without a monitor hooked up are you saying that > if I hook a monitor up it should work better? > Thanks for your help in advance. > Corey > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Courtney Curran > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 7:36 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: voiceover saying programs have no focus > > Hi, > This is probably a silly question, but are you using your Mac mini without a > monitor? If that's the case, I think this might be a problem, I encountered > the same thing when I set up dropbox. I kind of crawled through the dropbox > setup when this happened, so to speak. > HTH, > Courtney > Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays > at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info > > On Sep 3, 2010, at 7:26 AM, Corey Knapp wrote: > >> How do you setup dropbox it just says busy when I run it? >> Thanks, >> Corey >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 2:55 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: voiceover saying programs have no focus >> >> Ah yeah you will hear that. dropbox works via the status menu but all >> you need do is copy and paste and give them the link to the file when >> you think it's ready. and the rs client you should just hear the system > voice. >> >> Good luck. >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:36 PM, johns.kary wrote: >> >>> Dropbox, and the RS games client. >>> Both of wich are ment to work on the mac. >>> Thanks, >>> Kari >>> On 03/09/2010, at 12:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> What programs did you install? Maybe they are located int eh menu bar and if that's the case you can't do much about that. Well you can but it takes a lot of fussing. *grins* Take care. Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:18 PM, johns.kary wrote: > hope someone can help hear, because I'm completely stumped. > I've tried to installl a couple of programs lately on my mac, but > once >> the programs running all I can get voiceover to say is, "program has >> no windows" or sometimes "program has no focus" > When a program does this, no matter what I do I cant get it to do > or say >> anything else. > Can anyone tell me what I need to do to fix this? > Thanks in advance, > Kari. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/
Re: joining the mac squad.
Ian: Welcome, just put on your big boy pants and dive in. The watter's a little choppy at first, but you'll be sailing smoothly in no time:) Carolyn - Original Message - From: ian mcnamara To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 6:21 AM Subject: joining the mac squad. hello all by tommorrow afternoon i should be a memor of the mac squad going to get my new mac tommorrow morning. also my friend will lomas is staying with me for the weekend so he will help me with it tommorrow. ian mcnamara. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: joining the mac squad.
Hi Ian! Just like the others, welcome aboard! And if you find the waters to choppy I'm sure someone here will chuck you a rubber ring! :-] Colin Skype focus_66 On 3 Sep 2010, at 17:57, Carolyn wrote: > Ian: Welcome, just put on your big boy pants and dive in. The water's a > little choppy at first, but you'll be sailing smoothly in no time:) > > Carolyn > - Original Message - > From: ian mcnamara > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 6:21 AM > Subject: joining the mac squad. > > hello all by tomorrow afternoon i should be a memor of the mac squad > going to get my new mac tomorrow morning. > > also my friend will lomas is staying with me for the weekend so he will > help me with it tomorrow. > > ian mcnamara. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Oops! Deleted a folder of bookmarks in Safari
I think that would be a good idea if Sarai's been backing up with Time Machine. On Sep 3, 2010, at 5:35 AM, focus wrote: > Hi Sarai! > Trust me I'm no expert but if I understand what it does! > Could you use timemachine to retrieve your bookmarks! > Sorry if I'm wrong! > Colin > Skype focus_66 > On 3 Sep 2010, at 10:19, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > >> Hi: >> No luck. >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:37 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: >> >>> Have you done anything else since then? Could always try cmd+Z. >>> >>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:45 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >>> All: This will teach me to work on this Mac late! I accidentally deleted my Apple folder from my Safari bookmarks. It isn't in the trash. How can I get it back? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) >>> Pete Nalda >>> http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda >>> http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover saying programs have no focus
Hi, It does, actually, since Mac OS X continuously looks for a monitor as it works. That's the stripped down explanation, anyway. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com Facebook Twitter Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk Yahoo! Messenger: cin368 AIM: cincinster On Sep 3, 2010, at 6:21 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > Although this doesn't make sense, it will work better with a monitor hooked > up. > HTH, > Courtney > > Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays at > 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info > > On Sep 3, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Corey Knapp wrote: > >> Yes I am using my mac mini without a monitor hooked up are you saying that >> if I hook a monitor up it should work better? >> Thanks for your help in advance. >> Corey >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Courtney Curran >> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 7:36 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: voiceover saying programs have no focus >> >> Hi, >> This is probably a silly question, but are you using your Mac mini without a >> monitor? If that's the case, I think this might be a problem, I encountered >> the same thing when I set up dropbox. I kind of crawled through the dropbox >> setup when this happened, so to speak. >> HTH, >> Courtney >> Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays >> at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info >> >> On Sep 3, 2010, at 7:26 AM, Corey Knapp wrote: >> >>> How do you setup dropbox it just says busy when I run it? >>> Thanks, >>> Corey >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >>> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 2:55 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: voiceover saying programs have no focus >>> >>> Ah yeah you will hear that. dropbox works via the status menu but all >>> you need do is copy and paste and give them the link to the file when >>> you think it's ready. and the rs client you should just hear the system >> voice. >>> >>> Good luck. >>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 9:36 PM, johns.kary wrote: >>> Dropbox, and the RS games client. Both of wich are ment to work on the mac. Thanks, Kari On 03/09/2010, at 12:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > What programs did you install? Maybe they are located int eh menu > bar and if that's the case you can't do much about that. Well you > can but it takes a lot of fussing. *grins* > > Take care. > Sarah Alawami > MSN: marri...@gmail.com > aim: marri...@gmail.com: > > website: http://music.marrie.org > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:18 PM, johns.kary wrote: > >> hope someone can help hear, because I'm completely stumped. >> I've tried to installl a couple of programs lately on my mac, but >> once >>> the programs running all I can get voiceover to say is, "program has >>> no windows" or sometimes "program has no focus" >> When a program does this, no matter what I do I cant get it to do >> or say >>> anything else. >> Can anyone tell me what I need to do to fix this? >> Thanks in advance, >> Kari. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, se
Re: MS Word's lack of access with VO
You can thank that utterly corrupt organization called the NFB for the lack of accessibility products and tools from Microsoft. Years ago the NFB protested literally on the steps of Microsoft HQ because they had received a pay off from a 3rd party that will remain nameless but their initials are FS. This seven figure payoff is to this day why the NFB works against accessibility natively in products. This is also why the NFB and their allied organizations are so hostile against Apple, they don't get a cut. The NFB has done more to harm the blind community than just about anyone else so you have them to thank for the lack of accessibility. Frankly if I were Microsoft after the treatment they received I would actively do everything I could to insure that products weren't accessible so you didn't have a bunch of pissed off militant blinks demanding justice on your doorstep. Thanks NFB, we love you! On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:03 AM, cathyk wrote: > Dear List, > I've been struck by how willing we are to accept the fact that VO > doesn't work natively with MS Word. At one level all the work-arounds > show just how flexible, enterprising, and creative we are; every > employer should be eager to hire anyone with such spark and, yes, > ability. But am I the only one who fluctuates between sadness and > outright anger that a program like MS Word, so standard in every > single thing related to word processing, isn't accessible from the get- > go? Every work-around means time and energy taken away from the main > task at hand, whatever it is we're hoping to do. Each conversion on > its own is just a few seconds here and there. But these seconds add > up, plus they leave us open to unnecessary mistakes, which reflect > badly on our capabilities. > > I know some people on this list have been trying to change this. I > propose we band together, and really push for this to happen > collectively. We can certainly make it more public that despite all > the claims for accessibility, VO doesn't work with a MAJOR program. I > frankly don't care whether the fault lies with Apple or Microsoft - > they need to be made to play together, just as they surely have on > other matters. As an added incentive, I know that lots more sighted > people are warming to the idea of having long documents read to them, > which means that this improvement would have broader benefits and > could even be a marketing tool for Apple to tout its screen reader as > an interesting technology for all. > > Please excuse this rant, but it's been building up; I just can't > understand why we're so willing to accept the status quo when the > thing that excited so many of us about the Mac was finally being part > of mainstream technology. > > In solidarity, > cathyk > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Word's lack of access with VO
Wouldn't count on it. Write to the NFB since they clearly speak for us right? On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:00 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > Does anybody know if Microsoft has an email address for their accessibility > team like Apple does with their accessibil...@apple.com address? > I'd be interested to ask Microsoft if the forthcoming Office 2011 for Mac has > been redesigned to work with VO. > > Thank you, > Bryan > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:03 AM, cathyk wrote: > >> Dear List, >> I've been struck by how willing we are to accept the fact that VO >> doesn't work natively with MS Word. At one level all the work-arounds >> show just how flexible, enterprising, and creative we are; every >> employer should be eager to hire anyone with such spark and, yes, >> ability. But am I the only one who fluctuates between sadness and >> outright anger that a program like MS Word, so standard in every >> single thing related to word processing, isn't accessible from the get- >> go? Every work-around means time and energy taken away from the main >> task at hand, whatever it is we're hoping to do. Each conversion on >> its own is just a few seconds here and there. But these seconds add >> up, plus they leave us open to unnecessary mistakes, which reflect >> badly on our capabilities. >> >> I know some people on this list have been trying to change this. I >> propose we band together, and really push for this to happen >> collectively. We can certainly make it more public that despite all >> the claims for accessibility, VO doesn't work with a MAJOR program. I >> frankly don't care whether the fault lies with Apple or Microsoft - >> they need to be made to play together, just as they surely have on >> other matters. As an added incentive, I know that lots more sighted >> people are warming to the idea of having long documents read to them, >> which means that this improvement would have broader benefits and >> could even be a marketing tool for Apple to tout its screen reader as >> an interesting technology for all. >> >> Please excuse this rant, but it's been building up; I just can't >> understand why we're so willing to accept the status quo when the >> thing that excited so many of us about the Mac was finally being part >> of mainstream technology. >> >> In solidarity, >> cathyk >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
GW Micro has also paid off the NFB so I'm sure it's not totally coincidence. On Sep 2, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Just to let you know, I did in fact see the article of responses by GWMicro > last night. It was posted to GUITalk; an NFB mailing list. This should not > be taken to mean that NFB has endorsed it; just that somebody put it on the > list. > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! > > E-Mail: > rforetjr at comcast dot net > Skype Name: > barefootedray > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > > Way to go, Erik. Thank you. > > Teresa > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: future of screen readers
Remember, it's not in GW Micro's interest to say anything positive about native accessibility. They can't afford as a business for Apple to become popular just like a CF can't afford the IPhone to become popular etc. Instead of differentiating themselves and coexisting they have to bank of fear and disinformation to promote their cause. On Sep 2, 2010, at 5:44 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote: > Hi guys > I personally am a big fan of the mac. I also really like vinux3.0 based on > Ubuntu. Orca is coming along nicely and its nice to use ubuntu to legally and > freely turn my pc into a mac which talks out of the box and for $5 I get > voxin to use with it. I am disappointed that gwmicro did not even mention the > fact linux distributions such as vinux and knoppix-adriane and grml exist. > One of the reasons I like vinux is because it pretty much turns any pc into a > macLike computer with the same or better security and stability just as the > mac has on it. With vinux I just plug in my braille display and it works, usb > and passport drives show up as icons on the desktop. There's no safely remove > hardware. it has a calculator, dictionary, web browser, at least two email > programs, a ful office suite including powerpoint, and that's just scratching > the surface. If you install emacs you get the gnome desktop plus the emacs > audio desktop with voxin. You can use both console and graphical modes. Don't > want to remember tons of commands? then don't worry about it, you can just > copy and paste commands into the terminal. Vinux only needs 384 mb to 512mb > of ram to run. if you plan on using vmware player and windows7 then get at > least 3gb of ram. win-xp and win98 need much much less ram. I love my mac and > I love vinux3.0 equally! GwMicro doesn't seem to want to really acknowledge > apple, or NVDA, or serotek, or vinux or grml or knoppix-adriane at all. > > Josh Kennedy > jkenn...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: long rant was Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen Readers Discussion Panel Questions
I disagree, Safari and VO are a better web browsing solution than JFW and I.E. that's for damn sure. Speed, dynamic updates, access to java and on and on. I use both and have Windows under a VM plus apile of windows boxes and over the last week of learning have almost entirely dropped windows for everything aside outlook access and Microsoft word. (company requirements, not under my control) On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:57 PM, James Mannion wrote: > While I have much respect for both companies, I am glad I do not have > to depend on the Mac for my access, especially web browsing needs. > It-is-not-up-to-windows side standards by a long shot yet and the > windows side needs an overhall. I hear GW is working on that and I am > glad. I think a lot of people are blinded from reality because of the > light in which they want to paint Apple and their frustration with the > other side. > > On 9/2/10, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >> Very well written! >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:18 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >> >>> Guys, I tried to keep the below as polite and forthright as possible, but >>> it degenerates in places and reading and rereading, I don't really see the >>> benefit of removing some of the language that might be considered >>> offensive or abridging my comments. I really feel this needs to be said, >>> not for the purpose of offending, but for the purpose of taking what I >>> feel is the right stance. >>> >>> Hi Mark, this is bad... Very very bad. There are glaring inaccuracies >>> in this release. I sincerely hope you did not send it to any public >>> forums other than gw micro customer base. I've quoted what I want to draw >>> your attention to in my comments, but left the entire article below for >>> people to read in it's entirety. >>> >>> Article 6: You wrote, >>> "what incentive would Apple have to make their screen reader work with >>> Microsoft Office and what incentive would Microsoft have to make their >>> screen reader work with iTunes?" >>> This Demonstrates a lack of understanding on how the other side works. >>> Windows is not mac OS, and mac OS is not windows. On the mac side, you >>> have a screen reader, but you also have a fully accessible operating >>> system. The libraries and API's used to build programs generate >>> accessible programs, which are then read and interpreted by an accessible >>> operating system, which then sends information to voiceover... or a talk >>> box... or a TTY machine... Or whatever. For now, Microsoft has chosen to >>> make office for mac inaccessible at great pains to themselves. Apple and >>> adobe have a love hate relationship, and so adobe products on the mac are >>> hit and miss for accessibility users and non alike. As the system >>> develops though, It will eventually become impossible to build a program >>> on the mac platform that is inaccessible to apples universal access >>> design. As such, all software written for macs will eventually be >>> accessible, whether you are blind, deaf, dyslexic, paraplegic, or have any >>> other disability. We may have to chase every version of ITunes on the >>> windows side, but eventually office for mac will be accessible whether ms >>> likes it or not, unless they simply choose to scrap office for mac >>> development before things get to that stage. We still have a ways to go. >>> Article Seven: you wrote, >>> "In addition, GW Micro is the only screen reader manufacturer to host and >>> moderate an email discussion list. This list is a great resource that >>> allows our customers to discuss technical issues and questions with GW >>> Micro’s technical support team as well others in the Window-Eyes >>> community." >>> This is incorrect. NVDA developers run their own user support group >>> exactly like GW Micro's. The lead developer of the Espeak software was >>> also a regular contributor when I was there, and There should be a brlty >>> developer on there by now. Apples accessibility team also monitors the >>> macvisionaries user group. While they don't usually participate, hundreds >>> of feature requests that get bandied about the group are implemented with >>> every new release. I know for a fact that they are watching that group >>> because they have posted publicly there on occasion, and the fact that >>> they are usually quiet doesn't mean they are ignoring their customer base. >>> I believe duxbury systems moderates it's own groups, and I'm sure there >>> are others. >>> >>> Article 9: This made me furious when I read it because it demonstrates an >>> appalling amount of sheer ignorance. The statements are categorically >>> false, and should be retracted immediately before they generate well >>> deserved ill feelings against the company you represent. I'd like to say, >>> I have been an apple user for 2 and a half years. before that I was a >>> very happy window-eyes user, and though I seldom actually use the product >>> these days, I still keep up my sma, and my swit
Re: joining the mac squad.
I whole heartedly agree. For me I spent a solid day and got down the basics. It grows on you and soon enough you'll be realizing just how good the Mac is. On Sep 3, 2010, at 12:57 PM, Carolyn wrote: > Ian: Welcome, just put on your big boy pants and dive in. The watter's a > little choppy at first, but you'll be sailing smoothly in no time:) > > Carolyn > - Original Message - > From: ian mcnamara > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 6:21 AM > Subject: joining the mac squad. > > hello all by tommorrow afternoon i should be a memor of the mac squad > going to get my new mac tommorrow morning. > > also my friend will lomas is staying with me for the weekend so he will > help me with it tommorrow. > > ian mcnamara. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Go to page in Text Edit
Hi, Command option G did not do anything in text edit. I checked the Getting Started Guide and did a Google search but both came up blank. Is there a similar command that works in Text Edit? Thanks, Linda On Sep 3, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: > HI Roberto, > > Try interacting, then navigating to the page. I also use the bookmark feature > which seems to work well in Preview. > > Cheers, > Kein > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Go to page in Text Edit
As far as I know, there's no specific command in TextEdit for "go to page". If you have page numbers in your document, you can have VO or TextEdit search for them for you, though. Teresa On Sep 3, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Linda Adams wrote: > Hi, > > Command option G did not do anything in text edit. I checked the Getting > Started Guide and did a Google search but both came up blank. Is there a > similar command that works in Text Edit? > > Thanks, > Linda > > On Sep 3, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: > >> HI Roberto, >> >> Try interacting, then navigating to the page. I also use the bookmark >> feature which seems to work well in Preview. >> >> Cheers, >> Kein >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: joining the mac squad.
what kind of a mac are you getting? On Sep 3, 2010, at 8:21 AM, ian mcnamara wrote: > hello all by tommorrow afternoon i should be a memor of the mac squad going > to get my new mac tommorrow morning. > > also my friend will lomas is staying with me for the weekend so he will help > me with it tommorrow. > > ian mcnamara. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Go to page in Text Edit
I believe si some how used the ruler to navagate to the correct page but that was over 5 months ago so can't remember and the esay was due in a matter of hours. lol! On Sep 3, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > As far as I know, there's no specific command in TextEdit for "go to page". > If you have page numbers in your document, you can have VO or TextEdit search > for them for you, though. > > Teresa > On Sep 3, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Linda Adams wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Command option G did not do anything in text edit. I checked the Getting >> Started Guide and did a Google search but both came up blank. Is there a >> similar command that works in Text Edit? >> >> Thanks, >> Linda >> >> On Sep 3, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: >> >>> HI Roberto, >>> >>> Try interacting, then navigating to the page. I also use the bookmark >>> feature which seems to work well in Preview. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Kein >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Word's lack of access with VO
Actually I can contraduct that statuemtn as they ave an aware to apple called the jacob bolaton award for ther eaccessbility built in to the products and software. S On Sep 3, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > You can thank that utterly corrupt organization called the NFB for the lack > of accessibility products and tools from Microsoft. > > Years ago the NFB protested literally on the steps of Microsoft HQ because > they had received a pay off from a 3rd party that will remain nameless but > their initials are FS. This seven figure payoff is to this day why the NFB > works against accessibility natively in products. This is also why the NFB > and their allied organizations are so hostile against Apple, they don't get a > cut. The NFB has done more to harm the blind community than just about > anyone else so you have them to thank for the lack of accessibility. Frankly > if I were Microsoft after the treatment they received I would actively do > everything I could to insure that products weren't accessible so you didn't > have a bunch of pissed off militant blinks demanding justice on your doorstep. > > Thanks NFB, we love you! > > > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:03 AM, cathyk wrote: > >> Dear List, >> I've been struck by how willing we are to accept the fact that VO >> doesn't work natively with MS Word. At one level all the work-arounds >> show just how flexible, enterprising, and creative we are; every >> employer should be eager to hire anyone with such spark and, yes, >> ability. But am I the only one who fluctuates between sadness and >> outright anger that a program like MS Word, so standard in every >> single thing related to word processing, isn't accessible from the get- >> go? Every work-around means time and energy taken away from the main >> task at hand, whatever it is we're hoping to do. Each conversion on >> its own is just a few seconds here and there. But these seconds add >> up, plus they leave us open to unnecessary mistakes, which reflect >> badly on our capabilities. >> >> I know some people on this list have been trying to change this. I >> propose we band together, and really push for this to happen >> collectively. We can certainly make it more public that despite all >> the claims for accessibility, VO doesn't work with a MAJOR program. I >> frankly don't care whether the fault lies with Apple or Microsoft - >> they need to be made to play together, just as they surely have on >> other matters. As an added incentive, I know that lots more sighted >> people are warming to the idea of having long documents read to them, >> which means that this improvement would have broader benefits and >> could even be a marketing tool for Apple to tout its screen reader as >> an interesting technology for all. >> >> Please excuse this rant, but it's been building up; I just can't >> understand why we're so willing to accept the status quo when the >> thing that excited so many of us about the Mac was finally being part >> of mainstream technology. >> >> In solidarity, >> cathyk >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: joining the mac squad.
and on epoint is to use it in practical situations. I was taking my mac to school the next day taking notes. S On Sep 3, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > I whole heartedly agree. > > For me I spent a solid day and got down the basics. It grows on you and soon > enough you'll be realizing just how good the Mac is. > > > On Sep 3, 2010, at 12:57 PM, Carolyn wrote: > >> Ian: Welcome, just put on your big boy pants and dive in. The watter's a >> little choppy at first, but you'll be sailing smoothly in no time:) >> >> Carolyn >> - Original Message - >> From: ian mcnamara >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 6:21 AM >> Subject: joining the mac squad. >> >> hello all by tommorrow afternoon i should be a memor of the mac squad >> going to get my new mac tommorrow morning. >> >> also my friend will lomas is staying with me for the weekend so he will >> help me with it tommorrow. >> >> ian mcnamara. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: get iphone 3gs or iphone 4?
Hi Simon, What is say text? - Original Message - From: "Simon Fogarty" To: Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 9:16 AM Subject: RE: get iphone 3gs or iphone 4? Speed, better / smoother use of VO, and the possibly beneficial apps like say text. Which works ok on the iphone 4, but as yet haven't had any luck on the 3gs. Having played with both, I'd say wait till the 4 comes out. The speed alone is worth while with vo. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Erkens Sent: Sunday, 29 August 2010 5:41 a.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: get iphone 3gs or iphone 4? Hi list, As the iphone 4 is now in the market, I'm wondering which to buy. The 3gs has become tremendously cheap these days, and the iphone 4 is 5 weeks waiting over here in the Netherlands. Are there any good reasons for a blindy to wait for the iphone 4, or can I just get myself a 3gs without sacrificing much functionality? Some of you listers will know, so I'm looking forward to hearing from you about this. Is a 4 better for us than a 3gs? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
connecting to a windows machine via remote desktop
I suspect the answer is no, but can you connect to a windows machine with remote desktop on a mac and have speech on the mac through voice over or jaws on the windows side without having to install windows on the mac? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: joining the mac squad.
getting an eye mac but don't know exactly which one i am getting yet. ian mcnamara. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: connecting to a windows machine via remote desktop
Probably not. you would have ot install windows in a vm or bootcamp depending on what you are doing. S On Sep 3, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote: > I suspect the answer is no, but can you connect to a windows machine with > remote desktop on a mac and have speech on the mac through voice over or jaws > on the windows side without having to install windows on the mac? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: get iphone 3gs or iphone 4?
Saytext is a scanning program for the iphone. It has a lot of work ahead of it but all in all it will be a good product. On Sep 3, 2010, at 3:17 PM, Paul Erkens wrote: > Hi Simon, > > What is say text? > - Original Message - From: "Simon Fogarty" > To: > Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 9:16 AM > Subject: RE: get iphone 3gs or iphone 4? > > >> Speed, better / smoother use of VO, and the possibly beneficial apps like >> say text. Which works ok on the iphone 4, but as yet haven't had any luck on >> the 3gs. >> Having played with both, I'd say wait till the 4 comes out. The speed >> alone is worth while with vo. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Erkens >> Sent: Sunday, 29 August 2010 5:41 a.m. >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: get iphone 3gs or iphone 4? >> >> Hi list, >> >> As the iphone 4 is now in the market, I'm wondering which to buy. The 3gs >> has become tremendously cheap these days, and the iphone 4 is 5 weeks >> waiting over here in the Netherlands. >> >> Are there any good reasons for a blindy to wait for the iphone 4, or can I >> just get myself a 3gs without sacrificing much functionality? Some of you >> listers will know, so I'm looking forward to hearing from you about this. Is >> a 4 better for us than a 3gs? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Word's lack of access with VO
Scott, Scott, Scott: While there are those of us who would likely agree with you, that opinion is probably best kept among those people you are sure would agree. Carolyn - Original Message - From: Scott Granados To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 2:57 PM Subject: Re: MS Word's lack of access with VO You can thank that utterly corrupt organization called the NFB for the lack of accessibility products and tools from Microsoft. Years ago the NFB protested literally on the steps of Microsoft HQ because they had received a pay off from a 3rd party that will remain nameless but their initials are FS. This seven figure payoff is to this day why the NFB works against accessibility natively in products. This is also why the NFB and their allied organizations are so hostile against Apple, they don't get a cut. The NFB has done more to harm the blind community than just about anyone else so you have them to thank for the lack of accessibility. Frankly if I were Microsoft after the treatment they received I would actively do everything I could to insure that products weren't accessible so you didn't have a bunch of pissed off militant blinks demanding justice on your doorstep. Thanks NFB, we love you! On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:03 AM, cathyk wrote: > Dear List, > I've been struck by how willing we are to accept the fact that VO > doesn't work natively with MS Word. At one level all the work-arounds > show just how flexible, enterprising, and creative we are; every > employer should be eager to hire anyone with such spark and, yes, > ability. But am I the only one who fluctuates between sadness and > outright anger that a program like MS Word, so standard in every > single thing related to word processing, isn't accessible from the get- > go? Every work-around means time and energy taken away from the main > task at hand, whatever it is we're hoping to do. Each conversion on > its own is just a few seconds here and there. But these seconds add > up, plus they leave us open to unnecessary mistakes, which reflect > badly on our capabilities. > > I know some people on this list have been trying to change this. I > propose we band together, and really push for this to happen > collectively. We can certainly make it more public that despite all > the claims for accessibility, VO doesn't work with a MAJOR program. I > frankly don't care whether the fault lies with Apple or Microsoft - > they need to be made to play together, just as they surely have on > other matters. As an added incentive, I know that lots more sighted > people are warming to the idea of having long documents read to them, > which means that this improvement would have broader benefits and > could even be a marketing tool for Apple to tout its screen reader as > an interesting technology for all. > > Please excuse this rant, but it's been building up; I just can't > understand why we're so willing to accept the status quo when the > thing that excited so many of us about the Mac was finally being part > of mainstream technology. > > In solidarity, > cathyk > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Apple hiring engineers, 3 positions accessibility related
Hi All, In light of my recent query about VO & MS Word, I'm very pleased by these job announcements. I'd like to propose at least two more that Apple consider: customer service reps who can demonstrate the access features based on first-hand, in-depth experience, and someone who will write a truly useful user manual for VO. Don't get me wrong: I think Apple has made amazing advances in assistive tech. This is why I'm eager to have a company that is riding an unprecedented wave of financial success (and one that boasts extraordinary customer service) devote a tiny portion of these profits to paying people whose sole job is explain how the features work. I think I read on this list that someone is compiling an informal manual; if this is true, make Apple pay you for your hard work, just as the company surely paid someone to write all the other manuals. And if I'm missing where I can get info beyond posting queries to this list, reading through the (not very) in- depth user guide, or watching the sorry short videos, please do tell! Feeling feisty on a Friday, cathyk On Sep 3, 5:10 am, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi all, > > Forgive the cross post. I received the following info on the Top Tech > Tidbits mailing list, and thought that perhaps it would be of interest to > some here. I also think it supports well the points that some of us have > been making about Apple's commitment to accessibility. I personally find the > fact that they're hiring three engineers for accessibility related work to be > very impressive. > > Apple is hiring an Accessibility SoftwareQuality > engineerhttp://jobs.apple.com/index.ajs?BID=1&method=mExternal.showJob&RID=54... > an Accessibility Software > Engineerhttp://jobs.apple.com/index.ajs?BID=1&method=mExternal.showJob&RID=57... > an iPhone Accessibility > engineerhttp://jobs.apple.com/index.ajs?BID=1&method=mExternal.showJob&RID=54... > and a WebKit > engineerhttp://jobs.apple.com/index.ajs?BID=1&method=mExternal.showJob&RID=50... > > Best, > Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Word's lack of access with VO
It's not about agreeing or not. It's about cold, hard, varifyable facts and our history. Are we not to comment about the harm done to accessibility because the NFB said so? I don't mean to be intentionally confrontational, I leave that for other non technical lists but statements and comments were being made and questions asked and these posters deserve to under stand the truth about the state of affairs. A very simple google search will give you more than enough supporting facts of my position. It's important that we not blaim companies when it's our selves that are doing the damage. We'll never proceed on and make progress if we blindly follow organizations off a cliff while they have only the bottom line in mind not our successes. I'll end this line of commenting and only intended to spread some truth instead of having lots of us going off half assed writing Microsoft and Apple when it's our own fault. Thank you Scott On Sep 3, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Carolyn wrote: > Scott, Scott, Scott: > While there are those of us who would likely agree with you, that opinion is > probably best kept among those people you are sure would agree. > > Carolyn > > - Original Message - > From: Scott Granados > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 2:57 PM > Subject: Re: MS Word's lack of access with VO > > You can thank that utterly corrupt organization called the NFB for the lack > of accessibility products and tools from Microsoft. > > Years ago the NFB protested literally on the steps of Microsoft HQ because > they had received a pay off from a 3rd party that will remain nameless but > their initials are FS. This seven figure payoff is to this day why the NFB > works against accessibility natively in products. This is also why the NFB > and their allied organizations are so hostile against Apple, they don't get a > cut. The NFB has done more to harm the blind community than just about > anyone else so you have them to thank for the lack of accessibility. Frankly > if I were Microsoft after the treatment they received I would actively do > everything I could to insure that products weren't accessible so you didn't > have a bunch of pissed off militant blinks demanding justice on your doorstep. > > Thanks NFB, we love you! > > > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:03 AM, cathyk wrote: > > > Dear List, > > I've been struck by how willing we are to accept the fact that VO > > doesn't work natively with MS Word. At one level all the work-arounds > > show just how flexible, enterprising, and creative we are; every > > employer should be eager to hire anyone with such spark and, yes, > > ability. But am I the only one who fluctuates between sadness and > > outright anger that a program like MS Word, so standard in every > > single thing related to word processing, isn't accessible from the get- > > go? Every work-around means time and energy taken away from the main > > task at hand, whatever it is we're hoping to do. Each conversion on > > its own is just a few seconds here and there. But these seconds add > > up, plus they leave us open to unnecessary mistakes, which reflect > > badly on our capabilities. > > > > I know some people on this list have been trying to change this. I > > propose we band together, and really push for this to happen > > collectively. We can certainly make it more public that despite all > > the claims for accessibility, VO doesn't work with a MAJOR program. I > > frankly don't care whether the fault lies with Apple or Microsoft - > > they need to be made to play together, just as they surely have on > > other matters. As an added incentive, I know that lots more sighted > > people are warming to the idea of having long documents read to them, > > which means that this improvement would have broader benefits and > > could even be a marketing tool for Apple to tout its screen reader as > > an interesting technology for all. > > > > Please excuse this rant, but it's been building up; I just can't > > understand why we're so willing to accept the status quo when the > > thing that excited so many of us about the Mac was finally being part > > of mainstream technology. > > > > In solidarity, > > cathyk > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://
Re: joining the mac squad.
what are you going to do with all of that time you used to spend complaining about Windows? On Sep 3, 2010, at 5:35 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > I whole heartedly agree. > > For me I spent a solid day and got down the basics. It grows on you and soon > enough you'll be realizing just how good the Mac is. > > > On Sep 3, 2010, at 12:57 PM, Carolyn wrote: > >> Ian: Welcome, just put on your big boy pants and dive in. The watter's a >> little choppy at first, but you'll be sailing smoothly in no time:) >> >> Carolyn >> - Original Message - >> From: ian mcnamara >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 6:21 AM >> Subject: joining the mac squad. >> >> hello all by tommorrow afternoon i should be a memor of the mac squad >> going to get my new mac tommorrow morning. >> >> also my friend will lomas is staying with me for the weekend so he will >> help me with it tommorrow. >> >> ian mcnamara. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
how to get pictures off from my i phone useing a mac?
Hi i need to know how do i get pictures off from my iphone using a mac my iphone doesn't show up in the finder like it shood please help if you can thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Word's lack of access with VO
Scot, It's messages such as yours which show just how narrow minded and small minded some people can be. Frankly, remarks such as yours against the NFB are not why I joined this list; and, to speak frankly, if this sort of thing is going to continue, I will be compelled to leave. That is not why I joined this list. I joined to get good information about the Mac and how to use Voice OVer with it. The kind of hatred you exhibit in your message is baggage I really have no room for now or ever. When you insult the NFB like this, you insult me; because, you see, I am a member of that organization. They didn't pay me to come on here and say this, I say it on my own. Hate the NFB if you want too; that's your right. But, if you imagine for one minute that spewing your hatred openly like this is not going to have any consequences, you are wrong. That's all I'm going to say to you now or ever!!! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! E-Mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net Skype Name: barefootedray On Sep 3, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Scott Granados wrote: It's not about agreeing or not. It's about cold, hard, varifyable facts and our history. Are we not to comment about the harm done to accessibility because the NFB said so? I don't mean to be intentionally confrontational, I leave that for other non technical lists but statements and comments were being made and questions asked and these posters deserve to under stand the truth about the state of affairs. A very simple google search will give you more than enough supporting facts of my position. It's important that we not blaim companies when it's our selves that are doing the damage. We'll never proceed on and make progress if we blindly follow organizations off a cliff while they have only the bottom line in mind not our successes. I'll end this line of commenting and only intended to spread some truth instead of having lots of us going off half assed writing Microsoft and Apple when it's our own fault. Thank you Scott On Sep 3, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Carolyn wrote: > Scott, Scott, Scott: > While there are those of us who would likely agree with you, that opinion is > probably best kept among those people you are sure would agree. > > Carolyn > > - Original Message - > From: Scott Granados > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 2:57 PM > Subject: Re: MS Word's lack of access with VO > > You can thank that utterly corrupt organization called the NFB for the lack > of accessibility products and tools from Microsoft. > > Years ago the NFB protested literally on the steps of Microsoft HQ because > they had received a pay off from a 3rd party that will remain nameless but > their initials are FS. This seven figure payoff is to this day why the NFB > works against accessibility natively in products. This is also why the NFB > and their allied organizations are so hostile against Apple, they don't get a > cut. The NFB has done more to harm the blind community than just about > anyone else so you have them to thank for the lack of accessibility. Frankly > if I were Microsoft after the treatment they received I would actively do > everything I could to insure that products weren't accessible so you didn't > have a bunch of pissed off militant blinks demanding justice on your doorstep. > > Thanks NFB, we love you! > > > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:03 AM, cathyk wrote: > > > Dear List, > > I've been struck by how willing we are to accept the fact that VO > > doesn't work natively with MS Word. At one level all the work-arounds > > show just how flexible, enterprising, and creative we are; every > > employer should be eager to hire anyone with such spark and, yes, > > ability. But am I the only one who fluctuates between sadness and > > outright anger that a program like MS Word, so standard in every > > single thing related to word processing, isn't accessible from the get- > > go? Every work-around means time and energy taken away from the main > > task at hand, whatever it is we're hoping to do. Each conversion on > > its own is just a few seconds here and there. But these seconds add > > up, plus they leave us open to unnecessary mistakes, which reflect > > badly on our capabilities. > > > > I know some people on this list have been trying to change this. I > > propose we band together, and really push for this to happen > > collectively. We can certainly make it more public that despite all > > the claims for accessibility, VO doesn't work with a MAJOR program. I > > frankly don't care whether the fault lies with Apple or Microsoft - > > they need to be made to play together, just as they surely have on > > other matters. As an added incentive, I know that lots more sighted > > people are warming to the idea of having long documents read to them, > > which means that this improvement would have broader benefits and > > could
add to itunes as a spoken track with itunes 10
Hello all, i just have discovered that the function , add to itunes as a spoken track, don't work anymore. I have already done a permission repair but the problem isn't solved. I think , but I am not shore, that the problem appears after the upgrade to itunes 10. This function is done with workflows and, both: the workflow included by default from apple and the adapted workflow from www.universalaccess.it aren't working both. Is here someone that has this problem also? If so, we can report to accessibility... thanx for your answers, best regards, William -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: how to get pictures off from my i phone useing a mac?
First, when your iphone is connected to the mac, in iTunes make sure sync photos is checked. Then sync. Then the photos from the phone should show up in iPhoto. On Sep 3, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Conrad Bennett wrote: > Hi i need to know how do i get pictures off from my iphone using a mac my > iphone doesn't show up in the finder like it shood please help if you can > thanks. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MobleMe Help!
Hi: I had to interact, and mouse click the PC, then move over a cell in the table to unrigister. After unrigistering all computers, and restarting MM preferences, I was able to rerigister the computers and sync. On Sep 3, 2010, at 4:49 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > Interesting because I just open the Mobile Me preferences on my Mac and under > advanced it shows me the computers that are registered. If you have Apple > Care or can e-mail Mobile Me support, they might have some other solutions. > However, I have not encountered this type of problem, I have always been able > to access the list of registered computers. > On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:03 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > >> Hi: >> I have two Machines. My Mac my PC, & my phone. The weird thing is you cannot >> unregister! It doesn't give you that options in advanced options. You can >> only register; however the mac is already registered because It is in the >> list of registered computers. >> On Sep 2, 2010, at 7:42 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> Sara if you have only the one machine and that is the only machine you have >>> been syncing to Mobile Me, perhaps unregister the machine and register and >>> sync again. In this case, allow Mobile me to have its content replaced by >>> the content from your machine. >>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:14 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >>> All: My subscription just changed from trial to individual. The problem is under MobleMe sync preferences it says never been synked. It shows my MBP & another PC in the table list, but sync is unchecked. When I check sync, it asks me to register my MBP. I click register, and it says a computer with that name is already registered, if I choose okay, I could lose data on all computers. I went to advanced to try and unregester the computers, and reregister them, but my only option is to register the computer, and it is already registered. I've been using it for two months. I can access my Mobleme email, contents on idisk, etc, I just can't sync anymore. Sarai Bucciarelli Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Oops! Deleted a folder of bookmarks in Safari
Hi: I make a bootable backup with Carbon Copy Cloner. It looks like there isn't a way to retrieve favorites that were deleted. I ended up using MobileMe to sync them from another PC. I like CCC over Time Machine b/c I can create a bootable backup. I appreciate all the help. bootable Sarai Bucciarelli Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia On Sep 3, 2010, at 1:22 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: > I think that would be a good idea if Sarai's been backing up with Time > Machine. > > On Sep 3, 2010, at 5:35 AM, focus wrote: > >> Hi Sarai! >> Trust me I'm no expert but if I understand what it does! >> Could you use timemachine to retrieve your bookmarks! >> Sorry if I'm wrong! >> Colin >> Skype focus_66 >> On 3 Sep 2010, at 10:19, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: >> >>> Hi: >>> No luck. >>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:37 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: >>> Have you done anything else since then? Could always try cmd+Z. On Sep 2, 2010, at 10:45 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > All: > This will teach me to work on this Mac late! I accidentally deleted my > Apple folder from my Safari bookmarks. It isn't in the trash. How can I > get it back? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) > Pete Nalda > http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda > http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda > http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: how to get pictures off from my i phone useing a mac?
actually I can just launch image capture and grab the photos and vids that way with out syncing. It is a lot easer that way as iphoto shows a lot of empty scroll areas. lol! On Sep 3, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: > First, when your iphone is connected to the mac, in iTunes make sure sync > photos is checked. Then sync. Then the photos from the phone should show up > in iPhoto. > > On Sep 3, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Conrad Bennett wrote: > >> Hi i need to know how do i get pictures off from my iphone using a mac my >> iphone doesn't show up in the finder like it shood please help if you can >> thanks. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) > Pete Nalda > http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda > http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda > http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: how to get pictures off from my i phone useing a mac?
Hmm not familiar with image capture. I'm guessing that's in applications>utilities? On Sep 3, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > actually I can just launch image capture and grab the photos and vids that > way with out syncing. It is a lot easer that way as iphoto shows a lot of > empty scroll areas. lol! > On Sep 3, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: > >> First, when your iphone is connected to the mac, in iTunes make sure sync >> photos is checked. Then sync. Then the photos from the phone should show >> up in iPhoto. >> >> On Sep 3, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Conrad Bennett wrote: >> >>> Hi i need to know how do i get pictures off from my iphone using a mac my >>> iphone doesn't show up in the finder like it shood please help if you can >>> thanks. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) >> Pete Nalda >> http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda >> http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
my podcast
Hello everybody, I now have a podcast. To follow my podcast please go to www.jkenn337.podbean.com . My files are in mp3 and recorded at 64kbps 44khz mono recorded on the aph braille plus notetaker. I am writing this because I plan on doing a whole series about vinux in the ner future. I may even get a paid account for more bandwidth but we'll see how my free account goes first. again my podcasts are at www.jkenn337.podbean.com . Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com Josh Kennedy jkenn...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: how to get pictures off from my i phone useing a mac?
I think so let me check Nope it's under application. Good luck.. On Sep 3, 2010, at 6:35 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: > Hmm not familiar with image capture. I'm guessing that's in > applications>utilities? > > On Sep 3, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> actually I can just launch image capture and grab the photos and vids that >> way with out syncing. It is a lot easer that way as iphoto shows a lot of >> empty scroll areas. lol! >> On Sep 3, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: >> >>> First, when your iphone is connected to the mac, in iTunes make sure sync >>> photos is checked. Then sync. Then the photos from the phone should show >>> up in iPhoto. >>> >>> On Sep 3, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Conrad Bennett wrote: >>> Hi i need to know how do i get pictures off from my iphone using a mac my iphone doesn't show up in the finder like it shood please help if you can thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) >>> Pete Nalda >>> http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda >>> http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda >>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) > Pete Nalda > http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda > http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda > http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Funny Issue with Mail
Hey, I've been experiencing a strange issue when using Apple Mail to send messages. I've been sending them with no problems that I knew of until I sent some messages to a new address I hadn't sent to before. According to Mail, the message was sent, but was never received by the person I sent it to. I asked him to check the spam folder as well, but he had no luck finding it there either. When I sent him the same message from GMail.com, he got it. I'm a little worried about this, cause I don't know how many other times this has occurred. Does anyone have any ideas on why this might be happening? Thanks, Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: how to get pictures off from my i phone useing a mac?
Ok. sounds like a good alternative to iPhoto. Glad to know it's there. On Sep 3, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I think so let me check > > Nope it's under application. > > Good luck.. > On Sep 3, 2010, at 6:35 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: > >> Hmm not familiar with image capture. I'm guessing that's in >> applications>utilities? >> >> On Sep 3, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> actually I can just launch image capture and grab the photos and vids that >>> way with out syncing. It is a lot easer that way as iphoto shows a lot of >>> empty scroll areas. lol! >>> On Sep 3, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: >>> First, when your iphone is connected to the mac, in iTunes make sure sync photos is checked. Then sync. Then the photos from the phone should show up in iPhoto. On Sep 3, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Conrad Bennett wrote: > Hi i need to know how do i get pictures off from my iphone using a mac my > iphone doesn't show up in the finder like it shood please help if you can > thanks. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) >> Pete Nalda >> http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda >> http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Funny Issue with Mail
Hi, That happens to me too with two addresses in particular, but when I send it through AOL, they get it okay. I don't know the reason though. Courtney Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info On Sep 3, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Justin Kauflin wrote: > Hey, > I've been experiencing a strange issue when using Apple Mail to send > messages. I've been sending them with no problems that I knew of until I > sent some messages to a new address I hadn't sent to before. According to > Mail, the message was sent, but was never received by the person I sent it > to. I asked him to check the spam folder as well, but he had no luck finding > it there either. When I sent him the same message from GMail.com, he got it. > I'm a little worried about this, cause I don't know how many other times > this has occurred. > Does anyone have any ideas on why this might be happening? > > Thanks, > Justin > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
a few new mac questions
hay all: ok, allow me to demonstrate my being a newby once again with a few questions, going to the mac store tomorrow! 1: I have like 200 contacts, all in thunderbird, how on earth do I get those over the mac? I'll google for this if need be but if any of you have a quick way to do it let me know, that would be great! 2: what is this webkit/safari thing? which one do I want and is one better than the other? 3: what is the link to the australian mac podcasts? I'm listening to the blindcoltech ones as we speak. 4: As I'm getting a macbook pro, I read something about changing the keys so that fn does something different or responds to software rather than hardware or something? How is this done and exactly what is it lol? thanks MJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MS Word's lack of access with VO
Many of us have to use Windows and Windows screen readers at work. It is not as if one can march into the bosses office and say, "We need to switch to the Mac, because Apple's philosophy concerning universal access is the way to go!" No, unfortunately, this is not the way things work. I do not find Word to be difficult to use at all, and if I did, I would be hard pressed to keep my job. Yes, I have a Mac, and I'm downloading videos with it as we speak, but you can't throw out the baby with the bath water unless you happen to be either self employed or unemployed. - Original Message - From: "carlene knight" To: Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 12:33 PM Subject: Re: MS Word's lack of access with VO Hi: I use Word at work and I can tell you that it has some bugs like trying to overlap things I need to see that I find downright annoying. I wouldn't want TextEdit to do that, nor would I want the Mac OS and windows platforms to become too intermingled or we would just be inherrriting the problems that we are trying to avoid by switching to OS10 in the first place. Just my thoughts. On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:10 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I contacted MS about this on there feedback forum in 2007 but I have since > lost the link and there have been no results as far as I'm aware. I don't > use word anymore on windows or mac so I would not be able to say yes or > no that it is or is not accessible. > Sarah Alawami > MSN: marri...@gmail.com > aim: marri...@gmail.com: > > website: http://music.marrie.org > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/ > > On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:03 AM, cathyk wrote: > >> Dear List, >> I've been struck by how willing we are to accept the fact that VO >> doesn't work natively with MS Word. At one level all the work-arounds >> show just how flexible, enterprising, and creative we are; every >> employer should be eager to hire anyone with such spark and, yes, >> ability. But am I the only one who fluctuates between sadness and >> outright anger that a program like MS Word, so standard in every >> single thing related to word processing, isn't accessible from the get- >> go? Every work-around means time and energy taken away from the main >> task at hand, whatever it is we're hoping to do. Each conversion on >> its own is just a few seconds here and there. But these seconds add >> up, plus they leave us open to unnecessary mistakes, which reflect >> badly on our capabilities. >> >> I know some people on this list have been trying to change this. I >> propose we band together, and really push for this to happen >> collectively. We can certainly make it more public that despite all >> the claims for accessibility, VO doesn't work with a MAJOR program. I >> frankly don't care whether the fault lies with Apple or Microsoft - >> they need to be made to play together, just as they surely have on >> other matters. As an added incentive, I know that lots more sighted >> people are warming to the idea of having long documents read to them, >> which means that this improvement would have broader benefits and >> could even be a marketing tool for Apple to tout its screen reader as >> an interesting technology for all. >> >> Please excuse this rant, but it's been building up; I just can't >> understand why we're so willing to accept the status quo when the >> thing that excited so many of us about the Mac was finally being part >> of mainstream technology. >> >> In solidarity, >> cathyk >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit t
iTune questions, sort of
Hello: I am download the PBS series on the Civil war on my Mac Book. My question is, when I sink my iPhone, is there a way to put only one of the 9 episodes on my phone? And, now for my second question. I'm curious as to whether or not anyone has heard of software that can extract the audio from iTunes video file, and if so, how much might it cost, and is it accessible with VoiceOver. I know, an odd question, since no sighted person would probably ever have a reason to do this. Thanks in advance for any assistance you might render. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iTune questions, sort of
lol. You might try mpegstreamclip for that little second task and if you check the manage music manually under your iphone settings scrol area, you can paste just that 1 ep on to the iphone icon in your playlist. S On Sep 3, 2010, at 8:16 PM, Rich Ring wrote: > Hello: > I am download the PBS series on the Civil war on my Mac Book. My question > is, when I sink my iPhone, is there a way to put only one of the 9 episodes > on my phone? And, now for my second question. I'm curious as to whether or > not anyone has heard of software that can extract the audio from iTunes > video file, and if so, how much might it cost, and is it accessible with > VoiceOver. I know, an odd question, since no sighted person would probably > ever have a reason to do this. Thanks in advance for any assistance you > might render. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: joining the mac squad.
Ian, I've had the mac for over a year now. Got it when I lived in Mass s you may recall. I love it! On Sep 3, 2010, at 6:44 PM, ian mcnamara wrote: > getting an eye mac but don't know exactly which one i am getting yet. > > ian mcnamara. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a few new mac questions
Ok, I can definitely answer your first two questions. 1. I don't remember T¬bird in detail, but you should be able to go to an export option and save the address book as a .csv (comma separated values text file). That option should be in the file menu. If it isn't there, it may be in the options area. Then you can do the counterpart import feature in Apple Mail. I think every mail applicaton known to man can handle .csv files. 2. Webkit is the stuff under the hood in Safari. It's what the developers are working on constantly with nightly builds. In my experience, it is a little more stable than Safari at this stage. Someone else can probably give more specifics about this. I hope this helps some. Teresa On Sep 3, 2010, at 6:43 PM, Matthew Johnson wrote: > hay all: > > ok, allow me to demonstrate my being a newby once again with a few questions, > going to the mac store tomorrow! > > 1: I have like 200 contacts, all in thunderbird, how on earth do I get those > over the mac? I'll google for this if need be but if any of you have a quick > way to do it let me know, that would be great! > 2: what is this webkit/safari thing? which one do I want and is one better > than the other? > 3: what is the link to the australian mac podcasts? I'm listening to the > blindcoltech ones as we speak. > 4: As I'm getting a macbook pro, I read something about changing the keys so > that fn does something different or responds to software rather than hardware > or something? How is this done and exactly what is it lol? > > thanks > MJ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: joining the mac squad.
For me the mac and the apple products have been very good. I'm still learning though so I can't help you that much. *grins* but you will get used to it if you use it in everyday situations. Take care. On Sep 3, 2010, at 21:57, Chantel Cuddemi wrote: > Ian, I've had the mac for over a year now. Got it when I lived in Mass s you > may recall. I love it! > On Sep 3, 2010, at 6:44 PM, ian mcnamara wrote: > >> getting an eye mac but don't know exactly which one i am getting yet. >> >> ian mcnamara. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a few new mac questions
If I remember correctly, the fn thing is under keyboard under system prefs. I don't exactly remember where as I made the change about 6 months ago. lol! On Sep 3, 2010, at 21:55, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Ok, I can definitely answer your first two questions. > > 1. I don't remember T¬bird in detail, but you should be able to go to an > export option and save the address book as a .csv (comma separated values > text file). That option should be in the file menu. If it isn't there, it may > be in the options area. Then you can do the counterpart import feature in > Apple Mail. I think every mail applicaton known to man can handle .csv files. > > 2. Webkit is the stuff under the hood in Safari. It's what the developers are > working on constantly with nightly builds. In my experience, it is a little > more stable than Safari at this stage. Someone else can probably give more > specifics about this. > > I hope this helps some. > > Teresa > On Sep 3, 2010, at 6:43 PM, Matthew Johnson wrote: > >> hay all: >> >> ok, allow me to demonstrate my being a newby once again with a few >> questions, going to the mac store tomorrow! >> >> 1: I have like 200 contacts, all in thunderbird, how on earth do I get those >> over the mac? I'll google for this if need be but if any of you have a quick >> way to do it let me know, that would be great! >> 2: what is this webkit/safari thing? which one do I want and is one better >> than the other? >> 3: what is the link to the australian mac podcasts? I'm listening to the >> blindcoltech ones as we speak. >> 4: As I'm getting a macbook pro, I read something about changing the keys so >> that fn does something different or responds to software rather than >> hardware or something? How is this done and exactly what is it lol? >> >> thanks >> MJ >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
itunes and a lot of mp3 files
Hi list, I am trying to find my way around itunes but I can't get done what seems so easy. Many books over here are being sold right out of the normal book stores. If you buy one, you get a bunch of normal audio CDs. No copy protection. Any one can buy audio books in this form. More and more books are becoming available this way here. On each CD, you have between 10 and 15 audio tracks on each disk. I ripped all of them to mp3 files and then organized all files per book, so that I now have 001.mp3, 002.mp3, 003.mp3 up til, sometimes, 579.mp3. So if a book consists of 10 CD disks with 10 tracks per CD, I then would have 1 renumbered collection consisting of 001.mp3 up till 100.mp3. What I want, is put this on my iphone, so that I can listen to my book anywhere. To make that happen, I need to import all numbered mp3 files that together make up one book, into itunes. I've been trying this the past few days, but I don't succeed. I start up itunes, go into the file menu and chose add to library. I then browse to the folder containing the numbered mp3 files I want to add and then V o space on the choose button. Itunes then imports them, but it organizes it according to the mp3 tags, which are either incorrect or missing, as I never cared about them in my windows life. I have everything organized by filename, in a large folder structure. In short: given a large collection of nicely numbered mp3 files, how do I get them into itunes, and then to my iphone, so that they play in order? Paul. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: downloading/reading bookshare books
Hi Mike Arrigo, This makes me wonder. Do you know of a program for the mac that lets you create rar files? - Original Message - From: "Mike Arrigo" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 1:21 AM Subject: Re: downloading/reading bookshare books For some reason, the built in archive utility does not support password protected zip files. Do a search for a program called the unarchiver. It will handle these kinds of files. After extracting the files, you can copy the book to a device, or open the xml file in your browser. On Aug 29, 2010, at 10:35 PM, John D. Lipsey wrote: Hi all, I just tried to grab a book from bookshare.org using webkit. The zip file downloaded just fine, but I can't seem to get a password prompt when I go to unzip the file. It just tells me that it failed to extract. Also, when I used windows I would just open the .xml file from daisy books in IE and read them that way. Can I open them with webkit/safari and read them the same way? Thanks in advance for any assistance in this matter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: safari bookmarks
Hi Esther, Ricardo, This is wonderful, as always. Thank you so much. This has been a pain since I got my mac a year ago. All is clear now. Paul. - Original Message - From: Esther To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 12:48 PM Subject: Re: safari bookmarks Hi Paul, Ricardo has given you the quick answer to using bookmarks. You can read a more detailed description about general navigation of your bookmarks in my archived post: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg21962.html (Re: moving and deleting bookmarks) I'll just briefly remark here that there is a general page for your bookmarks that you access with Command-Option-B, which is the shortcut for the "Show All Bookmarks" entry in Safari's Bookmarks menu. You'll greatly simplify your navigation of that page, and improve your understanding of its organization if you first hide your toolbar, bookmarks bar, and tab bar -- all options that toggle between show and hide with shortcuts listed in the View Menu on the menu bar (Command-Shift-Backslash, Command-Shift-B, Command-Shift-T). At that point, after you interact with the scroll area, pressing tab will move you between three areas: a table of different collections of bookmarks such as your navigation history, your Bookmarks Bar, your Bookmarks Menu, and any folders you may have created to organize your bookmarks on this page; a search text field that you can also move to directly with Command-F, and a table listing individual bookmarks in your selected bookmark collection by bookmark name and address. The general action will be to interact with the table of collections and select a bookmark collection or folder and then to tab to the table listing the individual bookmark entries and interact, then navigate to the bookmark of interest and activate it by pressing space bar. You can also reduce the list of entries to navigate through in that second table by using the search field to type in Bookmark names or parts of bookmark names, and then only matching entries will be shown in the second table. The usual navigation options of typing the first few letters in the name of a bookmark to move to it and/or using your up and down arrow keys will work here. There are also context menu options for editing bookmark name or address, copying or deleting, etc. As Ricardo mentioned, the first nine bookmarks saved to the Bookmarks Bar on your Bookmarks page have the special property that they can be launched by pressing the Command key together with the number of the bookmark. (You can hide your bookmarks bar and still activate the first nine bookmarks by pressing Command and the number from 1 to 9 for the bookmark you want.) However, note that whenever you save a new bookmark to the Bookmarks Bar, it becomes bookmark number 1, and displaces the previous first bookmark, which is now number 2, etc. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Aug 30, 2010, at 23:33, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, You can press command D to bring up the bookmark dialog. From here you can select to save the page to the bookmarks menu or, the booksmarks bar. The bar allows you to press command plus a corresponding number to bring up the site. hth Sent from my iPhone On Aug 31, 2010, at 4:53 AM, "Paul Erkens" wrote: Hi list, What is the simplest way of setting a bookmark for a page that you want to return to later on? Once set, how do you find your list of bookmarks and activate one? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
