Re: the unix shell and mac terminal
Hi Josh, Dave, Karen, Scott, and Others, If you want a good place to start learning about using the terminal and types of commands that you might issue from Terminal, I'd recommend "Take Control of the Mac Command Line with Terminal" by Joe Kissell: http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/command-line The Take Control series are very well written, and some of the books, like this one, contain material that I've never found presented in quite the same way (or sometimes, at all) anywhere else. They're available as downloadable PDF files that you can easily read in Preview, and any information presented in figures is well described in the text. Any minor version updates are available as free downloadable updates, and if there's a major version update you'll probably be offered a discount for the update. List prices are typically either $10 or $15. They also now supply free ePub versions for reading on the iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch, and all their books are DRM-free. This book is a good introduction to the Mac's flavor of unix, basic concepts behind commands, the shell, and syntax, what sort of things the bash shell will let you do, as well as the instances in which you might want to use the terminal. Scott's already found out about perl, python, zsh, and figured out that gcc is not in the default setup (but is it's available in the developer's toolkit, either from your startup disk or from the web). There's a Bookshare volume, "Mac OS X for Unix Geeks (Leopard)" by Rothman, Jepson, and Rosen. I don't think there's a Snow Leopard version out yet. In answer to Scott's question in another thread, you can run Xwindows on a Mac, but it isn't accessible to VoiceOver, since it's meant to be a graphical interface that runs programs on the remote machine, and displays the results (often graphs, or plots) on your machine through the Xwindow. You'd have to set up your terminal as an xterm, and then use a command like: ssh -X sc...@his_computer to log into the remote machine. I suppose you could screen capture the Xwindows output and OCR it if it's text, but it really would require extra work. Just as an example, the Open Office effort to provide another alternative to MicroSoft Office products, if you don't want to purchase Apple's iWorks, has two versions of their software for the Mac. One is written for Xwindows. The version that VoiceOver users would use is built on the Aqua Interface to display the results. Another comment: shell scripting can also easily be brought to the GUI. Your Mac has an application called "Automator" that's meant to be a way for the general user to put together workflows of frequently executed actions without having to learn about shell scripting, programming, or writing AppleScripts. One of the actions is "run shell script". Simply drop your shell script into that action, and you can run the script from the GUI. You can even make it part of a Finder menu or assign it a shortcut key. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Aug 28, 2010, at 09:15, Scott Granados wrote: Yes, you have telnet, ssh, ftp and all the standard clients you'd expect. I'm sure you could enable daemons to accept connections as well although consider the security implications of doing that please.:) On Aug 28, 2010, at 5:58 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote: excuse my nose here, but in theory would that let you say tellnet to a site or service that itself is shell associated? sorry if I am over guessing what one might do with that sort of bash. still I would think you could run programs that way? Karen On Sat, 28 Aug 2010, Dave Taylor wrote: I don't know anything about this side of using a Mac at all. Is there a good place to learn about it, right from scratch? I'll probably hardly need it, but would certainly like to know just in case. Cheers Dave -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 10:36 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: the unix shell and mac terminal Hi Over the past few weeks I have been running vinux 3.0 lucid in a virtual machine and have been playing with it. And then recently I went into the terminal on my mac in snow leopard and typed some commands and surprisingly I find that most of the commands I can perform in vinux I can also do with the terminal or the mac's unix shell. It's really cool. The only difference I can see in the mac is that it uses the darwin kernel while vinux uses the linux kernel. Oh and guys if you go into a terminal in your mac and type: man ls you can even read the unix man pages there. The only thing that doesn't work is apt-get command. I'm not sure if dpkg works or not, I haven't tried it. I'll try right now. Well guys dpkg also does not work. The mac's shell reminds me very much of vinux 3.0 lucid though. If you type uname -
Re: the unix shell and mac terminal
Actually I just googled debian vmware and appliance. I can't remember the name of the image, but that should get you something. After getting the image and booting it I had to ssh to it from my MAC terminal and update it to sid, then install speakup. It was fairly painless. I suppose that if there is enough interest I could put together a generic version of my image with speakup installed and make it available to the public. Keith On Aug 29, 2010, at 2:01 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > Do you have a pointer to a good image? > > On Aug 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Keith Watson wrote: > >> All well and good to have these tools available on the MAC. The only problem >> is that VO access to the terminal is cumbersome at best. My solution to this >> is to run a Debian VM and use speakup. Much better access to it's term >> there, and if I need to do anything on my MAC i just ssh over and take care >> of it that way. >> >> Just my 2 cents. >> >> Keith >> >> >> On Aug 28, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote: >> >>> Yes, you have telnet, ssh, ftp and all the standard clients you'd expect. >>> I'm sure you could enable daemons to accept connections as well although >>> consider the security implications of doing that please.:) >>> >>> >>> On Aug 28, 2010, at 5:58 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>> excuse my nose here, but in theory would that let you say tellnet to a site or service that itself is shell associated? sorry if I am over guessing what one might do with that sort of bash. still I would think you could run programs that way? Karen On Sat, 28 Aug 2010, Dave Taylor wrote: > I don't know anything about this side of using a Mac at all. Is there a > good > place to learn about it, right from scratch? I'll probably hardly need it, > but would certainly like to know just in case. > > Cheers > Dave > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 10:36 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: the unix shell and mac terminal > > Hi > Over the past few weeks I have been running vinux 3.0 lucid in a virtual > machine and have been playing with it. And then recently I went into the > terminal on my mac in snow leopard and typed some commands and > surprisingly > I find that most of the commands I can perform in vinux I can also do with > the terminal or the mac's unix shell. It's really cool. The only > difference > I can see in the mac is that it uses the darwin kernel while vinux uses > the > linux kernel. Oh and guys if you go into a terminal in your mac and type: > man ls > you can even read the unix man pages there. The only thing that doesn't > work > is apt-get command. I'm not sure if dpkg works or not, I haven't tried it. > I'll try right now. Well guys dpkg also does not work. The mac's shell > reminds me very much of vinux 3.0 lucid though. > If you type > uname -a > it will tell you the kernel version among other things. > If you type: > man ls > it will bring up the man page for the ls list directory command. to quit > the > man pages just press the letter q,. To close terminal hit command q. You > can > even hit tab and it will autocomplete commands for you. I imagine the unix > shell is very powerful, even on the mac. And I'm glad mac uses the bash > shell. Vinux uses it too. I doubt voxin would work on the mac since voxin > I > think is compiled for the linux kernel and not the darwin version10 > kernel. > > Josh Kennedy > jkenn...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this gro
Re: Droids and Macs
It does, with two major drawbacks. there is no way to read text line by line, and there is no way to arrow around in your message if you need to correct a typo. You can move around, but Talkback won't tell you where you are. Donna On Aug 29, 2010, at 12:53 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: > Hi, Question for you Droid Users. Does talkback read text messages and read > your typing them? I know it reads emails, calender, and contacts. Thanks in > Advance. I'm wondering about Android more and more, as I can get a Kyocera > Android Phone on Kricket without a contract, and a decent monthly plan. That > or get a droid through Verizon on my Moms plan. > > > On Aug 28, 2010, at 11:28 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> I got it on the Mac, I kind of put my hand on the Touch screen and slid, and >> it said press Ok to mount as disc, so that's what I did and it worked. I put >> some of my music on there and it's great. >> Courtney >> >> Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on Fridays >> at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info >> >> On Aug 29, 2010, at 12:26 AM, Joel Zimba wrote: >> >>> I know the original android phone from TMobile showed up as a disk on my >>> mac. I wouldn't know about current models, but I'd be shocked if it didn't >>> work that way. >>> Joel >>> > > > > Depending on just what you want to be syncing, you could do it wirelessly > through google. > sync your mac with google and your phone with google although that > sort of happens automatically because there is a google account connected > to the android phone.? I think? > > if not, then setting it to also sync to google by all rights ought to > work flawlessly. > > I do this with all of my phones pdas and my computer. I only sync for > backup purposes and to cram more books on the iphone. > > Joel > > On Aug 27, 2010, at 10:57 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> I just got a Droid today, the LG Ally, in fact. Will that sync with my >> Mac? If so, how do I go about this process? >> Thanks In Advance, >> Courtney >> >> Listen to The Wonderful World of Doo-wop with me, Moopie Curran on >> Fridays at 08:00 UTC on http://www.theglobalvoice.info >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) > Pete Nalda > http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda > http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda > http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Go
Re: Multiple recipients in "to:" field?
Hi Michael, I simply press the return key after either entering the complete address (if new) or after the voiced address if it's known to Mail. Pressing return automatically lets Mail know that you wish to enter a new recipient without the need of a comma or semi-colon. This will work in all address fields. If you move out of the "To" field and then wish to add an address at the end of the list, simply navigate back to the "To" field, interact with it, navigate to the end of the addresses, then type in the new address. As long as you've done this, the existing addresses will not be removed and your new address will be appended to the list. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On 2010-08-28, at 12:04 PM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Can someone please tell me the best way to insert multiple recipients in the > To: CC: or BCC fields of an e-mail message I wish to send? Is each address > separated by a Comma, Semicolon or what? Sometimes, the e-mail address I > want is voiced after just typing a couple of letters. But what is the best > way to acknowledge that the address I hear is the right one, move past it and > insert the next address? > > Does all of this make sense? > > On a similar note, is there a "Take Command" book for Mail running under Snow > Leopard or might there be other materials addressing this topic? > > Thank you, > > Mike > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: the unix shell and mac terminal
Did you have to recompile the kernel to install Speakup? For some reason, I thought that Speakup wasn't available as Debian packages. On Aug 29, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Keith Watson wrote: > Actually I just googled debian vmware and appliance. I can't remember the > name of the image, but that should get you something. After getting the image > and booting it I had to ssh to it from my MAC terminal and update it to sid, > then install speakup. It was fairly painless. > > I suppose that if there is enough interest I could put together a generic > version of my image with speakup installed and make it available to the > public. > > Keith > On Aug 29, 2010, at 2:01 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > >> Do you have a pointer to a good image? >> >> On Aug 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Keith Watson wrote: >> >>> All well and good to have these tools available on the MAC. The only >>> problem is that VO access to the terminal is cumbersome at best. My >>> solution to this is to run a Debian VM and use speakup. Much better access >>> to it's term there, and if I need to do anything on my MAC i just ssh over >>> and take care of it that way. >>> >>> Just my 2 cents. >>> >>> Keith >>> >>> >>> On Aug 28, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote: >>> Yes, you have telnet, ssh, ftp and all the standard clients you'd expect. I'm sure you could enable daemons to accept connections as well although consider the security implications of doing that please.:) On Aug 28, 2010, at 5:58 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > excuse my nose here, but in theory would that let you say tellnet to a > site or service that itself is shell associated? > sorry if I am over guessing what one might do with that sort of bash. > still I would think you could run programs that way? > Karen > > On Sat, 28 Aug 2010, Dave Taylor wrote: > >> I don't know anything about this side of using a Mac at all. Is there a >> good >> place to learn about it, right from scratch? I'll probably hardly need >> it, >> but would certainly like to know just in case. >> >> Cheers >> Dave >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy >> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 10:36 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: the unix shell and mac terminal >> >> Hi >> Over the past few weeks I have been running vinux 3.0 lucid in a virtual >> machine and have been playing with it. And then recently I went into the >> terminal on my mac in snow leopard and typed some commands and >> surprisingly >> I find that most of the commands I can perform in vinux I can also do >> with >> the terminal or the mac's unix shell. It's really cool. The only >> difference >> I can see in the mac is that it uses the darwin kernel while vinux uses >> the >> linux kernel. Oh and guys if you go into a terminal in your mac and type: >> man ls >> you can even read the unix man pages there. The only thing that doesn't >> work >> is apt-get command. I'm not sure if dpkg works or not, I haven't tried >> it. >> I'll try right now. Well guys dpkg also does not work. The mac's shell >> reminds me very much of vinux 3.0 lucid though. >> If you type >> uname -a >> it will tell you the kernel version among other things. >> If you type: >> man ls >> it will bring up the man page for the ls list directory command. to quit >> the >> man pages just press the letter q,. To close terminal hit command q. You >> can >> even hit tab and it will autocomplete commands for you. I imagine the >> unix >> shell is very powerful, even on the mac. And I'm glad mac uses the bash >> shell. Vinux uses it too. I doubt voxin would work on the mac since >> voxin I >> think is compiled for the linux kernel and not the darwin version10 >> kernel. >> >> Josh Kennedy >> jkenn...@gmail.com >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>
Re: Keyboard issues with fusion, suggestions?
I have a Mac Book Pro. No USB keyboard. Follow the instructions in the post if you can, start the sharp key program in your virtual machine. Remember to unzip it first. Then there is the first list where you select the key to change. i.e. the grave key. Then in the next column which you select by tabbing, find the special caps lock key. then write it to registry. Then go through the list of keys in the post doing the same thing which I have exampled, always remembering that the first column list of keys is the keys you select whilst the second list is what you'd like the key to be. When you have done and written all the changes to the registry, restart the virtual machine and you should have an windows key, an alt key and so on. Just remember that the left alt key will only work if there is something to open like for my instance, windows mobile centre, or a page to close like the internet and then you can use the left alt key. Not sure why everything works like that in my instance but I have the Mac Book Pro which I bought from the USA. If you still have problems, add me to your Skype and we can chat and I'll be happy to help you with it. It took me a while to work it all out as it was new to me. Skype ID is kawalgucukoglu but I'm no wizard on the Mac yet! Kawal. On 28 Aug 2010, at 23:34, Kimberly thurman wrote: > Kawal, do you use a USB keyboard with the MBP, JAWS and Fusion, or do you > just use the MBP? Will these adjustments in Sharp Keys give the Macbook > Pro's keyboard an insert key and cause the windows keys and alt keys to > change position? Sorry to be so dense, but I'm really having trouble getting > my head around this. Win 7 does work great under Fusion though, but an > insert key and an applications key would be fantastic! > On Aug 28, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> Hi Scott and all those who have problems with insert key with JFW. >> >> I saved a post which helped me enormously and I hope that Marshall will not >> mind me sending it. I just hope I got your name right. >> >> Kawal. >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> Hi, Here are my Sharpkes mappings Grave to Special Caps Lock Left Alt to Left Windows Left Windows to Left Alt Right Windows to Applications After I get these keys remapped I switch to the Laptop layout in JAWS. This seems to solve the JAWS/Insert Key problem. It also fixes the "reversal" of the Windows and Alt Keys. Note that the Keypad layout on the Mac is different from the keypad layout on a Windows machine. Things like the Route PC to JAWS and Route JAWS to PC are in different locations on the Mac keyboard but you can learn the new locations by using JAWS keyboard help. As far as the sound goes, I Launch the VIrtual Machine and then turn off Voiceover. After I login to the Windows machine, I press Control-Command to move to the Mac and turn Voiceover back on. I then use Command-G to return to the Windows machine. I can then switch back and forth by using Control-Command and Command-G. I hope this helps. >>> >>> Marshall >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> >> Kawal Gucukoglu >> (E-mail/MSN): >> >> kawal_gucuko...@sent.com >> >> (Skype ID): >> >> kawalgucukoglu >> >> (Mobile/text): >> >> +447905618396 >> >> +447576240421 >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Pandora buffering problem
Hi, I am attempting to use the free version of Pandora on the iPhone 4. When I first install it, it will play about 8 or 10 songs just fine and then stop buffering. At that point, there will be a pause in the music every few seconds. This only seems to happen over my wireless network. When using 3g, I don't seem to have the problem. I have tried both quality options and have completely uninstalled and reinstalled Pandora. It doesn't appear that my son, using the same wireless network, has the problem on the iPhone 3GS. All of my other streaming apps, XM online, OO Tunes, and so on all stream just fine on my iPhone 4 over my wireless network. My wireless network is an Apple Time Capsule. I am just wondering if any other iPhone 4 users have experienced problems with Pandora buffering? Thanks, Robert Carter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Renaming Folders?
Strange as it seems, I haven't had a reason to do this on the Mac yet but I noticed today there doesn't seem to be any way to rename a folder. This seems strange to me but does anyone know how to do this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Renaming Folders?
In Snow Leopard, I just press return on the folder name, type the new name and press return again, just like renaming a file. John On Aug 29, 2010, at 11:54 AM, David McLean wrote: > Strange as it seems, I haven't had a reason to do this on the Mac yet but I > noticed today there doesn't seem to be any way to rename a folder. This > seems strange to me but does anyone know how to do this? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: -- SPAM -- Re: Renaming Folders?
Thanks. I thought that was the case but for some reason the particular folder I'm trying to rename doesn't seem to allow that whereas normally it works. I think that is because I copied the folder from a cd volume. So I'm thinking the folder is read-only or something similar. I'll have to look into it a bit more. On Aug 29, 2010, at 12:02 PM, John Sanfilippo wrote: > In Snow Leopard, I just press return on the folder name, type the new name > and press return again, just like renaming a file. > > John > > > On Aug 29, 2010, at 11:54 AM, David McLean wrote: > >> Strange as it seems, I haven't had a reason to do this on the Mac yet but I >> noticed today there doesn't seem to be any way to rename a folder. This >> seems strange to me but does anyone know how to do this? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
How to put items in the doc
Hi I am trying to put items in the doc but I am not finding the keep in doc menu item. I am trying to add webkit this is on a new install of snow leopard on a mac minny. Thanks, Corey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Description of the Finder and how to best understand VO method of navigating on the screen
Jude DaShiell wrote: > What aApple refers to as elements or items are referred to as controls > in Windows, but usually only the more technical descriptions of windows > interfaces ever mention that term. Everyone both Microsoft and Apple > used the set of controls from universal computer interface design which > I.B.M. had a hand in originating before windows came into existence for > its own OS/2 operating system.On Sat, 28 Aug 2010, Alfredo wrote: > > > The following is a small tutorial on how to navigate with VO and > > description of the Finder. you can press command+2, to get the view > > set tot default. I do not think I wrote that information here. > > Please critic. Constructive criticism is welcome. > > Alfredo > > > > Being apple, the company created a new and ingenious way for a screen > > reader to read the information on the screen. Voice Over is a screen > > reader by all definitions but it is different in the form it access > > and navigates to information on the screen. To better understand how > > VO works, you have to understand the concept of elements. Elements, > > also refer to as items, are the different kinds of controls and > > objects VO and sighted users can access on any given screenor window. > > Elements are navigated to by pressing the VO keys in conjunction with > > any single key of the arrow keys, and include but are not limited to > > the following: > > ? Text, usually a description, label or title for another element. > > ? Buttons, activating these will perform an action as described by the > > button?s label. > > ? Checkbox, similar to a light switch, can either be toggled on or > > off, but not both. > > ? Radio button, think of this as a checkbox with multiple choices but > > only 1 can be selected. > > ? Text Field, equivalent to the Text box found on Windows, used to > > type in text. > > ? Pop Up Menu, equivalent to combo boxes found on Windows, used to > > select 1 or more options. > > ? List, equivalent to list boxes found on Windows, used to select 1 > > option from several. > > ? Menu bar, includes the persistent menu bar on top of your Mac screen > > and its submenus. > > ? Vertical Slider, is a slider that you can move right to increase or > > left to decrease it. > > ? Table, designates that the object is arrange in a column and row > > format. > > ? Tab, equivalent to tabs on Windows PC?s, allows for vieweing of > > different tabs inside a window. > > ? Toolbar, gives you access to elements inside a window?s toolbar. > > ? HTML content, used by windows that need to display web page content, > > such as web browsers. > > ? Scroll Area, designates an area that might have content that is not > > visible to the sighted user. > > ? Ruler, used on word processing applications, such as text edit, to > > set document features > > ? Group, designates a tree view structure-like area, where elements > > expand from other elements. > > Most elements can be ?interacted? with and some require that you > > ?interact? with them to gain access to them. ?interacting? with an > > element, with VO+Shift+Down-Arrow, allows you to take a closer look at > > that element and will give you access to functions or features of that > > element which are not available when not interacting with it. To > > resume normal navigation and stop interacting with an element you will > > have to press, VO+Shift+Up-Arrow. All Text elements can be interacted > > with so that you can read the text word by word, character by > > character or phonetically. On the other hand, in order to adjust a > > Vertical Slider element you have to first interact with it, then use > > the VO+Left-Arrow, VO+Shift+Left-Arrow, VO+Right-Arrow or VO+Shift > > +Right-Arrow to adjust it. Furthermore, elements can contain elements > > inside them which can be interacted with, creating a layer structure > > for interacting with elements. For example, a Table can be interacted > > with, and inside it there can reside elements of the Group or Text > > type which themselves can be interacted with. HTML content elements > > are the areas of web browsers where the web page is display and this > > element can contain many elements inside it, such as Tables, Text, > > Links, Pop Up buttons, Radio buttons, etc, which can be further > > interacted with. Most applicaitons such as the Safari web browser or > > Finder application have you interacting with the area of the window > > which it assumes you will be accessing most. For example, when Safari > > opens you are automatically place inside the HTML content area of the > > window. On the Finder you are automatically placed inside the Table > > List view when using List view or Image Browser aList when using Icon > > view since this is the element of the window you will be accessing > > most often. This is a convenient feature since it prevents you from > > having to interact with these frequently accessed areas everytime you >
Re: How to put items in the doc
Hi Corey! All you have to do is open webkit so it appears in the doc! Then when it is there scroll to it and press vo - shift - m to bring up that menu and then scroll to keep in doc and vo space bar from then on webkit will stay in the doc! hth Colin Skype focus_66 On 29 Aug 2010, at 19:07, Corey Knapp wrote: > Hi I am trying to put items in the doc but I am not finding the keep in doc > menu item. I am trying to add webkit this is on a new install of snow > leopard on a mac minny. > Thanks, > Corey > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Renaming Folders?
Hello just whack enter on the folder name, type what you want and hit enter. Same goes for file names. It will only highlight the file name not the extension in the file renaming case. Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com On Aug 29, 2010, at 8:54 AM, David McLean wrote: > Strange as it seems, I haven't had a reason to do this on the Mac yet but I > noticed today there doesn't seem to be any way to rename a folder. This > seems strange to me but does anyone know how to do this? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: -- SPAM -- Re: Renaming Folders?
That's odd. I rename folders I copy from dvd volumes and cd volumes all the time. I wonder if somehow you can change the state from read only to normal? Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: website: http://music.marrie.org youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com On Aug 29, 2010, at 9:38 AM, David McLean wrote: > Thanks. I thought that was the case but for some reason the particular folder > I'm trying to rename doesn't seem to allow that whereas normally it works. I > think that is because I copied the folder from a cd volume. So I'm thinking > the folder is read-only or something similar. I'll have to look into it a > bit more. > On Aug 29, 2010, at 12:02 PM, John Sanfilippo wrote: > >> In Snow Leopard, I just press return on the folder name, type the new name >> and press return again, just like renaming a file. >> >> John >> >> >> On Aug 29, 2010, at 11:54 AM, David McLean wrote: >> >>> Strange as it seems, I haven't had a reason to do this on the Mac yet but I >>> noticed today there doesn't seem to be any way to rename a folder. This >>> seems strange to me but does anyone know how to do this? >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
audio source button in airfoil has become nonresponsive
Hi all, My subject line pretty much says it all. I hadn't used this app in a while, but it is up to date; I just checked. I wanted to use it with Safari just now, something I've done a lot in the past. And I can't activate the audio source button. I vo space on it or use the magic track pad to try to activate it, and nothing happens. the affects button still works, and the transmit to various sources seems to work. At least, they show as active if they are pressed. but of course, with no audio source, nothing actually changes; there is no transmission. Has anybody experienced this problem? and if so, how did you fix it? Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: -- SPAM -- Re: -- SPAM -- Re: Renaming Folders?
permissions from read only to read/write. That allowed me to use the normal rename procedure, press enter and enter the new name. Strange problem.Ok what I determined for those who run into this problem, you need to go into the get info menu and open up the more information section and go down to the permissions table, activate it, and change the folder On Aug 29, 2010, at 4:08 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > That's odd. I rename folders I copy from dvd volumes and cd volumes all the > time. I wonder if somehow you can change the state from read only to normal? > Sarah Alawami > MSN: marri...@gmail.com > aim: marri...@gmail.com: > > website: http://music.marrie.org > youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 > Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com > > On Aug 29, 2010, at 9:38 AM, David McLean wrote: > >> Thanks. I thought that was the case but for some reason the particular >> folder I'm trying to rename doesn't seem to allow that whereas normally it >> works. I think that is because I copied the folder from a cd volume. So >> I'm thinking the folder is read-only or something similar. I'll have to >> look into it a bit more. >> On Aug 29, 2010, at 12:02 PM, John Sanfilippo wrote: >> >>> In Snow Leopard, I just press return on the folder name, type the new name >>> and press return again, just like renaming a file. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> On Aug 29, 2010, at 11:54 AM, David McLean wrote: >>> Strange as it seems, I haven't had a reason to do this on the Mac yet but I noticed today there doesn't seem to be any way to rename a folder. This seems strange to me but does anyone know how to do this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
further to the airfoil problem
I should note that airfoil still works if I use it with Itunes. I just tried that. Itunes must be set as the current audio source, and my inability to access the menuy of sources means I can't change it. I wonder if perhaps something is messed up with permissions in some way, such that airfoil doesn't think I have any other apps on my system that it could use. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Renaming Folders?
Sure. Just press the return key on the Mac. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! E-Mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net Skype Name: barefootedray On Aug 29, 2010, at 10:54 AM, David McLean wrote: Strange as it seems, I haven't had a reason to do this on the Mac yet but I noticed today there doesn't seem to be any way to rename a folder. This seems strange to me but does anyone know how to do this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: -- SPAM -- Re: -- SPAM -- Re: Renaming Folders?
Sorry for the garbled message folks. What I mean to say so below: For those who run into the problem in which a folder rename doesn't work, go to the get info menu, then arrow to the more info item and expand it, and go down to the permissions table, interact on it and change the permission to read/write. Mine was set to read-only for some reason. On Aug 29, 2010, at 4:31 PM, David McLean wrote: > permissions from read only to read/write. That allowed me to use the normal > rename procedure, press enter and enter the new name. > Strange problem.Ok what I determined for those who run into this problem, you > need to go into the get info menu and open up the more information section > and go down to the permissions table, activate it, and change the folder > On Aug 29, 2010, at 4:08 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> That's odd. I rename folders I copy from dvd volumes and cd volumes all the >> time. I wonder if somehow you can change the state from read only to normal? >> Sarah Alawami >> MSN: marri...@gmail.com >> aim: marri...@gmail.com: >> >> website: http://music.marrie.org >> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com >> >> On Aug 29, 2010, at 9:38 AM, David McLean wrote: >> >>> Thanks. I thought that was the case but for some reason the particular >>> folder I'm trying to rename doesn't seem to allow that whereas normally it >>> works. I think that is because I copied the folder from a cd volume. So >>> I'm thinking the folder is read-only or something similar. I'll have to >>> look into it a bit more. >>> On Aug 29, 2010, at 12:02 PM, John Sanfilippo wrote: >>> In Snow Leopard, I just press return on the folder name, type the new name and press return again, just like renaming a file. John On Aug 29, 2010, at 11:54 AM, David McLean wrote: > Strange as it seems, I haven't had a reason to do this on the Mac yet but > I noticed today there doesn't seem to be any way to rename a folder. > This seems strange to me but does anyone know how to do this? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: How to put items in the doc
Hi thanks that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of focus Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 2:51 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: focus Subject: Re: How to put items in the doc Hi Corey! All you have to do is open webkit so it appears in the doc! Then when it is there scroll to it and press vo - shift - m to bring up that menu and then scroll to keep in doc and vo space bar from then on webkit will stay in the doc! hth Colin Skype focus_66 On 29 Aug 2010, at 19:07, Corey Knapp wrote: > Hi I am trying to put items in the doc but I am not finding the keep > in doc menu item. I am trying to add webkit this is on a new install > of snow leopard on a mac minny. > Thanks, > Corey > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: windows screen readers
That's good to know. Thanks. Rafael From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados [scott.grana...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:58 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: windows screen readers It seems to work with VM Fusion. Mike demonstrates this on his podcast. (mac demo 5). On Aug 28, 2010, at 10:28 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote: > I use System Access and find it very user friendly, unlike Jaws. Moreover, > System Access is relatively inexpensive. I don't know if it works well with > VMWare, though. > > Rafael Bejarano > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Josh Kennedy [jkenn...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 5:31 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: windows screen readers > > Hi > > guys don't forget about NVDA and system access by serotek. > www.nvda-project.org and www.satogo.com . www.serotek.com . System access > works very good with office2007 and other software. NVDA is yet another good > option. > > Josh Kennedy > jkenn...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: audio source button in airfoil has become nonresponsive
Hi Mary. You need to do VO shift space on the sources button. This is the VO context menu command. It brings up a menu where you choose your source. If the app you want isn't listed, you can select other applications, which presents a dialog where you can choose from any app. HTH Darcy On 2010-08-29, at 3:30 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > Hi all, > My subject line pretty much says it all. I hadn't used this app in a while, > but it is up to date; I just checked. I wanted to use it with Safari just > now, something I've done a lot in the past. And I can't activate the audio > source button. I vo space on it or use the magic track pad to try to activate > it, and nothing happens. the affects button still works, and the transmit to > various sources seems to work. At least, they show as active if they are > pressed. but of course, with no audio source, nothing actually changes; there > is no transmission. Has anybody experienced this problem? and if so, how did > you fix it? > > Mary > > Mary Otten > motte...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Going back a page and searching for text using Safari.
Hi All. Been doing a bit of browsing today using You Tube. Before, I swear, I could use command left arrow or command right arrow to move forward or back a page. Is that so? If so, it's not working. Also you should be able to do command F to search for text on a web page (just like control F in jaws), but although the text is there, it's not working. If any of these commands are incorrect, please let me know although in the command F option, there is a done button when you have written what you are searching for, in a webpage but you have to know the site well as I have found the words when searching in windows which I use to do before I got my Mac Book Pro. Thanks for your help. Kawal. Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: audio source button in airfoil has become nonresponsive
Hi Darcy, vo shift space brings up the apple menu, not the audio source menu for me. audio source is a button, just like effects. Muscle memory wants to do vo space but its didn't work, so I did try vo shift space and it definitely brings up the apple manu, not the audio source menu that has my application choices in it. this use to work like a charm. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Going back a page and searching for text using Safari.
Kawal, In Safari, use Command+left bracket to go back. Or, use the delte key. To search with VO, use VO+F on the web page. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Going back a page and searching for text using Safari.
Thanks Kevin, much obliged. On 29 Aug 2010, at 23:17, Kevin Shaw wrote: > Kawal, > > In Safari, use Command+left bracket to go back. Or, use the delte key. > > To search with VO, use VO+F on the web page. Kevin > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > Kawal Gucukoglu (E-mail/MSN): kawal_gucuko...@sent.com (Skype ID): kawalgucukoglu (Mobile/text): +447905618396 +447576240421 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Rss app for ipad
Hi, Does anyone know a good rss reader for the ipad Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: bookshare books
Hi Rafaela, My name is Merlinda, and I am a sighted software developer located in Ottawa, Canada. I am also part of the InDaisy Reader software development team. I see that some of you are discussing how to use InDaisy Reader to read books from Bookshare. Here is just a short description on how to do so: For encrypted Daisy books from Bookshare, unzip the downloaded zip file with your password and then re-zip it again without any password. Use iTunes File Sharing to transfer your rezipped Daisy book into InDaisy Reader. For unencrypted Daisy books from Bookshare, the downloaded zip file can directly be transferred into InDaisy Reader using iTunes File Sharing. Please use VoiceOver to read out the text of the book. The auto-resume and navigation capability for text-only Daisy books, still needs to be improved. We will also add the speed adjustment and navigation by page features into future release of InDaisy Reader. Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions. Regards, - Merlinda On Aug 28, 1:21 am, Rafaela Freundt wrote: > i'll have to figure out how indaycy works and hope it helps. > talking about bookshare books, do you guys know if the only way to read them > on the mac is using safari? > thanks, > Rafaela > El 27/08/2010, a las 14:37, Sarah Alawami escribió: > > > > > OH nice! I hope htey come out wiht something. and let's hope RFBD is in the > > cueue next but I doubt it. > > On Aug 27, 2010, at 3:51 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > > >> There is Book Worm and InDaisy. I gather InDaisy supports the Daisy 3 > >> standard. Although apparently there is a possibility Book Share may be > >> doing something as well. COnsidering they recently conducted a survey > >> asking about such an app for various mobile platforms. > >> On Aug 27, 2010, at 6:43 AM, Justin Thornton wrote: > > >>> what is the new daisy player called for the iphone? > >>> On Aug 26, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > Oh no I was talking about another app on the iphone.that is a new one > only for now supports dasi 2. they said it would support 3 this month > but it has not happened yet. and you would have to get a key from RFBD > and NLS does not support any software. > > Take care. > Sarah Alawami > MSN: marri...@gmail.com > aim: marri...@gmail.com: > > website:http://music.marrie.org > youtube:http://youtube.com/marrie125 > Podcast:http://marrie.podbean.com > > On Aug 26, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > > > Sara, perhaps you need to check your facts before posting. InDaisy does > > support Daisy 2 and 3 at least for audio playback. > > > On Aug 25, 2010, at 9:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > > >> Nope. they are in dasi 3.0 while the dasi reader on the apps store > >> only supports dasi 2.0. Sorry to be the barrer of bad news but it is > >> what it is. > >> Sarah Alawami > >> MSN: marri...@gmail.com > >> aim: marri...@gmail.com: > > >> website:http://music.marrie.org > >> youtube:http://youtube.com/marrie125 > >> Podcast:http://marrie.podbean.com > > >> On Aug 25, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Rafaela Freundt wrote: > > >>> Hi list, > > >>> I was just wandering if it is possible to read bookshare books on the > >>> iPod touch. > >>> any suggestions are appreciated. > > >>> Thanks all, > > >>> Rafaela > > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> For more options, visit this group > >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group > >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more
Pandora on the Mac
Hi, I was wondering if there is any way that is accessible to use Pandora on the Mac? I can use it on my iPod and iPhone just fine, but I didn't know if there were any accessible ways of using it on the Mac side. Thanks for any help, Jeffrey -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pandora on the Mac
Hi Jeffrey, I don't think Pandora can be used on the Mac. If somebody has been able to do it, I want to know how. Its so flash-heavy. I did get a link to a pandora station sent to me by a friend on my Mac, and I can click that, and it plays fine. But I can't do anything useful on the site, I'm sorry to say. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pandora on the Mac
Hi Mary, I was able to get sighted assistance to login and get it to work on my mac. Now I just go to the sight and it begins to play. This is not much help, however it does answer the question that it does work on the mac. Later, Scott On Aug 29, 2010, at 9:28 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > Hi Jeffrey, > I don't think Pandora can be used on the Mac. If somebody has been able to do > it, I want to know how. Its so flash-heavy. I did get a link to a pandora > station sent to me by a friend on my Mac, and I can click that, and it plays > fine. But I can't do anything useful on the site, I'm sorry to say. > Mary Otten > motte...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: audio source button in airfoil has become nonresponsive
Hi Mary. Sorry that was my fault. I meant to say vo shift m. Not sure why I said space there. Darcy On 2010-08-29, at 5:16 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > Hi Darcy, > vo shift space brings up the apple menu, not the audio source menu for me. > audio source is a button, just like effects. Muscle memory wants to do vo > space but its didn't work, so I did try vo shift space and it definitely > brings up the apple manu, not the audio source menu that has my application > choices in it. this use to work like a charm. > > Mary > > Mary Otten > motte...@gmail.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Pandora on the Mac
Hi Scott, When you go to the Pandora site on your Mac, and something starts playing, can you make new stations etc? Or do you just have whatever station your sighted friend set up? I have this station link that opens and plays in pandora, but I haven't been able to do anything else once I'm in there. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
downloading/reading bookshare books
Hi all, I just tried to grab a book from bookshare.org using webkit. The zip file downloaded just fine, but I can't seem to get a password prompt when I go to unzip the file. It just tells me that it failed to extract. Also, when I used windows I would just open the .xml file from daisy books in IE and read them that way. Can I open them with webkit/safari and read them the same way? Thanks in advance for any assistance in this matter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: downloading/reading bookshare books
Hi John, I don't know if this has to do with it, but I unzip my files using unarchiver, a free software that unzips any kind of file. when I unzip the bookshare book it does give me the prompt for the password. and yes, you can open the xml file and you can read the book with safari. Hth, Rafaela El 29/08/2010, a las 22:35, John D. Lipsey escribió: > Hi all, > > I just tried to grab a book from bookshare.org using webkit. The zip file > downloaded just fine, but I can't seem to get a password prompt when I go to > unzip the file. It just tells me that it failed to extract. > > Also, when I used windows I would just open the .xml file from daisy books in > IE and read them that way. Can I open them with webkit/safari and read them > the same way? > > Thanks in advance for any assistance in this matter. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
disregard my last: re bookshare stuff
I figured it out. I had to extract the book using stuffit expander. All is good, now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: bookshare books
Hi Merlinda, thanks for your help. I actually figured this out yesterday. But I seem to be having a problem. sometimes when I use the voiceover gesture to read all, to read the book continuously, it does OK. but sometimes it takes me back to the content window and I can't read it like that. do you know what could be happening? Thanks a lot, Rafaela El 29/08/2010, a las 20:01, Merlinda escribió: > Hi Rafaela, > > My name is Merlinda, and I am a sighted software developer located in > Ottawa, Canada. I am also part of the InDaisy Reader software > development team. I see that some of you are discussing how to use > InDaisy Reader to read books from Bookshare. Here is just a short > description on how to do so: > > For encrypted Daisy books from Bookshare, unzip the downloaded zip > file with your password and then re-zip it again without any password. > Use iTunes File Sharing to transfer your rezipped Daisy book into > InDaisy Reader. > > For unencrypted Daisy books from Bookshare, the downloaded zip file > can directly be transferred into InDaisy Reader using iTunes File > Sharing. > > Please use VoiceOver to read out the text of the book. The auto-resume > and navigation capability > for text-only Daisy books, still needs to be improved. We will also > add the speed adjustment and navigation by page features into future > release of InDaisy Reader. > > Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions. > > Regards, > - Merlinda > > > On Aug 28, 1:21 am, Rafaela Freundt wrote: >> i'll have to figure out how indaycy works and hope it helps. >> talking about bookshare books, do you guys know if the only way to read them >> on the mac is using safari? >> thanks, >> Rafaela >> El 27/08/2010, a las 14:37, Sarah Alawami escribió: >> >> >> >>> OH nice! I hope htey come out wiht something. and let's hope RFBD is in the >>> cueue next but I doubt it. >>> On Aug 27, 2010, at 3:51 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >> There is Book Worm and InDaisy. I gather InDaisy supports the Daisy 3 standard. Although apparently there is a possibility Book Share may be doing something as well. COnsidering they recently conducted a survey asking about such an app for various mobile platforms. On Aug 27, 2010, at 6:43 AM, Justin Thornton wrote: >> > what is the new daisy player called for the iphone? > On Aug 26, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >> Oh no I was talking about another app on the iphone.that is a new one >> only for now supports dasi 2. they said it would support 3 this month >> but it has not happened yet. and you would have to get a key from RFBD >> and NLS does not support any software. >> >> Take care. >> Sarah Alawami >> MSN: marri...@gmail.com >> aim: marri...@gmail.com: >> >> website:http://music.marrie.org >> youtube:http://youtube.com/marrie125 >> Podcast:http://marrie.podbean.com >> >> On Aug 26, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> Sara, perhaps you need to check your facts before posting. InDaisy does >>> support Daisy 2 and 3 at least for audio playback. >> >>> On Aug 25, 2010, at 9:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> Nope. they are in dasi 3.0 while the dasi reader on the apps store only supports dasi 2.0. Sorry to be the barrer of bad news but it is what it is. Sarah Alawami MSN: marri...@gmail.com aim: marri...@gmail.com: >> website:http://music.marrie.org youtube:http://youtube.com/marrie125 Podcast:http://marrie.podbean.com >> On Aug 25, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Rafaela Freundt wrote: >> > Hi list, >> > I was just wandering if it is possible to read bookshare books on the > iPod touch. > any suggestions are appreciated. >> > Thanks all, >> > Rafaela >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe fr
RE: New Pages (iWork '09) support for creation of ePub documents
Hi esther, Thanks for that. I plugged my ipad in lastnight and ran the updates. So it should now be up to date with with both apps and os. Now I'm just waiting on my blueant q1 to arrive and I'll be able to use the ipad for skype. Chers -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Saturday, 28 August 2010 9:32 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New Pages (iWork '09) support for creation of ePub documents Simon, the update comes by way of Software Update. So, once you run Software Update, you will get this update along with any other updates and unless you have turned this off, it should notify you when updates are available. On Aug 28, 2010, at 1:54 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > So esther, > > If you own a copy of pages on your ipad, then you should get this up > date for free I'm assuming? > > Or is it a buy update situation? > > > Cheers > > Simon f > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther > Sent: Saturday, 28 August 2010 1:58 a.m. > To: viph...@googlegroups.com; macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: New Pages (iWork '09) support for creation of ePub documents > > Hi All, > > For Mac users of iWorks '09, especially those who are using iBooks to > read ePub documents on their iPhones, iPod Touches, and iPads, the > latest software update to Pages has added an option to export as ePub. > Further, Apple has issue a document outlining the best practices for > creating ePub files for reading in iBooks with Pages, which also links > to an "ePub Best Practices" sample document. > > The installer for the new feature will automatically show up if you > have iWorks '09 if you run Software Update. The link to the Apple > Support document on Creating ePub files with Pages is: > http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4168 > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
