Actually I just googled debian vmware and appliance. I can't remember the name 
of the image, but that should get you something. After getting the image and 
booting it I had to ssh to it from my MAC terminal and update it to sid, then 
install speakup. It was fairly painless.

I suppose that if there is enough interest I could put together a generic 
version of my image with speakup installed and make it available to the public.

Keith
On Aug 29, 2010, at 2:01 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

> Do you have a pointer to a good image?
> 
> On Aug 28, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Keith Watson wrote:
> 
>> All well and good to have these tools available on the MAC. The only problem 
>> is that VO access to the terminal is cumbersome at best. My solution to this 
>> is to run a Debian VM and use speakup. Much better access to it's term 
>> there, and if I need to do anything on my MAC i just ssh over and take care 
>> of it that way.
>> 
>> Just my 2 cents.
>> 
>> Keith
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 28, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, you have telnet, ssh, ftp and all the standard clients you'd expect.  
>>> I'm sure you could enable daemons to accept connections as well although 
>>> consider the security implications of doing that please.:)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 28, 2010, at 5:58 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>> 
>>>> excuse my nose here, but in theory would that let you say tellnet to a 
>>>> site or service that itself is shell associated?
>>>> sorry if I am over guessing what one might do with that sort of bash. 
>>>> still I would think you could run programs that way?
>>>> Karen
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, 28 Aug 2010, Dave Taylor wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I don't know anything about this side of using a Mac at all. Is there a 
>>>>> good
>>>>> place to learn about it, right from scratch? I'll probably hardly need it,
>>>>> but would certainly like to know just in case.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Dave
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 10:36 PM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: the unix shell and mac terminal
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> Over the past few weeks I have been running vinux 3.0 lucid in a virtual
>>>>> machine and have been playing with it. And then recently I went into the
>>>>> terminal on my mac in snow leopard and typed some commands and 
>>>>> surprisingly
>>>>> I find that most of the commands I can perform in vinux I can also do with
>>>>> the terminal or the mac's unix shell. It's really cool. The only 
>>>>> difference
>>>>> I can see in the mac is that it uses the darwin kernel while vinux uses 
>>>>> the
>>>>> linux kernel. Oh and guys if you go into a terminal in your mac and type:
>>>>> man ls
>>>>> you can even read the unix man pages there. The only thing that doesn't 
>>>>> work
>>>>> is apt-get command. I'm not sure if dpkg works or not, I haven't tried it.
>>>>> I'll try right now. Well guys dpkg also does not work. The mac's shell
>>>>> reminds me very much of vinux 3.0 lucid though.
>>>>> If you type
>>>>> uname -a
>>>>> it will tell you the kernel version among other things.
>>>>> If you type:
>>>>> man ls
>>>>> it will bring up the man page for the ls list directory command. to quit 
>>>>> the
>>>>> man pages just press the letter q,. To close terminal hit command q. You 
>>>>> can
>>>>> even hit tab and it will autocomplete commands for you. I imagine the unix
>>>>> shell is very powerful, even on the mac. And I'm glad mac uses the bash
>>>>> shell. Vinux uses it too. I doubt voxin would work on the mac since voxin 
>>>>> I
>>>>> think is compiled for the linux kernel and not the darwin version10 
>>>>> kernel.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Josh Kennedy
>>>>> jkenn...@gmail.com
>>>>> 
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