RE: Israeli spammers (Was: goldfish spamming)

2001-05-17 Thread Boaz Rymland

Hi!

There's some comfort hearing you're not the only one in this... :-)

I also got spammed from FixFax a few days ago. As a persistent user of
SpamCop (http://spamcop.net)  I reported it and got the following reply.
Since I'm not an expert on mail routings, settings, etc' , nor o I have the
resources to get into this now, I simply settled in calling the actual
spammer - FixFax. The man on the other line was polite but seems ready for
such phone calls.

guys - check this reply I got after sending my spamcop report:

==

>From an investigation of your report it appears that the mail was sent by
accessing 
the Internet using an anonymous dial-up access provided via Bezeq, The
Israel 
Telecommunications Corp. Ltd. This service, provided by Bezeq, allows the
user to 
choose between a selection of licensed ISPs, who are under contract to Bezeq
for this 
facility. Because of this you may find that the spammer is hitting you from
a number of 
different Israeli ISPs. Bezeq are the only source of the information as to
the exact 
source of who and where the access was made, i.e. identifying the telephone
line from 
which  the call was made. Bezeq are also the only people who, at this time
can take direct
action against the spammer.  

In order to possibly to get any effective action you should contact the
following, one of who may 
take action:
1. The owner of the domain (fixfax.co.il)that was spamming its services at
Phone +972 3 504-5885
or  FAX +972 3 617-7100. 
2. You could also contact the person who is listed as the contact for the
company that 
hosts the DNS for this domain. (This person is also listed as the only
contact for the domain 
fixfax.co.il.) This is Oved Blass([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Phone +972 3
652-0048, of nethost.co.il.
3. An additional action would be to write to canada.com who are the
providers of the email address 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] which is used as the sender and reply to address for
the spam

   `\|||/  
oO(@ @)Oo_
(_)|_|_|_|_|_|_| 
___||_Zohar Levitan|_|_|_|___| 
V.P. & Chief Technology Officer
Goldnet Communication Services - Israel
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: +972 3 543-3777  FAX: +972 3 548-8643
40 Hanamal Street, 63506 Tel Aviv, Israel

===


Boaz.

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Re: Network sniffing tools - Ethereal

2001-05-17 Thread Tzafrir Cohen

On Thu, 17 May 2001, Daniel Feiglin wrote:

> This worked:
>
> strace -e trace=file -o jun.txt ethereal
>
> The tee thing didn't work. man strace, option -o.

strace sends its trace to stderr, not to stdout. You need something like:

  strace 2>&1

And there you can fit 'tee' , or 'egrep "fstat|fopen"', which I find
useful for detecting which files the program tries to look for.

(And there are probably other ways to do it)

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Re: mkisofs and hebrew filenames

2001-05-17 Thread Gavrie Philipson

Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
> 
> On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 01:47:58PM +0300, Gavrie Philipson wrote:
> > Hi IGLUers,
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone here has succeeded in burning CD-Rs with
> > Hebrew filenames on them, that are readable on that other OS.
> > Normally, mkisofs (with the -J option to create Joliet directories)
> > barfs on Hebrew filenames. When adding the option '-jcharset cp862', the
> > Windows Hebrew filenames are recognized OK, but they are reversed.
> > This means it's not a charset problem, but probably a bidi problem. I
> > suspect that the Joliet filenames somehow aren't processed by the
> > Windows Bidi algorithm in the same way as 'regular' filenames.
> > Does anyone have experience with this? Is hacking mkisofs to use a bidi
> > algorithm for the filenames the correct way to solve this?
> 
> Did you try 'iso8859-8' ? (I'd be suprised to see it work if the
> previous solution didn't, since both should just convert the thing into
> Unicode -- and the source shows no differences as well).

Ilya,
I didn't try, but I will. However, the filenames seems to be in CP862
format (Aleph=128) and not ISO8859-8 (Aleph=224). Is this a Windows
thingie?
 
> Another possible thing might be that you'll need to include a
> zero-width Unicode symbol which means "start bidi algorythm".
> POP DIRECTIONAL FORMATTING (hexadecimal 202C) should apparently do it.
> If that's indeed the solution, then I'd hope you'd choose the "right"
> way to patch mkisofs rather than including a bidi algorythm :)

Hmm...if that works, it certainly is much better.
I'll do some experiments. I'll tell you if I have answers.

Thanks,

Gavrie.

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Re: mkisofs and hebrew filenames

2001-05-17 Thread Tzafrir Cohen

On Thu, 17 May 2001, Gavrie Philipson wrote:

> Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 01:47:58PM +0300, Gavrie Philipson wrote:

> > Another possible thing might be that you'll need to include a
> > zero-width Unicode symbol which means "start bidi algorythm".
> > POP DIRECTIONAL FORMATTING (hexadecimal 202C) should apparently do it.
> > If that's indeed the solution, then I'd hope you'd choose the "right"
> > way to patch mkisofs rather than including a bidi algorythm :)
>
> Hmm...if that works, it certainly is much better.
> I'll do some experiments. I'll tell you if I have answers.

Sounds strange to me.

Afterall, mkisofs did not create those names. Why should it care about
bidi formatting?

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Re: Israeli spammers (Was: goldfish spamming)

2001-05-17 Thread Nadav Har'El

On Thu, May 17, 2001, Boaz Rymland wrote about "RE: Israeli spammers (Was: goldfish 
spamming)":
> 
> I also got spammed from FixFax a few days ago. As a persistent user of
> SpamCop (http://spamcop.net)  I reported it and got the following reply.
> Since I'm not an expert on mail routings, settings, etc' , nor o I have the
> resources to get into this now, I simply settled in calling the actual
> spammer - FixFax. The man on the other line was polite but seems ready for
> such phone calls.
> 
> guys - check this reply I got after sending my spamcop report:
>...

Wow, this is detailed, and quite accurate, accessment of the situation.
Do they have humans in spamcop.net doing this, or is it all done automatically?

Anyway, if you actually want to complain to ISP about fixfax (rather then
complain to, say, the police or reshut haganat hazarchan or something, since
they are not an anonymous company!), here are the ISPs that fixfax used,
to the best of my knowledge: [all this from my personal spam archive ;)]

Dialup connections (through which the spam was sent. The ISP logs should
trivially point to the guilty party, if they wish to cooperate):

all times are Israeli times:

[192.114.85.207] (this is Euronet, or Internet Zahav)
on Fri Mar 30 07:44:00 2001
on Fri Mar 30 07:49:44 2001
on Fri Mar 30 07:49:48 2001
on Fri Mar 30 09:03:56 2001
on Fri Mar 30 09:05:03 2001
on Fri Mar 30 09:26:35 2001
on Fri Mar 30 13:03:04 2001

dialup-135-248.goldnet.net.il [192.115.10.248]
on Tue May  8 10:29:44 2001
on Tue May  8 13:01:51 2001
on Tue May  8 13:31:20 2001
on Tue May  8 10:36:50 2001
on Tue May  8 10:37:03 2001
on Tue May  8 13:02:52 2001

C3600-1-4.BezeqNet135.netvision.net.il [62.0.186.6]
on Wed May  9 02:57:14 2001

Email addresses: (to which the spammer wants to get replies)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Spamvertised sites: (sites the spammer is advertising)
www.fixfax.co.il (212.199.56.208, a netblock from golden-lines)


Conclusion: I sure got a lot of spam from these idiots ;) It appears that
most of their "business" is done with Internet Zahav (and it's various
names: golden lines, goldnet, euronet, etc.), not BezekNet, so please
bombard Internet Zahav with complaints, and leave Hank Nusbacher alone :)
And never EVER buy ANY service from fixfax. 


P.S. I really doubt fixfax has its own spam software, and its own collection
of Israeli email address. I would bet they bought service from some Israeli
spammer, or some international spammer specializing in an Israeli spam list.
Does anybody know who that is?

P.S.#2 The RIPE entry for 212.199.56.208 (fixfax.co.il): (edited for brevity)
inetnum:  212.199.56.192 - 212.199.56.255
descr:OVED-BLASS
country:  IL
changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20010201
source:   RIPE

route:212.199.0.0/17
descr:Golden Lines
origin:   AS9116
mnt-by:   AS9116-MNT
changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2727
source:   RIPE

person:   Oved Blass
address:  8 Sde-Boker st. Holon, Israel
phone:+972-3-5045885
fax-no:   +972-3-6177100
e-mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nic-hdl:  OB3620-RIPE
notify:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
changed:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20010131
source:   RIPE


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Re: mkisofs and hebrew filenames

2001-05-17 Thread Gavrie Philipson

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Thu, 17 May 2001, Gavrie Philipson wrote:
> > Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
> > > Another possible thing might be that you'll need to include a
> > > zero-width Unicode symbol which means "start bidi algorythm".
> > > POP DIRECTIONAL FORMATTING (hexadecimal 202C) should apparently do it.
> > > If that's indeed the solution, then I'd hope you'd choose the "right"
> > > way to patch mkisofs rather than including a bidi algorythm :)
[snip]
> Sounds strange to me.
> 
> Afterall, mkisofs did not create those names. Why should it care about
> bidi formatting?

It shouldn't. The point is, that Windows could look at ISO9660 filenames
in a different way than "normal", on-disk filenames. It could be that
Windows doesn't consider those Hebrew filenames as Hebrew, but rather as
some unknown language, and doesn't use the Bidi algorithm on them. Maybe
Ilya's idea will convince it ;-)

Gavrie.

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RE: Israeli spammers (Was: goldfish spamming)

2001-05-17 Thread Boaz Rymland

I little about this service I use (SpamCop):

it is an automated service which I really dont know its usefulness, but I'm
surely using them with EVERY spam I get.
As just said, its an automatic process which when I send a complete email
message (with headers - you can do this from outlook too) it parses that
headers, query a little the net, including "talking" to ORBS
(http://www.orbs.org ) and prompts me with conclusions about the spam - what
mail servers the message passed along the way (stuff I never read
carefully... :-) 
It then prompts me the contact persons it thinks I should send a "spam
report" to - usually abuse@ or the like. then, with a simple click
it sends a templated Spam complaint to the persons I chose (check boxes).

The message I quoted in my last message is a reply got from the ISP
contacted by my spam report - Goldnet. It seems quite detailed and surely a
nice thing to get in reply (sometimes I get automated replies from ISPs
ready for such spam report mails...).

boaz.



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Re: 1. ftp.tau.ac.il 2. www.exploits.org

2001-05-17 Thread Eran Levy

They have DNS problems. If you are trying to reverse IP to name and its 
working and name to IP and its not working they have problems with their 
name to IP zone files. Tell them to fix it and give them a proof that they 
have a problem. send them email with the problem with the reply tthat you 
are getting from 'host' when you're trying to reverse name to IP and wait 
to get answer from him.
--
The reply in my machine:
[red@lilo]$ host 62.0.148.80
80.148.0.62.IN-ADDR.ARPA domain name pointer ras5-p80.jlm.netvision.net.il
[red@lilo]$ host ras5-p80.jlm.netvision.net.il
ras5-p80.jlm.netvision.net.il has address  62.0.148.80
---



At 08:48 17/05/01 +0300, you wrote:
>On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 03:38:13AM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote:
> > 1. ftp.tau.ac.il:
> > Starting from today I am being able to log anonymously to ftp.tau.ac.il.
> > I wonder if the few other bezeqint users who have reported to have 
> problems
> > with that site can do that as well.
>
> I called Bezeqint and asked them correct their reverse DNS problem.
>The support guy was actually attentive and said he'll get right on it.
>It is likely that your sudden ability to connect to tau's FTP site is derived
>from the fact that bezeqint remedied their problem. It may also have nothing
>to do with it:
>'linux:~$ host 212.179.240.11
>Name: bzq-240-11.bezeqint.net
>Address: 212.179.240.11
>
>linux:~$ host bzq-240-11.bezeqint.net
>bzq-240-11.bezeqint.net does not exist, try again'
>
>Does your IP address pass the above test? Did it not do so in the past?
>I'll call them again today.
>
> Regards, Yotam Rubin
>
>
> >
> >   Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Hillel used to say: If I am not for myself who will be for me?
> > Yet, if I am for myself only, what am I? And if not now, when?
> >   (Ethics Of The Fathers 1:14)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > =
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> >
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Re: 1. ftp.tau.ac.il 2. www.exploits.org

2001-05-17 Thread Ishai Parasol

Hi

I'm trying to log anonimously with a bezeqint account and still get the same
problem...

Ishai.

- Original Message -
From: "Shaul Karl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 3:38 AM
Subject: 1. ftp.tau.ac.il 2. www.exploits.org


> 1. ftp.tau.ac.il:
> Starting from today I am being able to log anonymously to ftp.tau.ac.il.
> I wonder if the few other bezeqint users who have reported to have
problems
> with that site can do that as well.
>
>
> 2. www.exploits.org
> Yet I have a new problem: www.exploits.org, which is a free software site
that
> hosts a few projects.
> Can people, especially bezeqint users, try to traceroute it?
>
> The www.exploits.org admin told me that bezeqint is 18 hops away:
>
> 16  195.ATM8-0-0.GW3.NYC1.ALTER.NET (146.188.177.129)  131.688 ms  132.167
ms
> 127.474 ms
> 17  Bezeq-1-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.252.222)  310.454 ms
> APX-TA.bezeqint.net (212.25.92.5)  320.504 ms
> Bezeq-1-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.252.222)  315.826 ms
>
>
> My traceroute doesn't get to it:
>
> [03:31:34 tmp]$ /usr/sbin/traceroute -m 22 www.exploits.org
> traceroute to gearbox.exploits.org (65.64.162.194), 22 hops max, 38 byte
> packets
>  1  APX-TA.bezeqint.net (212.25.92.5)  44.597 ms  49.342 ms  42.185 ms
>  2  6000.bezeqint.net (212.25.92.30)  45.944 ms *  46.554 ms
>  3  212.179.59.195 (212.179.59.195)  48.240 ms  50.165 ms  43.660 ms
>  4  gw0.bezeqint.net (192.115.106.254)  49.798 ms  57.993 ms  53.749 ms
>  5  212.25.93.242 (212.25.93.242)  49.183 ms  50.081 ms  48.866 ms
>  6  500.Serial2-1-1.GW3.NYC1.ALTER.NET (157.130.252.221)  221.040 ms
221.719
> ms  223.256 ms
>  7  104.ATM3-0.XR1.NYC1.ALTER.NET (146.188.177.138)  223.496 ms  218.933
ms
> 222.632 ms
>  8  195.at-1-0-0.XR1.NYC9.ALTER.NET (152.63.18.26)  226.871 ms  226.725 ms
> 215.925 ms
>  9  0.so-2-1-0.XL1.NYC9.ALTER.NET (152.63.23.137)  220.727 ms  217.705 ms
> 224.678 ms
> 10  POS6-0.BR3.NYC9.ALTER.NET (152.63.24.97)  228.676 ms  220.195 ms
217.025
> ms
> 11  137.39.52.78 (137.39.52.78)  220.622 ms  214.595 ms  222.427 ms
> 12  ord2-core2-pos5-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.48.38)  246.275 ms  243.931
ms
> 238.921 ms
> 13  ord2-core3-pos7-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.48.94)  240.643 ms  247.973
ms
> 240.796 ms
> 14  ord2-core4-pos7-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.48.98)  239.738 ms  250.413
ms
> 238.554 ms
> 15  dfw3-core1-pos5-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.48.69)  258.115 ms  259.307
ms
> 263.524 ms
> 16  dfw3-core2-pos6-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.48.122)  269.827 ms  268.158
ms
> 264.595 ms
> 17  sat1-core1-s3-3.atlas.icix.net (165.117.52.117)  282.122 ms  281.064
ms
> 286.490 ms
> 18  206.181.162.90 (206.181.162.90)  281.510 ms  278.914 ms  287.304 ms
> 19  core1-fa0-0-0.snantx.swbell.net (151.164.17.228)  289.016 ms  281.032
ms
> 281.021 ms
> 20  rback1-fa2-0.snantx.swbell.net (151.164.17.70)  289.380 ms *  295.789
ms
> 21  * * *
> 22  * * *
>
> --
>
> Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Hillel used to say: If I am not for myself who will be for me?
> Yet, if I am for myself only, what am I? And if not now, when?
>   (Ethics Of The Fathers 1:14)
>
>
>
>
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Re: Israeli spammers (Was: goldfish spamming)

2001-05-17 Thread Nadav Har'El

[Obviously, this thread doesn't have much to do with Linux...]

On Thu, May 17, 2001, Boaz Rymland wrote about "RE: Israeli spammers (Was: goldfish 
spamming)":
> The message I quoted in my last message is a reply got from the ISP
> contacted by my spam report - Goldnet. It seems quite detailed and surely a
> nice thing to get in reply (sometimes I get automated replies from ISPs
> ready for such spam report mails...).

Oh, I thought this was a reply from spamcop.

If that was a reply from Internet Zahav, it is detailed and accurate, but
somewhat unfair and missing one important point: almost all of the spam
was sent using their dialup account, and even if that was done through
bezeknet (was it? Only one of the spams carried a bezeknet address) they
should be able to either have bezeknet be accountable for its users, or
filter port 25 for bezeknet users...
Also, fixfax.co.il is running on a Internet Zahav connection. fixfax
is almost certainly a heavy Internet user (since it's main business is
sending faxes by email), and that is probably using Internet Zahav too
(though I can't prove that). So Internet Zahav must have a strong leverage
on stopping fixfax's spamming. If this guy spits in the well from which
he's drinking (i.e., abusing Internet Zahav to spam when he depends on them
for his business), he should be forced to drink it all :)

Complaining to canada.com, for example, will do you no good: this spam invites
people to see "www.fixfax.co.il". They couldn't care less if the reply
address is cancelled, because they don't even want or need people to reply
to the spam. In fact, he could use an address "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" for
a reply address (see www.nowhere.com :)). What then? Will Internet Zahav
recommend that you comlain to them too? :)

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Re: 1. ftp.tau.ac.il 2. www.exploits.org

2001-05-17 Thread Eran Levy

You can log in any login you want thats not means that this will fix the 
DNS problem. send email to the admin as I said in my previous mail and let 
him answer you and fix the DNS.

At 11:35 17/05/01 +0300, you wrote:
>Hi
>
>I'm trying to log anonimously with a bezeqint account and still get the same
>problem...
>
>Ishai.
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Shaul Karl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 3:38 AM
>Subject: 1. ftp.tau.ac.il 2. www.exploits.org
>
>
> > 1. ftp.tau.ac.il:
> > Starting from today I am being able to log anonymously to ftp.tau.ac.il.
> > I wonder if the few other bezeqint users who have reported to have
>problems
> > with that site can do that as well.
> >
> >
> > 2. www.exploits.org
> > Yet I have a new problem: www.exploits.org, which is a free software site
>that
> > hosts a few projects.
> > Can people, especially bezeqint users, try to traceroute it?
> >
> > The www.exploits.org admin told me that bezeqint is 18 hops away:
> >
> > 16  195.ATM8-0-0.GW3.NYC1.ALTER.NET (146.188.177.129)  131.688 ms  132.167
>ms
> > 127.474 ms
> > 17  Bezeq-1-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.252.222)  310.454 ms
> > APX-TA.bezeqint.net (212.25.92.5)  320.504 ms
> > Bezeq-1-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.252.222)  315.826 ms
> >
> >
> > My traceroute doesn't get to it:
> >
> > [03:31:34 tmp]$ /usr/sbin/traceroute -m 22 www.exploits.org
> > traceroute to gearbox.exploits.org (65.64.162.194), 22 hops max, 38 byte
> > packets
> >  1  APX-TA.bezeqint.net (212.25.92.5)  44.597 ms  49.342 ms  42.185 ms
> >  2  6000.bezeqint.net (212.25.92.30)  45.944 ms *  46.554 ms
> >  3  212.179.59.195 (212.179.59.195)  48.240 ms  50.165 ms  43.660 ms
> >  4  gw0.bezeqint.net (192.115.106.254)  49.798 ms  57.993 ms  53.749 ms
> >  5  212.25.93.242 (212.25.93.242)  49.183 ms  50.081 ms  48.866 ms
> >  6  500.Serial2-1-1.GW3.NYC1.ALTER.NET (157.130.252.221)  221.040 ms
>221.719
> > ms  223.256 ms
> >  7  104.ATM3-0.XR1.NYC1.ALTER.NET (146.188.177.138)  223.496 ms  218.933
>ms
> > 222.632 ms
> >  8  195.at-1-0-0.XR1.NYC9.ALTER.NET (152.63.18.26)  226.871 ms  226.725 ms
> > 215.925 ms
> >  9  0.so-2-1-0.XL1.NYC9.ALTER.NET (152.63.23.137)  220.727 ms  217.705 ms
> > 224.678 ms
> > 10  POS6-0.BR3.NYC9.ALTER.NET (152.63.24.97)  228.676 ms  220.195 ms
>217.025
> > ms
> > 11  137.39.52.78 (137.39.52.78)  220.622 ms  214.595 ms  222.427 ms
> > 12  ord2-core2-pos5-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.48.38)  246.275 ms  243.931
>ms
> > 238.921 ms
> > 13  ord2-core3-pos7-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.48.94)  240.643 ms  247.973
>ms
> > 240.796 ms
> > 14  ord2-core4-pos7-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.48.98)  239.738 ms  250.413
>ms
> > 238.554 ms
> > 15  dfw3-core1-pos5-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.48.69)  258.115 ms  259.307
>ms
> > 263.524 ms
> > 16  dfw3-core2-pos6-0.atlas.icix.net (165.117.48.122)  269.827 ms  268.158
>ms
> > 264.595 ms
> > 17  sat1-core1-s3-3.atlas.icix.net (165.117.52.117)  282.122 ms  281.064
>ms
> > 286.490 ms
> > 18  206.181.162.90 (206.181.162.90)  281.510 ms  278.914 ms  287.304 ms
> > 19  core1-fa0-0-0.snantx.swbell.net (151.164.17.228)  289.016 ms  281.032
>ms
> > 281.021 ms
> > 20  rback1-fa2-0.snantx.swbell.net (151.164.17.70)  289.380 ms *  295.789
>ms
> > 21  * * *
> > 22  * * *
> >
> > --
> >
> > Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Hillel used to say: If I am not for myself who will be for me?
> > Yet, if I am for myself only, what am I? And if not now, when?
> >   (Ethics Of The Fathers 1:14)
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Re: Serial Console Blues

2001-05-17 Thread Yedidya Bar-david

Hi

On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 11:43:51AM +0300, Haim Gelfenbeyn wrote:
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Haim Gelfenbeyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 11:41 AM
> To: Linux-Il
> Subject: Serial Console Blues
> 
> 
> Hello,
> My Linux box does not have any video/keyboard/mouse, its connected to
> other management machine with serial cable. I have two problems with
> this setup:
> 
> 1. Some daemon programs that run in init. scripts write to STDERR on
> critical errors, etc. If management machine is down, it looks that
> write to /dev/console blocks, therefore these programs hung. Am I
> correct here, and can I do anything about it?

I tried a bit, and never made it to work. My solution was simply
to make /dev/console a softlink to /dev/ttySx. This worked like
a charm, but I had to recreate it (mknod /dev/console c 5 1) when
I went back to KVM console.

> 
> 2. I experienced a few mysterious crashes lately, and want to send
> "MagicKey" over serial console next time that machine crashes.
> /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sysrq.txt says: "send a BREAK, then
> within 5 seconds a command key. Sending BREAK twice is interpreted as
> a normal BREAK.". Question is, what is BREAK and how I send it from
> SecureCRT on Windows or other Windows terminal program?

Searching in google for "break signal" will provide an answer.
I don't know about SecureCRT. In minicom (under linux) you can press
"C-a f". Most serious communication programs should provide that somehow.

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> Haim.
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Linux MAPI server?

2001-05-17 Thread Jonathan Ben-Avraham

Hi,
Now that HP OpenMail is officially dead, is there a MAPI server,
proprietary or not, tha I can use on Linux instead of Exchange?

 - yba

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Re: 1. ftp.tau.ac.il 2. www.exploits.org

2001-05-17 Thread Yotam Rubin

Yes. I know that, that's why I called them. I already e-mailed them two days
ago regarding this problem. I contacted them today and I was told the following:
"Our team is working on the problem." 
BTW, can you please not 'CC:' me when sending list-wide messages?

Yotam Rubin.

On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 11:38:27AM +0200, Eran Levy wrote:
> They have DNS problems. If you are trying to reverse IP to name and its 
> working and name to IP and its not working they have problems with their 
> name to IP zone files. Tell them to fix it and give them a proof that they 
> have a problem. send them email with the problem with the reply tthat you 
> are getting from 'host' when you're trying to reverse name to IP and wait 
> to get answer from him.
> --
> The reply in my machine:
> [red@lilo]$ host 62.0.148.80
> 80.148.0.62.IN-ADDR.ARPA domain name pointer ras5-p80.jlm.netvision.net.il
> [red@lilo]$ host ras5-p80.jlm.netvision.net.il
> ras5-p80.jlm.netvision.net.il has address  62.0.148.80
> ---
> 
> 
> 
> At 08:48 17/05/01 +0300, you wrote:
> >On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 03:38:13AM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote:
> > > 1. ftp.tau.ac.il:
> > > Starting from today I am being able to log anonymously to ftp.tau.ac.il.
> > > I wonder if the few other bezeqint users who have reported to have 
> > problems
> > > with that site can do that as well.
> >
> > I called Bezeqint and asked them correct their reverse DNS problem.
> >The support guy was actually attentive and said he'll get right on it.
> >It is likely that your sudden ability to connect to tau's FTP site is derived
> >from the fact that bezeqint remedied their problem. It may also have nothing
> >to do with it:
> >'linux:~$ host 212.179.240.11
> >Name: bzq-240-11.bezeqint.net
> >Address: 212.179.240.11
> >
> >linux:~$ host bzq-240-11.bezeqint.net
> >bzq-240-11.bezeqint.net does not exist, try again'
> >
> >Does your IP address pass the above test? Did it not do so in the past?
> >I'll call them again today.
> >
> > Regards, Yotam Rubin
> >
> >
> > >
> > >   Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > > Hillel used to say: If I am not for myself who will be for me?
> > > Yet, if I am for myself only, what am I? And if not now, when?
> > >   (Ethics Of The Fathers 1:14)
> > >
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Re: 1. ftp.tau.ac.il 2. www.exploits.org

2001-05-17 Thread Shaul Karl

> On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 03:38:13AM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote:
> > 1. ftp.tau.ac.il:
> > Starting from today I am being able to log anonymously to ftp.tau.ac.il.
> > I wonder if the few other bezeqint users who have reported to have problems 
> > with that site can do that as well.
> 
>   I called Bezeqint and asked them correct their reverse DNS problem.
> The support guy was actually attentive and said he'll get right on it.
> It is likely that your sudden ability to connect to tau's FTP site is derived
> from the fact that bezeqint remedied their problem. It may also have nothing
> to do with it:  
> 'linux:~$ host 212.179.240.11
> Name: bzq-240-11.bezeqint.net
> Address: 212.179.240.11
> 
> linux:~$ host bzq-240-11.bezeqint.net
> bzq-240-11.bezeqint.net does not exist, try again'  
> 
> Does your IP address pass the above test? Did it not do so in the past?
> I'll call them again today.
> 


Currently it does pass the test. I didn't tried before.
I spoke to their support as well. It does work now because of their support 
intervention.
BTW: when speaking to their `private' user support you might want to ask the 
supporter to actually go to their dial-up machine and dial from it using the 
bezeq number that you are using to dial for their pop center. Otherwise he 
might use his machine, and his machine might be connected to the Internet 
differently from your machine.

Does the fact the other people have reported 

421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection

meaningful? I mean, can't it be due to the remote site has reached max 
connections?
Perhaps they should try again later? 



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> 
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> > 
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> > 
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> > Yet, if I am for myself only, what am I? And if not now, when?
> >   (Ethics Of The Fathers 1:14)
> > 
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RH71 and Sendmail

2001-05-17 Thread Evgeny Popov

Sendmail on freshly installed RH71 (2 machines) does not respond to
connections:

telnet MYIP 25 - Unable connect to host: connection refused.

telnet 127.0.0.1 25 - getting a prompt.

I don't have either ipchains/iptables active nor start sendmail through
xinetd.

netstat -nl:
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:25 0.0.0.0* LISTEN

nmap does not shows port 25 open

I do have resolving for my hostname through /etc/hosts.

I even put a RELAY entry for my IP in /etc/mail/access file, though it is
not related.

It seems to me to be some firewalling problem, but i can not find any sign
of firewalling on my system

Any assistance would be appriciated,

Evgeny



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Re: 1. ftp.tau.ac.il 2. www.exploits.org

2001-05-17 Thread Yaron Zabary

On Thu, 17 May 2001, Shaul Karl wrote:

> Currently it does pass the test. I didn't tried before.
> I spoke to their support as well. It does work now because of their support
> intervention.
> BTW: when speaking to their `private' user support you might want to ask the
> supporter to actually go to their dial-up machine and dial from it using the
> bezeq number that you are using to dial for their pop center. Otherwise he
> might use his machine, and his machine might be connected to the Internet
> differently from your machine.
> 
> Does the fact the other people have reported
>   
>   421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
> 
> meaningful? I mean, can't it be due to the remote site has reached max
> connections?
> Perhaps they should try again later?

  This is from ftp.tau.ac.il:

# uptime
  4:21pm  up 18 day(s),  1:36,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.01
# ftpwho
Service class users:
   -   0 users (no maximum)
Service class tau:
   -   0 users ( 50 maximum)
Service class iiucc:
   -   0 users ( 50 maximum)
Service class israel:
   -   0 users ( 20 maximum)
Service class world:
   -   0 users ( 20 maximum)

  As you can see the machine is not very loaded.

  We (TAU) were getting these Bezeq Int users' complaints for many months
and always sent the users to their support. I am not sure what is taking
them so much time to fix this problem.


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Mandrake 2.4.4 kernel

2001-05-17 Thread Eran Levy

Good news!
The Mandrake 2.4.4 kernel is going to release something like in the end of 
the week. Thats what I got from a friend in Mandrake. so wait :)



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RE: RH71 and Sendmail

2001-05-17 Thread Evgeny Popov

EXACTLY.
Thanks a lot.

> -Original Message-
> From: Alon Barzilai [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: ä 17 îàé 2001 16:39
> To:   Evgeny Popov
> Subject:  Re: RH71 and Sendmail
> 
> hi,
> 
> look at the DeamonPortOptions in /etc/sendmail.cf
> you will probably find there
> Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1.
> 
> change addr to your address.
> 
> Alon
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Evgeny Popov wrote:
> > 
> > Sendmail on freshly installed RH71 (2 machines) does not respond to
> > connections:
> > 
> > telnet MYIP 25 - Unable connect to host: connection refused.
> > 
> > telnet 127.0.0.1 25 - getting a prompt.
> > 
> > I don't have either ipchains/iptables active nor start sendmail through
> > xinetd.
> > 
> > netstat -nl:
> > tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:25 0.0.0.0* LISTEN
> > 
> > nmap does not shows port 25 open
> > 
> > I do have resolving for my hostname through /etc/hosts.
> > 
> > I even put a RELAY entry for my IP in /etc/mail/access file, though it
> is
> > not related.
> > 
> > It seems to me to be some firewalling problem, but i can not find any
> sign
> > of firewalling on my system
> > 
> > Any assistance would be appriciated,
> > 
> > Evgeny
> > 
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Re: RH71 and Sendmail

2001-05-17 Thread Nadav Har'El

On Thu, May 17, 2001, Evgeny Popov wrote about "RH71 and Sendmail":
> Sendmail on freshly installed RH71 (2 machines) does not respond to
> connections:
> 
> telnet MYIP 25 - Unable connect to host: connection refused.
> 
> telnet 127.0.0.1 25 - getting a prompt.
> 
> I don't have either ipchains/iptables active nor start sendmail through
> xinetd.
> 
> netstat -nl:
> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:25 0.0.0.0* LISTEN

As you can see from the above line, sendmail is listening only on the
localhost (127.0.0.1) interface - it will not accept any connections
from non-localhost Internet addresses.

This doesn't have anything to do with firewall, but rather a sendmail
configuration option. Redhat decided (finally) that its default configuration
should be made more secure, so by default sendmail only accepts connections.

BTW, quoting 
http://www.redhat.com/support/manuals/RHL-7.1-Manual/ref-guide/s1-sendmail-changes.html,

"Do not use Linuxconf to configure Sendmail! The Linuxconf module
 mailconf, designed to make editing /etc/sendmail.cf easier, is
 broken and contains out-of-date information about rule sets used
 in Sendmail configuration."

(btw, I found this page by searching "7.1 sendmail" on redhat.com.)

See the above site on how to configure sendmail. The line causing this
problem is the following section in /etc/mail/sendmail.mc:

  dnl This changes sendmail to only listen on the loopback device 127.0.0.1
  dnl and not on any other network devices. Comment this out if you want
  dnl to accept email over the network.
  DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA')

after commenting out (with "dnl") this line, run
m4 /etc/mail/sendmail.mc > /etc/sendmail.cf

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Re: 1. ftp.tau.ac.il 2. www.exploits.org

2001-05-17 Thread Yotam Rubin

On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 04:23:03PM +0300, Yaron Zabary wrote:
> On Thu, 17 May 2001, Shaul Karl wrote:
> 
> > Currently it does pass the test. I didn't tried before.
> > I spoke to their support as well. It does work now because of their support
> > intervention.
> > BTW: when speaking to their `private' user support you might want to ask the
> > supporter to actually go to their dial-up machine and dial from it using the
> > bezeq number that you are using to dial for their pop center. Otherwise he
> > might use his machine, and his machine might be connected to the Internet
> > differently from your machine.
> > 
> > Does the fact the other people have reported
> >   
> >   421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
> > 
> > meaningful? I mean, can't it be due to the remote site has reached max
> > connections?
> > Perhaps they should try again later?
> 
>   This is from ftp.tau.ac.il:
> 
> # uptime
>   4:21pm  up 18 day(s),  1:36,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.01
> # ftpwho
> Service class users:
>-   0 users (no maximum)
> Service class tau:
>-   0 users ( 50 maximum)
> Service class iiucc:
>-   0 users ( 50 maximum)
> Service class israel:
>-   0 users ( 20 maximum)
> Service class world:
>-   0 users ( 20 maximum)
> 
>   As you can see the machine is not very loaded.
> 
>   We (TAU) were getting these Bezeq Int users' complaints for many months
> and always sent the users to their support. I am not sure what is taking
> them so much time to fix this problem.
> 

Funny, the support guy claims to have never heard about the problem;
He believed that TAU banned all of bezeqint, it took me a while to convince
him otherwise. If one really wishes to resolve this matter, then one should
probably call their support department and threaten the cancel one's 
subscription if they do not solve the issue within a reasonable amount
of time.


Regards, Yotam Rubin

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Re: RH71 and Sendmail

2001-05-17 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt

"Nadav Har'El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   "Do not use Linuxconf to configure Sendmail! The Linuxconf module
>mailconf, designed to make editing /etc/sendmail.cf easier, is
>broken and contains out-of-date information about rule sets used
>  in Sendmail configuration."

For this and other reasons RH deprecate linuxconf. I have not seen
seawolf (RH7.1) yet (can anyone burn the CD's, btw), but judging from
the seawolf-list it is not even in control-panel any longer.

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Netscape plugins in Konqueror

2001-05-17 Thread solomon

I have the Flash plug-i installed and I can see Flash animations in Netscape. 
But I can't see them in Konqueror. I'm running KDE on Mandrake 8.0. 

Here'e a quote from the Konqueror help:


Currently, Konqueror supports Netscape® 4.x plugins.

If you select Preferences->Web Browsing->Netscape Plugins from the K menu you
will get a dialog box with two tabbed pages; Scan and Plugins.



My problem is that I can't find  
**Preferences->Web Browsing->Netscape Plugins** or even anything similar
anywhere in the menu tree. 

What am I missing?TIA

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Date: 17-May-2001   Time: 18:55:52

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Re: RH71 and Sendmail

2001-05-17 Thread Ariel Biener

On Thu, 17 May 2001, Evgeny Popov wrote:


RedHat 7.1 has a misconfigured sendmail.cf. Locate a line in sendmail.cf
that looks like this:

O DaemonPortOptions=Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA

Comment it out. Restart sendmail.

--Ariel
> Sendmail on freshly installed RH71 (2 machines) does not respond to
> connections:
> 
> telnet MYIP 25 - Unable connect to host: connection refused.
> 
> telnet 127.0.0.1 25 - getting a prompt.
> 
> I don't have either ipchains/iptables active nor start sendmail through
> xinetd.
> 
> netstat -nl:
> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:25 0.0.0.0* LISTEN
> 
> nmap does not shows port 25 open
> 
> I do have resolving for my hostname through /etc/hosts.
> 
> I even put a RELAY entry for my IP in /etc/mail/access file, though it is
> not related.
> 
> It seems to me to be some firewalling problem, but i can not find any sign
> of firewalling on my system
> 
> Any assistance would be appriciated,
> 
> Evgeny
> 
> 
> 
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Re: 1. ftp.tau.ac.il 2. www.exploits.org

2001-05-17 Thread Ariel Biener

On Thu, 17 May 2001, Yotam Rubin wrote:


Did their support ever think of contacting us about it ?

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> 
> Funny, the support guy claims to have never heard about the problem;
> He believed that TAU banned all of bezeqint, it took me a while to convince
> him otherwise. If one really wishes to resolve this matter, then one should
> probably call their support department and threaten the cancel one's
> subscription if they do not solve the issue within a reasonable amount
> of time.
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Re: RH71 and Sendmail

2001-05-17 Thread Nadav Har'El

On Thu, May 17, 2001, Ariel Biener wrote about "Re: RH71 and Sendmail":
> RedHat 7.1 has a misconfigured sendmail.cf. Locate a line in sendmail.cf
> that looks like this:
> 
> O DaemonPortOptions=Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA
> 
> Comment it out. Restart sendmail.

You shouldn't edit /etc/sendmail.cf manually... It is automatically generated
from /etc/mail/sendmail.mc using a set of m4 macros making it much easier
to understand the configuration file. See my previous post on what line to
comment there (or just read the comments there!) and how to recreate
/etc/sendmail.cf.

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is there a problem on kde.org???

2001-05-17 Thread solomon

I've been trying to reach www.kde.org for several hours - any idea what the
problem is? Is the site down?

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is there a problem on kde.org??? - part 2

2001-05-17 Thread solomon

further to my previous message, here's the output of traceroute - I gave up
after about 5 minutes !


[root@shlomo1 /root]# traceroute www.kde.org
traceroute to www.kde.org (213.203.58.36), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
 1  192-117-196-1.adsl.israsrv.net.il (192.117.196.1)  20.440 ms  129.710 ms 
33.446 ms
 2  192.114.159.249 (192.114.159.249)  39.600 ms  49.939 ms  38.345 ms
 3  62.90.50.97 (62.90.50.97)  36.237 ms  66.593 ms  51.575 ms
 4  barak-1-bb-backbone.barak.net.il (206.49.94.115)  45.760 ms  45.055 ms 
37.171 ms
 5  bb2.ser3-0-1.barak.net.il (212.150.4.178)  36.189 ms  34.847 ms  34.950 ms
 6  bb3-1.ser1-0-1.barak.net.il (212.150.4.206)  34.861 ms  34.626 ms  34.908 ms
 7  bb3-2.fas1-1-0.barak.net.il (212.150.232.81)  47.156 ms  35.340 ms  41.071
ms
 8  bb-ny.ser5-0-0.barak.net.il (212.150.232.65)  195.076 ms  178.710 ms 
174.122 ms
 9  500.Serial3-6.GW3.NYC6.ALTER.NET (157.130.254.121)  2602.487 ms  2842.902
ms  3003.168 ms
10  521.ATM2-0.XR2.NYC4.ALTER.NET (152.63.24.38)  2977.375 ms  2821.152 ms *
11  188.at-2-0-0.TR2.NYC8.ALTER.NET (152.63.21.114)  2994.316 ms  2759.807 ms 
2955.942 ms
12  124.at-5-0-0.IR2.NYC9.ALTER.NET (152.63.1.197)  3011.737 ms  2723.669 ms *
13  so-0-0-0.IR2.NYC12.ALTER.NET (152.63.23.66)  2929.762 ms  2981.841 ms 
2965.271 ms
14  SO-7-0-0.IR1.NYC12.Alter.Net (146.188.8.197)  2993.932 ms  2381.587 ms 
2926.666 ms
15  so-5-0-0.TR1.FFT1.Alter.Net (146.188.3.202)  3018.829 ms  3261.746 ms 
3016.241 ms
16  so-6-0-0.TR1.CPH3.Alter.Net (146.188.7.193)  3010.371 ms  3175.894 ms 
3033.883 ms
17  so-7-1-0.XR1.OSL1.Alter.Net (146.188.12.29)  3031.026 ms  2562.110 ms 
2927.763 ms
18  POS0-0-0.GW2.OSL1.Alter.Net (146.188.12.42)  3008.079 ms  2569.798 ms 
2975.749 ms
19  Trolltech-gw1.customer.ALTER.NET (146.188.38.58)  2987.024 ms  2828.936 ms 
2973.316 ms
20  * * *
21  * * *
22  * * *
23  * * *
24  * * *
25  * * *
26  * * *
27  * * *

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Re: RH71 and Sendmail

2001-05-17 Thread Ariel Biener

On Thu, 17 May 2001, Nadav Har'El wrote:


  Well, there are two "askolot". One believes in using m4 for the creation
of sendmail.cf. One uses vi.

  I personally do not belong to either of them. I believe a large mail
server should use m4, since it's easier to control changes and add
features using the m4 macros, than to control it when directly editing
sendmail.cf. For a home user, or someone that runs a standalone sendmail
server that serves himself (or himself and 10-20 people), there is no
added value from using the m4 macros, not only that, learning to find how
to add new features or deal with existing ones with the macros for medium
level sysadmins is a real pain.

  Thus, I believe that using vi in these cases is easier, and has no
bearing on either ease of use or anything else.

my 2 cents,

--Ariel

> You shouldn't edit /etc/sendmail.cf manually... It is automatically generated
> from /etc/mail/sendmail.mc using a set of m4 macros making it much easier
> to understand the configuration file. See my previous post on what line to
> comment there (or just read the comments there!) and how to recreate
> /etc/sendmail.cf.
> 
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Re: RH71 and Sendmail

2001-05-17 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt

Ariel Biener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> For a home user, or someone that runs a standalone sendmail
> server that serves himself (or himself and 10-20 people), there is no
> added value from using the m4 macros, 

Given the incredibly convoluted syntax of sendmail.cf, I see a lot
of added value in m4 (which is not the greatest, admittedly) for
my home box.

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Re: RH71 and Sendmail

2001-05-17 Thread Ariel Biener

On 17 May 2001, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:


Umm, yeah, but the options in it are not cryptic, so you can learn to
manipulate it quickly, and I am talking about the general options, not
about rewriting the sendmail "rewrite" rules :)

--Ariel

P.S. By the way, there was this guy at TAU once, before my time, who wrote
a BASIC interpreter using sendmail regexp :)

> 
> Given the incredibly convoluted syntax of sendmail.cf, I see a lot
> of added value in m4 (which is not the greatest, admittedly) for
> my home box.
> 
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Re: is there a problem on kde.org???

2001-05-17 Thread Ely Levy

I dont' want to be rude or anythign by it seems to become a custome
latly to send to the list about every site which is down for more than a
day.. linux sites or not I don't think we should get a daily report on
which sites are down or not..
and the thread after
I find it kind of annyoing
if there is a problem with a site why won't people ask that question
to the site maintainer or thier isp?
this is hardly the place for it ..
 

Ely Levy
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Re: RH71 and Sendmail

2001-05-17 Thread Ehud Karni

On Thu, 17 May 2001 19:56:54 +0300 (IDT), Ariel Biener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
>   Well, there are two "askolot". One believes in using m4 for the creation
> of sendmail.cf. One uses vi.
> 
>   I personally do not belong to either of them. I believe a large mail
> server should use m4, since it's easier to control changes and add
> features using the m4 macros, than to control it when directly editing
> sendmail.cf. 

I manage a sendmail server for a medium company (~200 employees).
My experience (of several years and 3 generations of sendmail - I
haven't installed the 8.11 yet) is that is easier to do the rough
configuring using the macros, but fine-tune using sendmail.cf. There
are some things you can not do with macros unless you change their
source definitions which amounts to changing sendmail.cf by hand.

The supposed benefit of using macros only is the easier move to new
version of sendmail, but my experience is that you should save the
old sendmail.cf and compare it to the new one. IT CAN SAVE A LOT OF
TIME DEBUGGING.

My "kingdom" includes 9 Linux's. 2 of them are configured as stand
alone mail servers and are connected directly to the Internet.
The other 7 (clients) uses our main mail server as relay. Whenever
I install a new client Linux I just copy the sendmail.cf and change
the hostname in it.

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Re: is there a problem on kde.org???

2001-05-17 Thread Eran Levy

Yes the site is down from yesterday night. You can ping it and see 100% loss.
The ftp.kde.org is working because it linked to another server and its just 
a cname of the real server that KDE serves there ftp. I think www.kde.org 
is down because of upgrading or something but I dont know the truth.

At 20:57 17/05/01 +0300, you wrote:
>I've been trying to reach www.kde.org for several hours - any idea what the
>problem is? Is the site down?
>
>//-
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Re: Another Windoze only site

2001-05-17 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo

2.0.1??

How about visiting your favourite mirror and upgrading your KDE to 2.1.1 
first? there were few..hmm.. unpleasant bugs in KDE 2.0.1 with User Agent...

So upgrade and try again...

Hetz

On Thursday 17 May 2001 08:54, Daniel Feiglin wrote:
> Hello Hetz,
>
> I found Configure under Settings, but nothing that looked like user-agent.
> I'm using Konq v1.9.8 under KDE 2.0.1 straight out of the SuSE 7.1 box.
>
> Have I missed something?
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Re: Linux MAPI server?

2001-05-17 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo

If you're looking for something for calendars, appointments managing etc - 
then you should visit Bynari's server - www.bynari.net

They got also there a nice tutorial how to make your Outlook 2000 works with 
scheduling with their server...

Hetz


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> Hi,
> Now that HP OpenMail is officially dead, is there a MAPI server,
> proprietary or not, tha I can use on Linux instead of Exchange?
>
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Re: is there a problem on kde.org???

2001-05-17 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo

Yes, it's down

Problem known.

Hetz


On Thursday 17 May 2001 22:14, Eran Levy wrote:
> Yes the site is down from yesterday night. You can ping it and see 100%
> loss. The ftp.kde.org is working because it linked to another server and
> its just a cname of the real server that KDE serves there ftp. I think
> www.kde.org is down because of upgrading or something but I dont know the
> truth.
>
> At 20:57 17/05/01 +0300, you wrote:
> >I've been trying to reach www.kde.org for several hours - any idea what
> > the problem is? Is the site down?
> >
> >//-
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Re: is there a problem on kde.org???

2001-05-17 Thread Eran Levy

The sites are down for their reasons.
At 21:54 17/05/01 +0300, you wrote:
>I dont' want to be rude or anythign by it seems to become a custome
>latly to send to the list about every site which is down for more than a
>day.. linux sites or not I don't think we should get a daily report on
>which sites are down or not..
>and the thread after
>I find it kind of annyoing
>if there is a problem with a site why won't people ask that question
>to the site maintainer or thier isp?
>this is hardly the place for it ..
>
>
>Ely Levy
>System group
>Hebrew University
>Jerusalem Israel
>
>
>
>On Thu, 17 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I've been trying to reach www.kde.org for several hours - any idea what the
> > problem is? Is the site down?
> >
> > //-
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Anti Aliasing @ KDE2.1.1

2001-05-17 Thread Sagi Bashari

Hello,

I recently installed anti aliasing here. it works pretty good, except one 
_big_ problem: KDE only shows my truetype/type1 fonts, so I can't use any 
"normal" font with KDE applications (ie. no helvetica font). 

I'm almost sure that tried everything. I recompiled X from the CVS tree,  and 
recompiled qt 2.3.0 myself. Still - no luck.

Now I know that the problem is in KDE, and not QT/X. When I start QT program 
(designer, for example) from another windows manager (i used blackbox) and 
set QT_XFT to true, I can see all my fonts, and the truetype ones are 
anti-aliased. When I start it from KDE, I can only see the truetype/type1 
ones. 

I'm using slackware-current (glibc-2.2.2).

I checked slackware's build scripts - KDE is compiled normally there, no 
special args etc.

Sagi

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Re: Netscape plugins in Konqueror

2001-05-17 Thread Ilya Konstantinov

On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 07:01:51PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> My problem is that I can't find  
> **Preferences->Web Browsing->Netscape Plugins** or even anything similar
> anywhere in the menu tree. 
> 
> What am I missing?TIA

/usr/lib/libkcm_nsplugin.so (the KDE Control Center module for Netscape
plugins) is provided by kdebase-libs on my Debian system. You might
look for something similar on RedHat.

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Re: Netscape plugins in Konqueror

2001-05-17 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo

Well Ilya, I exchanged emails with Solomon - he says that he has installed 
KDE from Mandrake 8 CD (ISO) and it didn't come with Netscape plug in support 
- which means that lesstif is missing..

I kinda hard to belive that Mandrake didn't compile kde against lesstif... 
highly unlikely...

Hetz


On Friday 18 May 2001 02:33, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
> On Thu, May 17, 2001 at 07:01:51PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > My problem is that I can't find
> > **Preferences->Web Browsing->Netscape Plugins** or even anything similar
> > anywhere in the menu tree.
> >
> > What am I missing?TIA
>
> /usr/lib/libkcm_nsplugin.so (the KDE Control Center module for Netscape
> plugins) is provided by kdebase-libs on my Debian system. You might
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Re: Netscape plugins in Konqueror

2001-05-17 Thread solomon

Someone sent me the solution off the list, and since I'm sure it could help
other Mandrake 8.0 users, here it is:

On 17-May-2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> there is a rpm called
> kdebase-nsplugins-2.1.1-1mdk.i586.rpm for mandrake. look for something like
> that.
> 
>  - diego

The RPM was on the CD. Strange that it's not included in the default
installation of KDE or Konqueror (and I installed **MUCH MORE** than the default
installation).

In any case, thanks for all who helped or tried to help.


On 17-May-2001 Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> Well Ilya, I exchanged emails with Solomon - he says that he has installed 
> KDE from Mandrake 8 CD (ISO) and it didn't come with Netscape plug in support
> - which means that lesstif is missing..
> 
> On Friday 18 May 2001 02:33, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
>> /usr/lib/libkcm_nsplugin.so (the KDE Control Center module for Netscape
>> plugins) is provided by kdebase-libs on my Debian system. You might
>> look for something similar on RedHat.
 

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