MacOSX Lion
LilyPond 2.14.2 does not work with Lion. What to do? Thank you for answering Mario Bolognani Via Celimontana 15 I-00184 Roma Italia tel. studio: 06-77200380 cell: 348-3363833 fax: 06-233211272 email: mario.bologn...@uniroma1.it ma...@fastwebnet.it http://www.corsobolognani.altervista.org/ www.baroquemusic.it ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: italian list or forum
Good idea, I am interested. Mario Bolognani email: mario.bologn...@gmail.com www.baroquemusic.it > Il giorno 22 mag 2020, alle ore 13:54, Gianmaria Lari > ha scritto: > > Ciao Federico, > > [...] As I'm seeing more and more italians here (and also on Frescobaldi > mailing list), I think it's the moment to create a new italian > "community place". > Please let me know if you are interested. > > Interested. > No preference regarding Mailing list on gnu.org <http://gnu.org/> or google > groups. > > Ciao, g.
Re: italian list or forum
The french format looks more attractive. Best, Mario Mario Bolognani email: mario.bologn...@gmail.com www.baroquemusic.it > Il giorno 22 mag 2020, alle ore 20:48, Valentin Villenave > ha scritto: > > On 5/21/20, Federico Bruni wrote: >> What would you suggest to use? > > Hey Federico, > in case you end up opening a GNU mailing list, may I offer you some of > my CSS overrides? > > Before: > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > After: > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr > > I’ll let you judge which one looks more welcoming :-) > > Cheers! > -- V. >
problems with \tempo
I’m using LilyPomd 2.20 with Frescobaldi 3.1.3 on a MacBook M1 with MacOSX Monterey (last version). With \time 3)1 and \tempo \breve (or breve.) = xx the midi output seems not responding to \tempo changes. Any suggestion? Many thanks Mario Bolognani mario.bologn...@gmail.com
Re: problems with \tempo
Many thanks Knute,
using your snippet in this way:
theMusic = \relative {
\tempo "Largo" 4 = 50
c''4 c c c |
\tempo "Allegro" 2 = 200 … 400 … 600
c2 c c c |
}
nothing changes. The midi output of “Allegro” is not going progressively faster.
Mario
Mario Bolognani
mario.bologn...@gmail.com
> Il giorno 16 mar 2022, alle ore 15:46, Knute Snortum ha
> scritto:
>
> As always, a small, working example will help diagnose the problem and
> demonstrate to us what is going wrong. For instance, this snippet
> works fine for me:
>
> %%%
> \version "2.22.2"
>
> theMusic = \relative {
> \tempo "Largo" 4 = 50
> c''4 c c c |
> \tempo "Alegro" 4 = 120
> c4 c c c |
> }
>
> \score {
> \new Staff \theMusic
> \layout {}
> \midi {}
> }
> %%%
>
> --
> Knute Snortum
>
>
> --
> Knute Snortum
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 1:47 AM Jacques Menu wrote:
>>
>> Hello Mario,
>>
>> The \midi block is your friend:
>>
>> \book {
>> \score {
>><<
>>
>> \new Staff = "Part_POne_Staff_One"
>> \with {
>> }
>> <<
>>\context Voice = "Part_POne_Staff_One_Voice_One" <<
>> \Part_POne_Staff_One_Voice_One
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>>>
>>
>>\layout {
>> \context {
>>\Score
>>autoBeaming = ##f % to display tuplets brackets
>> }
>> \context {
>>\Voice
>> }
>>}
>>
>>\midi {
>> \tempo 16 = 360
>>}
>> }
>>
>> }
>>
>>
>> Le 16 mars 2022 à 05:08, Mario Bolognani a écrit
>> :
>>
>> I’m using LilyPomd 2.20 with Frescobaldi 3.1.3 on a MacBook M1 with MacOSX
>> Monterey (last version). With \time 3)1 and \tempo \breve (or breve.) = xx
>> the midi output seems not responding to \tempo changes. Any suggestion?
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>>
>> Mario Bolognani
>> mario.bologn...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
Re: 'baroque' time signatures
Any suggestion regarding this ? And what \tempo should be adopted in order to have a medium-fast midi output? \tempo \breve. = 100 or 200 or 300 seem not changing midi output. Many thanks for any suggestion. Mario Mario Bolognani mario.bolog...@gmail.com <mailto:mario.bolog...@gmail.com> baroquemusic.it <http://baroquemusic.it/> > Il giorno 21 mar 2022, alle ore 23:04, Michael Gerdau <mailto:m...@qata.de>> ha scritto: > > [what is the difference between \set Timing.measureLength = ... > and \set Score.measureLength = ... ] >> The Timing alias is given to contexts that manage the timing (measure >> length, subdivision, etc.). Usually, this is the Score context. However, if >> you move the Timing_translator to another context like Staff in order to get >> polymeter (in the upcoming version there will be a predefined >> \enablePolymeter command doing that behind the scenes), a \set for Timing >> becomes equivalent to \set Staff ... Thus, while using Timing is probably >> not very important for users who never typeset polymetric music, it is done >> in the documentation in order to account for all cases. > > Ah ok. I thought there must be a reason :) > > Thanks for explaining that. > > Kind regards, > Michael > -- > Michael Gerdau email: m...@qata.de <mailto:m...@qata.de> > GPG-keys available on request or at public keyserver > Mario Bolognani mario.bologn...@gmail.com
Re: 'baroque' time signatures
Here is my MWE (structure of lilypond coding regarding part of “Combattimento
di Tancredi e Clorinda” by Claudio Monteverdi):
\key do\major
\time 3/2
\set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 6 2)
\tempo \breve. = 70
s\breve.*20\break
\time 4/4
\set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 4 4)
\tempo 2 = 65
s1*35\break
\once \override Score.RehearsalMark.extra-offset = #'(+13 . -1)
\mark\markup\italic\column{ "Sinfonia"}
\key fa\major
s1*60\break
\once \override Score.RehearsalMark.extra-offset = #'(+15 . -1)
\mark\markup\italic\column{ "Principio della guerra"}
\key do\major
\time 3/2
\tempo \breve. = 70
\set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 6 2)
s\breve.*6
\time 4/4
\set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 4 4)
\tempo 2 = 60
s1*38\break
\time 3/2
\tempo \breve. = 70
\set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 6 2)
s\breve.*4
% and so on
\bar "||”
When I change \tempo in 3/2 time the speed is more or less the same...
Mario Bolognani
mario.bologn...@gmail.com
> Il giorno 22 mar 2022, alle ore 19:26, Michael Gerdau ha
> scritto:
>
> Hi Mario,
>
> please always include the list as well.
>
>> Sorry Michael for my ignorance, but what is the meaning of the acronym MWE?
>
> MWE == Minimum Working Example
>
> It means a piece of code as short as possible that just shows the faulty or
> suspicious behaviour.
>
> That greatly helps others to help you because they see and understand what
> you do and possibly what is wrong.
>
> Another side effect is that while creating the MWE you often come to a point
> where it starts to work which will give you a hint as to what was wrong in
> the first place.
>
>> In any case the performance of Monteverdi’s “Combattimento di Tancredi e
>> Clorinda” in 3/1 uses something like \breve. = 70… 80, but my impression is
>> that \tempo \breve = “something" is not a valid construct.
>
> I don't know the music you are typesetting but I have successfully used
> either of the following:
> \tempo \breve. = 100
> \tempo \breve. = 200
> \tempo \breve. = 300
> and they resulted in different speed upon playback.
>
> That's what I wrote in my previous email. When it does not work for you, then
> there may be something else that's wrong with your code but w/o knowing what
> you do nobody can tell for sure.
>
> Kind regards,
> Michael
>
> --
> Michael Gerdau email: m...@qata.de
> GPG-keys available on request or at public keyserver
Re: 'baroque' time signatures
Many thanks Michael for your comments. Unfortunately, due to my reluctance (and
perhaps inability) of using Port and Terminal, I am obliged to use \version
2.20.2 with Frescobaldi 3.1.3, which maybe are the cause of my midi problems.
Anyway, many thanks again for your help
Mario
Mario Bolognani
mario.bologn...@gmail.com
> Il giorno 22 mar 2022, alle ore 22:10, Michael Gerdau ha
> scritto:
>
>> Here is my MWE (structure of lilypond coding regarding part of
>> “Combattimento di Tancredi e Clorinda” by Claudio Monteverdi):
>
> MWE means I can take the code and compile it. And then it shows the problem.
>
> I tried to amend your code as follows:
> I surrounded it with:
> \version "2.23.5"
>
> \include "italiano.ly"
>
> music = {
> [here comes your code]
> }
>
> \score {
> \music
> \layout {}
> \midi {}
> }
>
> That compiles and creates empty music. Now what is the problem?
>
>> When I change \tempo in 3/2 time the speed is more or less the same...
>
> I have no way to test that as your code does not contain *ANY* music
> whatsoever. I already said, when I created a piece on my own what you
> verbally described worked just nicely.
>
> Please provide a WORKING piece of lilypond code that shows the problem.
> That means with EXACT steps as to how the problem can be seen. Claiming "I
> change the tempo and it has no effect" is not helpful. We need to see exactly
> how you change the tempo. Because IMO quite obviously you are doing something
> wrong. I just don't know what.
>
> Kind regards,
> Michael
> --
> Michael Gerdau email: m...@qata.de
> GPG-keys available on request or at public keyserver
Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 3.2
Dear Wilbert, many thanks for updating Frescobaldi but an inexperienced user like me gets lost into the tricky steps fo obtaining a .dmg package to install as in version 3.1.3. Sorry for my ignorance (and perhaps for refusing to get into excessive details for obtaining a powerful editor like Frescobaldi for publishing music). You may object like the old Girolamo Frescobaldi “Non senza fadiga si giunge al fine” (Not without effort we reach the end), but I would avoid too much effort if possible… Best wishes Mario Bolognani mario.bologn...@gmail.com > Il giorno 5 mag 2022, alle ore 07:40, Wilbert Berendsen ha > scritto: > > Dear Friends, > > Lots of people contributed to this new release of Frescobaldi 3.2, > which actually has been in the works for quite a long time. Thanks!! > Recently it became urgent to fix various issues that arose in > Frescobaldi (and many programs that use Python-Qt bindings) with Python > 3.10, where you no longer can give a floating point value to a function > that requires an integer. Python releases are so quick :-) > > So hopefully this new release[1] fixes those annoyances. But it brings > also some nice new features; see for an overview[2]: > > [1] https://github.com/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/releases/tag/v3.2 > [2] https://github.com/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/blob/v3.2/ChangeLog > > Note that there is a dependency change: the qpageview module, thus far > in frescobaldi_app/qpageview, is now, because of its generic nature, a > separate project at http://qpageview.org/ . This package needs to be > installed for Frescobaldi to work; it is used by the Music View and > other viewers inside Frescobaldi. Because of this, be sure to remove > Frescobaldi completely and then install qpageview and Frescobaldi, > otherwise it still finds the old qpageview inside the frescobaldi_app > folder. > > In the meantime I worked on two new Python packages: parce[3] and > quickly[4], which together will supersede python-ly. In the future they > will help Frescobaldi with an even more thorough musical understanding > of the LilyPond source text, making (probably) more interesting music > manipulations possible. > > [3] https://parce.info/ > [4] https://quick-ly.info/ > > Enjoy! > > -- > Wilbert Berendsen (www.wilbertberendsen.nl) >
Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 3.2
Many thanks Davide, I’ll waiting with patience the Frescobaldi 3.2 .dmg package... Best, Mario Mario Bolognani mario.bologn...@gmail.com > Il giorno 5 mag 2022, alle ore 15:31, Davide Liessi > ha scritto: > > Dear Mario, > > Il giorno gio 5 mag 2022 alle ore 15:25 Mario Bolognani > ha scritto: >> many thanks for updating Frescobaldi but an inexperienced user like me gets >> lost into the tricky steps fo obtaining a .dmg package to install as in >> version 3.1.3. > > the standalone .app bundle for Mac, distributed as .dmg package, has > not been prepared yet. > I'll try to do it soon, although there may be some difficulties (see > my answer to Omer Katzir > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2022-05/msg00065.html > a few minutes ago). > > Best wishes. > Davide
Expressive marks
Any idea on how to obtain this kind of expressive marks? Many thanks for any useful suggestion Mario Bolognani baroquemusic.it
Re: Expressive marks
Many thanks Richard for your suggestion. I’ll try to understand.
Best
Mario
Inviato da iPhone
> Il giorno 13 mag 2022, alle ore 14:58, Richard Shann
> ha scritto:
>
> On Fri, 2022-05-13 at 14:06 +0200, Stephan Schöll wrote:
>> I'm wondering if we need 340 lines of Scheme code or if we could /
>> why we can't use the TrillSpanner and just eliminate the "tr" prefix
>> and leave the wiggy line,
>
> yes, that's good if you want exactly that wiggley line - the 340 lines
> of scheme code let you control the amplitude and frequency of the
> wiggles (and even modulate these as the line progresses IIRC), which
> can be important when matching early printed scores.
>
> Richard
>
>
>> something based on (but not working since I don't understand Scheme
>> lists thoroughly):
>> \relative c'' {
>>\once \override TrillSpanner.bound-details = '((left (text
>> #
>>"scripts.trill")
>> (stencil-offset -0.5 . -1)
>> (padding . 0.5)
>> (attach-dir . 0))
>> (left-broken (end-on-note . #t))
>> (right))
>>
>>e8\startTrillSpan e c c s\stopTrillSpan
>> }
>> ... and simply replacing "scripts.trill" with an empty string or
>> void/null ...
>>
>> Am 13.05.2022 um 09:37 schrieb Richard Shann:
>>> On Fri, 2022-05-13 at 09:12 +0200, Mario Bolognani wrote:
>>>
>>> Any idea on how to obtain this kind of expressive marks?
>> There is a thread about this which I was involved in, the code that
>> resulted is here in Denemo's source LilyPond files:
>>
>> http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=denemo.git;a=blob;f=actions/lilypond/vibrato.ily;h=dadedd6859563a0bac0629b19ac729111ced29bd;hb=HEAD
>>
>>
>> from where you can pick it up and use it in raw LilyPond scores.
>>
>> Richard Shann
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
Re: Expressive marks
Thanks Xavier, it is a simpler proposal even if the result may not be
satisfactory…
Best
Mario Bolognani
Inviato da iPhone
> Il giorno 13 mag 2022, alle ore 10:14, Xavier Scheuer
> ha scritto:
>
>
> On Fri, 13 May 2022 at 09:25, Mario Bolognani
> wrote:
> >
> > Any idea on how to obtain this kind of expressive marks?
> >
> > Many thanks for any useful suggestion
>
> Hello,
>
> I would probably use a TrillSpanner without "tr." left text.
>
> \relative c'' {
> \override TrillSpanner.bound-details.left.text = #'()
> e8\startTrillSpan e c c\stopTrillSpan
> }
>
> Cheers,
> Xavier
>
> --
> Xavier Scheuer
>
64 bit
Dear developers, is there any simple way to run Frescobaldi+LilyPond on Catalina? Maybe in a not so delayed future? Your suggestions are for experienced users not for musicians with an amateur approach to the platform? Mario Bolognani ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re:64 bit
I am a LilyPond user on MacOsX and am anxiously waiting for a 64bit version of LilyPond, before installing Catalina. I am managing a baroque music site (baroque music.it) with many followers and at present I can’t evolve my transcription platform for this 64bit problem. Best wishes Mario Bolognani email: mario.bologn...@gmail.com www.baroquemusic.it
Re: Mac OS 10.15 Catalina
After having installed Catalina I tried to install Frescobaldi plus LilyPond (the 64bit version provided by Hans Åberg) but, while Frescobaldi 2.20 64bit apparently runs normally, I had no success with LilyPond… I am a musician not a developer so I’m not able to understand the reasons of this failure. So I am back to Mojave and the 32bit versions of Frescobaldi and LilyPond. Waiting for good news on the subject. Best, Mario Bolognani www.baroquemusic.it > Il giorno 15 nov 2019, alle ore 22:35, Allan Kinnaird > ha scritto: > > So here I am (as I see it) : > My current version of Lilypond is not going to work on my Mac if I upgrade to > Catalina (v10.15) because of an incomprehensible licence impasse between GNU > and Apple. > Hans Åberg has provided an installable package ( > https://www.et.byu.edu/~sorensen/lilypond-devel-2.19.83_2.mpkg > <https://www.et.byu.edu/~sorensen/lilypond-devel-2.19.83_2.mpkg> ) which runs > as 64-bit on Catalina. It appears that it has problems with convert-ly but is > otherwise OK. (And Frescobaldi users need to point Frescobaldi preferences > towards the right version of Lilypond.) > I have downloaded Hans’s file and tried to install it. Unfortunately the > installer blocked the process, requiring that the OS be 10.15 Catalina - I > have to go for Catalina before I can test for problems with it. > So, to continue using Lilypond, either I have to stay forever on v2.18.2 and > have my computer stay forever on OS 10.14, or just go for Catalina, run > Hans’s installer, and accept what disasters then ensue. (Hans seems a pretty > good guy, so with luck there won’t be many!) > Geronimo! > > >> On 14 Nov 2019, at 17:00, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org >> <mailto:lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org> wrote: >> >> Send lilypond-user mailing list submissions to >> lilypond-user@gnu.org <mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org> >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> lilypond-user-ow...@gnu.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of lilypond-user digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Mac OS 10.15 Catalina (Tim McNamara) >> 2. Re: Macro with (David Kastrup) >> 3. Re: Mac OS 10.15 Catalina (Hans Åberg) >> 4. Re: Re: Macro with pitches as parameters (Mats Bengtsson) >> 5. drawing a range reguardless of transposition (Sandro Santilli) >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 07:59:26 -0600 >> From: Tim McNamara >> To: lilypond-user >> Subject: Re: Mac OS 10.15 Catalina >> Message-ID: <7adb0dd2-f14d-4af2-8f84-8c81c0e58...@bitstream.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Frescobaldi itself does not generate sheet music. You need to install >> Lilypond also. In my experience with Catalina, Hans Aberg's .mkpg installs >> with a double click and works fine(except for convert-ly, apparently). >> >> Frescobaldi 3 does not work out of the box on the Mac; there are a half a >> dozen dependencies that have to be installed first. The 64-bit version of >> 2.20 does work well. I haven't gotten around to getting F3 running as >> obtaining and installing the dependencies on the Mac is kind of a nuisance >> due to how locked down MacOS is, unless one is using a package manager such >> as Homebrew, MacPorts, etc. I am not using one of those. >> >> >>> On Nov 14, 2019, at 3:20 AM, Jeremiah Reilly >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Carl, thanks for both tips. >>> >>> The Frescobaldi Downloads page states "Install a copy of Lilypond as well." >>> Not sure how that jives with Catalina. >>> >>> Sorry to be inept re packages and making from source. I am a musician, not >>> a developer. >>> >>> Your help much appreciated. >>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 4:34 PM Carl Sorensen wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Jeremiah Reilly >>>> Date: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 3:14 AM >>>> To: >>>> Subject: Mac OS 10.15 Catalina >>>> >>>> What is the status of running Lilypond under Mac os 10.15 Catalina? &
Re: Mac OS 10.15 Catalina
On a second attempt, following your very useful suggestions, I was successful. Catalina with Frescobaldi 2.20 and LilyPond-devel are now operating normally. Many thanks to all contributors Mario Bolognani www.baroquemusic.it > Il giorno 16 nov 2019, alle ore 10:43, Hans Åberg ha > scritto: > > >> On 16 Nov 2019, at 00:09, Mario Bolognani wrote: >> >> After having installed Catalina I tried to install Frescobaldi plus LilyPond >> (the 64bit version provided by Hans Åberg) but, while Frescobaldi 2.20 >> 64bit apparently runs normally, I had no success with LilyPond… I am a >> musician not a developer so I’m not able to understand the reasons of this >> failure. > > Did you try this: > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2019-11/msg00295.html > >> So I am back to Mojave and the 32bit versions of Frescobaldi and LilyPond. >> Waiting for good news on the subject. > > Just waiting may not help. :-) > >
vertical positioning of \mark\markup "blah blah"
How can the vertical positioning of a \mark\markup statement be controlled? Many thanks for all suggestions. Mario Bolognani
chord/arpeggio
How is possible to connect all notes of a chord with \arpeggio? Many thanks for your suggestions. or Mario Bolognani email: mario.bologn...@gmail.com www.baroquemusic.it
Re: chord/arpeggio
OK, it works… many thanks
Mario
Mario Bolognani
email: mario.bologn...@gmail.com
www.baroquemusic.it
> Il giorno 2 dic 2019, alle ore 11:34, Leo Correia de Verdier
> ha scritto:
>
> This following code works for me, but if you need to have a single note work
> as a chord (it has happened to me in other circumstances) you can just
> include it in angle brackets, like 8 .
>
> \version "2.19.82"
>
> \new Staff \with {
> \consists "Span_arpeggio_engraver"
> }
> {
> \set Staff.connectArpeggios = ##t
> \clef bass
> <<
> { 4 \arpeggio ^\markup \italic "ten." c'!16 b \prall a gis }
> \\
> { d8 \arpeggio \ff s s4 }
>>>
> }
>
>> 1 dec. 2019 kl. 19:05 skrev Mario Bolognani :
>>
>> Thanks Leo, but \arpeggio is not working with a single note of a chord…
>>
>> Mario Bolognani
>> email: mario.bologn...@gmail.com
>> www.baroquemusic.it
>>
>>
>>
>>> Il giorno 1 dic 2019, alle ore 18:36, Leo Correia de Verdier
>>> ha scritto:
>>>
>>> You can include the Span_arpeggio_engraver in the staff you’re writing, set
>>> Staff.connectArpeggios = ##t and write arpeggios in all voices it should
>>> include. See
>>> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-as-lines#arpeggio
>>>
>>> 1 dec. 2019 kl. 18:25 skrev Mario Bolognani :
>>>
>>>> How is possible to connect all notes of a chord with \arpeggio?
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks for your suggestions.
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mario Bolognani
>>>> email: mario.bologn...@gmail.com
>>>> www.baroquemusic.it
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
problems with release 2.24 on iMac M1 with Ventura 13.0.1
Using LilyPond 2.24.0 with Frescobaldi 3.1.3 on iMac M1 Ventura 13.0.1, I
discovered
some incompatibilities:
1) convert.ly <http://convert.ly/> not operating
2) \numericTimeSignature in \incipit not operating: “\incipit { \clef soprano
\key do\major\time 3/2\numericTimeSignature r2.^\markup
\right-align"[Soprano]”}”
3) \set Score.skipTypesetting = ##t gives error
Any idea for solving these problems?
Many thanks for any useful suggestion
Mario Bolognani
mario.bologn...@gmail.com
Re: problems with release 2.24 on iMac M1 with Ventura 13.0.1
Many thanks Jean,
useful suggestions, but , possibly for my ignorance of technicalities,
convert.ly is still not working.
Regarding \numericTimeSignature in \incipit I’m using it with baroque music
with clefs not currently in use for voice staffs, not in a mensural context.
This feature was working correctly with the 2.20 version.
Last: the \set Score.skipTypesetting feature gives error in a first instance,
but after a first attempt, is working correctly as in the previous versions.
Best wishes and thanks again
Mario
Mario Bolognani
mario.bologn...@gmail.com
> Il giorno 30 dic 2022, alle ore 14:39, Jean Abou Samra
> ha scritto:
>
> Le 30/12/2022 à 14:24, Mario Bolognani a écrit :
>> Using LilyPond 2.24.0 with Frescobaldi 3.1.3 on iMac M1 Ventura 13.0.1, I
>> discovered
>> some incompatibilities:
>>
>> 1) convert.ly <http://convert.ly> not operating
>
>
> I think you're running into a Frescobaldi problem, not a LilyPond problem. See
>
> https://github.com/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/issues/1492
>
>
>> 2) \numericTimeSignature in \incipit not operating: “\incipit { \clef
>> soprano \key do\major\time 3/2\numericTimeSignature r2.^\markup
>> \right-align"[Soprano]”}”
>
>
> This is mentioned in the "Known issues and warnings" at the end of this
> section:
>
> https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/notation/displaying-rhythms#time-signature
>
> (\incipit uses MensuralStaff internally).
>
> You will find a solution there.
>
> We actually noticed that this would be a change in behavior in 2.24, but
> thought it was unlikely people would notice because nobody would use numeric
> time signatures in a MensuralStaff. Well…
>
>
>> 3) \set Score.skipTypesetting = ##t gives error
>
>
> This is impossible to diagnose without the context of your score.
>
> https://lilypond.org/tiny-examples.html
>
> Best,
> Jean
>
Re: problems with release 2.24 on iMac M1 with Ventura 13.0.1
Hi Lukas,
this is the example where I’m using \numericTimeSignature
\new Staff <<
\set Staff.instrumentName = \markup \center-column{""}
\incipit { \clef soprano \key do\major\time
3/2\numericTimeSignature r2.^\markup \right-align"[Soprano]"}
\clef violin
\set Staff.midiInstrument = #"voice oohs"
\IIIsoprano
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = "sop"
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "sovrana" \IIItesto
>>
Mario
Mario Bolognani
mario.bologn...@gmail.com
> Il giorno 30 dic 2022, alle ore 16:46, Lukas-Fabian Moser ha
> scritto:
>
> Hi Mario,
>> Regarding \numericTimeSignature in \incipit I’m using it with baroque music
>> with clefs not currently in use for voice staffs, not in a mensural context.
>> This feature was working correctly with the 2.20 version.
> I'm the one responsible for the change in \numericTimeSignature, and as far
> as I can recall, the interaction with incipits was not investigated at that
> time, indeed.
>
> Can you please provide an example ly file?
>
> Lukas
>
Re: problems with release 2.24 on iMac M1 with Ventura 13.0.1
Thanks a lot Lukas,
overriding mensural staff is an optimal solution, but have a look in future to
baroque music transcriptors, like me…
Best,
Mario
Mario Bolognani
mario.bologn...@gmail.com
> Il giorno 30 dic 2022, alle ore 18:05, Lukas-Fabian Moser ha
> scritto:
>
> Hi Mario,
>
> Am 30.12.22 um 17:37 schrieb Mario Bolognani:
>> Hi Lukas,
>>
>> this is the example where I’m using \numericTimeSignature
>>
>> \new Staff <<
>> \set Staff.instrumentName = \markup \center-column{""}
>> \incipit { \clef soprano \key do\major\time
>> 3/2\numericTimeSignature r2.^\markup \right-align"[Soprano]"}
>> \clef violin
>> \set Staff.midiInstrument = #"voice oohs"
>> \IIIsoprano
>> \set Staff.shortInstrumentName = "sop"
>> \new Lyrics \lyricsto "sovrana" \IIItesto
>> >>
>
> Please always aim for short-yet-compilable examples like:
>
> \version "2.24.0"
>
> \language italiano
>
> \new Staff \with {
> instrumentName = ""
> } <<
> \incipit {
> \clef soprano
> \key do\major
> \numericTimeSignature
> \time 3/2
> r2.}
> la4
> >>
>
> At any rate: Yes, this is a complicated case. We noted that the change to
> \numericTimeSignature (which I made in order to make it work on the
> score-wide timing) stops it from working in MensuralStaff contexts, and
> incipits internally use a MensuralStaff, as Jean explained.
>
> You can replace \numericTimeSignature by \override
> MensuralStaff.TimeSignature.style = #'numbered, or - if you want to have it
> for your whole score - you can also do:
>
> \layout {
> \context {
> \MensuralStaff
> \numericTimeSignature
> }
> }
>
> I think the proper fix would be to make \incipit configurable: It's not
> self-evident to me that incipits should always be created in mensural style
> (but it is of course a sensible default, given the editing tradition of
> Renaissance music.)
>
> Lukas
Re: problems with release 2.24 on iMac M1 with Ventura 13.0.1
Thanks a lot Jean, apparently with Terminal convert.ly operates correctly, but of course this is not a practical procedure for frequent use. Anyway it is best then nothing… Thanks again Mario Mario Bolognani mario.bologn...@gmail.com > Il giorno 6 gen 2023, alle ore 18:31, Jean Abou Samra ha > scritto: > > > > Le 30/12/2022 à 17:00, Mario Bolognani a écrit : >> Ok, I’ll try to explain what I have done for convert.ly: >> >> First, following your suggestion, I forced the use of the tools’ #! lines: >> >> >> >> Then in Frescobaldi after having used the command convert.ly, this was the >> result: >> >> >> >> And, after this Fatal Phyton error… what I have to do? >> > > > > Sorry for forgetting to reply here. Well, Frescobaldi on macOS is a > complicated story. First, have you tried running convert-ly on the terminal? > You should open the terminal application and paste this command: > > "/Users/mariobol/Library/CloudStorage/Dropbox/ M U S I C > A/lilypond-2.24.0/bin/convert-ly" /Users/mariobol/Desktop/file.ly > > assuming that your file is file.ly in your Desktop folder, you should the > second part to match the actual location. > > See if that works. >
Re: problems with release 2.24 on iMac M1 with Ventura 13.0.1
Yes, you’re right Jean, using Scores in Desktop you can update all your files in batch mode. One more question: the updated files remain in Terminal and the files in Scores are not updated… Possibly another Terminal command is necessary? Many thanks for your very useful suggestions Mario Mario Bolognani mario.bologn...@gmail.com > Il giorno 7 gen 2023, alle ore 00:46, Jean Abou Samra ha > scritto: > > Le 06/01/2023 à 22:22, Mario Bolognani a écrit : >> Thanks a lot Jean, apparently with Terminal convert.ly operates correctly, >> but of course this is not a practical procedure for frequent use. > > > > If you start using the command line more, you will find that it is > actually incredibly practical for more than you would have imagined. > > For example, if you want to do a batch upgrade of all .ly files in > a directory, say "Scores" on your desktop, while making backups of > the unconverted sources just in case, it is as easy as > > "/Users/mariobol/Library/CloudStorage/Dropbox/ M U S I C > A/lilypond-2.24.0/bin/convert-ly" /Users/mariobol/Desktop/Scores/*.ly > > Not to say that I wouldn't like Frescobaldi to work better on macOS, > of course. > > Best, > Jean >
Re: problems with release 2.24 on iMac M1 with Ventura 13.0.1
Sorry, using: "/Users/mariobol/Library/CloudStorage/Dropbox/ M U S I C A/lilypond-2.24.0/bin/convert-ly" -e /Users/mariobol/Desktop/Scores/*.ly the updated files are in Scores! Best, Mario Mario Bolognani mario.bologn...@gmail.com > Il giorno 7 gen 2023, alle ore 16:20, Mario Bolognani > ha scritto: > > Yes, you’re right Jean, > > using Scores in Desktop you can update all your files in batch mode. One more > question: the updated files remain in Terminal and the files in Scores are > not updated… Possibly another Terminal command is necessary? > > Many thanks for your very useful suggestions > > Mario > > Mario Bolognani > mario.bologn...@gmail.com > > > >> Il giorno 7 gen 2023, alle ore 00:46, Jean Abou Samra >> ha scritto: >> >> Le 06/01/2023 à 22:22, Mario Bolognani a écrit : >>> Thanks a lot Jean, apparently with Terminal convert.ly operates correctly, >>> but of course this is not a practical procedure for frequent use. >> >> >> >> If you start using the command line more, you will find that it is >> actually incredibly practical for more than you would have imagined. >> >> For example, if you want to do a batch upgrade of all .ly files in >> a directory, say "Scores" on your desktop, while making backups of >> the unconverted sources just in case, it is as easy as >> >> "/Users/mariobol/Library/CloudStorage/Dropbox/ M U S I C >> A/lilypond-2.24.0/bin/convert-ly" /Users/mariobol/Desktop/Scores/*.ly >> >> Not to say that I wouldn't like Frescobaldi to work better on macOS, >> of course. >> >> Best, >> Jean >> >
suggestion fo slur?
Hello, any suggestion for this kind of slur? Many thanks for any good idea...  Mario Bolognani mario.bologn...@gmail.com
Re: suggestion for slur?
> \override TrillSpanner.bound-details.left.text = #'() > \startTrillSpan > works for 2.24 This is an acceptable result :  but I would like the have the wavy line under the notes not above…. Mario Bolognani mario.bologn...@gmail.com > Il giorno 24 nov 2023, alle ore 19:06, Shane Brandes > ha scritto: > > > regards, > > Shane > > On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 12:24 PM Mario Bolognani <mailto:mario.bologn...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Hello, >> >> any suggestion for this kind of slur? Many thanks for any good idea... >> >> >> >> >> Mario Bolognani >> mario.bologn...@gmail.com <mailto:mario.bologn...@gmail.com> >> >> >>
