Re: hideNotes in tablature
Hello, On 15 April 2012 07:13, Federico Bruni wrote: > Il 14/04/2012 21:09, James ha scritto: > >> Hello, >> >> On 14 April 2012 15:47, Marc Hohl wrote: >>> >>> Am 14.04.2012 11:57, schrieb Federico Bruni: Hi, I started using version 2.13.56 and I realized that this bug seems fixed: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1459 >> >> >> I'll verify that if no one else has. I am building a latest version at >> the moment of 2.15.x >> > > I've tested it now on latest version of lilypond/translation branch. > It works fine. Right so Issue 1459 is fixed? > > >> However reading the tracker again just now, are the comments from this >> morning a 'new' issue or an 'enhancement' if so, we need a new >> tracker. >> >> Could Federico or Marc clarify please? >> > > It's an enhancement, which has already been discussed before (see links I > pasted in the tracker) but never recorded in the tracker. You don't really make it easy for the bug squad - who are generally non-technical people who have enough to do without having to pick apart/read through long threads, threads I might add that have never been reported to the bug list (or dev list - that was me). Federico, it seems you have the ability (and knowledge) to create a tracker yourself so I suggest that if issue 1459 is fixed you change the label to fixed - someone else will verify - and then create a new tracker for the enhancement - whatever it is. Else whoever comes back to the old tracker has to puzzle their way through and often this puts people off (unless you yourself are going to work and create the patch). > > If the change is accepted, the following snippet should be removed (I > think): > http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=633 Add this to the same (new?) Tracker as well. We're desperately trying to make it as easy as possible for the bug squad (and developers) to workout what a tracker is for and if/when it is fixed and more importantly how to know what they are looking at. I hope you understand. james ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: hideNotes in tablature
Il 15/04/2012 11:00, James ha scritto: Federico, it seems you have the ability (and knowledge) to create a tracker yourself so I suggest that if issue 1459 is fixed you change the label to fixed - someone else will verify - and then create a new tracker for the enhancement - whatever it is. Else whoever comes back to the old tracker has to puzzle their way through and often this puts people off (unless you yourself are going to work and create the patch). Yes, issue 1459 is fixed. How can I change the label to fixed in the tracker? The patch itself is very easy and I could create it, but I think that I'd better just create the issue in the tracker. Here it is: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2480 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: advanced (?) instrumentname setting
Yes, thank you Hans. I did * \override MultiMeasureRest #'staff-position = #-0.05* This looks pretty good and it will do. Although I still feel as if the correct positioning (with a small horizontal line) will look more logical and elegant. But I remain with my main issue: *- How do I add text which is aligned with certain barlines? This is quite common for percussion notation to indicate which line represents which (part of an) instrument. In my case: which part of a gong to strike (center, mid or edge).* Anyone got a clue where to start looking? I don't mind doing some research: just can't seem to find a starting point. Thank you and all the best, Gagi ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: advanced (?) instrumentname setting
You can centre text above a bar line using a rehearsal mark; see http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/bars#rehearsal-marks As to the issue with the rest: it seems to me that lilypond is doing the right thing here: a rest _is_ just the rectangle: the line comes from a ledger line. Removing some of the lines from the score prevents this appearance from happening. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Gagi Petrovic To: Hans Aikema Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 11:35 AM Subject: Re: advanced (?) instrumentname setting Yes, thank you Hans. I did \override MultiMeasureRest #'staff-position = #-0.05 This looks pretty good and it will do. Although I still feel as if the correct positioning (with a small horizontal line) will look more logical and elegant. But I remain with my main issue: - How do I add text which is aligned with certain barlines? This is quite common for percussion notation to indicate which line represents which (part of an) instrument. In my case: which part of a gong to strike (center, mid or edge). Anyone got a clue where to start looking? I don't mind doing some research: just can't seem to find a starting point. Thank you and all the best, Gagi -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: advanced (?) instrumentname setting
Oh sorry, I didn't mean barline, but staffline. For example: I want the upper line of the staff to represent the *edge*, etc. *e. ---* *m.* On 15 April 2012 12:49, Phil Holmes wrote: > ** > You can centre text above a bar line using a rehearsal mark; see > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/bars#rehearsal-marks > > As to the issue with the rest: it seems to me that lilypond is doing the > right thing here: a rest _is_ just the rectangle: the line comes from a > ledger line. Removing some of the lines from the score prevents this > appearance from happening. > > -- > Phil Holmes > > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Gagi Petrovic > *To:* Hans Aikema > *Cc:* lilypond-user@gnu.org > *Sent:* Sunday, April 15, 2012 11:35 AM > *Subject:* Re: advanced (?) instrumentname setting > > Yes, thank you Hans. I did > > * \override MultiMeasureRest #'staff-position = #-0.05* > > This looks pretty good and it will do. Although I still feel as if the > correct positioning (with a small horizontal line) will look more logical > and elegant. > > But I remain with my main issue: > > *- How do I add text which is aligned with certain barlines? This is > quite common for percussion notation to indicate which line represents > which (part of an) instrument. In my case: which part of a gong to strike > (center, mid or edge).* > > Anyone got a clue where to start looking? I don't mind doing some > research: just can't seem to find a starting point. Thank you and all the > best, > Gagi > > -- > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > -- +31 6 1259 8681 gagipetrovic.nl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: advanced (?) instrumentname setting
oops, misclicked on "send". Sorry. I'm looking for something like this, where the "---" are the three lines of my percussive staff: *e. * *m. * *c. * This is quite common in percussive notation, that's why I find it odd I can't seem to find a way of doing this. Should be very simple, I'd think. And about the rest you are somewhat right Phil, but I think adding the horizontal line on top of the rest enhances the clearity and readability: in that way it cannot be mistaken by a half rest where the rectangle lies on top of a horizonal line (instead of hanging from it). Cheers, Gagi On 15 April 2012 13:07, Gagi Petrovic wrote: > Oh sorry, I didn't mean barline, but staffline. For example: I want the > upper line of the staff to represent the *edge*, etc. > > *e. ---* > *m.* > > > On 15 April 2012 12:49, Phil Holmes wrote: > >> ** >> You can centre text above a bar line using a rehearsal mark; see >> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/bars#rehearsal-marks >> >> As to the issue with the rest: it seems to me that lilypond is doing the >> right thing here: a rest _is_ just the rectangle: the line comes from a >> ledger line. Removing some of the lines from the score prevents this >> appearance from happening. >> >> -- >> Phil Holmes >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> *From:* Gagi Petrovic >> *To:* Hans Aikema >> *Cc:* lilypond-user@gnu.org >> *Sent:* Sunday, April 15, 2012 11:35 AM >> *Subject:* Re: advanced (?) instrumentname setting >> >> Yes, thank you Hans. I did >> >> * \override MultiMeasureRest #'staff-position = #-0.05* >> >> This looks pretty good and it will do. Although I still feel as if the >> correct positioning (with a small horizontal line) will look more logical >> and elegant. >> >> But I remain with my main issue: >> >> *- How do I add text which is aligned with certain barlines? This is >> quite common for percussion notation to indicate which line represents >> which (part of an) instrument. In my case: which part of a gong to strike >> (center, mid or edge).* >> >> Anyone got a clue where to start looking? I don't mind doing some >> research: just can't seem to find a starting point. Thank you and all the >> best, >> Gagi >> >> -- >> >> ___ >> lilypond-user mailing list >> lilypond-user@gnu.org >> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user >> >> > > > -- > +31 6 1259 8681 > gagipetrovic.nl > > -- +31 6 1259 8681 gagipetrovic.nl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: hideNotes in tablature
Il 15/04/2012 12:06, Federico Bruni ha scritto: Yes, issue 1459 is fixed. How can I change the label to fixed in the tracker? I guess I can't: "Only project owners and committers can edit issue metadata. These users see additional fields when entering a new issue or adding a comment. The drop-down auto-complete menu for each field will help you enter commonly used values. However, for the labels, you are free to enter new or uncommon labels simply by typing them." http://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/IssueTrackerFAQ#Edit_issue_labels_&_metadata Can you add me to the members? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Proper Understanding of Y-extent sought
Dear list Preface (go down for actual question): --- I am still struggling with moving my dynamics around. I want to get rid of all those extra-offsets, after you told me that it’s the wrong approach. So I dug into the docs and lsr again, and found out about setting Y-extent so that lilypond thinks that the dynamic mark takes up no vertical space. However, that’s overshooting the target. All I’m trying to achieve is to move the mark around and then let lilypond do the layouting again. The goal is to minimise the staff’s extent by putting dynamic marks next to its note, so they don’t push out the lyrics so much. Actual question: --- So instead of hoping to find a snippet on the interwebs for each single case and playing with the numbers without knowing why they behave as they do, I would like to understand what they actually mean. All the IR says about Y-extent is "hardcoded extent in Y direction". So what exactly do those two numbers denote? Is it minimum/maximum? Extent below/above baseline? Offset/size? A real life example of my current work: Just by coincidence I found the ideal figures for the attached snippet (the forte mark under the \tempo text), but only through poking in the dark. Now that I’ve found them and trying numbers just slightly off, I’m still puzzled. As always, I appreciate your insight. :-) PS.: Is it correct that the stems of Elias’s tied halves are so long? -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' Please do not use my email addresses within any Facebook service. The problem with FORTRAN jokes is that they never fit into a single li \version "2.14.2" \include "deutsch.ly" \relative c { % setup \autoBeamOff \dynamicUp \set Score.skipBars = ##t \key es \major % small Solo insert \set fontSize = #-4 \override Stem #'length-fraction = #(magstep -4) \clef "bass" R1 * 4^\markup\bold{Elias} es8\f es ges b es2~ \key g \major es r % now choir music \normalsize \override Stem #'length-fraction = #(magstep 1) \clef "G_8" \tempo "Allegro con fuoco" 4 = 152 r4 r8. \once \override DynamicText #'Y-offset = #-1 \once \override DynamicText #'Y-extent = #'(1 . 1.5) a,16\f a8. a16 a8. a16 dis2 r } \addlyrics { \override LyricText #'font-size = #-2 sen -- de sie her -- ab! __ \revert LyricText #'font-size Das Feu -- er fiel her -- ab, } <> pgp6L0KFiGnAB.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: hideNotes in tablature
- Original Message - From: "Federico Bruni" To: "James" Cc: "Devel" ; Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 2:13 PM Subject: Re: hideNotes in tablature Il 15/04/2012 12:06, Federico Bruni ha scritto: Yes, issue 1459 is fixed. How can I change the label to fixed in the tracker? I guess I can't: "Only project owners and committers can edit issue metadata. These users see additional fields when entering a new issue or adding a comment. The drop-down auto-complete menu for each field will help you enter commonly used values. However, for the labels, you are free to enter new or uncommon labels simply by typing them." http://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/IssueTrackerFAQ#Edit_issue_labels_&_metadata Can you add me to the members? Done. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Proper Understanding of Y-extent sought
Frank Steinmetzger wrote Sunday, April 15, 2012 2:14 PM So instead of hoping to find a snippet on the interwebs for each single case and playing with the numbers without knowing why they behave as they do, I would like to understand what they actually mean. All the IR says about Y-extent is "hardcoded extent in Y direction". So what exactly do those two numbers denote? Is it minimum/maximum? Extent below/above baseline? Offset/size? See http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/aligning-objects or the same section in the docs for 2.15. This gets you started. The next question is, "What is the reference point?", to which there is no universal answer which applies to all grobs. Trial and error seems to be the best approach. Sorry. Trevor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
ottava text and offset
Hi all, How can I make the "ottava" text similar to that: http://i44.tinypic.com/14vpgud.png (note the "big fat 8 " and the smaller "va") In addition, how can I move the ottava text+bracket so that the X position of the note head is exactly placed where the number 8 finishes? (note the red segment in the above image) thanks very much, regards, Paolo ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
parenthesize a dotted note
Hello, has this bug been fixed in lilypond 2.15.xx ? http://old.nabble.com/Fix-155%3A-parentheses-include-accidentals-and-dots.-(issue-5047048)-td32485933.html If so, which Lilypond version could I use? Artenatively, how can I fix that without patching and recompiling the source code? thanks all, Paolo ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: parenthesize a dotted note
Il 15/04/2012 16:26, Paolo Prete ha scritto: has this bug been fixed in lilypond 2.15.xx ? http://old.nabble.com/Fix-155%3A-parentheses-include-accidentals-and-dots.-(issue-5047048)-td32485933.html in the tracker it's labeled as patch-abandoned: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=155 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: advanced (?) instrumentname setting
Gagi, On 15 April 2012 12:15, Gagi Petrovic wrote: > oops, misclicked on "send". Sorry. > > I'm looking for something like this, where the "---" are the three lines > of my percussive staff: > > e. > m. > c. > > This is quite common in percussive notation, that's why I find it odd I > can't seem to find a way of doing this. Should be very simple, I'd think. Unless I am mistaking what you are trying to do, the best approach would be possibly to use a staff group, such that each '-' in your example is a system of music and then you can add an instrument name (as you would normally) for each instance. http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/writing-parts#instrument-names I don't use 'drumstaff' personally but I guess that your example would just be three of those each with their own instrument name all held together in a 'staff group'. Does that make sense? James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: parenthesize a dotted note
Hello, On 15 April 2012 15:37, Federico Bruni wrote: > Il 15/04/2012 16:26, Paolo Prete ha scritto: > >> has this bug been fixed in lilypond 2.15.xx ? >> >> >> http://old.nabble.com/Fix-155%3A-parentheses-include-accidentals-and-dots.-(issue-5047048)-td32485933.html > > > in the tracker it's labeled as patch-abandoned: > http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=155 There are also a variety of snippets if you need a solution http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Search?q=parentheses James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Proper Understanding of Y-extent sought
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Dear list > > Preface (go down for actual question): > --- > I am still struggling with moving my dynamics around. I want to get rid of > all those extra-offsets, after you told me that it’s the wrong approach. So I > dug into the docs and lsr again, and found out about setting Y-extent so that > lilypond thinks that the dynamic mark takes up no vertical space. > > However, that’s overshooting the target. All I’m trying to achieve is to move > the mark around and then let lilypond do the layouting again. The goal is to > minimise the staff’s extent by putting dynamic marks next to its note, so they > don’t push out the lyrics so much. Since half a year i'm thinking about adding this to LilyPond. Eh... > Actual question: > --- > So instead of hoping to find a snippet on the interwebs for each single case > and playing with the numbers without knowing why they behave as they do, I > would like to understand what they actually mean. All the IR says about > Y-extent is "hardcoded extent in Y direction". > > So what exactly do those two numbers denote? > Is it minimum/maximum? Extent below/above baseline? Offset/size? Y-extent is vertical size of the object. Take treble clef for example: it's "reference point" is the middle of the main loop (on 2nd staff line counting from the bottom). It's Y-extent is something like '(-2.5 . 4.5) meaning that it's bottom is 2.5 staffspace below that reference point and it's top is 4.5 ss above it. Y-offset is the distance between object's reference point and the reference point to which it is attached, and it doesn't have to be 0 by default. Compile these examples: { \override Staff.Clef #'Y-offset = #1 a'4 } { \override Staff.Clef #'Y-offset = #0 a'4 } { \override Staff.Clef #'Y-offset = #-1 a'4 } As you can see, Y-offset = -1 gives the normal vertical position of treble clef. We can deduce from this that the reference point from which the distance is measured is middle staff line. > PS.: Is it correct that the stems of Elias’s tied halves are so long? Yes. However, after the cue notes end, the font-size is wrong (it's too small). hope this helps, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Tie question.
Greetings All, I am attempting to tie two notes of an arpeggiated chord into the chord proper. However, one of the ties appears more as a tiny dot rather than a curve. Can anyone explain the reason for this and offer a solution? Please find the code below. Many thanks. Hwaen Ch'uqi \version "2.14.2" \score{ \new Staff{ \key f \major \time 2/4 \clef treble \relative{ \tieDown \set tieWaitForNote = ##t \grace {cis16[ d~ g~]} 2 } } \layout{ } } ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Tie question.
Am 16. April 2012 00:36 schrieb Hwaen Ch'uqi : > Greetings All, > I am attempting to tie two notes of an arpeggiated chord into the > chord proper. However, one of the ties appears more as a tiny dot > rather than a curve. Can anyone explain the reason for this and offer > a solution? Please find the code below. > Many thanks. > Hwaen Ch'uqi > > \version "2.14.2" > > \score{ > \new Staff{ > \key f \major \time 2/4 \clef treble \relative{ > \tieDown > \set tieWaitForNote = ##t > \grace {cis16[ d~ g~]} 2 > } > } > \layout{ > } > } > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Hi, try: \override Tie #'minimum-length = #3 HTH, Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Tie question.
On 16 April 2012 00:36, Hwaen Ch'uqi wrote: > Greetings All, > I am attempting to tie two notes of an arpeggiated chord into the > chord proper. However, one of the ties appears more as a tiny dot > rather than a curve. Can anyone explain the reason for this and offer > a solution? Please find the code below. > Many thanks. Hi, I don't know the reason but one solution would be to use something like \override Tie #'minimum-length = #2 Cheers, Xavier -- Xavier Scheuer ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Proper Understanding of Y-extent sought
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 05:27:55PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: > > Actual question: > > --- > > So instead of hoping to find a snippet on the interwebs for each single case > > and playing with the numbers without knowing why they behave as they do, I > > would like to understand what they actually mean. All the IR says about > > Y-extent is "hardcoded extent in Y direction". > > > > So what exactly do those two numbers denote? > > Is it minimum/maximum? Extent below/above baseline? Offset/size? > > Y-extent is vertical size of the object. […] It's Y-extent is something > like '(-2.5 . 4.5) meaning that it's bottom is 2.5 staffspace below that > reference point and it's top is 4.5 ss above it. > Y-offset is the distance between object's reference point and the reference > point to which it is attached, and it doesn't have to be 0 by default. […] > > PS.: Is it correct that the stems of Elias’s tied halves are so long? > Yes. > However, after the cue notes end, the font-size is wrong (it's too small). Hm? The Solo part is supposed to be small. This score contains only the tenor staff of the choir parts. As such, the solo inserts shall only be a guide for the tenor’s entries. After the solo, all size changes are reverted. > hope this helps, > Janek Indeed, that was very helpful, thanks a lot. I shall save this text in my own docs+notes folder for later reference. In fact, I would like to propose adding this to the docs at some place, so others can find it, too. I guess the best place would be NR Appendix A.15, Layout properties → Y-extent. PS.: “It's” is the short form of “it is”. ;-) -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' Please do not use my email addresses within any Facebook service. The problem with HTML/CSS jokes: everyone understands them differently. pgpb9tUdQ3eMG.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Tie question.
On 4/15/12, Xavier Scheuer wrote: > On 16 April 2012 00:36, Hwaen Ch'uqi wrote: >> Greetings All, >> I am attempting to tie two notes of an arpeggiated chord into the >> chord proper. However, one of the ties appears more as a tiny dot >> rather than a curve. Can anyone explain the reason for this and offer >> a solution? Please find the code below. >> Many thanks. > > Hi, > > I don't know the reason but one solution would be to use something like > > \override Tie #'minimum-length = #2 > > Cheers, > Xavier > > -- > Xavier Scheuer > Greetings Again, Many thanks, Thomas and Xavier. I have tried the solution but to no avail. I have noticed that, when the same passage is transposed a step, the smaller tie is drawn correctly as a curve. There seems to be a conflict with the presence of the staff line and the tie. Below is my code again, this time showing the successful transposition first, followed by the original example without and with the adjustment to minimum-length. Thank you in advance for any more help. Hwaen Ch'uqi \version "2.14.2" \score{ \new Staff{ \key f \major \time 2/4 \clef treble \relative{ \tieDown \set tieWaitForNote = ##t \grace {dis16[ e~ a~]} 2 \grace {cis,16[ d~ g~]} 2 \once \override Tie #'minimum-length = #3 \grace {cis,16[ d~ g~]} 2 } } \layout{ } } ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Tie question.
On 16/04/12 12:43, Hwaen Ch'uqi wrote: On 4/15/12, Xavier Scheuer wrote: On 16 April 2012 00:36, Hwaen Ch'uqi wrote: Greetings All, I am attempting to tie two notes of an arpeggiated chord into the chord proper. However, one of the ties appears more as a tiny dot rather than a curve. Can anyone explain the reason for this and offer a solution? Please find the code below. Many thanks. Hi, I don't know the reason but one solution would be to use something like \override Tie #'minimum-length = #2 Cheers, Xavier -- Xavier Scheuer Greetings Again, Many thanks, Thomas and Xavier. I have tried the solution but to no avail. I have noticed that, when the same passage is transposed a step, the smaller tie is drawn correctly as a curve. There seems to be a conflict with the presence of the staff line and the tie. Below is my code again, this time showing the successful transposition first, followed by the original example without and with the adjustment to minimum-length. Thank you in advance for any more help. Hwaen Ch'uqi \version "2.14.2" \score{ \new Staff{ \key f \major \time 2/4 \clef treble \relative{ \tieDown \set tieWaitForNote = ##t \grace {dis16[ e~ a~]}2 \grace {cis,16[ d~ g~]}2 \once \override Tie #'minimum-length = #3 \grace {cis,16[ d~ g~]}2 } } \layout{ } } Either move the \once \override to immediately before the g~ (because that is the tie for which you want to set a minimum length), or remove the \once from the override of the Tie length: \version "2.14.2" \score{ \new Staff{ \key f \major \time 2/4 \clef treble \relative{ \tieDown \set tieWaitForNote = ##t \grace {dis16[ e~ a~]} 2 \grace {cis,16[ d~ g~]} 2 \grace {cis,16[ d~ \once \override Tie #'minimum-length = #3 g~]} 2 \override Tie #'minimum-length = #3 \grace {cis,16[ d~ g~]} 2 \revert Tie #'minimum-length \grace {cis,16[ d~ g~]} 2 } } \layout{ } } ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user