Odd-looking tie on a chord
\version "2.14.1"
\include "english.ly"
\score {
\new Staff {
\key d \major
\numericTimeSignature
\time 4/4
r4
\times 4/5 { 16\< ~ }
16 8.
%% Here: the tie on the D's looks funny
%% Too tall? Left-hand endpoint is not aligned with the B tie?
~
8 [ ->\mf ]
}
}
It looks even funnier at lower resolution, somewhat better when viewed up close.
I'm aware of \override TieColumn #'tie-configuration but would just as soon
avoid it if possible.
Unrelated question -- I had asked a week or two ago if there is any
more-convenient way to write repeated chords without copying and pasting the
<...> expressions. I don't recall seeing an answer on the list. If the answer
is "no," it would help me to know that for sure so that I can quit wondering.
Thanks,
James
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Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord
James Harkins writes: > Unrelated question -- I had asked a week or two ago if there is any > more-convenient way to write repeated chords without copying and > pasting the <...> expressions. I don't recall seeing an answer on the > list. If the answer is "no," it would help me to know that for sure so > that I can quit wondering. q q q -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord
On Mon 04 Jul 2011, 15:39 James Harkins wrote:
> \version "2.14.1"
>
> \include "english.ly"
>
> \score {
> \new Staff {
> \key d \major
> \numericTimeSignature
> \time 4/4
> r4
> \times 4/5 { 16\< b''>~ }
> 16 8.
>
> %% Here: the tie on the D's looks funny
> %% Too tall? Left-hand endpoint is not aligned with the B tie?
> ~
>
> 8 [ ->\mf ]
> }
> }
>
> It looks even funnier at lower resolution, somewhat better when viewed up
> close.
>
> I'm aware of \override TieColumn #'tie-configuration but would just as soon
> avoid it if possible.
Could you please try to make your example smaller (as small as possible, to be
a "tiny example", see http://lilypond.org/tiny-examples.html) ?
> Unrelated question -- I had asked a week or two ago if there is any
> more-convenient way to write repeated chords without copying and pasting the
> <...> expressions. I don't recall seeing an answer on the list. If the
> answer is "no," it would help me to know that for sure so that I can quit
> wondering.
This is here (as far as you use 2.14, current stable):
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/single-voice.html#chord-repetition
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Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord
Hi!
You wrote:-
+++
\version "2.14.1"
\include "english.ly"
\score {
\new Staff {
\key d \major
\numericTimeSignature
\time 4/4
r4
\times 4/5 { 16\< ~ }
16 8.
%% Here: the tie on the D's looks funny
%% Too tall? Left-hand endpoint is not aligned with the B tie?
~
8 [ ->\mf ]
}
}
It looks even funnier at lower resolution, somewhat better when viewed
up close.
I'm aware of \override TieColumn #'tie-configuration but would just as
soon avoid it if possible.
+++
See embedded comments:-
\version "2.14.1"
\include "english.ly"
\score {
\new Staff {
\key d \major
\numericTimeSignature
\time 4/4
r4
\times 4/5 { 16\< ~ }
8~ %moving the dot from here.
8. % ... to here makes the tie pretty...
[ 8->\mf ]
}
}
% ... but is it musically correct?
I hope this helps
Regards
Bill
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Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord
At Mon, 4 Jul 2011 11:01:20 +0300,
Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote:
> Could you please try to make your example smaller (as small as possible, to be
> a "tiny example", see http://lilypond.org/tiny-examples.html) ?
I find this remark a bit baffling. This is already an extract out of 120 lines
of lilypond code. I did my best to "tin-ify" it, and I'm quite startled to hear
that this already very short example is somehow not tiny enough.
But, since you asked, I'll remove the dynamics, the (only) articulation mark,
and reduce it to two beats instead of four. Note that the issue does not
reproduce if I remove cs' and b from the chords. Then the tie on the D's flips
to the downward direction, which looks standard. So the three note chords are
essential.
\version "2.14.1"
\include "english.ly"
\score {
\new Staff {
\key d \major
\numericTimeSignature
\time 2/4
16 8.
%% Here: the tie on the D's looks funny
%% Too tall? Left-hand endpoint is not aligned with the B tie?
~
8 [ ]
}
}
James
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Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord
On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 05:16:27PM +0800, James Harkins wrote:
> I find this remark a bit baffling. This is already an extract out of 120
> lines of lilypond code. I did my best to "tin-ify" it, and I'm quite startled
> to hear that this already very short example is somehow not tiny enough.
We have limited developer resources. If possible, try to make an
example which can be understood in about 10 seconds.
> But, since you asked, I'll remove
... not enough.
Dmytro: here's a Tiny example.
\version "2.14.1"
\relative c'' {
\time 2/4
d16 d8. ~ d8 d
% both sets of ties in chords look icky
d16 8. ~ 8 d
\tieUp
d16 8. ~ 8 d
}
Cheers,
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Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord
On Mon 04 Jul 2011, 10:30 Graham Percival wrote:
> Dmytro: here's a Tiny example.
>
> \version "2.14.1"
>
> \relative c'' {
> \time 2/4
> d16 d8. ~ d8 d
> % both sets of ties in chords look icky
> d16 8. ~ 8 d
> \tieUp
> d16 8. ~ 8 d
> }
Thank you. It's almost what's I am finished up with.
ps. James, I am sorry, as you can see, there is some things which should have
been removed from this code to make it a "tiny example". This is what
developers ask bug squad about; and what we would love to ask for, in issue
reports. Thank you for your report!
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Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord
On Mon 04 Jul 2011, 15:39 James Harkins wrote:
> \version "2.14.1"
>
> \include "english.ly"
>
> \score {
> \new Staff {
> \key d \major
> \numericTimeSignature
> \time 4/4
> r4
> \times 4/5 { 16\< b''>~ }
> 16 8.
>
> %% Here: the tie on the D's looks funny
> %% Too tall? Left-hand endpoint is not aligned with the B tie?
> ~
>
> 8 [ ->\mf ]
> }
> }
>
> It looks even funnier at lower resolution, somewhat better when viewed up
> close.
>
> I'm aware of \override TieColumn #'tie-configuration but would just as soon
> avoid it if possible.
I found this is an instance of known issue, 1126:
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1126
I have added your example there thougth.
Thank you!
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Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord
On Jul 4, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote:
> On Mon 04 Jul 2011, 15:39 James Harkins wrote:
>> \version "2.14.1"
>>
>> \include "english.ly"
>>
>> \score {
>> \new Staff {
>> \key d \major
>> \numericTimeSignature
>> \time 4/4
>> r4
>> \times 4/5 { 16\< > d'' b''>~ }
>> 16 8.
>>
>> %% Here: the tie on the D's looks funny
>> %% Too tall? Left-hand endpoint is not aligned with the B tie?
>> ~
>>
>> 8 [ ->\mf ]
>> }
>> }
>>
>> It looks even funnier at lower resolution, somewhat better when viewed up
>> close.
>>
>> I'm aware of \override TieColumn #'tie-configuration but would just as soon
>> avoid it if possible.
> I found this is an instance of known issue, 1126:
> http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1126
>
> I have added your example there thougth.
>
> Thank you!
Hey James,
Ties, like beams and stems, vary widely in terms of aesthetic preference, and
LilyPond offers a few properties to help express these preferences through
various minima, maxima, and penalties.
Try setting:
\override Tie #'details #'outer-tie-length-symmetry-penalty-factor = #0
before your chords - I think this may be what you're after.
Here is a list of all the factors and their default settings :
(ratio . 0.333)
(center-staff-line-clearance . 0.6)
(tip-staff-line-clearance . 0.45)
(note-head-gap . 0.2)
(stem-gap . 0.35)
(height-limit . 1.0)
(horizontal-distance-penalty-factor . 10)
(same-dir-as-stem-penalty . 8)
(min-length-penalty-factor . 26)
(tie-tie-collision-distance . 0.45)
(tie-tie-collision-penalty . 25.0)
(intra-space-threshold . 1.25)
(outer-tie-vertical-distance-symmetry-penalty-factor . 10)
(outer-tie-length-symmetry-penalty-factor . 10)
(vertical-distance-penalty-factor . 7)
(outer-tie-vertical-gap . 0.25)
(multi-tie-region-size . 3)
(single-tie-region-size . 4)
(between-length-limit . 1.0)
We always strive to have the best out-of-the-box result possible, so if you
feel after experimenting with these settings that you arrive at a result that
is more akin to what you see in musical rep, send us a scan of the rep and the
parameters you used to get there and we can start considering how to encode
this (these) exception(s) in LilyPond's default output.
Cheers,
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Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord
At Mon, 4 Jul 2011 10:30:06 +0100,
Graham Percival wrote:
> We have limited developer resources. If possible, try to make an
> example which can be understood in about 10 seconds.
>
> > But, since you asked, I'll remove
> ... not enough.
Okay, I understand better now. "Tiny example" doesn't really just mean "tiny."
To me, one bar is tiny. But "tiny" seems to imply other things.
Tiny-examples.html doesn't *quite* explain this.
It would have helped me understand what a tiny example is really supposed to be
if I could have read some additional notes on the page, such as (feel free to
add these to the page, if appropriate):
~~~
- A tiny example usually doesn't mean copying and pasting a bar or a couple of
beats from a longer score. Copy/paste illustrates, but doesn't really clarify.
It's better to contrive an example that cuts right to the issue, with no frills
-- and that means /no/ frills.
- ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT: If it's possible to contrast "good" output against
"bad" output in the same example, this will clarify the issue much more than a
simple example with a comment that "I don't like the output here."
- Omit \score {}, \new Staff {} etc. if at all possible. If you're not sure
what is legal to leave out, reread the learning manual.
~~~
Sorry for posting a too-complex example. But I'd also add, from the perspective
of a relatively new user, "tiny example" seems to be defined a bit like
pornography... hard to say exactly what it is, but you know it when you see it.
:)
James
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Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord
At Mon, 4 Jul 2011 12:14:49 +0200, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: > Ties, like beams and stems, vary widely in terms of aesthetic preference, and > LilyPond offers a few properties to help express these preferences through > various minima, maxima, and penalties. > > Try setting: > \override Tie #'details #'outer-tie-length-symmetry-penalty-factor = #0 Seems quite useful, will play around with it later. Thank you! hjh -- James Harkins /// dewdrop world jamshar...@dewdrop-world.net http://www.dewdrop-world.net "Come said the Muse, Sing me a song no poet has yet chanted, Sing me the universal." -- Whitman blog: http://www.dewdrop-world.net/words audio clips: http://www.dewdrop-world.net/audio more audio: http://soundcloud.com/dewdrop_world/tracks ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord
On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 10:38:22PM +0800, James Harkins wrote: > Sorry for posting a too-complex example. But I'd also add, from > the perspective of a relatively new user, "tiny example" seems > to be defined a bit like pornography... hard to say exactly what > it is, but you know it when you see it. :) Heh. Thanks, we'll try to clarify that page. We used to call these "minimal examples", which has a precise meaning and is very well-understood -- but only by English speakers trained in mathematics, computer science, or maybe a few other areas. I renamed them to "Tiny examples" to try to get broader understanding (particularly amongst ESL people), but I clearly lost too much in the "translation". Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord
Am Montag, 4. Juli 2011, 16:38:22 schrieb James Harkins: > Okay, I understand better now. "Tiny example" doesn't really just mean > "tiny." To me, one bar is tiny. But "tiny" seems to imply other things. > Tiny-examples.html doesn't *quite* explain this. "Tiny" is not meant in terms out music output, but rather in terms of LilyPond code input. A tiny example should only contain those lilypond commands / notes that are absolutely necessary to show the problem. BTW, trying to strip down a problem to such a tiny example often helps you finding the error (if no lilypond bug is involved, but you messed up with the code somewhere)... I had that quite a lot, so creating a minimal example is not really wasted time, but already helps you track down the problem (and helps us developers, because we don't have to do the same thing again). Cheers, Reinhold -- -- Reinhold Kainhofer, reinh...@kainhofer.com, http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/ * Financial & Actuarial Math., Vienna Univ. of Technology, Austria * http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/, DVR: 0005886 * LilyPond, Music typesetting, http://www.lilypond.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord
> Sorry for posting a too-complex example. But I'd also add, from the > perspective of a relatively new user, "tiny example" seems to be > defined a bit like pornography... hard to say exactly what it is, > but you know it when you see it. :) :-) This saying should go into the manual also... Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord
2011/7/4 Bill Mooney :
> \version "2.14.1"
> \include "english.ly"
> \score {
> \new Staff {
> \key d \major
> \numericTimeSignature
> \time 4/4
> r4
> \times 4/5 { 16\< b''> d'' b''>~ }
>
> 8~ %moving the dot from here.
>
> 8. % ... to here makes the tie pretty...
> [ 8->\mf ]
> }
> }
>
> % ... but is it musically correct?
I'm afraid it isn't, because it doesn't respect beats.
HTH,
Janek
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Re: Percussion Notation
2011/6/28 cdg :
> As far as the roll notation, I did have a mild degree of success [...].
>
> However, now I'm just trying to lower the position of the 1 and 2 tremolo on
> the stem—they're far too close to the beams in some cases.
You can move tremolo slashes using extra-offset property:
\override StemTremolo #'extra-offset = #'(0 . -0.3)
(almost everything can be moved using extra-offset. First number
specifies movement along horizontal axis, second along vertical axis)
> One other issue
> that I'm not sure is editable are the edges of the 1 and 2 slash tremolo
> marks. It's hard to describe in words. The 3 slashes on a quarter or half
> note are vertically smooth on the sides. With the 1 and 2 slashes (tremolo)
> on eighths and smaller, the vertical sides are jagged, which is a result of
> me adjusting the slope. Hopefully the following image makes this a little
> more clear.
> http://old.nabble.com/file/p31942537/rollExample.jpg
A picture is worth a thousand words! It's very wise of you to attach
it, now i know exactly what you need :)
And i've prepared a patch (http://codereview.appspot.com/4636081/).
It will take some time till it is pushed to the main source repository
and included in a developer release (or maybe even stable 2.14.2?),
but hopefully in 2 weeks or so there will be an official 2.15.* doing
the Right Thing by default!
> There are quite a few other issues I'm trying to figure out, but I'll save
> them for another day.
If you still have them, post them :)
We'll gladly help.
> When I work in Lilypond, I have all sorts of reference windows open,
> searching for solutions, but it's confusing knowing how to implement them.
> Just when I think I've found something, I try it out, tweak the numbers (or
> whatever the variable is) and often, nothing happens.
I can only help by saying that this is often caused by applying
override to a wrong context, omitting a ' or another typo. For example
fontsize changes below won't work
{
c! c?
\override AccidentalCautionary #font-size = #10
\override BarNumber #'font-size = #10
c! c?
b b b b
b b b b\break
b b b b b b b b b b b b
}
...because:
- there is a missing ' in first command
- \override BarNumber #'font-size = #10 is equivalent to \override
Voice.BarNumber #'font-size = #10 (i.e. if no context is specified,
Voice context is assumed). This is wrong because BarNumber lives in
the Score context.
> I wish the Internals
> Reference had examples of how each is used and "how tweaking this does that,
> and how tweaking that does this". For example, \override Beam
> #'beamed-stem-shorten. I've tweaked those 3 numbers all sorts of different
> ways with little to no change. So now I'm thinking it's not what I think it
> is.
Me too :) I suppose the problem is that it is a quite inner (internal)
property, i.e. very tightly bound with other ones and perhaps not
intended to be tweaked by "ordinary" user.
From what i know about beaming code, the many variables and properties
present there are quite interlocked, and changing one may not produce
instatntly visible results because of influence of others.
> But it's all good. When I do figure something out, I feel like I've
> conquered the world. ;)
I know that feeling :)
I have it when a patch i've prepared works :)
HTH,
Janek
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Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord
2011/7/4 James Harkins : > Okay, I understand better now. "Tiny example" doesn't really just mean > "tiny." To me, one bar is tiny. :) > But "tiny" seems to imply other things. Tiny-examples.html doesn't *quite* > explain this. To me the sentence "A tiny example is an example from which nothing can be removed." explains it all, but i am specific :) I guess we have to clarify it. 2011/7/4 Graham Percival : > On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 10:38:22PM +0800, James Harkins wrote: >> Sorry for posting a too-complex example. But I'd also add, from >> the perspective of a relatively new user, "tiny example" seems >> to be defined a bit like pornography... hard to say exactly what >> it is, but you know it when you see it. :) > > Heh. Thanks, we'll try to clarify that page. Here is my try: http://codereview.appspot.com/4636082/ please review :) HTH, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord
Hi all, > To me the sentence "A tiny example is an example from which nothing > can be removed." explains it all Can't whitespace be removed without affecting the outcome? ;) > I guess we have to clarify it. +1. Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord
On Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 03:55:37PM -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi all, > > > To me the sentence "A tiny example is an example from which nothing > > can be removed." explains it all > > Can't whitespace be removed without affecting the outcome? ;) Ah, but as far as lilypond is concerned, whitespace *is* nothing. :) Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Research on ties (was: Odd-looking tie on a chord)
2011/7/4 m...@apollinemike.com : > We always strive to have the best out-of-the-box result possible, so if you > feel after experimenting with these settings that you arrive at a result that > is more akin to what you see in musical rep, send us a scan of the rep and > the parameters you used to get there and we can start considering how to > encode this (these) exception(s) in LilyPond's default output. Hm, perhaps it will be wise to mention that i'm currently researching ties in general. I already have about 150 examples of current-vs-desired output pairs. There are a lot of cases which Lily doesn't handle well, so when i finish my report i hope that we will launch a big Tie Project to get rid of all these deficiencies. I attach a small excerpt of my work. Some examples are nitpicky, but 6th and 8th one look really bad in print and should definately be fixed. cheers, Janek tie demonstration.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Tuplets across barlines?
Anyone know if it is possible in lilypond to notation tuplets across a barline? I'm looking into the more contemporary features l ilypond provides and am trying to find most of the pitfalls before I dedicate my time to learning the language. Thanks! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Tuplets across barlines?
Hi Joey,
> Anyone know if it is possible in lilypond to notation tuplets across a
> barline?
Sure!
\version "2.15.3"
\relative c' { \times 2/3 { c1 d e } }
> I'm looking into the more contemporary features l
> ilypond provides and am trying to find most of the
> pitfalls before I dedicate my time to learning the language.
It's worth it.
Cheers,
Kieren.
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RE: ERROR: Unable to find file "ice-9/boot-9.scm" in load path
Hello, From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org [lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] on behalf of Jacek Gajek [jacek.s.ga...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 June 2011 12:35 To: lilypond-user Subject: Fwd: ERROR: Unable to find file "ice-9/boot-9.scm" in load path In PATH I have "C:\Program Files (x86)\LilyPond\usr\bin". It is a correct path (the folder exists). When I type lilypond: GNU LilyPond 2.12.3 programming error: cannot find absolute argv0 continuing, cross fingers ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path: ERROR: Unable to find file "ice-9/boot-9.scm" in load path I use Miktex 2.9 x64. Greetings, 2011/6/24 Phil Holmes : > - Original Message - From: "Jacek Gajek" > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 4:16 PM > Subject: ERROR: Unable to find file "ice-9/boot-9.scm" in load path > > >> Hello, I encounter the following output, no matter how do I try to use >> lilypond from cmd. >> "lilypond-windows" drag&drop works, but I want to generate an image >> file (e.g. PNG) so I cannot use it. >> What I want to include inline sheet music in a latex document. Not >> interested in typing notes directly in >> latex. I prefer to have them rendered in PNG files and rebuild and >> include when necessary. >> >> C:\Users\Jacek\Desktop\test>lilypond "test.ly" >> GNU LilyPond 2.12.3 >> programming error: cannot find absolute argv0 >> continuing, cross fingers >> ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path: >> ERROR: Unable to find file "ice-9/boot-9.scm" in load path >> >> I have found a lot of posts with the same problem with solutions, but >> I am confused what should I actually DO to get it working. >> Could you provide me instructions step-by-step what should I do? I >> mean, sth like this: click here, type this, press enter. >> I have tried it for 3 hours, so I am not a give-me-the-codez guy. >> >> Thanks in advance, > > > A couple of questions: what do you get when you just type "lilypond" > (without the quote marks) on the command line? What's in your PATH > statement? -- I reproduced this 'error message' on my Linux box. I downloaded the sh file and installed LilyPond and I know it works because I did some simple test stuff on it by creating a test.ly on my desktop and running via CLI while being CWD in /Desktop: lilypond --pdf test.ly All works. However if I try to run lilypond against a file in a 'relative dir' (rather than in the same dir) I get the same problem --snip-- james@james-OptiPlex-990:~$ pwd /home/james james@james-OptiPlex-990:~$ lilypond --pdf ./Desktop/test.ly GNU LilyPond 2.14.1 ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path: ERROR: Unable to find file "ice-9/boot-9.scm" in load path james@james-OptiPlex-990:~$ cd Desktop/ james@james-OptiPlex-990:~/Desktop$ lilypond --pdf test.ly GNU LilyPond 2.14.1 Processing `test.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... Preprocessing graphical objects... Finding the ideal number of pages... Fitting music on 1 page... Drawing systems... Layout output to `test.ps'... Converting to `./test.pdf'... success: Compilation successfully completed james@james-OptiPlex-990:~/Desktop$ --snip-- Now this may be expected, as I have for the last two years used LP on a Mac or with Windows using the drag and drop method. I rarely if ever used LP in a CLI context and never on Linux until now. My path is james@james-OptiPlex-990:~/Desktop$ echo $PATH /usr/lib/libfm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/home/james/lilypond/usr/bin/ So maybe this is the same issue. Is this expected? I haven't read any documentation :) I just assumed that all I had to do was point to my LP bin dir and I could run it on any file as long as I gave the full path. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
startpoint of decrescendo hairpins
Hi,
I have a question to decrescendo-hairpins and lyrics:
How can I change the startpoint of the decresc, to begin at the note an not at
the beginning of the lyric?
\version "2.14.1"
melody = { d''2 c''2 | es''1 }
text = \lyricmode {a long hairpin }
upper = {c'1| b4 b b b }
dynamics = {s1 | s4 \> s4 s4 s4 \! }
\score {
<<
\new Voice = "mel" \melody
\new Lyrics \lyricsto mel \text
\new Staff \upper
\new Dynamics \dynamics
>>
}
<>
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Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord
On 5/07/2011, at 8:26 am, Graham Percival wrote: >>> To me the sentence "A tiny example is an example from which nothing >>> can be removed." explains it all >> >> Can't whitespace be removed without affecting the outcome? ;) > > Ah, but as far as lilypond is concerned, whitespace *is* nothing. :) And therefore any example containing unnecessary whitespace _is_ "an example from which nothing can be removed". Going into an Anglo-Saxon attitude, Matthew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord
On Tue 05 Jul 2011, 18:09 Matthew Collett wrote: > On 5/07/2011, at 8:26 am, Graham Percival wrote: > > Ah, but as far as lilypond is concerned, whitespace *is* nothing. :) > > And therefore any example containing unnecessary whitespace _is_ > "an example from which nothing can be removed". Great, but if "nothing"=="whitespace" here -- yes, it "can be removed", but not "should" .) So, just "make it as readable as possible". -- Dmytro O. Redchuk Bug Squad ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Cowell/Ferneyhough Unconventional Meters
Just wondering if Lilypond can handle this type of situation; In Ferneyhough's etudes transcendentales, he employs meters such as 2/12 or 2/10, acting as literal subdivisions of the semi-breve. This of course translates to n-tuplets, but frees up the score (and mind) a bit so that one can really focus on a clear nested tuplet formation/interpretation within the general overview of a tuplet-based meter without a general increase in tempo (as one would get in compound time if adhering to the same principle). I'm just curious if Lilypond would be able to handle something along these lines. Basically I'm simply looking for the ability to notate "n/m" meter without much trouble. Thanks! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Cowell/Ferneyhough Unconventional Meters
On Jul 5, 2011, at 8:29 AM, Joey wrote:
> Just wondering if Lilypond can handle this type of situation;
>
> In Ferneyhough's etudes transcendentales,
> he employs meters such as 2/12 or 2/10,
> acting as literal subdivisions of the semi-breve.
> This of course translates to n-tuplets,
> but frees up the score (and mind) a
> bit so that one can really focus on
> a clear nested tuplet formation/interpretation
> within the general overview of a tuplet-based meter
> without a general increase in tempo (as one would get in compound
> time if adhering to the same principle).
>
> I'm just curious if Lilypond would be able
> to handle something along these lines.
>
>
> Basically I'm simply looking for the ability
> to notate "n/m" meter without much trouble.
>
> Thanks!
>
Hey Joey,
The easiest way would be to create an override for the time signature stencil:
{
\time 2/8
\once \override Score . TimeSignature #'stencil =
#(lambda (grob) (grob-interpret-markup grob (markup #:override '(baseline-skip
. 0) (#:center-column (#:number "2" #:number "10")
b8 b
}
Cheers,
MS
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