Re: odd configure error

2009-03-26 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 07:08:40PM +0100, James E. Bailey wrote:
> 
> GIT from git.sv.gnu.org
> git clone git://git.sv.gnu.org/lilypond.git

This does not set up easy pulling or pushing in the future, and
generally assumes that people know how to use git.  It also
downloads all branches, which in most cases is not necessary.

> To get the main source code and documentation,
> mkdir lilypond; cd lilypond
> git init-db
> git remote add -f -t master -m master origin 
> git://git.sv.gnu.org/lilypond.git/
> git checkout -b master origin/master

After approximately four hours of discussion between git experts
and non-experts, we decided that this is the best sequence of
commands for most contributors.  Just copy and paste them.

Cheers,
- Graham


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lilypond-book setup for windows

2009-03-26 Thread Hajo Dezelski
Hello,

now, that I have all relevant scores coded with lilypond I want to put
together all my notes in an analytical, didatical orientated "book"
with scores and a lot of referential incipts, themes, excerpts etc.
And the only way I can do this in a timely manner seems to be with
lilypond-book.

Until now I gathered all my notes etc. in a personal-wiki, but this
concept of a "Zettelkasten" (slip box?) is not working for a
structured approach for learning material. I have to do that step by
step.

Until now I have not worked with Latex, Tex, Docbook...  So my question:

Are there recommondations for an integrated editorial environment
using lilypond-book on a windows machine which is easy to use ? I know
I have to learn some coding  but I dont want to dig the next year into
the internals of TEX to layout a text properly.

I like the clear format of the lilypond-documentation. Would that be a
starting point and when yes: How could this be done without using
dreamweaver ;-)

As always thanks in advance for your time and help

Hajo

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Re: Sibelius conversion - sib2ly

2009-03-26 Thread Johan Vromans
Johan Vromans  writes:

> Either approach (plugin and Rosegarden) requires quite some manual
> editing.

I tried it on a project I was just about to start with. It turns out
that (for this project at least) it was way much easier to manually
add the ties and slurs, than to fix the Rosegarden \tenuto's.

> So thanks a lot!

Bis.

-- Johan


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RE: Sibelius conversion - sib2ly

2009-03-26 Thread Eduardo Vieira da Silva



> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Sibelius conversion - sib2ly
> From: jvrom...@squirrel.nl
> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:47:15 +0100
> 
> Johan Vromans  writes:
> 
> > Either approach (plugin and Rosegarden) requires quite some manual
> > editing.
> 
> I tried it on a project I was just about to start with. It turns out
> that (for this project at least) it was way much easier to manually
> add the ties and slurs, than to fix the Rosegarden \tenuto's.
> 
> > So thanks a lot!
> 
> Bis.
> 
> -- Johan
> 
Hi, sorry for quoting this message, but I thought the MusicXML is still the 
best way to go -- Not that I want to discourage any new projects.
I really like the results from PDFtoMusic, made by Myriad Software. I have 
tried using pdf prints generated from Finale and Sibelius and the results are 
just great. It's awesome to see how much better musicxml2ly is by now.



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Re: odd configure error

2009-03-26 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Graham Percival
 wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 07:08:40PM +0100, James E. Bailey wrote:
>>
>> GIT from git.sv.gnu.org
>>     git clone git://git.sv.gnu.org/lilypond.git
>
> This does not set up easy pulling or pushing in the future, and
> generally assumes that people know how to use git.  It also
> downloads all branches, which in most cases is not necessary.

It depends on what branches people work with.  If they only work on
the master branch, then the `git clone' method is a lot easier, IMO.

The `git clone' method *does* set up easy pulling and pushing, but
only for the master branch (I think).

The confusion comes in when trying to juggle multiple remote branches
on multiple local branches.  This is when knowledge of git is
necessary, because there are different ways of doing things.

For example, this is the method I would recommend to fetch the
LilyPond repo and make a patch for the documentation:

git clone git://git.sv.gnu.org/lilypond.git
cd lilypond
git checkout -b mybranch
...make changes...
git commit -a
git format-patch master

Let's say remote master has changed in the meantime, and you want to
create a new patch rebased on current master:

cd lilypond
git checkout master
git pull
git checkout mybranch
git rebase master
git format-patch master

If you want to create a new patch, just do this:

cd lilypond
git checkout master
git pull
git checkout mybranch
...make changes...
git commit -a
git rebase master
git format-patch master

If you have push access, just add a couple more steps:

cd lilypond
git checkout master
git pull
git checkout mybranch
...make changes...
git commit -a
git rebase master
git checkout master
git merge mybranch
git push git+ssh://git.sv.gnu.org/srv/git/lilypond.git

***

Ideally, users would know what all of these commands mean, but as you
say, if we put these sequences in the Contributer's Guide, then they
can simply copy and paste.

These command sequences generally work, unless there are rebase
conflicts, which requires another two paragraphs itself to explain.
They also eliminate the extra `merge' commits you see occasionally.


-Patrick


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Re: Sibelius conversion - sib2ly

2009-03-26 Thread Johan Vromans
Eduardo Vieira da Silva  writes:

> Hi, sorry for quoting this message, but I thought the MusicXML is
> still the best way to go -- Not that I want to discourage any new
> projects. 

Yes, it would be very nice to have one good export format and a good
importer. But Sibelius does not produce MusicXML without the help of
an expensive plugin.

> ... PDFtoMusic, made by Myriad Software ...

Yet another closed, non-free product that doesn't run on my platforms.

But if it works for you, please go ahead.
Why not set up a web service that allows us to submit a PDF and get
back the MusicXML and/or LilyPond source? 

-- Johan


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Re: new Problem with Time-Sig

2009-03-26 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Neil,
Yes, I don't now how to reduce the distance and first staff in this example.
It is an excerpt of a larger score, and the first staff isn't always
the same, it's a so called french score.
Here is the example:

\version "2.12.1"
#(set-global-staff-size 12)
\paper {
  ragged-bottom = #f
  ragged-last-bottom = ##f


}
\layout

{
 \context { \RemoveEmptyStaffContext }
 \context { \Score  \override VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t }
 \context { \Score \consists  "Time_signature_engraver" }
   \context { \Score \override TimeSignature #'style = #'() }
   \context { \Score  \override TimeSignature #'break-align-symbol
= #'staff-bar }
\context { \Score \override TimeSignature #'X-offset: =
#ly:self-alignment-interface::x-aligned-on-self }
   \context { \Score \override TimeSignature #'self-alignment-X = #CENTER }
   \context { \Score  \override TimeSignature #'break-visibility =
#end-of-line-invisible }
   \context { \Score \override TimeSignature #'extra-spacing-width
= #'(+inf.0 . -inf.0) }
   \context { \Score \override TimeSignature #'font-size = #3 }
\context { \Score \override  TimeSignature #'extra-offset =
#'(0 . 1.5) }
\context { \Staff \remove "Time_signature_engraver" }
 }
\layout { \context { \Score \override VerticalAlignment #'max-stretch
= #ly:align-interface::calc-max-stretch
\override RehearsalMark #'font-size = #2 %Studierzeichen Groesser
}
}

noten = \new Staff {
b''4  ~   (
   \times 4/5  {
  b''8 [ f''8 cis''8  e'8 c''!8 )] } %das sieht fürchterlich aus!

\times 4/5  {
 b''16 [( f''16 cis''16   a'16 bes'16 )] }
| % 127
\times 4/5  {
cis'16 ([ b'16dis'''16
fis''16 e''16 )] }
\times 4/5  {
c'16 [( bes'16e'''16
as''16 g''16 ]) }
\times 4/5  {
 f'''16( [ bes''16 as''16  b!16 a'!16 ]) }
  \stemNeutral  f64 [ d'64 as'64 ]   b'64 [ e''64 bes''64 c'''64
es''64 a'64 ]fis'64 [ gis'64 e''64 a''64 ]
  b''64 [ f'''64 bes'''64 ] | % 129
\ottava #1 2 ~ \fff ~ |
  g32 [ ges32 \> es32 d32 ] des32 [
  bes'''32 a'''32 as'''32 ] f'''32 [ e'''32 es'''32 c'''32 ] |  \break  }
  global = \new Staff  { \time 4/4 s1 \time 2/4 s2*3 \time 3/8 s4. }
  \score { << \global
  \noten
  \noten
  >> }
%%END

2009/3/24 Neil Puttock :
> 2009/3/23 Stefan Thomas :
>> Dear Neil,
>> thanks for Your help, Your code worked.
>
> It's really your code tidied up with the odd enhancement. ;)
>
>> I don't have any problems with the horizontal position of the
>> TimeSignatures, but I'm still not happy with the vertical position.
>> Sometimes (if I have a stretch in the layout), the TimeSignature is
>> too far away, sometimes it is too close to the staff. Isn't there a
>> possiblitie to have a "magnetic position" for  TimeSignature's
>> vertical position?
>
> Does this occur even when there are no items near the time signatures
> which would influence spacing, such as a legered note or dynamics?
>
> If it's still being stretched when there's no visible reason, then I'm
> not really sure what to suggest.
>
> Regards,
> Neil
>


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Re: lilypond-book setup for windows

2009-03-26 Thread Carl Sorensen
Hajo Dezelski  googlemail.com> writes:

> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> Are there recommondations for an integrated editorial environment
> using lilypond-book on a windows machine which is easy to use ? I know
> I have to learn some coding  but I dont want to dig the next year into
> the internals of TEX to layout a text properly.

A very easy to use editor for TeX on Windows is WinEdt.  I used it all the time
when I had a windows machine.

You can get started in LaTeX with a tutorial available on the web called
"The (not so) Short Introduction to LaTex".

> 
> I like the clear format of the lilypond-documentation. Would that be a
> starting point and when yes: How could this be done without using
> dreamweaver 

The LilyPond documentation doesn't use Dreamweaver.  It does use TeX,
in the form of output from texinfo.

HTH,

Carl





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Re: lilypond-book setup for windows

2009-03-26 Thread Andrew Hawryluk
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Hajo Dezelski  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> now, that I have all relevant scores coded with lilypond I want to put
> together all my notes in an analytical, didatical orientated "book"
> with scores and a lot of referential incipts, themes, excerpts etc.
> And the only way I can do this in a timely manner seems to be with
> lilypond-book.
>
> Until now I gathered all my notes etc. in a personal-wiki, but this
> concept of a "Zettelkasten" (slip box?) is not working for a
> structured approach for learning material. I have to do that step by
> step.
>
> Until now I have not worked with Latex, Tex, Docbook...  So my question:
>
> Are there recommondations for an integrated editorial environment
> using lilypond-book on a windows machine which is easy to use ? I know
> I have to learn some coding  but I dont want to dig the next year into
> the internals of TEX to layout a text properly.
>
> I like the clear format of the lilypond-documentation. Would that be a
> starting point and when yes: How could this be done without using
> dreamweaver ;-)
>
> As always thanks in advance for your time and help
>
> Hajo
>
> ---
> ... indessen wandelt harmlos droben das Gestirn
>
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Ha, I was half way through writing this when Carl answered, but I'll
still send it.

What final output do you want? If you want publication-quality PDF
output, LaTeX is your best bet (http://miktex.org/ for windows), and
there are several editors that could be helpful:
http://www.texniccenter.org/
http://www.winedt.com/
http://www.xm1math.net/texmaker/
http://www.latexeditor.org/

The LilyPond documentation is written in texinfo, which is processed
to produce both the PDF and HTML versions.

On the other hand, writing in plain HTML is a reasonable option if you
only want web output.

Andrew


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Persian fonts

2009-03-26 Thread Kees van den Doel
Hi all,

I updated the persian.ly init file with some more Persian "keys", instructions 
for setting up the fonts for the Mac (thank you Patrick) and some extended 
examples.

http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~kvdoel/tmp/persian.zip

There are still plenty of problems, for example the Persian accidentals don't 
align well when you change the font size (apart from that they don't look that 
nice). Hopefully they will be integrated in 2.13 at some point.
 
Kees


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