Re: Change pdf viewer on mac

2006-04-02 Thread Orm Finnendahl
A couple of days ago I posted a modified lilypond-mode.el which takes
advantage of xpdf's -remote option which does what you're asking for.

It only works if you use emacs, though...

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Am 02. April 2006, 02:02 Uhr (+) schrieb Mark A:
> Is there any way to customize the pdf viewer that is called
> by the Lilypond.app package for the Mac? I would prefer to
> use a viewer that automatically refreshes when the pdf file 
> changes, which is not easily done with Preview.app. I prefer 
> not to change the system default pdf viewer away from Preview, 
> though.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark
> 
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convert-ly 2.8.1 and 2.9.1 broken

2006-04-02 Thread Paul Scott

2.8.1 and 2.9.1 convert-ly gives:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/jen/paul/music/stfrancis$ convert-ly -e *.ly
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "/usr/local/lilypond/usr/bin/convert-ly", line 39, in ?
   import lilylib as ly
 File 
"/usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/python/lilylib.py", line 
16, in ?

   import optparse
 File "/usr/lib/python2.4/optparse.py", line 72, in ?
   try:
 File "/usr/lib/python2.4/gettext.py", line 49, in ?
   import locale, copy, os, re, struct, sys
ImportError: No module named struct

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Re: solid line for textspanner?

2006-04-02 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I would rather say that it's a bug that you don't get a continuous line 
if you use

\override TextSpanner #'style = #'line

The documentation of the line-interface and the implementation
agree with what's written below, but several grobs, such as
VoiceFollower and Glissando have style set to 'line, even though
the implementation only cares about the style property if it's set
to 'dotted-line. Also, the example text-spanner.ly in Tips and Tricks
sets the style property so that you get the impression that the setting 
actually matters.


  /Mats

Quoting Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


On 31-Mar-06, at 8:03 PM, Christopher Ellis wrote:


\override TextSpanner #'dash-fraction = #'()

this works for me.


Thanks, I've added this to the manual.

Cheers,
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Text spanner and musicglyph

2006-04-02 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
Hi lilypond list !!!

Does some one have a clue of how I can add \musicglyph #"timesig.C22"
inside a \override Voice . TextSpanner #'edge-text = #' ()

I had tried a lot of forms and couldn get it to work.

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2.8.1 bug in tieWaitForNote

2006-04-02 Thread Steve D
tieWaitForNote bug

LilyPond 2.8.1 installed with GUB on Debian Linux

Using \set tieWaitForNote, which allows for ties between arpeggios and a
following chord, some ties are not attached to or do not extend to the
correct note.

--- begin LilyPond code ---

version "2.8.1"
\layout { ragged-right = ##t }
\score {
\new Staff \relative c'' {
\clef treble \key c \major \time 4/4
2~  |
\set tieWaitForNote = ##t
e8~ c~ a~ f~ 2 |
f,8~ a~ c~ e~ 2 |
}
}

--- end LilyPond code ---


Attached: tieWaitForNote_1.png and tieWaitForNote_2.png

* tieWaitForNote_1.png is the output of the LilyPond code above

* tieWaitForNote_2.png is an example of the bug in a piece I'm working on
now. The notes of the grace-note arpeggio should be tied to the
corresponding notes of the following chord.

Best wishes,

Steve D
New Mexico US


tieWaitForNote_1.png
Description: PNG image


tieWaitForNote_2.png
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Re: Change pdf viewer on mac

2006-04-02 Thread mark oilcan


--- Orm Finnendahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A couple of days ago I posted a modified lilypond-mode.el which takes
> advantage of xpdf's -remote option which does what you're asking for.
> 
> It only works if you use emacs, though...
> 

Thanks for the suggestion. Right now I can get a pdf viewer pointing to the
final pdf, and it refreshes automatically. The problem on the Mac is that
when I do command-R it compiles then pops Preview to the front. If I could
make it just do the compiling, without launching Preview (or shifting focus
to it) then that would be sufficient. I took a look at lilycall.py in
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources but the changes I made there
didn't seem to have an effect. I don't really know python, so I'm not sure if
that's a limitation of mine or whether lilycall.py is used at all. So, is
there a way to customize the behavior of Lilypond to just do the compiling
without launching a pdf viewer? I don't have any problem with altering
scripts, if that's necessary, but I'll need some pointers on which ones.

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bar number positions

2006-04-02 Thread Paul Scott
The current bar number default position is fine for bar numbers at the 
beginning of the line but not for bar numbers placed on every bar or 
every n bars.  When bar numbers are placed every n bars they appear to 
the right of the relevant bar (I guess this is to avoid collisions with 
the clef symbol when bar numbers are only at the beginning of the 
line).  I suggest that slightly different logic should be applied when 
\set Score.barNumberVisibility = #(every-nth-bar-number-visible ) so 
that the bar numbers at the beginning would be consistent with the rest.


Thanks for reading this,

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Re: Change pdf viewer on mac

2006-04-02 Thread Carrick Patterson
Quoting mark oilcan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>
>
> --- Orm Finnendahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > A couple of days ago I posted a modified lilypond-mode.el which takes
> > advantage of xpdf's -remote option which does what you're asking for.
> >
> > It only works if you use emacs, though...
> >
>
> Thanks for the suggestion. Right now I can get a pdf viewer pointing to the
> final pdf, and it refreshes automatically. The problem on the Mac is that
> when I do command-R it compiles then pops Preview to the front. If I could
> make it just do the compiling, without launching Preview (or shifting focus
> to it) then that would be sufficient. I took a look at lilycall.py in
> /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources but the changes I made there
> didn't seem to have an effect. I don't really know python, so I'm not sure if
> that's a limitation of mine or whether lilycall.py is used at all. So, is
> there a way to customize the behavior of Lilypond to just do the compiling
> without launching a pdf viewer? I don't have any problem with altering
> scripts, if that's necessary, but I'll need some pointers on which ones.
>
> Mark A
>
>
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Why don't you just put at the top of your file:

\set Score.skipTypesetting = ##t

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Which template for organ ?

2006-04-02 Thread MX

Salut tout le monde !
Hi everybody !

I look forward a good lily template for the organ. I would like to 
produce such staves (see the following picture from the Bach 
Gesellschadt Edition) with :


1. A brace on the two first staves ;

2. The bar lines along the three staves.

I can do : 1. the brace on the three staves and the bar lines on the 
three staves. 2. the brace on the two manuale staves but a bar line on 
the two first staves and a different bar line ont the pedal staff.


Thanks in advance.

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Middle line stem direction in 2.8

2006-04-02 Thread Father Panteleimon
In the 2.7 development versions prior to the release of 2.8.0 , the stem
directions for notes on the middle line of the staff followed the direction
of neighoboring notes (a feature sponsored by Mike Rolish and Basil Crow).
It appears that in 2.8.0, this feature (which looks very nice and helps with
slurs, too) became an option rather than the default. So I looked at the
snippet behind the appropriate graphic on the "changes" page and found this:
\new Voice \with {
  \consists "Melody_engraver"
  \override Stem #'neutral-direction = #'()
}
And then the \relative, the notes, etc.

Since I have no other need for a "\new Voice \with{.." in my scores, I tried
putting  \override Stem #'neutral-direction = #'() in the layout block. This
worked unders windows but not under linux (which runs lilypond much more
quickly). 
I also tried the entire \new Voice...etc. snippet under linux and that
didn't work either, although it does under windows. The .ly files I'm using
for both OS's are exactly the same. Is there something wrong with my
installation of lily under linux, or else can someone tell me some other way
to make Mike & Basil's feature default for middle-line note stems again? I
am assuming that it was changed from default to option intentionally, as the
wording of the "changes" doc suggests. 


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Re: convert-ly 2.8.1 and 2.9.1 broken

2006-04-02 Thread Martial

in win2k (2.8.1)
convert-ly work,
but it is writing in the new  file : \version 2.7.40

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Re: convert-ly 2.8.1 and 2.9.1 broken

2006-04-02 Thread Geoff Horton
> in win2k (2.8.1)
> convert-ly work,
> but it is writing in the new  file : \version 2.7.40

That's not an error. See the manual, Section 5.6:

"convert-ly always converts up to the last syntax change handled by
it. This means that
the \version number left in the file is usually lower than the version
of convert-ly itself."

Apparently there have been no syntax changes since 2.7.40 (or at least
none that convert-ly handles).

Geoff


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Re: convert-ly 2.8.1 and 2.9.1 broken

2006-04-02 Thread Martial

writing in the new  file : \version 2.7.40

 That's not an error. See the manual, Section 5.6:
 "convert-ly always converts up to the last syntax change ...


Oops!
Thank for your helpfulness. 

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Re: Default bar numbering collision

2006-04-02 Thread Jordi Nadal
http://www.geocities.com/noi_ga/imatges/lilypond_bracket_bar_number_bug.png





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Re: Middle line stem direction in 2.8

2006-04-02 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Are you really sure that you use the same LilyPond version both in 
Windows and Linux? These differences cannot possibly be platform 
dependent as far as I can understand.


For the reasoning behind the change, see 
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2006-03/msg00104.html


  /Mats

Quoting Father Panteleimon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


In the 2.7 development versions prior to the release of 2.8.0 , the stem
directions for notes on the middle line of the staff followed the direction
of neighoboring notes (a feature sponsored by Mike Rolish and Basil Crow).
It appears that in 2.8.0, this feature (which looks very nice and helps with
slurs, too) became an option rather than the default. So I looked at the
snippet behind the appropriate graphic on the "changes" page and found this:
\new Voice \with {
 \consists "Melody_engraver"
 \override Stem #'neutral-direction = #'()
}
And then the \relative, the notes, etc.

Since I have no other need for a "\new Voice \with{.." in my scores, I tried
putting  \override Stem #'neutral-direction = #'() in the layout block. This
worked unders windows but not under linux (which runs lilypond much more
quickly).
I also tried the entire \new Voice...etc. snippet under linux and that
didn't work either, although it does under windows. The .ly files I'm using
for both OS's are exactly the same. Is there something wrong with my
installation of lily under linux, or else can someone tell me some other way
to make Mike & Basil's feature default for middle-line note stems again? I
am assuming that it was changed from default to option intentionally, as the
wording of the "changes" doc suggests.


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Re: Text spanner and musicglyph

2006-04-02 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Search the mailing list archives for:
markup edge-text
it should give you several similar examples.

  /Mats

Quoting Allan Spagnol Comar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Hi lilypond list !!!

Does some one have a clue of how I can add \musicglyph #"timesig.C22"
inside a \override Voice . TextSpanner #'edge-text = #' ()

I had tried a lot of forms and couldn get it to work.

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Re: Which template for organ ?

2006-04-02 Thread Mats Bengtsson

This is one of the things that can be done with the new support for
a hierarchy of nested system start delimiters, which is mentioned
in the NEWS file for version 2.8, but really not documented at all, 
except for this single example and the following email:

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-11/msg00771.html

Based on some trial and error, I found out that the following should work:
\new StaffGroup \relative <<
 \set StaffGroup.systemStartDelimiterHierarchy
   = #'(SystemStartBar (SystemStartBrace a b ))
 \new Staff { c1 d1 }
 \new Staff { c1 d1 }
 \new Staff { c1 d1 }




  /Mats

Quoting MX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Salut tout le monde !
Hi everybody !

I look forward a good lily template for the organ. I would like to 
produce such staves (see the following picture from the Bach 
Gesellschadt Edition) with :


1. A brace on the two first staves ;

2. The bar lines along the three staves.

I can do : 1. the brace on the three staves and the bar lines on the 
three staves. 2. the brace on the two manuale staves but a bar line 
on the two first staves and a different bar line ont the pedal staff.


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RE: Middle line stem direction in 2.8

2006-04-02 Thread Father Panteleimon
Yes, I was running 2.8.0 on both platforms with exact same .ly files. I
uninstalled 2.8.0 from linux (SuSe 10) and tried both 2.8.1 and 2.9 with the
same results. Only 2.7 will do the stem thing under linux. I didn't know
decidous note-stems were bad. They sure look nice, though, especially where
slurs are involved. They keep slurs from having their ends floating high
above the notes. I wonder (having no access to examples) if the old-school
engravers would have the b-stem down in a phrase like this:

\relative c'' {  \set Score.timing = ##f \key d \major
  g4 g8[( a)] b2( a4. g8) fis4 e fis8( g) a2 }

That leaves a big white space between b2 and its slur, which looks odd to
me. I imagine that old-school engravers had a very limited number of slur
shapes to work with, so this case would make the levitating slur the only
option, unless the note-stem is inverted, in which case the slur looks very
natural. So what did the old-timers do here, and did they do it from
aesthetics, necessity, or convention?
Just wondering.

Fr. P.

-Original Message-
From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 2:58 PM
To: Father Panteleimon
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Middle line stem direction in 2.8

Are you really sure that you use the same LilyPond version both in Windows
and Linux? These differences cannot possibly be platform dependent as far as
I can understand.

For the reasoning behind the change, see
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2006-03/msg00104.html

   /Mats

Quoting Father Panteleimon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> In the 2.7 development versions prior to the release of 2.8.0 , the 
> stem directions for notes on the middle line of the staff followed the 
> direction of neighoboring notes (a feature sponsored by Mike Rolish and
Basil Crow).
> It appears that in 2.8.0, this feature (which looks very nice and 
> helps with slurs, too) became an option rather than the default. So I 
> looked at the snippet behind the appropriate graphic on the "changes" page
and found this:
> \new Voice \with {
>  \consists "Melody_engraver"
>  \override Stem #'neutral-direction = #'() } And then the \relative, 
> the notes, etc.
>
> Since I have no other need for a "\new Voice \with{.." in my scores, I 
> tried putting  \override Stem #'neutral-direction = #'() in the layout 
> block. This worked unders windows but not under linux (which runs 
> lilypond much more quickly).
> I also tried the entire \new Voice...etc. snippet under linux and that 
> didn't work either, although it does under windows. The .ly files I'm 
> using for both OS's are exactly the same. Is there something wrong 
> with my installation of lily under linux, or else can someone tell me 
> some other way to make Mike & Basil's feature default for middle-line 
> note stems again? I am assuming that it was changed from default to 
> option intentionally, as the wording of the "changes" doc suggests.
>
>
> Fr. P
>
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RE: Middle line stem direction in 2.8 - oops

2006-04-02 Thread Father Panteleimon

Wait a minute. Think I just found a misspelling in my linux file. 
Not platform dependent. Chump-dependent. Sincerest apologies.
Fr. P 

-Original Message-
From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 2:58 PM
To: Father Panteleimon
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Middle line stem direction in 2.8

Are you really sure that you use the same LilyPond version both in Windows
and Linux? These differences cannot possibly be platform dependent as far as
I can understand.

For the reasoning behind the change, see
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2006-03/msg00104.html

   /Mats

Quoting Father Panteleimon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> In the 2.7 development versions prior to the release of 2.8.0 , the 
> stem directions for notes on the middle line of the staff followed the 
> direction of neighoboring notes (a feature sponsored by Mike Rolish and
Basil Crow).
> It appears that in 2.8.0, this feature (which looks very nice and 
> helps with slurs, too) became an option rather than the default. So I 
> looked at the snippet behind the appropriate graphic on the "changes" page
and found this:
> \new Voice \with {
>  \consists "Melody_engraver"
>  \override Stem #'neutral-direction = #'() } And then the \relative, 
> the notes, etc.
>
> Since I have no other need for a "\new Voice \with{.." in my scores, I 
> tried putting  \override Stem #'neutral-direction = #'() in the layout 
> block. This worked unders windows but not under linux (which runs 
> lilypond much more quickly).
> I also tried the entire \new Voice...etc. snippet under linux and that 
> didn't work either, although it does under windows. The .ly files I'm 
> using for both OS's are exactly the same. Is there something wrong 
> with my installation of lily under linux, or else can someone tell me 
> some other way to make Mike & Basil's feature default for middle-line 
> note stems again? I am assuming that it was changed from default to 
> option intentionally, as the wording of the "changes" doc suggests.
>
>
> Fr. P
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Re: Change pdf viewer on mac

2006-04-02 Thread mark oilcan


--- Carrick Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Quoting mark oilcan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> >
> >
> > --- Orm Finnendahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > A couple of days ago I posted a modified lilypond-mode.el which takes
> > > advantage of xpdf's -remote option which does what you're asking for.
> > >
> > > It only works if you use emacs, though...
> > >
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestion. Right now I can get a pdf viewer pointing to
> the
> > final pdf, and it refreshes automatically. The problem on the Mac is that
> > when I do command-R it compiles then pops Preview to the front. If I
> could
> > make it just do the compiling, without launching Preview (or shifting
> focus
> > to it) then that would be sufficient. I took a look at lilycall.py in
> > /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources but the changes I made
> there
> > didn't seem to have an effect. I don't really know python, so I'm not
> sure if
> > that's a limitation of mine or whether lilycall.py is used at all. So, is
> > there a way to customize the behavior of Lilypond to just do the
> compiling
> > without launching a pdf viewer? I don't have any problem with altering
> > scripts, if that's necessary, but I'll need some pointers on which ones.
> >
> > Mark A
> >
> >
> >
> Why don't you just put at the top of your file:
> 
> \set Score.skipTypesetting = ##t
> 

There seems some confusion. It's not that I want to stop the typesetting, I
just don't want the Mac Lilypond.app application to launch Preview.app (and
in particular shift the focus away from Lilypond) after typesetting has been
completed. So, I (1) do some editing in a .ly file, (2) hit command-R to
typeset and create a pdf file, (3) do more editing. After I do step (2) and
perhaps simultaneous to doing step (3) the pdf is displayed in my pdf viewer
so I can see what it all looks like. Important here is that between (2) and
(3) I don't have to manually switch back to Lilypond from the pdf viewer (ie
Preview). Yes, I could do this all easily enough in emacs, but I'm trying to
set this up for someone who would find that route far to complicated. The Mac
Lilypond.app is great for someone who doesn't want a complicated set-up, but
the pushing Preview to the front all the time is actually an annoyance.

Thanks for the suggestions. I do appreciate others trying to help out. Is
this something that would be better asked on the devel list?

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Re: Change pdf viewer on mac

2006-04-02 Thread Ed Baskerville

you could try my little lilypad app:

http://edbaskerville.com/software/lilypad/

a vastly improved version should be out within the month with  
completion, syntax coloring, and hopefully some other nice features.  
i am also planning on releasing it under the gpl.


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On Apr 2, 2006, at 1:38 PM, mark oilcan wrote:




--- Carrick Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Quoting mark oilcan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:




--- Orm Finnendahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

A couple of days ago I posted a modified lilypond-mode.el which  
takes
advantage of xpdf's -remote option which does what you're asking  
for.


It only works if you use emacs, though...



Thanks for the suggestion. Right now I can get a pdf viewer  
pointing to

the
final pdf, and it refreshes automatically. The problem on the Mac  
is that

when I do command-R it compiles then pops Preview to the front. If I

could
make it just do the compiling, without launching Preview (or  
shifting

focus
to it) then that would be sufficient. I took a look at  
lilycall.py in

/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources but the changes I made

there
didn't seem to have an effect. I don't really know python, so I'm  
not

sure if
that's a limitation of mine or whether lilycall.py is used at  
all. So, is

there a way to customize the behavior of Lilypond to just do the

compiling
without launching a pdf viewer? I don't have any problem with  
altering
scripts, if that's necessary, but I'll need some pointers on  
which ones.


Mark A




Why don't you just put at the top of your file:

\set Score.skipTypesetting = ##t



There seems some confusion. It's not that I want to stop the  
typesetting, I
just don't want the Mac Lilypond.app application to launch  
Preview.app (and
in particular shift the focus away from Lilypond) after typesetting  
has been
completed. So, I (1) do some editing in a .ly file, (2) hit command- 
R to
typeset and create a pdf file, (3) do more editing. After I do step  
(2) and
perhaps simultaneous to doing step (3) the pdf is displayed in my  
pdf viewer
so I can see what it all looks like. Important here is that between  
(2) and
(3) I don't have to manually switch back to Lilypond from the pdf  
viewer (ie
Preview). Yes, I could do this all easily enough in emacs, but I'm  
trying to
set this up for someone who would find that route far to  
complicated. The Mac
Lilypond.app is great for someone who doesn't want a complicated  
set-up, but
the pushing Preview to the front all the time is actually an  
annoyance.


Thanks for the suggestions. I do appreciate others trying to help  
out. Is

this something that would be better asked on the devel list?

Mark A


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Re: Change pdf viewer on mac

2006-04-02 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

mark oilcan wrote:


Thanks for the suggestions. I do appreciate others trying to help out. Is
this something that would be better asked on the devel list?


you have to look at

  LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/Python/LilyPond.py
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Manual rest placement doesn't seem to work

2006-04-02 Thread Geoff Horton
I've been trying to use the manual placement mechanism and it doesn't
seem to work. Before I file it as a bug, though, I want to be sure I'm
doing it right. Code follows, output attached. Basically, I want the
rests of the center line of each staff.

world = {
  \key d \major
  \time 3/2
}

melody = \relative c'' {
  \world
  b2\rest fs2 fs |
}


alto = \relative c' {
  \world
  s2 d2 d |
}

tenor = \relative c {
  \world
  d2\rest a' a |
 }

bass = \relative c, {
  \world
  d2 d' d |
}

\score {
  \context ChoirStaff <<
\context Staff = upper <<
  \context Voice =
 sopranos { \voiceOne << \melody >> }
  \context Voice =
 altos { \voiceTwo << \alto >> }
>>
\context Staff = lower <<
  \clef bass
  \context Voice =
tenors { \voiceOne << \tenor >> }
  \context Voice =
  basses { \voiceTwo << \bass >> }
>>
  >>
  \layout {
ragged-right = ##t
  }
}

==

Am I doing something wrong, or is this really broken?

Geoff


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Re: Change pdf viewer on mac

2006-04-02 Thread Carrick Patterson
Quoting mark oilcan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>
>
> --- Carrick Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Quoting mark oilcan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Orm Finnendahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > A couple of days ago I posted a modified lilypond-mode.el which takes
> > > > advantage of xpdf's -remote option which does what you're asking for.
> > > >
> > > > It only works if you use emacs, though...
> > > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the suggestion. Right now I can get a pdf viewer pointing to
> > the
> > > final pdf, and it refreshes automatically. The problem on the Mac is that
> > > when I do command-R it compiles then pops Preview to the front. If I
> > could
> > > make it just do the compiling, without launching Preview (or shifting
> > focus
> > > to it) then that would be sufficient. I took a look at lilycall.py in
> > > /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources but the changes I made
> > there
> > > didn't seem to have an effect. I don't really know python, so I'm not
> > sure if
> > > that's a limitation of mine or whether lilycall.py is used at all. So, is
> > > there a way to customize the behavior of Lilypond to just do the
> > compiling
> > > without launching a pdf viewer? I don't have any problem with altering
> > > scripts, if that's necessary, but I'll need some pointers on which ones.
> > >
> > > Mark A
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Why don't you just put at the top of your file:
> >
> > \set Score.skipTypesetting = ##t
> >
>
> There seems some confusion. It's not that I want to stop the typesetting, I
> just don't want the Mac Lilypond.app application to launch Preview.app (and
> in particular shift the focus away from Lilypond) after typesetting has been
> completed. So, I (1) do some editing in a .ly file, (2) hit command-R to
> typeset and create a pdf file, (3) do more editing. After I do step (2) and
> perhaps simultaneous to doing step (3) the pdf is displayed in my pdf viewer
> so I can see what it all looks like. Important here is that between (2) and
> (3) I don't have to manually switch back to Lilypond from the pdf viewer (ie
> Preview). Yes, I could do this all easily enough in emacs, but I'm trying to
> set this up for someone who would find that route far to complicated. The Mac
> Lilypond.app is great for someone who doesn't want a complicated set-up, but
> the pushing Preview to the front all the time is actually an annoyance.
>
> Thanks for the suggestions. I do appreciate others trying to help out. Is
> this something that would be better asked on the devel list?
>
> Mark A
>
>
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You do know you can just press "COMMAND TAB" on the Mac to switch applications,
right?
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Re: Manual rest placement doesn't seem to work

2006-04-02 Thread Graham Percival


On 2-Apr-06, at 4:40 PM, Geoff Horton wrote:


I've been trying to use the manual placement mechanism and it doesn't
seem to work. Before I file it as a bug, though, I want to be sure I'm
doing it right. Code follows, output attached. Basically, I want the
rests of the center line of each staff.


Please remember to check a minimal example:
\version "2.9.1"
{
  c2\rest a'2
}
works perfectly.


There may be some issue with manual rests within polyphony... but it 
looks fine here:

\version "2.9.1"
{
  << {
  f''2\rest a'2
  f''2\rest a'2
  } \\ {
  d'2\rest f'2
  s2  f'2
  } >>
}


Try these simple examples on your system.  If they work, then try to 
figure out exactly what the difference is between these examples and 
your situation.


Cheers,
- Graham



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Re: Manual rest placement doesn't seem to work

2006-04-02 Thread Geoff Horton
> Try these simple examples on your system.  If they work, then try to
> figure out exactly what the difference is between these examples and
> your situation.

It's the \voiceOne etc. that does it.

This does not work:

melody = \relative c'' {
  b2\rest
}


alto = \relative c' {
  s2
}

\score {
 \context Staff = upper <<
  \context Voice =
 sopranos { << \voiceOne \melody >> }
  \context Voice =
 altos { << \voiceTwo \alto >> }
>>
  \layout {
ragged-right = ##t
  }
}

===

But strip out the \voiceOne and \voiceTwo and it works fine. Changing
\voiceTwo to \voiceThree made no difference (I figured it was worth a
shot).

Geoff


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Re: Change pdf viewer on mac

2006-04-02 Thread mark oilcan


--- Ed Baskerville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> you could try my little lilypad app:
> 
> http://edbaskerville.com/software/lilypad/
> 
> a vastly improved version should be out within the month with  
> completion, syntax coloring, and hopefully some other nice features.  
> i am also planning on releasing it under the gpl.
> 
> --ed
> 

Hey that's pretty nice! The MIDI thing didn't work for me, but that's just
gravy, and I haven't tried too hard either. It's pretty much just the sort of
thing I want.

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Re: Change pdf viewer on mac

2006-04-02 Thread mark oilcan


--- Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> mark oilcan wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for the suggestions. I do appreciate others trying to help out. Is
> > this something that would be better asked on the devel list?
> 
> you have to look at
> 
>LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/Python/LilyPond.py

Thanks. This seems to be what I was looking for, and I think I've managed to
hack it into doing what I want. Sorry if this is documented somewhere and I
missed it.

Mark A


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Re: Manual rest placement doesn't seem to work

2006-04-02 Thread Geoff Horton
Combining the voices with \partcombine also produces a misplaced rest.

Geoff


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Re: Manual rest placement doesn't seem to work

2006-04-02 Thread Geoff Horton
> Combining the voices with \partcombine also produces a misplaced rest.

Sigh. No, it doesn't. Sorry about that. The other example really is
broken, though.

Geoff


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