my lilybook pb solved
Hi !
Just a few words to say that I found an issue to my lilybook pb (invokinf lily
didn't work).
I've suppressed the paper block and the \score item (written in lily2.5 doc :
no { in the lilypond
block inserted in latex).
And it does work, even if I have to get rid of a layout pb.
Am I wright ?
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Re: trillspan issue
Hi.
> I am trying to use startTrillSpan and stopTrillSpan with a
> skip note of duration 0 to make it stop before the bar line, but that
> doesn't to work, the trill still continues across the barline and over
> the first note of the next bar.
The following trick can be used to make the span stop very close to
the bar:
<< { e1\startTrillSpan } { s2 s4 s8 s16 s32 s32\stopTrillSpan } >>
Best,
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Re: Global sizes
Sorry for this. > Is there an equivalent to > > #(set-global-staff-size 16) > > but for fonts? Please discard this question, as I found my mistake :-/ Gilles ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Global sizes
Could you please give an example. From the examples size11.ly, ..., size26.ly at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/input/regression/out-www/collated-files.html it certainly seems to work correctly in version 2.4.2. /Mats Gilles wrote: Hello. Is there an equivalent to #(set-global-staff-size 16) but for fonts? The manual (v2.4.2) states #(set-global-staff-size 14) This sets the global default size to 14pt staff height, and scales all fonts accordingly. But the font is *not* sized appropriately. In other words, is there a way such that one does not have to \set Staff.fontSize = #-4 for each Staff separately? Thanks. Gilles ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
need to update [OT]
I had some compile troubles back in November. It seemed that my Linux setup was in need of some updates to cope with the state of Lily CVS at the time. I have not compiled CVS since then. My current Linux distro is RedHat 9. RedHat stopped providing updates for this back in April of 2004. I need to move to something else, I think. I'm looking for suggestions for a Linux distribution. I'd like to get back to compiling LilyPond from CVS. Recommendations? -David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
MacOS X native packaged (was Re: lilypond install mac os x)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Il giorno 21/feb/05, alle 18:45, Han-Wen Nienhuys ha scritto: > > >> > > > > Could you install it as HTML files on a website somewhere, so we can > > make it show up in our browser? > > > No, I'm trying to find some free web space somewhere but I cannot make > it. > Hope next days... or there is another possibility? > libero BTW, the description of getting Lilypond up and running on a pristine MacOS X (getting XCode, lots of compilation) seems rather involved. I wonder whether there would be any interest in a "native" MacOS X binary of Lilypond, with a pretty installer. An binary which is up and running in a minutes, and Just Works out-of-box. And: if you think that is cool idea, what would be a reasonable price? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: MacOS X native packaged (was Re: lilypond install mac os x)
Hello, Han-Wen: BTW, the description of getting Lilypond up and running on a pristine MacOS X (getting XCode, lots of compilation) seems rather involved. I wonder whether there would be any interest in a "native" MacOS X binary of Lilypond, with a pretty installer. An binary which is up and running in a minutes, and Just Works out-of-box. Since I have no trouble with my current install (via Fink), I'm not sure it would make much difference to me personally. However, I would have a SIGNIFICANTLY easier time "selling" Lilypond to other (new) users if there were a "standard" installation process, so my answer is a resounding "YES"!! And: if you think that is cool idea, what would be a reasonable price? Do you mean a one-time "registration", or to be paid every version, or a "sponsorship" for the continued preparation of said binaries, or...? Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: MacOS X native packaged (was Re: lilypond install mac os x)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Since I have no trouble with my current install (via Fink), I'm not > sure it would make much difference to me personally. > However, I would have a SIGNIFICANTLY easier time "selling" Lilypond to > other (new) users if there were a "standard" installation process, so > my answer is a resounding "YES"!! ok! > > And: if you think that is cool idea, what would be a reasonable price? > > Do you mean a one-time "registration", or to be paid every version, or > a "sponsorship" for the continued preparation of said binaries, or...? I am not sure, that's why I'm asking. Initially, my thoughts go out to a subscription: we provide regular builds, and the subscriber is able download those during X months. Perhaps there could support for installation troubleshooting as well. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: MacOS X native packaged (was Re: lilypond install mac os x)
Hi, > I am not sure, that's why I'm asking. Initially, my thoughts go out to > a subscription: we provide regular builds, and the subscriber is able > download those during X months. Perhaps there could support for > installation troubleshooting as well. Sounds OK for me as well, but Fink works just as well... What binary packages are required for Lilypond to run? - Lilypond - ps2pdf? Any others? Christ van Willegen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
FW: MacOS X native packaged (was Re: lilypond install mac os x)
Somehow I always manage to forget to copy the list: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> Il giorno 21/feb/05, alle 18:45, Han-Wen Nienhuys ha scritto: >> >> >> >> > >> > Could you install it as HTML files on a website somewhere, so we can >> > make it show up in our browser? >> > >> No, I'm trying to find some free web space somewhere but I cannot make >> it. >> Hope next days... or there is another possibility? >> libero > > BTW, the description of getting Lilypond up and running on a pristine > MacOS X (getting XCode, lots of compilation) seems rather involved. I > wonder whether there would be any interest in a "native" MacOS X > binary of Lilypond, with a pretty installer. An binary which is up and > running in a minutes, and Just Works out-of-box. This would be a nice thing. Fink binaries is as technical as most Mac users can get. Your typical MacOSX user depends on drag and drop for his install. Meaning downloads a diskimage (.dmg) opens it and drags the icon to /Applications. Double-clicking the icon would then open up the application. For Lilypond this would have to be an IDE like environment (think PoVRay for windows) where he can type in his .ly file, compile it and view the output and / or view and resolve the warnings and errors. Perhaps a drag-'n-drop application could work as well. The user makes a .ly file in an editor (BBEdit or TextEdit most likely), goes to the Finder and drops it on an application icon or window, which does the rest. An intermediate solution might be releasing it as a fink binary instead of requiring it to be build from source. (Is this still the case? I always use Fink from source, so I don't know) If there is a binary then things are almost resolved (except for the issues above). BTW, I'm quite happy using GNU/Emacs with lilypond on my Mac. > > And: if you think that is cool idea, what would be a reasonable price? > I know you're living on a tight budget, but I've no feeling for the Mac price market out there. My feeling is that it should undercut GarageBand (http://www.apple.com/garageband) by quite a bit. So that would bring it to something like € 10,-. But that's just my two cents. Met vriendelijke groeten, Arjan Bos ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
FW: MacOS X native packaged (was Re: lilypond install mac os x)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > BTW, I'm quite happy using GNU/Emacs with lilypond on my Mac. > > > > > And: if you think that is cool idea, what would be a reasonable price? > > > I know you're living on a tight budget, but I've no feeling for the > Mac price market out there. My feeling is that it should undercut > GarageBand (http://www.apple.com/garageband) by quite a bit. So that > would bring it to something like 10,-. But that's just my two > cents. My feeling is that Lilypond is different that GB, and concerning the notation, it is superior in many ways (I'm not sure though, can anyone send a PDF sample to me?). If anything, it should be as expensive. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: need to update [OT]
> "DB" == David Bobroff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DB> I'm looking for suggestions for a Linux distribution. I'd like to get DB> back to compiling LilyPond from CVS. DB> Recommendations? This is more general than specific, but I've found that using the same distribution as one of the major developers works pretty well. That is, when you have a problem, you can get an answer pretty fast on the list. I think Debian or some fedora is the right answer these days. My personal answer is that I started with RedHat, moved to Mandrake because it was configured out-of-the-box more like what I wanted, and then got tired of the RPM dependancy hell and moved to Debian Unstable. For me, apt-get and dpkg work a lot better than urpmi and rpm did in 2003. But I haven't compiled Debian recently, so I'm the wrong person to answer your specific question. -- Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.laymusic.org/ ) (617) 661-8097 fax: (501) 641-5011 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: MacOS X native packaged (was Re: lilypond install mac os x)
Han-Wen (et al.): My feeling is that Lilypond is different that GB Agreed -- if any comparison is to be made, it should be with like products (Sibeilus, Finale, etc.). However, it's hard to put a price on the "non-GUI-interface" factor: although Lilypond is clearly the superior typesetter (just like LaTeX is infinitely better than Word!), most people want an (significantly) easier interface for entering and manipulating the data (notes, etc). Until that's in place, the pricing for some hypothetical "wider OS X market" is almost a moot point... But pricing for the small but valid segment of "almost-geeks" that don't mind the entry interface but DO mind the installation process is an important consideration. Best regards, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: need to update [OT]
On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 10:21 +, David Bobroff wrote: > I'm looking for suggestions for a Linux distribution. I'd like to get > back to compiling LilyPond from CVS. If you can handle that, you can handle Linux From Scratch (www.linuxfromscratch.org). It's a complete step-by-step guide to acquiring and building the source for the whole enchilada. You piggyback a new build of the gcc and kernel environments onto your existing distro, then switch the boot loader over to your new install. I did it moving from RH 7.3 several years ago, and it was a breeze (it took two or three days of constant compiling, but it was easy). If somebody like me with no prior C experience can do it, anybody can do it. Now I have complete control over what goes into my system. There isn't a file on here that I didn't put there; my desktop has the bare minimum necessary to run the programs I choose and nothing more. -- Peter B. Steiger Cheyenne, WY ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: MacOS X native packaged (was Re: lilypond install mac os x)
My feeling is that Lilypond is different that GB, and concerning the notation, it is superior in many ways (I'm not sure though, can anyone send a PDF sample to me?). If anything, it should be as expensive. As a mac user, two cents: 1) GB is also an audio/midi editor. So, it can be compared only very roughly with lily. 2) If it only depends on its effective value, lily should cost very much and surely much more than GB, which should be freeware for me (with 0 downloads)... . Maybe the idea was not to have lily mac app free, but that it costs the minimum. This can be an effective argument in order to make lily widespread. ciao -a- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: trillspan issue
Gilles wrote:
Hi.
I am trying to use startTrillSpan and stopTrillSpan with a
skip note of duration 0 to make it stop before the bar line, but that
doesn't to work, the trill still continues across the barline and over
the first note of the next bar.
The following trick can be used to make the span stop very close to
the bar:
<< { e1\startTrillSpan } { s2 s4 s8 s16 s32 s32\stopTrillSpan } >>
Thanks for the hack, it doesn't work quite right. What is happening now
is there is a barline inserted in the middle of a measure when the hack
is applied to a half-note. Take a look at the files here -
http://www.wiegand.org/~chip/19.pdf and http://www.wiegand.org/~chip/19.ly.
Also, in measure 15 is a half-note tied to an eigth-note, but when I try
to apply the above hack, it results in either of two errors, depending
on where I place the ~. The errors are either a barcheck failure or
"unexpected ~". I've placed the ~ in various positions in the hack and
outside the hack, but to no avail.
--
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Best,
Gilles
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Re: trillspan issue
On 25-Feb-05, at 12:49 AM, Gilles wrote:
The following trick can be used to make the span stop very close to
the bar:
<< { e1\startTrillSpan } { s2 s4 s8 s16 s32 s32\stopTrillSpan } >>
If you want to save some space you could write
{ s2 s32\stopTrillSpan }
Cheers,
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Re: trillspan issue
> Thanks for the hack, it doesn't work quite right.
This is because you have to adapt the construct to the
actual bar content. In
<< { music_a } { music_b } >>
The duration must be equal in "music_a" and "music_b" or
you'll have bar check failures (and/or the music will not
look like you would expect).
E.g. for the bar with the half-note:
| a4-> <<{c,2.->(\startTrillSpan}{s2 s4 s8 s16 s32 s32\stopTrillSpan}>> |
Here the duration of "music_a" is "2." while for "music_b" it is "1".
Hence, you should write:
| <<{ a4-> c,2.->(\startTrillSpan}{s2 s4 s8 s16 s32 s32\stopTrillSpan}>> |
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adding a tie from a trill'd note to the next note
<<{a2\startTrillSpan}{s4 s8 s16 s32 s32\stopTrillSpan}>> ~ a8 gs a b
---
The above code does not work. I move the tilde anywhere in the line and
it always results in this error:
---
19.ly:55:59 error: syntax error, unexpected '~':
<<{a2\startTrillSpan}{s4 s8 s16 s32 s32\stopTrillSpan}>>
~ a8 gs a b
error: found error in this music expression. Ignoring it.
error: failed file 19.ly
--
How do I tie the trilled a2 to the a8?
Thanks,
Chip
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Re: MacOS X native packaged (was Re: lilypond install mac os x)
(Apologies to the moderator; I sent this from the wrong address at first.) On Feb 25, 2005, at 04:22, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: BTW, the description of getting Lilypond up and running on a pristine MacOS X (getting XCode, lots of compilation) seems rather involved. I wonder whether there would be any interest in a "native" MacOS X binary of Lilypond, with a pretty installer. An binary which is up and running in a minutes, and Just Works out-of-box. And: if you think that is cool idea, what would be a reasonable price? IMO the price is much less important than the implementation, because an ordinary Mac user's idea of Just Works is very different from yours. Here is my idea of the installation: When the user downloads your new installer, he should see an icon with a note beside it, "Double-click here to install Lilypond". And when he does so, there should be no questions, no choices to make, and the installer should not exit until it has processed "test.ly", displayed the corresponding PDF, and opened the documentation to the Introduction, all without user intervention. In addition, it would be good to install a clickable Lilypond icon in /Applications, even if its only function is to open whatever tools you include. (Which I assume would be something like the jEdit-with-plugins setup. Nobody who needs this possible new installer is going to have any idea what to do with Emacs, and conversely, anybody comfortable with Emacs won't be rushing to buy a new installer. Even jEdit is pretty weird if you're only used to OS X's TextEdit app.) If that kind of sophistication is possible, then I think it would make a significant difference to a lot of people who would otherwise never touch Lilypond, and a number of them might pay good money for it. If not, then the current setup works for people who are already comfortable with Fink, a terminal, etc. David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: adding a tie from a trill'd note to the next note
Hello.
There seems to be a bug related to the "trill span" command.
The following code
%-
\version "2.4.2"
\score {
\relative c'' {
\time 4/4
%a4 b c d |
<< { a2~\startTrillSpan } { s4 s8 s16 s32 s32\stopTrillSpan } >> a8 b c d |
}
}
%-
produce a very odd-looking output.
While if the previous bar is added in, it works.
Even so, I don't understand why the tie is curved upwards.
Best,
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Part Combine
I don't have lily 2.5.x, x > 0 on this computer yet (but waiting patiently!). One question: I am an intense user of part combining. The vast majority of the time I would rather have two noteheads appear on one stem rather than two stems pointing in opposite directions. Unfortunately, lily 2.4.2 would rather have the latter case occur. In a work I'm copying for Mutopia, two-stem passages occur very rarely -- maybe 5% of the whole score. lilypond's rendition uses it constantly -- around 80%. Sometimes it's OK, but sometimes it just looks ugly and absurd. Sometimes unison passages get two stems, too, instead of being marked with a2! (Although Erik kindly wrote me to indicate this has been fixed.) I wish I could isolate this problem into a single piece of code that could be copy-pasted into this message, but alas, it's everywhere, as I said. If anyone wants a copy of the output and then ask for snippets of code from that, I could easily arrange that. Best of luck with those nasty 2.5.x OS X segfaults, I have to smile and remember when you accuse me of that smell -- _ | WILL ORAM ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) | spamguy (at) foxchange . com - against HTML email X | wro1 (at) cwru . edu & vCards / \ | | AIM spamguy21 -- (ABOVE: Magnetic poetry #3) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: adding a tie from a trill'd note to the next note
Gilles wrote:
Hello.
There seems to be a bug related to the "trill span" command.
The following code
%-
\version "2.4.2"
\score {
\relative c'' {
\time 4/4
%a4 b c d |
<< { a2~\startTrillSpan } { s4 s8 s16 s32 s32\stopTrillSpan } >> a8 b c d |
}
}
%-
produce a very odd-looking output.
While if the previous bar is added in, it works.
Even so, I don't understand why the tie is curved upwards.
I got it to work, all I did was add the tilde between the 2 and the \
with no spaces and now it is working properly. But I do get this error now:
--
converting to 19.dvi...
error invoking 'latex \\nonstopmode \\input 19.tex > /dev/null 2>&1.'
return value 256
converting to 19.ps...
converting to 19.pdf...
--
I don't know anything about the error, cause or effect, but the .pdf is
output fine.
Regards,
Chip
Best,
Gilles
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