Re: german mailinglist for lilypond?

[Werner LEMBERG]

> If there were enough persons interested in, then perhaps with a
> little bit help I could maintain a german mailinglist.

While being a native German speaker, I fear I won't have enough time
to discuss problems on two lists...


Werner


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Re: starting lilypond from Windows XP

[Mats Bengtsson]

It seems that the setup.exe program failed to install all necessary
packages. Simply rerunning setup.exe once more will usually solve these
kind of problems. In the package selection window, you should make sure
that the packages libkpathsea3 libkpathsea3abi13, tetex-bin and
tetex-tiny are selected (all from the Publishing category). They should
be selected by default as soon as you have selected the lilypond
package, but it seems that setup.exe fails occassionally.
   /Mats
Gerard Salvan wrote:
Hi, i try to start lilypond but i do not succed !
 
I proceed the test test.ly and nothing appears only a dos window with a 
lot of 'failed, cmd not found...". I have all mys dowloaded files in a 
directory and apparently the install files in c:\cygwin...
 
In PJ the test.log files...
 
Thank you for help...
 
Regards
 
Gerard


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Re: Difficulties with testing installation on a Mac

[Paul Morris]

Thanks for the help, Mathias and Christ,  things are better, but I'm 
not home yet.  see below.

On Nov 22, 2004, at 12:05 PM, Matthias Neeracher wrote:
That was the up-to-date version when your binary install of fink was 
bundled. It's fairly out of date, that's why you need selfupdate.
Ah, now I see how it works/ why it's not the latest...
Ah, it seems your earlier install was a binary install?
Yep, which is what the Fink installation instructions recommended for 
first timers...

Switching back to the stable tree and running "fink selfupdate-rsync" 
should work and give you a 2.4.x binary package to install.
Well, everything seems to be working fine now, but the version numbers 
I'm seeing don't look right...
I installed the developer tools, and then tried going back to the 
stable tree and doing rsync then update all and it still shows as 2.2.x 
in the binary and source columns.  I tried the unstable tree with rsync 
and got 2.4.x in the source, but still only 2.2.x in the binary  (2.5.x 
for lilypond-unstable)  I've still been using the Fink Controller app. 
(The Fink Commander suggested, but didn't require the developer tools 
to be installed)

Any suggestions?
Thanks again,
Paul
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Re: Difficulties with testing installation on a Mac

[Christ van Willegen]

Hi Paul,

> Yep, which is what the Fink installation instructions recommended for
> first timers...

:

> and got 2.4.x in the source, but still only 2.2.x in the binary  (2.5.x
> for lilypond-unstable)  I've still been using the Fink Controller app.

Apparently, the binary build for Fink is still 'stuck' at 2.2. Strange
that the unstable brach _does_ show 2.5 (binary, I presume?)...

If you're really a 'first-timer', you should just leave it at that, get the
2.2, and work with that until the binaries get built, or you get enough
'courage' to get your feet wet and build it from source.

Despite the uneasy feelings you may have about building from source,
it usually doesn't require much technical knowledge, and only takes
a couple of hours in the worst case. And that's time that your computer
needs to download and build, not time you need to invest to build the
program.

Those are the only options I see right now...

HTH!

Christ


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ETF conversion

[Joshua Koo]

Hi,

I trying to use the ETF converter and to be integrated with the lily4jedit 
plugin.

However, I get this error.

LilyPond ready.
etf2ly   --output=/cygdrive/c/temp/hand-m12.ETF.ly /cygdrive/C/TEMP/hand-m12.ETF
etf2ly from LilyPond 2.2.2
Processing `/cygdrive/C/TEMP/hand-m12.ETF'
parsing ... 
reconstructing ...Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/etf2ly", line 1208, in ?
e = Etf_file(dict)
  File "/usr/bin/etf2ly", line 901, in __init__
self.parse (name)
  File "/usr/bin/etf2ly", line 1029, in parse
routine (self, k, etf_dict[tag][k])
  File "/usr/bin/etf2ly", line 939, in try_verse
body = contents[0]
IndexError: list index out of range
LilyPond ready.

Anyone knows what's happening?

Thanks,
Joshua Koo



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Re: ETF conversion

[Mats Bengtsson]

The ETF converter hasn't been very actively supported. One reason is
that the ETF format isn't really well documented, as far as I
understand. I think everybody would be happy if you were willing to
take a look at this converter and make it work better.
I'm sure you can find some old emails in the mailings list archives
on previously reported problems with the converter.
   /Mats
Joshua Koo wrote:
Hi,
I trying to use the ETF converter and to be integrated with the lily4jedit 
plugin.
However, I get this error.
LilyPond ready.
etf2ly   --output=/cygdrive/c/temp/hand-m12.ETF.ly /cygdrive/C/TEMP/hand-m12.ETF
etf2ly from LilyPond 2.2.2
Processing `/cygdrive/C/TEMP/hand-m12.ETF'
parsing ... 
reconstructing ...Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/etf2ly", line 1208, in ?
e = Etf_file(dict)
  File "/usr/bin/etf2ly", line 901, in __init__
self.parse (name)
  File "/usr/bin/etf2ly", line 1029, in parse
routine (self, k, etf_dict[tag][k])
  File "/usr/bin/etf2ly", line 939, in try_verse
body = contents[0]
IndexError: list index out of range
LilyPond ready.

Anyone knows what's happening?
Thanks,
Joshua Koo

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ETF conversion

[Ben Crowell]

I bought a copy of Finale about 7 years ago. Because I bought
it, they gave me a license to download and read the documentation
for ETF format, which I did. IIRC, you actually needed to put
in a password on their web site in order to access the docs.
I e-mailed them to ask if they thought it was legal for me to
show the docs to other people, and they never replied. I don't
remember whether there was a EULA.

I never intend to use Finale again, so if there's a lilypond
developer who's interested in working more on the ETF-ly
converter, I'd be happy to donate my copy of Finale, which
would then presumably make it legal for that person to use
the ETF docs. (Well, at least that's my interpretation under
the doctrine of first sale in U.S. copyright law, but IANAL,
and I guess most of the lilypond developers are in Europe.
I also haven't looked carefully to see if they're claiming
it's a trade secret or something.) The ETF documentation was
actually quite complete and well written.



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ETF conversion

[Han-Wen Nienhuys]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I bought a copy of Finale about 7 years ago. Because I bought
> it, they gave me a license to download and read the documentation
> for ETF format, which I did. IIRC, you actually needed to put
> in a password on their web site in order to access the docs.
> I e-mailed them to ask if they thought it was legal for me to
> show the docs to other people, and they never replied. I don't
> remember whether there was a EULA.
> 
> I never intend to use Finale again, so if there's a lilypond
> developer who's interested in working more on the ETF-ly
> converter, I'd be happy to donate my copy of Finale, which
> would then presumably make it legal for that person to use
> the ETF docs. (Well, at least that's my interpretation under
> the doctrine of first sale in U.S. copyright law, but IANAL,
> and I guess most of the lilypond developers are in Europe.
> I also haven't looked carefully to see if they're claiming
> it's a trade secret or something.) The ETF documentation was
> actually quite complete and well written.

this would not perchance be the same as

  http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen/lily-devel/etfspec.pdf

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Please help me with Windows XP install...

[B L]

Hello :)
Can you please tell me what files (and how/where to find them) I need to 
install LilyPond most recent release on WINdows XP? I was reading the 
windows help page but I was confused about some things (Cygwin etc) Thank 
you very much. If you can give me stepbystep...I would really appreciate 
that. Thank you so much! Keep up the great work :)

-Brian

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2.4.2 header questions

[D Josiah Boothby]

Hello list,
The documentation pertaining to headers has been a bit confusing to me, so 
I'm taking my questions here:

With a multimovement piece, how do I get a large roman numeral centered 
between movements indicating which movement is beginning?

Similarly, how do I get a header indicating which instrument a part is for 
on each page?

And lastly, if I have a footnote, how do I do that? Should I be using 
lilypond-book?

Josiah
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documentation question

[D Josiah Boothby]

in the documentation for v. 2.4.2 regarding the difference between \paper 
and \layout (this again!), \paper is described in section 7.5.11, but 
should that be \layout?

is it possible that some description of the difference between \layout and 
\paper can make it into the documentation? this is quite confusing.

josiah
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Re: Difficulties with testing installation on a Mac

[Paul Morris]

Hi Christ,
On Nov 23, 2004, at 10:00 AM, Christ van Willegen wrote:
Apparently, the binary build for Fink is still 'stuck' at 2.2. Strange
that the unstable brach _does_ show 2.5 (binary, I presume?)...
Actually this 2.5 vsn was the lily-unstable source, with nothing in the 
lily-unstable binary...

If you're really a 'first-timer', you should just leave it at that, 
get the
2.2, and work with that until the binaries get built, or you get enough
'courage' to get your feet wet and build it from source.
Maybe I'll try building from source, or perhaps just wait for the 2.4 
binary to arrive.  I'm not in too big of a hurry...

Thanks for the help!
Paul
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Re: Please help me with Windows XP install...

[Patrick Hubers]

B L schreef:
Can you please tell me what files (and how/where to find them) I need to 
install LilyPond most recent release on WINdows XP? I was reading the 
windows help page but I was confused about some things (Cygwin etc) 
Thank you very much. If you can give me stepbystep...I would really 
appreciate that. Thank you so much! Keep up the great work :)
What exactly is unclear to you? If you go to 
 you will get a step by 
step installation guide.

As for Cygwin: since Lilypond is basically a Unix program, you'll need a 
Unix emulation layer to run it on Windows, which is what Cygwin 
provides. Fortunately, it'll all be installed if you simply follow the 
instructions on the page I mentioned.

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Re: documentation question

[D Josiah Boothby]

I think I figured this out on my own (though I still think the 
documentation seems a bit vague on the matter):

\layout is for inside the \score block, where \paper is for outside the 
\score block.

Josiah
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, D Josiah Boothby wrote:
in the documentation for v. 2.4.2 regarding the difference between \paper and 
\layout (this again!), \paper is described in section 7.5.11, but should that 
be \layout?

is it possible that some description of the difference between \layout and 
\paper can make it into the documentation? this is quite confusing.

josiah
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