KX-T: Emergency 911 implications of extending KX-TD extensions to another site (Was: General Question)

2003-09-10 Thread Paul H. Gusciora
 moving ONE employee to a site that is about a 5500 foot drive,  but 
only 3200 feet airline
If the main site has POTS lines from the CO into the KX-TD, calls 
will show the CID and location assigned to that line.

Suppose someone at that location dials 911 for emergency services 
(say heart attack), and then hangs up (say looses consciousness), the 
phone company registry will report the location where the CO lines 
terminate. Emergency responders will show up at the main site -- the 
wrong location.

This is an issue if you use a clear pair (our ILEC terminology for 
conditioned pair), VoIP with internet connections, VoIP using 
802.11b, or even the long-range EnGenious portable phones.

With an ISDN-PRI into your switch, you have some more options about 
what is displayed to the called party. You might even have some 
options with an ISDN-BRI into your switch. This is a topic that 
frequently comes up on the Avaya mail list 
http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/Avaya-List

Paul H. Gusciora
Chemical Engineer, Systems Scientist
San Rafael, CA
--- Original Message ---
From: Don Ritchie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: KX-T: General Question
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 19:40:53 -0400
I have a rather "low tech" Customer, KXTD 1232 with Voicegate VIP 
4000 with 36 telephones
plus 4 port VM. 10 analog keysets from the old KXT1232,  8 Digital 
sets and using  the other half of the ports for single lines plus 
another 10 single. I tell you this to explain how they have 40 ports 
out of a 32 port system, although I'm sure MOST of you figured this 
out without my explanation. The customer has almost NO data network ( 
4 ascii dumb terminals working on a PC- MOS - yuk)

Now, I know you have been waiting, my question has ALMOST nothing to 
do with the telephones or data.
The customer is moving ONE employee to a site that is about a 5500 
foot drive,  but only 3200 feet airline
and just a little over 20,000 cable feet thru the C.O.

You guessed it, they want a telephone at the "new" location. I can't 
seem to get anybody at SBC that can even give me an idea as to the 
cost of a circuit between the two locations, IF a Single line will 
even work at that distance?

The "prime" site has a small tower on the roof  ( 30 feet above 
ground) and the "remote" location has a 120 foot tower
that used to have their radio system on it, in the days BEFORE Nextel.

I did a google search for " point to point wireless link" and got 
over 700 hits, I have just spent the last couple hours
scanning the links and can not find what I'm really looking for- 
anyone have any helpful ideas, I would like to do this for
less then $2500.00 ( and I don't think  ENGENIUS is the answer)

Thanks

Don Ritchie  - System Engineer
Century Communications
460 East 270 Street
Euclid, OH 44132-1708
216-731-3030
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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KX-T: Re: Emergency 911 implications of extending KX-TD extensions to another site (Was: General Question)

2003-09-10 Thread Jim Marks
 IMHO The odds of that are miniscule.  What if someone at a corporate office
bldg dials 911 & falls over? There is a LOT more than 3200 feet to look
through in a small 20 story office? could be 25,000 or more personnel.  Let
the Snakes worry about it after it happens..JIM

Jim Marks
Denville Wiring Systems
Panasonic Phones & Voicemail
N.J. 973-627-7088


From: "Paul H. Gusciora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "KX-T Help" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Don Ritchie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 3:43 PM
Subject: KX-T: Emergency 911 implications of extending KX-TD extensions to
another site (Was: General Question)


> >  moving ONE employee to a site that is about a 5500 foot drive,  but
> >only 3200 feet airline
>
> If the main site has POTS lines from the CO into the KX-TD, calls
> will show the CID and location assigned to that line.
>
> Suppose someone at that location dials 911 for emergency services
> (say heart attack), and then hangs up (say looses consciousness), the
> phone company registry will report the location where the CO lines
> terminate. Emergency responders will show up at the main site -- the
> wrong location.


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KX-T: Email test

2003-09-10 Thread Mel Waldner
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Mel Waldner


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KX-T: point to point wireless

2003-09-10 Thread Don Ritchie
Well, now the search for the "best bang for the buck"
Have decided I will pitch point to point "wan" and VoIP for my 1KM  "loop"
Right at this moment it looks like QuickBridge P to P "kit" with two 
access points and yagis plus coax
for around 1600 to 1800 end user plus valcom Vip 810 and 820  OR Multi 
tech MVP 110 and 120 "gateways'
@ around  400 to 500 each ( end user)

Has anyone used any of this stuff? What's good / bad  ?

The "other" solutions to this "problem" are twice the money.

I'm going to "pitch" it in late morning.

Thanks

Don Ritchie  - System Engineer
Century Communications
460 East 270 Street
Euclid, OH 44132-1708
216-731-3030
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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KX-T: Re: point to point wireless

2003-09-10 Thread Charles Patterson
Good luck,
let us know how the project goes.

charles

- Original Message - 
From: "Don Ritchie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 7:42 PM
Subject: KX-T: point to point wireless


> Well, now the search for the "best bang for the buck"
> Have decided I will pitch point to point "wan" and VoIP for my 1KM  "loop"
> Right at this moment it looks like QuickBridge P to P "kit" with two
> access points and yagis plus coax
> for around 1600 to 1800 end user plus valcom Vip 810 and 820  OR Multi
> tech MVP 110 and 120 "gateways'
> @ around  400 to 500 each ( end user)
>
> Has anyone used any of this stuff? What's good / bad  ?
>
> The "other" solutions to this "problem" are twice the money.
>
> I'm going to "pitch" it in late morning.
>
> Thanks
>
> Don Ritchie  - System Engineer
> Century Communications
> 460 East 270 Street
> Euclid, OH 44132-1708
> 216-731-3030
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> When you stop believing in Santa Claus is when you start getting clothes
for Christmas!
>
>
>
>
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KX-T: TVS50

2003-09-10 Thread weslakerudy
Hi;

Installed a TVS50 a now new customer bought on the internet. Set dip switchs to 
"normal" position after setup. Tried to delete the "good am-pm" prompts and company 
name prompt and the system freaked out and played greeting to mbox 112 as the main 
greeting. Unpluged the system, restarted, it went back to playing "good am-pm, company 
greeting prompts. I created a customer menu where the customer can record the whole 
company greeting instead of having to change user prompts. How do I delete the prompts 
instead of recording silence and having them "stick" if the system loses power?

Thanks,
Rudy

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Re: KX-T: TVS50

2003-09-10 Thread Carl Navarro
At 01:11 AM 9/11/2003 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hi;
>
>Installed a TVS50 a now new customer bought on the internet. Set dip
switchs to "normal" position after setup. Tried to delete the "good am-pm"
prompts and company name prompt and the system freaked out and played
greeting to mbox 112 as the main greeting. Unpluged the system, restarted,
it went back to playing "good am-pm, company greeting prompts. I created a
customer menu where the customer can record the whole company greeting
instead of having to change user prompts. How do I delete the prompts
instead of recording silence and having them "stick" if the system loses
power?

I'm doing this from memory, but somewhere you set up custom service menus
(my favorite is 30 for day and 60 for night using prompt 1.  Then you go
into change custom prompts (6 5 ?) and record 248,249,250 and something
like 713.  One of the options is turn off the prompt and that's what you do.

If this isn't right, I'm sure someone else will jump in and RTFM :-)

Carl Navarro




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Re: KX-T: TVS50

2003-09-10 Thread larry
did that again yesterday 

1. set for user1 every place you have the option (sys,u1,u2)

2. msg mgr, modify user prompts. user1

3. record new prompt (2 seconds open mike, then press 1) for 819,248,249,250.

4. now "rerecord" for same prompts, except now you can "turn off the prompt"

5. check utils/mplt to see if you hit the right ones ;-)


next week i go back and turn off the "training wheels" ;-)

 "you have new message, 1 new message, new message" becomes "one, one"




the lastest cd manual now has a lot of the hints you saw here first, 
like turning off the above prompts might be desired ;-)   

btw- there is no company greetings on a 50.


sorry guys, i never did get my crossreference table done, 
with old system prompt numbers / new system prompt numbers and text listing.

i have the text files if someone wants to complete the project


-larry


9/11/03 12:11:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Hi;
>
>Installed a TVS50 a now new customer bought on the internet. Set dip switchs to 
>"normal" position after setup. 
Tried to delete the "good am-pm" prompts and company name prompt and the system 
freaked out and played greeting to 
mbox 112 as the main greeting. Unpluged the system, restarted, it went back to playing 
"good am-pm, company greeting 
prompts. I created a customer menu where the customer can record the whole company 
greeting instead of having to 
change user prompts. How do I delete the prompts instead of recording silence and 
having them "stick" if the system 
loses power?
>
>Thanks,
>Rudy
>




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