KX-T: Certification Doesn't mean Nasty.
I have been watching this form for several months. I'm a certified Technician and I have had a few questions answered by watching what responces are sent between participants. In fact I had a question answered that Tech Support couldn't answer for me. I thought that this was a help form for those who are interested in Panasonic KX-T Systems. Some of the certified people who get Nasty with the novice are not what I like to see. In fact I have recommended to some of my customer to register on this form if they have an interest in maintaining there own systems. That is what I thought this form was for. So by being nasty about information doesn't help. Enough said. Sorry but this was not to be Nasty it was to Help build a good dialoge between participants. _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
RE: KX-T: Certification Class availability
1. Most classes are 3-5 days. 2. Class Schedules are compiled and posted on a quarterly basis, You must call your Panasonic regional rep for class schedule and access. Classes are usually at Panasonic in NJ, but there are classes in Atlanta too. There is a pre-class exam for the tech you are sending to insure that the students have a certain level of knowledge. 3. $800.00 4. NO, see answer in #2 5. You get whoever is available to teach the class. The NJ class is better because the tech support team is there to help the instructor or if you have specific needs that the instructor can't answer, he has a source down the hall. Wolfgang -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul H. Gusciora Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 14:31 To: KXT Mailing list Subject: KX-T: Certification Class availibility Several people have commented/questioned about the KX-TD* certification class. I would like to formalize the questions: 1. How long does the training last? 2. When and where is the training? 3. How much does the training cost? 4. Is there a Panasonic web site that lists the schedule? 5. Are any instructors to be sought out or avoided? Paul Gusciora San Rafael, CA BTW: In the DCS (distributed control systems: e.g Honeywell, Foxboro, Bailey, Yokogawa,...) world, training classes are an important source of revenue for the manufacturer. === From: David Lesher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (KXT Mailing list) Subject: KX-T: Digital $ertification? Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:19:28 -0500 (EST) I got asked: What's the current cost for the certification class? SE US location? How much telco background is assumed? -- A host is a host from coast to [EMAIL PROTECTED] & no one will talk to a host that's close[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead20915-1433 === From: David Jeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: KXT Mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: KX-T: KX-TD816 & TVS-110 problem with programmator Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 21:46:25 -0600 ...snip And for those of you wanting to rant on me, I am not authorized YET, but I am awaiting a class this spring, so I'm doing the best I can until then. David Jeter Total Home Entertainment _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
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RE: KX-T: Certification Class availability
Wolfgang: Thanks for answering my previous questions. Of course, your timely answers inspired more. 6. Where do I find the list of Panasonic Regional rep's? In addition to providing me with the class schedule, It seems that this person would be a good source of who is already certified in my area. 7. How many students are in each class? How many teachers? 8. Does the class include working with the hardware, or is it all lecture / reading. 9. Does one get to learn about / try out the ISDN and/or T1 stuff Paul Gusciora San Rafael, CA From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Paul H. Gusciora" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "KXT Mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: KX-T: Certification Class availability Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 15:08:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600. Importance: Normal 1. Most classes are 3-5 days. 2. Class Schedules are compiled and posted on a quarterly basis, You must call your Panasonic regional rep for class schedule and access. Classes are usually at Panasonic in NJ, but there are classes in Atlanta too. There is a pre-class exam for the tech you are sending to insure that the students have a certain level of knowledge. 3. $800.00 4. NO, see answer in #2 5. You get whoever is available to teach the class. The NJ class is better because the tech support team is there to help the instructor or if you have specific needs that the instructor can't answer, he has a source down the hall. Wolfgang -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul H. Gusciora Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 14:31 To: KXT Mailing list Subject: KX-T: Certification Class availibility Several people have commented/questioned about the KX-TD* certification class. I would like to formalize the questions: 1. How long does the training last? 2. When and where is the training? 3. How much does the training cost? 4. Is there a Panasonic web site that lists the schedule? 5. Are any instructors to be sought out or avoided? Paul Gusciora San Rafael, CA BTW: In the DCS (distributed control systems: e.g Honeywell, Foxboro, Bailey, Yokogawa,...) world, training classes are an important source of revenue for the manufacturer. === From: David Lesher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (KXT Mailing list) Subject: KX-T: Digital $ertification? Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:19:28 -0500 (EST) I got asked: What's the current cost for the certification class? SE US location? How much telco background is assumed? -- A host is a host from coast to [EMAIL PROTECTED] & no one will talk to a host that's close[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead20915-1433 === From: David Jeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: KXT Mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: KX-T: KX-TD816 & TVS-110 problem with programmator Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 21:46:25 -0600 ...snip And for those of you wanting to rant on me, I am not authorized YET, but I am awaiting a class this spring, so I'm doing the best I can until then. David Jeter Total Home Entertainment _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: moh cords
In-line amplifier? mike sandman has 'em for <$20 http://www.sandman.com/accy.html scroll down At 10:49 PM 02/07/2002 -0600, David Jeter wrote: > >One more for the knights of the KXT roundtable. > >We have a client that has an KX-TA624 system, with 7000 series phones. We >have installed a nifty little wireless headset receiver made by Plantronics, >and it's base interfaces through the handset cord of the phone. The clients >(nurses) have complained that the volume is not high enough to be useable. >We went ahead and installed a KX-TD7895 cordless phone, with a headset, and >they love it. They will, however , put the headset to use if we can get the >volume up. What I did today is change the headset system over to another >phone, in case there was some problem with the one that was in use; made >sure that the switch on the back of the phone was pushed over to the >"headset" position, and made sure that the switch on the side of the phone >was set to the "high" volume setting. Is there anything else? I know that on >some other systems in the past that I have worked on (Vodavi Starplus >digital), that there were some programmable volume settings, but I didn't >think the case would be the same on an analog system. For the record, I >think the volume level is fine, but it is maxed out on the headset receiver, >so there is little to no room for variation in the 'personal preference' of >others. > > > >Thanks, > >David Jeter >Total Home Entertainment > > >_ >KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ >Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt > > _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Fw: KX-T: Certification Class availability
Additionally, I have attended several classes, in Cypress California and Seattle Washington. Don Nulph is one of the 2 trainers in the CA offices, he has been with Panasonic many years, does a good class. In the TD and VM class I think there were 8 teams of 2 persons. In the 500 class I think there were 8 persons. Its hands on. In the 500 class you have to configure T1, and tie lines, etc. If you don't know who is the local rep, contact the local wholesalers, Graybar, Alltel etc. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Paul H. Gusciora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; KXT Mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 12:08 PM Subject: RE: KX-T: Certification Class availability > 1. Most classes are 3-5 days. > 2. Class Schedules are compiled and posted on a quarterly basis, You must > call your Panasonic regional rep for class schedule and access. Classes are > usually at Panasonic in NJ, but there are classes in Atlanta too. There is a > pre-class exam for the tech you are sending to insure that the students have > a certain level of knowledge. > 3. $800.00 > 4. NO, see answer in #2 > 5. You get whoever is available to teach the class. The NJ class is better > because the tech support team is there to help the instructor or if you have > specific needs that the instructor can't answer, he has a source down the > hall. > > Wolfgang > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Paul H. Gusciora > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 14:31 > To: KXT Mailing list > Subject: KX-T: Certification Class availibility > > > Several people have commented/questioned about the KX-TD* certification > class. > > I would like to formalize the questions: > > 1. How long does the training last? > 2. When and where is the training? > 3. How much does the training cost? > 4. Is there a Panasonic web site that lists the schedule? > 5. Are any instructors to be sought out or avoided? > > Paul Gusciora > San Rafael, CA > > BTW: In the DCS (distributed control systems: e.g Honeywell, Foxboro, > Bailey, Yokogawa,...) world, training classes are an important source of > revenue for the manufacturer. > > > > === > From: David Lesher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (KXT Mailing list) > Subject: KX-T: Digital $ertification? > Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 08:19:28 -0500 (EST) > > I got asked: > > What's the current cost for the certification class? > SE US location? > How much telco background is assumed? > > -- > A host is a host from coast to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > & no one will talk to a host that's close[v].(301) 56-LINUX > Unless the host (that isn't close).pob 1433 > is busy, hung or dead20915-1433 > === > > From: David Jeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: KXT Mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: KX-T: KX-TD816 & TVS-110 problem with programmator > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 21:46:25 -0600 > > ...snip > > And for those of you wanting to rant on me, I am not authorized YET, but I > am awaiting a class this spring, so I'm doing the best I can until then. > > > David Jeter > Total Home Entertainment > > > > _ > KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ > Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt > > > _ > KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ > Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
KX-T: Re: Certification Doesn't mean Nasty.
AHMEN Jim Schultz Schultz Communications - Original Message - From: "Mack's Communications" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 10:44 AM Subject: KX-T: Certification Doesn't mean Nasty. > I have been watching this form for several months. I'm a certified Technician and I have had a few questions answered by watching what responces are sent between participants. In fact I had a question answered that Tech Support couldn't answer for me. > > I thought that this was a help form for those who are interested in Panasonic KX-T Systems. Some of the certified people who get Nasty with the novice are not what I like to see. In fact I have recommended to some of my customer to register on this form if they have an interest in maintaining there own systems. That is what I thought this form was for. So by being nasty about information doesn't help. > > Enough said. Sorry but this was not to be Nasty it was to Help build a good dialoge between participants. > > > _ > KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ > Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt > _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: Fw: KX-T: Certification Class availability
Is there a list of zone reps, or is this one of those tribal secrets, passed down from chief to son in dead of night ;-? -- A host is a host from coast to [EMAIL PROTECTED] & no one will talk to a host that's close[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead20915-1433 _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
RE: KX-T: Re: Certification Doesn't mean Nasty.
As a 'civilian', I think there are a few 'rules' folks need to follow: 1. Understand that you are asking for free help, and nobody is obliged to give this to you. 2. Try not to ask stupid questions: Make a reasonable attempt to research the info first. If it is clear that you are not 'getting it' you'll need to bring in outside help. Only so much handholding can be done. (Should I suggest that the manual is a minimum requirement?) 3. Be gracious. Your frustrations are not caused by the folks here- rest assured that they (may) share in your frustrations with Panasonic. Just my observations. With 2 years of emails from this board, I can pretty much do anything I need to on my system. Thanks Guys! Adam -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Schultz Comm Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 4:55 AM To: Mack's Communications; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: KX-T: Re: Certification Doesn't mean Nasty. AHMEN Jim Schultz Schultz Communications - Original Message - From: "Mack's Communications" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 10:44 AM Subject: KX-T: Certification Doesn't mean Nasty. > I have been watching this form for several months. I'm a certified Technician and I have had a few questions answered by watching what responces are sent between participants. In fact I had a question answered that Tech Support couldn't answer for me. > > I thought that this was a help form for those who are interested in Panasonic KX-T Systems. Some of the certified people who get Nasty with the novice are not what I like to see. In fact I have recommended to some of my customer to register on this form if they have an interest in maintaining there own systems. That is what I thought this form was for. So by being nasty about information doesn't help. > > Enough said. Sorry but this was not to be Nasty it was to Help build a good dialoge between participants. > > > _ > KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ > Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt > _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
RE: KX-T: Re: Certification Doesn't mean Nasty.
At 08:23 AM 2/10/2002 -0800, Adam Savakus wrote: >As a 'civilian', I think there are a few 'rules' folks need to follow: > >1. Understand that you are asking for free help, and nobody is obliged to >give this to you. > >2. Try not to ask stupid questions: Make a reasonable attempt to research >the info first. If it is clear that you are not 'getting it' you'll need to >bring in outside help. Only so much handholding can be done. (Should I >suggest that the manual is a minimum requirement?) > >3. Be gracious. Your frustrations are not caused by the folks here- rest >assured that they (may) share in your frustrations with Panasonic. > >Just my observations. With 2 years of emails from this board, I can pretty >much do anything I need to on my system. > >Thanks Guys! > >Adam Thank you Adam. It's disheartening to have someone without a manual run to the kxt board and ask questions to obvious answers. Of course, I confess, I went through a "black period" around Christmas time where my answers weren't as positive as they should have been. I resolved to give free answers that take about 30 seconds to research or not answer at all. Seems fair enough to me. Carl Navarro _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
KX-T: 624 follow up on low door intercom volume
Thanks everyone for all your suggestions. The card and the door box were OK. Wires were more than adequate. The suggestion that worked and worked well was to cut the speaker wire and extend it just overhead to a 40 watt alarm speaker [8 ohms] available from any alarm supplier. Works great and customer is happy. No amplifier was needed though that would have been my next step. And with I95 on an overhead pass within 100 feet and a 4 lane road out front, it is a very noisy environment. So thanks again for all the suggestions. Bob Bruskin Halstead Electronics Ltd. multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
Re: KX-T: Re: Certification Doesn't mean Nasty.
In a message dated 2/10/02 3:31:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > It's disheartening to have someone without a manual run to the kxt board > and ask questions to obvious answers. > Of course, I confess, I went through a "black period" around Christmas time > where my answers weren't as positive as they should have been. I resolved > to give free answers that take about 30 seconds to research or not answer > at all. Seems fair enough to me. > > Carl Navarro We all go thru the "black period" when we've come in from a hard day, and decide to see what email we have from the board. What seems obvious to us sometimes is just that. But how many times have you had the obvious stare you in the face, and still miss it? The guys who complain about the system not working when they use programminator, is just one example. The software was designed as a hack for the software us certified guys have. In my opinion, and this is just my opinion, there is no substitute for the real thing. You don't put GM parts on a Ford and expect it to run 100%. The same is true with 2nd party software. It's close, but not perfect. Dimitri may do a good job with it, and I've looked at the demo, it's just not something I'd use, because of the holes in it. Nothing is better than good solid training, and the RIGHT tools. That's what us certified guys offer. Steve L. Martin http://www.geocities.com/surfsidesound/";>Surf Side Sound, Inc. multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html _ KX-T Mailing list --- http://kxthelp.com/ Subscription changes: http://kxthelp.com/mailman/listinfo/kxt
