Re: [imp] pecl install modules

2013-02-27 Thread simon
> On 27 February 2013 23:05, Michael J Rubinsky  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Quoting peter lawrie 
>> 
>>> :
>> 
>> Just starting to install horde (H5) for the fourth time!.
>>> Looking at the pecl install instructions
>>> You suggest fileinfo memcache imagicj and lzf
>>> For each I need to have a file in /etc/php.d such as fileinfo.ini
>>> containing extension=fileinfo.so
>>> That's fine for fileinfo because I have
>>> # find / -name "*fileinfo.so*" -print
>>> /usr/lib64/php/modules/**fileinfo.so
>>> 
>>> 
>>> However for lzf, memcache and imagick I don't have a .so file
>>> Running pecl install imagick for instance gives
>>> # pecl install imagick
>>> downloading imagick-3.0.1.tgz ...
>>> Starting to download imagick-3.0.1.tgz (93,920 bytes)
>>> .done: 93,920 bytes
>>> 13 source files, building
>>> running: phpize
>>> sh: phpize: command not found
>>> ERROR: `phpize' failed
>>> 
>>> I don't have phpize, it appears it is in php-devel-5.3.3-22.el6.x86_64
>>> which I don't have (I have php-5.3.3-22 and php-common and php-cli)
>>> but I cannot find this anywhere in yum or elsewhere. Redhat refer to it
>>> but
>>> it does not appear to be obtainable!
>>> Any suggestions?
>> 
>> There *has* to be some php-devel pacakge in your repo. Try maybe just
>> php-devel (and not the entire version string).
>> 
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> Mike
> I agree there "has" to be one, but there isn't
> I tried installing one I downloaded but it has to agree with the
> php-5.3.3-22, php--cli and php-common I have
> php-devel is not in yum for redhat.
> 
>  # yum install php-devel-5.3.3-22
> Loaded plugins: product-id, rhnplugin, subscription-manager
> This system is not registered to Red Hat Subscription Management. You can
> use subscription-manager to register.
> This system is receiving updates from RHN Classic or RHN Satellite.
> Setting up Install Process
> No package php-devel-5.3.3-22 available.
> Error: Nothing to do
> When I google install php-devel-5.3.3-22 redhat
> I get to various redhat pages which list the rpm but will not allow me to
> download it.
> I have confirmed that the server is new and registered with RedHat
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RHEL package list confirms there is no php-devel package included. :-0 that's 
nuts. 

It's in CentOS 6 but different minor version. 

I did find a thread on linuxquestions that refers to enabling the RHEL 
"optional" repo to get php-devel. Apparently that is done through the RHN 
website. 

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Re: [imp] pecl install modules

2013-02-28 Thread simon

> On 28 February 2013 10:40, peter lawrie  
> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 28 February 2013 03:09,  wrote:
>>> > On 27 February 2013 23:05, Michael J Rubinsky  wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Quoting peter lawrie 
>>> >> 
>>> >>> :
>>> >>
>>> >> Just starting to install horde (H5) for the fourth time!.
>>> >>> Looking at the pecl install instructions
>>> >>> You suggest fileinfo memcache imagicj and lzf
>>> >>> For each I need to have a file in /etc/php.d such as fileinfo.ini
>>> >>> containing extension=fileinfo.so
>>> >>> That's fine for fileinfo because I have
>>> >>> # find / -name "*fileinfo.so*" -print
>>> >>> /usr/lib64/php/modules/**fileinfo.so
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> However for lzf, memcache and imagick I don't have a .so file
>>> >>> Running pecl install imagick for instance gives
>>> >>> # pecl install imagick
>>> >>> downloading imagick-3.0.1.tgz ...
>>> >>> Starting to download imagick-3.0.1.tgz (93,920 bytes)
>>> >>> .done: 93,920 bytes
>>> >>> 13 source files, building
>>> >>> running: phpize
>>> >>> sh: phpize: command not found
>>> >>> ERROR: `phpize' failed
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I don't have phpize, it appears it is in php-devel-5.3.3-22.el6.x86_64
>>> >>> which I don't have (I have php-5.3.3-22 and php-common and php-cli)
>>> >>> but I cannot find this anywhere in yum or elsewhere. Redhat refer to it
>>> >>> but
>>> >>> it does not appear to be obtainable!
>>> >>> Any suggestions?
>>> >>
>>> >> There *has* to be some php-devel pacakge in your repo. Try maybe just
>>> >> php-devel (and not the entire version string).
>>> >>
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>>> >>
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>>> >> mrubi...@horde.org
>>> >>
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>>> >
>>> > Mike
>>> > I agree there "has" to be one, but there isn't
>>> > I tried installing one I downloaded but it has to agree with the
>>> > php-5.3.3-22, php--cli and php-common I have
>>> > php-devel is not in yum for redhat.
>>> >
>>> >  # yum install php-devel-5.3.3-22
>>> > Loaded plugins: product-id, rhnplugin, subscription-manager
>>> > This system is not registered to Red Hat Subscription Management. You can
>>> > use subscription-manager to register.
>>> > This system is receiving updates from RHN Classic or RHN Satellite.
>>> > Setting up Install Process
>>> > No package php-devel-5.3.3-22 available.
>>> > Error: Nothing to do
>>> > When I google install php-devel-5.3.3-22 redhat
>>> > I get to various redhat pages which list the rpm but will not allow me to
>>> > download it.
>>> > I have confirmed that the server is new and registered with RedHat
>>> > Peter Lawrie
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>>> 
>>> RHEL package list confirms there is no php-devel package included. :-0 
>>> that's nuts.
>>> 
>>> It's in CentOS 6 but different minor version.
>>> 
>>> I did find a thread on linuxquestions that refers to enabling the RHEL 
>>> "optional" repo to get php-devel. Apparently that is done through the RHN 
>>> website.
>>> 
>>> Simon.
>> Hi Simon
>> Thank you for the response. I have a centos6.3 server on my desk and as you 
>> say, their php-devel is a different version so I decided not try it. I used 
>> to install the old redhat (7, 8 and 9) but when they went to a paid model 
>> they became so bureaucratic and awkward with updates I switched to Centos. 
>> This is the first genuine redhat I've had to deal with in a few years and it 
>> wakens unpleasant memori

Re: [imp] All my PGP signed messages marked as BAD

2013-06-07 Thread simon
Quoting Michael M Slusarz > Quoting Simon Wilson  
:


2013-06-07T10:00:19+10:00 WARN: HORDE [imp] PHP ERROR:  
stream_get_contents(): Failed to seek to position 0 in the stream  
[pid 11218 on line 448 of  
"/var/www/horde/imp/lib/Mime/Viewer/Pgp.php"]


You wouldn't happen to be using an old version of PHP, are you?   
Like PHP 5.3.3?


stream_get_contents() is buggy in older versions of PHP, IIRC.

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On 08/06/2013, at 4:36 AM, Michael M Slusarz  wrote:


Quoting Simon Wilson :

2013-06-07T10:00:19+10:00 WARN: HORDE [imp] PHP ERROR:   
stream_get_contents(): Failed to seek to position 0 in the stream   
[pid 11218 on line 448 of   
"/var/www/horde/imp/lib/Mime/Viewer/Pgp.php"]


You wouldn't happen to be using an old version of PHP, are you?   
Like  PHP 5.3.3?


stream_get_contents() is buggy in older versions of PHP, IIRC.

michael



Centos 6.4, PHP 5.3.3.

I'd imagine there would be quite a few still running 5.3.3?  
Particularly as it is the packaged version on RH and derivatives...


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Re: [imp] Interest in Sponsoring "fetchmail capability" for Horde 5/Imp 6

2013-08-05 Thread simon


Simon Wilson
M: 0400 12 11 16

On 05/08/2013, at 5:18 PM, azurIt  wrote:

>>>>> Is there anyone else on this list that would be willing to help fund
>>>>> development of a "fetchmail capability" ? (ie, same end result as the
>>>>> old fetchmail, only done differently)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> First we need to know how much money is needed. Michael?
>>> 
>>> As mentioned previously, this is a multi-week project, at least from a 
>>> project planning perspective.  And that doesn't include the bug-fixing 
>>> that is likely to be significant, given the fact that this is 1) an 
>>> invasive UI change and 2) is involving connections to remote servers.
>>> 
>>> That being said - this is something I personally would *really* like 
>>> to see in IMP also, so I am willing to provide a discount and 
>>> prioritize this over some other activities I am currently involved in.
>>> 
>>> I would implement for $3,000 USD.  Conditions:
>>> 
>>> * It will be implemented as described in: 
>>> http://bugs.horde.org/ticket/8077 (i.e. this is *not* a fetchmail 
>>> capability - no messages will be transferred to the "master" account.  
>>> Instead, this is a way to access multiple mailboxes at the same time 
>>> while leaving the messages in those accounts).
>>> 
>>> * This won't be available for IMP 6.1.  This will go into 6.2, at the 
>>> earliest.
>>> 
>>> This might be an interesting use-case for using a service like 
>>> Bountysource (https://www.bountysource.com/).
>> 
>> 
>> I'm willing to help funding this. I can contribute with $300 USD. I 
>> think the bountysource idea is good.
> 
> 
> I can contribute about $100 USD. Michael, go and create a bounty at 
> bountysource, i'm sure more people will join and help.
> 
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Commit $100 from me, and agree re bountysource or similar, or can contribute 
direct to Horde.

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[imp] Redirect, reinjection in DIMP

2010-11-16 Thread Simon Brereton
Hi

One of the reasons I run Horde, is because I've had such a fantastic user 
experience with it as a user from another installation.  That installation 
doesn't seem to have been updated in a while, but nevertheless, has a feature 
that I miss from my installation.  And I wonder if it was a custom written 
feature or if I've just missed it in my options...

The ability to redirect a mail to another smtp address.  (The link actually 
says "Redirect" and allows you to reinject the mail into the mail queue with a 
new recipient address.

Actually, I have found this in IMP, but I am missing it from the DIMP 
interface.  Is there any reason this is not an option under other actions?

Thanks.

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Re: [imp] Unknown folders in INBOX list

2010-12-29 Thread Simon Brereton
> -Original Message-
> From: imp-boun...@lists.horde.org [mailto:imp-

> Hi,
> There are some folder's appearing in all my users INBOX list that
> aren't supposed to be there.
> When I list the user's folder in the mail server the "unwanted"
> folder does nor appear but in imp's Inbox list it appears.
> 
> Does any one know what's going on?

Probably they are put there by some mail client that thinks it knows better.  
The Android email application is especially bad about this.  So now I have a 
sent folder and a Sent folder.

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[imp] Error Moving message

2011-01-03 Thread Simon Brereton
Hi

I had a server crash this morning, and I'm not sure if this is related to that, 
or something else.  The server drive was eventually okay, so I haven't had to 
rebuild anything.

Reporting a mail as spam in IMP (and DIMP), I got this:

# The message has been reported as spam.
# Message The message has been reported as spam to your system administrator.
# Error There was an error moving messages from "Inbox" to "". This is what the 
server said: [TRYCREATE] Mailbox does not exist.

Now, the message was actually sent to the spam-trap, but apparently it can't be 
moved.  Previously it was always deleted.

Can you tell me what I should check? I googled, but all I found was:
http://kb.parallels.com/1155

But when I check the options, the Trash folder created and selected (and 
frankly, I knew that because normal delete works fine, but what would be the 
point of troubleshooting if you didn't actually double check?).

Thanks.

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Re: [imp] Installing H4 / stability "beta" [Was: IMP H4 (5.0-RC1)]

2011-03-24 Thread Simon Brereton
> From: imp-boun...@lists.horde.org [mailto:imp-
> boun...@lists.horde.org] On Behalf Of Adam Tauno Williams
> 
> > We encourage widespread testing and feedback via the mailing lists
> or
> > our bug tracking system. Updated translations are very welcome.
> > To install IMP, you need to install Horde first. See
> > https://github.com/horde/horde/blob/master/horde/docs/INSTALL for
> > details. Once
> 
> Attempting to follow those instructions, but this fails with many
> messages like -
> 
> Failed to download horde/Horde_Vfs within preferred state "stable",
> latest release is version 1.0.0RC1, stability "beta", use
> "channel://pear.horde.org/Horde_Vfs-1.0.0RC1" to install

Pear install -alldeps wordked for me - but as you can see from my other post it 
didn't get me as far as I thought.  It did take away those errors though.


> Do I have to install all those manually (specifying the full channel)
> or is there a pear setting to get around this?  I understand it is
> beta, I just want to tell pear that is OK.

Given my issue, I'm wondering if y/our installation of pear needs to be told 
that beta sw is okay to install...  But it's a wild guess - I'm no expert.

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[imp] imp 5.0-RC2 configuration issue

2011-04-01 Thread Simon Brereton
Hi

I find myself unable to configure imp.  From the configuration panel, I click 
on missing configuration, make my changes and then I get the Could not save the 
configuration file /usr/share/horde4/imp/config/conf.php error, so I copy the 
configuration to conf.php in the imp/config directory.  However, when I try to 
return to the configuration panel all I get is the grey bar at the top.

Below is the configuration that I created - although the experience above is 
repeated if I change nothing or very little.

I've tried running  /usr/bin/horde-db-migrate imp and redoing it - also without 
success.

One thing I haven't done (or been able to do) is configure a connection to the 
IMAP server.  Is that the issue perhaps?

The only - and I mean only - thing in the logs is:

2011-04-01T15:29:37+01:00 ERR: HORDE [horde] SQL QUERY FAILED: SQLSTATE[42S02]: 
Base table or view not found: 1051 Unknown table 'imp_sentmail_seq'
DROP TABLE `imp_sentmail_seq` [pid 3 on line 782 of 
"/usr/share/php/Horde/Db/Adapter/Base.php"]


Also, I'm confused as where to set up the IMAP server because embarrassingly I 
can't find it in the old H3/IMP4 set up.

Thanks.

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Re: [imp] imp 5.0-RC2 configuration issue

2011-04-01 Thread Simon Brereton
> From: imp-boun...@lists.horde.org [mailto:imp-
> boun...@lists.horde.org] On Behalf Of Simon Brereton
> Hi
> 
> I find myself unable to configure imp.  From the configuration panel,
> I click on missing configuration, make my changes and then I get the
> Could not save the configuration file
> /usr/share/horde4/imp/config/conf.php error, so I copy the
> configuration to conf.php in the imp/config directory.  However, when
> I try to return to the configuration panel all I get is the grey bar
> at the top.

Sorry, that was quite badly written.  I should add that the icons are all in 
the top, just there is not side bar and nothing in the main panel.

> Below is the configuration that I created - although the experience
> above is repeated if I change nothing or very little.
> 
> I've tried running  /usr/bin/horde-db-migrate imp and redoing it -
> also without success.

Although the *actual* migrate script works.  Just it doesn't fix the issue.
 
> One thing I haven't done (or been able to do) is configure a
> connection to the IMAP server.  Is that the issue perhaps?

I think after looking at my configuration for a little longer the reason I 
can't find any specific configuration for the imap server, is because the old 
one just used the default.  I've mimicked that (but turned off tls until I get 
it working).  I put it in backends.local.php (that's where it should go, yes)?


> The only - and I mean only - thing in the logs is:
> 
> 2011-04-01T15:29:37+01:00 ERR: HORDE [horde] SQL QUERY FAILED:
> SQLSTATE[42S02]: Base table or view not found: 1051 Unknown table
> 'imp_sentmail_seq'
> DROP TABLE `imp_sentmail_seq` [pid 3 on line 782 of
> "/usr/share/php/Horde/Db/Adapter/Base.php"]
> 
> 
> Also, I'm confused as where to set up the IMAP server because
> embarrassingly I can't find it in the old H3/IMP4 set up.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Simon

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Re: [imp] imp 5.0-RC2 configuration issue

2011-04-04 Thread Simon Brereton
> From: imp-boun...@lists.horde.org [mailto:imp-
> boun...@lists.horde.org] On Behalf Of Simon Brereton
> > From: imp-boun...@lists.horde.org [mailto:imp-
> > boun...@lists.horde.org] On Behalf Of Simon Brereton Hi
> >
> > I find myself unable to configure imp.  From the configuration
> panel,
> > I click on missing configuration, make my changes and then I get
> the
> > Could not save the configuration file
> > /usr/share/horde4/imp/config/conf.php error, so I copy the
> > configuration to conf.php in the imp/config directory.  However,
> when
> > I try to return to the configuration panel all I get is the grey
> bar
> > at the top.
> 
> Sorry, that was quite badly written.  I should add that the icons are
> all in the top, just there is not side bar and nothing in the main
> panel.
> 
> > Below is the configuration that I created - although the experience
> > above is repeated if I change nothing or very little.
> >
> > I've tried running  /usr/bin/horde-db-migrate imp and redoing it -
> > also without success.
> 
> Although the *actual* migrate script works.  Just it doesn't fix the
> issue.
> 
> > One thing I haven't done (or been able to do) is configure a
> > connection to the IMAP server.  Is that the issue perhaps?
> 
> I think after looking at my configuration for a little longer the
> reason I can't find any specific configuration for the imap server,
> is because the old one just used the default.  I've mimicked that
> (but turned off tls until I get it working).  I put it in
> backends.local.php (that's where it should go, yes)?
> 
> 
> > The only - and I mean only - thing in the logs is:
> >
> > 2011-04-01T15:29:37+01:00 ERR: HORDE [horde] SQL QUERY FAILED:
> > SQLSTATE[42S02]: Base table or view not found: 1051 Unknown table
> > 'imp_sentmail_seq'
> > DROP TABLE `imp_sentmail_seq` [pid 3 on line 782 of
> > "/usr/share/php/Horde/Db/Adapter/Base.php"]
> >
> >
> > Also, I'm confused as where to set up the IMAP server because
> > embarrassingly I can't find it in the old H3/IMP4 set up.

I've found this.  I'd left it as the default, because the local imap server was 
on localhost and not using SSL, so the defaults were quite fine (as they should 
be now).

I'm still no closer to fixing this, so anyone have any pointers?

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Re: [imp] imp 5.0-RC2 configuration issue

2011-04-05 Thread Simon Brereton
From: imp-boun...@lists.horde.org [mailto:imp-boun...@lists.horde.org] On 
Behalf Of Ralf Lang
Am Montag, 4. April 2011, 21:00:05 schrieb Simon Brereton:
> > From: imp-boun...@lists.horde.org [mailto:imp- 
> > boun...@lists.horde.org] On Behalf Of Simon Brereton
> > > One thing I haven't done (or been able to do) is configure a 
> > > connection to the IMAP server.  Is that the issue perhaps?
> > 
> > I think after looking at my configuration for a little longer the 
> > reason I can't find any specific configuration for the imap server, 
> > is because the old one just used the default.  I've mimicked that 
> > (but turned off tls until I get it working).  I put it in 
> > backends.local.php (that's where it should go, yes)?
> > 
> > > The only - and I mean only - thing in the logs is:
> > > 
> > > 2011-04-01T15:29:37+01:00 ERR: HORDE [horde] SQL QUERY FAILED:
> > > SQLSTATE[42S02]: Base table or view not found: 1051 Unknown table 
> > > 'imp_sentmail_seq'
> > > 
> > > DROP TABLE `imp_sentmail_seq` [pid 3 on line 782 of
> > > 
> > > "/usr/share/php/Horde/Db/Adapter/Base.php"]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Also, I'm confused as where to set up the IMAP server because 
> > > embarrassingly I can't find it in the old H3/IMP4 set up.
> 
> I've found this.  I'd left it as the default, because the local imap 
> server was on localhost and not using SSL, so the defaults were quite 
> fine (as they should be now).
> 
> I'm still no closer to fixing this, so anyone have any pointers?


imp/config/backends.php may be what you are looking for: Define which imap 
servers are there and how to connect to them.

This is what I have in backends.local.php

312 $servers['imap'] = array(
313 // ENABLED by default
314 'disabled' => false,
315 'name' => 'IMAP Server',
316 'hostspec' => 'localhost',
317 'hordeauth' => false,
318 'protocol' => 'imap',
319 'port' => 143,
320 // Plaintext logins are disabled by default on IMAP servers (see RFC 
3501
321 // [6.2.3])
322 //'secure' => 'tls',
323     'secure' => 'false',
324 'maildomain' => '',
325 // 'smtphost' => 'smtp.example.com',
326 // 'smtpport' => 25,
327 'cache' => false,
328 );

It doesn't matter if I have it in backends.local.php or backends.php I have the 
same problem.  Just the grey bar with icons and a white screen.  And nothing in 
the logs.  I turned tls off in case it was the issue.  It doesn't make a 
difference.

Simon



And this is what I have in my current running H3 config:

223 $servers['_prompt'] = array(
224 'name' => _("Choose a mail server:")
225 );
226
227 /* Example configurations: */
228
229 $servers['imap'] = array(
230 'name' => 'IMAP Server',
231 'server' => 'localhost',
232 'hordeauth' => false,
233 'protocol' => 'imap/notls',
234 'port' => 143,
235 'maildomain' => '',
236 'smtphost' => '',
237 'smtpport' => '',
238 'realm' => '',
239 'preferred' => '',
240 );

It's not that different.  
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Re: [imp] Deleting or moving messages with Fatal error in Socket.php

2011-04-15 Thread Simon Brereton
> From: imp-boun...@lists.horde.org [mailto:imp-
> boun...@lists.horde.org] On Behalf Of Michael M Slusarz
> Quoting Simon Brereton :
> 
> > Sort for the top post - I only have my mobile.
> >
> > When is the new release because I'm considering a switch to Dovecot
> too..
> >
> > Simon
> >
> >
> > Michael M Slusarz  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Quoting Yves Bilgeri :
> >
> >> I'm testing to switch from Courier-IMAP over to Dovecot (1.2.15),
> but
> >> have a problem with Horde4/Imp5 when deleting or moving messages I
> >> get every time following error:
> >>
> >> Fatal error: Call to a member function get() on a non-object in
> >> /var/www/horde4/pear/php/Horde/Imap/Client/Socket.php on line 2931
> >
> > Already fixed for the next release.
> 
> This is only an issue if using an IMAP server with CONDSTORE
> capability and you are not using caching in Horde.  As the documents
> clearly say, it is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED you use caching when using IMP
> so most people will not see this issue.

Highly recommended - and indeed for this reason I turned it on.  And got a 
white screen.  I tried turning on caching one block at a time with no 
significant result.  As soon as I touch the caching tab, I get a whitescreen 
after saving the config. 

And nothing in the logs.

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Re: [imp] IMP H4 (5.0.2) (final)

2011-05-03 Thread Simon Brereton
> -Original Message-
> From: imp-boun...@lists.horde.org [mailto:imp-
> boun...@lists.horde.org] On Behalf Of Jan Schneider
> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 9:01 AM
> To: annou...@lists.horde.org; ven...@lists.horde.org;
> imp@lists.horde.org
> Subject: [imp] IMP H4 (5.0.2) (final)
> 
> The Horde Team is pleased to announce the final release of the
> Internet Mail Program (IMP) version H4 (5.0.2).
> 
> IMP, the Internet Mail Program, is one of the most popular and widely
> deployed open source webmail applications in the world. It allows
> universal, web-based access to IMAP and POP3 mail servers and
> provides Ajax, mobile and traditional interfaces with a rich range of
> features normally found only in desktop email clients. For more
> information on IMP, visit http://www.horde.org/apps/imp.
> 
> The major changes compared to the IMP version H4 (5.0.1) are:
> 
>  * Added quick flag filtering to traditional view.
>  * Small bugfixes and improvements.
> 
> The full list of changes can be viewed here:
> 
> https://github.com/horde/horde/blob/1f607d7253b1b6bcc2eda17ac8f54c780
> 872f972/imp/docs/CHANGES

This link was 404 for me.

Also, how to upgrade?  pear upgrade -c horde will upgrade all components - yes? 
 But what if you only want to upgrade specific ones?

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[imp] Upgrade to 5.02 unable to generate message list.

2011-05-04 Thread Simon Brereton
Since upgrading to Horde 4.0.2 and Imp 5.0.2 with pear upgrade -c horde 
yesterday, I get the following notifications on screen and in the alerts log 
when trying to view mail..

The server was unable to generate the message list.[Wed 04 May 2011 11:40:56 AM 
EST]
Error when communicating with the server.[Wed 04 May 2011 11:40:57 AM EST]
In the horde.log, I see:

2011-05-04T11:40:45-04:00 EMERG: HORDE [imp] Class IMP_Ajax_Queue does not 
exist [pid 21965 on line 60 of 
"/usr/share/php/Horde/Injector/Binder/Implementation.php"]
2011-05-04T11:40:46-04:00 EMERG: HORDE [imp] Class IMP_Ajax_Queue does not 
exist [pid 21949 on line 60 of 
"/usr/share/php/Horde/Injector/Binder/Implementation.php"]

I think I saw someone with the same issue who fixed it by upgrading with 
--all-deps, but I don't want to do that because it will install the ldap and 
other stuff I don't want.  How can I resolve this?

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Re: [imp] Upgrade to 5.02 unable to generate message list.

2011-05-04 Thread Simon Brereton
> -Original Message-
> From: Torben Dannhauer
> Hi,
> 
>  In 5.0.2 IMP_Ajax_Queue was missed, so upgrade to 5.0.3 and
> everything will work.

Thanks.  I didn't know there was one.

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[imp] Memcache Issue

2011-05-05 Thread Simon Brereton
Hi

Yesterday I ran pear upgrade -c horde to upgrade imp to solve the missing 
IMP_Ajax issue from 5.0.2

During the installation, I was asked a question about memcache.  I'd previously 
not touched memcache, but since the default answer was yes, that's what I went 
with.  (Unfortunately, I don't remember what the question was).

Since then I'm getting half-hourly emails from the cron daemon with the subject:

[ -x /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime ] && [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] && find /var/lib/php5/ 
-type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) -delete

And in the body:

PHP Warning:  Module 'memcache' already loaded in Unknown on line 0

I have no wish really to set up a memcache server (it's disabled in the horde 
tab).

Does anyone know what I might actually have said yes to?
How I can revert it?
Or otherwise fix the complaint from the cron daemon?  "Unknown" is not exactly 
helpful in pointing me in the right direction...

Thanks.

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Re: [imp] Memcache Issue

2011-05-05 Thread Simon Brereton
> -Original Message-
> From: imp-boun...@lists.horde.org [mailto:imp-
> boun...@lists.horde.org] On Behalf Of Rick Romero

> PHP is trying to load memcache twice.  Check your list of modules for
> duplicate memcache lines in your php.ini or extensions.ini.

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Re: [imp] May be our horde installation was used for spam

2011-05-23 Thread Simon Brereton
Apologies for top posting..

No wonder you have an issue. Install postfix asap and replace sendmail.  This 
is more secure and less complex (and it sounds like you don't need complex).

In the meantime take that box offline until you establish of it's the server or 
a compromised user account. Does your setup even use smtp auth? 

Simon


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>> 
>> 
>> for example google 'policyd'
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Re: [imp] Blank Saved Seaches screen in Prefs

2011-06-03 Thread Simon Wilson


Quoting Jānis :

Hi!

  >
  > Something is wrong with Saved searches page in preferences - when i
  > press respective link
  > (http://server/services/prefs.php?app=imp&group=searches) I get a
  > blank page.
  >
  > What could be wrong?
  >
  > IMP 5.04
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http://bugs.horde.org/ticket/10184

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[imp] Dynamic View Questions

2011-06-06 Thread Simon Wilson
I have been using the Dynamic interface for a while, it has some great  
features - but I have a couple of questions.


1. I can't find a way to View Thread like in the Traditional interface  
- am I missing something obvious?
2. In Traditional you can "Clear Sort" to return to Pref-specified  
default sorting, is that available in Dynamic?

3. You can't mark a message as "Answered"?

The View Thread capability is particularly missed - especially for  
Mailing Lists. Seems a shame to have to go into Preferences, tell  
Dynamic not to launch, then back into Imp to view the Threads, then  
reverse the process.


Should I log an Enhancement request? Or is it there and I'm just blind... :)

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Re: [imp] Dynamic View Questions

2011-06-06 Thread Simon Wilson

Quoting Michael M Slusarz :


Quoting Simon Wilson :

I have been using the Dynamic interface for a while, it has some  
great features - but I have a couple of questions.


1. I can't find a way to View Thread like in the Traditional  
interface - am I missing something obvious?


It's right there next to Subject (if you mean sorting by thread).   
If you mean viewing an entire thread on the same page, then no.   
I've always found that feature very cumbersome and not that useful,  
and have toyed in the past with removing it completely.  At a  
minimum, I would like to redo it for the dynamic view.




I find it very useful for Mailing List discussions - it's great to be  
able to view in one piece, and then hit the "Delete Thread" icon once  
finished with it. Particularly when you get 20 or 30 emails in some  
discussions, to read / delete manually takes ages. Personally I'd be  
disappointed to see it go, and would like to see it in Dynamic.


2. In Traditional you can "Clear Sort" to return to Pref-specified  
default sorting, is that available in Dynamic?


Right-click on the sort bar.  Suggestions for where else to put it  
are welcome (but NOT in Other Actions.  It doesn't fit in there).




OK, found it - it's not very intuitive to find. Hmmm... Consistency  
with Traditional would see it in that header bar, but that would  
necessitate sacrificing a whole row of real estate for one small item.  
What about on the Command Buttons row next to Other Actions but  
dynamically - only show if a sort is applied, like Traditional?



3. You can't mark a message as "Answered"?


You are not supposed to be allowed to mark a message as Answered  
manually.  This flag is defined by the IMAP spec for a very specific  
purpose - it must only be sent when a message has been successfully  
replied to.  You can always define a tag if you want something that  
you can manually control.


michael



Only reason I mention this one is because you can do it in Traditional.

Thanks for the responses Michael.

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[imp] Empty Trash causes timeout - Bug?

2011-06-13 Thread Simon Wilson
Hmmm... I still have H3/Imp4 setup on my old server, pointing to the  
same IMAP server, and I can "Empty Trash" successfully, comes back  
almost instantly.


On the new H4/Imp5 server, hitting "Empty Trash" in either Dynamic or  
Traditional times out:


[Mon Jun 13 18:54:27 2011] [error] [client 59.167.157.243] (70007)The  
timeout specified has expired: proxy: error reading status line from  
remote server 192.168.1.170, referer:  
https://mail.simonandkate.net/imp/mailbox.php?mailbox=SU5CT1g
[Mon Jun 13 18:54:27 2011] [error] [client 59.167.157.243] proxy:  
Error reading from remote server returned by /imp/mailbox.php,  
referer: https://mail.simonandkate.net/imp/mailbox.php?mailbox=SU5CT1g


Once that has happened, nothing works in H4/Imp5 without returning the  
same errors, until I restart Apache on the Horde Server.


Empty Spam works fine.

Deleting items manually from Trash seems to work fine.

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Re: [imp] Empty Trash causes timeout - Bug?

2011-06-15 Thread Simon Wilson

Quoting Michael M Slusarz :


Quoting Simon Wilson :




On the new H4/Imp5 server, hitting "Empty Trash" in either Dynamic  
or Traditional times out:




Once that has happened, nothing works in H4/Imp5 without returning  
the same errors, until I restart Apache on the Horde Server.


Bug #10224.  Also, please don't post error messages from your proxy,  
since they are worthless.


michael



Thanks Michael. My apologies - the proxy was the only log that had  
anything that seemed at all relevant.


However, this is not fixed yet.

Just updated to the new releases this morning (H4.0.6, I5.0.7), and  
tried to Empty the Trash folder in Dynamic view this evening.


Instant Segfault in Apache on the Horde box.

[Wed Jun 15 22:09:15 2011] [notice] child pid 14367 exit signal  
Segmentation fault (11)


I have a "trap" that runs and picks these up and restarts Apache when  
it detects a SegFault (APC causes them occasionally) so the impact is  
just a couple of "Error when communicating with the server" messages  
(and trash not emptied). Thought that may have been coincidence, so  
retried, and again instant segfault. Same error in Apache logs. Even  
at Debug level I am not seeing anything that I can pick as relevant in  
the Horde log.


Does exactly the same in Traditional View when I hit Empty Trash, and  
this is reproducible at will...


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[imp] Fwd: login problem with imp

2011-06-23 Thread Simon Wilson
Forgot to reply to list.

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Simon Wilson 
> Date: 24 June 2011 12:46:21 PM AEST
> To: Darryl Cook 
> Subject: Re: [imp] login problem with imp
> 

> On 24/06/2011, at 3:59 AM, Darryl Cook  wrote:
> 
>> Ive been using Imp for some time now.  Recently I installed a new server and 
>> ported everything over to it.  Horde and Imp ran great.  Yesterday I ran 
>> updates on the machine and something (probably SSL) changed on the machine.
>> 
>> When I login to Imp on port 993 I get in fine.  But after about 5 mins 
>> something apparently times out and kicks me back to the login page with an 
>> error that says "Login Failure...bad username or password".  Even though I 
>> was logged in and reading mail at the time I get kicked out.  If I try to 
>> log back in it sometimes takes me a few tries to get back in.
>> 
>> Imp on port 143 doesnt do that to me, so there seems to be something with 
>> ssl that is causing the problems.anyone have any clues to what could 
>> cause this?
>> 
>> -- 
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>> Appalachian State University
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>> 828-262-2296
>> 
>> 
>> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
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> You don't log in to imp on 993 or 143, those are IMAP ports. Imp is typically 
> on 80 or 443. If Imp is configured to connect to IMAP using 143 or 993 then 
> that would make more sense.
> 
> If you are getting kicked out and then unable to log on then both Horde logs 
> and IMAP logs should show information as to why. Posting relevant extracts 
> from the logs will probably help. 
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[imp] View Thread

2011-09-06 Thread Simon Wilson
The great long thread about Reply has reminded me how much I miss  
"View Thread" in the dynamic interface...


SOOO much quicker to read through a long thread in Imp Traditional in  
View Thread mode.


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Re: [imp] View Thread

2011-09-07 Thread Simon Wilson

- Message from Jan Schneider  -
   Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 10:21:22 +0200
   From: Jan Schneider 
Subject: Re: [imp] View Thread
 To: imp@lists.horde.org



Zitat von Michael M Slusarz :


Quoting Jan Schneider :


Zitat von Simon Wilson :

The great long thread about Reply has reminded me how much I miss  
"View Thread" in the dynamic interface...


SOOO much quicker to read through a long thread in Imp  
Traditional in View Thread mode.


Why do you miss it? It's still there.


I think he means in the dynamic view.

This definitely isn't getting done until, at a minimum, this is completed:

http://bugs.horde.org/ticket/3278


Ah, I mixed up "thread view" and "view thread".

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- End message from Jan Schneider  -

Yes indeed, I was describing the option to view an entire thread on  
one page that is in Traditional but not in Dynamic. With 50 emails to  
read in the same thread doing that in Dynamic is a one at a time  
'task' as opposed to basically just reading down the page in  
Traditional. Unless I am missing something...


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[imp] No Floating Menu for Administration options.

2011-09-07 Thread Simon Brereton
Hi

I think I've configured something wrong, broken something or have a flag left 
over from H3 that is causing an issue.

When I log in I get a blue bar across the top with:

HomePreferences Problem HelpLogout

I get a lighter blue bar on the left with a rounded corner containing 
(collapsed menu items):

Horde
Mail
Organizing (despite UK English selected at login)
Administration
Preferences
Logout

Obviously, some of these are redundant, but that's not my issue.

The main portion of the screen is then the Horde Portal and blocks (I only have 
2).

If I click on Mail (or Inbox if the menu isn't collapsed), I end up with no 
blue bar across the top (I think this is the new default, it's not there in 
Kronolith, it is there in Turba, Mnemo and Nag).  I now have a light grey bar 
on the left that goes all the way down the screen, but does not contain 
Organisation or Administration menu items.  It does contain Horde, Mail, 
Filters, Calendar, Notes and Tasks, because I added them to the menu 
configuration tab in IMP.  

However, even if I now click on Horde, I'm returned to the Portal page, blue 
bar still at the top (although now not all the way across the top) and the 
IMP/grey menu bar on the left side of the screen all the way down.  Therefore 
to get to Administration items, I have to either go back with the browser until 
I reach the page just after login, or log out and log back in.  Surely that 
light blue bar with the rounded corner should always be there?

Note, if I go to Kronolith from login and use the drop down menu to get back to 
the Portal page then the bar is still there.

How can I fix this and what are the plans to standardise the look and feel, 
because at the moment it looks like only some apps are upgraded.

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Re: [imp] No Floating Menu for Administration options.

2011-09-08 Thread Simon Brereton
> -Original Message-
> From: imp-boun...@lists.horde.org [mailto:imp-
> boun...@lists.horde.org] On Behalf Of Jan Schneider
> Zitat von Simon Brereton :
> 
> > Hi
> >
> > I think I've configured something wrong, broken something or have a
> > flag left over from H3 that is causing an issue.
> >
> > When I log in I get a blue bar across the top with:
> >
> > HomePreferences Problem Help
>   Logout
> >
> > I get a lighter blue bar on the left with a rounded corner
> containing
> > (collapsed menu items):
> >
> > Horde
> > Mail
> > Organizing (despite UK English selected at login)
> 
> There is no UK English translation. The language setting is only used
> for locale-specific formatting. You can contribute one if you want
> to.

Really?  I'm surprised.  As soon as I get this set up finished and working I'll 
make one.

> > Administration
> > Preferences
> > Logout
> >
> > Obviously, some of these are redundant, but that's not my issue.
> >
> > The main portion of the screen is then the Horde Portal and blocks
> (I
> > only have 2).
> >
> > If I click on Mail (or Inbox if the menu isn't collapsed), I end up
> > with no blue bar across the top (I think this is the new default,
> > it's not there in Kronolith, it is there in Turba, Mnemo and Nag).
> > I now have a light grey bar on the left that goes all the way down
> the
> > screen, but does not contain Organisation or Administration menu
> > items.  It does contain Horde, Mail, Filters, Calendar, Notes and
> > Tasks, because I added them to the menu configuration tab in IMP.
> 
> Don't add Horde.

How else to get to the portal though?  And in fact, this was added by default.  
 I had to manually add the others.

> > However, even if I now click on Horde, I'm returned to the Portal
> > page, blue bar still at the top (although now not all the way
> across
> > the top) and the IMP/grey menu bar on the left side of the screen
> all
> > the way down.  Therefore to get to Administration items, I have to
> > either go back with the browser until I reach the page just after
> > login, or log out and log back in.  Surely that light blue bar with
> > the rounded corner should always be there?
> 
> No.

How to get to the administration menu then?

> > Note, if I go to Kronolith from login and use the drop down menu to
> > get back to the Portal page then the bar is still there.
> 
> The same happens if you use the Portal link in IMP.

The issue I'm trying to report is that is what I would expect - but not what 
I'm seeing.  I can send you screenshots if you like (though to you only, since 
the list won't take them over 25kb).

> > How can I fix this and what are the plans to standardise the look
> and
> > feel, because at the moment it looks like only some apps are
> upgraded.
> 
> I does not only look like it, it is the matter of fact.

Well, I think it the new look and feel looks great.  Is there a time-line on 
Turba joining Kronolith and IMP as the new look?

Thanks again.

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[imp] Cannot view mails in IMP5 Traditional view

2011-09-08 Thread Simon Brereton
Hi

If I log in on Automatic, Dynamic, or even Smartphone mode, I can see the mails 
and interact with them with no problem.

If I log into Traditional mode though, I see nothing below the drop down boxes 
for marking and filtering messages.


I see the headers such as:
1 - 30 of 255 Messages

Using the arrows I can cycle through them fine, but nothing appears in the main 
part of the screen.

What did I do wrong? :)


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[imp] Hide messages marked for deletion

2011-09-12 Thread Simon Brereton
Hi

I can't believe this hasn't been raised, but the only mention on the mailing 
list archive I can find on Google is from 2008 - a while before IMP5.

Basically when you delete from Outlook, and then log into IMP, the messages are 
still shown (albeit with a line through them and marked for deletion).  I would 
like these to be hidden (and/or moved to trash).

I can't find a setting in either the administration panel or the preferences.  
Apart from:

When deleting messages, move them to your Trash folder instead of marking them 
as deleted?

But what about messages that have been marked by another client?

Thanks.

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Re: [imp] Hide messages marked for deletion

2011-09-12 Thread Simon Brereton
> -Original Message-
> From: imp-boun...@lists.horde.org [mailto:imp-
> boun...@lists.horde.org] On Behalf Of Michael M Slusarz
> Quoting Simon Brereton :
> 
> > Hi
> >
> > I can't believe this hasn't been raised, but the only mention on
> the
> > mailing list archive I can find on Google is from 2008 - a while
> > before IMP5.
> >
> > Basically when you delete from Outlook, and then log into IMP, the
> > messages are still shown (albeit with a line through them and
> marked
> > for deletion).  I would like these to be hidden (and/or moved to
> > trash).
> >
> > I can't find a setting in either the administration panel or the
> > preferences.  Apart from:
> >
> > When deleting messages, move them to your Trash folder instead of
> > marking them as deleted?
> >
> > But what about messages that have been marked by another client?
> 
> This has been discussed before, and the current behavior is proper.
> If you are not hiding deleted messages in IMP, then you *have* to
> show all messages as-is, regardless of their current flag.  The user
> has explicitly stated that they want to see all messages that live in
> the mailbox.  Why should a message that is flagged as deleted not be
> shown?  There's nothing special about that message... it still exists
> in the mailbox.

That's sort of my point - where do I find the option to hide deleted messages?  
That's what I'm looking for.

> The last thing you can do is make assumptions about how other MUA's
> are dealing with flags in mailboxes.

I completely agree with you and unless I completely failed to explain my issue 
not what I was encouraging at all.

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Re: [imp] IMAP errors on Android Browser

2011-09-27 Thread Simon Brereton
> -Original Message-
> From: imp-boun...@lists.horde.org [mailto:imp-
> boun...@lists.horde.org] On Behalf Of Henry Tang
> -Original Message-
> From: imp-boun...@lists.horde.org [mailto:imp-
> boun...@lists.horde.org] On Behalf Of Jan Schneider
> 
> Zitat von Henry Tang :
> 
> > I have the latest horde 4.0.9 and imp 5.0.13 installed and can't
> > access my webmail via iphone or blackberry. I am getting this
> message
> > below from my server and on my iphone or blackberry it throws the
> > error Can't open
> mailbox
> > N: no such mailbox.  I came across similar problem posted on
> android
> > but
> his
> > error message was Mailbox does not exists. I already tried setting
> to
> utf-8
> > from western (default) and that doesn't do anything.
> >
> > Sep 27 09:22:24 mystique HORDE: [imp] PHP ERROR: Trying to get
> > property of non-object [pid 11521 on line 353 of
> > "/home/webmail/public_html/imp/lib/Imap.php"]
> > Sep 27 09:22:24 mystique HORDE: [imp] IMAP error: Can't open
> mailbox  N:
> no
> > such mailbox [pid 11521 on line 340 of
> > "/home/webmail/public_html/imp/lib/Imap.php"]
> > Sep 27 09:22:25 mystique HORDE: [imp] PHP ERROR: json_encode():
> > Invalid
> > UTF-8 sequence in argument [pid 11521 on line 242 of
> > "/usr/local/lib/php/Horde/Serialize.php"]
> > Sep 27 09:22:25 mystique HORDE: [imp] PHP ERROR: json_encode():
> > Invalid
> > UTF-8 sequence in argument [pid 11521 on line 289 of
> > "/usr/local/lib/php/Horde/Prefs/Scope.php"]
> > Sep 27 09:
> 
> The solution was already posted in this very thread.
> 
> Jan.
> 
> --
> 
> I checked out the archive and wasn't able to find anything other than
> clearing out cache.  I tried that on my iphone and still doesn't
> work.  I do not have a problem through a desktop browser.  I also
> tried the non-mobile view from my iphone and do not have a problem.
> So I think it is a configuration problem with the mobile view.  I
> also tested on iphone 4 and that failed as well.

You may get this twice - apologies.

I tested with my Droid native browser.  Logging in with Automatic I get an 
error when trying to access Inbox or Sent or any folder with mail in it.  The 
error is mailbox does not exist.

I tried logging in with each mode and the only mode that would show me the 
messages list in the Inbox was mobile (non-smartphone), but even that just 
showed a white page when I clicked on a message).

On a separate note, the mobile UI is very clean and great for all the other 
applications - except Turba, which came up as the traditional mode.  I don't 
know if that's because the UI hasn't been totally brought up to Horde4.

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Re: [imp] IMAP errors on Android Browser

2011-09-27 Thread Simon Brereton
Sorry for the to post..

I can confirm an issue.  When logging in on Android and letting it choose
the automatic view, I'm able to access everything - except mail.  I'm told
that the mailbox does not exist. The error message is truncated but appears
to be different depending on the folder I'm trying to access.

On a separate note, everything looks great in the mobile view - except Turba
- which appears as the normal Web browser view..

Simon
On Sep 27, 2011 11:08 AM, "Henry Tang"  wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: imp-boun...@lists.horde.org [mailto:imp-boun...@lists.horde.org] On
> Behalf Of Jan Schneider
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 9:38 AM
> To: imp@lists.horde.org
> Subject: Re: [imp] IMAP errors on Android Browser
>
>
> Zitat von Henry Tang :
>
>> I have the latest horde 4.0.9 and imp 5.0.13 installed and can't access
my
>> webmail via iphone or blackberry. I am getting this message below from my
>> server and on my iphone or blackberry it throws the error Can't open
> mailbox
>> N: no such mailbox. I came across similar problem posted on android but
> his
>> error message was Mailbox does not exists. I already tried setting to
> utf-8
>> from western (default) and that doesn't do anything.
>>
>> Sep 27 09:22:24 mystique HORDE: [imp] PHP ERROR: Trying to get property
of
>> non-object [pid 11521 on line 353 of
>> "/home/webmail/public_html/imp/lib/Imap.php"]
>> Sep 27 09:22:24 mystique HORDE: [imp] IMAP error: Can't open mailbox N:
> no
>> such mailbox [pid 11521 on line 340 of
>> "/home/webmail/public_html/imp/lib/Imap.php"]
>> Sep 27 09:22:25 mystique HORDE: [imp] PHP ERROR: json_encode(): Invalid
>> UTF-8 sequence in argument [pid 11521 on line 242 of
>> "/usr/local/lib/php/Horde/Serialize.php"]
>> Sep 27 09:22:25 mystique HORDE: [imp] PHP ERROR: json_encode(): Invalid
>> UTF-8 sequence in argument [pid 11521 on line 289 of
>> "/usr/local/lib/php/Horde/Prefs/Scope.php"]
>> Sep 27 09:
>
> The solution was already posted in this very thread.
>
> Jan.
>
> --
>
> I checked out the archive and wasn't able to find anything other than
> clearing out cache. I tried that on my iphone and still doesn't work. I do
> not have a problem through a desktop browser. I also tried the non-mobile
> view from my iphone and do not have a problem. So I think it is a
> configuration problem with the mobile view. I also tested on iphone 4 and
> that failed as well.
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[imp] Server does not support TLS

2011-09-29 Thread Simon Brereton
Hi

In my horde log, I have:

2011-09-29T15:33:14-04:00 WARN: HORDE4 [imp] PHP ERROR: fwrite(): SSL: Broken 
pipe [pid 23503 on line 3716 of "/usr/share/php/Horde/Imap/Client/Socket.php"]
2011-09-29T15:33:14-04:00 WARN: HORDE4 [imp] PHP ERROR: fwrite() expects 
parameter 1 to be resource, null given [pid 23503 on line 3714 of 
"/usr/share/php/Horde/Imap/Client/Socket.php"]
2011-09-29T15:33:14-04:00 WARN: HORDE4 [imp] PHP ERROR: fwrite() expects 
parameter 1 to be resource, null given [pid 23503 on line 3716 of 
"/usr/share/php/Horde/Imap/Client/Socket.php"]
2011-09-29T15:33:14-04:00 WARN: HORDE4 [imp] PHP ERROR: feof() expects 
parameter 1 to be resource, null given [pid 23503 on line 3909 of 
"/usr/share/php/Horde/Imap/Client/Socket.php"]
2011-09-29T15:33:14-04:00 WARN: HORDE4 [imp] PHP ERROR: fgets() expects 
parameter 1 to be resource, null given [pid 23503 on line 3925 of 
"/usr/share/php/Horde/Imap/Client/Socket.php"]
2011-09-29T15:33:14-04:00 ERR: HORDE4 [imp] IMAP server denied authentication. 
[pid 23503 on line 340 of "/usr/share/horde4/imp/lib/Imap.php"]
2011-09-29T15:38:05-04:00 ERR: HORDE4 [imp] Server does not support TLS 
connections. [pid 23596 on line 340 of "/usr/share/horde4/imp/lib/Imap.php"]


The imap server (localhost) does support TLS, so I'm not sure what this is or 
how to fix it.  It isn't fatal - but I'd prefer it not to be there.

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Re: [imp] Server does not support TLS

2011-09-30 Thread Simon Brereton
> -Original Message-
> From: imp-boun...@lists.horde.org [mailto:imp-
> boun...@lists.horde.org] On Behalf Of Michael M Slusarz
> Quoting Simon Brereton :
> 
> > 2011-09-29T15:33:14-04:00 WARN: HORDE4 [imp] PHP ERROR: fwrite():
> > SSL: Broken pipe [pid 23503 on line 3716 of
> > "/usr/share/php/Horde/Imap/Client/Socket.php"]
> 
> Either your IMAP server or something in PHP is broken.

Whilst I appreciate the response, with all due respect that's not exactly 
helpful.  This is a pretty fresh install of both Dovecot and PHP, and I don't 
really have the skills to tinker too much, so it's unlikely that *I've* screwed 
something up unless it's a problem with the distribution packages (Debian) for 
their application.

But let's take this as a starting point - IMAP will be easier to investigate.  
From the mail logs at the corresponding time..

Nothing.  Much less a "login authentication denied" as indicated by the Horde 
log entry.


However at 15:33:15 I have this:

Sep 29 15:33:15 mail dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=, 
method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, TLS
Sep 29 15:33:15 mail dovecot: IMAP(si...@mydomain.net): Disconnected: Logged 
out bytes=49/409

Successful log-in from Horde.  Note that since both services are on the same 
box, I'd expect the log times to be the same/match exactly.
>From my original mail there was another attempt by Horde..

> > 2011-09-29T15:38:05-04:00 ERR: HORDE4 [imp] Server does not support TLS
> > connections. [pid 23596 on line 340 of "/usr/share/horde4/imp/lib/Imap.php"]


This time less than nothing...

Sep 29 15:38:04 mail postfix/smtpd[19138]: lost connection after RCPT from 
unknown[119.226.97.122]
Sep 29 15:38:04 mail postfix/smtpd[19138]: disconnect from 
unknown[119.226.97.122]
Sep 29 15:38:04 mail postfix/smtpd[19111]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from 
unknown[110.137.205.75]: 554 5.7.1 <75.subnet110-137-205.speedy.telkom.net.id>: 
Helo command rejected: Host not found; from= 
to= proto=ESMTP 
helo=<75.subnet110-137-205.speedy.telkom.net.id>
Sep 29 15:38:05 mail postfix/smtpd[19137]: warning: 187.65.26.234: hostname 
bb411aea.virtua.com.br verification failed: Name or service not known
Sep 29 15:38:05 mail postfix/smtpd[19137]: connect from unknown[187.65.26.234]
Sep 29 15:38:05 mail postfix/smtpd[19111]: lost connection after RCPT from 
unknown[110.137.205.75]
Sep 29 15:38:05 mail postfix/smtpd[19111]: disconnect from 
unknown[110.137.205.75]
Sep 29 15:38:05 mail postfix/smtpd[19058]: warning: 189.104.128.199: hostname 
189104128199.user.veloxzone.com.br verification failed: Name or service not 
known
Sep 29 15:38:05 mail postfix/smtpd[19058]: connect from unknown[189.104.128.199]
Sep 29 15:38:06 mail postfix/smtpd[19112]: warning: 189.106.247.41: hostname 
189106247041.user.veloxzone.com.br verification failed: Name or service not 
known
Sep 29 15:38:06 mail postfix/smtpd[19112]: connect from unknown[189.106.247.41]
Sep 29 15:38:06 mail postfix/smtpd[19138]: connect from unknown[41.221.185.202]


So at this point, either Dovecot isn't seeing the login attempts that Horde is 
claiming, or PHP is doing its own complete random thing.  Assuming nothing 
faulty in my logic here (always a bad idea), how would suggest I debug PHP?

As far as I can tell from the errors it relates to file writing and reading 
routines...  Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

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Re: [imp] Server does not support TLS

2011-09-30 Thread Simon Brereton
> -Original Message-
> From: imp-boun...@lists.horde.org [mailto:imp-
> boun...@lists.horde.org] On Behalf Of Michael M Slusarz

> If it's internal to PHP file reading/writing routines, you will most
> likely need to file a bug with them or at least seek support there.
> We can only control the commands sent to the IMAP server.  Nothing in
> this report indicates that we are sending an incorrect IMAP command,
> so as far as things we can do there is nothing (especially since
> nobody else has reported this issue).
> 
> Or a workaround: if accessing the IMAP server on a secure network
> (e.g. localhost, a private network) there is no need to use TLS at
> all
> - it's just adding unnecessary overhead.

Probably makes sense.  Thanks for the advice and engagement.

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[imp] Personal mail icon

2011-09-30 Thread Simon Brereton
Hi

Can anyone tell me why the personal mail icon in dynamic mode looks like Jar 
Jar Binks in a pink party frock?  :)

Can this icon be replaced locally and survive upgrades?

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Re: [imp] Personal mail icon

2011-10-03 Thread Simon Brereton
> -Original Message-
> From: imp-boun...@lists.horde.org [mailto:imp-
> boun...@lists.horde.org] On Behalf Of Michael M Slusarz
> Quoting Simon Brereton :
> 
> > Hi
> >
> > Can anyone tell me why the personal mail icon in dynamic mode looks
> > like Jar Jar Binks in a pink party frock?  :)
> >
> > Can this icon be replaced locally and survive upgrades?
> 
> Probably not.  You would need to create a new theme, since I believe
> all existing files are overwritten when upgrading via PEAR.
> 
> FWIW, that icon is from the Silk Icons set used for all the other
> icons in the silver theme (http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/silk/).
> If you want to suggest another icon to use, we would listen to all
> suggestions.

Interestingly enough, that is the user_female icon 
http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/silk/previews/index_abc.png - I'd suggest 
the status_online icon would be more gender neutral.

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Re: [imp] IMP about selecting messages

2011-10-21 Thread Simon Brereton
On 21 October 2011 03:07, Matīss Jēkabsons  wrote:
> Hallo!
>
> When i open IMP dynamic view and select some email for reading, it
> automaticly selects with checkbox... is it possible to make it get readable
> but NOT to check checkbox. The issue is that many of clients ar after
> reading some needed mail, going to select unneeded mail for deleting and
> accidently deletes tha one ir needed, couse its automaticly selected when
> readed.
>

I know this bas been discussed on the list before - but it is annoying
and I've been caught out by it before.  I do think the check-box
should be specifically checked.  That would replicate desktop and
mobile client experiences.

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Re: [imp] about latest IMP update and bug after that

2011-11-07 Thread Simon Brereton
On 7 November 2011 08:20,   wrote:
> Quoting Michael M Slusarz :
>
>> Quoting mat...@jekabsons.lv:
>>
>>> hey! is that a bug or what - when forwarding email with attachment, using
>>> default forward button (not forward drop menu) and after select insert
>>> original body text, attacment is automaticly deleted...
>>
>> No it's not.  The default forward button does whatever is requested in the
>> 'forward_default' preference.  If forwarding as an attachment, you won't see
>> an attachment in the attachment list - a Forwarded Message entry will appear
>> that cannot be removed.> And how to change that forward default so it would 
>> be with full body text
> and attachment as normally attachment?

Please don't top post.

Please check your IMP preferences.

Go to IMP, click on preferences, you may need to click on Show
advanced preferences, Mail Forwards.

There you have 3 options.  Pick one.

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Re: [imp] IMP with dynamic is surprising users with how far delete goes

2011-11-08 Thread Simon Brereton
On 8 November 2011 08:08, francis picabia  wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:45 AM, Michael M Slusarz  wrote:
>> Quoting francis picabia :
>>
>>> At our site, we've had dynamic mail with IMP active for roughly 3 weeks.
>>>
>>> Today we have our second user to restore from backup after a user
>>> "accidentally" deletes all of their email.  I had difficulty
>>> understanding this until the second occurrence.
>>>
>>> In traditional mode, the email is displayed in pages. This is like
>>> many online email services at hotmail, google mail, etc.
>>>
>>> Users are accustomed to selecting the upper check box to select
>>> everything on the page (all viewable on the screen).  They select
>>> delete, thinking it is only the messages they see at the time.  In
>>> reality, it selected everything in their mailbox. They purged,
>>> thinking it was only the messages in front of their eyeballs being
>>> purged.  Of course, it deleted and purged everything in their mailbox.
>>
>> You're kidding me, right?  The dynamic view is exactly how every other UI
>> handles a select all.  The traditional view is hamstrung by PHP/page
>> architecture and it is the UI that is wrong.
>>
>> Regardless, the answer is easy.  Use a trash mailbox.
>>
>
> It is no joke, there really are two users who deleted all their email.
>  I'd assume they were more accustomed to the paged view in
> traditional, also used in free webmail interfaces.  It is rather
> alarming if you don't think this is a serious issue.

It's more alarming that a) your users can confuse the functionality of
a SW GUI with a pagination GUI and b) that you do nothing to educate
them.  When you migrated to H4, did you sell it to your
clients/customers/userbase as being new, exciting and advanced and
much more like a SW interface?  (Tip;  use the word cloud interface
and they'll lap it up)...


> We had used a trash in the past with cyrus and imp 3, and people would
> fill up their quota with deleted mail they didn't know was there.

Then that's an imap administration issue.

> How do I enable the trash?  Is this the same as Virtual Trash? I found
> a checkbox to "Automatically create special mailboxes" in a UI part of
> config and turned this on.  Deleted messages are not copied into my
> trash.
>
> Also, does it have a way to automatically delete from trash after XX
> number of days?


Have you looked at the Deleting and Moving Messages preference in IMP?
 Have you considered running an SQL  query to set that for all users?


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Re: [imp] imp configuration

2011-11-10 Thread Simon Wilson
On 10/11/2011, at 10:23 PM, Hugo Oliveira  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I am using the following versions:
> - Horde: 3.3.11
> - IMP: 4.1.6
> - CentOS: 5.5
> 
> The reason for using these versions has to do with company policies that
> have elected CentOS 5.5 as the standard linux distro for the time being and
> from inside CentOS' yum I am only able to get these versions. (I have yet
> to try and update them through PHP PEAR but for that I have first to update
> PHP itself)
> 
> I am trying to integrate imp with my local email server. The email server
> runs sendmail and cyrus-imapd on it. I am able to connect to the server and
> read mail but I seem to be unable to send even though when I try to horde
> seems to connect to the server but the message is never sent.
> 
> Does anyone have an idea on how to debug this or correct this?
> 
> Thank you in advance.
> 
> Best regards,
> Hugo

If sendmail works (i.e. can send mail) Imp will work if configured to use local 
sendmail binary. Take Horde / Imp out of the picture and get sendmail working 
from the console, such as "sendmail havolive...@gmail.com", followed by a 
couple of lines of text, then a period (.) to finish the email.  

if that doesn't work your problem lies in the server's sendmail setup, not 
Horde / Imp. 

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Re: [imp] IMP H4 (5.0.15) (final)

2011-11-23 Thread Simon Brereton
On Nov 23, 2011 3:26 AM,  wrote:
> Quoting Jan Schneider :
>
>> The Horde Team is pleased to announce the final release of the Internet
Mail
>> Program (IMP) version H4 (5.0.15).
>>
>
> after upgrade, some mobile
> interfase users comlaining about
> that after login, to get all working
> you need to refresh page. till
> that, its impossible to open mails.
> Is it known issue or HTC
> Sensation bug?

Please don't top-post.

I has this issue on first login too.  Will retest later.

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Re: [imp] Reply to a message related.

2011-11-23 Thread Simon Brereton
On Nov 23, 2011 2:53 AM, "Matus UHLAR - fantomas"  wrote:
>
> On 17.11.11 16:26, a...@isac.gov.in wrote:
>>
>> I am testing H4.
>>
>> In H3,
>>
>> 1. User has not selected HTML composition by default.
>> 2. He receives a mail in HTML format.
>> 3. He replies, HTML editor gets activated.
>
>
> I would call this a bug.

Or a mimic of Outlook's “Reply with HTML if the recipient wants HTML”
feature..

>
>> In H4,
>>
>> 1. User has not selected HTML composition by default.
>> 2. He receives a mail in HTML format.
>> 3. He replies, HTML editor IS NOT GETTING ACTIVATED.
>
>
> perfect, it was fixed!

Still an improvement. HTML in email was always a terrible idea.

>
>> Is this the intented behaviour in new H4?
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[imp] imp mobile view - was: IMP H4 (5.0.15) (final)

2011-11-23 Thread Simon Brereton
On 23 November 2011 08:07, Simon Brereton  wrote:
>
> On Nov 23, 2011 3:26 AM,  wrote:
>> Quoting Jan Schneider :
>>
>>> The Horde Team is pleased to announce the final release of the Internet
>>> Mail
>>> Program (IMP) version H4 (5.0.15).
>>>
>>
>> after upgrade, some mobile
>> interfase users comlaining about
>> that after login, to get all working
>> you need to refresh page. till
>> that, its impossible to open mails.
>> Is it known issue or HTC
>> Sensation bug?
>
> Please don't top-post.
>
> I has this issue on first login too.  Will retest later.

Is it possible that they are not loading for some reason the
last-login notification?  I have this preference set, and I have to
either refresh or press the back key on my Android device to get to
the mail list after I click on inbox.  Can you post all the steps you
take to reproduce this?

@Jan/Michael - is it intended that from the mobile view that you
cannot delete messages?  I only have next and previous options.

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Re: [imp] IMP H4 (5.0.15) (final)

2011-11-23 Thread Simon Brereton
On Nov 23, 2011 6:03 PM, "Michael M Slusarz"  wrote:
>
> Quoting Simon Brereton :
>
>> On Nov 23, 2011 3:26 AM,  wrote:
>>>
>>> Quoting Jan Schneider :
>>>
>>>> The Horde Team is pleased to announce the final release of the Internet
>>
>> Mail
>>>>
>>>> Program (IMP) version H4 (5.0.15).
>>>>
>>>
>>> after upgrade, some mobile
>>> interfase users comlaining about
>>> that after login, to get all working
>>> you need to refresh page. till
>>> that, its impossible to open mails.
>>> Is it known issue or HTC
>>> Sensation bug?
>>
>>
>> Please don't top-post.
>>
>> I has this issue on first login too.  Will retest later.
>
>
> Because you aren't using static javascript to serve those files.  If you
don't use static javascript, you are at the mercy of browser caching.

I don't understand :)

And why would a mobile browser cache more than a desktop one - in my
experience, it's the opposite.

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Re: [imp] Invalid method "fetch" for actionID "download_attach"

2011-11-24 Thread Simon Brereton
On Nov 24, 2011 6:16 AM, "R Phillips"  wrote:
>
> IMP version 5.0.14, Horde Groupware Webmail Edition 4.0.3
>
> I have been trying to debug multiple repeating instances of the
> following message type:
>
> servername.example.com HORDE: [ID 702911 local3.emerg] [imp] IMP_Imap:
> Invalid method call "fetch". [pid 4807 on line 330 of "/path/to/horde/
> imp/lib/Imap.php"]
>
> This is generated at around line 80 of view.php in /imp as far as I
> can tell, the line:
>
> $contents = $injector->getInstance('IMP_Factory_Contents')-
>
> >create(IMP::$thismailbox->getIndicesOb(IMP::$uid));
>
> ...and always for the actionid of "download_attach" in the "dynamic"
> mode.  It doesn't always fail, only for some people some of the time.

Out of interest, what is your php memory size?

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Re: [imp] Invalid method "fetch" for actionID "download_attach"

2011-11-24 Thread Simon Brereton
On Nov 24, 2011 9:41 AM, "R Phillips"  wrote:
>
> It's currently set to 128M.  Interesting thought though, I could
> increase it slightly and see if the frequency decreases.

I didn't have this error but I do have some users flaking out some of the
time with large mails in the inbox.  Yesterday I increased that value from
256 to 384.

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Re: [imp] Important problem with dynamic interface

2011-11-25 Thread Simon Brereton
2011/11/25 Agustín Quintana :
> English is not my native language; please excuse typing errors.
>
> We have this configuration:
>
> OS: Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS
> Webserver: Apache 2.2.14
> PHP: 5.3.2
> Horde Groupware Webmail Edition 4.0.3
> Horde (horde): 4.0.12
> Mail (imp): 5.0.15
> Imapproxy: 1.2.6
>
> When we view some mailboxes in dynamic mode the connection fails and the
> interface shows the following error:
>
> Error when communicating with the server
>
> This happens too when we do a search.
>
> This doesn't never happens in traditional mode.
>
> Then, we cannot see any folder and in the top of the messages lists shows
> "Loading". This happens with multiple web browsers:

Whats your PHP memory limit set to?

> It seems to be an error with javascript library. No errors in Horde log. We
> clear the browser cache.

And what does your Apache log say?

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Re: [imp] Log file location

2011-11-26 Thread Simon Brereton
On 26 November 2011 09:32, Alex May  wrote:
> Where does Imp store error logs?

Where did you tell it (horde) to log its errors?  Because however you
set up the logging for Horde, that's where the imp errors will be.
Log in as Administrator and check out the logging preferences tab.

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Re: [imp] Log file location

2011-11-26 Thread Simon Brereton
Please don't top-post.

On 26 November 2011 10:29, Alex May  wrote:

> - Original Message -
> From: "Simon Brereton"  On 26 November 2011 09:32, Alex May  wrote:
>> Where does Imp store error logs?
>
> Where did you tell it (horde) to log its errors?  Because however you
> set up the logging for Horde, that's where the imp errors will be.
> Log in as Administrator and check out the logging preferences tab.
>
> Simon

> The setting on that tab are as follows. None of those look like a directory 
> and filename to me.
> Can someone explain please or tell me where this is documented.
>
> $conf['log']['priority'] = 'INFO';
> $conf['log']['ident'] = 'HORDE';
> $conf['log']['name'] = LOG_USER;
> $conf['log']['type'] = 'syslog';
> $conf['log']['enabled'] = true;
> $conf['log_accesskeys'] = false;

This depends on your system.  Therefore it will be documented in your
systems syslog documentation.  However, you can start by looking at
/var/log/syslog  or you could change the logging to be file and then
define the the file and path you want.

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Re: [imp] Log file location

2011-11-26 Thread Simon Brereton
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOFU

On 26 November 2011 17:12, Alex May  wrote:

> - Original Message -
> From: "Simon Brereton"  Please don't top-post.
>
> On 26 November 2011 10:29, Alex May  wrote:
>
>> ----- Original Message -
>> From: "Simon Brereton" > On 26 November 2011 09:32, Alex May  wrote:
>>> Where does Imp store error logs?
>>
>> Where did you tell it (horde) to log its errors? Because however you
>> set up the logging for Horde, that's where the imp errors will be.
>> Log in as Administrator and check out the logging preferences tab.
>>
>> Simon
>
>> The setting on that tab are as follows. None of those look like a directory 
>> and filename to me.
>> Can someone explain please or tell me where this is documented.
>>
>> $conf['log']['priority'] = 'INFO';
>> $conf['log']['ident'] = 'HORDE';
>> $conf['log']['name'] = LOG_USER;
>> $conf['log']['type'] = 'syslog';
>> $conf['log']['enabled'] = true;
>> $conf['log_accesskeys'] = false;
>
> This depends on your system.  Therefore it will be documented in your
> systems syslog documentation.  However, you can start by looking at
> /var/log/syslog  or you could change the logging to be file and then
> define the the file and path you want.

> I don't know what you mean by top-post. I am just replying to the email.
> My system logs are in /var/log although there is no syslog in there.
> I assume when you say I could change the logging to be file you mean changing
> $conf['log']['type'] = 'file'; ?
> How do I define the path and file name though?
> And once again, is this documented anywhere?
> The only documentation that I could find was on installation.

Well, if you won't tell us what system you have, then we can't help.
Debian (which I use) does have a /var/log/syslog.log.  But syslog also
allows me to define a *.horde and route it to a specific
/path/to/file.log

However, if you go to the administrations options and change the horde
option from syslog to file you will find the options available will
change to guide you (which is perhaps why it's not specifically
documented someplace).  However, if you just change it in the file
then you're on your own.  I wouldn't recommend this approach.

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Re: [imp] IMP new message only say "Loading..." but way?

2011-11-29 Thread Simon Brereton
On 29 November 2011 05:27, Samuel Wolf  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have some times the problem on a new message or double click on a message 
> that the new window only say "Loading...".
> Empty the browser cache do not help, the problem solve itself after some 
> hours.
>
> If a other horde user login on the same machine/browser the new window is 
> loading.
>
> Horde 4.0.12
> IMP 5.0.15
>
> Cache in Horde is complete deactivated, found nothing wrong in the horde 
> debug logfile.

What is the value of  memory_limit in your php.ini?

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Re: [imp] IMP new message only say "Loading..." but way?

2011-11-29 Thread Simon Brereton
On 29 November 2011 10:36, Samuel Wolf  wrote:
>>
>>What is the value of memory_limit in your php.ini?
>>
> memory_limit = 512M
>
> Found some debug information and create a bug report now #10810, but now not 
> sure it's really a bug. :(

If your memory is that high, it probably is a bug.  According a
current thread though if you're using SQL VFS you may need to go
higher than that.

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Re: [imp] Composition and PDF attachments

2011-11-30 Thread Simon Brereton
On 30 November 2011 17:28, Michael M Slusarz  wrote:
> Quoting cjdl01 :
>
>> Quoting Michael M Slusarz :
>>
>>> Quoting cjdl01 :
>>>
>>>> I'm using Imp 5.0.15 with Horde 4.0.12.
>>>>
>>>> I am a linux guy, so I do 99% of my work on linux boxes.  As part of my
>>>> work, I send a lot of invoices out to customers in pdf format.
>>>>
>>>> I am using Mozilla firefox 7.0.1, and Adobe Reader 9.4.2 with the
>>>> firefox plugin on a gentoo box current as of yesterday.  It works fine
>>>> normally, but for some reason, when attaching a PDF to an email and 
>>>> clicking
>>>> on the link (name of the attachment) to verify the document, it always 
>>>> opens
>>>> up a blank, white window.  There is a very long, ugly URL in the address 
>>>> bar
>>>> of that window (probably going to a hashed temp file), but nothing renders.
>>>>
>>>> Clicking the attachment name link does not even offer me to download or
>>>> open in another program, it just opens that blank window.
>>>>
>>>> This is going to slow my workflow down something fierce.  Is there
>>>> anything I can do to fix this?
>>>
>>>
>>> I can verify that this works fine for me.  There was a bug related to
>>> this, but it was fixed for 5.0.15.
>>>
>>> commit e08081438cb1a09638897cabd1e46fb3e1120e59
>>> Author: Michael M Slusarz 
>>> Date:   Mon Oct 31 22:43:50 2011 -0600
>>>
>>>   Fix intermittent attachment loss when composing messages.
>>>
>>>   Fixed by implementing Serializable for IMP_Compose.
>>>
>>>   In the server access when attaching a file, the Horde_Mime_Part
>>> contains
>>>   the data of the attachment, stored in a stream.  When saving the
>>>   IMP_Compose object to the session, this part was being serialized with
>>>   the entire contents of the data into the part.  Not good for session
>>>   sizes, and this data was periodically being lost.  We already have the
>>>   attachment data stored (either in VFS or filesystem), so we don't need
>>>   this data to be stored in the MIME Part - scrub it before serializing.
>>>
>>>   For the record, the way to reproduce:
>>>
>>>   1. Use dynamic view
>>>   2. Open compose screen
>>>   3. Attach a file
>>>   4. Insert at least one character in body (to trigger auto-save draft)
>>>   5. Wait for an auto-save draft
>>>   6. Try to view contents of attachment - error will be thrown.
>>>
>>> michael
>>
>>
>> It looks like firefox 8 just hit portage today, so I installed that, and
>> re-tested.  It is still doing the same thing.  I logged into a windows box
>> with FF8, and it works as expected.  So it seems to be related just to linux
>> FF.  Are you using a Linux Desktop with FF8, Michael?
>>
>> I don't think that this is necessarily a horde bug (it probably has more
>> to do with the linux port of FF), but if there is anything I can do to get
>> this working it would be of great help.
>
>
> Right now I am using FF9 on Win7.
>
> But the PDF plugin is known to be wonky at times on all platforms, at least
> for me.  I can load a PDF and nothing will happen - then I hit refresh and
> it will instantly load.  That's sort of what your issue feels like.


Unless I'm missing something the OP is on 4.0.12 and Michael stated
this was fixed in 4.0.15.  Perhaps a Horde/IMP upgraded is necessary
before continuing?

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Re: [imp] Composition and PDF attachments

2011-11-30 Thread Simon Brereton
On Nov 30, 2011 5:51 PM, "cjdl01"  wrote:
>
>
> Quoting Simon Brereton :
>
>> On 30 November 2011 17:28, Michael M Slusarz  wrote:
>>>
>>> Quoting cjdl01 :
>>>
>>>> Quoting Michael M Slusarz :
>>>>
>>>>> Quoting cjdl01 :
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm using Imp 5.0.15 with Horde 4.0.12.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am a linux guy, so I do 99% of my work on linux boxes.  As part of
my
>>>>>> work, I send a lot of invoices out to customers in pdf format.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am using Mozilla firefox 7.0.1, and Adobe Reader 9.4.2 with the
>>>>>> firefox plugin on a gentoo box current as of yesterday.  It works
fine
>>>>>> normally, but for some reason, when attaching a PDF to an email and
clicking
>>>>>> on the link (name of the attachment) to verify the document, it
always opens
>>>>>> up a blank, white window.  There is a very long, ugly URL in the
address bar
>>>>>> of that window (probably going to a hashed temp file), but nothing
renders.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Clicking the attachment name link does not even offer me to download
or
>>>>>> open in another program, it just opens that blank window.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is going to slow my workflow down something fierce.  Is there
>>>>>> anything I can do to fix this?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can verify that this works fine for me.  There was a bug related to
>>>>> this, but it was fixed for 5.0.15.
>>>>>
>>>>> commit e08081438cb1a09638897cabd1e46fb3e1120e59
>>>>> Author: Michael M Slusarz 
>>>>> Date:   Mon Oct 31 22:43:50 2011 -0600
>>>>>
>>>>>   Fix intermittent attachment loss when composing messages.
>>>>>
>>>>>   Fixed by implementing Serializable for IMP_Compose.
>>>>>
>>>>>   In the server access when attaching a file, the Horde_Mime_Part
>>>>> contains
>>>>>   the data of the attachment, stored in a stream.  When saving the
>>>>>   IMP_Compose object to the session, this part was being serialized
with
>>>>>   the entire contents of the data into the part.  Not good for session
>>>>>   sizes, and this data was periodically being lost.  We already have
the
>>>>>   attachment data stored (either in VFS or filesystem), so we don't
need
>>>>>   this data to be stored in the MIME Part - scrub it before
serializing.
>>>>>
>>>>>   For the record, the way to reproduce:
>>>>>
>>>>>   1. Use dynamic view
>>>>>   2. Open compose screen
>>>>>   3. Attach a file
>>>>>   4. Insert at least one character in body (to trigger auto-save
draft)
>>>>>   5. Wait for an auto-save draft
>>>>>   6. Try to view contents of attachment - error will be thrown.
>>>>>
>>>>> michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It looks like firefox 8 just hit portage today, so I installed that,
and
>>>> re-tested.  It is still doing the same thing.  I logged into a windows
box
>>>> with FF8, and it works as expected.  So it seems to be related just to
linux
>>>> FF.  Are you using a Linux Desktop with FF8, Michael?
>>>>
>>>> I don't think that this is necessarily a horde bug (it probably has
more
>>>> to do with the linux port of FF), but if there is anything I can do to
get
>>>> this working it would be of great help.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Right now I am using FF9 on Win7.
>>>
>>> But the PDF plugin is known to be wonky at times on all platforms, at
least
>>> for me.  I can load a PDF and nothing will happen - then I hit refresh
and
>>> it will instantly load.  That's sort of what your issue feels like.
>>
>>
>>
>> Unless I'm missing something the OP is on 4.0.12 and Michael stated
>> this was fixed in 4.0.15.  Perhaps a Horde/IMP upgraded is necessary
>> before continuing?
>>
>> Simon
>
>
> Hi simon,
>
> He said: "...but it was fixed for 5.0.15", which refers to Imp, which is
most current.  I'm current on all horde apps as of today.  I don't think
this bug is the same thing I'm viewing anyway, since it seems to apply only
to Linux FF/Acroread.
>
> I have tried every setting regarding pdfs on firefox that I can think of,
tried switching to okular, tried setting it to open PDF files with the
acroread program (not the plugin), I even set it to "Save File"... nothing
works. I get that blank screen every time.
>
> There is something very different about that link.  Every other pdf on
the web works (an any of the configs I mentioned), but not this horde link.
 There is something different going on with it, I cannot even right click
it and choose "save link location" like a normal link.

Sorry.  Saw that too late.

Have you tried cute-pdf plugin?

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Re: [imp] Composition and PDF attachments

2011-11-30 Thread Simon Brereton
On 30 November 2011 18:38, cjdl01  wrote:
>
> Quoting Simon Brereton :
>
>> On Nov 30, 2011 5:51 PM, "cjdl01"  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Simon Brereton :
>>>
>>>> On 30 November 2011 17:28, Michael M Slusarz  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Quoting cjdl01 :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Quoting Michael M Slusarz :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quoting cjdl01 :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm using Imp 5.0.15 with Horde 4.0.12.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am a linux guy, so I do 99% of my work on linux boxes.  As part of
>>
>> my
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> work, I send a lot of invoices out to customers in pdf format.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am using Mozilla firefox 7.0.1, and Adobe Reader 9.4.2 with the
>>>>>>>> firefox plugin on a gentoo box current as of yesterday.  It works
>>
>> fine
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> normally, but for some reason, when attaching a PDF to an email and
>>
>> clicking
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> on the link (name of the attachment) to verify the document, it
>>
>> always opens
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> up a blank, white window.  There is a very long, ugly URL in the
>>
>> address bar
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> of that window (probably going to a hashed temp file), but nothing
>>
>> renders.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Clicking the attachment name link does not even offer me to download
>>
>> or
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> open in another program, it just opens that blank window.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is going to slow my workflow down something fierce.  Is there
>>>>>>>> anything I can do to fix this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can verify that this works fine for me.  There was a bug related to
>>>>>>> this, but it was fixed for 5.0.15.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> commit e08081438cb1a09638897cabd1e46fb3e1120e59
>>>>>>> Author: Michael M Slusarz 
>>>>>>> Date:   Mon Oct 31 22:43:50 2011 -0600
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Fix intermittent attachment loss when composing messages.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Fixed by implementing Serializable for IMP_Compose.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  In the server access when attaching a file, the Horde_Mime_Part
>>>>>>> contains
>>>>>>>  the data of the attachment, stored in a stream.  When saving the
>>>>>>>  IMP_Compose object to the session, this part was being serialized
>>
>> with
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  the entire contents of the data into the part.  Not good for session
>>>>>>>  sizes, and this data was periodically being lost.  We already have
>>
>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  attachment data stored (either in VFS or filesystem), so we don't
>>
>> need
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  this data to be stored in the MIME Part - scrub it before
>>
>> serializing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  For the record, the way to reproduce:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  1. Use dynamic view
>>>>>>>  2. Open compose screen
>>>>>>>  3. Attach a file
>>>>>>>  4. Insert at least one character in body (to trigger auto-save
>>
>> draft)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  5. Wait for an auto-save draft
>>>>>>>  6. Try to view contents of attachment - error will be thrown.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It looks like firefox 8 just hit portage today, so I installed that,
>>
>> and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> re-tested.  It is still doing the same thing.  I logged into a windows

Re: [imp] Cursor comes after Signature

2011-12-09 Thread Simon Brereton
On 9 December 2011 08:41, Vikas Parashar
 wrote:
> Hello,
>
> We are using Horde4.I get cursor on right position When composing  new
> message or forward a message. But In case of reply the message i find it
> after the signature.
> Is there is any way to fix it.

It's a user preference.  In Mail Preferences, Message Composition...

Where should the cursor be located in the compose text area by default?
Top, Bottom, Before Signature

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Re: [imp] Delay after login

2011-12-12 Thread Simon Brereton
On Dec 12, 2011 3:36 AM, "Jānis"  wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> After upgrade to Horde 4.0.12 some strange delay showed up rigth after
the login - browser shows about 50% progress, then freezes for some 5 -10
(?) seconds and then the portal page opens (as it should).
>
> Is that ok?

Cleared your cache?

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Re: [imp] smime support in Horde 4.0

2011-12-22 Thread Simon Brereton
On 22 December 2011 17:38, Nikolaos Milas  wrote:
> On 22/12/2011 11:49 μμ, Jan Schneider wrote:
>
>> You did configure OpenSSL in Horde, right?
>
>
> Hmm, how is done that? I only did:
>
>   pear install horde/webmail
>
> and then I ran "webmail-install"...


But in the configuration panel, you have to tell Horde where to find
the ssl binary...

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Re: [imp] smime support in Horde 4.0

2011-12-23 Thread Simon Brereton
On 23 December 2011 08:10, Nikolaos Milas  wrote:
> On 23/12/2011 1:20 πμ, Simon Brereton wrote:
>
>> But in the configuration panel, you have to tell Horde where to find
>> the ssl binary...
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> I found that now. I added the two settings in config/conf.php:
>
> $conf['openssl']['cafile'] = '/etc/pki/CA/certs/ca-bundle.crt';
> $conf['openssl']['path'] = '/usr/bin/openssl';
>
> I confirmed that the paths are correct.
>
> But still I see:
>
> The data in this part has been digitally signed via S/MIME.
> S/MIME support is not enabled so the digital signature is unable to be
> verified.

Possibly you don't need the ca-bundle.crt - on my system that value is
/etc/ssl/certs

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Re: [imp] smime support in Horde 4.0

2011-12-23 Thread Simon Brereton
On 23 December 2011 10:21, Nikolaos Milas  wrote:
> On 23/12/2011 5:01 μμ, Simon Brereton wrote:
>
>> On 23 December 2011 08:10, Nikolaos Milas  wrote:
>>>
>>> I found that now. I added the two settings in config/conf.php:
>>>
>>> $conf['openssl']['cafile'] = '/etc/pki/CA/certs/ca-bundle.crt';
>>> $conf['openssl']['path'] = '/usr/bin/openssl';
>>
>> Possibly you don't need the ca-bundle.crt - on my system that value is
>> /etc/ssl/certs
>
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> My '/etc/pki/CA/certs/ca-bundle.crt' is a very current CA certificate file,
> where we have also added the chain certificates for the CA which issues our
> organization's certs.
>
> This file works:
>    # cat 1324565422.M899551P27561.vmail.noa.gr,S=7583,W=7704:2,Sa | openssl
> smime -verify -CAfile /etc/pki/CA/certs/ca-bundle.crt
>    Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>    Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
>    Verification successful
>
> So, it's something horde-specific.

Okay, but previously your Horde logs wouldn't have had a specific
error because ssl wasn't configured.  Does it now?

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Re: [imp] smime support in Horde 4.0

2011-12-23 Thread Simon Brereton
On 23 December 2011 11:32, Nikolaos Milas  wrote:
> On 23/12/2011 5:26 μμ, Simon Brereton wrote:
>
>> Okay, but previously your Horde logs wouldn't have had a specific
>> error because ssl wasn't configured.  Does it now?
>
>
> Thanks Simon,
>
> No, nothing pertinent is logged.
>
> By the way, I have:
>
>   $conf['log']['type'] = 'syslog';
>   $conf['log']['name'] = LOG_USER;
>
> and this fills my /var/log/messages with horde logging.
>
> Can we configure in Horde a particular syslog facility, like local6, so I
> can direct logging to a particular file?
>
> I tried adding in syslog.conf:
>
>   local6.*                                      /var/log/horde.log
>
> and then configuring:
>
>   $conf['log']['name'] = 'local6';

If you want to log to file there is an easier way to do that.  From
what I know of syslog your approach should work.  But I would just say
go to the logging tab in Horde Administration and change the log type
to file,  You might also like to change the log-level temporarily to
debug your SMIME issue.

Make sure the file (path and location) are writeable by your web-server user.

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Re: [imp] DIMP cannot display message-list / IMP works fine

2011-12-24 Thread Simon Brereton
On 24 December 2011 07:10, Christian Adler  wrote:
>
>
> Am 23.12.11 20:51, schrieb Michael M Slusarz:
>> Quoting Christian Adler :
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> following setup:
>>>
>>> Horde-4.0.13
>>> IMP-5.0.17
>>> Dovecot-IMAP 2.0.15
>>>
>>> The "Traditionel"-Mode works fine, but login with "automatic" oder
>>> "dynamic" produce an empty message-list and 4 popups with
>>>
>>> "Network-Error"
>>> "Server cannot create message-list"
>>
>> Make sure you are not using old cached javascript on your browser.
>>
>
>
> I used a browser (firefox and IE) on a complete new installation. Same
> error.

PHP Memory Limit?

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Re: [imp] New Message in moble (Smart)

2012-01-05 Thread Simon Brereton
On 5 January 2012 14:57, Tony Arcus  wrote:
> Trying to find the "New Message" button in the mobile (smart) version of
> IMP.

For now the mobile interface is read only,,

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Re: [imp] autoexpand does not work with contact lists.

2012-02-02 Thread Simon Wilson

- Message from ANANT S ATHAVALE  -
   Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2012 10:39:46 +0530
   From: ANANT S ATHAVALE 
Subject: Re: [imp] autoexpand does not work with contact lists.
 To: imp@lists.horde.org



Dear All,

Please atleast one person confirm auto expansion of contact lists  
created under personal address book created in SQL in H4/IMP5.


Regards,


Works for me. SQL Personal Address Book, H4.0.13, Imp 5.0.18. New Mail  
in Imp, start typing addressee, drop down appears with matching  
entries from the Address Book. Is that what you mean?


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Re: [imp] autoexpand does not work with contact lists.

2012-02-03 Thread Simon Wilson

Dear All,

Please atleast one person confirm auto expansion of contact lists  
created under personal address book created in SQL in H4/IMP5.


Regards,


Works for me. SQL Personal Address Book, H4.0.13, Imp 5.0.18. New  
Mail in Imp, start typing addressee, drop down appears with  
matching entries from the Address Book. Is that what you mean?


Simon


Thanks.  You are partially correct. For me also this much works.   
But, I have created contact lists within my address book.  I hope  
you have used feature of contact lists in 'my address book'.  We can  
group existing email address available in 'my address book' with a  
common name as contact lists.  In H3/IMP4, even those contact lists  
names used to get expanded to corresponding email addresses, which  
is not happening in current version.


I request you to try creating contact lists two addresses available  
in your address book and see whether the contact list name gets  
expanded to corresponding email ids.


-anant.




OK, I created a Contact List in Turba - called Test Group. Placed  
three contacts in it. Imp does NOT auto-expand when I type "Test" or  
"Group" in a new email.


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Re: [imp] migrating users from traditional to dynamic interface (message deletion)

2012-02-15 Thread Simon Brereton
On 15 February 2012 16:13, Michael M Slusarz  wrote:
> Quoting Jan Schneider :
>
>> Zitat von Michael M Slusarz :
>>
>>> Quoting Gunnar Wrobel :
>>>
>>>> Zitat von Michael M Slusarz :
>>>>
>>>>> Quoting Gunnar Wrobel :
>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem you describe obviously originates from the fact that it
>>>>>> was unclear to the user that she selected *all* messages. Looking at our 
>>>>>> UI
>>>>>> I must admit that this is hard to see. We display the note "358 messages
>>>>>> selected" but it is a faint gray and may be difficult to see. I wonder 
>>>>>> if we
>>>>>> could make this more obvious. Do people think that this might be an 
>>>>>> option?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure if making the message count in the preview box darker is
>>>>> going to help out.  I would argue that making it darker will make it more
>>>>> difficult to read the screen in general - I think it is at an appropriate
>>>>> color level now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Design-wise I agree. I was wondering if it could make sense to push a
>>>> notification saying how many messages were selected. But somehow I assume
>>>> there are reasons that disallow this :)
>>>
>>>
>>> A notification message?  That seems a bit extreme for an action as basic
>>> as selecting messages.  I don't want to see a notification every time I open
>>> a message that says "You have opened a message!".  Not tremendously useful.
>>>  Notification messages are generally for things that happened outside of the
>>> view/knowledge of the user.
>>
>>
>> How about the highlighting that I just added to develop? This could even
>> be added to more focused events, i.e. only when really selecting all
>> messages.
>
>
> I personally find this very annoying.  At a minimum it should be limited to
> the '# messages' part of the text, rather than the entire DIV.  Especially
> since the info graphic disappears/reappears every time a message is
> selected.  And it should not be highlighted when a message is deselected
> (i.e. after reading a message and deleting it).

I've been really ambivalent about this thread - especially as I can
see both arguments.  My proposal would be to have this as a user or
site option the same way Outlook does.  That way if you're migrating
from Traditional to Dynamic mindless users won't get caught out and
mindful users can turn it off (or site administrators can if they
know/trust their user-base.

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Re: [imp] ~100 % cpu load of apache

2012-02-23 Thread Simon Brereton
On Feb 23, 2012 10:15 AM, "Samuel Wolf"  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> get today ~100 % cpu load of apache on the server.
>
> Found the following alerts in the syslog or is that the result of the
~100 % cpu load?
> Feb 23 15:52:12 mailserver suhosin[27302]: ALERT - canary mismatch on
efree() - heap overflow detected at 0x7fd4d20704b8 (attacker 'REMOTE_ADDR
not set', file '/usr/share/php/Horde/Autoloader.php', line 66)
> Feb 23 15:52:15 mailserver suhosin[27232]: ALERT - canary mismatch on
efree() - heap overflow detected at 0x7fd4d20704b8 (attacker 'REMOTE_ADDR
not set', file '/var/www/https/horde4/config/prefs.php', line 356)

The recommendation is to disable suhosin.

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[imp] Adding Contacts from an Email

2012-03-02 Thread Simon Brereton
Hi

I'm not sure if this should go to Turba or IMP, but either way it's sub-optimal.

When I receive an email and I wish to rdd one of the recipients to my
address book, I'm able to click on the email and see the option to add
to address book.  Clicking that shows a green notification that the
person has been added.  But then I have to go the address book to
correct and/or enter the name.  It would be better if there was an
overlay that allowed you to do that from the IMP screen as other MUAs
allow you to do.

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Re: [imp] how to forward mail?

2012-03-15 Thread Simon Brereton
On Mar 15, 2012 3:45 PM, "Elise"  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've searched the FAQ, but I can't still figure this out:
>
> How can I automatically forward incoming email from my email account on a
> horde imp webmail to my pop3 email account?
> Or, even better, where can I find the server settings needed to add my
> imp-email address into Outlook (e.g.: what is the pop/imap and smtp name
of
> this horde/imp account)??
>
> Thanks a lot for any help!

It would be better to ask your email provider who set Horde/Imp up.

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Re: [imp] Horde 4.0.14 / IMP 5.0.19 / Trouble with dynamic interface

2012-03-15 Thread Simon Brereton
On Mar 15, 2012 5:55 PM, "Florent TETART"  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> First, thank you all for this nice Groupware, wich is exactly what I need
for my company.
>
> I installed Horde 4.0.14 / IMP 5.0.19 (I followed the quick setup guide)
on a Ubuntu 11.10 with all the defaults packages (apache, mysql, etc.) from
the distro.
> Everything works fine except for IMP in dynamic mode. I often get the
following js error that makes the inbox stay empty :
>
> TypeError: this.data.get(o.key) is undefined
> this.data.get(o.key).VP_rownum = o.value; (log in the console of firebug
in Firefox)
>
> It happens what ever the size of the mailbox (I have the same error from
a mailbox with 50 messages as well as a mailbox with 6500 messages).
>
> I changed the parameters of the php.ini file to have a long execution
time (300s), a big memory limit (128Mo), I cleaned the browsers cache, I
changed the timeout parameter for the Imap backend to 100, I
disabled/enabled the cache, with the file driver or Sql driver, there's no
error message in horde logs, no error message in apache/php logs, the
responses to the ajax queries viewPort and listMailboxes seems to be good
(firebug can interpret the returned json structure ), I searched for two
days in Google, mailings lists and I can't understand why...
>
> The only clues I found :
> -There's the suhosin patch on my apache2 php module but as I read, it
should works
> -It works for a few users  (even with big mailboxes) in dynamic mode
> -It always works in classic mode
> -I found a mail :
http://lists.horde.org/archives/imp/Week-of-Mon-2028/052961.html with
the same problem where the IMP version mentionned is 5.0.15. Michael M
Slusarz answered it was fixed in IMP 5.0.14
>
> So I don't know what to do more to find a solution if any. I may use the
classic interface but the dynamic one is so nice...

Google should also have pointed you to numerous threads advising you to
delete/disable suhosin.  It comes up at least once a month.

Google would also also have pointed you to a thread of mine advising a
memory limit for php of 256mb.

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[imp] 2-Step Authentication

2012-04-18 Thread Simon Brereton
Hi

Are you planning to implement 2-step authentication in the next Horde release?

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2012/04/make-your-email-hacker-proof.html

It would be relatively trivial so long as a mobile app can be written
(and that could be done in html5, so it shouldn't need to be device
dependent).

If not, let me know and I'll add a feature request.

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Re: [imp] 2-Step Authentication

2012-04-19 Thread Simon Brereton
On Apr 19, 2012 3:48 AM, "Michael M Slusarz"  wrote:
>
> Quoting Andrew Morgan :
>
>> I'm not sure where you are getting your information from - unless you
think Google's 2-step verification via a cell phone is not actually
2-factor authentication?  Since a hacker won't have access to your phone,
they cannot retrieve the one-time PIN generated by Google and sent to your
phone.
>
>
> I didn't say this wasn't 2-factor authentication.  Of course it is.  But
what does that mean?  2-factor authentication in and of itself doesn't
imply any sort of additional security.
>
> AFAICT, with Google's system you could have a password like "password".
 You then get a PIN such as "123456".  So your password essentially becomes
"password123456".  Don't see how this is any different than forcing a user
to have a password of at least 12 characters, and having this password
expire every 30 days.

But that's not how it works.  Think of the cell phone more of an RSA token
than an SMS.  Your other points not withstanding (and there a large FUD
factor in that article, I admit), even a password like password becomes
more secure if you have to tack on a random 6 figure number.

And yes, I realise for the majority it amounts to a 30 day expiration - but
the real value is in having to get a unique random 6 figure number for
every access terminal (in a shared computer environment like a university
that becomes very effective).

It was just something to think about.

> Especially since almost every sane user is NOT going to have the PIN sent
to them on every email access.  They are going to have the PIN sent to them
once every 30 days.  (I will say that having the PIN sent every time is
similar to the RSA keyfob security method, although not as secure since the
PIN has to be delivered via the cellular network).

That's exactly how it works though!  The app sits there generating a PIN
every minute - just like the key fob.

> Not to mention that if you REALLY care about security, you're not going
to have Google host your data anyway.

Which is why I'm asking here :)

>> Sending an SMS message to an arbitrary cell phone number is hard though.
Most providers have email-to-SMS gateways, but that requires getting more
information from the user than just their cell phone number.  You need to
know their carrier in order to lookup the email gateway from a list, or the
user must provide the full email-to-SMS gateway email address for their
phone.  Sending "real" SMS messages requires getting a special cell card
from a carrier and signing a contract saying how many messages you'll be
sending.
>
>
> You simply can't require SMS for anything.  Cell service is not
universal.  And plenty of people don't have SMS, because of cost (e.g. my
parents) or because of technical reasons (I have friends who work in the
finance industry who, because of SEC regulations, are not allowed to
receive SMS messages).
>
> It seems to me that a OTP system is preferable to any kind of system that
requires an additional network.  Especially with the prevalence of
smartphones, it is trivial for a user to carry around the pad (which used
to be the limiting factor in implementing).  It implements no further
requirements than Google's 2-factor system  since both require a phone, and
has the additional bonuses of being easier to implement and, if implemented
correctly, 100% secure.
>
> My point being that at a practical level, you can provide secure
passwords easier/more reliably by enforcing appropriate password policies
rather than by adding additional levels to the process.

I don't think - for reasons outlined - SMS is not feasible, and that's why
the Google Authenticator app works so well...

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Re: [imp] Configuring Horde to use imap boxes

2012-04-27 Thread Simon Brereton
On Apr 27, 2012 7:41 AM, "Dinoosh Nikapitiya" 
wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I installed a Mail server using exim4, dovecot-imap, with virtual users in
> a debian squeeze server. Now i want to install horde as its webmail
> interface.
>
> I installed horde using pear but cannot find a way to configure horde to
> show users mail boxes. i found few howtos telling that to edit server.conf
> but i cannot find it in horde folders.
>
> Please anyone can show me how i to configure it will be a great help.

did you also install imp via PEAR?  What does the content of your horde
directory look like?  What install commands did you use?

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Re: [imp] sasl with relaying

2012-05-02 Thread Simon Brereton
On 2 May 2012 10:19, zBit  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I've setup the smtp authentication in configuration files (config/conf.php, 
> imp/config/backends.local.php)
> but when I try to send an e-mail using bad credentials, the e-mail is sent 
> nevertheless as the mailserver
> permits relaying for the horde host. I assume that horde uses some kind of 
> fallback so that whenever
> the authentication fails it somehow bypasses the authentication completely. I 
> would like to retain smtp
> relaying. Is there any way to enforce the sasl authentication?

Do you have Horde and your MTA on the same host?  In which case have
you set up a submission port (typically 587) for mail from
Horde/roaming users?  because if IMP is doing SMTP on 127.0.0.1:25
then it's likely whitelisted by the MTA anyway..


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[imp] Block Images unless sender in Address book no longer working

2012-05-29 Thread Simon Wilson

I have Imp 5.0.21 (just upgraded a couple of days ago, including clearing
cache etc). No other changes on the server in recent weeks.

  In my preferences, the following is set:

  Block images in messages unless they are specifically requested? - YES

Automatically show images in messages when the sender is in my address
book? - YES

  Imp no longer asks if I want to show blocked images (both Traditional
and Dynamic), but shows all HTML images for ALL emails, regardless of
whether the sender is in my address book. I have tried from a PC and my
iPad - both the same.

  Did something change?

  Simon.
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Re: [imp] Block Images unless sender in Address book no longer working

2012-05-29 Thread Simon Wilson

- Message from Simon Wilson  -
   Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 12:42:08 +1000
   From: Simon Wilson 
Subject: [imp] Block Images unless sender in Address book no longer working
 To: imp@lists.horde.org



I have Imp 5.0.21 (just upgraded a couple of days ago, including clearing
cache etc). No other changes on the server in recent weeks.

  In my preferences, the following is set:

  Block images in messages unless they are specifically requested? - YES

Automatically show images in messages when the sender is in my address
book? - YES

  Imp no longer asks if I want to show blocked images (both Traditional
and Dynamic), but shows all HTML images for ALL emails, regardless of
whether the sender is in my address book. I have tried from a PC and my
iPad - both the same.

  Did something change?

  Simon.
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Hmm... I assume the BAD pgp signature on that was because I  
accidentally sent it as HTML and it has been stripped to plaintext?


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Re: [imp] Block Images unless sender in Address book no longer working

2012-05-30 Thread Simon Wilson

- Message from Simon Wilson  -
   Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 12:42:08 +1000
   From: Simon Wilson 
Subject: [imp] Block Images unless sender in Address book no longer working
 To: imp@lists.horde.org



I have Imp 5.0.21 (just upgraded a couple of days ago, including clearing
cache etc). No other changes on the server in recent weeks.

  In my preferences, the following is set:

  Block images in messages unless they are specifically requested? - YES

Automatically show images in messages when the sender is in my address
book? - YES

  Imp no longer asks if I want to show blocked images (both Traditional
and Dynamic), but shows all HTML images for ALL emails, regardless of
whether the sender is in my address book. I have tried from a PC and my
iPad - both the same.

  Did something change?

  Simon.
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Is anyone else seeing this? I am really not keen on Imp downloading  
all images by default. I have a pretty good anti-spam setup, but some  
things do get through occasionally - downloading all images in all  
emails without asking is an issue I am keen to resolve.


Simon.


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Re: [imp] Block Images unless sender in Address book no longer working

2012-06-01 Thread Simon Wilson

- Message from Simon Wilson  -
   Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 08:44:29 +1000
   From: Simon Wilson 
Subject: Re: [imp] Block Images unless sender in Address book no  
longer working

 To: imp@lists.horde.org



- Message from Simon Wilson  -
   Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 12:42:08 +1000
   From: Simon Wilson 
Subject: [imp] Block Images unless sender in Address book no longer working
 To: imp@lists.horde.org



I have Imp 5.0.21 (just upgraded a couple of days ago, including clearing
cache etc). No other changes on the server in recent weeks.

 In my preferences, the following is set:

 Block images in messages unless they are specifically requested? - YES

Automatically show images in messages when the sender is in my address
book? - YES

 Imp no longer asks if I want to show blocked images (both Traditional
and Dynamic), but shows all HTML images for ALL emails, regardless of
whether the sender is in my address book. I have tried from a PC and my
iPad - both the same.

 Did something change?

 Simon.
 ___
 Simon Wilson
 M: 0400 12 11 16



Is anyone else seeing this? I am really not keen on Imp downloading  
all images by default. I have a pretty good anti-spam setup, but  
some things do get through occasionally - downloading all images in  
all emails without asking is an issue I am keen to resolve.


Simon.


- End message from Simon Wilson  -

OK, I'll log a bug seeing as no-one seems to be able to check this... :)


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Re: [imp] No horizontal scroll bar

2012-06-13 Thread Simon Wilson

- Message from ANANT S ATHAVALE  -
   Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:35:32 +0530
   From: ANANT S ATHAVALE 
Subject: Re: [imp] No horizontal scroll bar
 To: imp@lists.horde.org


I don't know why, but a message sent in HTML format is coming as  
'Text' through mailing list.


Regards,
Anant.



Anant - the list forces all messages to text.

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Re: [imp] IMP H5 (6.0.0alpha1)

2012-07-05 Thread Simon Brereton
On Jul 5, 2012 6:47 PM, "Jan Schneider"  wrote:
>
> The Horde Team is pleased to announce the first alpha release of the
Internet
> Mail Program (IMP) version H5 (6.0.0).

Quick question..  Since it's not advised to run on production, is there a
danger (or instructions on how-to) run on the same server in parallel?

i.e. different path, but same imap server, etc

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Re: [imp] IMP H5 (6.0.0alpha1)

2012-07-06 Thread Simon Brereton
On 6 July 2012 10:31, Michael J Rubinsky  wrote:
>
> Quoting Simon Brereton :
>
>> On Jul 5, 2012 6:47 PM, "Jan Schneider"  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> The Horde Team is pleased to announce the first alpha release of the
>>
>> Internet
>>>
>>> Mail Program (IMP) version H5 (6.0.0).
>>
>>
>> Quick question..  Since it's not advised to run on production, is there a
>> danger (or instructions on how-to) run on the same server in parallel?
>>
>> i.e. different path, but same imap server, etc
>
>
> I don't think we have any official documentation for this, though it's not
> really that difficult.
>
> You need to use a dedicated PEAR install (see the INSTALL docs on how to do
> this), and (obviously) a different web root. You should also ensure that you
> review the configuration and be sure that you either use different tmp or
> cache directories to avoid cache/session file collisions between the two
> installs.

In light of all the problems  I've seen on this list of separate PEAR
installs, I might have to wait until I better understand that :)

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[imp] IMP6 v IMP5

2012-07-11 Thread Simon Brereton
Hi

At first glance, this looks very good.  I daresay it will get much
better once the theme CSS is finished.

The first thing I noticed though and don't seem to be able to fix is
in H4/Imp5, I am able to see the Subject, From, Date, To, Open in new
window, View Source and Save options.  In H5/Imp6, I'm not.  I'm sure
it's there, but I can't find it.

Whilst looking for the option to display those items, I noticed that
Imp5 allowed me to specify other headers in the View Messages
preference.  I specified:
X-Spam-Status:
Authentication-Results:
Received-SPF:

However, in neither installation are these lines showing up.  I
presume there's something I didn't do?

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[imp] PHP Errors

2012-07-11 Thread Simon Brereton
Hi

I have these in my horde.log.  Note, one is H4 and one is H5.

2012-07-11T17:19:59+00:00 WARN: HORDE-BETA [imp] PHP ERROR: Missing
argument 1 for Horde_Url::__construct(), called in
/usr/share/horde-beta/imp/lib/Dynamic/Mailbox.php on line 64 and
defined [pid 8604 on line 80 of
"/usr/share/horde-beta/pear/php/Horde/Url.php"]
2012-07-11T17:19:59+00:00 NOTICE: HORDE-BETA [imp] PHP ERROR:
Undefined variable: url [pid 8604 on line 82 of
"/usr/share/horde-beta/pear/php/Horde/Url.php"]
2012-07-11T17:19:59+00:00 NOTICE: HORDE-BETA [imp] PHP ERROR:
Undefined variable: url [pid 8604 on line 91 of
"/usr/share/horde-beta/pear/php/Horde/Url.php"]
2012-07-11T17:19:59+00:00 NOTICE: HORDE-BETA [imp] PHP ERROR:
Undefined variable: url [pid 8604 on line 96 of
"/usr/share/horde-beta/pear/php/Horde/Url.php"]
2012-07-11T17:19:59+00:00 NOTICE: HORDE-BETA [imp] PHP ERROR:
Undefined variable: url [pid 8604 on line 119 of
"/usr/share/horde-beta/pear/php/Horde/Url.php"]
2012-07-11T17:19:59+00:00 NOTICE: HORDE-BETA [imp] PHP ERROR: Trying
to get property of non-object [pid 8690 on line 1443 of
"/usr/share/horde-beta/imp/lib/Mailbox.php"]
2012-07-11T20:49:55+01:00 NOTICE: HORDE4 [imp] PHP ERROR: Undefined
index: password [pid 12886 on line 174 of
"/usr/share/php/Horde/Imap/Client/Base.php"]


A quick google didn't turn anything up.

it's hard to say that's serious since I've not noticed anything not working.


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Re: [imp] IMP6 v IMP5

2012-07-12 Thread Simon Brereton
On 11 July 2012 18:35, Michael J Rubinsky  wrote:
>
> Quoting Simon Brereton :
>
>> Hi
>>
>> At first glance, this looks very good.  I daresay it will get much
>> better once the theme CSS is finished.
>>
>> The first thing I noticed though and don't seem to be able to fix is
>> in H4/Imp5, I am able to see the Subject, From, Date, To, Open in new
>> window, View Source and Save options.  In H5/Imp6, I'm not.  I'm sure
>> it's there, but I can't find it.
>
>
> You have to expand the header section by clicking on the subject line. We
> are in the middle of discussing how to indicate this better.

Okay, that works.

>> Whilst looking for the option to display those items, I noticed that
>> Imp5 allowed me to specify other headers in the View Messages
>> preference.  I specified:
>> X-Spam-Status:
>> Authentication-Results:
>> Received-SPF:
>>
>> However, in neither installation are these lines showing up.  I
>> presume there's something I didn't do?
>
>
> They are shown when viewing the full message, not in the message preview.

I wasn't looking for it in the message preview.  I was looking for it
in the reading pane.  Either underneath the From:, Date:, To:

I tried to open the mail in a new window to see if that showed it, but
all I got was a white page.  I presume that's not right either?

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Re: [imp] IMP H5 (6.0.0alpha1)

2012-07-12 Thread Simon Brereton
On Jul 12, 2012 3:18 PM, "Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz" <
jose-marcio.mart...@ensmp.fr> wrote:
>
> francis picabia wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Simon Brereton
>>   wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> In light of all the problems  I've seen on this list of separate PEAR
>>> installs, I might have to wait until I better understand that :)
>>>
>>
>> I liked the way it was done in the past with tarballs.  You can get the
same
>> effect by moving your installation to a new path and making that
>> the document root in apache.  I don't think the full path to the
installation
>> is stored anywhere, although I could be wrong.
>
>
> This is one of the main reasons we're moving away from horde/imp.

I'm not sure I understand your rationale.. A separate pear install is a
very specialised use-case and for the large majority of users simplifies
the process.  And as others have repeatedly said, pear packages ARE
tarballs, just ones you install with a pear command rather than tar.

If you don't like it, use git?

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Re: [imp] IMP6 v IMP5

2012-07-12 Thread Simon Brereton
On 12 July 2012 15:27, Jan Schneider  wrote:
>
> Zitat von Simon Brereton :
>
>> On 11 July 2012 18:35, Michael J Rubinsky  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Simon Brereton :
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> At first glance, this looks very good.  I daresay it will get much
>>>> better once the theme CSS is finished.
>>>>
>>>> The first thing I noticed though and don't seem to be able to fix is
>>>> in H4/Imp5, I am able to see the Subject, From, Date, To, Open in new
>>>> window, View Source and Save options.  In H5/Imp6, I'm not.  I'm sure
>>>> it's there, but I can't find it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You have to expand the header section by clicking on the subject line. We
>>> are in the middle of discussing how to indicate this better.
>>
>>
>> Okay, that works.
>>
>>>> Whilst looking for the option to display those items, I noticed that
>>>> Imp5 allowed me to specify other headers in the View Messages
>>>> preference.  I specified:
>>>> X-Spam-Status:
>>>> Authentication-Results:
>>>> Received-SPF:
>>>>
>>>> However, in neither installation are these lines showing up.  I
>>>> presume there's something I didn't do?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> They are shown when viewing the full message, not in the message preview.
>>
>>
>> I wasn't looking for it in the message preview.  I was looking for it
>> in the reading pane.  Either underneath the From:, Date:, To:
>
>
> This *is* the message preview.
How can it be a preview, it's the whole message.  That's like watching
Lord of Rings and saying it's a trailer.
I think the purpose of calling out these headers should be to include
them in the "preview".  At the moment it would be quicker and easier
for me to see them by clicking on view source than opening in a new
window..

>> I tried to open the mail in a new window to see if that showed it, but
>> all I got was a white page.  I presume that's not right either?
>
>
> Fixed already in Git.

I never use this open in new window.  And I've just noticed the same
problem in H4/Imp5..

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Re: [imp] Compose focus, Auto-select message, and Sending hotkey

2012-07-19 Thread Simon Brereton
On 19 July 2012 10:31, Jan Schneider  wrote:
>
> Zitat von Barton Hodges :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am running Horde Groupware Webmail Edition 4.0.8, imp version 5.0.22,
>> and
>> with Dynamic View enabled.
>>
>> There are three items that I'd like to fix, and need a little assistance.
>>
>> 1. When I click New Message to compose a new message, a new window
>> appears,
>> and the editor grabs focus, never to be released again through keyboard
>> presses.  Pressing TAB does not work.  Ideally, unless I was replying to a
>> message, the focus should be in the empty "To" field so that it can be
>> filled out first.  How can I fix this?
>
>
> You are probably using HTML editor by default? The editor is a 3rd-party
> component, not ours, there isn't much we can do about this.
>
>> 2. When I click on the Inbox, I would like for the top-most message to be
>> selected automatically, so that "No Messages selected" doesn't appear.
>>  Instead, the selected message will appear.

Actually, this would be standard client behaviour - at least for all
the clients I've ever used.

I wonder also if the OP is using the vertical layout - because it's
much more of a bugbear there than it is in the vertical one.

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Re: [imp] Compose focus, Auto-select message, and Sending hotkey

2012-07-19 Thread Simon Brereton
On 19 July 2012 11:04, Michael Wing  wrote:
>> >> 2. When I click on the Inbox, I would like for the top-most message to
>> >> be
>> >> selected automatically, so that "No Messages selected" doesn't appear.
>> >>  Instead, the selected message will appear.
>>
>> Actually, this would be standard client behaviour - at least for all
>> the clients I've ever used.
>>
>> I wonder also if the OP is using the vertical layout - because it's
>> much more of a bugbear there than it is in the vertical one.
>>
>
> Yes, I am using the vertical layout.  This hack seems to do what I want:
>
> Replace this line:
>
> return this.go('mbox', li.retrieve('mbox'));
>
> with this:
>
> this.go('mbox', li.retrieve('mbox'));
> this.moveSelected(1, true);
> return;
>
> In the file imp/js/dimpbase.js

Could you do it as a patch file?

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Re: [imp] Compose focus, Auto-select message, and Sending hotkey

2012-07-19 Thread Simon Brereton
On Jul 19, 2012 12:48 PM, "Michael Wing" 
wrote:
>
> >
> > 2. When I click on the Inbox, I would like for the top-most message to
be
> >> selected automatically, so that "No Messages selected" doesn't appear.
> >>  Instead, the selected message will appear.
> >>
> >
> > That's a very specific request and nothing that we would accept
upstream,
> > you need to hack this into your installation.
> >
> >
> >
> The attached patch does what I need.   However, it seems to me that the
> real fix would be for imp to remember the selected message when switching
> between views.  So that I can click into Drafts, then back into Inbox and
> the previously selected Inbox message would be once again selected.  This
> is also the way most (if not all) desktop MUAs work.  What do you think?

This is how Outlook and Evolution work.  Don't know about Thunderbird.

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Re: [imp] error message on client side

2012-07-19 Thread Simon Brereton
On 19 July 2012 14:17,   wrote:
> I am not the administrator nor did I install any of the software for a friend 
> of mine. However, he is asking why he is getting thousands of error messages 
> stating something to the effect that he has exceeded his concurrent email 
> attempts. His web site is http://liglazing.com/index.php and his email is 
> d...@liglazing.com. There are two emails associated with this site and they 
> both get the same errors. It is preventing him from being able to email 
> anyone. Any thoughts on which end this is happening (client or server) or why?

Without more information, it sounds like the server is compromised and
sending out spam and the built-in controls of the MTA are letting you
know that too many emails are being sent out.

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Re: [imp] IMP Administration

2012-07-23 Thread Simon Brereton
On 23 July 2012 14:09, David Goldfield  wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I have just recently started doing some IT work for SOSB.com and we are
> running IMP in house. Can someone point me in the right direction for basic
> administration of the application? We need to add and remove email
> accounts, server maintenance, etc.

User management depends on your backend.  Server maintenance depends
on your current configuration and load.  If it isn't straining, don't
"fix" it.

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Re: [imp] IMP Administration

2012-07-23 Thread Simon Brereton
On 23 July 2012 14:22, David Goldfield  wrote:
> Hi Simon,
>
> Thanks for your prompt reply. Is there a web interface to administer the IMP
> application?
>
> If so, what is the default URL?
>
> Does IMP use the root account on the server?


Please keep replies on-list (i.e. reply all) and please don't top-post.

There is an administration section.  You will only have access to this
if you log in as the administrator or have administration rights
attached to your user.  I don't have the URL handy (and it will in
part depend on how the server was setup - so the easiest way to access
it is from the side-bar menu.  But as I say, you'll only see that
option if you're an administrator.

IMP should not run as root - it's a web application.  The webserver
user (www-data on my system) should be sufficient.  Since Horde/IMP is
simply a web interface to real componenets (MTA, MDA, etc) perhaps you
should scrap the current install and start again?

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Re: [imp] Syncing contacts and calendar with Exchange?

2012-08-01 Thread Simon Brereton
On 1 August 2012 10:57, Michael Wing  wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Simon Brereton 
> wrote:
>>
>> Depends on your Horde version.  Version 4 supports activesync, so if you
>> keep that as your main repository then you should be able to sync with
>> Exchange..
>>
>>
>
> I am using version 4.  From my rudimentary understanding, doesn't Activesync
> only allow a client to sync with Horde?  What I'm looking for is a way to
> sync Horde directly with Exchange without a middle-man, so to speak.

Perhaps if you explain a bit more about what you're trying to do?  Do
you own/control the Exchange server in question?

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Re: [imp] Autocomplete auto-select when composing?

2012-08-01 Thread Simon Wilson

- Message from Michael M Slusarz  -
   Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 23:55:03 -0600
   From: Michael M Slusarz 
Subject: Re: [imp] Autocomplete auto-select when composing?
 To: imp@lists.horde.org



Quoting Michael Wing :


When composing a message, after typing a few characters into the "To"
field, the autocomplete brings up a dropdown list of matching addresses.
Is there any way to make it so that the address is actually populated IN
the To field?  For instance, if there is only one matching address,
currently I still have to hit Tab, or the down-arrow to select that
address.


That is correct.


Ideally, that one single address would be automatically populated
in the To field.


This is a terrible idea.  Just because there is one entry, doesn't  
mean that this is the *correct* entry.  That is a dangerous, and  
incorrect, assumption.


Particularly given the current bug where Imp matches email addresses  
to contacts with multiple emails, but only returns the first email  
address as an auto-complete match.




This is a very common scenario:

1. Enter a few characters.
2. Auto-complete comes up with 1 entry, but it is the wrong entry.
3. User realizes that maybe he doesn't have address of user he wants  
to send to, so he wants to cancel auto-correct.

4. Incorrect auto-correct entry is populated in address box.

It is correct UI to require the user to verify that the address is  
proper/correct.  An address should NEVER be automatically inserted  
into the address field without user verification.


michael



...which, BTW, is what Outlook does - when entering text it offers  
matches, but you have to physically select it (with either mouse or by  
hitting Enter) for that suggestion to be accepted.


Current Imp behaviour is just fine...

Simon


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Re: [imp] Irritating remember-selection-feature in IMP 6

2012-08-31 Thread Simon Brereton
On Aug 31, 2012 7:32 AM, "Jan Schneider"  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> is this only me, or this new feature that remembers the selection state
of a mailbox rather irritating than helpful? I may be completely off,
that's why I'm asking here, where potentially more end user feedback is
expected than on the development list.
>
> I don't recall such behavior from any other application that I use.
Granted, I don't use many desktop applications anymore, but still.
>
> If I go to another mailbox, I'm done with the current mailbox, and vice
versa, so I rather expect the first mailbox in a clean state when I return
from the second mailbox. This expectation might be different if we had
mailboxes opened in tabs, which we don't.
>
> Though this could be considered a bug that needs fixing, I find it
especially annoying in a common use case of mine: when I start reading
through my daily mail, going through all the folders that my mail is sorted
into, I sometimes open a mail that's too long to be read right now. Then I
reset the seen flag before I go to another folder. If I go back, that
message is now still selected, marking it as seen again.
>
> Again, this could be just my personal preference, and others might
welcome this new feature, so I'm looking for some feedback.

I couldn't agree more.  Gmail does this sometimes, and it's as annoying as
hell.

Frankly I'd prefer the Outlook behaviour -
- the option to never automatically mark messages as seen
- when you return, the message is selected (and if you have a preview pane,
in the the pane).

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Re: [imp] Irritating remember-selection-feature in IMP 6

2012-08-31 Thread Simon Brereton
On Aug 31, 2012 10:52 AM, "Scott Dellinger"  wrote:
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2012, at 9:46 AM, Simon Brereton 
wrote:
>
> > Frankly I'd prefer the Outlook behaviour -
> > - the option to never automatically mark messages as seen
> > - when you return, the message is selected (and if you have a preview
pane,
> > in the the pane).
>
>
> Apple Mail also remembers selected messages from each mailbox; I imagine
it fits into trying to be intuitive by displaying things in the state you
left them in.  I find the behavior undesirable for two reasons: unless I
have literally just switched from and returned to a mailbox, I'm not likely
to remember why certain messages are selected and it starts to feel like
random client behavior rather than something intentional or intuitive, and
I do the same thing Jan complained about in leaving undealt-with messages
marked unread on purpose, which this behavior messes with.
>
> Settings to toggle this might be good, either globally or per-mailbox.
 For some users, I could see this behavior being useful for, say, the inbox
but not elsewhere.

Actually, when not doing server admin, I find sub-folders incredibly
useful.  Consider a contract negotiation from last year - a question
arises, you search and find the relevant message and respond.  A few days
later after a long weekend, you receive a follow-up query.  This time you
don't need to search, it's highlighted.

Of course this "feature" is more useful to some users than others.

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Re: [imp] Questions about Horde Email

2012-10-07 Thread Simon Brereton
On Oct 7, 2012 10:12 PM,  wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
> I am a new subscriber to this list.
>
> I have several Horde Email problems.
>
> 1. I am having problems receiving emails with large attachments. When I
go over a limit, the incoming email shows as blank or will not open. On my
server the maximum size allowed is 100Mb. But Horde won't allow over about
2Mb. How do I increase the size allowed, other than on my server?

Horde/imp, uses php - you, or the webserver admin needs to increase the
memory limit assigned to php.  Google for this

> 2. When I try to open an email in Firefox or Safari, most of the time the
email won't open in a new web page. A dialog box comes up that says:
>
> "The connection was reset. The connection to the server was reset while
the page was loading. The site could be temporarily unavailable or too
busy. Try again in a few moments.
> If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network
connection.
> If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make
sure that Firefox is permitted to access the Web."

Sounds related to the above issue..

> I keep trying but same result. I found a temporary solution by checking
the small box next to the message I want to open and then clicking on "view
messages". However this method allows you to see an read the message but
does not allow you to reply to it.
> Is this a Firefox/Safari or a Horde problem?
>
> 3. If an unopened message is left for over 30 minutes and then I try to
open it, a text message says it can't open it because it has been over 30
minutes (or something similar). Why is this? Can this be changed anywhere?

Session cookies.  If you have access to the Horde administration console,
it's in there - but it's a security feature.  I highly recommend leaving it
as it is.

> 4. I delete spam and unwanted emails on my desktop computer, which are
then trashed permanently, not put in a trash file. However, later when I
view my emails on my iPhone, all the trashed emails are still there. Why is
that?

IMAP does not "delete" emails.  It marks then for deletion until you purge
then later.  Most clients have a setting to hide emails marked for
deletion.  I don't have an iPhone so I can't tell you where this is.

> 5. I have an extensive blacklist, but it doesn't seem to work very well.
Maybe I am entering it wrong. For example, if I want to block 100% of
messages from a website, I have been entering "@advertize-biz.cn" or "@
jbklz.com" as examples. Is this correct? Or should I leave the @ sign out?
or should it be "*@advertize-biz.cn", I haven't been able to find anything
about this online.

I hope someone can help you with this.  But email from addresses are easily
spoofed, and black-listing by email address is almost worthless as a tactic.

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