Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash
When you open that file (or any file) located in the 'administrato' users' documents, are you logged in as the 'Barry' user? If so, THAT is why you do not have permission to save. Before we go any further, let's clear up that one question. Regards, Adrien On 8/26/23 11:01 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote: I'd say you are almost certainly right, Adrian, but. There I was, sailing along at my usual boring, routine, data entry to gnucash, as I have done since 2019. On entering a transaction I got the message I have copied several times, that I don't have rights or space to save the transaction, never saw it before. Put a question on here and a long series of q&a ensued. I just needed a simple a - what is the meaning of the message? can I 'go back' to eliminate it? can I delete the entry? can I close down gnucash and restart with a new transaction, etc. Things like you have two users on the same files, was news to me. As time went by and the q&a got more complicated I lost the sequence of where we were, plus issues with trying to send page images. Finally, I found myself with a 2022 gnucash file, and nothing else, in my administrato folder. BUT, whenever I tried to save that file, just so I could get on with my accounts, I got the same 'you need rights' message. A long way around, but no solution. The help and advice I have had is terrific, but increasingly confusing. I wouldn't say I am an expert in accounting, I have a long history in IT, but not specifically in GNU. The one thing that has created the confusion for me is the bewildering array of files associated with my, in my mind, simple, accounting needs. I was not, and still am not familiar with the numerous files on the same date and time, what is the difference between 'backups' 'logs' and the last file I was working on. I appreciate the need to have security in an accounting software, but not the range of files. Longwinded? yes. Can I recover my situation in time for my tax return date of mid November? I think I should delete everything and reload gnucash anew, create 2022 and 2023 from my paper files and send the result for 2022 to the taxman, (or woman in these liberated days)?? For those who get long strings of posts on the same topic, sorry for boring you. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Ajuda na Tradução da Documentação para Português Brasil
Marcondes, Há uma lista de usuários brasileiros que pode ser mais útil para você: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-br "There is a Brazilian user list that might be more useful to you." "--Translated with DuckDuckGo" Regards, Adrien On 8/26/23 6:46 PM, Marcondes Araújo wrote: Prezados, boa noite! Me disponibilizo em ajudar na tradução da pt-BR. Percebi que está em pt-PT. Atenciosamente, Marcondes ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash
Sorry for any ignorance, but logged in to what or where? I get a splash screen with Mahon Finbar (my 'official,as on cheques) name on my (Lenovo) PC and a password. Barry On 27/08/2023 11:08, Adrien Monteleone wrote: When you open that file (or any file) located in the 'administrato' users' documents, are you logged in as the 'Barry' user? If so, THAT is why you do not have permission to save. Before we go any further, let's clear up that one question. Regards, Adrien On 8/26/23 11:01 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote: I'd say you are almost certainly right, Adrian, but. There I was, sailing along at my usual boring, routine, data entry to gnucash, as I have done since 2019. On entering a transaction I got the message I have copied several times, that I don't have rights or space to save the transaction, never saw it before. Put a question on here and a long series of q&a ensued. I just needed a simple a - what is the meaning of the message? can I 'go back' to eliminate it? can I delete the entry? can I close down gnucash and restart with a new transaction, etc. Things like you have two users on the same files, was news to me. As time went by and the q&a got more complicated I lost the sequence of where we were, plus issues with trying to send page images. Finally, I found myself with a 2022 gnucash file, and nothing else, in my administrato folder. BUT, whenever I tried to save that file, just so I could get on with my accounts, I got the same 'you need rights' message. A long way around, but no solution. The help and advice I have had is terrific, but increasingly confusing. I wouldn't say I am an expert in accounting, I have a long history in IT, but not specifically in GNU. The one thing that has created the confusion for me is the bewildering array of files associated with my, in my mind, simple, accounting needs. I was not, and still am not familiar with the numerous files on the same date and time, what is the difference between 'backups' 'logs' and the last file I was working on. I appreciate the need to have security in an accounting software, but not the range of files. Longwinded? yes. Can I recover my situation in time for my tax return date of mid November? I think I should delete everything and reload gnucash anew, create 2022 and 2023 from my paper files and send the result for 2022 to the taxman, (or woman in these liberated days)?? For those who get long strings of posts on the same topic, sorry for boring you. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash
Yes, you may be correct, seems likely, but, I was in the middle of a session on gnucash and had entered quite a number of transactions before the message appeared, which led to my OP. I may have had finger problems, but, as I said the number of GNU files makes it difficult to focus in. Thanks for the advice, Barry On 27/08/2023 00:57, R Losey wrote: The "You don't have rights" message usually means that either the file or folder does not have the permissions you'll need (I assume you know whether or not you're out of space, and that you are not out of space). This error is common when one user is trying to write files to a different user's directory -- most operating systems try to prevent this, and your answers to the questions people asked indicate that you ran GnuCash as two different users. One user may have read access to the files, but not write access. In that way, you'd go along merrily until the Auto-save kicked in and then you'd see that error. You can check the rights on a file (or folder) by right-clicking on it and selecting "Properties" and then looking at the permissions tab. (note: I'm not at a windows computer, so I'm going by memory, and I may be incorrect). It was your answers to questions that started all the Q&A - based on your posts, it appeared that you were opening backup files instead of the main file. I also assume that you are using GnuCash more-or-less as it came (that is, you did change it to save to a database - you are still saving to a file named ".gnucash". On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 11:02 AM Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote: I'd say you are almost certainly right, Adrian, but. There I was, sailing along at my usual boring, routine, data entry to gnucash, as I have done since 2019. On entering a transaction I got the message I have copied several times, that I don't have rights or space to save the transaction, never saw it before. Put a question on here and a long series of q&a ensued. I just needed a simple a - what is the meaning of the message? can I 'go back' to eliminate it? can I delete the entry? can I close down gnucash and restart with a new transaction, etc. Things like you have two users on the same files, was news to me. As time went by and the q&a got more complicated I lost the sequence of where we were, plus issues with trying to send page images. Finally, I found myself with a 2022 gnucash file, and nothing else, in my administrato folder. BUT, whenever I tried to save that file, just so I could get on with my accounts, I got the same 'you need rights' message. A long way around, but no solution. The help and advice I have had is terrific, but increasingly confusing. I wouldn't say I am an expert in accounting, I have a long history in IT, but not specifically in GNU. The one thing that has created the confusion for me is the bewildering array of files associated with my, in my mind, simple, accounting needs. I was not, and still am not familiar with the numerous files on the same date and time, what is the difference between 'backups' 'logs' and the last file I was working on. I appreciate the need to have security in an accounting software, but not the range of files. Longwinded? yes. Can I recover my situation in time for my tax return date of mid November? I think I should delete everything and reload gnucash anew, create 2022 and 2023 from my paper files and send the result for 2022 to the taxman, (or woman in these liberated days)?? For those who get long strings of posts on the same topic, sorry for boring you. Barry On 26/08/2023 09:03, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > Dimes to Dollars the permissions issue was that Barry was accessing > the file as one user (Barry Mahon) but it was saved in the tree of > another. (administrato) > > Regards, > Adrien > > On 8/25/23 6:30 PM, Maf. King wrote: >> I've just had a thought on a possible reason the original file could >> not be >> saved. I may be barking up the wrong tree. >> >> Does Win have a maximum length for a filename? >> >> If Barry (OP) has been repeatedly opening and working on backups and >> backups >> of backups etc.., is it possible that repeated time-stamps have hit >> some sort >> of string-length limit (either in Win, GC, Gnome-libs or whatever >> layer)?? >> >> Last time I was actively using MS for anything regularly, the >> filename length >> limit was 8+3 ... so I'll defer to pretty much anyone's opinion on this! > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.or
Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
Yes, I am aware of that, but, for reasons I don't know, I have been unable to a) select a list of GNU files and then rename them and b) copy and paste as an alternative. Thanks for the info, Barry On 26/08/2023 23:26, Carsten Hütter wrote: Hi Barry! In this newsgroup, screenshots need to be sent as attachements. Pasting an in line picture doesn't show anything, it's filtered out. HTH Carsten Am 25.08.23 um 10:58 schrieb Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user: Thanks to all. On the issue of rights, I have never had any issues before this saga, so should I assume I have had 'rights' to save documents under administrato?? When you say 'truncated' does that mean you cannot see the CaptureWiz images?? I have had issues all along with Gnucash needing specific file types to display files for messages, does that apply to gnucash-user?? For reasons I don't understand I have never been able to copy files from Gnu in my MS Windows10 to the 'required' format, for queries about Gnucash!! Quite frustrating. Finbar On 24/08/2023 21:01, David Carlson wrote: [...] ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash
Good advice, I never run as administrator, at least not knowingly. I am on an island off the South West coast of Ireland, at this moment. I will move on to my residence in France next week, I use this site as my 'best option' for GNU, and so far, until this fiasco, it has served me well. Libraries are thin on the ground here ;). I am working to locate gnucash files from dates previous to the problem from my backup, Backupblaze, to locate something that may work without the message. Thank you for the advice, Barry On 26/08/2023 21:14, David Carlson wrote: Barry, If you do not have a family member or friend that knows a lot about permission issuess in Windows, go to your local library and ask them to find someone to help you. Ununstalling Gnucash amd startimg over will not help. You will evrntually end up in the same pile of manure. Never ever "run as administrator" unless you know exactly why you need to. That is my answer. On Sat, Aug 26, 2023, 11:02 AM Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote: I'd say you are almost certainly right, Adrian, but. There I was, sailing along at my usual boring, routine, data entry to gnucash, as I have done since 2019. On entering a transaction I got the message I have copied several times, that I don't have rights or space to save the transaction, never saw it before. Put a question on here and a long series of q&a ensued. I just needed a simple a - what is the meaning of the message? can I 'go back' to eliminate it? can I delete the entry? can I close down gnucash and restart with a new transaction, etc. Things like you have two users on the same files, was news to me. As time went by and the q&a got more complicated I lost the sequence of where we were, plus issues with trying to send page images. Finally, I found myself with a 2022 gnucash file, and nothing else, in my administrato folder. BUT, whenever I tried to save that file, just so I could get on with my accounts, I got the same 'you need rights' message. A long way around, but no solution. The help and advice I have had is terrific, but increasingly confusing. I wouldn't say I am an expert in accounting, I have a long history in IT, but not specifically in GNU. The one thing that has created the confusion for me is the bewildering array of files associated with my, in my mind, simple, accounting needs. I was not, and still am not familiar with the numerous files on the same date and time, what is the difference between 'backups' 'logs' and the last file I was working on. I appreciate the need to have security in an accounting software, but not the range of files. Longwinded? yes. Can I recover my situation in time for my tax return date of mid November? I think I should delete everything and reload gnucash anew, create 2022 and 2023 from my paper files and send the result for 2022 to the taxman, (or woman in these liberated days)?? For those who get long strings of posts on the same topic, sorry for boring you. Barry On 26/08/2023 09:03, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > Dimes to Dollars the permissions issue was that Barry was accessing > the file as one user (Barry Mahon) but it was saved in the tree of > another. (administrato) > > Regards, > Adrien > > On 8/25/23 6:30 PM, Maf. King wrote: >> I've just had a thought on a possible reason the original file could >> not be >> saved. I may be barking up the wrong tree. >> >> Does Win have a maximum length for a filename? >> >> If Barry (OP) has been repeatedly opening and working on backups and >> backups >> of backups etc.., is it possible that repeated time-stamps have hit >> some sort >> of string-length limit (either in Win, GC, Gnome-libs or whatever >> layer)?? >> >> Last time I was actively using MS for anything regularly, the >> filename length >> limit was 8+3 ... so I'll defer to pretty much anyone's opinion on this! > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing
Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash
OK, latest, just yesterday, Backblaze producedtwo files in .zip, I think I have a jpg. Is it visible? This tax accounts and returns was 'deleted' a long time ago, but was obviously 'alive' in 2023.? Is this where the problem originated?? Is there any solution from here? Barry On 27/08/2023 12:58, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote: Good advice, I never run as administrator, at least not knowingly. I am on an island off the South West coast of Ireland, at this moment. I will move on to my residence in France next week, I use this site as my 'best option' for GNU, and so far, until this fiasco, it has served me well. Libraries are thin on the ground here ;). I am working to locate gnucash files from dates previous to the problem from my backup, Backupblaze, to locate something that may work without the message. Thank you for the advice, Barry On 26/08/2023 21:14, David Carlson wrote: Barry, If you do not have a family member or friend that knows a lot about permission issuess in Windows, go to your local library and ask them to find someone to help you. Ununstalling Gnucash amd startimg over will not help. You will evrntually end up in the same pile of manure. Never ever "run as administrator" unless you know exactly why you need to. That is my answer. On Sat, Aug 26, 2023, 11:02 AM Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote: I'd say you are almost certainly right, Adrian, but. There I was, sailing along at my usual boring, routine, data entry to gnucash, as I have done since 2019. On entering a transaction I got the message I have copied several times, that I don't have rights or space to save the transaction, never saw it before. Put a question on here and a long series of q&a ensued. I just needed a simple a - what is the meaning of the message? can I 'go back' to eliminate it? can I delete the entry? can I close down gnucash and restart with a new transaction, etc. Things like you have two users on the same files, was news to me. As time went by and the q&a got more complicated I lost the sequence of where we were, plus issues with trying to send page images. Finally, I found myself with a 2022 gnucash file, and nothing else, in my administrato folder. BUT, whenever I tried to save that file, just so I could get on with my accounts, I got the same 'you need rights' message. A long way around, but no solution. The help and advice I have had is terrific, but increasingly confusing. I wouldn't say I am an expert in accounting, I have a long history in IT, but not specifically in GNU. The one thing that has created the confusion for me is the bewildering array of files associated with my, in my mind, simple, accounting needs. I was not, and still am not familiar with the numerous files on the same date and time, what is the difference between 'backups' 'logs' and the last file I was working on. I appreciate the need to have security in an accounting software, but not the range of files. Longwinded? yes. Can I recover my situation in time for my tax return date of mid November? I think I should delete everything and reload gnucash anew, create 2022 and 2023 from my paper files and send the result for 2022 to the taxman, (or woman in these liberated days)?? For those who get long strings of posts on the same topic, sorry for boring you. Barry On 26/08/2023 09:03, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > Dimes to Dollars the permissions issue was that Barry was accessing > the file as one user (Barry Mahon) but it was saved in the tree of > another. (administrato) > > Regards, > Adrien > > On 8/25/23 6:30 PM, Maf. King wrote: >> I've just had a thought on a possible reason the original file could >> not be >> saved. I may be barking up the wrong tree. >> >> Does Win have a maximum length for a filename? >> >> If Barry (OP) has been repeatedly opening and working on backups and >> backups >> of backups etc.., is it possible that repeated time-stamps have hit >> some sort >> of string-length limit (either in Win, GC, Gnome-libs or whatever >> layer)?? >> >> Last time I was actively using MS for anything regularly, the >> filename length >> limit was 8+3 ... so I'll defer to pretty much anyone's opinion on this! > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user m
Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash
Barry, once again, you must ATTACH the image to your reply. You CANNOT copy & paste it into the text. The mailing list software only allows ATTACHMENTS. Regards, Adrien On 8/27/23 6:45 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote: OK, latest, just yesterday, Backblaze producedtwo files in .zip, I think I have a jpg. Is it visible? This tax accounts and returns was 'deleted' a long time ago, but was obviously 'alive' in 2023.? Is this where the problem originated?? Is there any solution from here? ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash
On 8/27/23 5:41 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote: Sorry for any ignorance, but logged in to what or where? When you log into Windows on your computer. From what you've provided so far, you have 2 users on that computer: 1. 'administrato' 2. 'Barry Mahon' You've indicated that at least one of your GnuCash files you tried to use was saved in the Documents folder of the 'administrato' user. I get a splash screen with Mahon Finbar (my 'official,as on cheques) name on my (Lenovo) PC and a password. If you are logging into your computer as 'Barry Mahon' (you may have used your formal name for the login screen at some point) and you are trying to work in a file saved under the 'administrato' user, then THAT is why you do not have save permissions. The 'Barry Mahon' user does not 'own' that file. The 'administrato' user does. Here is your solution so far: Step 1 -- You need to move all of those files under the 'administrato' user folders to the 'Barry Mahon' user folders Step 2 -- Make sure you've also set the 'Barry Mahon' user to be the 'owner' of all of those files. (that is where the 'Windows permissions' advice from others comes in) Once you do that, you will not get the save error message. Step 3 -- Then you need to clean up the multiple file problem. And by 'file' I mean GnuCash data files only. They end in ".gnucash". Forget the other files for now. Can this cleanup be done rather quickly? Possibly. That is up to you. We can help, but you really need to figure out how to ATTACH (not copy/paste) screenshots to your list replies here so we can see what you are working with. Regards, Adrien ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
You do not need to do anything with the gnucash files to send a screenshot. We DO NOT need you to send the actual gnucash files. You can't copy/paste images here. They are removed. You have to ATTACH the screenshots. What mail application are you using to access this list? Regards, Adrien On 8/27/23 5:50 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote: Yes, I am aware of that, but, for reasons I don't know, I have been unable to a) select a list of GNU files and then rename them and b) copy and paste as an alternative. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash
On 8/27/2023 6:47 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote: I may have had finger problems, but, as I said the number of GNU files makes it difficult to focus in. Thanks for the advice, Barry Barry, You seem to have a number of problems, so let's address them separately. "The number of GNU files" seems to be one problem making it hard for you to find your data file (your books) which itself became a problem only because you did not choose a name for this file in the first place. But let's just address the "number of files" (the plethora of "backup" and "log" files created in pairs each time you do a save. How many are retained is YOUR choice. You do not have a multitude of these files except that you chose to keep a multitude. New users should always investigate the choices available to them instead of just diving in with a new app. Yes I understand, you are not new in the sense that you have been using gnucash for a while. But please do go back and look at the retention choices for "log" and "backup" (that's "in the current session" and should NOT be understood in the context of your normal backup of user data). I believe you will find you had choices to limit how many, either by number of versions or age (date). When I say "you had a choice" you need to remember that not choosing, accepting the default of "keep all forever" is a choice. There also seems to be a problem more general than gnucash with regard to what a "user" is on computers. As far as the computer is concerned, you as "administrator" and you as "Barry" (or whatever name you chose as an ordinary user log in) as NOT the same human. As far as the computer is concerned, different people. That's natural since all modern computer OSs allow multiple people to use a single computer. If you have been using gnucash as two separate people (as far as the computer is concerned) you can expect to have problems finding "your" data (in which user's data area is it) Michael D Novack ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash
On 8/27/2023 8:48 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: On 8/27/23 5:41 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote: Sorry for any ignorance, but logged in to what or where? When you log into Windows on your computer. From what you've provided so far, you have 2 users on that computer: 1. 'administrato' 2. 'Barry Mahon' You've indicated that at least one of your GnuCash files you tried to use was saved in the Documents folder of the 'administrato' user. I think Barry might need more a) While you are logged in as "Barry" and "Barry" is an ordinary user you might be able to READ a file in the user "Administrator" data area but you will not have permission to write to if. b) While you are logged in as "administrator" (a super user) you would be able to both read and write to any file on the computer regardless of what user's data area it is in. THAT is what your "administrator" log in is for. You should NOT be logged in as administrator unless you need that "super power" c) With a little time and patience we mat be able to help you untangle the mess you are in. But unless you are able to break the habit of doing ordinary work while logged in as administrator, might recur. You also need to learn to give meaningful names to your data files (so you can find them, distinguish from files with similar names), put into a defined location (directory aka "file folder") and if troublesome to you, control the number of "backup" and:"log files" retained. NOTE --- (going to put on my old senior analyst hat for a moment) .. Barry, is there any chance that you once had your "Barry" log in specified to have "administrator rights" and you recently, quite properly, respecified "Barry" to be just an ordinary user? And then all of a sudden, logged in as "Barry" could no longer save? Because if you originally created you gnucash books while logged in as "administrator" but found that all worked fine while logged in as "Barry" (but "Barry" ALSO had administrator rights) Because in that case, what you are experiencing is exactly what I would expect to happen. Administrator rights are like a superpower, can access any user's data. Michael D Novack ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash
Barry, When you are either sending a message or replying to a message in Gmail, there is a series of icons at the bottom next to the blue Send icon. The second one resembles a paper clip. To "attach" a file to your message click on the paper clip, then navigate to the folder containing the file that you want to attach and click on that file or those files. Note that if you hover over the paper clip icon it will say "Attach filles" That is the only way to make a file go all the way to the gnucash-user@gnucash.org maillist where others can see it. -- David Carlson ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Ajuda na Tradução da Documentação para Português Brasil
Marcondes, While Adrien is correct that there's a Brazilian mailing list, no-one in the development team reads or writes Portuguese so this is the right place to offer to translate. Please use English here. We'd be glad to have a Brazilian Portuguese translation of the documentation, but you need to know that it's quite a bit of work and there are some technical aspects that can be challenging: The documents are formatted using Docbook, an XML dialect, and you must use git and Github pull requests to submit your translation. Please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Documentation_Translation for detailed information. Regards, John Ralls > On Aug 27, 2023, at 02:13, Adrien Monteleone > wrote: > > Marcondes, > > Há uma lista de usuários brasileiros que pode ser mais útil para você: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-br > > "There is a Brazilian user list that might be more useful to you." > > "--Translated with DuckDuckGo" > > Regards, > Adrien > > On 8/26/23 6:46 PM, Marcondes Araújo wrote: >> Prezados, boa noite! >> Me disponibilizo em ajudar na tradução da pt-BR. Percebi que está em pt-PT. >> Atenciosamente, >> Marcondes > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash
David, Since not everyone on this list uses the same email client as you you may need to find out which client program Barry uses. I use the default email client on my iPad and have no ‘blue send button’ to push. Ken Schneider > On Aug 27, 2023, at 11:59 AM, David Carlson > wrote: > > Barry, > > When you are either sending a message or replying to a message in Gmail, > there is a series of icons at the bottom next to the blue Send icon. The > second one resembles a paper clip. To "attach" a file to your message > click on the paper clip, then navigate to the folder containing the file > that you want to attach and click on that file or those files. Note that > if you hover over the paper clip icon it will say "Attach filles" That is > the only way to make a file go all the way to the gnucash-user@gnucash.org > maillist where others can see it. > > > -- > David Carlson > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash
Ken, I checked one of Barry's messages and found that it was fent from a gmail server, so I assumed that he is using Gmail. On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 12:00 PM kschneider bout-tyme.net < kschnei...@bout-tyme.net> wrote: > David, > Since not everyone on this list uses the same email client as you you may > need to find out which client program Barry uses. I use the default email > client on my iPad and have no ‘blue send button’ to push. > > Ken Schneider > > > On Aug 27, 2023, at 11:59 AM, David Carlson > wrote: > > > > Barry, > > > > When you are either sending a message or replying to a message in Gmail, > > there is a series of icons at the bottom next to the blue Send icon. The > > second one resembles a paper clip. To "attach" a file to your message > > click on the paper clip, then navigate to the folder containing the file > > that you want to attach and click on that file or those files. Note that > > if you hover over the paper clip icon it will say "Attach filles" That > is > > the only way to make a file go all the way to the > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > maillist where others can see it. > > > > > > -- > > David Carlson > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- David Carlson ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
Barry, I have never used CaptureWiz but my screen capture utility saves images as "screenshot from(dateandtime).png". That format would work here. On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 12:55 PM Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user < gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: > OK,I have an app called CaptureWiz but it doesn't save as gps > > Here goes with an attachment - recent files in tax accounts and returns, > as I said, not used as gnucash data from loading, recently, but seem to > have recently saved files. Further mystery. > > My question now is can I and how do I move over to adminstrato? > > The attached files have no 'save' icon live, so, if I enter some data > will I have the same issue with saving? and what can be done? They are > in calendar terms quite recent so I would like to continue from where I > "left off" if possible. > > Thanks to all for the advice. > > Barry > > > > On 27/08/2023 14:50, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > > You do not need to do anything with the gnucash files to send a > > screenshot. > > > > We DO NOT need you to send the actual gnucash files. > > > > You can't copy/paste images here. They are removed. > > > > You have to ATTACH the screenshots. > > > > What mail application are you using to access this list? > > > > Regards, > > Adrien > > > > On 8/27/23 5:50 AM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote: > >> Yes, I am aware of that, but, for reasons I don't know, I have been > >> unable to a) select a list of GNU files and then rename them and b) > >> copy and paste as an alternative. > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or > Reply-All.___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- David Carlson ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash
I specifically asked that question, either higher up in this thread, or in another related thread. (the very fact there are multiple threads on this subject, at least 5 by my current count, is another topic of discussion entirely) Good to know David that you managed to discern as much. Barry, please respond and confirm, but specifically, don't just confirm if you use a Gmail interface (it appears some times that your e-mail origination is *not* Gmail) but confirm what APP you use to access and send e-mail. That is: do you log into an e-mail website, or do you have a separate 'Mail' application you use. And in each case, WHAT specifically do you use. (that is, what is the EXACT URL of the website you use to access e-mail, or what is the actual name of the e-mail app you use if not web-based) Regards, Adrien On 8/27/23 2:17 PM, David Carlson wrote: Ken, I checked one of Barry's messages and found that it was fent from a gmail server, so I assumed that he is using Gmail. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Issues with gnucash files
Barry, On 8/27/23 12:49 PM, Mahon Finbar via gnucash-user wrote: OK,I have an app called CaptureWiz but it doesn't save as gps "gps" as a file format was never requested. I don't know why you think it was. Why did you even comment on this fact, who told you that was the necessary format? (where did you get that idea?) Note, you *do not* need a screenshot app, though some of them do offer extra abilities. At a very basic level, Windows OS has supported the PrtSc key on your keyboard for 30+years. If you hit that key, a screenshot of your current viewport will be saved somewhere. In the past it was a BMP format to the clipboard, but I've heard modern versions save a PNG to a folder. You NEED to do a tad bit of homework to learn how this works. Of course, if you already know how to use CaptureWiz, that is fine. I'm sure its formats are compatible with this list. -- Here goes with an attachment - recent files in tax accounts and returns, as I said, not used as gnucash data from loading, recently, but seem to have recently saved files. Further mystery. Not a mystery. You clearly are not paying attention to where you are saving your files or where you are accessing them from. (once you told us it was 'tax accounts and returns' under the 'Barry Mahon' user and other times you told us it was under the 'Documents' under the 'admistrato' user) We can help you to a point, but the end result relies on you. You absolutely *must* get it straight in your mind where your files are stored. We can help you sort that out, especially now that you've figured out attachments. I have REPEATEDLY stated not to try to send your actual files to us. Those won't do any/much good. Yet, that is what you just did. And in this case, you sent a log file, which is effectively useless to us. (you also sent everyone on this list an actual copy of your GnuCash file — 2 of them in fact — that is all of your personal financial activity! No one ever requested this, I still don't know why you keep insisting you need to send it. It does us no good with regards to trying to help you.) I'll congratulate you that you did in fact this time manage to send an attachment, even if it wasn't what was requested. Now you know how to do it properly. - My question now is can I and how do I move over to adminstrato? NO! NO! NO! Do *not* move them over to the user 'adminstrato'! You need to take the files that are stored in the 'adminsistrato' tree and move them to the 'Barry Mahon' user — opposite of what you are thinking. And I have no idea why you'd think otherwise. No one has suggested what you are referencing. (that I recall) The attached files have no 'save' icon live, so, if I enter some data will I have the same issue with saving? and what can be done? They are in calendar terms quite recent so I would like to continue from where I "left off" if possible. What in the world are you talking about? No, log files (I didn't know you could open them with GnuCash) are unlikely to show an active 'save' icon. Why would you remotely think so? They are LOG files. They 'log' activity (and maybe) errors with activity. (I think errors go to the Tracefile, but that is another topic) And if you tried to 'save' the attached 'gnucash' files and they didn't save, or were greyed out, that makes sense if you were logged in as 'Barry Mahon' but these files were 'owned' by 'administrato'. STOP trying to open files and save them. STOP. If that is what you keep doing, you are seriously making a MESS. I advised you weeks ago to slow down. I repeat that advice. STOP. SLOW DOWN. Do *NOT* just 'Do Something'. That is a terrible approach if you don't know exactly what it is you are doing. - The next request is to send a screenshot, while viewing the Windows Explorer, when viewing the folder where your Gnucash file resides. Does that sound complicated? If so, say so, and myself or someone else will simplify this process. Regards, Adrien p.s — Barry, I know some of the above sentences may seem harsh. I'm doing my best to help you as is everyone else here. You *really* have to meet myself and everyone else here at least half-way. You've made a big stride in attaching an image vs. copy/pasting one. Keep that momentum up and we'll have you solving your conundrum in a jiffy. But you have to keep that momentum up... ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Ajuda na Tradução da Documentação para Português Brasil
Thank you for the correction John. And thanks for the 'good to know' info. I didn't think any of you spoke/write Portuguese, but I also didn't think very far, that because of this, ya'll are less likely to peruse that list... My apologies for any noise, and I'll endeavor to remember this tidbit in the future. I certainly don't want to direct someone to a place that won't result in a proper answer. Regards, Adrien On 8/27/23 11:20 AM, john wrote: Marcondes, While Adrien is correct that there's a Brazilian mailing list, no-one in the development team reads or writes Portuguese so this is the right place to offer to translate. Please use English here. We'd be glad to have a Brazilian Portuguese translation of the documentation, but you need to know that it's quite a bit of work and there are some technical aspects that can be challenging: The documents are formatted using Docbook, an XML dialect, and you must use git and Github pull requests to submit your translation. Please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Documentation_Translation for detailed information. Regards, John Ralls ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Issues
Hi, several weeks ago, I installed GNUcash vs 5.3. I had been using vs 2.4.13. I used to be the financial accountant at our church for 20 years until my disability forced me to retire. The man that took over uses 2.4.13, however installed 5.3 on one of his Windows 10 laptops, but he is having issues, where I am not. The issue he is having, is that he can not display more than 4 accounts at one time on the page. I have no problems displaying even 7 accounts. After displaying more than 4 accounts, they just horizontally shrink to accommodate more accounts on my Windows 10 laptop. His does not. He can only display 4 accounts. Is there a setting to change that will allow him to display more than 4 accounts? The issue I am having: Despite changing the option not to display negative numbers is red in the preferences, negative numbers still show up in red in reports. Greg ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Ajuda na Tradução da Documentação para Português Brasil
On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 18:19:30 -0500 Adrien Monteleone wrote: > Thank you for the correction John. And thanks for the 'good to know' > info. > > I didn't think any of you spoke/write Portuguese, but I also didn't > think very far, that because of this, ya'll are less likely to peruse > that list... > > My apologies for any noise, and I'll endeavor to remember this tidbit > in the future. I certainly don't want to direct someone to a place > that won't result in a proper answer. > > Regards, > Adrien It is a bit more complex, because Marcondes Araújo is not subscribed to this list, so I have vetted the email, and decided to let it through to the list. Then John replied to Adrien's message, and then Marcondes was not copied into John's reply, so I have chosen to forward it. Liz ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash
On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 17:40:16 -0500 Adrien Monteleone wrote: > Barry, please respond and confirm, but specifically, don't just > confirm if you use a Gmail interface (it appears some times that your > e-mail origination is *not* Gmail) but confirm what APP you use to > access and send e-mail. That is: do you log into an e-mail website, > or do you have a separate 'Mail' application you use. And in each > case, WHAT specifically do you use. (that is, what is the EXACT URL > of the website you use to access e-mail, or what is the actual name > of the e-mail app you use if not web-based) > > Regards, > Adrien My observation from the headers was Thunderbird Liz ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Fwd: Gnucash
Thanks Liz, I forgot to check those. Regards, Adrien On 8/27/23 9:45 PM, Liz wrote: My observation from the headers was Thunderbird ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Issues
Greg, 2.4.x was a very old release. Did you properly go through the version by version upgrade on both machines, or did you just jump from 2.4.13 to 5.3? And what do you mean exactly by 'display accounts on the page'? Can he not open more than 4 register tabs? (so 5 tabs total including the ever-present 'Accounts' tab) Maybe a screenshot here will help clarify. Obfuscate any sensitive numbers/info of course. As for the negative numbers issue: That preference is for the Accounts Tab & various Register Tabs. Reports have their own separate display controls via Style Sheets. Unless otherwise specified, all reports use the 'Default' style sheet. You can set a custom style sheet via Options, or else edit the default style sheet via Edit > Style Sheets. From there, select 'Default' and click the Edit button. You'll see on the Fonts tab an option for 'Negative numbers in red' that you can un-select. Click 'Apply', Then reload the report. Future reports should behave accordingly. Regards, Adrien On 8/27/23 9:38 PM, Greg wrote: Hi, several weeks ago, I installed GNUcash vs 5.3. I had been using vs 2.4.13. I used to be the financial accountant at our church for 20 years until my disability forced me to retire. The man that took over uses 2.4.13, however installed 5.3 on one of his Windows 10 laptops, but he is having issues, where I am not. The issue he is having, is that he can not display more than 4 accounts at one time on the page. I have no problems displaying even 7 accounts. After displaying more than 4 accounts, they just horizontally shrink to accommodate more accounts on my Windows 10 laptop. His does not. He can only display 4 accounts. Is there a setting to change that will allow him to display more than 4 accounts? The issue I am having: Despite changing the option not to display negative numbers is red in the preferences, negative numbers still show up in red in reports. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
