Re: [GNC] Whole life insurance

[Michael or Penny Novack]

An exception to the previous (one where you WOULD be able to separate 
out the "cost of the insurance component").


Split dollar life insurance.

This is something an employer might include in the compensation package. 
Especially as serves as an incentive for the employee to stay at least 
until becomes a positive value.


This is a cash value policy, usually "whole life", premiums paid by the 
employer and owned by the employer, but with certain rights given to the 
employee.


a) The right to name the beneficiary (who gets the face value if you die)

b) The right to "buy out" the policy by paying the employer back all the 
premiums to that point.


c) The right to have the policy surrendered and receive the amount by 
which the sum of the premiums paid is less than the cash value (if not 
less, you would owe that amount, hence the incentive to stay).


The "cost of insurance" is the amount of the premium required to pay for 
the equivalent in term insurance and is reported to you on your pay 
statement. In other words, part of your taxable pay but you don't 
actually receive it as used pay for insurance. This is similar to the 
deduction for "group life" insurance which might also be offered as part 
of the compensation package and can be up to five years salary (but only 
the first $50,000 is tax free). But  it is that "cost of insurance" part 
of "split dollar" that gives it the name of "split".


Anyway -- because in THIS case the cost of the term insurance is split 
out for you you could account for that as an ordinary expense. Since 
split dollar is usually thought of as an investment (where the employer 
puts up the capital) You might record the annual premium paid (less the 
"cost of insurance part" debit expense and credit a liability (you in 
effect owe the company for those premiums, payable from proceeds if/when 
the policy is surrendered (or from your pocket if you choose to buy the 
employer out and keep the policy. Note that the decision which option to 
choose would be made at the time of leaving based upon your health 
status at this future date.


For those still unclear about what this employee benefit is -- 
essentially the employer is letting you profit from an investment where 
they provide an interest free loan for the capital and the right to make 
a future "adverse selection" decision << your health is poor, but the 
company has to let you buy the policy at the standard premium rate, not 
the much higher premium charged somebody in poor health >>  They are 
also giving you (in the meantime) the right to name the beneficiary and 
they are paying for that but the IRS considers THAT to be a taxable 
benefit so you pay tax on this small bit of income that you never 
received in hand.


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] Flathub does not install Gnucash ver. 4.10 flatpak, but only installs lower ver. 3.7

[john]

1: I have no way of knowing what you did.

2: Command line expertise is pretty central to using Linux. Consider either 
spending some time learning how to use it or going back to Windows.

3: Yes, but you've already established that you're not able to install them, 
see answer 2.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Apr 23, 2022, at 11:14 PM, parag puranik  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for your feedback John.
> (1) If the first ever version is 3.11 by Flathub, how the random version 3.7 
> got installed ?
> (2) Gone through the two links. However, being new to Linux (1 year) pulling 
> older release from Flathub via CLI is beyond my capacity/skill level. Neither 
> can I build the flatpak myself.
> (3) Just like all historical versions of Gnucash (.exe) for Windows are 
> available on Sourceforge, are there any archived Gnucash flatpaks for Linux ?
> 
>  
> 
> On Saturday, 23 April, 2022, 11:14:16 pm IST, john  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 23, 2022, at 12:16 AM, parag puranik via gnucash-user 
>> mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> My OS: Linux Mint Tricia 19.3 Cinnamon (32 bit) - (I do not have compatible 
>> hardware to upgrade it.)
>> I tried to install the latest Flatpak version of Gnucash 4.10 from 
>> Flathub.org  through clicking 'Install' button on its 
>> site. 
>> However it installs the  lower version 3.7, without even giving me warning 
>> that - 'instead of ver 4.10, it is installing lower ver. 3.7'. 
>> Please help me know the reason where I am going wrong ? 
>> Actually I wanted to install Flatpak of version 3.11 first- (not going 
>> straight to ver. 4.10 from my default repository ver. 2.6.19). But 
>> unfortunately Flathub.org  does not have version 3.11 
>> listed.
>> Alternatively, what is the 'way to go' to install latest Flatpak ver. 3.11 ? 
>> Is there any (.deb) installation file ? or is there any available archived 
>> Flatpak of ver, 3.11 ? 
> 
> That doesn't seem likely since the first flatub release was 3.11.
> 
> https://discourse.flathub.org/t/install-an-older-version-of-an-app/320/3 
>  
> explains how to get an older release from flathub and the commit history can 
> be found at https://github.com/gnucash/gnucash-on-flatpak 
> . The hash for 3.11 is c354cee.
> There are nightly builds going back to 3.4 at 
> https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak/maint/ 
> .
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [GNC] Flathub does not install Gnucash ver. 4.10 flatpak, but only installs lower ver. 3.7

[parag puranik via gnucash-user]

 What I did was as follows:sudo apt install flatpak
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:flatpak/stable
sudo apt update
sudo apt install flatpak
sudo apt install gnome-software-plugin-flatpakflatpak remote-add 
--if-not-exists flathub https://flathub.org/repo/flathub.flatpakrepoRebooted 
the machine
Then went to Flathub.org , then searched for Gnucash, then clicked Install 
button to install GNUcash Flatpak.
The website showed version 4.10, but version 3.7 got installed.

On Sunday, 24 April, 2022, 08:58:33 pm IST, john  wrote:  
 
 1: I have no way of knowing what you did.
2: Command line expertise is pretty central to using Linux. Consider either 
spending some time learning how to use it or going back to Windows.
3: Yes, but you've already established that you're not able to install them, 
see answer 2.
Regards,John Ralls


On Apr 23, 2022, at 11:14 PM, parag puranik  wrote:
 
Thanks for yourfeedback John.

(1) If the firstever version is 3.11 by Flathub, how the random version 3.7 
gotinstalled ?

(2) Gone through thetwo links. However, being new to Linux (1 year) pulling 
older releasefrom Flathub via CLI is beyond my capacity/skill level. Neither 
can Ibuild the flatpak myself.

(3) Just like allhistorical versions of Gnucash (.exe) for Windows are 
available onSourceforge, are there any archived Gnucash flatpaks for Linux ?

 

On Saturday, 23 April, 2022, 11:14:16 pm IST, john  
wrote:  
 
 


On Apr 23, 2022, at 12:16 AM, parag puranik via gnucash-user 
 wrote:
My OS: Linux Mint Tricia 19.3 Cinnamon (32 bit) - (I do not have compatible 
hardware to upgrade it.)
I tried to install the latest Flatpak version of Gnucash 4.10 from Flathub.org 
through clicking 'Install' button on its site. 
However it installs the  lower version 3.7, without even giving me warning that 
- 'instead of ver 4.10, it is installing lower ver. 3.7'. 
Please help me know the reason where I am going wrong ? 
Actually I wanted to install Flatpak of version 3.11 first- (not going straight 
to ver. 4.10 from my default repository ver. 2.6.19). But unfortunately 
Flathub.org does not have version 3.11 listed.
Alternatively, what is the 'way to go' to install latest Flatpak ver. 3.11 ? 
Is there any (.deb) installation file ? or is there any available archived 
Flatpak of ver, 3.11 ? 


That doesn't seem likely since the first flatub release was 3.11.
https://discourse.flathub.org/t/install-an-older-version-of-an-app/320/3 
explains how to get an older release from flathub and the commit history can be 
found at https://github.com/gnucash/gnucash-on-flatpak. The hash for 3.11 is 
c354cee.There are nightly builds going back to 3.4 at 
https://code.gnucash.org/builds/flatpak/maint/.
Regards,John Ralls


  

  
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[GNC] Reinstall GnuCash after Ubuntu upgrade to 22.04

[Steve Cohen]

I just upgraded my system to Ubuntu 22.04 (from 21.10). As a non-official
application, GNUcash seems to have been removed from the system or rendered
non-functional though a launch icon remains and does nothing.  Prior to
install, I was running GNC 4.9.

Can someone please point me in the right direction for building or
installing the best version of GNUcash on my new system?

Thanks.
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Re: [GNC] Why is Licenses and Permits Charges, not Expenses?

[Howard M. Fried]

Spectacular, thank you Jim.  Your suggestion was the solution.  I would 
never have found it on my own.


Cheers,
Howard


On 4/24/22 11:28 AM, gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote:


Message: 1
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2022 13:29:16 -0700
From: Jim DeLaHunt 
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC]  Why is ?Licenses and Permits? Charges, not
Expenses?
Message-ID: <02f21ef7-13d7-e4b9-e99b-988213004...@jdlh.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

On 2022-04-23 09:13, Howard M. Fried wrote:


In my (business) account hierarchy, all Expenses are listed as
positive numbers (in black).? However, the Expense category Licenses
and Permits is displayed as a negative number (in red).? In the list
of transactions, the amount column is labeled Expenses for all
(in-use) expense categories, except Licenses and Permits, for which
the amount column is labeled Charges.


I suggest you double-check the Account Type for the "Licenses and
Permits" account. You can do this from the Accounts tab, by clicking on
the account and pressing the Edit button. An Edit Account dialogue
appears. In the bottom left corner of this dialogue, there is a list,
"Account Type". In an expense hierarchy, only the types Income and
Expense will be listed. If Income is highlighted, change it to Expense.

The clue is that use of the term "Charges". In an Income account, the
left amount column is titled "Charge", and the right is titled "Income".
In an Expense account, the left amount column is titled "Expense", and
the right is titled "Rebate".

Does this help?

Best regards,
  ?? ?Jim DeLaHunt

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Re: [GNC] Reinstall GnuCash after Ubuntu upgrade to 22.04

[david whiting]

You have at least three options:

1) Install version 4.8a that ships with Ubuntu 22.04: sudo apt install gnucash

2) Use flatpack, this will get you a more recent version. See
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak

3) Build it yourself, and get 4.9 or the maintenance release (or other
releases). See 
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building_On_Ubuntu#Build_Instructions

David

On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 at 17:59, Steve Cohen  wrote:
>
> I just upgraded my system to Ubuntu 22.04 (from 21.10). As a non-official
> application, GNUcash seems to have been removed from the system or rendered
> non-functional though a launch icon remains and does nothing.  Prior to
> install, I was running GNC 4.9.
>
> Can someone please point me in the right direction for building or
> installing the best version of GNUcash on my new system?
>
> Thanks.
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Re: [GNC] Reinstall GnuCash after Ubuntu upgrade to 22.04

[David Carlson]

Thank you David W.  Now for myself and other users that are not comfortable
with Flatpak or with DIY solutions but willing to accept backports, what is
the probability of seeing more recent 4.x releases as backports to the
Ubuntu distro?

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 2:06 PM david whiting  wrote:

> You have at least three options:
>
> 1) Install version 4.8a that ships with Ubuntu 22.04: sudo apt install
> gnucash
>
> 2) Use flatpack, this will get you a more recent version. See
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak
>
> 3) Build it yourself, and get 4.9 or the maintenance release (or other
> releases). See
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building_On_Ubuntu#Build_Instructions
>
> David
>
> On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 at 17:59, Steve Cohen  wrote:
> >
> > I just upgraded my system to Ubuntu 22.04 (from 21.10). As a non-official
> > application, GNUcash seems to have been removed from the system or
> rendered
> > non-functional though a launch icon remains and does nothing.  Prior to
> > install, I was running GNC 4.9.
> >
> > Can someone please point me in the right direction for building or
> > installing the best version of GNUcash on my new system?
> >
> > Thanks.
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Re: [GNC] Whole life insurance

[Fred Tydeman]

The yearly life insurance company statement only shows
  Increase in cash value
  Increase in death benefit
It is fully paid up, so no more premiums.

Since the cash value is a real asset that I can borrow, I am now thinking
the increase in cash value
should be done as Non-taxable income.

However, I still have no idea how to do the future death benefit.
It is not an asset of mine.  It might be an asset of my wife (if I die
first).
Or, it might be an asset of my son (if I die after my wife).

On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 10:40 AM Fred Tydeman 
wrote:

> Suggestions on how to record for whole life insurance:
>   Premiums paid
>   Increase in cash value
>   Future death benefit
>
>  I think some of that is like the Degas painting example in the Tutorial
> in that the increase in cash value is an Unrealized Gain.
>
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Re: [GNC] Whole life insurance

[Michael or Penny Novack]

However, I still have no idea how to do the future death benefit.
It is not an asset of mine.  It might be an asset of my wife (if I die
first).


The death benefit is not an asset of anybody (yet). And yes, it could 
result in an asset in YOUR books. Sorry, but death is no excuse for not 
paying taxes so your books may live on a bit until closed by your executor.


As owner of the policy (unless a court rules otherwise*) one of your 
rights is to name/specify the beneficiary but that COULD be you, in the 
sense of your estate.


Michael D Novack

* You might be ordered to lose this right to change the beneficiary, say 
as part of a divorce settlement




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[GNC] Shutdown using the "X" in windows 11

[Gyle McCollam]

Using Windows 11 and GnuCash 4.10

Also had this issue in an older version.  Clicked on the "X" to shut down and 
had not saved first.  In the dialogue I clicked on Cancel, but it still 
shutdown.  I expected "Cancel" to cancel the operation (shutdown), am I wrong.  
What operation is it canceling?  All 3 options have the same result,  They all 
close the program without saving and upon restart, I got the message that 
"GnuCash could not obtain the lock for 
C:\Users\*\OneDrive\Documents\GNUCash\**.gnucash." (see pic 2)  "***" for 
my specific system names.

[cid:5ce6c5d0-06c4-4be7-88c9-51e0ab733c10]

[cid:5082774d-7534-4039-ace7-d5b0d8aa2efa]

I will try to remember to "Save" first, however when I do forget it is 
frustrating that this built in safeguard doesn't work.


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

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Re: [GNC] Shutdown using the "X" in windows 11

[David Carlson]

I have found that in one instance of of GnuCash 3.8 in a Ubuntu 21.04
laptop and in another instance of GnuCash 3.8 in a virtualbox instance of
Linux Lite based, I think, on the same release of Ubuntu, that if the
machines are allowed to to develop swap files larger than a few hundred
Megs before rebooting, then GnuCash sometimes fails to clear the lock file
even when it is closed several minutes before rebooting.  I suspect that
newer releases of GnuCash may also fail to close the lock file if there is
a possibility that they are involved with a swap file.  Further, it would
be easy to conclude that somehow this is interpreted either accurately or
erroneously as depending on whether the program is closed by clicking on
the "X" icon or using Alt-F, Q or Ctrl-Q.  I also believe that if there
happens to be a pending edit left open, it is very easy to overlook the
warning in the rush to close GnuCash.  That can also prevent clearing the
lock file.

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 6:19 PM Gyle McCollam  wrote:

> Using Windows 11 and GnuCash 4.10
>
> Also had this issue in an older version.  Clicked on the "X" to shut down
> and had not saved first.  In the dialogue I clicked on Cancel, but it still
> shutdown.  I expected "Cancel" to cancel the operation (shutdown), am I
> wrong.  What operation is it canceling?  All 3 options have the same
> result,  They all close the program without saving and upon restart, I got
> the message that "GnuCash could not obtain the lock for
> C:\Users\*\OneDrive\Documents\GNUCash\**.gnucash." (see pic 2)  "***"
> for my specific system names.
>
> [cid:5ce6c5d0-06c4-4be7-88c9-51e0ab733c10]
>
> [cid:5082774d-7534-4039-ace7-d5b0d8aa2efa]
>
> I will try to remember to "Save" first, however when I do forget it is
> frustrating that this built in safeguard doesn't work.
>
>
> Thank You,
> Gyle McCollam
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> 609.680.2326 Mobile
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Re: [GNC] Shutdown using the "X" in windows 11

[Glenn Fowler]

I just tested 4.10 on Windows 10 and all 3 buttons close without saving and
then on relaunching got the lock error. However, if I let my 3 second
auto-save timer expire it does save  changes as expected and I do not get
the lock error on relaunching.

It appears you have found a bug.

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 7:18 PM Gyle McCollam  wrote:

> Using Windows 11 and GnuCash 4.10
>
> Also had this issue in an older version.  Clicked on the "X" to shut down
> and had not saved first.  In the dialogue I clicked on Cancel, but it still
> shutdown.  I expected "Cancel" to cancel the operation (shutdown), am I
> wrong.  What operation is it canceling?  All 3 options have the same
> result,  They all close the program without saving and upon restart, I got
> the message that "GnuCash could not obtain the lock for
> C:\Users\*\OneDrive\Documents\GNUCash\**.gnucash." (see pic 2)  "***"
> for my specific system names.
>
> [cid:5ce6c5d0-06c4-4be7-88c9-51e0ab733c10]
>
> [cid:5082774d-7534-4039-ace7-d5b0d8aa2efa]
>
> I will try to remember to "Save" first, however when I do forget it is
> frustrating that this built in safeguard doesn't work.
>
>
> Thank You,
> Gyle McCollam
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
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Re: [GNC] Reinstall GnuCash after Ubuntu upgrade to 22.04

[Tommy Trussell]

I looked here --
https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/gnucash
shows version 4.8 SHOULD be available to you. HOWEVER I have heard the new
Ubuntu release strongly pushes everything packaged in snaps. (I haven't
upgraded yet so I'm only going by some initial reviews.) I definitely don't
recommend installing the ancient unofficial GnuCash 2.6.21 app in the snap
store.

However the version in Ubuntu 21.10 "Impish" seemed to have been GnuCash
4.4, so it seems you got GnuCash 4.9 from somewhere else.

You may want to review your software sources. The software upgrader
probably disabled a PPA or some other non-official software source for
GnuCash.

The old repository you were using will be present in your sources but
commented out. Look in /etc/apt/sources.d/ for a separate file, or a
modification to your /etc/apt/sources.list file.

And if you're used to installing from the Ubuntu Software "store," you
might want to install using a terminal instead.


On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 2:18 PM David Carlson 
wrote:

> Thank you David W.  Now for myself and other users that are not comfortable
> with Flatpak or with DIY solutions but willing to accept backports, what is
> the probability of seeing more recent 4.x releases as backports to the
> Ubuntu distro?
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 2:06 PM david whiting 
> wrote:
>
> > You have at least three options:
> >
> > 1) Install version 4.8a that ships with Ubuntu 22.04: sudo apt install
> > gnucash
> >
> > 2) Use flatpack, this will get you a more recent version. See
> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak
> >
> > 3) Build it yourself, and get 4.9 or the maintenance release (or other
> > releases). See
> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building_On_Ubuntu#Build_Instructions
> >
> > David
> >
> > On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 at 17:59, Steve Cohen  wrote:
> > >
> > > I just upgraded my system to Ubuntu 22.04 (from 21.10). As a
> non-official
> > > application, GNUcash seems to have been removed from the system or
> > rendered
> > > non-functional though a launch icon remains and does nothing.  Prior to
> > > install, I was running GNC 4.9.
> > >
> > > Can someone please point me in the right direction for building or
> > > installing the best version of GNUcash on my new system?
> > >
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Re: [GNC] Reinstall GnuCash after Ubuntu upgrade to 22.04

[David H]

Steve,

How did you upgrade? I'm still getting the not available message and I've
put off upgrading from 21.10 to 22.04 for the moment because of the
following in the release notes at
https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-release-notes/24668...

Cheers David H.

Upgrading from Ubuntu 21.10

Upgrades to 22.04 LTS are currently not enabled (due a bug with snapd and
update-notifier) but will be in the next couple of days.




On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 at 11:16, Tommy Trussell 
wrote:

> I looked here --
> https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/gnucash
> shows version 4.8 SHOULD be available to you. HOWEVER I have heard the new
> Ubuntu release strongly pushes everything packaged in snaps. (I haven't
> upgraded yet so I'm only going by some initial reviews.) I definitely don't
> recommend installing the ancient unofficial GnuCash 2.6.21 app in the snap
> store.
>
> However the version in Ubuntu 21.10 "Impish" seemed to have been GnuCash
> 4.4, so it seems you got GnuCash 4.9 from somewhere else.
>
> You may want to review your software sources. The software upgrader
> probably disabled a PPA or some other non-official software source for
> GnuCash.
>
> The old repository you were using will be present in your sources but
> commented out. Look in /etc/apt/sources.d/ for a separate file, or a
> modification to your /etc/apt/sources.list file.
>
> And if you're used to installing from the Ubuntu Software "store," you
> might want to install using a terminal instead.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 2:18 PM David Carlson  >
> wrote:
>
> > Thank you David W.  Now for myself and other users that are not
> comfortable
> > with Flatpak or with DIY solutions but willing to accept backports, what
> is
> > the probability of seeing more recent 4.x releases as backports to the
> > Ubuntu distro?
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 2:06 PM david whiting 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > You have at least three options:
> > >
> > > 1) Install version 4.8a that ships with Ubuntu 22.04: sudo apt install
> > > gnucash
> > >
> > > 2) Use flatpack, this will get you a more recent version. See
> > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak
> > >
> > > 3) Build it yourself, and get 4.9 or the maintenance release (or other
> > > releases). See
> > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building_On_Ubuntu#Build_Instructions
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 at 17:59, Steve Cohen  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I just upgraded my system to Ubuntu 22.04 (from 21.10). As a
> > non-official
> > > > application, GNUcash seems to have been removed from the system or
> > > rendered
> > > > non-functional though a launch icon remains and does nothing.  Prior
> to
> > > > install, I was running GNC 4.9.
> > > >
> > > > Can someone please point me in the right direction for building or
> > > > installing the best version of GNUcash on my new system?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
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Re: [GNC] Shutdown using the "X" in windows 11

[David H]

FYI,

I'm finding none of this with GnuCash 4.10 on MacOS Monterey and Big Sur,
Ubuntu 21.10 (Flatpak and local build) and Windows 10 Pro (21H2 , OS
Build 19044.1645) with my data file saved locally.  If I change a
transaction and don't commit it and attempt to "X" out of GnuCash I'm
prompted to Save Txn, Discard Txn or Cancel which all work as expected -
Cancel just stops the close process as expected.  If I commit the change
and attempt to "X" out of GnuCash I'm prompted to Save file, Close without
Saving or Cancel which again stops the Close process.

Cheers David H.


On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 at 10:08, Glenn Fowler  wrote:

> I just tested 4.10 on Windows 10 and all 3 buttons close without saving and
> then on relaunching got the lock error. However, if I let my 3 second
> auto-save timer expire it does save  changes as expected and I do not get
> the lock error on relaunching.
>
> It appears you have found a bug.
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 7:18 PM Gyle McCollam  wrote:
>
> > Using Windows 11 and GnuCash 4.10
> >
> > Also had this issue in an older version.  Clicked on the "X" to shut down
> > and had not saved first.  In the dialogue I clicked on Cancel, but it
> still
> > shutdown.  I expected "Cancel" to cancel the operation (shutdown), am I
> > wrong.  What operation is it canceling?  All 3 options have the same
> > result,  They all close the program without saving and upon restart, I
> got
> > the message that "GnuCash could not obtain the lock for
> > C:\Users\*\OneDrive\Documents\GNUCash\**.gnucash." (see pic 2)  "***"
> > for my specific system names.
> >
> > [cid:5ce6c5d0-06c4-4be7-88c9-51e0ab733c10]
> >
> > [cid:5082774d-7534-4039-ace7-d5b0d8aa2efa]
> >
> > I will try to remember to "Save" first, however when I do forget it is
> > frustrating that this built in safeguard doesn't work.
> >
> >
> > Thank You,
> > Gyle McCollam
> >
> > Gyle McCollam
> >
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> >
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Re: [GNC] Reinstall GnuCash after Ubuntu upgrade to 22.04

[davidcousens49]

David Tommy etal

As Ubuntu and Linux Mint are ultimately Debian based it should be possible to
install using dpkg or the Gdebi installer (you may need to install this on
Ubuntu -in terminal - "sudo apt install gdebi - but it is the default installer
in Linux Mint) from http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gnucash/ which
has versions up to 4.10-2 available usually for a range of processor types.
 Click on a version link to download the appropriate .deb file  and then at
terminal prompt type  "sudo gdebi .deb" and return.

David Cousens
 
On Sun, 2022-04-24 at 14:17 -0500, David Carlson wrote:
> Thank you David W.  Now for myself and other users that are not comfortable
> with Flatpak or with DIY solutions but willing to accept backports, what is
> the probability of seeing more recent 4.x releases as backports to the
> Ubuntu distro?
> 
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 2:06 PM david whiting  wrote:
> 
> > You have at least three options:
> > 
> > 1) Install version 4.8a that ships with Ubuntu 22.04: sudo apt install
> > gnucash
> > 
> > 2) Use flatpack, this will get you a more recent version. See
> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Flatpak
> > 
> > 3) Build it yourself, and get 4.9 or the maintenance release (or other
> > releases). See
> > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building_On_Ubuntu#Build_Instructions
> > 
> > David
> > 
> > On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 at 17:59, Steve Cohen  wrote:
> > > I just upgraded my system to Ubuntu 22.04 (from 21.10). As a non-official
> > > application, GNUcash seems to have been removed from the system or
> > rendered
> > > non-functional though a launch icon remains and does nothing.  Prior to
> > > install, I was running GNC 4.9.
> > > 
> > > Can someone please point me in the right direction for building or
> > > installing the best version of GNUcash on my new system?
> > > 
> > > Thanks.
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