Re: [GNC] How do I get the 3D Interface look - Take 2?

[Geert Janssens]

Op dinsdag 16 maart 2021 01:58:37 CET schreef list+gnuc...@jdlh.com:
> On 2021-03-15 17:22, viking wrote:
> > …The interface changed now, but it doesn't give me the nice "3D" interface
> > seen in the manuals (from v2.x which used GTK2).
> > What was the reason for going to GTK3, and loosing the much nicer looking
> > (IMHO) "3D" interface?
> 
> One of the developers will probably be able to point to the specific
> reasons and the specific announcements by the GnuCash project. But as an
> onlooker I can tell you that the people behind GTK2 moved on to GTK3,
> and now GTK4. Their recommendation to everyone was to use the overlap
> time of GTK2 and GTK3 simultaneous support to move apps from GTK2 to
> GTK3. Then, with the release of GTK4, they stopped supporting GTK2. If
> GnuCash were not to move forward along with the GTK project, they would
> have no way to get bug fixes and improvements from the GTK project.
> There is a lot more to GTK than just the 2D vs 3D look. IMHO it is a
> wise decision for GnuCash to move forward as recommended by their tool
> providers.
> 
> Best regards,
>  —Jim DeLaHunt, Vancouver, Canada

That's more or less our motivation indeed. In our particular case the switch 
was made even more urgent because we depend also on webkitgtk, which had 
already dropped support for Gtk2 quite some time before us and decided to no 
longer maintain the old Gtk2 version. Because of the potential security risks 
involved with a webbrowser (library), most linux distributions quickly dropped 
the old package from their repositories and gnucash risked getting dropped 
with it.

Regards,

Geert


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Re: [GNC] Importing Accounts with non-English Characters

[viking]

Jim DeLaHunt wrote
> On 2021-03-15 22:39, viking wrote:
> 
>> There does nto appear to be an option in GnuCash to select UTF-8 when
>> importing?
> 
> According to the GnuCash Help documentation, section 6.16.5. "Import 
> CSV" (https://www.gnucash.org/viewdoc.phtml?rev=4&lang=C&doc=help 
> ;),
> the CSV 
> importer has a "CSV Import Preview" pane which includes an "Encoding". 
> Set this to UTF-8.
> 
> If what you author as Startvärde gets imported as Startvärde, that 
> sounds like your CSV Import Preview setting for Encoding is actually 
> ISO8859/1 or something like that.
> 
> Best regards,
>   —Jim DeLaHunt
> 
> 
> ___

When I import *Transactions* from a CVS file, I can indeed set the encoding
to UTF-8.
However, there is no such option when importing *Accounts*.  
Thus, importing Accounts with non-English characters gets "corrupted" .




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Re: [GNC] How do I get the 3D Interface look - Take 2?

[viking]

Jim DeLaHunt wrote
> On 2021-03-15 17:22, viking wrote:
>> …The interface changed now, but it doesn't give me the nice "3D"
>> interface
>> seen in the manuals (from v2.x which used GTK2).
>> What was the reason for going to GTK3, and loosing the much nicer looking
>> (IMHO) "3D" interface?
> 
> One of the developers will probably be able to point to the specific 
> reasons and the specific announcements by the GnuCash project. But as an 
> onlooker I can tell you that the people behind GTK2 moved on to GTK3, 
> and now GTK4. Their recommendation to everyone was to use the overlap 
> time of GTK2 and GTK3 simultaneous support to move apps from GTK2 to 
> GTK3. Then, with the release of GTK4, they stopped supporting GTK2. If 
> GnuCash were not to move forward along with the GTK project, they would 
> have no way to get bug fixes and improvements from the GTK project. 
> There is a lot more to GTK than just the 2D vs 3D look. IMHO it is a 
> wise decision for GnuCash to move forward as recommended by their tool 
> providers.
> 
> Best regards,
>      —Jim DeLaHunt, Vancouver, Canada

OK, I can agree that GT2K should be upgraded as necessary.
However, I don't understand why GTK3 dropped the much nicer interface that
was available in GTK2. 



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Re: [GNC] Importing Accounts with non-English Characters

[Frank H. Ellenberger]

right, it is on the list:
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=785860 - "Export Account Tree
to CSV" and "Import Accounts from CSV" should use the same dialogs as
"...Transactions..."

Am 16.03.21 um 09:09 schrieb viking:
> However, there is no such option when importing *Accounts*.  
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Re: [GNC] Importing Accounts with non-English Characters

[viking]

Frank H. Ellenberger-3 wrote
> right, it is on the list:
> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=785860 - "Export Account Tree
> to CSV" and "Import Accounts from CSV" should use the same dialogs as
> "...Transactions..."
> 
> Am 16.03.21 um 09:09 schrieb viking:
>> However, there is no such option when importing *Accounts*.  

Quite an old bug from 2017. Is there a workaround to be able to import
accounts with non-English characters?

I am also not able to /manually/ create a new account including non-English
characters. For example, the letter "å" can be typed here by pressing
"Alt-0229". However, it doesn't work when trying to type this letter in the
Account name for a New Account. 
Is this another bug?




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Re: [GNC] Importing Accounts with non-English Characters

[Liz]

On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 03:31:34 -0500 (CDT)
viking  wrote:

> Quite an old bug from 2017. Is there a workaround to be able to import
> accounts with non-English characters?
> 
> I am also not able to /manually/ create a new account including
> non-English characters. For example, the letter "å" can be typed here
> by pressing "Alt-0229". However, it doesn't work when trying to type
> this letter in the Account name for a New Account. 
> Is this another bug?

Can you copy and paste the correct characters into place?

Liz
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Re: [GNC] How do I get the 3D Interface look - Take 2?

[Geert Janssens]

Op dinsdag 16 maart 2021 09:15:08 CET schreef viking:
> Jim DeLaHunt wrote
> 
> > On 2021-03-15 17:22, viking wrote:
> >> …The interface changed now, but it doesn't give me the nice "3D"
> >> interface
> >> seen in the manuals (from v2.x which used GTK2).
> >> What was the reason for going to GTK3, and loosing the much nicer looking
> >> (IMHO) "3D" interface?
> > 
> > One of the developers will probably be able to point to the specific
> > reasons and the specific announcements by the GnuCash project. But as an
> > onlooker I can tell you that the people behind GTK2 moved on to GTK3,
> > and now GTK4. Their recommendation to everyone was to use the overlap
> > time of GTK2 and GTK3 simultaneous support to move apps from GTK2 to
> > GTK3. Then, with the release of GTK4, they stopped supporting GTK2. If
> > GnuCash were not to move forward along with the GTK project, they would
> > have no way to get bug fixes and improvements from the GTK project.
> > There is a lot more to GTK than just the 2D vs 3D look. IMHO it is a
> > wise decision for GnuCash to move forward as recommended by their tool
> > providers.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> >  —Jim DeLaHunt, Vancouver, Canada
> 
> OK, I can agree that GT2K should be upgraded as necessary.
> However, I don't understand why GTK3 dropped the much nicer interface that
> was available in GTK2.
> 
That's a design decision by the Gtk project, not the gnucash project. You are 
free to discuss this with them on their fora. 

Regards,

Geert


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[GNC] Missing file messages when starting Gnucash

[avigr...@juno.com]

Version: 4.4
Build ID: 4.4+(2020-12-28)Windows 10 When I start GnuCash, I am now receiving a 
series of error messages telling me that I am missing a lot of files.  After I 
respond OK to all of the messages, it finally opens GnuCash and everything 
appears to be okay.  How do I get rid of these error messages?
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Re: [GNC] Strange message on launching app

[Mahon Finbar]

OK, I found the GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash file saved on 19.2.2021, but not 
the others. Anyway if that is the "good" backup that should be OK? It 
only has 362kb in it.


As it happens the file wasn't in a GnucashLCK folder, there were two 
files on 8.3.2021 with the same name and time and date, but in different 
folders, one of which was empty and lots of other stuff on an around 
that date.


The storage of GNU files has always been a bit of a mystery to me, they 
seem to shuffle around, a search of files with .gnucash results in more 
than 600 answers!!


OK, if I uninstall and reinstall will it find the 'good' backup mentioned?

Thanks so much for your patience and help.

Finbar

On 15/03/2021 17:03, John Ralls wrote:

The trace file associated with a crash just means that GnuCash got far enough 
into the program to open it before trying to load the library linked to 
libgncmod-app-utils.dll. That's not meaningful.

"GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash" is a very odd name for a book, but OK. The existence of a lock 
file from the 8th means that that's when you last successfully opened the file, and that the full 
name is "GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash.20210219151108.gnucash.LCK" means that you've been 
working with a backup file since mid-afternoon on 19 February. The other two files aren't from 
GnuCash; perhaps they're download or cache files from your browser?

Navigate to the folder where "GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash.20210219151108.gnucash.LCK" is and look for "GNU 
FEB 12 2019.gnucash", "GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash.20210219151108.gnucash", and files of the form "GNU 
FEB 12 2019.gnucash.20210219151108.gnucash.MMDDHHMMSS.gnucash" which will be backups of your GnuCash sessions 
since you opened the backup file instead of the original.

Regards,
John Ralls



On Mar 15, 2021, at 7:13 AM, Mahon Finbar  wrote:

OK, I appreciate that, thank you.

However, in trying to find the last backup file before uninstalling, I am 
finding some very strange file dates and times in the list.

For example - gnucash.trace.3JC5Z0.log - on 14.3.2021 - a time when I could not 
get the app to load, [with the same message as originally].

I don't seem to have any backups, which according to the help file should read 
as .MMDDHHMMSS.gnucash

The 'latest' file in the list is GNU FEB 12 
2019.gnucash.20210219151108.gnucash.LCK on 8.3.2021 and I have several - 
https___bugs_gnucash_org_enter_bug_cgi_product=GnuCash files on the same date, 
as well as several - 
{7C5A40EF-A0FB-4BFC-874A-C0F2E0B9FA8E}_gnucash_doc_gnucash_README_win32-bin_txt 
files dated the same date, 8.3.2021.

The file names don't seem to align with the help file data.

Any ideas?

Thanks Finbar

On 13/03/2021 19:47, John Ralls wrote:


The important thing is to make sure that you don't restore an old version of 
GnuCash dlls. The most straightforward way is to leave executables out of the 
backup plan because you can always download them again from their respective 
sources. A bit less simple is to have a separate backup set for them so that 
you can easily roll back after an update or restore more quickly after a disk 
failure.

Regards,
John Ralls




On Mar 13, 2021, at 6:06 AM, Mahon Finbar 
  wrote:

OK, I'll try that, thanks.

I have the most recent version for Windows 10, afaik. Haven't recently 
downloaded any update and have been using the current version for a while, like 
since last q 2020. Could be a storage glitch, I suppose.

Should I make a specific backup? I have backblaze for backup, but do I need to 
ensure files are the latest?

Finbar

On 12/03/2021 21:08, John Ralls wrote:


You don't say what version of GnuCash, but GnuCash 4.x renamed 
libgncmod-app-utils.dll to libgnc-app-utils.dll, so it seems that you have some 
leftover bits from an earlier installation. Try uninstalling GnuCash with Apps 
& Settings then delete the installation directory--it defaults to C:\Program 
Files (x86)\gnucash--before reinstalling GnuCash 4.4.

Regards,
John Ralls




On Mar 12, 2021, at 3:20 AM, Mahon Finbar 
  wrote:

Oops the screen grab didn't transfer -

"the procedure entry point gmc_scm_call_1_symbol_to_string could not be located in 
the dll C:\programfiles(x86)\gnucash\libgncmod-app-utils.dll"

On 12/03/2021 10:52, Mahon Finbar wrote:


Sorry, sent this with the wrong email address.

A Windows message? Using W10, no recent change with Gnucash.

Needs task manager to get rid of the message.

Finbar

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Re: [GNC] Missing file messages when starting Gnucash

[John Ralls]

> On Mar 16, 2021, at 6:54 AM, avigr...@juno.com wrote:
> 
> Version: 4.4
> Build ID: 4.4+(2020-12-28)Windows 10 When I start GnuCash, I am now receiving 
> a series of error messages telling me that I am missing a lot of files.  
> After I respond OK to all of the messages, it finally opens GnuCash and 
> everything appears to be okay.  How do I get rid of these error messages?

What files are missing?

As a first guess you have leftovers from a previous installation. Try 
uninstalling GnuCash using Apps & Features (right-click the Windows Start 
button, it's at the top of the menu), then navigate to C:\Program Files (x86) 
in File Explorer and delete the gnucash folder. Finally re-run 
gnucash-4.4-setup.exe.

Regards,
John Ralls


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Re: [GNC] Strange message on launching app

[John Ralls]

That's probably not the file you want unless you haven't entered anything since 
19 February. You had a lock on "GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash.20210219151108.gnucash" 
suggesting that might not be the case.

https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Basics:_Filenames.2C_Directories.2C_... 
explains how GnuCash organizes your data files. If they're spread out over 
several folders that's your doing, not GnuCash's.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Mar 16, 2021, at 7:08 AM, Mahon Finbar  wrote:
> 
> OK, I found the GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash file saved on 19.2.2021, but not the 
> others. Anyway if that is the "good" backup that should be OK? It only has 
> 362kb in it.
> 
> As it happens the file wasn't in a GnucashLCK folder, there were two 
> files on 8.3.2021 with the same name and time and date, but in different 
> folders, one of which was empty and lots of other stuff on an around that 
> date.
> 
> The storage of GNU files has always been a bit of a mystery to me, they seem 
> to shuffle around, a search of files with .gnucash results in more than 600 
> answers!!
> 
> OK, if I uninstall and reinstall will it find the 'good' backup mentioned?
> 
> Thanks so much for your patience and help.
> 
> Finbar
> 
> On 15/03/2021 17:03, John Ralls wrote:
>> The trace file associated with a crash just means that GnuCash got far 
>> enough into the program to open it before trying to load the library linked 
>> to libgncmod-app-utils.dll. That's not meaningful.
>> 
>> "GNU FEB 12 2019.gnucash" is a very odd name for a book, but OK. The 
>> existence of a lock file from the 8th means that that's when you last 
>> successfully opened the file, and that the full name is "GNU FEB 12 
>> 2019.gnucash.20210219151108.gnucash.LCK" means that you've been working with 
>> a backup file since mid-afternoon on 19 February. The other two files aren't 
>> from GnuCash; perhaps they're download or cache files from your browser?
>> 
>> Navigate to the folder where "GNU FEB 12 
>> 2019.gnucash.20210219151108.gnucash.LCK" is and look for "GNU FEB 12 
>> 2019.gnucash", ", and files of the form "GNU FEB 12 
>> 2019.gnucash.20210219151108.gnucash.MMDDHHMMSS.gnucash" which will be 
>> backups of your GnuCash sessions since you opened the backup file instead of 
>> the original.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2021, at 7:13 AM, Mahon Finbar  wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, I appreciate that, thank you.
>>> 
>>> However, in trying to find the last backup file before uninstalling, I am 
>>> finding some very strange file dates and times in the list.
>>> 
>>> For example - gnucash.trace.3JC5Z0.log - on 14.3.2021 - a time when I could 
>>> not get the app to load, [with the same message as originally].
>>> 
>>> I don't seem to have any backups, which according to the help file should 
>>> read as .MMDDHHMMSS.gnucash
>>> 
>>> The 'latest' file in the list is GNU FEB 12 
>>> 2019.gnucash.20210219151108.gnucash.LCK on 8.3.2021 and I have several - 
>>> https___bugs_gnucash_org_enter_bug_cgi_product=GnuCash files on the same 
>>> date, as well as several - 
>>> {7C5A40EF-A0FB-4BFC-874A-C0F2E0B9FA8E}_gnucash_doc_gnucash_README_win32-bin_txt
>>>  files dated the same date, 8.3.2021.
>>> 
>>> The file names don't seem to align with the help file data.
>>> 
>>> Any ideas?
>>> 
>>> Thanks Finbar
>>> 
>>> On 13/03/2021 19:47, John Ralls wrote:
>>> 
 The important thing is to make sure that you don't restore an old version 
 of GnuCash dlls. The most straightforward way is to leave executables out 
 of the backup plan because you can always download them again from their 
 respective sources. A bit less simple is to have a separate backup set for 
 them so that you can easily roll back after an update or restore more 
 quickly after a disk failure.
 
 Regards,
 John Ralls
 
 
 
> On Mar 13, 2021, at 6:06 AM, Mahon Finbar 
>  wrote:
> 
> OK, I'll try that, thanks.
> 
> I have the most recent version for Windows 10, afaik. Haven't recently 
> downloaded any update and have been using the current version for a 
> while, like since last q 2020. Could be a storage glitch, I suppose.
> 
> Should I make a specific backup? I have backblaze for backup, but do I 
> need to ensure files are the latest?
> 
> Finbar
> 
> On 12/03/2021 21:08, John Ralls wrote:
> 
>> You don't say what version of GnuCash, but GnuCash 4.x renamed 
>> libgncmod-app-utils.dll to libgnc-app-utils.dll, so it seems that you 
>> have some leftover bits from an earlier installation. Try uninstalling 
>> GnuCash with Apps & Settings then delete the installation directory--it 
>> defaults to C:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash--before reinstalling GnuCash 
>> 4.4.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 12, 2021, at 3:20 AM, Mahon Finbar 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oops the screen grab didn't transfer -
>>

[GNC] Scheduled transaction frequency?

[gnu Gord]

I'm trying to add a scheduled transaction that occurs 21 days after the
10th of each month.
With this timing, the transaction does not occur on a specific date in the
month. Some months it's on the 31st and some months it's on the first of
the next month, ETC

I can't figure out how to enter that in GnuCash.
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled transaction frequency?

[Jean Laroche]

I'm not sure it's possible.

Jean

On 3/16/21 10:04 AM, gnu Gord wrote:

I'm trying to add a scheduled transaction that occurs 21 days after the
10th of each month.
With this timing, the transaction does not occur on a specific date in the
month. Some months it's on the 31st and some months it's on the first of
the next month, ETC

I can't figure out how to enter that in GnuCash.
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled transaction frequency?

[Derek Atkins]

I don't think you can do that with the current implementation.

-derek

On Tue, March 16, 2021 1:04 pm, gnu Gord wrote:
> I'm trying to add a scheduled transaction that occurs 21 days after the
> 10th of each month.
> With this timing, the transaction does not occur on a specific date in the
> month. Some months it's on the 31st and some months it's on the first of
> the next month, ETC
>
> I can't figure out how to enter that in GnuCash.
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled transaction frequency?

[Michael Hendry]

> On 16 Mar 2021, at 17:13, Derek Atkins  wrote:
> 
> I don't think you can do that with the current implementation.
> 
> -derek
> 

As a workaround, could you simply set up a monthly transaction for the last day 
of the month, or for the 3rd day of the month?

If it’s an expense you would use the former (to get early warning of money 
going out), and for income the latter (so you definitely don’t spend it too 
soon!).

You can always adjust the date later, if you really must have the dates aligned 
with the actual payments.

Regards,

Michael

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Re: [GNC] Importing Accounts with non-English Characters

[viking]

Liz wrote
> On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 03:31:34 -0500 (CDT)
> viking <

> viking2ev@.rr

> > wrote:
> 
>> Quite an old bug from 2017. Is there a workaround to be able to import
>> accounts with non-English characters?
>> 
>> I am also not able to /manually/ create a new account including
>> non-English characters. For example, the letter "å" can be typed here
>> by pressing "Alt-0229". However, it doesn't work when trying to type
>> this letter in the Account name for a New Account. 
>> Is this another bug?
> 
> Can you copy and paste the correct characters into place?
> 
> Liz

@Liz,
Yes. copy/paste works but not typing the character directly. I guess this is
a bug.



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Re: [GNC] Missing file messages when starting Gnucash

[avigr...@juno.com]

Thank you very much.  That seems to have worked. A sample of the "Entry point 
not found" error messages was for the file gnc_scrn_call_1_symbol_to_string

-- Original Message --
From: John Ralls 
To: avigr...@juno.com
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Missing file messages when starting Gnucash
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 08:42:35 -0700



> On Mar 16, 2021, at 6:54 AM, avigr...@juno.com wrote:
> 
> Version: 4.4
> Build ID: 4.4+(2020-12-28)Windows 10 When I start GnuCash, I am now receiving 
> a series of error messages telling me that I am missing a lot of files.  
> After I respond OK to all of the messages, it finally opens GnuCash and 
> everything appears to be okay.  How do I get rid of these error messages?

What files are missing?

As a first guess you have leftovers from a previous installation. Try 
uninstalling GnuCash using Apps & Features (right-click the Windows Start 
button, it's at the top of the menu), then navigate to C:\\Program Files (x86) 
in File Explorer and delete the gnucash folder. Finally re-run 
gnucash-4.4-setup.exe.

Regards,
John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] Importing Accounts with non-English Characters

[prl]

On 17/3/21 05:20, viking wrote:

Liz wrote

On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 03:31:34 -0500 (CDT)
viking <
viking2ev@.rr
> wrote:


Quite an old bug from 2017. Is there a workaround to be able to import
accounts with non-English characters?

I am also not able to /manually/ create a new account including
non-English characters. For example, the letter "å" can be typed here
by pressing "Alt-0229". However, it doesn't work when trying to type
this letter in the Account name for a New Account.
Is this another bug?

Can you copy and paste the correct characters into place?

Liz

@Liz,
Yes. copy/paste works but not typing the character directly. I guess this is
a bug.
I can't enter non-ACSII characters in the Account name in Gnucash 
4.4/MacOS 11.2.3 either (viking is having the issue on Windows GC 4.4). 
Normally on the Mac, OPTION-"u", "u" should enter ü (u-umlaut), but when 
I type the "u" after the OPTION-"u", a small text entry popup is 
displayed that covers the New Account popup's Help button, and a single 
"u" (without umlaut) appears in the text entry popup.


After that text entry popup appears, all text entry goes into that 
popup. The Cancel button on the New Account popup still works to get out 
of it.


Maybe GTK is grabbing the keyboard codes before the normal keyboard text 
entry processing is done on them.


Peter

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Re: [GNC] Importing Accounts with non-English Characters

[prl]

On 17/3/21 11:47, prl wrote:

On 17/3/21 05:20, viking wrote:

Liz wrote

On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 03:31:34 -0500 (CDT)
viking <
viking2ev@.rr
> wrote:


Quite an old bug from 2017. Is there a workaround to be able to import
accounts with non-English characters?

I am also not able to /manually/ create a new account including
non-English characters. For example, the letter "å" can be typed here
by pressing "Alt-0229". However, it doesn't work when trying to type
this letter in the Account name for a New Account.
Is this another bug?

Can you copy and paste the correct characters into place?

Liz

@Liz,
Yes. copy/paste works but not typing the character directly. I guess 
this is

a bug.
I can't enter non-ACSII characters in the Account name in Gnucash 
4.4/MacOS 11.2.3 either (viking is having the issue on Windows GC 
4.4). Normally on the Mac, OPTION-"u", "u" should enter ü (u-umlaut), 
but when I type the "u" after the OPTION-"u", a small text entry popup 
is displayed that covers the New Account popup's Help button, and a 
single "u" (without umlaut) appears in the text entry popup.


After that text entry popup appears, all text entry goes into that 
popup. The Cancel button on the New Account popup still works to get 
out of it.


Maybe GTK is grabbing the keyboard codes before the normal keyboard 
text entry processing is done on them.


Peter

Curiouser and curioser. If in MacOS GC 4.4, I type OPTION-"u", "u" into 
the little text entry popup that appears after I first enter OPTION-"u", 
"u", that does enter ü (u-umlaut) into the popup text box. However, 
there's something that causes the popup text box to time out, and 
there's no way I could find to get the text out of the popup text box 
and into the AccountName box, not even using copy-paste before the timeout.


Peter

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Re: [GNC] Scheduled transaction frequency?

[gnu Gord]

Thanks to all that replied.
I have set it up as 'last day of the month', that's one of the options,
because it is an expense. I'll have to remember, or better yet, add a
comment that says something like "change the date to the real date before
posting". It's not a huge problem but an interesting situation...

Thanks again,
Gord


On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 11:13 AM Michael Hendry 
wrote:

> > On 16 Mar 2021, at 17:13, Derek Atkins  wrote:
> >
> > I don't think you can do that with the current implementation.
> >
> > -derek
> >
>
> As a workaround, could you simply set up a monthly transaction for the
> last day of the month, or for the 3rd day of the month?
>
> If it’s an expense you would use the former (to get early warning of money
> going out), and for income the latter (so you definitely don’t spend it too
> soon!).
>
> You can always adjust the date later, if you really must have the dates
> aligned with the actual payments.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Importing Accounts with non-English Characters

[w...@theprescotts.com]

On MacOS, you can access all those special characters from the Keyboard menu. 
One of the tabs in the Keyboard System Preference has an option to 'Show Input 
menu in the menu bar'. Then from any app you can open up an 'Emoji and Symbol 
Viewer' that will allow you to insert any symbol or character anywhere.

Will

On 2021 Mar 16, at 03-16 19:02:36, prl  wrote:

On 17/3/21 11:47, prl wrote:
> On 17/3/21 05:20, viking wrote:
>> Liz wrote
>>> On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 03:31:34 -0500 (CDT)
>>> viking <
>>> viking2ev@.rr
>>> > wrote:
>>> 
 Quite an old bug from 2017. Is there a workaround to be able to import
 accounts with non-English characters?
 
 I am also not able to /manually/ create a new account including
 non-English characters. For example, the letter "å" can be typed here
 by pressing "Alt-0229". However, it doesn't work when trying to type
 this letter in the Account name for a New Account.
 Is this another bug?
>>> Can you copy and paste the correct characters into place?
>>> 
>>> Liz
>> @Liz,
>> Yes. copy/paste works but not typing the character directly. I guess this is
>> a bug.
> I can't enter non-ACSII characters in the Account name in Gnucash 4.4/MacOS 
> 11.2.3 either (viking is having the issue on Windows GC 4.4). Normally on the 
> Mac, OPTION-"u", "u" should enter ü (u-umlaut), but when I type the "u" after 
> the OPTION-"u", a small text entry popup is displayed that covers the New 
> Account popup's Help button, and a single "u" (without umlaut) appears in the 
> text entry popup.
> 
> After that text entry popup appears, all text entry goes into that popup. The 
> Cancel button on the New Account popup still works to get out of it.
> 
> Maybe GTK is grabbing the keyboard codes before the normal keyboard text 
> entry processing is done on them.
> 
> Peter
> 
Curiouser and curioser. If in MacOS GC 4.4, I type OPTION-"u", "u" into the 
little text entry popup that appears after I first enter OPTION-"u", "u", that 
does enter ü (u-umlaut) into the popup text box. However, there's something 
that causes the popup text box to time out, and there's no way I could find to 
get the text out of the popup text box and into the AccountName box, not even 
using copy-paste before the timeout.

Peter

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Re: [GNC] Scheduled transaction frequency?

[Peter West]

Can’t you set a complete calendar? 31st when it works, else 1st, else 2nd (to 
be on the safe side) in Feb, provided the 1 day early on 3 out of 4 Febs is not 
too big a problem.
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> On 17 Mar 2021, at 12:29 pm, gnu Gord  wrote:
> 
> Thanks to all that replied.
> I have set it up as 'last day of the month', that's one of the options,
> because it is an expense. I'll have to remember, or better yet, add a
> comment that says something like "change the date to the real date before
> posting". It's not a huge problem but an interesting situation...
> 
> Thanks again,
> Gord
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 11:13 AM Michael Hendry 
> wrote:
> 
>>> On 16 Mar 2021, at 17:13, Derek Atkins  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't think you can do that with the current implementation.
>>> 
>>> -derek
>>> 
>> 
>> As a workaround, could you simply set up a monthly transaction for the
>> last day of the month, or for the 3rd day of the month?
>> 
>> If it’s an expense you would use the former (to get early warning of money
>> going out), and for income the latter (so you definitely don’t spend it too
>> soon!).
>> 
>> You can always adjust the date later, if you really must have the dates
>> aligned with the actual payments.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> 
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Re: [GNC] Importing Accounts with non-English Characters

[John Ralls]

Looks like option is getting used as part of shortcuts, intercepting its use 
for extending the keyboard. Option-u-u opens that weird entry box and option-o 
operates the OK key. Option-e still works to create an accent-grave so it's 
just modifier key overloads. In the transfer dialog option-u-u makes a ü as it 
should, but option-o still operates the OK button.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Mar 16, 2021, at 7:39 PM, w...@theprescotts.com wrote:
> 
> On MacOS, you can access all those special characters from the Keyboard menu. 
> One of the tabs in the Keyboard System Preference has an option to 'Show 
> Input menu in the menu bar'. Then from any app you can open up an 'Emoji and 
> Symbol Viewer' that will allow you to insert any symbol or character anywhere.
> 
> Will
> 
> On 2021 Mar 16, at 03-16 19:02:36, prl  wrote:
> 
> On 17/3/21 11:47, prl wrote:
>> On 17/3/21 05:20, viking wrote:
>>> Liz wrote
 On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 03:31:34 -0500 (CDT)
 viking <
 viking2ev@.rr
 > wrote:
 
> Quite an old bug from 2017. Is there a workaround to be able to import
> accounts with non-English characters?
> 
> I am also not able to /manually/ create a new account including
> non-English characters. For example, the letter "å" can be typed here
> by pressing "Alt-0229". However, it doesn't work when trying to type
> this letter in the Account name for a New Account.
> Is this another bug?
 Can you copy and paste the correct characters into place?
 
 Liz
>>> @Liz,
>>> Yes. copy/paste works but not typing the character directly. I guess this is
>>> a bug.
>> I can't enter non-ACSII characters in the Account name in Gnucash 4.4/MacOS 
>> 11.2.3 either (viking is having the issue on Windows GC 4.4). Normally on 
>> the Mac, OPTION-"u", "u" should enter ü (u-umlaut), but when I type the "u" 
>> after the OPTION-"u", a small text entry popup is displayed that covers the 
>> New Account popup's Help button, and a single "u" (without umlaut) appears 
>> in the text entry popup.
>> 
>> After that text entry popup appears, all text entry goes into that popup. 
>> The Cancel button on the New Account popup still works to get out of it.
>> 
>> Maybe GTK is grabbing the keyboard codes before the normal keyboard text 
>> entry processing is done on them.
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
> Curiouser and curioser. If in MacOS GC 4.4, I type OPTION-"u", "u" into the 
> little text entry popup that appears after I first enter OPTION-"u", "u", 
> that does enter ü (u-umlaut) into the popup text box. However, there's 
> something that causes the popup text box to time out, and there's no way I 
> could find to get the text out of the popup text box and into the AccountName 
> box, not even using copy-paste before the timeout.
> 
> Peter
> 
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Re: [GNC] Importing Accounts with non-English Characters

[prl]

On 17/3/21 13:39, w...@theprescotts.com wrote:

On MacOS, you can access all those special characters from the Keyboard menu. 
One of the tabs in the Keyboard System Preference has an option to 'Show Input 
menu in the menu bar'. Then from any app you can open up an 'Emoji and Symbol 
Viewer' that will allow you to insert any symbol or character anywhere.

Will


Did you try that with New Account / Account Name GnuCash? I just did, 
and for me it does exactly the same as entering the same thing using 
keystrokes.


Peter

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