[GNC] 4.4 slow

[R. Victor Klassen]

So I finally decided to upgrade from 2.6.21, and downloaded 4.4 for Mac. I had 
read something about faster startup times.  

Well I am unconvinced about that part.  But worse still, it regularly has long 
delays when entering lines in an invoice or posting it. 

I think I would have heard lots of complaints by now if this were common.  
Wondering what might be up with this. 

Mac OS 10.13.6. 
Gnucash version 4.4+ (2020-12-28)

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Re: [GNC] 4.4 slow

[David Reiser via gnucash-user]

My memory is a bit fuzzy, but version 4 made some significant changes to (I 
think) a number of key-value structures in the database. The first time you 
open version 4, it has to convert all the old values (if you have done lots of 
transaction importing, that’s a big contributor). If you quit gnucash before 
it’s done with the conversion, it  has to start over the next time. I think it 
took something like 45 minutes before my Mac was done updating everything 
internally in the database. 

After that it has been fine.
--
Dave Reiser
dbrei...@icloud.com





> On Feb 5, 2021, at 11:01 AM, R. Victor Klassen  wrote:
> 
> So I finally decided to upgrade from 2.6.21, and downloaded 4.4 for Mac. I 
> had read something about faster startup times.  
> 
> Well I am unconvinced about that part.  But worse still, it regularly has 
> long delays when entering lines in an invoice or posting it. 
> 
> I think I would have heard lots of complaints by now if this were common.  
> Wondering what might be up with this. 
> 
> Mac OS 10.13.6. 
> Gnucash version 4.4+ (2020-12-28)
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [GNC] 4.4 slow

[Adrien Monteleone]

Hard to say for sure. I'll add that I'm using 4.4 on 10.15.7 (Catalina) 
with very reasonable if not snappy performance. I certainly haven't 
noticed any lags. (I use it daily)


Regards,
Adrien

On 2/5/21 10:01 AM, R. Victor Klassen wrote:

So I finally decided to upgrade from 2.6.21, and downloaded 4.4 for Mac. I had 
read something about faster startup times.

Well I am unconvinced about that part.  But worse still, it regularly has long 
delays when entering lines in an invoice or posting it.

I think I would have heard lots of complaints by now if this were common.  
Wondering what might be up with this.

Mac OS 10.13.6.
Gnucash version 4.4+ (2020-12-28)


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Re: [GNC] 4.4 slow

[Adrien Monteleone]

And on that note, it is always recommended when stepping between major 
versions to run Actions > Check & Repair > Check & Repair All. (which 
should accomplish such data translations all in one go)


I forgot to add that I'm using the SQLite backend. Not sure if that 
makes a difference.


Regards,
Adrien

On 2/5/21 10:28 AM, David Reiser via gnucash-user wrote:

My memory is a bit fuzzy, but version 4 made some significant changes to (I 
think) a number of key-value structures in the database. The first time you 
open version 4, it has to convert all the old values (if you have done lots of 
transaction importing, that’s a big contributor). If you quit gnucash before 
it’s done with the conversion, it  has to start over the next time. I think it 
took something like 45 minutes before my Mac was done updating everything 
internally in the database.

After that it has been fine.


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Re: [GNC] Receivable Aging Report no longer lets you select receivables account in gnucash 4.4

[Adrien Monteleone]

Phil,

The report was completely re-written Summer '19 and made it into the 
Experimental menu in October. I think by early '20 it finally replaced 
the originals. (AR and AP)


You should no longer need that option. (and it didn't work right anyway)

If you have vendors or customers with different currencies, they should 
all be visible and separated by currency.


See Christopher's write-up which includes a sample screenshot of what to 
expect: https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/538


Regards,
Adrien

On 2/3/21 6:47 PM, Phil Diacono wrote:

Hi team,

I have separate Accounts Receivable accounts for separate currencies. In
the past (v3.11?) when I ran the Receivable Aging report, I could click
on the "cog" icon (options) and select the receivables account at the
bottom of the pop-up. However with version 4.4, I don't get this option.
  Am I missing something / any suggestions?


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Re: [GNC] RUNNING BALANCES

[Adrien Monteleone]

I have noticed it, and that was exactly what I wanted, the balance of 
the *account* as of those transactions, that is, a 'balance forward' 
type situation at the beginning.


To be clear, you want a running balance of the transactions, starting 
from zero, not the actual account balance as of those transactions?


There might be a way to get it fiddling with various reports or 
settings, but if you can't find it or it doesn't exist, you can always 
export to a spreadsheet (leaving that column off initially) and popping 
in a Balance column filled with the proper formula.


A really bad idea, but doable, would be to create a reversing 
transaction the date before your filter to zero the account. Just don't 
forget to remove it when you are done! (maybe assign it to Imbalance or 
Orphan so it will stand out)


Regards,
Adrien

On 1/20/21 8:59 AM, davidbrown.r...@photos.bozeat.biz wrote:

Wed 20th Jan

Having set up a Transaction report and a General Ledger report, I note in the options 
under the DISPLAY TAB there is a check box to enable a "Running Balance".

Under the Options GENERAL TAB I have my Start and End dates chosen as the "Start of Accounting 
period" and "End of Accounting period".

In the figures shown in the resulting table of the Running Balance the totals 
show for the few years in the file, and not the date filtered amounts for the 
accounting year.

Has anyone noticed this?


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Re: [GNC] 4.4 slow

[R. Victor Klassen]

I should also say I’m using the SQLite back end. 90% or more of what I do 
passes though the business features. When I say entering an invoice line is 
slow I mean that when I hit tab to get past the last entry and start a new one 
I sometimes see the spinning lollipop. 

Trying check and repair to see if it makes a difference 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 5, 2021, at 11:41 AM, Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> 
> And on that note, it is always recommended when stepping between major 
> versions to run Actions > Check & Repair > Check & Repair All. (which should 
> accomplish such data translations all in one go)
> 
> I forgot to add that I'm using the SQLite backend. Not sure if that makes a 
> difference.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
>> On 2/5/21 10:28 AM, David Reiser via gnucash-user wrote:
>> My memory is a bit fuzzy, but version 4 made some significant changes to (I 
>> think) a number of key-value structures in the database. The first time you 
>> open version 4, it has to convert all the old values (if you have done lots 
>> of transaction importing, that’s a big contributor). If you quit gnucash 
>> before it’s done with the conversion, it  has to start over the next time. I 
>> think it took something like 45 minutes before my Mac was done updating 
>> everything internally in the database.
>> After that it has been fine.
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Re: [GNC] 4.4 slow

[Adrien Monteleone]

Something definitely wrong there. Hopefully Check & Repair will resolve 
it, otherwise, you have a puzzle to solve.


Regards,
Adrien

On 2/5/21 11:57 AM, R. Victor Klassen wrote:

I should also say I’m using the SQLite back end. 90% or more of what I do 
passes though the business features. When I say entering an invoice line is 
slow I mean that when I hit tab to get past the last entry and start a new one 
I sometimes see the spinning lollipop.

Trying check and repair to see if it makes a difference


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Re: [GNC] 4.4 slow

[Adrien Monteleone]

Is the file local (on the same drive as GnuCash)?

Spinning HD or SSD?

Regards,
Adrien

On 2/5/21 11:57 AM, R. Victor Klassen wrote:

I should also say I’m using the SQLite back end. 90% or more of what I do 
passes though the business features. When I say entering an invoice line is 
slow I mean that when I hit tab to get past the last entry and start a new one 
I sometimes see the spinning lollipop.

Trying check and repair to see if it makes a difference


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Re: [GNC] 4.4 slow

[John Ralls]

Does it beachball long enough to get a process sample out of Activity Monitor? 
Better yet, do you know your way around Xcode well enough to get a time profile?

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Feb 5, 2021, at 9:57 AM, R. Victor Klassen  wrote:
> 
> I should also say I’m using the SQLite back end. 90% or more of what I do 
> passes though the business features. When I say entering an invoice line is 
> slow I mean that when I hit tab to get past the last entry and start a new 
> one I sometimes see the spinning lollipop. 
> 
> Trying check and repair to see if it makes a difference 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 5, 2021, at 11:41 AM, Adrien Monteleone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> And on that note, it is always recommended when stepping between major 
>> versions to run Actions > Check & Repair > Check & Repair All. (which should 
>> accomplish such data translations all in one go)
>> 
>> I forgot to add that I'm using the SQLite backend. Not sure if that makes a 
>> difference.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> 
>>> On 2/5/21 10:28 AM, David Reiser via gnucash-user wrote:
>>> My memory is a bit fuzzy, but version 4 made some significant changes to (I 
>>> think) a number of key-value structures in the database. The first time you 
>>> open version 4, it has to convert all the old values (if you have done lots 
>>> of transaction importing, that’s a big contributor). If you quit gnucash 
>>> before it’s done with the conversion, it  has to start over the next time. 
>>> I think it took something like 45 minutes before my Mac was done updating 
>>> everything internally in the database.
>>> After that it has been fine.
>> 
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Re: [GNC] 4.4 slow

[R. Victor Klassen]

It definitely does beachball long enough. 

Might be able to get a profile. 

It’s been in check and repair for a bit over 2 hrs now so I am guessing any 
further probing will be Monday.  For what It’s worth it was in excess of 7 
minutes of CPU time last time I started (from a crash).  Minimal disk activity. 
Reasonable memory pressure 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 5, 2021, at 1:57 PM, John Ralls  wrote:
> 
> Does it beachball long enough to get a process sample out of Activity 
> Monitor? Better yet, do you know your way around Xcode well enough to get a 
> time profile?
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
>> On Feb 5, 2021, at 9:57 AM, R. Victor Klassen  wrote:
>> 
>> I should also say I’m using the SQLite back end. 90% or more of what I do 
>> passes though the business features. When I say entering an invoice line is 
>> slow I mean that when I hit tab to get past the last entry and start a new 
>> one I sometimes see the spinning lollipop. 
>> 
>> Trying check and repair to see if it makes a difference 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Feb 5, 2021, at 11:41 AM, Adrien Monteleone 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> And on that note, it is always recommended when stepping between major 
>>> versions to run Actions > Check & Repair > Check & Repair All. (which 
>>> should accomplish such data translations all in one go)
>>> 
>>> I forgot to add that I'm using the SQLite backend. Not sure if that makes a 
>>> difference.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Adrien
>>> 
 On 2/5/21 10:28 AM, David Reiser via gnucash-user wrote:
 My memory is a bit fuzzy, but version 4 made some significant changes to 
 (I think) a number of key-value structures in the database. The first time 
 you open version 4, it has to convert all the old values (if you have done 
 lots of transaction importing, that’s a big contributor). If you quit 
 gnucash before it’s done with the conversion, it  has to start over the 
 next time. I think it took something like 45 minutes before my Mac was 
 done updating everything internally in the database.
 After that it has been fine.
>>> 
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[GNC] installling online quotes in Windows 10

[David Carlson]

I just tried to install online quotes for GnuCash 4.4 in Win10 home.  It
failed to install Strawberry Perl because it did not have permission to
install programs.
So then I tried to run the installer with administrator privileges and it
failed because it could not access the internet (?) though web browsers
have no such issue.

There is no help for these issues in the GnuCash WIKi.  From time to time a
similar problem has appeared in this list but I thought the users got
farther than I am getting before getting stuck.


David Carlson
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?

[Christina Martin]

FWIW for about the last 18 months to 2 years, mine will tell me on start up 
that it has created x number of scheduled txns. I can see the change in 
value in the register but not the actual txn. They didn't seem to actually 
display until something else happened and I could never figure out what the 
something else was. My work around is to start it, allow the scheduled txns 
to run, save it and close gnucash. When I reopen, everything is happy. Yes 
it's tiresome but it's working for me. I can't recall if this started 
occurring before the upgrade to 4.xx or not.


Regards,
Christina

Message: 1
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 16:00:59 -0500
From: "Derek Atkins" 
To: "Jack Slater" 
Cc: "John Ralls" , gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?
Message-ID:
<19e311e6378fc91d60db8677af984288.squir...@mail2.ihtfp.org>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8

Do you have the SX set up to notify you on creation?  If not, it could
create without telling you.

-derek


On Thu, February 4, 2021 3:36 pm, Jack Slater wrote:

Started it.

Last Run Window did pop up and showed nothing. Closed it.

No variables included.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 2:11 PM John Ralls  wrote:


When you say you opened GnuCash, does that mean that you started it? Or
has it been running since before 2 February and you switched to its
window?

If the former, when you started it for the first time did the Since Last
Run window come up, what did it say about that transaction, and what did
you do? Does the scheduled transaction have a variable that requires
user
input?

Regards,
John Ralls


On Feb 4, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Jack Slater 

wrote:


It should be listed in the register for sure regardless and I have not
deleted it.  I simply opened GnuC and looked and its not there.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 12:42 PM Jean Laroche  wrote:


I think if you set it up to create x days in advance, when the
transaction is created, the "last occurrence" is set to the day of

the

transaction (no to the day it was created). So that would explain why
you see "Last occurrence 2/5/21".

Is it possible that you somehow deleted the occurrence that was

created?


J.

On 2/4/21 10:19 AM, Jack Slater wrote:

Today is 2/4/21.
Transaction scheduled for the 5th of every month.
Looking at Scheduled Transactions, it reads Last Occurance 2/5/21.
Transaction options are set to Create Automatically and Create 3

days
in

advance.
No transaction listed in register.

Seems pretty illogical to me. What am I missing?
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?

[Jack Slater]

Interesting. Sure seems like a bug to me.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 3:38 PM Christina Martin 
wrote:

> FWIW for about the last 18 months to 2 years, mine will tell me on start
> up
> that it has created x number of scheduled txns. I can see the change in
> value in the register but not the actual txn. They didn't seem to actually
> display until something else happened and I could never figure out what
> the
> something else was. My work around is to start it, allow the scheduled
> txns
> to run, save it and close gnucash. When I reopen, everything is happy. Yes
> it's tiresome but it's working for me. I can't recall if this started
> occurring before the upgrade to 4.xx or not.
>
> Regards,
> Christina
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 16:00:59 -0500
> > From: "Derek Atkins" 
> > To: "Jack Slater" 
> > Cc: "John Ralls" , gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> > Subject: Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?
> > Message-ID:
> > <19e311e6378fc91d60db8677af984288.squir...@mail2.ihtfp.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
> >
> > Do you have the SX set up to notify you on creation?  If not, it could
> > create without telling you.
> >
> > -derek
> >
> >
> > On Thu, February 4, 2021 3:36 pm, Jack Slater wrote:
> >> Started it.
> >>
> >> Last Run Window did pop up and showed nothing. Closed it.
> >>
> >> No variables included.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 2:11 PM John Ralls  wrote:
> >>
> >>> When you say you opened GnuCash, does that mean that you started it? Or
> >>> has it been running since before 2 February and you switched to its
> >>> window?
> >>>
> >>> If the former, when you started it for the first time did the Since
> Last
> >>> Run window come up, what did it say about that transaction, and what
> did
> >>> you do? Does the scheduled transaction have a variable that requires
> >>> user
> >>> input?
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> John Ralls
> >>>
>  On Feb 4, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Jack Slater 
> >>> wrote:
> 
>  It should be listed in the register for sure regardless and I have not
>  deleted it.  I simply opened GnuC and looked and its not there.
> 
>  On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 12:42 PM Jean Laroche 
> wrote:
> 
> > I think if you set it up to create x days in advance, when the
> > transaction is created, the "last occurrence" is set to the day of
> >>> the
> > transaction (no to the day it was created). So that would explain why
> > you see "Last occurrence 2/5/21".
> >
> > Is it possible that you somehow deleted the occurrence that was
> >>> created?
> >
> > J.
> >
> > On 2/4/21 10:19 AM, Jack Slater wrote:
> >> Today is 2/4/21.
> >> Transaction scheduled for the 5th of every month.
> >> Looking at Scheduled Transactions, it reads Last Occurance 2/5/21.
> >> Transaction options are set to Create Automatically and Create 3
> >>> days
> >>> in
> >> advance.
> >> No transaction listed in register.
> >>
> >> Seems pretty illogical to me. What am I missing?
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?

[Jean Laroche]

This is very strange, if you could do a simple repro, step by step, I 
could take a look at it.

It definitely looks like a bug.

Jean


On 2/5/21 1:54 PM, Jack Slater wrote:

Interesting. Sure seems like a bug to me.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 3:38 PM Christina Martin 
wrote:


FWIW for about the last 18 months to 2 years, mine will tell me on start
up
that it has created x number of scheduled txns. I can see the change in
value in the register but not the actual txn. They didn't seem to actually
display until something else happened and I could never figure out what
the
something else was. My work around is to start it, allow the scheduled
txns
to run, save it and close gnucash. When I reopen, everything is happy. Yes
it's tiresome but it's working for me. I can't recall if this started
occurring before the upgrade to 4.xx or not.

Regards,
Christina

Message: 1
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 16:00:59 -0500
From: "Derek Atkins" 
To: "Jack Slater" 
Cc: "John Ralls" , gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?
Message-ID:
<19e311e6378fc91d60db8677af984288.squir...@mail2.ihtfp.org>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8

Do you have the SX set up to notify you on creation?  If not, it could
create without telling you.

-derek


On Thu, February 4, 2021 3:36 pm, Jack Slater wrote:

Started it.

Last Run Window did pop up and showed nothing. Closed it.

No variables included.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 2:11 PM John Ralls  wrote:


When you say you opened GnuCash, does that mean that you started it? Or
has it been running since before 2 February and you switched to its
window?

If the former, when you started it for the first time did the Since

Last

Run window come up, what did it say about that transaction, and what

did

you do? Does the scheduled transaction have a variable that requires
user
input?

Regards,
John Ralls


On Feb 4, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Jack Slater 

wrote:

It should be listed in the register for sure regardless and I have not
deleted it.  I simply opened GnuC and looked and its not there.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 12:42 PM Jean Laroche 

wrote:

I think if you set it up to create x days in advance, when the
transaction is created, the "last occurrence" is set to the day of

the

transaction (no to the day it was created). So that would explain why
you see "Last occurrence 2/5/21".

Is it possible that you somehow deleted the occurrence that was

created?

J.

On 2/4/21 10:19 AM, Jack Slater wrote:

Today is 2/4/21.
Transaction scheduled for the 5th of every month.
Looking at Scheduled Transactions, it reads Last Occurance 2/5/21.
Transaction options are set to Create Automatically and Create 3

days
in

advance.
No transaction listed in register.

Seems pretty illogical to me. What am I missing?
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?

[Adrien Monteleone]

Be sure for each transaction you want to see, you have the 'Notify me 
when created' check box marked.


Then when the Since Last Run dialog pops up on starting GnuCash (or 
manually run) there is a checkbox at the bottom of that window to 
"Review created transactions". Check it, then click the OK button.


You will get a register view with each transaction that was listed as 
'created' in the Since Last Run dialog.


Works for me every time.

Regards,
Adrien

On 2/5/21 3:38 PM, Christina Martin wrote:
FWIW for about the last 18 months to 2 years, mine will tell me on start 
up that it has created x number of scheduled txns. I can see the change 
in value in the register but not the actual txn. They didn't seem to 
actually display until something else happened and I could never figure 
out what the something else was. My work around is to start it, allow 
the scheduled txns to run, save it and close gnucash. When I reopen, 
everything is happy. Yes it's tiresome but it's working for me. I can't 
recall if this started occurring before the upgrade to 4.xx or not.


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Re: [GNC] installling online quotes in Windows 10

[Geoff]

Hi David

Have a read of this thread:

http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GNC-Configuring-Automatic-Retrieval-Quotes-error-tc4723859.html

You may need to do the installs running as Administrator.

Regards

Geoff
=

On 6/02/2021 7:38 am, David Carlson wrote:

I just tried to install online quotes for GnuCash 4.4 in Win10 home.  It
failed to install Strawberry Perl because it did not have permission to
install programs.
So then I tried to run the installer with administrator privileges and it
failed because it could not access the internet (?) though web browsers
have no such issue.

There is no help for these issues in the GnuCash WIKi.  From time to time a
similar problem has appeared in this list but I thought the users got
farther than I am getting before getting stuck.


David Carlson
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?

[Jean Laroche]

But it's a bug that you have to go through these steps, right? (i.e., 
that they don't show in the register unless you close GC then open it 
again).


On 2/5/21 2:04 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
Be sure for each transaction you want to see, you have the 'Notify me 
when created' check box marked.


Then when the Since Last Run dialog pops up on starting GnuCash (or 
manually run) there is a checkbox at the bottom of that window to 
"Review created transactions". Check it, then click the OK button.


You will get a register view with each transaction that was listed as 
'created' in the Since Last Run dialog.


Works for me every time.

Regards,
Adrien

On 2/5/21 3:38 PM, Christina Martin wrote:
FWIW for about the last 18 months to 2 years, mine will tell me on 
start up that it has created x number of scheduled txns. I can see 
the change in value in the register but not the actual txn. They 
didn't seem to actually display until something else happened and I 
could never figure out what the something else was. My work around is 
to start it, allow the scheduled txns to run, save it and close 
gnucash. When I reopen, everything is happy. Yes it's tiresome but 
it's working for me. I can't recall if this started occurring before 
the upgrade to 4.xx or not.


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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?

[Jack Slater]

I doubt I can reproduce since I'm sure the dates and settings contribute to
the error.  I'm guessing that if I start GnuC now it will be there.  I
think the  bug isi in the timing with the date and lead time. My specific
actions/results are in my first email.



On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 4:02 PM Jean Laroche  wrote:

> This is very strange, if you could do a simple repro, step by step, I
> could take a look at it.
> It definitely looks like a bug.
>
> Jean
>
>
> On 2/5/21 1:54 PM, Jack Slater wrote:
> > Interesting. Sure seems like a bug to me.
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 3:38 PM Christina Martin <
> christ...@airgeadstudio.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> FWIW for about the last 18 months to 2 years, mine will tell me on start
> >> up
> >> that it has created x number of scheduled txns. I can see the change in
> >> value in the register but not the actual txn. They didn't seem to
> actually
> >> display until something else happened and I could never figure out what
> >> the
> >> something else was. My work around is to start it, allow the scheduled
> >> txns
> >> to run, save it and close gnucash. When I reopen, everything is happy.
> Yes
> >> it's tiresome but it's working for me. I can't recall if this started
> >> occurring before the upgrade to 4.xx or not.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Christina
> >>> Message: 1
> >>> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 16:00:59 -0500
> >>> From: "Derek Atkins" 
> >>> To: "Jack Slater" 
> >>> Cc: "John Ralls" , gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>> <19e311e6378fc91d60db8677af984288.squir...@mail2.ihtfp.org>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
> >>>
> >>> Do you have the SX set up to notify you on creation?  If not, it could
> >>> create without telling you.
> >>>
> >>> -derek
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, February 4, 2021 3:36 pm, Jack Slater wrote:
>  Started it.
> 
>  Last Run Window did pop up and showed nothing. Closed it.
> 
>  No variables included.
> 
>  On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 2:11 PM John Ralls  wrote:
> 
> > When you say you opened GnuCash, does that mean that you started it?
> Or
> > has it been running since before 2 February and you switched to its
> > window?
> >
> > If the former, when you started it for the first time did the Since
> >> Last
> > Run window come up, what did it say about that transaction, and what
> >> did
> > you do? Does the scheduled transaction have a variable that requires
> > user
> > input?
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
> >
> >> On Feb 4, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Jack Slater 
> > wrote:
> >> It should be listed in the register for sure regardless and I have
> not
> >> deleted it.  I simply opened GnuC and looked and its not there.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 12:42 PM Jean Laroche 
> >> wrote:
> >>> I think if you set it up to create x days in advance, when the
> >>> transaction is created, the "last occurrence" is set to the day of
> > the
> >>> transaction (no to the day it was created). So that would explain
> why
> >>> you see "Last occurrence 2/5/21".
> >>>
> >>> Is it possible that you somehow deleted the occurrence that was
> > created?
> >>> J.
> >>>
> >>> On 2/4/21 10:19 AM, Jack Slater wrote:
>  Today is 2/4/21.
>  Transaction scheduled for the 5th of every month.
>  Looking at Scheduled Transactions, it reads Last Occurance 2/5/21.
>  Transaction options are set to Create Automatically and Create 3
> > days
> > in
>  advance.
>  No transaction listed in register.
> 
>  Seems pretty illogical to me. What am I missing?
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?

[Jack Slater]

Why would I want to have to perform another task for a scheduled
transaction? Seems redundant to me. Better to fix the problem it seems to
me unless I'm totally missing something.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 4:05 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> Be sure for each transaction you want to see, you have the 'Notify me
> when created' check box marked.
>
> Then when the Since Last Run dialog pops up on starting GnuCash (or
> manually run) there is a checkbox at the bottom of that window to
> "Review created transactions". Check it, then click the OK button.
>
> You will get a register view with each transaction that was listed as
> 'created' in the Since Last Run dialog.
>
> Works for me every time.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 2/5/21 3:38 PM, Christina Martin wrote:
> > FWIW for about the last 18 months to 2 years, mine will tell me on start
> > up that it has created x number of scheduled txns. I can see the change
> > in value in the register but not the actual txn. They didn't seem to
> > actually display until something else happened and I could never figure
> > out what the something else was. My work around is to start it, allow
> > the scheduled txns to run, save it and close gnucash. When I reopen,
> > everything is happy. Yes it's tiresome but it's working for me. I can't
> > recall if this started occurring before the upgrade to 4.xx or not.
>
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?

[Jean Laroche]

Can you describe how your scheduled trans is setup? x days in advance? 
enter automatically? On the nth of the month or specific date?

Any info to help repro the problem.

Jean

On 2/5/21 2:08 PM, Jack Slater wrote:
I doubt I can reproduce since I'm sure the dates and settings 
contribute to the error.  I'm guessing that if I start GnuC now it 
will be there.  I think the  bug isi in the timing with the date and 
lead time. My specific actions/results are in my first email.




On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 4:02 PM Jean Laroche > wrote:


This is very strange, if you could do a simple repro, step by step, I
could take a look at it.
It definitely looks like a bug.

Jean


On 2/5/21 1:54 PM, Jack Slater wrote:
> Interesting. Sure seems like a bug to me.
>
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 3:38 PM Christina Martin
mailto:christ...@airgeadstudio.net>>
> wrote:
>
>> FWIW for about the last 18 months to 2 years, mine will tell me
on start
>> up
>> that it has created x number of scheduled txns. I can see the
change in
>> value in the register but not the actual txn. They didn't seem
to actually
>> display until something else happened and I could never figure
out what
>> the
>> something else was. My work around is to start it, allow the
scheduled
>> txns
>> to run, save it and close gnucash. When I reopen, everything is
happy. Yes
>> it's tiresome but it's working for me. I can't recall if this
started
>> occurring before the upgrade to 4.xx or not.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Christina
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 16:00:59 -0500
>>> From: "Derek Atkins" mailto:de...@ihtfp.com>>
>>> To: "Jack Slater" mailto:theillini...@gmail.com>>
>>> Cc: "John Ralls" mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us>>, gnucash-user@gnucash.org

>>> Subject: Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <19e311e6378fc91d60db8677af984288.squir...@mail2.ihtfp.org
>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
>>>
>>> Do you have the SX set up to notify you on creation?  If not,
it could
>>> create without telling you.
>>>
>>> -derek
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, February 4, 2021 3:36 pm, Jack Slater wrote:
 Started it.

 Last Run Window did pop up and showed nothing. Closed it.

 No variables included.

 On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 2:11 PM John Ralls mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us>> wrote:

> When you say you opened GnuCash, does that mean that you
started it? Or
> has it been running since before 2 February and you switched
to its
> window?
>
> If the former, when you started it for the first time did
the Since
>> Last
> Run window come up, what did it say about that transaction,
and what
>> did
> you do? Does the scheduled transaction have a variable that
requires
> user
> input?
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>> On Feb 4, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Jack Slater
mailto:theillini...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>> It should be listed in the register for sure regardless and
I have not
>> deleted it.  I simply opened GnuC and looked and its not there.
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 12:42 PM Jean Laroche
mailto:rip...@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>> I think if you set it up to create x days in advance, when the
>>> transaction is created, the "last occurrence" is set to
the day of
> the
>>> transaction (no to the day it was created). So that would
explain why
>>> you see "Last occurrence 2/5/21".
>>>
>>> Is it possible that you somehow deleted the occurrence
that was
> created?
>>> J.
>>>
>>> On 2/4/21 10:19 AM, Jack Slater wrote:
 Today is 2/4/21.
 Transaction scheduled for the 5th of every month.
 Looking at Scheduled Transactions, it reads Last
Occurance 2/5/21.
 Transaction options are set to Create Automatically and
Create 3
> days
> in
 advance.
 No transaction listed in register.

 Seems pretty illogical to me. What am I missing?
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?

[Jack Slater]

Agree.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 4:08 PM Jean Laroche  wrote:

> But it's a bug that you have to go through these steps, right? (i.e.,
> that they don't show in the register unless you close GC then open it
> again).
>
> On 2/5/21 2:04 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
> > Be sure for each transaction you want to see, you have the 'Notify me
> > when created' check box marked.
> >
> > Then when the Since Last Run dialog pops up on starting GnuCash (or
> > manually run) there is a checkbox at the bottom of that window to
> > "Review created transactions". Check it, then click the OK button.
> >
> > You will get a register view with each transaction that was listed as
> > 'created' in the Since Last Run dialog.
> >
> > Works for me every time.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> >
> > On 2/5/21 3:38 PM, Christina Martin wrote:
> >> FWIW for about the last 18 months to 2 years, mine will tell me on
> >> start up that it has created x number of scheduled txns. I can see
> >> the change in value in the register but not the actual txn. They
> >> didn't seem to actually display until something else happened and I
> >> could never figure out what the something else was. My work around is
> >> to start it, allow the scheduled txns to run, save it and close
> >> gnucash. When I reopen, everything is happy. Yes it's tiresome but
> >> it's working for me. I can't recall if this started occurring before
> >> the upgrade to 4.xx or not.
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?

[Jack Slater]

This is my original post (at bottom of this thread)

Today is 2/4/21.
Transaction scheduled for the 5th of every month.
Looking at Scheduled Transactions, it reads Last Occurance 2/5/21.
Transaction options are set to Create Automatically and Create 3 days
in advance.
No transaction listed in register.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 4:11 PM Jean Laroche  wrote:

> Can you describe how your scheduled trans is setup? x days in advance?
> enter automatically? On the nth of the month or specific date?
> Any info to help repro the problem.
>
> Jean
>
> On 2/5/21 2:08 PM, Jack Slater wrote:
> > I doubt I can reproduce since I'm sure the dates and settings
> > contribute to the error.  I'm guessing that if I start GnuC now it
> > will be there.  I think the  bug isi in the timing with the date and
> > lead time. My specific actions/results are in my first email.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 4:02 PM Jean Laroche  > > wrote:
> >
> > This is very strange, if you could do a simple repro, step by step, I
> > could take a look at it.
> > It definitely looks like a bug.
> >
> > Jean
> >
> >
> > On 2/5/21 1:54 PM, Jack Slater wrote:
> > > Interesting. Sure seems like a bug to me.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 3:38 PM Christina Martin
> > mailto:christ...@airgeadstudio.net>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> FWIW for about the last 18 months to 2 years, mine will tell me
> > on start
> > >> up
> > >> that it has created x number of scheduled txns. I can see the
> > change in
> > >> value in the register but not the actual txn. They didn't seem
> > to actually
> > >> display until something else happened and I could never figure
> > out what
> > >> the
> > >> something else was. My work around is to start it, allow the
> > scheduled
> > >> txns
> > >> to run, save it and close gnucash. When I reopen, everything is
> > happy. Yes
> > >> it's tiresome but it's working for me. I can't recall if this
> > started
> > >> occurring before the upgrade to 4.xx or not.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Christina
> > >>> Message: 1
> > >>> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 16:00:59 -0500
> > >>> From: "Derek Atkins" mailto:de...@ihtfp.com>>
> > >>> To: "Jack Slater"  > >
> > >>> Cc: "John Ralls"  > >, gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> > 
> > >>> Subject: Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?
> > >>> Message-ID:
> > >>> <19e311e6378fc91d60db8677af984288.squir...@mail2.ihtfp.org
> > >
> > >>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
> > >>>
> > >>> Do you have the SX set up to notify you on creation?  If not,
> > it could
> > >>> create without telling you.
> > >>>
> > >>> -derek
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, February 4, 2021 3:36 pm, Jack Slater wrote:
> >  Started it.
> > 
> >  Last Run Window did pop up and showed nothing. Closed it.
> > 
> >  No variables included.
> > 
> >  On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 2:11 PM John Ralls  > > wrote:
> > 
> > > When you say you opened GnuCash, does that mean that you
> > started it? Or
> > > has it been running since before 2 February and you switched
> > to its
> > > window?
> > >
> > > If the former, when you started it for the first time did
> > the Since
> > >> Last
> > > Run window come up, what did it say about that transaction,
> > and what
> > >> did
> > > you do? Does the scheduled transaction have a variable that
> > requires
> > > user
> > > input?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > John Ralls
> > >
> > >> On Feb 4, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Jack Slater
> > mailto:theillini...@gmail.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > >> It should be listed in the register for sure regardless and
> > I have not
> > >> deleted it.  I simply opened GnuC and looked and its not
> there.
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 12:42 PM Jean Laroche
> > mailto:rip...@gmail.com>>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>> I think if you set it up to create x days in advance, when
> the
> > >>> transaction is created, the "last occurrence" is set to
> > the day of
> > > the
> > >>> transaction (no to the day it was created). So that would
> > explain why
> > >>> you see "Last occurrence 2/5/21".
> > >>>
> > >>> Is it possible that you somehow deleted the occurrence
> > that was
> > > created?
> > >>> J.
> > >>>
> > >>> On 2/4/21 10:19 AM, Jack Slater wrote:
> >  Today is 2/4/21.
> >  Transac

Re: [GNC] installling online quotes in Windows 10

[Geoff]

Also this person was experiencing a problem with internet access from 
the command line - read the second last post in the thread for their 
solution.


http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GNC-Finance-quote-troubleshooting-tc4721374.html#a4721479

Good luck!

Geoff
=

On 6/02/2021 7:38 am, David Carlson wrote:

I just tried to install online quotes for GnuCash 4.4 in Win10 home.  It
failed to install Strawberry Perl because it did not have permission to
install programs.
So then I tried to run the installer with administrator privileges and it
failed because it could not access the internet (?) though web browsers
have no such issue.

There is no help for these issues in the GnuCash WIKi.  From time to time a
similar problem has appeared in this list but I thought the users got
farther than I am getting before getting stuck.


David Carlson
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 2/5/2021 4:54 PM, Jack Slater wrote:

Interesting. Sure seems like a bug to me.



But that's why good to post HERE (in the users' help list). The FIRST 
step is to confirm that there are other users who have scheduled 
transactions and whether they have seen this behavior. If not, if 
scheduled transactions work normally for other people, then we ask more 
questions before filing a bug report.


  We need to confirm same version of gnucash, same operating system

If we have identified people using the same version and OS and scheduled 
transactions work for them, does NOT sound like a bug.


   We then go back to the person reporting the problem and dissect 
"work flow" in great detail to figure out what was done wrong.


Michael D Novack

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Re: [GNC] 4.4 slow

[David H]

Running GnuCash 4.4 on Big Sur 11.2, seems about the same except the save
time has blown out by about a factor of 10 (i.e. from a few seconds to
about 30-40 seconds), whereas Ubuntu and Win 10 are as speedy as ever.  I
put it down to something in Big Sur - I have issues with my Logitech mouse
as well when it starts to get all jittery and stop responding for half a
second or so here and there. Maybe time for a system re-install, been
putting it off as it's a lot of work :-(

Cheers David H.


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> Does it beachball long enough to get a process sample out of Activity
> Monitor? Better yet, do you know your way around Xcode well enough to get a
> time profile?
>
> Regards,
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>
> > On Feb 5, 2021, at 9:57 AM, R. Victor Klassen 
> wrote:
> >
> > I should also say I’m using the SQLite back end. 90% or more of what I
> do passes though the business features. When I say entering an invoice line
> is slow I mean that when I hit tab to get past the last entry and start a
> new one I sometimes see the spinning lollipop.
> >
> > Trying check and repair to see if it makes a difference
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Feb 5, 2021, at 11:41 AM, Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> And on that note, it is always recommended when stepping between major
> versions to run Actions > Check & Repair > Check & Repair All. (which
> should accomplish such data translations all in one go)
> >>
> >> I forgot to add that I'm using the SQLite backend. Not sure if that
> makes a difference.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Adrien
> >>
> >>> On 2/5/21 10:28 AM, David Reiser via gnucash-user wrote:
> >>> My memory is a bit fuzzy, but version 4 made some significant changes
> to (I think) a number of key-value structures in the database. The first
> time you open version 4, it has to convert all the old values (if you have
> done lots of transaction importing, that’s a big contributor). If you quit
> gnucash before it’s done with the conversion, it  has to start over the
> next time. I think it took something like 45 minutes before my Mac was done
> updating everything internally in the database.
> >>> After that it has been fine.
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?

[Jack Slater]

Yep I sure get that and I'm all in to make it as good as it can be. Suffice
to say, the small functionality that I use for home finance is really
terrific and I s appreciate folks that contribute to the coding.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 4:20 PM Michael or Penny Novack <
stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote:

> On 2/5/2021 4:54 PM, Jack Slater wrote:
> > Interesting. Sure seems like a bug to me.
>
>
> But that's why good to post HERE (in the users' help list). The FIRST
> step is to confirm that there are other users who have scheduled
> transactions and whether they have seen this behavior. If not, if
> scheduled transactions work normally for other people, then we ask more
> questions before filing a bug report.
>
>We need to confirm same version of gnucash, same operating system
>
> If we have identified people using the same version and OS and scheduled
> transactions work for them, does NOT sound like a bug.
>
> We then go back to the person reporting the problem and dissect
> "work flow" in great detail to figure out what was done wrong.
>
> Michael D Novack
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?

[Adrien Monteleone]

I agree as well. I was replying specifically to Christina's post. 
Perhaps I misread it.


You won't automatically see the transactions for review unless you have 
it set up to both notify you and then click that checkbox.


But certainly even without notification or review, the transactions 
should appear in the relevant registers (there should be at least two 
affected accounts) without restarting GnuCash.


If they are not appearing, and there is no date or other filter set, 
that indeed is a bug, but it isn't affecting everyone as I noted. More 
sleuthing will be needed.


Regards,
Adrien

On 2/5/21 4:11 PM, Jack Slater wrote:

Agree.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 4:08 PM Jean Laroche  wrote:


But it's a bug that you have to go through these steps, right? (i.e.,
that they don't show in the register unless you close GC then open it
again).


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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?

[Adrien Monteleone]

I don't think you are. I think we're talking about two different things.

I agree, once fired, the transaction should be visible in the affected 
registers, presuming you don't have a filtered view active that his 
hiding it.


Regards,
Adrien

On 2/5/21 4:10 PM, Jack Slater wrote:

Why would I want to have to perform another task for a scheduled
transaction? Seems redundant to me. Better to fix the problem it seems to
me unless I'm totally missing something.


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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?

[Adrien Monteleone]

On 2/5/21 4:15 PM, Jack Slater wrote:

This is my original post (at bottom of this thread)

Today is 2/4/21.
Transaction scheduled for the 5th of every month.
Looking at Scheduled Transactions, it reads Last Occurance 2/5/21.
Transaction options are set to Create Automatically and Create 3 days
in advance.

Are you referring to Preferences > Scheduled Transactions?

Those are defaults.

Double check the SX itself. You might have a different setting for the 
one in question. (it might not have fired until today if it were not set 
to create 3 days in advance)


Regards,
Adrien

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[GNC] Trouble getting stock quotes from TSX

[gnu Gord]

Is anyone using the stock quotes in GnuCash from the TSX (Toronto Stock
Exchange)?
I can not get it to work.
I have it working from Yahoo but not the TSX.
I tried testing it using gnc-fq-dump and did not have any more luck. It
seems to work if I use Yahoo but not the TSX. I don't know what I'm doing
wrong.

Here are the two attempts to get a quote for the stock 'T' (TELUS
Communications):

c:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin>perl "c:\Program Files
(x86)\gnucash\bin\gnc-fq-dump" -v tsx t

Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
symbol: t (deduced)  <=== required
  date: ** missing **<=== recommended
  currency: ** missing **<=== required
  last: **missing**  <=\
   nav: **missing**  <=== one of these
 price: **missing**  <=/
  timezone:  <=== optional

** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash!


All fields returned by Finance::Quote for stock t

stock   field  value
-   -  -
terrormsg: HTTP session failed
tlast: **missing**
t nav: **missing**
t   price: **missing**
t success: 0


==


c:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin>perl "c:\Program Files
(x86)\gnucash\bin\gnc-fq-dump" -v yahoo_json t.to


Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
symbol: t.to <=== required
  date: 02/05/2021   <=== recommended
  currency: CAD  <=== required
  last: 27   <=\
   nav:  <=== one of these
 price:  <=/
  timezone:  <=== optional

All fields returned by Finance::Quote for stock t.to

stock   field  value
-   -  -
t.toclose: 26.76
t.to currency: CAD
t.to date: 02/05/2021
t.todiv_yield: 4.3535125
t.to  eps: 1.038
t.to exchange: Sourced from Yahoo Finance (as JSON)
t.to high: 27.12
t.to  isodate: 2021-02-05
t.to last: 27
t.to  low: 26.59
t.to   method: yahoo_json
t.to name: t.to (TELUS CORPORATION)
t.to open: 26.76
t.to   pe: 26.01156
t.to  success: 1
t.to   symbol: t.to
t.to type: EQUITY
t.to   volume: 6691064
t.to   year_range:   18.545 - 27.74
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?

[Jack Slater]

Correct.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 4:55 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> I don't think you are. I think we're talking about two different things.
>
> I agree, once fired, the transaction should be visible in the affected
> registers, presuming you don't have a filtered view active that his
> hiding it.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 2/5/21 4:10 PM, Jack Slater wrote:
> > Why would I want to have to perform another task for a scheduled
> > transaction? Seems redundant to me. Better to fix the problem it seems to
> > me unless I'm totally missing something.
>
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?

[Jack Slater]

I'm referring to the specific settings found in Edit of that scheduled
transaction.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 5:00 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

>
> On 2/5/21 4:15 PM, Jack Slater wrote:
> > This is my original post (at bottom of this thread)
> >
> > Today is 2/4/21.
> > Transaction scheduled for the 5th of every month.
> > Looking at Scheduled Transactions, it reads Last Occurance 2/5/21.
> > Transaction options are set to Create Automatically and Create 3 days
> > in advance.
> Are you referring to Preferences > Scheduled Transactions?
>
> Those are defaults.
>
> Double check the SX itself. You might have a different setting for the
> one in question. (it might not have fired until today if it were not set
> to create 3 days in advance)
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
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Re: [GNC] Trouble getting stock quotes from TSX

[Geoff]

Hi Gord

You are not doing anything wrong.  The data sources / web pages used by 
Finance Quote are constantly changing, and unless someone rolls up their 
sleeves and puts in the work to fix it, we end up in this situation with 
a number of sources broken, including TSX.


Regards

Geoff
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On 6/02/2021 10:01 am, gnu Gord wrote:

Is anyone using the stock quotes in GnuCash from the TSX (Toronto Stock
Exchange)?
I can not get it to work.
I have it working from Yahoo but not the TSX.
I tried testing it using gnc-fq-dump and did not have any more luck. It
seems to work if I use Yahoo but not the TSX. I don't know what I'm doing
wrong.

Here are the two attempts to get a quote for the stock 'T' (TELUS
Communications):

c:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin>perl "c:\Program Files
(x86)\gnucash\bin\gnc-fq-dump" -v tsx t

Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
 symbol: t (deduced)  <=== required
   date: ** missing **<=== recommended
   currency: ** missing **<=== required
   last: **missing**  <=\
nav: **missing**  <=== one of these
  price: **missing**  <=/
   timezone:  <=== optional

** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash!


All fields returned by Finance::Quote for stock t

stock   field  value
-   -  -
terrormsg: HTTP session failed
tlast: **missing**
t nav: **missing**
t   price: **missing**
t success: 0


==


c:\Program Files (x86)\gnucash\bin>perl "c:\Program Files
(x86)\gnucash\bin\gnc-fq-dump" -v yahoo_json t.to


Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
 symbol: t.to <=== required
   date: 02/05/2021   <=== recommended
   currency: CAD  <=== required
   last: 27   <=\
nav:  <=== one of these
  price:  <=/
   timezone:  <=== optional

All fields returned by Finance::Quote for stock t.to

stock   field  value
-   -  -
t.toclose: 26.76
t.to currency: CAD
t.to date: 02/05/2021
t.todiv_yield: 4.3535125
t.to  eps: 1.038
t.to exchange: Sourced from Yahoo Finance (as JSON)
t.to high: 27.12
t.to  isodate: 2021-02-05
t.to last: 27
t.to  low: 26.59
t.to   method: yahoo_json
t.to name: t.to (TELUS CORPORATION)
t.to open: 26.76
t.to   pe: 26.01156
t.to  success: 1
t.to   symbol: t.to
t.to type: EQUITY
t.to   volume: 6691064
t.to   year_range:   18.545 - 27.74
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Re: [GNC] Trouble getting stock quotes from TSX

[Cam Ellison]

On 2021-02-05 15:23, Geoff wrote:

Hi Gord

You are not doing anything wrong.  The data sources / web pages used
by Finance Quote are constantly changing, and unless someone rolls up
their sleeves and puts in the work to fix it, we end up in this
situation with a number of sources broken, including TSX.


Use AlphaVantage. The only thing that does not work on TSX or TSX.V are 
warrants - and in my case it may simply be that the codes I use are not 
quite right.


Cheers

Cam
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?

[David Carlson]

First I agree that there is some mysterious behavior with scheduled
transactions but it is very hard to pin down the problem.  I suspect that
only a step by step detailed log of what the GnuCash Since Last Run wizard
is doing would actually  tell us what is wrong, but detailed descriptions
may help.  If scheduled transactions had some identifier shorter than a
UUID or title so we could see which one was being processed when the
problem appeared, that too would help.

I want to start with "... will tell me on start up
that it has created x number of scheduled txns. I can see the change in
value in the register but not the actual txn."

Where does GnuCash display that number?  I have never seen such a summary
transaction count or noticed an updated running total for any account in
any of the places that I might think to look for these changes.
Admittedly, I am currently still using release 3.8 in Ubuntu 20.04  Do I
simply not know where to look?

The main thing that I do see consistently is the appearance of the asterisk
in front of the filename in the top banner which is supposed to mean that
GnuCash has done something that can be 'Saved".  When that asterisk appears
after opening a file but before I have manually made any entries I assume
that the Since Last Run wizard did something.  I have never intentionally
configured any scheduled transaction to be created without a notification,
but now and then the asterisk will appear without any Since Last Run dialog
window appearing or any created transaction appearing in a results window.
I believe that in trying to track that down I have even tried closing the
program without saving and seeing the warning that some change will be
lost, and if I proceed, the next time I start the program, the asterisk
will again spontaneously appear without any of the other artifacts.

According to the release notes, Release 4.0 happened last June, which is
only 8 months ago, so Christina probably saw her problem in release
3.something.

That is all that I can contribute right now.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 5:14 PM Jack Slater  wrote:

> I'm referring to the specific settings found in Edit of that scheduled
> transaction.
>
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 5:00 PM Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > On 2/5/21 4:15 PM, Jack Slater wrote:
> > > This is my original post (at bottom of this thread)
> > >
> > > Today is 2/4/21.
> > > Transaction scheduled for the 5th of every month.
> > > Looking at Scheduled Transactions, it reads Last Occurance 2/5/21.
> > > Transaction options are set to Create Automatically and Create 3 days
> > > in advance.
> > Are you referring to Preferences > Scheduled Transactions?
> >
> > Those are defaults.
> >
> > Double check the SX itself. You might have a different setting for the
> > one in question. (it might not have fired until today if it were not set
> > to create 3 days in advance)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?

[Adrien Monteleone]

On 2/5/21 7:39 PM, David Carlson wrote>

I want to start with "... will tell me on start up
that it has created x number of scheduled txns. I can see the change in
value in the register but not the actual txn."

Where does GnuCash display that number?  I have never seen such a summary
transaction count or noticed an updated running total for any account in
any of the places that I might think to look for these changes.
Admittedly, I am currently still using release 3.8 in Ubuntu 20.04  Do I
simply not know where to look?


The Since Last Run Dialog perhaps? I'm not certain, I don't have any to 
fire for a spell.


The main thing that I do see consistently is the appearance of the asterisk
in front of the filename in the top banner which is supposed to mean that
GnuCash has done something that can be 'Saved".  When that asterisk appears
after opening a file but before I have manually made any entries I assume
that the Since Last Run wizard did something.


An artifact of the XML backend. Anyone using a db backend won't see that 
because changes are committed right away, there is no separate save 
procedure.


  I have never intentionally

configured any scheduled transaction to be created without a notification,
but now and then the asterisk will appear without any Since Last Run dialog
window appearing or any created transaction appearing in a results window.
I believe that in trying to track that down I have even tried closing the
program without saving and seeing the warning that some change will be
lost, and if I proceed, the next time I start the program, the asterisk
will again spontaneously appear without any of the other artifacts.


I'm pretty sure Since Last Run only fires on start up. I found that out 
after some time once I moved to MacOS and never shut GnuCash down. I 
don't get the SXs to fire unless I manually run the dialog, or do a 
restart of GnuCash.


Regards,
Adrien

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[GNC] How to record in-kind transfers?

[David Newman]

Greetings. How to record in-kind transfers of stock shares between
brokerages?

I've read the "Concept of Lots" document on the wiki multiple times,
especially the "lot transfer" section, but don't understand how this
applies to in-kind transfers of stocks.

Thanks.

dn
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?

[David Carlson]

Adrien, thanks for your comments.  I am a prolific user of SX's, I average
several per day.  The transaction count would not appear in the SLR dialog
unless it only counted the ones that had already happened when the dialog
appeared.  Since most transactions appear only after being approved for
creation in that dialog, I would expect the number to appear in the
'created transactions' window, but I do not recall seeing it there, so I
see that as part of the mystery.

I do get surprised from time to time, tho.  I just recently noticed that if
one pauses the mouse pointer over a 'y' letter in the reconciled box the
reconciliation date flies up.  Nothing happens over other letters in that
box.  Surprise!

You  are right that I use the XML data format.  Since I count that 'dirty
file' symbol as important, I would miss it if there were no other way to
tell if or how many changes had occurred since I last created a backup or
at least made a discrete file save..

On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 8:06 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> On 2/5/21 7:39 PM, David Carlson wrote>
> > I want to start with "... will tell me on start up
> > that it has created x number of scheduled txns. I can see the change in
> > value in the register but not the actual txn."
> >
> > Where does GnuCash display that number?  I have never seen such a summary
> > transaction count or noticed an updated running total for any account in
> > any of the places that I might think to look for these changes.
> > Admittedly, I am currently still using release 3.8 in Ubuntu 20.04  Do I
> > simply not know where to look?
>
> The Since Last Run Dialog perhaps? I'm not certain, I don't have any to
> fire for a spell.
> >
> > The main thing that I do see consistently is the appearance of the
> asterisk
> > in front of the filename in the top banner which is supposed to mean that
> > GnuCash has done something that can be 'Saved".  When that asterisk
> appears
> > after opening a file but before I have manually made any entries I assume
> > that the Since Last Run wizard did something.
>
> An artifact of the XML backend. Anyone using a db backend won't see that
> because changes are committed right away, there is no separate save
> procedure.
>
>I have never intentionally
> > configured any scheduled transaction to be created without a
> notification,
> > but now and then the asterisk will appear without any Since Last Run
> dialog
> > window appearing or any created transaction appearing in a results
> window.
> > I believe that in trying to track that down I have even tried closing the
> > program without saving and seeing the warning that some change will be
> > lost, and if I proceed, the next time I start the program, the asterisk
> > will again spontaneously appear without any of the other artifacts.
>
> I'm pretty sure Since Last Run only fires on start up. I found that out
> after some time once I moved to MacOS and never shut GnuCash down. I
> don't get the SXs to fire unless I manually run the dialog, or do a
> restart of GnuCash.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?

[Jean Laroche]

For what it's worth, I tried to repro the problem, but failed to. So 
it's probably a bit of a tricky bug :(


J.

On 2/5/21 6:45 PM, David Carlson wrote:

Adrien, thanks for your comments.  I am a prolific user of SX's, I average
several per day.  The transaction count would not appear in the SLR dialog
unless it only counted the ones that had already happened when the dialog
appeared.  Since most transactions appear only after being approved for
creation in that dialog, I would expect the number to appear in the
'created transactions' window, but I do not recall seeing it there, so I
see that as part of the mystery.

I do get surprised from time to time, tho.  I just recently noticed that if
one pauses the mouse pointer over a 'y' letter in the reconciled box the
reconciliation date flies up.  Nothing happens over other letters in that
box.  Surprise!

You  are right that I use the XML data format.  Since I count that 'dirty
file' symbol as important, I would miss it if there were no other way to
tell if or how many changes had occurred since I last created a backup or
at least made a discrete file save..

On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 8:06 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:


On 2/5/21 7:39 PM, David Carlson wrote>

I want to start with "... will tell me on start up
that it has created x number of scheduled txns. I can see the change in
value in the register but not the actual txn."

Where does GnuCash display that number?  I have never seen such a summary
transaction count or noticed an updated running total for any account in
any of the places that I might think to look for these changes.
Admittedly, I am currently still using release 3.8 in Ubuntu 20.04  Do I
simply not know where to look?

The Since Last Run Dialog perhaps? I'm not certain, I don't have any to
fire for a spell.

The main thing that I do see consistently is the appearance of the

asterisk

in front of the filename in the top banner which is supposed to mean that
GnuCash has done something that can be 'Saved".  When that asterisk

appears

after opening a file but before I have manually made any entries I assume
that the Since Last Run wizard did something.

An artifact of the XML backend. Anyone using a db backend won't see that
because changes are committed right away, there is no separate save
procedure.

I have never intentionally

configured any scheduled transaction to be created without a

notification,

but now and then the asterisk will appear without any Since Last Run

dialog

window appearing or any created transaction appearing in a results

window.

I believe that in trying to track that down I have even tried closing the
program without saving and seeing the warning that some change will be
lost, and if I proceed, the next time I start the program, the asterisk
will again spontaneously appear without any of the other artifacts.

I'm pretty sure Since Last Run only fires on start up. I found that out
after some time once I moved to MacOS and never shut GnuCash down. I
don't get the SXs to fire unless I manually run the dialog, or do a
restart of GnuCash.

Regards,
Adrien

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Re: [GNC] How to record in-kind transfers?

[John Ralls]

> On Feb 5, 2021, at 6:42 PM, David Newman  wrote:
> 
> Greetings. How to record in-kind transfers of stock shares between
> brokerages?
> 
> I've read the "Concept of Lots" document on the wiki multiple times,
> especially the "lot transfer" section, but don't understand how this
> applies to in-kind transfers of stocks.

Probably because it doesn't.

You can transfer the shares in a regular two-split transaction but depending on 
the circumstances it might make more sense to just re-parent the account to the 
new broker.

Regards,
John Ralls


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Re: [GNC] How to record in-kind transfers?

[David Newman]

On 2/5/21 7:56 PM, John Ralls wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Feb 5, 2021, at 6:42 PM, David Newman  wrote:
>>
>> Greetings. How to record in-kind transfers of stock shares between
>> brokerages?
>>
>> I've read the "Concept of Lots" document on the wiki multiple times,
>> especially the "lot transfer" section, but don't understand how this
>> applies to in-kind transfers of stocks.
> 
> Probably because it doesn't.
> 
> You can transfer the shares in a regular two-split transaction but depending 
> on the circumstances it might make more sense to just re-parent the account 
> to the new broker.

Thanks for that. I might end up doing both.

Re-parenting is simplest and makes the most sense. But in one case, I've
already got shares of the same company at the old and new brokerages. I
used the two-split method there. Both worked fine.

Thanks again!

dn


> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 
> 
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