Project reboot proposals - any guidance?

[Nick Burch]

Hi All

I'm currently helping the XMLBeans community put together a proposal to 
reboot their project, which is otherwise destined for the attic. However, 
while I've helped a few new projects enter the incubator in the past, I've 
never tried helping with a reboot. As such, I'm not quite sure if the 
initial proposal is quite right or not.


Do we have any guidance on what a reboot proposal should and shouldn't 
contain?


If not, any chance people could cast any eye over the proposal, and either 
fix stuff if they can, or flag it for work if not? The proposal is at:

 https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/XMLBeansProposal

Thanks
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Re: Project reboot proposals - any guidance?

[Nick Burch]

On Thu, 24 Oct 2013, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
But of course it would be interesting for me about the motivations. I 
mean, the project was almost dead and now a few people want it to be 
revived. Why? Was the problem in the previous project to less interest? 
Problems in the community?


The previous PMC withered away, but a lot of the users remained. The wider 
community kept answering queries, producing bug reports etc, but the 
supervision part wasn't there which is why the board stepped in.


As I understand it, there's still quite a lot of interest in XMLBeans, but 
it's from a different (and smaller) area than most of the original PMC was 
made up of.


Is it enough to make a full go of it? I'm not sure. Is it enough for me to 
sign up as a mentor to let them try? Yup! :)


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Re: permission to edit wiki

[Nick Burch]

On Mon, 10 Feb 2014, Enis Söztutar wrote:

I would kindly request edit perms to https://wiki.apache.org.

UserName: EnisSoztutar


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Re: Mentor needs wiki permissions

[Nick Burch]

On Tue, 11 Mar 2014, Ted Dunning wrote:

Sebastian Schelter is a new mentor for Drill and needs wiki write
permissions to sign off on monthly reports.

Can somebody help by giving him permissions?  I copied him so you have 
his apache email address.


The important piece of information isn't his email address, it's his wiki 
username - permissions are granted based on usernames not emails


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Re: Mentor needs wiki permissions

[Nick Burch]

On Tue, 11 Mar 2014, Sebastian Schelter wrote:

the username is SebastianSchelter.


Karma granted, go help your podling :)

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Re: Request to have my account added to contributors group on wiki

[Nick Burch]

On Wed, 2 Apr 2014, Will Vaughan wrote:
I would like to have my account added to the contributors group on the 
incubator wiki so that I may fill out the report for datafu.


Added, enjoy!

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Re: [VOTE] Pre-clear ODF Toolkit Podling to use Alternate Release Voting Process

[Nick Burch]

On Mon, 21 Apr 2014, Rob Weir wrote:

The process is described here:

http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Releases


As one of your sporadically available mentors, I'm happy that you're in a 
state to switch to the alternate process, so +1 (binding) from myself


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Re: [VOTE] Accept Slider into the incubator

[Nick Burch]

On Sun, 27 Apr 2014, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
That's actually a great point. The way I look at it is this: there's 
nothing wrong with an alternative healthy community, but it has to be 
healthy. So I guess what I'm really saying is this: it may behove us to 
double click into the health of community for these types of overlapping 
projects when it is time for them to graduate.


One thing I'd also say - for new potential community members, there ought 
not to be confusion. I don't personally see a problem with us having 
multiple projects in one space, as long as we can explain to new community 
members which one they should pick for their needs. "We have two Java 
libraries for Fooing a Bar" isn't great. "If you need to Foo a Bar, we've 
Apache CoffeeBar in Java, or Apache SnakeBar in Python" does help people 
pick. "If you need to Foo your Bar, we've Apache SnapBar for low latency 
Fooing, or Apache BigSuperBar for highly scalable and fault tolerant 
batching Fooing" is good too. In both cases, there's a clear distinction 
for new people to work out which is right for them, so they can join the 
right community, or even go elsewhere if they need to.


However, I worry if there are two related projects who disagree on 
personality rather than technology or architecture...


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Re: Require write access for incubator wiki

[Nick Burch]

On Sun, 11 May 2014, Rahul Sharma wrote:
I think the mails are back in business, so I would like to request write 
access for the wiki. I need to file report for May. My userid is 
rahul.sharma.


Karma granted

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Re: [Proposal] Add me as Mentor for ODF Toolkit Podling

[Nick Burch]

On Tue, 20 May 2014, Rob Weir wrote:
I looked around and did not see a process defined for adding a Mentor to 
a podling.  I see how they are added at podling initiation, but not 
after.  So apologies if I'm missing something.


As a currently mentor of the project (sporadically...), I'm +1 to adding 
you to our ranks


so even with the experimental release process we're unable to move 
forward, since that requires Mentor sign off on the release 
manifest/checklist.


Sorry, I missed that that needed to happen. I've reviewed it and signed it 
off!


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Re: Wiki access

[Nick Burch]

On Mon, 9 Jun 2014, Richard Downer wrote:

Could "RichardDowner" be granted access to write to the Incubator wiki?


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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.6.1-incubating

[Nick Burch]

On Thu, 26 Jun 2014, Justin Mclean wrote:
This VOTE has now been going on for more than a month. Anyone able to 
help out here?


I thought the vote had passed?

Only there was a release announcement about 3 weeks ago for 
0.6.1-incubating:

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-odf-dev/201406.mbox/%3CCAP-ksogYbfCPx%2B7cfp6GEM%2BkOXa-xeT3rE6cdqnc7NzNjNmSkQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E

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Re: Wiki access

[Nick Burch]

On Tue, 1 Jul 2014, Martin Kleppmann wrote:
Likewise, could you please give write access for my wiki account 
"MartinKleppmann".


Sure, karma granted, enjoy!

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Re: Wiki access

[Nick Burch]

On Tue, 1 Jul 2014, Martin Kleppmann wrote:
Thanks! Could you please also give me write access on the Samza wiki 
(https://wiki.apache.org/samza/FrontPage)? Sorry for the spam, I didn't 
realise each wiki has a separate user account.


I don't have karma on that wiki, sorry

https://wiki.apache.org/samza/ContributorsGroup suggests you need to drop 
a note to the samza dev list to request access there


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Re: wiki access

[Nick Burch]

On Wed, 2 Jul 2014, Justin Mclean wrote:
If I can't granted access can someone please give access to user 
HendrikSaly so he can fill in the Fleece podling report.


I've granted karma to HendrikSaly

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Re: Wiki Access

[Nick Burch]

On Wed, 9 Jul 2014, Rob Weir wrote:

On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 5:11 AM, Svante Schubert
Can somebody please give me (user svanteschubert) access to the Wiki 


Anyone?


Karma granted.

(I guess everyone else was like me and off on holiday for a few days! We 
do normally manage to turn these round quicker)


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Re: Wiki Access

[Nick Burch]

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014, Alan Cabrera wrote:
Does one have to be a infrastructure team member to grant access or can 
IPMC members provide that?


You need to be listed on the AdminGroup page:
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AdminGroup

There's currently 21 IPMC members on there who can grant karma. If another 
IPMC member would like to be number 22, I'd suggest a suitable post to 
private@


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Re: Wiki access

[Nick Burch]

On Tue, 5 Aug 2014, Byung-Gon Chun wrote:

I don't have write access to the wiki page:
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReefProposal.
Could someone give me permission to update the page?

My user name is "Byung-Gon Chun".


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Re: Request for write access to incubator wiki

[Nick Burch]

On Mon, 1 Sep 2014, Prasad Mujumdar wrote:

I am part of Apache Sentry PPMC and requesting write access to incubator
wiki in order to add the project status report (
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/September2014)

wiki login: prasadm


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Re: [Request] Wiki Access

[Nick Burch]

On Wed, 5 Nov 2014, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:

On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Tresch, Anatole
 wrote:

I opened a new user on http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/
User Name:  Anatole Tresch ...


Username with a space, really? I didn't think that wiki supports that,
can you confirm?


It does, and we have a handful of them already in the contributors group. 
You need to wrap the username in [[ ]] when adding to the list though, so 
it gets properly handled - non-space ones don't need that


Someone else has already added the OP to the group, in the right syntax, 
so hopefully they're good to go now!


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Re: wiki write access

[Nick Burch]

On Tue, 2 Oct 2012, Pepijn Noltes wrote:

Could anybody grant me write access to the incubator wiki, I need this to
fill in the Celix report.


Karma granted, enjoy!

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Re: key signing

[Nick Burch]

On Mon, 15 Oct 2012, Benson Margulies wrote:

Choices:


There is another option, which I mentioned in the other key signing thread 
on members@, which applies equally here too. Reposting my answer from 
there, with a few tweaks...



In-person keysigning doesn't just have to be at ApacheCons, there are more 
frequent and more geographically distributed options too! Most BarCamps do 
keysignings, and some meetups too. They tend to be more geographically 
spread than ApacheCon, and they're much easier to organise. [1]


In addition, we have the "Apache Local Mentors" program, which I'd
encourage all IPMC mentors to sign up to if they haven't already:
   http://community.apache.org/localmentors.html
As well as going to your nearest local Apache mentor for advise on getting
into open source, help with understanding the Apache way etc, you could
also ask them to sign your key. Even if you can only get one link into the
WoT from one local mentor, it's still much better than nothing!


So, for a short-term fix for your potential Release Manger, I'd suggest 
you get them in touch with a nearby local mentor. IPMC mentors should sign 
themselves up for the local mentors program, to help out future new RMs :)


Nick

[1] If you're interested in organising something in your local area, be
 it a BarCamp, Meetup etc, small-events-discuss@ is the place to
 lurk / ask advice / seek volunteers / get going etc!
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-small-events-discuss/

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Re: How to use an apache webpage

[Nick Burch]

On Thu, 20 Dec 2012, Shane Curcuru wrote:
I put the DRAFT on because I originally wrote these for my personal 
Community Over Code site, and I wanted to ensure the style was 
appropriate for a path under a.o/foundation, which makes it official.


I wonder if a label like "work in progress" might be better suited, if we 
want to indicate in future that something is incomplete but input is 
welcomed?


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Fast Feather Track at ACNA13 - The incubator's chance to get involved!

[Nick Burch]

Hi All

Hopefully all of you know that it's ApacheCon in Portland in just under 2 
weeks. The Community Over Code track in particular should be of great 
interest + help to many in the incubator community, as we've some 
excellent speakers talking about all sorts of things around our projects, 
development and ways of working.


Another set of talks that will be taking place is the "Fast Feather 
Track", which is a series of shorter talks (~15 minutes) on things that 
are new, interesting, exciting and upcoming. This is a great place for 
newer Incubating Projects to talk about themselves, gain new exposure, and 
also practice ApacheCon speaking in preparation for future full talks!


The talk proposal submission process for the FFT is set to be announced 
tomorrow, but I wanted to give the Incubator a heads-up first as I know 
how important it's been for podlings in the past!


To propose a talk, please use the form at http://s.apache.org/FFT13

If not many people from your project watch this list, please let others in 
your community know too!



Also, thinking of ApacheCon and podling communities, don't forget we've 
got a BarCamp[1] on the Sunday before (great chance to learn more about 
Apache and talk about your project), a Hackathon[2] on the Monday (draw 
new people into contributing to your project), and you can host a meetup 
one evening[3] if you wish.


Hopefully see many of you in Portland!

Nick

[1] http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/BarCampApachePortland
[2] http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/HackathonNA13
[3] http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/CommunityEventsNA13

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Re: Wiki privs

[Nick Burch]

On Tue, 19 Feb 2013, Arun C Murthy wrote:

Help, please?


I've added you to this list. Two things though, firstly usernames with 
spaces in aren't that usual, so you should check it works. Secondly, an 
account with the username "ArunMurthy" already had karma, so is it 
possible you previously created a different account?


Nick


On Feb 18, 2013, at 3:05 PM, Arun C Murthy wrote:

Hi Folks,

Can someone pls grant me privs so that I can put up a new Incubator proposal on 
the wiki (http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TezProposal) ? My wiki username is 
'Arun C Murthy'.

thanks,
Arun








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Re: [WIKI] Permissions to create new wiki page for new proposal

[Nick Burch]

On Thu, 21 Feb 2013, Hyunsik Choi wrote:

I missed my account of incubator wiki. My account is HyunsikChoi.


Karma granted

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Re: Permission to edit wiki

[Nick Burch]

On Mon, 25 Feb 2013, Jordan Zimmerman wrote:
May I have to edit the Curator Proposal wiki, please?  My id is 
"JordanZimmerman".


Done!

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Re: Edit access to incubator wiki

[Nick Burch]

On Fri, 12 Apr 2013, Seetharam Venkatesh wrote:
I trust you are doing well. I'd appreciate if someone could grant access 
to wiki.apache.org/incubator to work on the falcon project homepage 
among other things.


You'll first need to register for an account on the wiki, then let us know 
the username you signed up with. Someone can then grant you karma. (Wiki 
usernames are completely independent of any other ASF credentials you 
might have)


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Re: Permissions to edit the Incubator wiki

[Nick Burch]

On Mon, 5 Aug 2013, Florian Müller wrote:
Please give me permissions to edit the Incubator wiki. My account is 
FlorianMueller.


Done, enjoy!

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Re: [VOTE] Apache Chemistry OpenCMIS 0.2.0-incubating (RC1)

[Nick Burch]

On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Gabriele Columbro wrote:
The release has passed the Chemistry PMC vote: http://bit.ly/i0qwI0 
During the vote, also 1 IPMC (Jukka Zitting) vote has been collected, so 
we'd need 2 more IPMC +1 to proceed with the release.


Appologies for not having the time to review it during the podling vote...


Please cast your votes!


Signatures and hashes look fine, license headers are in place, and the 
selection of LICENSE / NOTICE / DEPENDENCIES files I reviewed all seemed 
fine to me. So, I'm +1


Just need one more IPMC +1 and we're done. Anyone able to review and vote?

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Chemistry cmislib 0.4 incubating

[Nick Burch]

On Tue, 25 Jan 2011, Jeff Potts wrote:

The release has passed the Chemistry PMC vote: http://bit.ly/eqXU2X

During the vote, 1 IPMC vote was collected (Nick Burch), so we need 2 
more IPMC +1 votes to proceed with the release.


Is anyone able to review and vote on these for us? The other two Chemistry 
mentors don't have any spare cycles this week, so we are after some help 
from other IPMC members!


Thanks
Nick

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[VOTE] Graduation of the Chemistry Podling

[Nick Burch]

Hi All

The Chemistry podling has been in the incubator since early 2009. In the 
last 6 months, the podling has had two sucessful Java releases, and now 
its first sucessful non-Java release too. The community is healthy and 
diverse, has added new committers, and brought in other code bases + their 
communities via the IP clearing process.


Following advice from the mentors, the Chemistry podling has now voted to 
graduate:

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chemistry-dev/201102.mbox/%3calpine.deb.1.10.1102071443310.9...@urchin.earth.li%3E
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-chemistry-dev/201102.mbox/%3calpine.deb.1.10.110230300.9...@urchin.earth.li%3E

The vote has received 12 PPMC approvals, of which 2 were also IPMC 
approvals (Jukka Zitting and myself).


I'd therefore like to ask the IPMC to approve the graduation.
 +1 - I approve of the Chemistry graduation
  0 - I've not had time to look into it, sorry
 -1 - There's an issue with graduation at this time, which is

Voting will be open for 72 hours. Also, please find the proposed board 
resolution below.


Thanks
Nick



Establish the Apache Chemistry project

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests
of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to
establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and
maintenance of open-source software providing an implemention of the
OASIS CMIS (Content Management Interoperability Services) specifications,
in server and client form, for distribution at no charge to the public.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee
(PMC), to be known as the "Apache Chemistry Project", be and hereby is
established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache Chemistry Project be and hereby is responsible
for the creation and maintenance of software providing and implementing
the OASIS CMIS (Content Management Interoperability Services) specifications,
in server and client form, for distribution at no charge to the public.

RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Chemistry" be and hereby is
created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of
the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Chemistry Project, and
to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within
the scope of responsibility of the Apache Chemistry Project; and be it
further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are
appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Chemistry Project:

* Bogdan Stefanescu (b...@apache.org)
* David Caruana (dcaru...@apache.org)
* David Nuescheler  (unc...@apache.org)
* David Ward(dw...@apache.org)
* Dominique Pfister (dpfis...@apache.org)
* Florent Guillaume (fguilla...@apache.org)
* Florian Müller(f...@apache.org)
* Gabriele Columbro (gabri...@apache.org)
* Jeff Potts(jpo...@apache.org)
* Jens Hübel(j...@apache.org)
* Jukka Zitting (ju...@apache.org)
* Martin Hermes     (herm...@apache.org)
* Nick Burch(n...@apache.org)
* Paolo Mottadelli  (pa...@apache.org)
* Paul Goetz(pgo...@apache.org)
* Richard McKnight  (richa...@apache.org)
* Stéfane Fermigier (sfermig...@apache.org)
* Stephan Klevenz   (sklev...@apache.org)
* Stéphane Lacoin   (slac...@apache.org)
* Sun Seng David Tan(s...@apache.org)

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Florian Müller be
appointed to the office of Vice President, Chemistry, to serve in
accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors
and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement,
removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be
it further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Chemistry Project be and hereby is
tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open
development and increased participation in the Chemistry Project; and be
it further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Chemistry Project be and hereby is
tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator
Chemistry podling; and be it further

RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache Incubator
Chemistry podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator PMC are hereafter
discharged.

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[RESULT] [VOTE] Graduation of the Chemistry Podling

[Nick Burch]

On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, Nick Burch wrote:
The vote has received 12 PPMC approvals, of which 2 were also IPMC 
approvals (Jukka Zitting and myself).


I'd therefore like to ask the IPMC to approve the graduation.


We've had 8 further IPMC +1s, so the graduation votes passes! I'll take 
the resolution forward to the board, though I fear we might just have 
missed our chance to have it in the Feb meeting...


Thanks all!

Nick

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Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal

[Nick Burch]

On Wed, 1 Jun 2011, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote:

That would be great.  There is also another project (or set of projects)
that IBM and Sun/Oracle have worked on over the past few years, called the
:ODF Toolkit".  For example, this component was just released today:
http://odftoolkit.org/projects/simple/pages/ReleaseNotes

The ODF Toolkit work was all written to an Apache 2.0 license.  I think
we're agreed that this should go to Apache as well.  But we were not sure
what the best place would be.  I could see a close relationship to Apache
POI.  It is very similar to those components, but it is certainly not a
"Microsoft" file format.  And I don't agree that the "Pretty Obfuscated
Interface" part accurately describes ODF.  But I could also see the ODF
Toolkit being a component in the Office project, perhaps even being
co-incubated with today's proposal.


POI has generally stuck to the Microsoft formats for two reasons:
* It's where we started, and where we knew best
* We haven't had the volunteer energy to take on a whole new format

Speaking personally, I would be interested in seeing how ODF Toolkit could 
fit within the POI project. We already have a number of components, and 
interfaces that try to smooth over the differences between the different 
formats underneath. In the past, we helped bring in the OpenXML4J project 
which became part of what powers many of our components today, so it's not 
too large a stretch. We certainly wouldn't say no to new people joining 
the project :)


This would possibly warrant a seperate discussion though, especially if 
the codebase were to be destined for POI rather than a new TLP.


As I don't think many of the POI committers are currently actively 
involved in the Incubator, it might be worth you sending something through 
to the dev list giving an introduction to the project and the code, and 
hopefully we can then tempt people over to a thread here to discuss the 
toolkit.


Thanks
Nick

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Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal

[Nick Burch]

On Wed, 1 Jun 2011, Luke Kowalski wrote:

The following project is being sent in as an incubator candidate.


As there are likely quite a few people new to Apache interested in and 
coming with this proposal, I thought I should send a quick note pointing 
out some community releated resources and events.


Firstly with an IPMC/ComDev hat on. There's a lot of useful information on 
how the incubator works to be found on the incubator website. The podling 
guides are a good place to start:

   http://incubator.apache.org/guides/index.html
And the Who/How/When are worth a look through:
   http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html

If you'd like to know more about communities at Apache, and getting 
involved, then Community Development (ComDev) provide guides:

   http://community.apache.org/
These complement the overall guides on the main site (which provide some 
overviews, along with details on specific tasks and questions):

   http://www.apache.org/dev/


Onto a different topic, this time with my Conference Committee (ConCom) 
hat on. If you're interested in learning more about the ASF, the 
Incubator, The Apache Way, or even just meeting other Apache developers, 
then there are two events coming up. Firstly there's an Apache BarCamp in 
Oxford in September[1]. Secondly there's ApacheCon in Vancouver in 
November, which will feature a lot on Community (schedule due up soon, 
once all the speakers confirm!)


Nick

[1] http://barcamp.org/BarCampApacheOxford
[2] http://na11.apachecon.com/

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Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal

[Nick Burch]

On Wed, 1 Jun 2011, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:

On 6/1/2011 12:48 PM, Nick Burch wrote:
This would possibly warrant a seperate discussion though, especially if 
the codebase were to be destined for POI rather than a new TLP.


And note, this is a decision that can be made *during* incubation, with 
POI folks participating on the incubating project's dev list.


Yup. It is a thing possibly in favour of bringing the ODF Toolkit in in a 
different podling, as per your earler email.


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Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal

[Nick Burch]

On Wed, 1 Jun 2011, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote:

But I see this as pulling in two directions:

1) On the one hand it is a good fit for a module in an OpenOffice SDK, so
the OpenOffice project might be a good fit.  On the other hand ODF is an
application-independent document format, not necessarily just for
OpenOffice.  So we might not want to bury it as a component in this much
larger project.


It's not impossible for a project to live in one TLP, but be referenced by 
another. One example is the various projects within the Hadoop family. 
Most of them are independent TLPs, which do collaborate and work together, 
with the websites linking each other.



2) It is complementary to POI, doing some of the same functions with ODF
that POI does with MS Office binary and OOXML documents.  But it is a
little bit of scope creep if POI takes on non-Microsoft formats.  I could
live with that, if done consistently in how POI describes itself.


I can't speak for the whole project, but personally I'd be interested in 
discussing how the POI mission statement could be expanded, and if that'd 
work well for everyone.


Another option of course is to incubate it toward its own TLP 
eventually. We do have Java and C# libraries already, along with some 
useful ODF-processing XSLT scripts, a servlet "runner" and an ODF 
validator components.


It may be worth bringing all of these in as one podling, seperate from the 
main OOo one. Once in the incubator, the communities can decide where they 
want to go, which could be aiming for a TLP for all the ODF tools, or 
could be some moving to POI and some into the OOo podling.


I'll have more cycles to discuss that on the POI dev list once we get 
the OpenOffice podling off to a smooth start.


Hopefully discussions on the POI dev list can shake out a few mentors (I'm 
happy to mentor an ODF Toolkit podling, but it'd take more than just me!), 
then we could put together a proposal to bring in the ODF Toolkit. As Bill 
has pointed out, it could be a 2nd proposal alongside the OOo one, and 
potentially a quicker one to get in as the situation is simpler.


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Re: OpenOffice Proposal: Relationships with Other Apache Products

[Nick Burch]

On Fri, 3 Jun 2011, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote:

Are there any other Apache projects where there might be an interesting
relationship?   Anything jump out?

We have spreadsheets, word procesor, presentation, mathematical formula,
graphics editor, they export PDF, HTML, ODF, MS Office, raster graphics
formats.  We do some stuff with MathML and XForms.  I expect we'll merge
in some SVG support as some point.


Apache Tika is one, I think Jukka's already posted about the possible link 
there


Apache PDFBox is a Java library for reading and writing PDF files, so 
there's potential overlap there


For SVG there's Apache XML Graphics

And I'm sure there are others, that's just off the top of my head :)

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Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

[Nick Burch]

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Sam Ruby wrote:

Please cast your votes:


I'm +1

If accepted, I'll try to help out with the podling, but alas I've not got 
time at the moment to take on a full mentorship role of it.


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Re: ODF Toolkit Incubation Pre-Proposal

[Nick Burch]

On Fri, 1 Jul 2011, Rob Weir wrote:
We continue to discuss moving this work to Apache.  Feedback so far has 
been to try for an eventual TLP.  We're starting to draft the Incubation 
proposal.  We talked to the maintainer of the C#/AODL component and he 
confirmed that it is not really active anymore.  He might move it to 
bitbucket.  So our plan will be to propose moving only the Java 
components over to Apache,


I'm happy to help with mentoring this proposal. Let me know if you need a 
hand with drafting the proposal.


In terms of an eventual TLP goal, and POI interaction/integration, that's 
something we can all discuss and decide during the incubation process



Also, we just announced a new release (more info below) and are
starting work on our next release, which is targeted to add support
for document encryption and digital signatures.


One thing to be aware of is that your first release at Apache is always 
much much harder than every subsequent one! There's a lot to be said for 
doing a small, incremental release ASAP to get the process sorted, rather 
than trying to tackle the release when there's lots of exciting features 
blocked by (say) a missing license and a broken signature!


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Re: [VOTE] Accept ODF Toolkit for Incubation

[Nick Burch]

On Thu, 28 Jul 2011, Sam Ruby wrote:

Please cast your votes:


+1

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Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Accept ODF Toolkit for Incubation

[Nick Burch]

On Sun, 31 Jul 2011, Sam Ruby wrote:

On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Sam Ruby  wrote:

As the discussions on the ODF Toolkit threads seem to be winding down,
I would like to initiate the vote to accept the ODF Toolkit as an
Apache Incubator project.

This vote will close 72 hours from now.


Voting is now closed.  Quorum was achieved, and the vote passes.


Great. I've gone ahead and added the podling status page:
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/odftoolkit.html
(may take an hour or two for the site publish to go live though)


Next step is probably to get the lists setup, so we can use them to 
discuss importing the code, website etc.


Can I have a couple of volunteers to be moderators for the lists? (List 
moderators review emails from non members, and approve if appropriate or 
discard if spam). Once we've a few volunteers, I can ask infra to create 
the lists



I'll contact people needing iCLAs shortly

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Re: ODF Toolkit

[Nick Burch]

On Mon, 1 Aug 2011, drew wrote:

Wondering if it is still appropriate, acceptable, to add myself to the
list of initial Committers


Alas not, now the proposal has been accepted, that initial list is final

The good news is that as soon as the lists are set up, the podling would 
be able to vote you in. If you've been involved in the project before, 
that should be very quick, though for future new contributors it would 
normally wait until after they've submitted patches that everyone is happy 
with.


If you were involved in the project before, I'd suggest you join the dev 
list once it's created, and remind people that you're interested in 
joining.


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Re: Podling accounts created

[Nick Burch]

On Mon, 1 Aug 2011, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:

Sendingasf-authorization-template
svn: Commit failed (details follow):
svn: access to 
'/repos/infra/!svn/ver/793489/infrastructure/trunk/subversion/authorization/asf-authorization-template'
 forbidden


If you could post the diff, then one of us who are also a PMC chair can 
apply the change for you


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Re: Karma to asf-authorization-template

[Nick Burch]

On Mon, 1 Aug 2011, Craig L Russell wrote:

On Aug 1, 2011, at 10:52 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:

There are 30 PMC chairs on the Incubator PMC, which is more than enough
to sort its own authz needs without bugging infra every time.


It would be nice if this fact were better known, so 
mentors-who-are-not-pmc-chairs would know what to do when the accounts for 
the podlings that they are mentoring are created.


I think the correct process is someone who knows about the podling 
produces the diff, and if they can't apply it they should just email 
private@incubator to ask someone else to.


This is actually already documented on our own site:
  http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#who-auth-karma

"If no mentor has karma then an email should be posted to the IPMC private 
list requesting that the grant is performed. One of the IPMCers with karma 
will authorize the committer. "



If you are mentoring an incubator podling and are not a pmc chair, 
please send a request to infrastructure@ with the name of the podling 
and the new committer and we'll be happy to add the necessary karma for 
your new committer.


We don't need to bug infra though, we have enough people in the incubator 
who can do it. We just need to bug the right people here if needed.


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Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Accept ODF Toolkit for Incubation

[Nick Burch]

On Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Dave Fisher wrote:
If you have been waiting for three volunteers before moving forward then 
I'll raise my hand as well.


Thanks for the offer. We did hit the required number of moderators last 
week, we're now waiting on infra[1] to have the cycles to create the 
lists. Once that's done we can get the ball rolling on code, website, wiki 
etc imports. In the mean time, we're working on getting accounts for 
everyone on the proposal who didn't already have them (2 down, 1 to go!)


Cheers
Nick

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3809

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Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Accept ODF Toolkit for Incubation

[Nick Burch]

On Tue, 9 Aug 2011, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:

I would like to help as well if you still need more mentors :).


If you've got the spare cycles, please feel free to give us a hand! 
Currently we have our minimum of 3 mentors:

http://incubator.apache.org/projects/odftoolkit.html

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Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Accept ODF Toolkit for Incubation

[Nick Burch]

On Tue, 9 Aug 2011, Nick Burch wrote:

we're now waiting on infra[1] to have the cycles to create the lists.


The lists have now been created for the ODF Toolkit podling

Anyone who's interested in the project should sign up to the user and dev 
lists. These are odf-us...@incubator.apache.org and 
odf-...@incubator.apache.org


If you'd like to subscribe, sent two emails, one to each of:
  odf-users-subscr...@incubator.apache.org
  odf-dev-subscr...@incubator.apache.org

More details on the lists, and their archives will be available (shortly) 
at:

   http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-odf-users/
   http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-odf-dev/

For those listed on the initial committers list at 
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/odftoolkit.html (and no-one else, 
sorry), you should also subscribe to the private list. You may wish to 
subscribe from your @apache.org email address, so it's easier for the 
moderators to check you should be on there. The subscription address fro 
that is odf-private-subscr...@incubator.apache.org, but again that's for 
the initial committers and mentors only


I'd suggest we give it a day or two for everyone to subscribe, then we can 
kick off a discussion on the dev list about migrating the code, website, 
wiki, issues etc, as well as the process of advising existing mailing list 
subscribers on the move to Apache lists.


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Re: Add committer to asf-authorization-template

[Nick Burch]

On Mon, 15 Aug 2011, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
but I have no access. According to the guide below mentors should be 
able to do it but it seems there is a further restriction?


It looks like someone needs to correct the guide you were following

If you look at the recent account creation notices you'll see the correct 
information:

   Please grant additional karma to the projects in your domain
   you wish the user to have commit to.

   Only PMC chairs (and, for podlings, also Infrastructure volunteers) can
   grant karma.  If needed, please post to the general@/dev@/private@ list
   of your project asking for someone with sufficient karma to grant
   access to 

Most projects have a mentor who can do it, but not all mentors can. Any 
chance you could edit whichever doc you followed?


Can anybody with write access update the auth file and add "leadpipe" to 
the OGNL podling please?


I've just gone to do that, and someone already has done for you :)

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Any23 to join the incubator

[Nick Burch]

On Sat, 3 Sep 2011, Davide Palmisano wrote:

Here's a link to the proposal in the Incubator wiki

http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Any23Proposal


Any chance you could expand a bit on interactions with the Apache projects 
that Any23 is built on? eg how have you engaged with the communities, have 
you submitted bug reports or patches etc?


As not all of the developers on the initial committers list are current 
committers, information on how well Any23 has played with other Apache 
projects could help with the proposal. Additionally, evidence of pushing 
appropriate code, patches, bug fixes etc upstream could help reassure 
people that the project would avoid duplicating code, and could instead 
work well with the other related projects and podlings


Cheers
Nick

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PPMC membership lists?

[Nick Burch]

Hi All

I've just had a question from someone in Chemistry, one of the projects I 
mentor, about ppmc vs committership. Having explained it, I wanted to 
check who was currently on the Chemistry ppmc, but I couldn't seem to find 
the list anywhere...


At the bottom of:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html
is a link to what is supposed to be the PPMC membership list:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/incubator-info.txt
only no such file exists...

I've had a look in most of the usual places, and can't see it there 
either. Can someone please point me at where the ppmc lists are currently 
maintained, so I can both help Chemistry and also update the website?


Cheers
Nick

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Re: PPMC membership lists?

[Nick Burch]

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010, Jukka Zitting wrote:
So far the approach in Chemistry has been to make all committers also 
PPMC members, so the committer (+ mentor) list on the Chemistry status 
page is also a list of the PPMC members.


I'd thought that was the case, but wanted to check!


I agree about it being a good idea to use the status page to
explicitly list the composition of the PPMC. For Chemistry that can be
achieved by simply adding a note like: "The Chemistry PPMC consists of
all the committers and mentors listed here."


Sounds good.

I'll try to find some time tomorrow to update the ppmc information page, 
to state that the status page should either list the ppmc members on it, 
or indicate that all committers are ppmc members (and in this case, the 
podling needs to make this clear in new committer votes). This woud be in 
place of the bit about the svn file that's gone.


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Re: PPMC membership lists?

[Nick Burch]

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010, Jukka Zitting wrote:
I agree about it being a good idea to use the status page to explicitly 
list the composition of the PPMC. For Chemistry that can be achieved by 
simply adding a note like: "The Chemistry PPMC consists of all the 
committers and mentors listed here."


OK. I've added that note to the chemistry page, and updated the ppmc guide 
to say that the status page should list the ppmc members, rather than the 
long-gone svn file


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[IP Clearance] Chemistry CMIS PHP Client Codebase

[Nick Burch]

Hi All

We've another contribution for the incubating Chemistry project, this time 
a PHP CMIS library.


Full details of the grant are in the form:
http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/chemistry-cmis-php-client.html

As per incubator policy, please shout in the next 72 hours if you can spot 
a problem with the grant, otherwise it will proceed by lazy consensus


Thanks
Nick

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[RESULT] [IP Clearance] Chemistry CMIS PHP Client Codebase

[Nick Burch]

On Thu, 10 Jun 2010, Nick Burch wrote:

Full details of the grant are in the form:
http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/chemistry-cmis-php-client.html

As per incubator policy, please shout in the next 72 hours if you can 
spot a problem with the grant, otherwise it will proceed by lazy 
consensus


No objections were raised, so this has passed

Nick

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Chemistry OpenCMIS 0.1.0-incubating

[Nick Burch]

On Mon, 28 Jun 2010, Gabriele Columbro wrote:
this to vote is the first incubator release for Apache Chemistry OpenCMIS, 
with the artifacts being versioned as 0.1.0-incubating.


Sorry, but I'm -1 on this. I think you need to fix at least one of the 
problems raised in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CMIS-224 before 
we can bless the release.


All your release artifacts need a NOTICE and LICENSE, war archives are no 
exception, as per

http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#what-must-every-release-contain
You need to either fix your release process to include these files in your 
war archives, or exclude them from the release for not.


Also, does anyone know how the DEPENDENCIES and NOTICES files interact? 
The policy  seems to 
indicate that the NOTICE file needs eg CDDL notice sections no matter if 
there's a DEPENDENCIES file or not. However, from my initial reading of 
the underlying requirements, it would seem that everything we'd need to 
say is said by DEPENDENCIES. Anyone know if this is one for Chemistry to 
fix, or one to punt over to the legal list for a possible documentation 
tweak?


Nick

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Chemistry OpenCMIS 0.1.0-incubating

[Nick Burch]

On Mon, 28 Jun 2010, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
I think the key point in http://apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice 
is that NOTICE is for *required* third-party notices, so it should be as 
small as possible and contain only notices that the owners of 
third-party code require.


OK, so having it in DEPENDENCIES doesn't let you off the hook if it's a 
license that requires a notice. For those cases, it must be in NOTICE, and 
can be in DEPENDENCIES as well if you want. For those cases which don't 
require a notice, nothing should occur in NOTICE, but you list it in 
DEPENDENCIES if you'd like to. Is that a fair summary?


Nick

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Gora into the Apache Incubator

[Nick Burch]

On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
Over the past week or so we've been discussing the Gora project and 
bringing it into the Apache Incubator [1]. It's time to call a VOTE 
thread on the issue. Please VOTE below:


+1 (binding)

Nick

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Fast Feather Track at ApacheCon - submit your talk now!

[Nick Burch]

Hi All

We've under a month to go now to Atlanta, and hopefully you've all registered 
and are all looking forward to a great week?


Other than our packed schedule of talks, our growing list of meetups (see 
Shane's email from Friday for more details on hosting your own), what could be 
more exciting than your Next Big Thing? Well, that's where the Fast Feather 
Track comes in!


The Fast Feather Track provides space for the projects that are just too 
new or fast-moving to fit in to the normal CFP. It's especially a great 
slot for new incubator projects to talk about what they're up to, or share 
their passion for some new technology out there. So, this is your chance 
of twenty minutes of fame for your incubating project :)


The Fast Feather Track is all about the technology - so whether you're a 
novice or a natural at public speaking, there's room for you! Anything new 
at The Apache Software Foundation belongs here, along with new external 
technologies that can help us work better. Whether you're ready for 
showtime and want the world to know, or you're still finding your feet, 
and just fishing for a few new contributors / mentors, this is the slot 
for you!


What we're after now is people to tell us what they want to talk about. 
We've got a room for a day, and a big empty schedule board with 20 minute 
slots on it, so now all we need is some talks to fill it with... We're 
aiming to fix most of the schedule now, but we'll probably keep a few 
slots spare for some last minute talks. But if you've already got your 
ticket, and you know what you want to talk about, please let us know now, 
so we can make sure there's space for everyone.


To submit your talk, please head over to google docs and tell us about yourself 
and your talk:



We'll see you, your projects, and your great short talks in Atlanta!

Nick

(NB Speaking in the Fast Feather Track does not entitle you to the full
range of speaker perks - you'll get a shiny badge, and your bio in the
program, but you won't get your travel, room or registration comped.
Doesn't make it any less fun though, we promise!)

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Release guidelines for python and php libraries?

[Nick Burch]

Hi All

Does anyone happen to know of some pre-existing release guidelines for 
python or php libraries, either in an apache TLP or a podling? For 
Chemistry we've got the docs sorted for maven-based releases of the java 
codeline, and now we're looking to sort something similar for our python 
and php codebases.


Any tips, references and best practices to avoid reinventing the wheel 
would be most handy!


Thanks
Nick

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Re: Release guidelines for python and php libraries?

[Nick Burch]

On Thu, 7 Oct 2010, Paul Querna wrote:

Things to look at...

release.sh: this invokes setup.py to build out source tarballs and
then uses the hash/sign script to make the gpg/asc/sha1/md5s:


setup.py: contains lots of metadata about the project, where it is,
license, etc:



Thanks for the tips. We already had a setup.py, but no handy release 
signing script, so I've pinched the latter


One thing that had worried me was that if you built a python egg, it 
didn't seem to have most of the license details in it. I see that you only 
do the zip and tar builds, which do, so I guess we'll follow your lead and 
skip out eggs.


Thanks
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Fast Feather Track at ApacheCon - talk about your incubating projects!

[Nick Burch]

Hi All

If you're going to be at ApacheCon in Atlanta next week, and no-one is 
already speaking about your incubating project, then you really ought to 
sign up for the Fast Feather Track!


The Fast Feather Track is running on the Thursday, and sessions are about 
20 minutes long. It's a great chance for you to talk about your incubating 
project, either to attract new developers, new mentors, or inspire people 
with the cool stuff your project does and get them using it!


So, if you're going to be in Atlanta, why not sign up to give a talk on 
your project? While we've lots of great submissions already, I'm trying to 
keep some slots open for the incubator, as it really is a great 
experience, a good way to get new users and developers, and a preparation 
for full session slots for next year! Signup is through the web form at


 http://s.apache.org/FFT

Hopefully see many of you (presenting!) next week!

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Re: Git to SVN

[Nick Burch]

On Wed, 9 Nov 2011, Leo Neumeyer wrote:
Perhaps there are concerns about relying on a third party but for an 
organization powered by volunteers, using a free service like this could 
be a great benefit. Perhaps there are good reasons why this cannot be 
done but was wondering if it was discussed at all.


It's been discussed at great length, on several occasions

I'd suggest you have a browse through the infra and infra-dev list 
archives for at least some of it, along with the incubator general 
archives for discussions on why incubating podlings are not currently 
allowed to use git (it's come up a couple of times recently)


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Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)

[Nick Burch]

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011, Sam Ruby wrote:

Meanwhile, I will personally focus on JSPWiki.  If others wish to join
me, here is a a current list of projects that have been incubating
more than a year:


I've been meaning to try to help out with JSPWiki for a while, but I've 
not yet had the time. If there's going to be more than one of us though, 
then hopefully the work involved will be something I can commit to


Currently the JSPWiki mentors are listed as:
 * snoopdave - Dave Johnson
 * clr - Craig Russell
 * henning - Henning Schmiedehausen
 * rubys - Sam Ruby

Are any of the others currently active and able to help?

(My hunch from having spoken to a few jspwiki community members is that we 
need to have another go at helping them understand the apache way, then 
give a deadline, but I've not looked in detail to be sure)


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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.5-incubating RC5

[Nick Burch]

On Tue, 20 Dec 2011, Devin Han wrote:

I also see Apache POI keeping JUnit statement in their LICENSE file:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/poi/trunk/legal/LICENSE


We do ship the junit jar in some of our release artifacts though, which is 
why it's there


(It's also worth pointing out that long standing projects may not always 
be following the latest best practice on notice files, so they're not 
always the best models to follow)


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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.5-incubating(RC7)

[Nick Burch]

On Mon, 9 Jan 2012, Devin Han wrote:

The vote is open for 72 hours, or until we get the needed number of votes
(3 +1).


Looks good to me, I'm +1 to the release (IPMC binding)

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Re: [VOTE] RAT Ready To Graduate As Apache Creadur Top Level Project

[Nick Burch]

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
The graduation guide[1] recommends that the Rat community demonstrates 
it's willingness to govern itself through a free VOTE before asking the 
IPMC to approve graduation. So, here it is :-)


+1, good luck!

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Re: Incubator Wiki write access

[Nick Burch]

On Wed, 2 May 2012, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
I went to go take care of this so Jukka wouldn't have to, but I don't 
have write access yet myself. :)  Can someone please add me?


Wiki user: MarvinHumphrey


I've added you to the admin group[1], so you can add others to the 
Contributors group[2] going forward


I've also added Fabian to the Contributors group, so his original problem 
should be solved too!


Nick

[1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/AdminGroup
[2] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ContributorsGroup

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Re: Incubator Wiki write access

[Nick Burch]

On Wed, 2 May 2012, Raymond Feng wrote:

I need write access too to copy and sign off the Amber report.

RaymondFeng
rf...@apache.org


Should be granted now

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Re: Request for permissions to edit Blur Proposal

[Nick Burch]

On Fri, 13 Jul 2012, Aaron McCurry wrote:

I am requesting permission to be able to edit the
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BlurProposal wiki page, so that I may
respond to comments made on the proposal.


Karma granted. Please remember though that the mailing list is often 
better than the wiki for discussions!


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Possible software grant for POI

[Nick Burch]

Hi All

With my POI PMC chair hat on, I've been speaking to the company behind the 
OpenXML4J[1] library. Within POI, we use OpenXML4J for the fiddly bits in 
dealing with ooxml files.


The company behind OpenXML4J would like OpenXML4J to become part of POI. 
Having spoken with Robert Burrell Donkin about it, we think that a 
software grant would probably be the best bet. (Most users of OpenXML4J do 
so through POI, and poi committers currently make up half the OpenXML4J 
committer base)


Is the process as documented at
http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html
the correct one to follow for this?

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[1] http://www.openxml4j.org/

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[IP CLEARANCE] OpenXML4J

[Nick Burch]

Hi All

As per the IP Clearance template, POI has received a software grant for 
OpenXML4J, and we'd like to get the OK for this. The template in svn is 
filled out as openxml4j.xml, and the source bundle is available from
http://people.apache.org/~nick/OpenXML4J-Grant/ . An appropriate software 
grant has been received and filed, as have the ccla/iclas.


Lazy consensus 72 hours would appear to run to 18:00 GMT on Friday 14th. 
Please do let me know if we've anything wrong in the process :)


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[RESULT] [IP CLEARANCE] OpenXML4J

[Nick Burch]

On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Nick Burch wrote:
As per the IP Clearance template, POI has received a software grant for 
OpenXML4J, and we'd like to get the OK for this.



Lazy consensus 72 hours would appear to run to 18:00 GMT on Friday 14th.


The last consensus 72 hours passed without comment, so this has now passed

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Re: [RESULT] [IP CLEARANCE] OpenXML4J

[Nick Burch]

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:

Could you please add this when you do the final update of the
ip-clearance/openxml4j.html page?


OK, I've added in the md5 to the document, along with links to this thread 
etc


And maybe move the code archive to a JIRA issue so that it stays 
available.


We use Bugzilla for POI, and I've opened a new bug there to track it. 
Unfortunately, Bugzilla won't let me upload a 2.3mb file, so the code 
isn't attached to it just yet. I'm going to ask infra about getting that 
attached though.


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IP clearance template - tweak sanity check

[Nick Burch]

Hi All

I hit a snag when trying to fill out the IP clearance template, in the 
"Identify name recorded for software grant" section, as it used to only 
refer to grants.txt. Based on advice from Craig wearing his secretary hat, 
I've updated that to handle grants given as part of a CCLA, as well as 
giving some guidance on what to write there.


The new text is now about twice as long, but hopefully clearer on how to 
fill it out. A sanity check from others would be good though!


It's at http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html
then scroll to the Copyright section

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IP clearance template - tweak sanity check

[Nick Burch]

Hi All

I hit a snag when trying to fill out the IP clearance template, in the 
"Identify name recorded for software grant" section, as it used to only 
refer to grants.txt. Based on advice from Craig wearing his secretary hat, 
I've updated that to handle grants given as part of a CCLA, as well as 
giving some guidance on what to write there.


The new text is now about twice as long, but hopefully clearer on how to 
fill it out. A sanity check from others would be good though!


It's at http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html
then scroll to the Copyright section

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Re: IP clearance template - tweak sanity check

[Nick Burch]

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015, Craig L Russell wrote:

Nice work. Just one comment, typo “form” should be “for”.

Original: If recorded in the cclas.txt document, use the company name (field 2 
without submitter name) and the form name (field 4, without any people's names).

Proposed: If recorded in the cclas.txt document, use the company name (field 2 
without submitter name) and the for name (field 4, without any people's names).


Field 4 is the "form on file" name though, which is why I'd written it as 
form. How about:


If recorded in the grants.txt document, use the "for" or title. If 
recorded in the cclas.txt document, use the company name (field 2 
without submitter name) and the "form on file" name (field 4, without 
any people's names).


Would that work and be clear?

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[IP CLEARANCE] Apache POI - Visio XDGF

[Nick Burch]

Hi All

We think we've now done everything for the IP Clearance of the Visio XDGF 
contribution to Apache POI. The completed template can be found at:

http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/poi-visio.html

Please do let us know if we've missed anything / done anything wrong! 
Otherwise, we'll start the count for the 72 hour timer for a lazy 
consensus from now.


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Re: Wiki Access for project proposal

[Nick Burch]

On Tue, 15 Sep 2015, Kris Popat wrote:
Can someone give me write access to the wiki so I can put up the ORDs 
project proposal. I’ve registered an account and my username is 
krispopat


Karma granted


Also, assuming you're based in Oxford too, while I don't have the cycles 
to help mentor ORDS at the moment, I could probably manage an hour over 
lunch / a pint one evening, to offer some incubation advice


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Re: Request for write access to Incubator Wiki

[Nick Burch]

On Wed, 4 Nov 2015, aditi hilbert wrote:
I would like to be granted write access to the Apache Wiki for the 
Apache Incubator. I shall be posting the status report content on behalf 
of the new Mynewt project.


My username is ‘aditihilbert'


Karma granted, good luck with the report!

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Re: Wiki account activation

[Nick Burch]

On Thu, 3 Dec 2015, Tony Faustini wrote:
Hi, would it be possible to activate my account so I can populate the 
incubator Wiki with the proposal I sent to this mailing list yesterday?


Karma granted, good luck!

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Re: Edit Access For Wiki

[Nick Burch]

On Tue, 8 Dec 2015, Gaurav Shukla wrote:
I would like to request edit access for concerted wiki. My username is 
GauravShukla


Karma granted, enjoy!

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Re: Request wiki access

[Nick Burch]

On Sun, 21 Feb 2016, kellen sunderland wrote:

Hello, I'd like to request wiki access.  My username on the wiki is
KellenSunderland.


Karma granted, enjoy!

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Re: Need access to Incubator Wiki

[Nick Burch]

On Thu, 3 Mar 2016, Gino Bustelo wrote:

I need access to be able to push Apache Toree updates.


You'll need to tell us your Incubator wiki username if we're to be able to 
help!


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Re: Need access to Incubator Wiki

[Nick Burch]

On Thu, 3 Mar 2016, Gino Bustelo wrote:

lbustelo


Karma granted, enjoy editing!

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Re: Need access to Incubator Wiki

[Nick Burch]

On Wed, 2 Mar 2016, Gino Bustelo wrote:

I need access to be able to push Apache Toree updates.


If you can let us know your username for the incubator wiki (register if 
you haven't already - it doesn't use your main apache credentials), then 
one of us can grant you the karma


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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Omid for Apache Incubator

[Nick Burch]

On Fri, 18 Mar 2016, Greg Trasuk wrote:
I don’t think it’s the Incubator’s job to choose which competing 
projects should join the foundation.  All we’re here to do is to make 
sure that a community knows how to act like an Apache community, and 
that the artifacts are licensed properly.


This is only my view, and I know that some key incubator folks think 
it's too prescriptive, but I have seen it work


TL;DR - Alternate ideas and approaches Good, Confusion or Corporatism Bad

Where we have two different communities, working in the same space, but in 
different languages or different approaches, then that's fine. The ASF 
doesn't pick "winners", it picks "runners". So, having a Batch 
implementation of the Foo protocol in C, and having a proposed podling for 
a Streaming implementation of the Foo protocol in Java is fine.


Where we have two different companies doing rival implementations who 
refuse to co-operate, that's an issue. Two companies who are competitors, 
who both read the "Foo protocol" spec / Foo paper, and who found rival 
projects to implement Foo in Java, is a problem. They don't have a 
technical distinction, just a refusal to co-operate and a refusal to take 
off $DAYJOB hats and a refusal to work for the best interests of the 
community. That's an issue for the incubator and the ASF


If we have a similar proposed project coming in, I would expect the 
proposed project to have a chat with the existing one to see if a merger 
is possible. If they're in the same langauge, and take similar approaches, 
then a merger could deliver a better community with more features, which 
would be better for everyone.


However, if they two communities had a chat, and decided they really were 
different + could explain that, then in my book that's fine. Document and 
explain those, so potential new community members can pick the "right" one 
for them. Maybe collaborate on some common code / tests / etc, don't 
bad-mouth each other, and help new people pick the appropriate one for 
them, then that's fine.


AcmeCorp and Contoso both want to bring a Java project for doing Foo, and 
won't co-operate because they're competitors = red flag


AcmeCorp found a Ruby project for Foo, grow it, bring it to the ASF, then 
a formerly Contoso backed Java project for Foo comes, fine.


AcmeCorp did a "Foo for 1-3 machines that's easy to get started with" and 
want to bring that, while Contoso have been working on a Foo that's a bit 
tough to setup for small clusters, but scales brilliantly past 3 racks, 
that's fine. The can share some Foo compliance tests, and new community 
members can consider their deployment sizes and pick the "right" one to 
join for them



Only my view, though at least some others share it, I hope that helps at 
least a little?


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Re: Please add me to the incubator's contributors group

[Nick Burch]

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016, Siddharth Anand wrote:

Siddharth Anand


If you can tell us what username you signed up to the incubator wiki with, 
then one of us can do so for you


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Re: The Apache Way incubator page

[Nick Burch]

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016, Christopher wrote:

The page at
http://incubator.apache.org/learn/theapacheway.html

needs to be updated to reflect the new location of the ComDev mailing
lists. It is no longer commun...@apache.org (and
community-subscr...@apache.org), but is instead d...@community.apache.org
(and dev-subscr...@community.apache.org).


Thanks, updated now!

FYI, you can use the CMS to quickly generate patches for the site, and 
even commit + publish if you have karma. See 
http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref.html for details of the bookmarklet 
that'll let you do so easily :)


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Re: Need access to Incubator Wiki

[Nick Burch]

On Mon, 4 Apr 2016, Gino Bustelo wrote:
I tried to log in with 'lbustelo'. I don't have a password so I asked it 
to be sent this morning. Still no mail.


Normally the process is to create an account, setting your password at 
that time, then ask us to grant that new account wiki karma


What happens when you try with the password you gave when you regsitered 
for a wiki account?


(Note - the wiki doesn't use the main Apache ID ldap database!)

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Re: Need access to Incubator Wiki

[Nick Burch]

On Mon, 4 Apr 2016, Gino Bustelo wrote:

Ok... so then lets try it with user 'GinoBustelo'


OK, GinoBustelo granted karma too!

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Re: wiki access

[Nick Burch]

On Mon, 4 Apr 2016, Matt Post wrote:
I am a contributor to an Apache incubator project (Joshua) and have 
created a wiki account (MattPost). Can I please have write access to:


https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/April2016


Karma granted, good luck with your report this month!

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Re: Request to grant write access on Incubator Wiki to aditihilbert

[Nick Burch]

On Tue, 5 Apr 2016, aditi hilbert wrote:
Please grant me write access by adding my account to the 
ContributorsGroup. My Incubator wiki username is aditihilbert.


Karma granted, enjoy!

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Re: Request to grant write access on Incubator Wiki to aditihilbert

[Nick Burch]

On Wed, 6 Apr 2016, Sean Zhong wrote:

Can you also grant mine?

My wiki id is: seanzhong, and the project is Apache Gearpump.


Done!

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Re: wiki access

[Nick Burch]

On Wed, 6 Apr 2016, William Marshall wrote:
I am a committer to the incubating Apache Quarks. Can I please have 
write access to https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/April2016 ?


You'll need to let us know your wiki username first!

Note that the incubator wiki doesn't use the main Apache LDAP system, so 
you need to sign up for a new account on the wiki if you haven't already


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Re: wiki access

[Nick Burch]

On Thu, 7 Apr 2016, Masatake Iwasaki wrote:

I am a committer of Apache HTrace (incubating).
I would like a permission to edit wiki to update board report.
(https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/April2016)

My user name in the wiki is MasatakeIwasaki.


Karma granted!

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Re: Request for Incubator Wiki Access

[Nick Burch]

On Tue, 19 Apr 2016, Christopher wrote:

Can I get edit access to the Wiki?

Username: ChristopherTubbs


Karma granted, enjoy editing!

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Re: Editing ACEU16PodlingSharkTank

[Nick Burch]

On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:

I would like to update:
https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ACEU16PodlingSharkTank

However, the page looks "immutable".


I've temporarily changed the permissions on that one page, so anyone can 
edit. We can leave it like that until the event, or until a spammer finds 
it, whichever is first... (Normally these pages are fine for a few weeks 
at least!)


Handy reminder for wiki admins - if it would help to have a page editable 
by everyone for a week or two, you just need to pop something like this at 
the top of the page:

#acl All:read,write
# Leave as writable by all for 2 weeks, then lock down

Then be sure to keep an eye on the page and fix up any issues. Only an 
option for child pages though, must never be done for the main wiki index 
page as that gets probed by spammers very often :/


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Re: Shark Tank Wiki

[Nick Burch]

On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Steve Blackmon wrote:
I (Apache/wiki id ’SteveBlackmon') would like to present podling Streams 
during

https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ACEU16PodlingSharkTank

Would someone please grant me edit access


That page should temporarily be world-writable, so just go ahead and edit 
it yourself!


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Re: Request edit access to Incubator Wiki

[Nick Burch]

On Tue, 10 May 2016, Sijie Guo wrote:
I'd like to request edit access to Incubator Wiki for my account 
'sijieg' - so I could create a incubator proposal. Could anyone help me?


Karma granted, enjoy!

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