Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal of Shenyu

[Yu Xiao]

Hi Sheng & IPMC,

We are very appreciate about the helpful feedback from you and IPMC. Thank
you all!

We have discussed the current situation of ShenYu project and the points to
be improved with our mentors these days, as follows:

We we come to an agreement that too high a bar for initial committer ship
can be detrimental to the project.

Further more, we notice that Justin already had mentioned "It best to keep
the committer bar low".

Based on the suggestions from mentors, We nominating additional committers
based on their contributions to the project.

And active to refine the committers list. After several days of discussion
[1], we re-elected the initial committers.

It can find the detail info in the proposal which we have updated the
proposal, refer to [2].

We notices that the ShenYu community is not diverse enough, and we learned
that we really need for a more diverse community.

I believe that, this is also our original intention to dedicate ShenYu to
Apache community.

We hope that more friends from any companies and any countries around the
world will participate in ShenYu project.

I and the PMC of ShenYu will pay more attention to this and appreciate the
mentors and IPMC to supervise.

The open,fair and elite spirit of Apache foundation is worthy of continuous
learning by myself and ShenYu project.

I believe ShenYu's join in Apache incubator will be a happy journey of
continuous learning.

The Apache way is our way. Any feedback and guidance are welcome!

XiaoYu & Jincheng

[1] https://github.com/dromara/soul/issues/1282
[2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/ShenYuProposal

kezhenxu94@apache  于2021年4月21日周三 下午9:32写道：

> In addition to Sheng’s list, I’ll also suggest the community to reconsider
> the project name “ShenYu”, because from a quick search, there are several
> potential branding / trademark conflicts, such as [1], [2], and [3].
>
> Note that there is no official Chinese names for ASF Projects so you won’t
> have “神禹” officially to distinguish yourself from others with the same
> pinyin “ShenYu”.
>
> You may not want to change the name again later b/c that's a lot of work
> and can be disruptive to your community, as you’ve already changed once.
>
> [1] SHENYU Official Store 
> [2] Shenyu 
> [3] 神鱼（SHENYU）京东自营旗舰店 https://shenyu.jd.com
>
> > On Apr 19, 2021, at 21:24, Sheng Wu  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Shenyu community
> >
> > IPMC has an internal discussion these 2 days. My concerns have been
> > resolved.
> > Some IPMC members want to give the following suggestions to the Shenyu's
> > team
> > - The incubating evaluation process only runs some checks on project
> > branding, IP clearance, and community-related issues.
> > - There is no endorsement of the project's technology from Apache or the
> > mentor side even if the project is accepted by Apache Incubator.
> > - Company affiliations of potential committers shouldn't matter. Anyone
> can
> > become a committer not matter who they work for.
> > - Code and no of commits is not the only activity that result in
> > committership.
> > - It is best to keep the committer bar low.
> > - Dictators / leaders, friendly or other wise are not welcome. The code
> and
> > management of that must be given over to the community.
> > - Don't play the number game. The Apache counts on the real community
> > activities. A TLP could be a big or small community, but need to be real.
> >
> > These are going to be very important with other Apache cultures you need
> to
> > learn and follow.
> > If you are willing to learn and follow from your experienced mentors and
> > IPMC, I am welcome you to join the incubator journey.
> >
> > And this kind of argument is normal, you will experience more and must
> have
> > to face -1 one day, at least when releasing, which would not be pleasant
> > always and also normal cases. :)
> > Once you get the idea and baseline, it would not be that hard.
> >
> > Work closely with your community and mentors, have good luck.
> > I am looking forward to your new proposal.
> >
> > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> > Sheng Wu  于2021年4月18日周日 下午2:41写道：
> >
> >> Thanks, Duo.
> >> Look forward to a better version of their proposal.
> >>
> >> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >> Twitter, wusheng1108
> >>
> >> 张铎(Duo Zhang)  于2021年4月18日周日 下午12:11写道：
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Willem for clarifying.
> >>>
> >>> As long as the community status is not important when joining
> incubtor(it
> >>> is important when graduating), and there are some concerns, let's
> remove
> >>> the sensitive words such as 'diverse' in the proposal, just mention
> that
> >>> the project is already open sourced and has an initial community, so we
> >> do
> >>> not need to argue on this any more.
> >>> And lack of English skill is a problem. Talking with the project
> leaders,
> >>> they need to use google translate a lot when the topic i

Mentors Wanted for Apache MXNet

[Sheng Zha]

Dear IPMC members,

MXNet is in need for your help. We would like to request for more active 
mentors to accompany us on the last segment of the journey in the Incubator 
towards graduation. If you are interested in helping us keep deep learning 
accessible, please reach out to us at priv...@mxnet.apache.org.

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Re: Release Helm chart as a derived downstream software artifact

[Lewis John McGibbney]

Hi general@,

I wanted to loop around/close off this thread by stating what I did and what 
the results were.
With Gav McDonald's kind assistance I was able to publish the tika-helm [0] 
Charts to the Apache deployment of Artifactory/JFrog at [1]
The entire process is documented at [3] for anyone else who would like to 
replicate it.
Maybe it is time to update [3] and add Artifactory/JFrog as a deployment option?

Literally now someone who wanted to consume this artifact could literally do

% helm repo add tika https://apache.jfrog.io/artifactory/tika
% helm install tika tika/tika --version ${release_version}

Thanks
lewismc

[0] https://github.com/apache/tika-helm
[1] https://apache.jfrog.io/
[2] 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TIKA/Release+Process+for+tika-helm
[3] 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/Distribution+Guidelines

On 2021/04/17 02:54:30, Lewis John McGibbney  wrote: 
> Hi general@,
> I'm interested in releasing tika-helm [0]. tika-helm is a derived, downstream 
> Helm chart which provides a lightweight way to configure and run the official 
> apache/tika Docker image on Kubernetes.
> I would like the first release of this package to be an official Apache 
> release. I am therefore of the mindset that it should be treated as any other 
> official Apache source code release.
> Can someone point me to a precedent or policy pertaining to the publication 
> of derived downstream software artifacts such as containers, Helm charts, etc.
> Thank you
> lewismc
> 
> [0] https://github.com/apache/tika-helm
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Re: Release Helm chart as a derived downstream software artifact

[Josh Fischer]

+1

Thank you for documenting this. It will be extremely helpful with putting
release artifacts out there for  Heron.

- Josh

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 4:15 PM Lewis John McGibbney 
wrote:

> Hi general@,
>
> I wanted to loop around/close off this thread by stating what I did and
> what the results were.
> With Gav McDonald's kind assistance I was able to publish the tika-helm
> [0] Charts to the Apache deployment of Artifactory/JFrog at [1]
> The entire process is documented at [3] for anyone else who would like to
> replicate it.
> Maybe it is time to update [3] and add Artifactory/JFrog as a deployment
> option?
>
> Literally now someone who wanted to consume this artifact could literally
> do
>
> % helm repo add tika https://apache.jfrog.io/artifactory/tika
> % helm install tika tika/tika --version ${release_version}
>
> Thanks
> lewismc
>
> [0] https://github.com/apache/tika-helm
> [1] https://apache.jfrog.io/
> [2]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TIKA/Release+Process+for+tika-helm
> [3]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/Distribution+Guidelines
>
> On 2021/04/17 02:54:30, Lewis John McGibbney  wrote:
> > Hi general@,
> > I'm interested in releasing tika-helm [0]. tika-helm is a derived,
> downstream Helm chart which provides a lightweight way to configure and run
> the official apache/tika Docker image on Kubernetes.
> > I would like the first release of this package to be an official Apache
> release. I am therefore of the mindset that it should be treated as any
> other official Apache source code release.
> > Can someone point me to a precedent or policy pertaining to the
> publication of derived downstream software artifacts such as containers,
> Helm charts, etc.
> > Thank you
> > lewismc
> >
> > [0] https://github.com/apache/tika-helm
> >
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Re: Mentors Wanted for Apache MXNet

[kezhenxu94]

Hi, I’m interested in helping. Please count me in. 


—
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GitHub @kezhenxu94
Apache SkyWalking, IPMC

> On Apr 23, 2021, at 04:06, Sheng Zha  wrote:
> 
> Dear IPMC members,
> 
> MXNet is in need for your help. We would like to request for more active 
> mentors to accompany us on the last segment of the journey in the Incubator 
> towards graduation. If you are interested in helping us keep deep learning 
> accessible, please reach out to us at priv...@mxnet.apache.org.
> 
> Thanks,
> Sheng
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Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal of Shenyu

[Yu Xiao]

Hi Zhenxu,

We are very appreciative about the helpful feedback from you.

About the project name ShenYu, we just completed checks following the guide
from Apache [1].

We found the trademarks exist in Canadian and EUIPO via WIPO Global Brand
Search [2] in the Nice CI. 42.

After consulting with our mentors, we knew that the medical equipment
company and what they produce [3] will not likely be confused with this
product.

For other search results which are not in the Nice CI. 42, also will not be
confused.

We need more helpful comments from IPMC regarding the name. Thanks.

[1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html#namesearch
[2] https://www3.wipo.int/branddb/en/
[3]
http://www.ic.gc.ca/app/opic-cipo/trdmrks/srch/viewTrademark.html?Open=1&id=1819418-00&lang=eng&extension=00&startingDocumentIndexOnPage=1&fileNumber=1819418&wbdisable=true

Best Regards

Yu

Yu Xiao  于2021年4月22日周四 下午4:55写道：

> Hi Sheng & IPMC,
>
> We are very appreciate about the helpful feedback from you and IPMC. Thank
> you all!
>
> We have discussed the current situation of ShenYu project and the points
> to be improved with our mentors these days, as follows:
>
> We we come to an agreement that too high a bar for initial committer ship
> can be detrimental to the project.
>
> Further more, we notice that Justin already had mentioned "It best to keep
> the committer bar low".
>
> Based on the suggestions from mentors, We nominating additional committers
> based on their contributions to the project.
>
> And active to refine the committers list. After several days of discussion
> [1], we re-elected the initial committers.
>
> It can find the detail info in the proposal which we have updated the
> proposal, refer to [2].
>
> We notices that the ShenYu community is not diverse enough, and we learned
> that we really need for a more diverse community.
>
> I believe that, this is also our original intention to dedicate ShenYu to
> Apache community.
>
> We hope that more friends from any companies and any countries around the
> world will participate in ShenYu project.
>
> I and the PMC of ShenYu will pay more attention to this and appreciate the
> mentors and IPMC to supervise.
>
> The open,fair and elite spirit of Apache foundation is worthy of
> continuous learning by myself and ShenYu project.
>
> I believe ShenYu's join in Apache incubator will be a happy journey of
> continuous learning.
>
> The Apache way is our way. Any feedback and guidance are welcome!
>
> XiaoYu & Jincheng
>
> [1] https://github.com/dromara/soul/issues/1282
> [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/ShenYuProposal
>
> kezhenxu94@apache  于2021年4月21日周三 下午9:32写道：
>
>> In addition to Sheng’s list, I’ll also suggest the community to reconsider
>> the project name “ShenYu”, because from a quick search, there are several
>> potential branding / trademark conflicts, such as [1], [2], and [3].
>>
>> Note that there is no official Chinese names for ASF Projects so you won’t
>> have “神禹” officially to distinguish yourself from others with the same
>> pinyin “ShenYu”.
>>
>> You may not want to change the name again later b/c that's a lot of work
>> and can be disruptive to your community, as you’ve already changed once.
>>
>> [1] SHENYU Official Store 
>> [2] Shenyu 
>> [3] 神鱼（SHENYU）京东自营旗舰店 https://shenyu.jd.com
>>
>> > On Apr 19, 2021, at 21:24, Sheng Wu  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Shenyu community
>> >
>> > IPMC has an internal discussion these 2 days. My concerns have been
>> > resolved.
>> > Some IPMC members want to give the following suggestions to the Shenyu's
>> > team
>> > - The incubating evaluation process only runs some checks on project
>> > branding, IP clearance, and community-related issues.
>> > - There is no endorsement of the project's technology from Apache or the
>> > mentor side even if the project is accepted by Apache Incubator.
>> > - Company affiliations of potential committers shouldn't matter. Anyone
>> can
>> > become a committer not matter who they work for.
>> > - Code and no of commits is not the only activity that result in
>> > committership.
>> > - It is best to keep the committer bar low.
>> > - Dictators / leaders, friendly or other wise are not welcome. The code
>> and
>> > management of that must be given over to the community.
>> > - Don't play the number game. The Apache counts on the real community
>> > activities. A TLP could be a big or small community, but need to be
>> real.
>> >
>> > These are going to be very important with other Apache cultures you
>> need to
>> > learn and follow.
>> > If you are willing to learn and follow from your experienced mentors and
>> > IPMC, I am welcome you to join the incubator journey.
>> >
>> > And this kind of argument is normal, you will experience more and must
>> have
>> > to face -1 one day, at least when releasing, which would not be pleasant
>> > always and also normal cases. :)
>> > Once you

Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal of Shenyu

[Sheng Wu]

>From my understanding, these known things related to Shenyu from a name
text perspective are fine.
Once the Shenyu's team feels this would impact your further marketing, it
is fine to Incubator.

Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108


Yu Xiao  于2021年4月23日周五 上午10:01写道：

> Hi Zhenxu,
>
> We are very appreciative about the helpful feedback from you.
>
> About the project name ShenYu, we just completed checks following the guide
> from Apache [1].
>
> We found the trademarks exist in Canadian and EUIPO via WIPO Global Brand
> Search [2] in the Nice CI. 42.
>
> After consulting with our mentors, we knew that the medical equipment
> company and what they produce [3] will not likely be confused with this
> product.
>
> For other search results which are not in the Nice CI. 42, also will not be
> confused.
>
> We need more helpful comments from IPMC regarding the name. Thanks.
>
> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html#namesearch
> [2] https://www3.wipo.int/branddb/en/
> [3]
>
> http://www.ic.gc.ca/app/opic-cipo/trdmrks/srch/viewTrademark.html?Open=1&id=1819418-00&lang=eng&extension=00&startingDocumentIndexOnPage=1&fileNumber=1819418&wbdisable=true
>
> Best Regards
>
> Yu
>
> Yu Xiao  于2021年4月22日周四 下午4:55写道：
>
> > Hi Sheng & IPMC,
> >
> > We are very appreciate about the helpful feedback from you and IPMC.
> Thank
> > you all!
> >
> > We have discussed the current situation of ShenYu project and the points
> > to be improved with our mentors these days, as follows:
> >
> > We we come to an agreement that too high a bar for initial committer ship
> > can be detrimental to the project.
> >
> > Further more, we notice that Justin already had mentioned "It best to
> keep
> > the committer bar low".
> >
> > Based on the suggestions from mentors, We nominating additional
> committers
> > based on their contributions to the project.
> >
> > And active to refine the committers list. After several days of
> discussion
> > [1], we re-elected the initial committers.
> >
> > It can find the detail info in the proposal which we have updated the
> > proposal, refer to [2].
> >
> > We notices that the ShenYu community is not diverse enough, and we
> learned
> > that we really need for a more diverse community.
> >
> > I believe that, this is also our original intention to dedicate ShenYu to
> > Apache community.
> >
> > We hope that more friends from any companies and any countries around the
> > world will participate in ShenYu project.
> >
> > I and the PMC of ShenYu will pay more attention to this and appreciate
> the
> > mentors and IPMC to supervise.
> >
> > The open,fair and elite spirit of Apache foundation is worthy of
> > continuous learning by myself and ShenYu project.
> >
> > I believe ShenYu's join in Apache incubator will be a happy journey of
> > continuous learning.
> >
> > The Apache way is our way. Any feedback and guidance are welcome!
> >
> > XiaoYu & Jincheng
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/dromara/soul/issues/1282
> > [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/ShenYuProposal
> >
> > kezhenxu94@apache  于2021年4月21日周三 下午9:32写道：
> >
> >> In addition to Sheng’s list, I’ll also suggest the community to
> reconsider
> >> the project name “ShenYu”, because from a quick search, there are
> several
> >> potential branding / trademark conflicts, such as [1], [2], and [3].
> >>
> >> Note that there is no official Chinese names for ASF Projects so you
> won’t
> >> have “神禹” officially to distinguish yourself from others with the same
> >> pinyin “ShenYu”.
> >>
> >> You may not want to change the name again later b/c that's a lot of work
> >> and can be disruptive to your community, as you’ve already changed once.
> >>
> >> [1] SHENYU Official Store 
> >> [2] Shenyu 
> >> [3] 神鱼（SHENYU）京东自营旗舰店 https://shenyu.jd.com
> >>
> >> > On Apr 19, 2021, at 21:24, Sheng Wu 
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi Shenyu community
> >> >
> >> > IPMC has an internal discussion these 2 days. My concerns have been
> >> > resolved.
> >> > Some IPMC members want to give the following suggestions to the
> Shenyu's
> >> > team
> >> > - The incubating evaluation process only runs some checks on project
> >> > branding, IP clearance, and community-related issues.
> >> > - There is no endorsement of the project's technology from Apache or
> the
> >> > mentor side even if the project is accepted by Apache Incubator.
> >> > - Company affiliations of potential committers shouldn't matter.
> Anyone
> >> can
> >> > become a committer not matter who they work for.
> >> > - Code and no of commits is not the only activity that result in
> >> > committership.
> >> > - It is best to keep the committer bar low.
> >> > - Dictators / leaders, friendly or other wise are not welcome. The
> code
> >> and
> >> > management of that must be given over to the community.
> >> > - Don't play the number game. The Apache counts on the real community
> >> > activities. A TLP coul

Re: [DISCUSS] YunionCloud Proposal

[Jian Qiu]

Dear all,

We received valuable comments from Dave, Justin, Willem and other community
members. We decided to choose ChaCloud as our project name. Cha represents
Chakra, which refers to seven spiritual energy points in the human body
in several ancient meditations practice (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra). So we interpret ChaCloud as a
'mighty' cloud that is composed of multiple (i.e. seven or more) clouds,
which is in accordance with the purpose of this project.

Now we are going to proceed to bring our project into Apache Incubator.
More comments are welcome.

Many thanks,

Jian Qiu

Juan Pan  于2021年4月21日周三 下午5:12写道：

> Hi,
>
>
> This discussion is a nice start for the open-source community building.
> I left my preference in that issue, hope it goes well. :)
>
>
>
> ---
> Email：panj...@apache.org
> Juan Pan(Trista) Apache ShardingSphere
>
>
> On 04/19/2021 11:47，Jian Qiu wrote：
> Dear all,
>
> During the last few days, we came out with several candidate names. There
> is a vote on github: https://github.com/yunionio/yunioncloud/issues/10788
>
> You are welcome to vote or leave your comments.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Jian Qiu
>
> Nick Kew  于2021年4月17日周六 上午3:14写道：
>
>
>
> On 16 Apr 2021, at 14:35, Willem Jiang  wrote:
>
> The literal translation "壹云" means "One Cloud".
> Maybe we need to think of a totally different name to avoid the
> conflict with the company name.
>
> Fascinating seeing you translate something so alien to my European eyes,
> into something mundane.
>
> Perhaps consider a name that preserves the meaning but adds cultural
> context?
> For example, we associate dragons with China (as well as Wales!), which
> might
> suggest "DragonCloud" (google translate makes that 龍雲).
>
> But I'm sure those involved with the project will have better ideas than my
> cultural blundering!
>
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Re: Mentors Wanted for Apache MXNet

[Atri Sharma]

Please count me in

On Fri, 23 Apr 2021, 01:36 Sheng Zha,  wrote:

> Dear IPMC members,
>
> MXNet is in need for your help. We would like to request for more active
> mentors to accompany us on the last segment of the journey in the Incubator
> towards graduation. If you are interested in helping us keep deep learning
> accessible, please reach out to us at priv...@mxnet.apache.org.
>
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> Sheng
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