>From my understanding, these known things related to Shenyu from a name text perspective are fine. Once the Shenyu's team feels this would impact your further marketing, it is fine to Incubator.
Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 Yu Xiao <xia...@apache.org> 于2021年4月23日周五 上午10:01写道： > Hi Zhenxu, > > We are very appreciative about the helpful feedback from you. > > About the project name ShenYu, we just completed checks following the guide > from Apache [1]. > > We found the trademarks exist in Canadian and EUIPO via WIPO Global Brand > Search [2] in the Nice CI. 42. > > After consulting with our mentors, we knew that the medical equipment > company and what they produce [3] will not likely be confused with this > product. > > For other search results which are not in the Nice CI. 42, also will not be > confused. > > We need more helpful comments from IPMC regarding the name. Thanks. > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html#namesearch > [2] https://www3.wipo.int/branddb/en/ > [3] > > http://www.ic.gc.ca/app/opic-cipo/trdmrks/srch/viewTrademark.html?Open=1&id=1819418-00&lang=eng&extension=00&startingDocumentIndexOnPage=1&fileNumber=1819418&wbdisable=true > > Best Regards > > Yu > > Yu Xiao <xia...@apache.org> 于2021年4月22日周四 下午4:55写道： > > > Hi Sheng & IPMC, > > > > We are very appreciate about the helpful feedback from you and IPMC. > Thank > > you all! > > > > We have discussed the current situation of ShenYu project and the points > > to be improved with our mentors these days, as follows: > > > > We we come to an agreement that too high a bar for initial committer ship > > can be detrimental to the project. > > > > Further more, we notice that Justin already had mentioned "It best to > keep > > the committer bar low". > > > > Based on the suggestions from mentors, We nominating additional > committers > > based on their contributions to the project. > > > > And active to refine the committers list. After several days of > discussion > > [1], we re-elected the initial committers. > > > > It can find the detail info in the proposal which we have updated the > > proposal, refer to [2]. > > > > We notices that the ShenYu community is not diverse enough, and we > learned > > that we really need for a more diverse community. > > > > I believe that, this is also our original intention to dedicate ShenYu to > > Apache community. > > > > We hope that more friends from any companies and any countries around the > > world will participate in ShenYu project. > > > > I and the PMC of ShenYu will pay more attention to this and appreciate > the > > mentors and IPMC to supervise. > > > > The open,fair and elite spirit of Apache foundation is worthy of > > continuous learning by myself and ShenYu project. > > > > I believe ShenYu's join in Apache incubator will be a happy journey of > > continuous learning. > > > > The Apache way is our way. Any feedback and guidance are welcome! > > > > XiaoYu & Jincheng > > > > [1] https://github.com/dromara/soul/issues/1282 > > [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/ShenYuProposal > > > > kezhenxu94@apache <kezhenx...@apache.org> 于2021年4月21日周三 下午9:32写道： > > > >> In addition to Sheng’s list, I’ll also suggest the community to > reconsider > >> the project name “ShenYu”, because from a quick search, there are > several > >> potential branding / trademark conflicts, such as [1], [2], and [3]. > >> > >> Note that there is no official Chinese names for ASF Projects so you > won’t > >> have “神禹” officially to distinguish yourself from others with the same > >> pinyin “ShenYu”. > >> > >> You may not want to change the name again later b/c that's a lot of work > >> and can be disruptive to your community, as you’ve already changed once. > >> > >> [1] SHENYU Official Store <https://www.aliexpress.com/store/2792168> > >> [2] Shenyu <http://www.shenyu-group.com/en/> > >> [3] 神鱼（SHENYU）京东自营旗舰店 https://shenyu.jd.com > >> > >> > On Apr 19, 2021, at 21:24, Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > > >> > Hi Shenyu community > >> > > >> > IPMC has an internal discussion these 2 days. My concerns have been > >> > resolved. > >> > Some IPMC members want to give the following suggestions to the > Shenyu's > >> > team > >> > - The incubating evaluation process only runs some checks on project > >> > branding, IP clearance, and community-related issues. > >> > - There is no endorsement of the project's technology from Apache or > the > >> > mentor side even if the project is accepted by Apache Incubator. > >> > - Company affiliations of potential committers shouldn't matter. > Anyone > >> can > >> > become a committer not matter who they work for. > >> > - Code and no of commits is not the only activity that result in > >> > committership. > >> > - It is best to keep the committer bar low. > >> > - Dictators / leaders, friendly or other wise are not welcome. The > code > >> and > >> > management of that must be given over to the community. > >> > - Don't play the number game. The Apache counts on the real community > >> > activities. A TLP could be a big or small community, but need to be > >> real. > >> > > >> > These are going to be very important with other Apache cultures you > >> need to > >> > learn and follow. > >> > If you are willing to learn and follow from your experienced mentors > and > >> > IPMC, I am welcome you to join the incubator journey. > >> > > >> > And this kind of argument is normal, you will experience more and must > >> have > >> > to face -1 one day, at least when releasing, which would not be > pleasant > >> > always and also normal cases. :) > >> > Once you get the idea and baseline, it would not be that hard. > >> > > >> > Work closely with your community and mentors, have good luck. > >> > I am looking forward to your new proposal. > >> > > >> > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > >> > Twitter, wusheng1108 > >> > > >> > > >> > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > >> > Twitter, wusheng1108 > >> > > >> > > >> > Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> 于2021年4月18日周日 下午2:41写道： > >> > > >> >> Thanks, Duo. > >> >> Look forward to a better version of their proposal. > >> >> > >> >> Sheng Wu 吴晟 > >> >> Twitter, wusheng1108 > >> >> > >> >> 张铎(Duo Zhang) <palomino...@gmail.com> 于2021年4月18日周日 下午12:11写道： > >> >>> > >> >>> Thanks Willem for clarifying. > >> >>> > >> >>> As long as the community status is not important when joining > >> incubtor(it > >> >>> is important when graduating), and there are some concerns, let's > >> remove > >> >>> the sensitive words such as 'diverse' in the proposal, just mention > >> that > >> >>> the project is already open sourced and has an initial community, so > >> we > >> >> do > >> >>> not need to argue on this any more. > >> >>> And lack of English skill is a problem. Talking with the project > >> leaders, > >> >>> they need to use google translate a lot when the topic is not about > >> tech, > >> >>> so it is easy for them to be misunderstood. > >> >>> > >> >>> So let's focus on the problems which must be solved before joining > the > >> >>> incubator. I think the initial committer candidate is a problem and > I > >> saw > >> >>> the project leaders have already started to solve it. > >> >>> > >> >>> And also, I agree with Willem that, joining incubator does not mean > >> >>> endorsement from ASF and the mentors about technology. We just want > to > >> >> help > >> >>> the project to build the community in Apache way in the future. > >> >>> > >> >>> Thanks. > >> >>> > >> >>> Willem Jiang <willem.ji...@gmail.com> 于2021年4月17日周六 下午11:08写道： > >> >>> > >> >>>> After having some talk with the project leaders, we will start a > >> >>>> discussion in the dromara community to make a clear initial > committer > >> >>>> choosing standard. > >> >>>> Then we will update the initial committer list by asking the > selected > >> >>>> committer if they want to join as the initial committer. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> BTW, to be more clear, the incubating evaluation process only runs > >> >>>> some checks on project branding, IP clearance and community related > >> >>>> issues. > >> >>>> There is no endorsement of the project's technology from Apache or > >> the > >> >>>> mentor side if the project is accepted by Apache Incubator. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Willem Jiang > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Twitter: willemjiang > >> >>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem > >> >>>> > >> >>>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 7:36 AM Justin Mclean < > >> >> jus...@classsoftware.com> > >> >>>> wrote: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Hi, > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>>> We have make the election criterion of initial committer: > >> >> continuously > >> >>>>>>> contribute for the last one year, code of lines over 3000, > commits > >> >>>> over 15. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> While not as high as some TLP this seems a little too high to me. > A > >> >> year > >> >>>> is a long time for someone to hang about on the chance they become > a > >> >>>> committer. They will probably make your incubation journey longer. > >> It’s > >> >>>> also important to remember that people should b able to become > >> >> committers > >> >>>> by not contributing code but by helping out in other ways, in > >> >> particular > >> >>>> anything to do with community building. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>>> So Yonglun Zhang, Jinwei Qin and Lei Zhang will be removed from > >> >> the > >> >>>>>>> committers list. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> There is no real harm is having more initial committers. The PMC / > >> >>>> committer list can be refined at graduation and people who have not > >> >> made > >> >>>> contributions removed. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>>> During 2020-11~2020-12, we held source code sharing events. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Who was involved in the organisation f these events, I hope they > are > >> >> on > >> >>>> the initial committer list. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Thanks, > >> >>>>> Justin > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >> > >> > >> ————————— > >> Zhenxu Ke (柯振旭) > >> GitHub @kezhenxu94 > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > >> >
