[Freesurfer] LGi computation on computer cluster

2013-10-03 Thread Jon Wieser
Hio
We want to compute the LGI index, using our local computing cluster.  the 
cluster does not have matlab or it's image processing toolbox on the computing 
nodes.  Which matlab .m files does the LGI computation use?
Thanks

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[Freesurfer] LGI radius

2013-10-11 Thread Jon Wieser
Hi freesurfer experts
is it possbile to change the radius for the LGI computation. ( it's normally 
set at 25 mm)   we waned to try computing the LGI with a smaller radius.
I looked the in the "compute_lgi.m" file, and it does not use radius, (even 
though radius is an input parameter for it)
Thanks
Jon

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Re: [Freesurfer] LGI radius

2013-10-15 Thread Jon Wieser
HI Marie,
What is the minimum radius that you would suggest to use, and still produce 
reliable results
JOn

- Original Message -
From: "Marie Schaer" 
To: "Jon Wieser" 
Cc: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 9:04:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] LGI  radius


Hi Jon,

The fastest way is probably to change the radius value on row 40 in 
mris_compute_lgi. We originally intended to make an option for setting the 
radius, but I realize that we forgot it in the end. I'll see if we can change 
it for the next version, but in the mean time change the value directly in 
mris_compute_lgi and you'll be fine.

Best,

Marie 

On Oct 11, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Jon Wieser 
wrote:

> Hi freesurfer experts
> is it possbile to change the radius for the LGI computation. ( it's normally 
> set at 25 mm)   we waned to try computing the LGI with a smaller radius.
> I looked the in the "compute_lgi.m" file, and it does not use radius, (even 
> though radius is an input parameter for it)
> Thanks
> Jon
> 
> -- 
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> Research Specialist
> UW-Milwaukee
> Psychology Department, Pearse Hall Rm 366
> 2441 East Hartford Ave
> Milwaukee, WI 53211
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Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface interhemispheric overlap

2013-10-21 Thread Jon Wieser
HI bruce
thanks for the info
the aseg was ok, except that the Right  and Left cerebral cortex lables were in 
adjacent voxel in the region. I modified aseg.mgz so that they didn't touch.  
by eraseing some of the segmentation in the space between the hemispheres.

At which stage do I restart the recon-all?  I think I should restart at 
-normalization2, since that that,s the next step after the aseg.mgz is created
JOn


- Original Message -
From: "Bruce Fischl" 
To: "Jon Wieser" 
Cc: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 12:46:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Pial surface interhemispheric overlap

Hi Jon

that's pretty bad. Is the aseg also incorrect there? If so, try 
correcting it and rerunning

cheers
Bruce
On Mon, 21 Oct 2013, Jon Wieser wrote:

>
>
>
> Hi Freesurfer experts
> I recently created surfaces with recon-all, and found that in the straight 
> gyrus in the medial inferior frontal lobe, the pial surfaces are overlaping 
> between the hemispheres. I have attached a picture to show the problem.
> You can see from the picture that the pial surface from the Right hemisphere 
> (in Blue) and the pial surface from the left hemisphere ( in Red) are 
> overlapping (crossing over) to the other hemisphere.how can I fix this?
> Thanks
> Jon
>
>


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Re: [Freesurfer] Tracula Error

2013-10-22 Thread Jon Wieser

Hi anastasia,
I work with Emily.   the wild card  she used  i*.MRDC.1   specifies only the 
first dicom image.  the dicoms are in the format:
 
i727056.MRDC.1  i727065.MRDC.10 i727074.MRDC.19 i727083.MRDC.28 i727092.MRDC.37 
i727101.MRDC.46 i727110.MRDC.55 i727119.MRDC.64 i727128.MRDC.73 i727137.MRDC.82 
i727146.MRDC.91
i727057.MRDC.2  i727066.MRDC.11 i727075.MRDC.20 i727084.MRDC.29 i727093.MRDC.38 
i727102.MRDC.47 i727111.MRDC.56 i727120.MRDC.65 i727129.MRDC.74 i727138.MRDC.83 
i727147.MRDC.92
i727058.MRDC.3  i727067.MRDC.12 i727076.MRDC.21 i727085.MRDC.30 i727094.MRDC.39 
i727103.MRDC.48 i727112.MRDC.57 i727121.MRDC.66 i727130.MRDC.75 i727139.MRDC.84 
i727148.MRDC.93
i727059.MRDC.4  i727068.MRDC.13 i727077.MRDC.22 i727086.MRDC.31 i727095.MRDC.40 
i727104.MRDC.49 i727113.MRDC.58 i727122.MRDC.67 i727131.MRDC.76 i727140.MRDC.85 
i727149.MRDC.94
i727060.MRDC.5  i727069.MRDC.14 i727078.MRDC.23 i727087.MRDC.32 i727096.MRDC.41 
i727105.MRDC.50 i727114.MRDC.59 i727123.MRDC.68 i727132.MRDC.77 i727141.MRDC.86 
i727150.MRDC.95
i727061.MRDC.6  i727070.MRDC.15 i727079.MRDC.24 i727088.MRDC.33 i727097.MRDC.42 
i727106.MRDC.51 i727115.MRDC.60 i727124.MRDC.69 i727133.MRDC.78 i727142.MRDC.87 
i727151.MRDC.96
i727062.MRDC.7  i727071.MRDC.16 i727080.MRDC.25 i727089.MRDC.34 i727098.MRDC.43 
i727107.MRDC.52 i727116.MRDC.61 i727125.MRDC.70 i727134.MRDC.79 i727143.MRDC.88 
i727152.MRDC.97
i727063.MRDC.8  i727072.MRDC.17 i727081.MRDC.26 i727090.MRDC.35 i727099.MRDC.44 
i727108.MRDC.53 i727117.MRDC.62 i727126.MRDC.71 i727135.MRDC.80 i727144.MRDC.89 
i727153.MRDC.98
i727064.MRDC.9  i727073.MRDC.18 i727082.MRDC.27 i727091.MRDC.36 i727100.MRDC.45 
i727109.MRDC.54 i727118.MRDC.63 i727127.MRDC.72 i727136.MRDC.81 i727145.MRDC.90 
i727154.MRDC.99 etc



so i*.MRDC.1   would specify only the file  i727056.MRDC.1,  the first dicom 
image

Jon  

- Original Message -
From: "Anastasia Yendiki" 
To: ebell...@uwm.edu
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:09:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Tracula Error


Hi Emily - You're using "*" to specify all the dicom files in the series. 
You should specify just one file.

BTW, do you have the latest version of freesurfer and the tutorials? This 
dmrirc looks like it might have been adapted from an older version of the 
tutorials. If so, I highly recommend downloading the latest version of 
everything.

Hope this helps,
a.y

On Mon, 21 Oct 2013, ebell...@uwm.edu wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am running into the following error when I try to run trac-all:
>
> set: No match.
> ERROR: must specify as many DWI dicoms as subjects
>
> I have taken my script and examined it line by line and have made several 
> attempts at debugging it.
>
> I was wondering if you had any suggestions?  Attached is my 
> dmrirc_single_subject configuration.
>
> I am brand new to freesurfer and tracula and would appreciate any guidance 
> you can give me!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Emily
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Anastasia Yendiki" 
> To: ebell...@uwm.edu
> Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 3:53:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Tracula
>
>
> Hi Emily - The first version of tracula was in freesurfer 5.1. However, I
> would *highly* recommend using the newer version of tracula, now in 5.3,
> as it has improvements in both performance and speed.
>
> The processing in trac-all is supposed to happen in parallel for each of
> the subjects included in the configuration file, if you run trac-all on a
> cluster. However, not all clusters have the same set-up, and you may have
> to make modifications for it to work on your cluster, with the help of
> your cluster admins. There should be previous questions on this in this
> list's email archives. Let me know if you have any other questions.
>
> a.y
>
> On Thu, 10 Oct 2013, ebell...@uwm.edu wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: ebell...@uwm.edu
>> To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 3:14:06 PM
>> Subject: Tracula
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I had a question regarding batch processing in trac all.
>>
>> When you batch process and put in multiple subjects in your subject list in 
>> your configuration file, are the subjects run parallel or serial?
>>
>> Also, I am having a hard time finding the linux version of tracula that is 
>> compatible with Freesurfer version 5.0 (assuming it exists)?
>>
>> Thank you so much and I appreciate your guidance as I am brand new to 
>> freesurfer and tracula.
>>
>> Emily
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Re: [Freesurfer] Tracula Error

2013-10-22 Thread Jon Wieser
according to the tracula wiki:

http://freesurfer.net/fswiki/FsTutorial/Tracula

the program should  look in the directory specified by "dcmroot" to look for 
the dicom list




excerpt from the wiki page:


Step 5: Specify the location of diffusion DICOM files


set dcmroot = $TUTORIAL_DATA/diffusion_tutorial
Use this variable to specify the directory under which the diffusion DICOM 
files for all subjects can be found.

Step 6: Specify the list of input DWIs


set dcmlist = ( elmo.2005/orig/656000-11-1.dcm \
elmo.2008/orig/97000-17-01.dcm \

elmo.2012/orig/MR.1.3.12.2.1107.5.2.32.35006.2012121819455034689828982 )




Jon





- Original Message -
From: "Anastasia Yendiki" 
To: "Jon Wieser" 
Cc: "freesurfer" , "ebelleau" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 12:24:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Tracula Error


The problem is that the command "set dcmlist = (i*.MRDC.1)" is executed as 
soon as it is read. So this will end up with an empty dcmlist, because 
there are no files named i*.MRDC.1 in the current directory.


On Tue, 22 Oct 2013, Jon Wieser wrote:

>
> Hi anastasia,
> I work with Emily.   the wild card  she used  i*.MRDC.1   specifies only the 
> first dicom image.  the dicoms are in the format:
>
> i727056.MRDC.1  i727065.MRDC.10 i727074.MRDC.19 i727083.MRDC.28 
> i727092.MRDC.37 i727101.MRDC.46 i727110.MRDC.55 i727119.MRDC.64 
> i727128.MRDC.73 i727137.MRDC.82 i727146.MRDC.91
> i727057.MRDC.2  i727066.MRDC.11 i727075.MRDC.20 i727084.MRDC.29 
> i727093.MRDC.38 i727102.MRDC.47 i727111.MRDC.56 i727120.MRDC.65 
> i727129.MRDC.74 i727138.MRDC.83 i727147.MRDC.92
> i727058.MRDC.3  i727067.MRDC.12 i727076.MRDC.21 i727085.MRDC.30 
> i727094.MRDC.39 i727103.MRDC.48 i727112.MRDC.57 i727121.MRDC.66 
> i727130.MRDC.75 i727139.MRDC.84 i727148.MRDC.93
> i727059.MRDC.4  i727068.MRDC.13 i727077.MRDC.22 i727086.MRDC.31 
> i727095.MRDC.40 i727104.MRDC.49 i727113.MRDC.58 i727122.MRDC.67 
> i727131.MRDC.76 i727140.MRDC.85 i727149.MRDC.94
> i727060.MRDC.5  i727069.MRDC.14 i727078.MRDC.23 i727087.MRDC.32 
> i727096.MRDC.41 i727105.MRDC.50 i727114.MRDC.59 i727123.MRDC.68 
> i727132.MRDC.77 i727141.MRDC.86 i727150.MRDC.95
> i727061.MRDC.6  i727070.MRDC.15 i727079.MRDC.24 i727088.MRDC.33 
> i727097.MRDC.42 i727106.MRDC.51 i727115.MRDC.60 i727124.MRDC.69 
> i727133.MRDC.78 i727142.MRDC.87 i727151.MRDC.96
> i727062.MRDC.7  i727071.MRDC.16 i727080.MRDC.25 i727089.MRDC.34 
> i727098.MRDC.43 i727107.MRDC.52 i727116.MRDC.61 i727125.MRDC.70 
> i727134.MRDC.79 i727143.MRDC.88 i727152.MRDC.97
> i727063.MRDC.8  i727072.MRDC.17 i727081.MRDC.26 i727090.MRDC.35 
> i727099.MRDC.44 i727108.MRDC.53 i727117.MRDC.62 i727126.MRDC.71 
> i727135.MRDC.80 i727144.MRDC.89 i727153.MRDC.98
> i727064.MRDC.9  i727073.MRDC.18 i727082.MRDC.27 i727091.MRDC.36 
> i727100.MRDC.45 i727109.MRDC.54 i727118.MRDC.63 i727127.MRDC.72 
> i727136.MRDC.81 i727145.MRDC.90 i727154.MRDC.99 etc
>
>
>
> so i*.MRDC.1   would specify only the file  i727056.MRDC.1,  the first dicom 
> image
>
> Jon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Anastasia Yendiki" 
> To: ebell...@uwm.edu
> Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:09:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Tracula Error
>
>
> Hi Emily - You're using "*" to specify all the dicom files in the series.
> You should specify just one file.
>
> BTW, do you have the latest version of freesurfer and the tutorials? This
> dmrirc looks like it might have been adapted from an older version of the
> tutorials. If so, I highly recommend downloading the latest version of
> everything.
>
> Hope this helps,
> a.y
>
> On Mon, 21 Oct 2013, ebell...@uwm.edu wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am running into the following error when I try to run trac-all:
>>
>> set: No match.
>> ERROR: must specify as many DWI dicoms as subjects
>>
>> I have taken my script and examined it line by line and have made several 
>> attempts at debugging it.
>>
>> I was wondering if you had any suggestions?  Attached is my 
>> dmrirc_single_subject configuration.
>>
>> I am brand new to freesurfer and tracula and would appreciate any guidance 
>> you can give me!
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Emily
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Anastasia Yendiki" 
>> To: ebell...@uwm.edu
>> Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 3:53:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Tracula
>>
>>
>> Hi Emily - The first version of tracula was in freesurfer 5.1. However, I
>> would *highly* recommend using the newer version of tracula, no

Re: [Freesurfer] DTI - tracula - satisfactory cntrl pnts

2013-12-03 Thread Jon Wieser
we install freesurfer 5.3
 when we run trac-all  -prep -c dmrirc

the process ends with the error:


 
tkreg2FSL: mov det = -64, ref det = 1
INFO: FSL2FreeSurfer: Ref volume is NIFTI with positive det,
  applying LR flip to registration matrix.
Tue Dec  3 13:32:26 CST 2013
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/data/MRI/N1006/data
flirt.fsl -ref 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/data/MRI/N1006/data//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/tmp.bbregister.29768/fslregister/refvol.fslregister.nii
 -in 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/data/MRI/N1006/data//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/tmp.bbregister.29768/fslregister/movvol.fslregister.nii
 -bins 256 -cost corratio -dof 6 -searchrx -90 90 -searchry -90 90 -searchrz 
-90 90 -verbose 0 -omat 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/data/MRI/N1006/data//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/tmp.bbregister.29768/fslregister/fslmat0.trans.mat
 -schedule /usr/local/fsl/etc/flirtsch/xyztrans.sch -init 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/data/MRI/N1006/data//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/tmp.bbregister.29768/reg.init.dat.fsl.mat0
flirt.fsl: Command not found.
ERROR: flirt
Darwin cerebrum.uwm.edu 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun  7 
16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386

trac-preproc exited with ERRORS at Tue Dec  3 13:32:26 CST 2013




flirt.fsl is not in the $FREESURFER_HOME/bin  directory

Jon


- Original Message -
From: "Anastasia Yendiki" 
To: "Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger" 
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 1:19:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] DTI - tracula - satisfactory cntrl pnts


Hi Skyler - I would *highly* recommend using the version of tracula in 
5.3, as there have been improvements in both performance and speed.

You can check the DWI to anatomical registration by overlaying the 
aparc+aseg from the dlabel/diff directory (which is in diffusion space) on 
the FA map. Does that look ok?

a.y

On Mon, 2 Dec 2013, Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger wrote:

> Hi Anastasia,
>
> We're using 5.1. It's likely poor registration. The aparc+aseg. looked fine. 
> Is there anything to do about poor registration?
>
> Thank you for the fast reply. Truly appreciated.
> Skyler
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Anastasia Yendiki" 
> To: "Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger" 
> Cc: Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> Sent: Monday, December 2, 2013 4:27:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] DTI - tracula - satisfactory cntrl pnts
>
>
> Hi Skyler - Are you using freesurfer 5.1 or 5.3?
>
> Most likely this issue is due to poor registration, either from the
> individual DWI to the individual T1, or from the individual T1 to the
> template space. Or it could be that there is a problem with the
> aparc+aseg.
>
> a.y
>
> On Mon, 2 Dec 2013, Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've been running DTI using tracula (fs version 5) for over 1 week on 2 
>> subjects. It appears that it is having difficulty finding satisfactory 
>> control point fit and has attempted over 1600 tries. Any help is greatly 
>> appreciated.
>> See error below:
>>
>> INFO: Distances between consecutive points are 25 24 25 26
>> WARN: Could not find satisfactory control point fit - try 1665
>> Finding center streamline
>> INFO: Step is 4 voxels
>> WARN: Turning off FA check for center streamline
>> INFO: Step is 4 voxels
>> WARN: Turning off deviation check for center streamline
>> INFO: Step is 4 voxels
>> INFO: Length of center streamline is 96 voxels
>> Selecting 5 points on center streamline
>> INFO: Step is 4 voxels
>> WARN: Defaulting to equidistant control points
>> INFO: Selected control points are
>>  108 193 84
>>  112 173 72
>>  98 153 75
>>  74 157 75
>>  74 184 86
>> INFO: Distances between consecutive points are 24 25 24 29
>> WARN: Could not find satisfactory control point fit - try 1666
>> Finding center streamline
>> INFO: Step is 4 voxels
>> WARN: Turning off FA check for center streamline
>> INFO: Step is 4 voxels
>> WARN: Turning off deviation check for center streamline
>> INFO: Step is 4 voxels
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Skyler
>>
>>
>
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Re: [Freesurfer] DTI - tracula - satisfactory cntrl pnts

2013-12-04 Thread Jon Wieser
hi zeke, 

thanks for the help
 in the log file, if you look at the last new invocation of trac-all, it 
indicates that it a runing the freesurefer 5.3 version

Excerpt from Log file:

New invocation of trac-all


Wed Dec  4 12:02:28 CST 2013
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/data/MRI/N1064/data
/Applications/Freesurfer5.3/bin/trac-all
-prep -c dmrirc_single_subject
Subject freesurfer
SUBJECTS_DIR /BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/data/MRI/N1064/data
FREESURFER_HOME /Applications/Freesurfer5.3
Actual FREESURFER_HOME /Applications/Freesurfer5.3





- Original Message -
From: "Z K" 
To: "Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger" 
Cc: "Anastasia Yendiki" , 
freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu, "Jon Wieser" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 2:29:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] DTI - tracula - satisfactory cntrl pnts

According to the log file you sent, you are running freesurfer 5.1, 
leopard version.

And now that I am looking at your previous email, it seems you were 
running the freesurfer 5.1 leopard version in that case too.

It also looks like you are indeed running a 32bit snow leopard machine 
so please move (or completely erase) any previously installed version of 
freesurfer you have on your machine and download and install this one.




-Zeke


On 12/04/2013 03:21 PM, Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger wrote:
> Hi Zeke,
>
> Thanks for the help. We installed the 64bit version and got the same error.
>
> INFO: Distances between consecutive points in test subject's space are 5 5 6 5
> Writing output files to 
> /BrainLabDocs/studies/nicotine_mj_ecstasy_study/data/MRI/N1064/data/freesurfer/dlabel/mni/lh.ccg_PP_avg23_mni_flt_*
> dmri_train(65940) malloc: *** mmap(size=159744) failed (error code=12)
> *** error: can't allocate region
> *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
> MRIalloc(218, 182, 182): could not allocate 158704 bytes for 98th slice
>
> Cannot allocate memory
>
> I've attached the error log for trac-all in case you need.
>
> Thanks again!
> Skyler and Jon
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Z K" 
> To: "Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger" 
> Cc: "Anastasia Yendiki" , 
> freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 9:46:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] DTI - tracula - satisfactory cntrl pnts
>
> It looks like your running 32bit freesurfer on a 64bit machine with snow
> leopard installed on it. In this case You will have to install the 64bit
> version of freesurfer instead of the 32bit version you installed previously.
>
> You can get the version you need from the following link:
>
> ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/dist/freesurfer/5.3.0/freesurfer-Darwin-lion-stable-pub-v5.3.0.dmg
>
> Sorry for the confusion.
>
> -Zeke
>
> On 12/04/2013 10:34 AM, Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger wrote:
>> Hi Anastasia,
>>
>> Thanks for your help. We updated to version 5.3 and received this error:
>> INFO: Distances between consecutive points in test subject's space are 5 5 6 
>> 5
>> Writing output files to 
>> /BrainLabDocs/studies/nicotine_mj_ecstasy_study/data/MRI/N1064/data/freesurfer/dlabel/mni/lh.ccg_PP_avg23_mni_flt_*
>> dmri_train(44276) malloc: *** mmap(size=159744) failed (error code=12)
>> *** error: can't allocate region
>> *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
>> MRIalloc(218, 182, 182): could not allocate 158704 bytes for 98th slice
>>
>> Cannot allocate memory
>>
>> We use Mac OS X 10.6.8 Snowleopard.
>>
>> Best,
>> Skyler
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Anastasia Yendiki" 
>> To: "Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger" 
>> Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 1:19:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] DTI - tracula - satisfactory cntrl pnts
>>
>>
>> Hi Skyler - I would *highly* recommend using the version of tracula in
>> 5.3, as there have been improvements in both performance and speed.
>>
>> You can check the DWI to anatomical registration by overlaying the
>> aparc+aseg from the dlabel/diff directory (which is in diffusion space) on
>> the FA map. Does that look ok?
>>
>> a.y
>>
>> On Mon, 2 Dec 2013, Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Anastasia,
>>>
>>> We're using 5.1. It's likely poor registration. The aparc+aseg. looked 
>>> fine. Is there anything to do about poor registration?
>>>
>>> Thank you for the fast reply. Truly appreciated.
>>> Skyler
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Anastasia Yen

Re: [Freesurfer] DTI - tracula - satisfactory cntrl pnts

2013-12-05 Thread Jon Wieser
Hi Zeke,
thanks for the info.  we had installed the 64 bit lion version of freesurfer.  
perhaps the trac-all was engaged from the wrong (older) directory.  I am nuking 
the old versions. and will try it again

Jon
- Original Message -
From: "Z K" 
To: "Jon Wieser" 
Cc: "Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger" , "freesurfer" 

Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 5:15:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] DTI - tracula - satisfactory cntrl pnts

Yes, you are correct. I sometimes forget these log files keep appending.

But when I look at the last call of trac-all it says 
"freesurfer-Darwin-snowleopard-i686-stable-pub-v5.3.0" which is the 
32bit OSX build of FreeSurfer. The 64bit version is called 
""freesurfer-Darwin-lion-stable-pub-v5.3.0" and I dont see that 
referenced anywhere in the log file. So it looks like that solution was 
never actually attempted.

Im not 100% convinced this will solve your problem, but the error you 
are getting is almost always solved by using the 64bit version, so 
please download and install the 64bit version from the link I provided 
earlier:

ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/dist/freesurfer/5.3.0/freesurfer-Darwin-lion-stable-pub-v5.3.0.dmg

Hopefully that takes care of it. Make sure that 
"freesurfer-Darwin-lion-stable-pub-v5.3.0" is referenced in the log 
file. If you still get the error please contact us again and we'll go 
from there.

-Zeke



On 12/04/2013 05:55 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
> hi zeke,
>
> thanks for the help
>   in the log file, if you look at the last new invocation of trac-all, it 
> indicates that it a runing the freesurefer 5.3 version
>
> Excerpt from Log file:
>
> New invocation of trac-all
>
>
> Wed Dec  4 12:02:28 CST 2013
> /BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/data/MRI/N1064/data
> /Applications/Freesurfer5.3/bin/trac-all
> -prep -c dmrirc_single_subject
> Subject freesurfer
> SUBJECTS_DIR 
> /BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/data/MRI/N1064/data
> FREESURFER_HOME /Applications/Freesurfer5.3
> Actual FREESURFER_HOME /Applications/Freesurfer5.3
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Z K" 
> To: "Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger" 
> Cc: "Anastasia Yendiki" , 
> freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu, "Jon Wieser" 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 2:29:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] DTI - tracula - satisfactory cntrl pnts
>
> According to the log file you sent, you are running freesurfer 5.1,
> leopard version.
>
> And now that I am looking at your previous email, it seems you were
> running the freesurfer 5.1 leopard version in that case too.
>
> It also looks like you are indeed running a 32bit snow leopard machine
> so please move (or completely erase) any previously installed version of
> freesurfer you have on your machine and download and install this one.
>
>
>
>
> -Zeke
>
>
> On 12/04/2013 03:21 PM, Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger wrote:
>> Hi Zeke,
>>
>> Thanks for the help. We installed the 64bit version and got the same error.
>>
>> INFO: Distances between consecutive points in test subject's space are 5 5 6 
>> 5
>> Writing output files to 
>> /BrainLabDocs/studies/nicotine_mj_ecstasy_study/data/MRI/N1064/data/freesurfer/dlabel/mni/lh.ccg_PP_avg23_mni_flt_*
>> dmri_train(65940) malloc: *** mmap(size=159744) failed (error code=12)
>> *** error: can't allocate region
>> *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
>> MRIalloc(218, 182, 182): could not allocate 158704 bytes for 98th slice
>>
>> Cannot allocate memory
>>
>> I've attached the error log for trac-all in case you need.
>>
>> Thanks again!
>> Skyler and Jon
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Z K" 
>> To: "Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger" 
>> Cc: "Anastasia Yendiki" , 
>> freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 9:46:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] DTI - tracula - satisfactory cntrl pnts
>>
>> It looks like your running 32bit freesurfer on a 64bit machine with snow
>> leopard installed on it. In this case You will have to install the 64bit
>> version of freesurfer instead of the 32bit version you installed previously.
>>
>> You can get the version you need from the following link:
>>
>> ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/dist/freesurfer/5.3.0/freesurfer-Darwin-lion-stable-pub-v5.3.0.dmg
>>
>> Sorry for the confusion.
>>
>> -Zeke
>>
>> On 12/04/2013 10:34 AM, Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger wrote:
>>> Hi Anastasia,
>>>
>>> Thanks for y

[Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates

2013-12-05 Thread Jon Wieser
HI freesurfer experts

I want to do an analysis in qdec with 2 groups(ADHD, and Marijuana usage)  and 
2 covariates(age and gender) to study the effect of these factors on cortical 
thickness. I can only select a covariate in the qdec gui.  is there a way to 
select both covariates in the qdec GUI?
Thanks
Jon

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[Freesurfer] trac-all version 5.3 crash

2013-12-06 Thread Jon Wieser
Hi freesurfer experts,

I've recnetly upgraded to freesurfer 5.3  (lion) 64bit version  on our Mac Pro
when I run trac-all -prep,  I get the following error:

writing to /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0030/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig.nii.gz...
mri_probedicom --i /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0030//s1869/i1560627.MRDC.1 > 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0030/freesurfer/dmri/dcminfo.dat
Trace/BPT trap
Darwin psy-blackbird.ad.uwm.edu 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun  7 
16:32:41 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64

trac-preproc exited with ERRORS at Fri Dec  6 11:20:50 CST 2013


I've included the trac-all.log and trac-all.error file 


the trac-all log indicates in incompatible library version:

 Reason: Incompatible library version: mri_probedicom requires version 10.0.0 
or later, but libX11.6.dylib provides version 9.0.0
Darwin psy-blackbird.ad.uwm.edu 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun  7 
16:32:41 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64



I have reinstalled Xquartz and rebooted, but I still get the same error.
what else can I do?


system info:
mac pro  6-core intel Xeon 
MAc OS 10.6.8  snowleopard 


Jon


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Milwaukee, WI 53211
Phone: 414-229-7145
Fax: 414-229-5219Fri Dec  6 11:19:30 CST 2013
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0030
/Applications/freesurfer/bin/trac-all
-c dmrirc_single_subject -prep
Subject freesurfer
SUBJECTS_DIR /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0030
FREESURFER_HOME /Applications/freesurfer
Actual FREESURFER_HOME /Applications/freesurfer
build-stamp.txt: freesurfer-Darwin-lion-stable-pub-v5.3.0
wieser
psy-blackbird.ad.uwm.edu
Darwin psy-blackbird.ad.uwm.edu 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun  7 16:32:41 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
cputime  unlimited
filesize unlimited
datasize unlimited
stacksize8192 kbytes
coredumpsize 0 kbytes
memoryuseunlimited
descriptors  2560 
memorylocked unlimited
maxproc  266 

PhysMem: 1343M wired, 1106M active, 2481M inactive, 4931M used, 19G free.


Program versions:
$Id: trac-all,v 1.22.2.12 2013/02/23 02:01:02 ayendiki Exp $
mri_convert --all-info 
ProgramName: mri_convert  ProgramArguments: --all-info  ProgramVersion: $Name: stable5 $  TimeStamp: 2013/12/06-17:19:31-GMT  BuildTimeStamp: May 14 2013 09:12:01  CVS: $Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.179.2.7 2012/09/05 21:55:16 mreuter Exp $  User: wieser  Machine: psy-blackbird.ad.uwm.edu  Platform: Darwin  PlatformVersion: 10.8.0  CompilerName: GCC  CompilerVersion: 40200 
FLIRT version 5.5
$Id: bbregister,v 1.49.2.3 2013/03/25 18:04:53 greve Exp $
$Id: mri_cvs_register,v 1.15.2.12 2013/02/09 00:37:37 nicks Exp $
ProgramName: dmri_train  ProgramArguments: --all-info  ProgramVersion: $Name: stable5 $  TimeStamp: 2013/12/06-17:19:31-GMT  BuildTimeStamp: May 14 2013 09:12:01  CVS:   User: wieser  Machine: psy-blackbird.ad.uwm.edu  Platform: Darwin  PlatformVersion: 10.8.0  CompilerName: GCC  CompilerVersion: 40200 
ProgramName: dmri_paths  ProgramArguments: --all-info  ProgramVersion: $Name: stable5 $  TimeStamp: 2013/12/06-17:19:31-GMT  BuildTimeStamp: May 14 2013 09:12:01  CVS:   User: wieser  Machine: psy-blackbird.ad.uwm.edu  Platform: Darwin  PlatformVersion: 10.8.0  CompilerName: GCC  CompilerVersion: 40200 
ProgramName: dmri_pathstats  ProgramArguments: --all-info  ProgramVersion: $Name: stable5 $  TimeStamp: 2013/12/06-17:19:32-GMT  BuildTimeStamp: May 14 2013 09:12:01  CVS:   User: wieser  Machine: psy-blackbird.ad.uwm.edu  Platform: Darwin  PlatformVersion: 10.8.0  CompilerName: GCC  CompilerVersion: 40200 
ProgramName: dmri_mergepaths  ProgramArguments: --all-info  ProgramVersion: $Name: stable5 $  TimeStamp: 2013/12/06-17:19:32-GMT  BuildTimeStamp: May 14 2013 09:12:01  CVS:   User: wieser  Machine: psy-blackbird.ad.uwm.edu  Platform: Darwin  PlatformVersion: 10.8.0  CompilerName: GCC  CompilerVersion: 40200 


New invocation of trac-preproc


wieser
psy-blackbird.ad.uwm.edu
Darwin psy-blackbird.ad.uwm.edu 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun  7 16:32:41 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
cputime  unlimited
filesize unlimited
datasize unlimited
stacksize8192 kbytes
coredumpsize 0 kbytes
memoryuseunlimited
descriptors  2560 
memorylocked unlimited
maxproc  266 

PhysMem: 1344M wired, 1107M active, 2481M inactive, 4932M used, 19G free.

#-
/Applications/freesurfer/bin/trac-preproc 
#-
#@# Image corrections Fri Dec  6 11:19:33 CST 2013
mri_convert /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0030//s1869/i1560627.MRDC.1 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0030/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig.nii.gz
mri_convert /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0030//s1869/i1560627.MRDC.1 /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0030/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_orig.nii.gz 
$Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.179.2.7 2012/09/05 21:55:16 mreuter Exp $
reading from /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0030//s1869/i1560627.MRDC.1...
Starting DICOMRe

Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates

2013-12-09 Thread Jon Wieser
thanks doug,

We've  run a 2x2 analysis for thickness in Qdec and want the get the average 
thickness value for each cluster, for each subject.
How can i get a table of thickness data , for feach subject in the analysis
Jon

- Original Message -
From: "Douglas N Greve" 
To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 1:48:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates


Hi Jon, QDEC does not currently allow more than one covariates of 
interest. You will have to use the command-line stream (ie, 
mris_preproc, mri_surf2surf, mri_glmfit, mri_glmfit-sim)

doug


On 12/05/2013 02:57 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
> HI freesurfer experts
>
> I want to do an analysis in qdec with 2 groups(ADHD, and Marijuana usage)  
> and 2 covariates(age and gender) to study the effect of these factors on 
> cortical thickness. I can only select a covariate in the qdec gui.  is there 
> a way to select both covariates in the qdec GUI?
> Thanks
> Jon
>

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Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates

2013-12-09 Thread Jon Wieser

I found data for the average thickness all subjects for each cluster, but I 
haven't found the individual subject's thickness for each cluster.  can you 
direct me to that data?
Jon
- Original Message -
From: "Douglas N Greve" 
To: "Jon Wieser" 
Cc: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 2:15:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates

It is in one of the output files. Look for the .dat file in
mri_glmfit-sim --help

On 12/09/2013 03:01 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
> thanks doug,
>
> We've  run a 2x2 analysis for thickness in Qdec and want the get the average 
> thickness value for each cluster, for each subject.
> How can i get a table of thickness data , for feach subject in the analysis
> Jon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
> To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 1:48:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>
>
> Hi Jon, QDEC does not currently allow more than one covariates of
> interest. You will have to use the command-line stream (ie,
> mris_preproc, mri_surf2surf, mri_glmfit, mri_glmfit-sim)
>
> doug
>
>
> On 12/05/2013 02:57 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>> HI freesurfer experts
>>
>> I want to do an analysis in qdec with 2 groups(ADHD, and Marijuana usage)  
>> and 2 covariates(age and gender) to study the effect of these factors on 
>> cortical thickness. I can only select a covariate in the qdec gui.  is there 
>> a way to select both covariates in the qdec GUI?
>> Thanks
>> Jon
>>

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MGH-NMR Center
gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Phone Number: 617-724-2358
Fax: 617-726-7422

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Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates

2013-12-10 Thread Jon Wieser
i have a mri_glmfit.log,(attached)   but no cache.mri_glmfit-sim.log  in the 
qdec output directory
Jon


- Original Message -
From: "Douglas N Greve" 
To: "Jon Wieser" , Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:42:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates


Is there a cache.mri_glmfit-sim.log in the output folder? Can you send 
it to me? Also, please remember to post to the list. thanks!
doug


On 12/10/2013 02:30 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
> FS version 5.3
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
> To: "Jon Wieser" , Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:05:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>
>
> hmmm, it should be there. What version of FS are you using?
>
>
>
> On 12/10/2013 12:57 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>> i was getting the values for the command terminal, when I press the "find 
>> clusters and GOTo Max" button on the qdec GUI.
>> there is no file named cache.th20.abs.y.dat or something similar.  i did a 
>> "find" command to list all the  *abs*.dat files in the directory
>>
>> qdec/MTA_ADHD_MJ/lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Intercept-thickness/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat
>> qdec/MTA_ADHD_MJ/lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Intercept-thickness/mc-z.abs.th20.pdf.dat
>> qdec/Untitled/lh-Avg-thickness-Age-Cor/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat
>> qdec/Untitled/lh-Avg-thickness-Gender-Cor/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat
>> qdec/Untitled/lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Intercept-thickness/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat
>> qdec/Untitled/lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Intercept-thickness/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat
>> qdec/Untitled/lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Intercept-thickness/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> these files  contain:
>>
>> # CSD PDF/CDF
>> # simtype null-z
>> # anattype surface  fsaverage lh
>> # FixGroupSubjectArea 1
>> # merged  0
>> # contrastNA
>> # seed1271277527
>> # thresh  1.30
>> # threshsign  0.00
>> # searchspace 74612.965197
>> # nullfwhm15.00
>> # varfwhm -1.00
>> # nrepetitions 1
>> # NOTE: nreps and nrepetitions are both valid for volume data.
>> # NOTE: nreps is invalid (-1) for surface data to assure.
>> # NOTE:   backwards INcompatibility.
>> # $Id: volcluster.c,v 1.50.2.1 2011/03/28 15:32:36 greve Exp $
>> # nreps   -1
>> # FixSurfClusterArea 1
>> # $Id: surfcluster.c,v 1.26.2.2 2011/11/10 16:01:11 greve Exp $
>> # nbins 100
>> # BinNo  MaxClustBin MaxClustPDF MaxClustCDF GRFCDFMaxSigBin MaxSigPDF 
>> MaxSigCDF
>>  0  204.826004   0.000500 0.999500  0.998289 2.456050  
>> 0.000500  0.999500
>>  1  220.348267   0.001800 0.997700  0.996805 2.811329  
>> 0.008100  0.991400
>>  2  235.870529   0.004300 0.993400  0.994388 3.166609  
>> 0.022200  0.969200
>>  3  251.392792   0.007100 0.986300  0.990673 3.521888  
>> 0.030300  0.938900
>>  4  266.915039   0.015600 0.970700  0.985251 3.877167  
>> 0.028900  0.91
>>  5  282.437317   0.017500 0.953200  0.977702 4.232447  
>> 0.022600  0.887400
>>  6  297.959595   0.021400 0.931800  0.967628 4.587726  
>> 0.015200  0.872200
>>  7  313.481842   0.033600 0.898200  0.954689 4.943005  
>> 0.012300  0.859900
>>  8  329.004089   0.036100 0.862100  0.938634 5.298285  
>> 0.009800  0.850100
>>  9  344.526367   0.038000 0.824100  0.919325 5.653563  
>> 0.007300  0.842800
>>10  360.048645   0.042500 0.781600  0.896747 6.008843  
>> 0.009200  0.833600
>> 11  375.570892   0.05 0.731600  0.871009 6.364122  
>> 0.006900  0.826700
>> 12  391.093140   0.043400 0.688200  0.842332 6.719401  
>> 0.007100  0.819600
>> 13  406.615417   0.047300 0.640900  0.811034 7.074681  
>> 0.005500  0.814100
>> 14  422.137695   0.050700 0.590200  0.777508 7.429960  
>> 0.005500  0.808600
>> 15  437.659943   0.047400 0.542800  0.742195 7.785239  
>> 0.005200  0.803400
>> 16  453.182190   0.044100 0.498700  0.705560 8.140518  
>> 0.004900  0.798500
>> 17  468.704468   0.042700 0.456000  0.668070 8.495798  
>> 0.005100  0.793400
>> 18  484.226746   0.040600 0.415400  0.630176 8.851077  
>> 0.006100  0.787300
>> 19  499.748962   0.034900 0.380500  0.592300 9.206356  
&

Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates

2013-12-10 Thread Jon Wieser
thanks,
I ran 
 mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ --cache 1.3 abs

MTA_ADHD_MJ  is my project file and has the results from qdec in it


it has produced:

lh-Avg-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
lh-Avg-thickness-Age-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
lh-Avg-thickness-Gender-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
lh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
lh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
lh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
rh-Avg-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
rh-Avg-thickness-Age-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
rh-Avg-thickness-Gender-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
rh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
rh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
rh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
rh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
rh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
rh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
rh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
rh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
rh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat



these files have 120 rows.  each row has a thickness value s
example
2.71869 
2.52448 
2.50450 
2.53677 
2.58363 
2.50404 
2.42116 
2.61757 
2.51820 
2.59009 
2.42524 
2.72043 
2.59479 
2.38014 
2.41052 
2.58483 
2.49214 
2.45870 
2.51685 
2.62981 
2.59232 

it appears that there is the thickness for each subject in the files

I would like to have the thickness value, for each cluster, for every subject

we have 120 subjects, with  about 40 clusters
Jon

- Original Message -
From: "Douglas N Greve" 
To: "Jon Wieser" 
Cc: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 2:30:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates


OK, sorry, I thought qdec was running a script called mri_glmfit-sim but 
it appears to be running the correction internally. That means that you 
will have to run mri_glmfit-sim yourself, something like

mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir glmdir --cache 1.3 abs

doug


On 12/10/2013 02:53 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
> i have a mri_glmfit.log,(attached)   but no cache.mri_glmfit-sim.log  in the 
> qdec output directory
> Jon
>
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
> To: "Jon Wieser" , Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:42:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>
>
> Is there a cache.mri_glmfit-sim.log in the output folder? Can you send
> it to me? Also, please remember to post to the list. thanks!
> doug
>
>
> On 12/10/2013 02:30 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>> FS version 5.3
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
>> To: "Jon Wieser" , Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:05:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>
>>
>> hmmm, it should be there. What version of FS are you using?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/10/2013 12:57 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>> i was getting the values for the command terminal, when I press the "find 
>>> clusters and GOTo Max" button on the qdec GUI.
>>> there is no file named cache.th20.abs.y.dat or something similar.  i did a 
>>> "find" command to list all the  *abs*.dat files in the directory
>>>
>>> qdec/MTA_ADHD_MJ/lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Intercept-thickness/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat
>>> qdec/MTA_ADHD_MJ/lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Intercept-thickness/mc-z.abs.th20.pdf.dat
>>> qdec/Untitled/lh-Avg-thickness-Age-Cor/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat
>>> qdec/Untitled/lh-Avg-thickness-Gender-Cor/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat
>>> qdec/Untitled/lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Intercept-thickness/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat
>>> qdec/Untitled/lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Intercept-thickness/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat
>>> qdec/Untitled/lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Intercept-thickness/mc-z.abs.th13.pdf.dat
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> these files  contain:
>>>
>

Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates

2013-12-10 Thread Jon Wieser
yes, that is what we want,  but the files contain only 1-3 columns

Jon

- Original Message -
From: "Douglas N Greve" 
To: "Jon Wieser" 
Cc: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:44:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates


There should be a column for each cluster in contrast. Is that what you 
want?


On 12/10/2013 04:37 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
> thanks,
> I ran
>   mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ --cache 1.3 abs
>
> MTA_ADHD_MJ  is my project file and has the results from qdec in it
>
>
> it has produced:
>
> lh-Avg-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
> lh-Avg-thickness-Age-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
> lh-Avg-thickness-Gender-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
> lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
> lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
> lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
> lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
> lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
> lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
> lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
> lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
> lh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
> lh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
> lh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
> rh-Avg-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
> rh-Avg-thickness-Age-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
> rh-Avg-thickness-Gender-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
> rh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
> rh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
> rh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
> rh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
> rh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
> rh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
> rh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
> rh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
> rh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>
>
>
> these files have 120 rows.  each row has a thickness value s
> example
>  2.71869
>  2.52448
>  2.50450
>  2.53677
>  2.58363
>  2.50404
>  2.42116
>  2.61757
>  2.51820
>  2.59009
>  2.42524
>  2.72043
>  2.59479
>  2.38014
>  2.41052
>  2.58483
>  2.49214
>  2.45870
>  2.51685
>  2.62981
>  2.59232
>
> it appears that there is the thickness for each subject in the files
>
> I would like to have the thickness value, for each cluster, for every subject
>
> we have 120 subjects, with  about 40 clusters
> Jon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
> To: "Jon Wieser" 
> Cc: "freesurfer" 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 2:30:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>
>
> OK, sorry, I thought qdec was running a script called mri_glmfit-sim but
> it appears to be running the correction internally. That means that you
> will have to run mri_glmfit-sim yourself, something like
>
> mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir glmdir --cache 1.3 abs
>
> doug
>
>
> On 12/10/2013 02:53 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>> i have a mri_glmfit.log,(attached)   but no cache.mri_glmfit-sim.log  in the 
>> qdec output directory
>> Jon
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
>> To: "Jon Wieser" , Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:42:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>
>>
>> Is there a cache.mri_glmfit-sim.log in the output folder? Can you send
>> it to me? Also, please remember to post to the list. thanks!
>> doug
>>
>>
>> On 12/10/2013 02:30 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>> FS version 5.3
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
>>> To: "Jon Wieser" , Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:05:26 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>
>>>
>>> hmmm, it should be there. What version of FS are you using?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/10/2013 12:57 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>> i was getting the values for the command terminal, when I press the "find 
>&g

Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates

2013-12-10 Thread Jon Wieser
Hi Doug
I'm looking at the effect of MJ usage,   the effect of whetherthe subject has 
AHDH, and  the interaction between MJ usage and ADHD
 our threshold is 1.3

i have attahced our qdec.table.dat  file
we are also looking at age and gender as covariates
Jon

Jon
- Original Message -
From: "Douglas N Greve" 
To: "Jon Wieser" , Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:20:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates


which contrast are you looking at in QDEC? Also, what is the voxel-wise 
threshold in QDEC? The value I gave in the command below is 1.3 but I 
got that from one of your CSD files.


On 12/10/2013 05:10 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
> HI doug,
>   no, the  summary files in the contrasts  have the same # of cluster as the 
> columns in their OCN.dat \
> the 40 cluster are seen in qdec when I run the  "find cluster" and Goto max" 
> button.   most of these clusters go away in qdec when I run the montecarlo  
> simulation
>   
> Jon
> - Original Message -
> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
> To: "Jon Wieser" 
> Cc: "freesurfer" 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:03:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>
>
> So one of the contrasts has 40 clusters in the summary file but the
> y.ocn.dat file only has a few columns?
>
>
> On 12/10/2013 04:54 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>> yes, that is what we want,  but the files contain only 1-3 columns
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
>> To: "Jon Wieser" 
>> Cc: "freesurfer" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:44:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>
>>
>> There should be a column for each cluster in contrast. Is that what you
>> want?
>>
>>
>> On 12/10/2013 04:37 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>> thanks,
>>> I ran
>>> mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ --cache 1.3 abs
>>>
>>> MTA_ADHD_MJ  is my project file and has the results from qdec in it
>>>
>>>
>>> it has produced:
>>>
>>> lh-Avg-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-Avg-thickness-Age-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-Avg-thickness-Gender-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> rh-Avg-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> rh-Avg-thickness-Age-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> rh-Avg-thickness-Gender-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> rh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> rh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> rh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> rh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> rh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> rh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> rh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> rh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> rh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> these files have 120 rows.  each row has a thickness value s
>>> example
>>>2.71869
>>>2.52448
>>>2.50450
>>>2.53677
>>>2.58363
>>>2.50404
>>>2.42116
>>>2.61757
>>>2.51820
>>>2.59009
>>>2.42524
>>>2.72043
>>>2.59479
>>>2.38014
>>>2.41052
>>>2.58483
>>>2.49214
>>>2.45870
>>>2.51685
>>>    2

Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates

2013-12-12 Thread Jon Wieser
Is it possible to  get the individual subject data for the clusters, before the 
monte carlo simulation has been run?
I  click  "find clusters and goto max" .  then on the command line it shows me 
the clusters stats  and then when I click the "next" button under "Clusters". 
it shows me the graph of the thickness for each cluster, with thickness values 
for all subjects.  is it possible to output the data values used to make the 
graph?
Jon

- Original Message -
From: "Jon Wieser" 
To: "Douglas N Greve" 
Cc: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:32:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates

Hi Doug
I'm looking at the effect of MJ usage,   the effect of whetherthe subject has 
AHDH, and  the interaction between MJ usage and ADHD
 our threshold is 1.3

i have attahced our qdec.table.dat  file
we are also looking at age and gender as covariates
Jon

Jon
- Original Message -
From: "Douglas N Greve" 
To: "Jon Wieser" , Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:20:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates


which contrast are you looking at in QDEC? Also, what is the voxel-wise 
threshold in QDEC? The value I gave in the command below is 1.3 but I 
got that from one of your CSD files.


On 12/10/2013 05:10 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
> HI doug,
>   no, the  summary files in the contrasts  have the same # of cluster as the 
> columns in their OCN.dat \
> the 40 cluster are seen in qdec when I run the  "find cluster" and Goto max" 
> button.   most of these clusters go away in qdec when I run the montecarlo  
> simulation
>   
> Jon
> - Original Message -
> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
> To: "Jon Wieser" 
> Cc: "freesurfer" 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:03:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>
>
> So one of the contrasts has 40 clusters in the summary file but the
> y.ocn.dat file only has a few columns?
>
>
> On 12/10/2013 04:54 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>> yes, that is what we want,  but the files contain only 1-3 columns
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
>> To: "Jon Wieser" 
>> Cc: "freesurfer" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:44:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>
>>
>> There should be a column for each cluster in contrast. Is that what you
>> want?
>>
>>
>> On 12/10/2013 04:37 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>> thanks,
>>> I ran
>>> mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ --cache 1.3 abs
>>>
>>> MTA_ADHD_MJ  is my project file and has the results from qdec in it
>>>
>>>
>>> it has produced:
>>>
>>> lh-Avg-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-Avg-thickness-Age-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-Avg-thickness-Gender-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> lh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> rh-Avg-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> rh-Avg-thickness-Age-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> rh-Avg-thickness-Gender-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> rh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> rh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> rh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> rh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> rh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> rh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> rh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> rh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>> rh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th

Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates

2013-12-12 Thread Jon Wieser
oh, so it's showing the  thickness values for one vertex in the cluster, not 
the average of all veretices in the cluster.  we are interested in the average 
of the cluster
Jon

- Original Message -
From: "Douglas N Greve" 
To: "Jon Wieser" 
Cc: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:22:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates


It is showing you scatter plots from individual vertices, not an average 
over the cluster
doug

On 12/12/2013 12:27 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
> Is it possible to  get the individual subject data for the clusters, before 
> the monte carlo simulation has been run?
> I  click  "find clusters and goto max" .  then on the command line it shows 
> me the clusters stats  and then when I click the "next" button under 
> "Clusters". it shows me the graph of the thickness for each cluster, with 
> thickness values for all subjects.  is it possible to output the data values 
> used to make the graph?
> Jon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jon Wieser" 
> To: "Douglas N Greve" 
> Cc: "freesurfer" 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:32:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>
> Hi Doug
> I'm looking at the effect of MJ usage,   the effect of whetherthe subject has 
> AHDH, and  the interaction between MJ usage and ADHD
>   our threshold is 1.3
>
> i have attahced our qdec.table.dat  file
> we are also looking at age and gender as covariates
> Jon
>
> Jon
> - Original Message -
> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
> To: "Jon Wieser" , Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:20:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>
>
> which contrast are you looking at in QDEC? Also, what is the voxel-wise
> threshold in QDEC? The value I gave in the command below is 1.3 but I
> got that from one of your CSD files.
>
>
> On 12/10/2013 05:10 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>> HI doug,
>>no, the  summary files in the contrasts  have the same # of cluster as 
>> the columns in their OCN.dat \
>> the 40 cluster are seen in qdec when I run the  "find cluster" and Goto max" 
>> button.   most of these clusters go away in qdec when I run the montecarlo  
>> simulation
>>
>> Jon
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
>> To: "Jon Wieser" 
>> Cc: "freesurfer" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:03:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>
>>
>> So one of the contrasts has 40 clusters in the summary file but the
>> y.ocn.dat file only has a few columns?
>>
>>
>> On 12/10/2013 04:54 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>> yes, that is what we want,  but the files contain only 1-3 columns
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
>>> To: "Jon Wieser" 
>>> Cc: "freesurfer" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:44:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>
>>>
>>> There should be a column for each cluster in contrast. Is that what you
>>> want?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/10/2013 04:37 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>> thanks,
>>>> I ran
>>>>  mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ --cache 1.3 abs
>>>>
>>>> MTA_ADHD_MJ  is my project file and has the results from qdec in it
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> it has produced:
>>>>
>>>> lh-Avg-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>> lh-Avg-thickness-Age-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>> lh-Avg-thickness-Gender-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>> lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>> lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>> lh-Diff-ADHD-nonADHD-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>> lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>> lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>> lh-Diff-MJnonuser-MJuser-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>> lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>> lh-X-ADHD-MJ_group-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>> lh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Age/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>> lh-X-MJ_group-ADHD-Cor-thickness-Gender/cache.th13.abs.

Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates

2013-12-13 Thread Jon Wieser
HI Doug
MRI_glmfit-sim didn't recognize the --cwd option


 mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ  --cwd .99
ERROR: Flag --cwd unrecognized.
--glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ --cwd .99






- Original Message -
From: "Douglas N Greve" 
To: "Jon Wieser" 
Cc: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 10:54:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates


I'm sure that those clusters are not very significant. Try running 
mri_glmfit-sim with --cwd .99 to capture all clusters
doug


On 12/12/2013 03:27 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
> HI Doug,
> here's a screen shot, showing the clusters and a scatter plot for one of the 
> 45 clusters.
> for this dataset, ussualy there is 0 or 1 clusters after monte carlo 
> simulation.  i'm not sure if they match one of the 45 clusters in qdec. i'l 
> have to  look into that.
>
> I would  like to have a file  which contains the data represented in the 
> scatter plot, for all of the 45 clusters, vlaues of thickness for each 
> subject.  is that possible?
> I tried runnin mri_surfcluster, but it only gave me the average data for that 
> clusters, not the individual data.
>
> thanks!
>
> Jon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
> To: "Jon Wieser" 
> Cc: "freesurfer" 
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:15:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>
>
> I'm not sure what is going on. Can you send a screen shot of the qdec
> window when you see 40 clusters? It might be that it is showing clusters
> regardless of the cluster significance. Do the 3 or 4 clusters created
> when you run mri_glmfit-sim match clusters in qdec?
>
> On 12/10/2013 05:32 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>> Hi Doug
>> I'm looking at the effect of MJ usage,   the effect of whetherthe subject 
>> has AHDH, and  the interaction between MJ usage and ADHD
>>    our threshold is 1.3
>>
>> i have attahced our qdec.table.dat  file
>> we are also looking at age and gender as covariates
>> Jon
>>
>> Jon
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
>> To: "Jon Wieser" , Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:20:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>
>>
>> which contrast are you looking at in QDEC? Also, what is the voxel-wise
>> threshold in QDEC? The value I gave in the command below is 1.3 but I
>> got that from one of your CSD files.
>>
>>
>> On 12/10/2013 05:10 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>> HI doug,
>>> no, the  summary files in the contrasts  have the same # of cluster as 
>>> the columns in their OCN.dat \
>>> the 40 cluster are seen in qdec when I run the  "find cluster" and Goto 
>>> max" button.   most of these clusters go away in qdec when I run the 
>>> montecarlo  simulation
>>> 
>>> Jon
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
>>> To: "Jon Wieser" 
>>> Cc: "freesurfer" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:03:06 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>
>>>
>>> So one of the contrasts has 40 clusters in the summary file but the
>>> y.ocn.dat file only has a few columns?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/10/2013 04:54 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>> yes, that is what we want,  but the files contain only 1-3 columns
>>>>
>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
>>>> To: "Jon Wieser" 
>>>> Cc: "freesurfer" 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 3:44:50 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There should be a column for each cluster in contrast. Is that what you
>>>> want?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/10/2013 04:37 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> I ran
>>>>>   mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ --cache 1.3 abs
>>>>>
>>>>> MTA_ADHD_MJ  is my project file and has the results from qdec in it
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> it has produced:
>>>>>
>>>>> lh-Avg-Intercept-thickness/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> lh-Avg-thickness-Age-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.dat
>>>>> lh-Avg-thickness-Gender-Cor/cache.th13.abs.y.ocn.d

Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates

2013-12-13 Thread Jon Wieser
Hi doug
it's requesting the --sim  option

 mri_glmfit-sim  --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ  --cwp  .99
ERROR: must spec --sim



 mri_glmfit-sim  --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ  --cwp  .99  --sim
ERROR: flag --sim requires four arguments


what args do I give the --sim!

Jon



- Original Message -
From: "Douglas N Greve" 
To: "Jon Wieser" 
Cc: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 11:18:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates

sorry, it is --cwp

On 12/13/2013 12:12 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
> HI Doug
> MRI_glmfit-sim didn't recognize the --cwd option
>
>
>   mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ  --cwd .99
> ERROR: Flag --cwd unrecognized.
> --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ --cwd .99
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
> To: "Jon Wieser" 
> Cc: "freesurfer" 
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 10:54:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>
>
> I'm sure that those clusters are not very significant. Try running
> mri_glmfit-sim with --cwd .99 to capture all clusters
> doug
>
>
> On 12/12/2013 03:27 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>> HI Doug,
>> here's a screen shot, showing the clusters and a scatter plot for one of the 
>> 45 clusters.
>> for this dataset, ussualy there is 0 or 1 clusters after monte carlo 
>> simulation.  i'm not sure if they match one of the 45 clusters in qdec. i'l 
>> have to  look into that.
>>
>> I would  like to have a file  which contains the data represented in the 
>> scatter plot, for all of the 45 clusters, vlaues of thickness for each 
>> subject.  is that possible?
>> I tried runnin mri_surfcluster, but it only gave me the average data for 
>> that clusters, not the individual data.
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
>> To: "Jon Wieser" 
>> Cc: "freesurfer" 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:15:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure what is going on. Can you send a screen shot of the qdec
>> window when you see 40 clusters? It might be that it is showing clusters
>> regardless of the cluster significance. Do the 3 or 4 clusters created
>> when you run mri_glmfit-sim match clusters in qdec?
>>
>> On 12/10/2013 05:32 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>> Hi Doug
>>> I'm looking at the effect of MJ usage,   the effect of whetherthe subject 
>>> has AHDH, and  the interaction between MJ usage and ADHD
>>> our threshold is 1.3
>>>
>>> i have attahced our qdec.table.dat  file
>>> we are also looking at age and gender as covariates
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> Jon
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
>>> To: "Jon Wieser" , Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:20:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>
>>>
>>> which contrast are you looking at in QDEC? Also, what is the voxel-wise
>>> threshold in QDEC? The value I gave in the command below is 1.3 but I
>>> got that from one of your CSD files.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/10/2013 05:10 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>> HI doug,
>>>>  no, the  summary files in the contrasts  have the same # of cluster 
>>>> as the columns in their OCN.dat \
>>>> the 40 cluster are seen in qdec when I run the  "find cluster" and Goto 
>>>> max" button.   most of these clusters go away in qdec when I run the 
>>>> montecarlo  simulation
>>>>  
>>>> Jon
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
>>>> To: "Jon Wieser" 
>>>> Cc: "freesurfer" 
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 4:03:06 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So one of the contrasts has 40 clusters in the summary file but the
>>>> y.ocn.dat file only has a few columns?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/10/2013 04:54 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>>> yes, that is what we want,  but the files contain only 1-3 columns
>>>>>
>>>>> Jon
>>>>>
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
>>>>> To: &qu

Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates

2013-12-16 Thread Jon Wieser
Hi Doug

I ran :
mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ --cache 2.0 abs --cwp .9

I have attached three of the output summary files

Can you please confirm  how to assess the cluster-wise p-value?

Jon

- Original Message -
From: "Douglas N Greve" 
To: "Jon Wieser" , Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 12:12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates


I would have thought that it would have gotten all of them. You can try 
something like --cwp .9


On 12/13/2013 01:03 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
> HI doug
> thanks,  that worked.  it  captured from 3-13  clusters  for each contrast,  
> not quite the 30-45 that I was seeing  in the GUI.
> perhaps theses are the most significant clusters?
> Jon
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
> To: "Jon Wieser" 
> Cc: "freesurfer" 
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 11:43:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>
>
> use the command I gave you before just add --cwp .99 to it
> doug
>
>
> On 12/13/2013 12:25 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>> Hi doug
>> it's requesting the --sim  option
>>
>>mri_glmfit-sim  --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ  --cwp  .99
>> ERROR: must spec --sim
>>
>>
>>
>>mri_glmfit-sim  --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ  --cwp  .99  --sim
>> ERROR: flag --sim requires four arguments
>>
>>
>> what args do I give the --sim!
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
>> To: "Jon Wieser" 
>> Cc: "freesurfer" 
>> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 11:18:49 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>
>> sorry, it is --cwp
>>
>> On 12/13/2013 12:12 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>> HI Doug
>>> MRI_glmfit-sim didn't recognize the --cwd option
>>>
>>>
>>> mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ  --cwd .99
>>> ERROR: Flag --cwd unrecognized.
>>> --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ --cwd .99
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
>>> To: "Jon Wieser" 
>>> Cc: "freesurfer" 
>>> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 10:54:19 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm sure that those clusters are not very significant. Try running
>>> mri_glmfit-sim with --cwd .99 to capture all clusters
>>> doug
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/12/2013 03:27 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>> HI Doug,
>>>> here's a screen shot, showing the clusters and a scatter plot for one of 
>>>> the 45 clusters.
>>>> for this dataset, ussualy there is 0 or 1 clusters after monte carlo 
>>>> simulation.  i'm not sure if they match one of the 45 clusters in qdec. 
>>>> i'l have to  look into that.
>>>>
>>>> I would  like to have a file  which contains the data represented in the 
>>>> scatter plot, for all of the 45 clusters, vlaues of thickness for each 
>>>> subject.  is that possible?
>>>> I tried runnin mri_surfcluster, but it only gave me the average data for 
>>>> that clusters, not the individual data.
>>>>
>>>> thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
>>>> To: "Jon Wieser" 
>>>> Cc: "freesurfer" 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 1:15:58 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what is going on. Can you send a screen shot of the qdec
>>>> window when you see 40 clusters? It might be that it is showing clusters
>>>> regardless of the cluster significance. Do the 3 or 4 clusters created
>>>> when you run mri_glmfit-sim match clusters in qdec?
>>>>
>>>> On 12/10/2013 05:32 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>>> Hi Doug
>>>>> I'm looking at the effect of MJ usage,   the effect of whetherthe subject 
>>>>> has AHDH, and  the interaction between MJ usage and ADHD
>>>>>   our threshold is 1.3
>>>>>
>>>>> i have attahced our qdec.table.dat  file
>>>>> we are also looking at age and gender as covariates
>>>>>

Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates

2013-12-17 Thread Jon Wieser
so in the following cluster, the cluster-wise p-value is  0.80130?

# ClusterNo  Max   VtxMax   Size(mm^2)  MNIX   MNIY   MNIZCWPCWPLow
CWPHi   NVtxs   Annot
 1  3.247   90900134.66-37.1  -33.2  -24.5  0.80130  0.79620  
0.80640   267  fusiform


- Original Message -
From: "Douglas N Greve" 
To: "Jon Wieser" 
Cc: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 4:28:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates

look at the CWP column
doug

On 12/16/2013 05:14 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
> Hi Doug
>
> I ran :
> mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ --cache 2.0 abs --cwp .9
>
> I have attached three of the output summary files
>
> Can you please confirm  how to assess the cluster-wise p-value?
>
> Jon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
> To: "Jon Wieser" , Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 12:12:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>
>
> I would have thought that it would have gotten all of them. You can try
> something like --cwp .9
>
>
> On 12/13/2013 01:03 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>> HI doug
>> thanks,  that worked.  it  captured from 3-13  clusters  for each contrast,  
>> not quite the 30-45 that I was seeing  in the GUI.
>> perhaps theses are the most significant clusters?
>> Jon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
>> To: "Jon Wieser" 
>> Cc: "freesurfer" 
>> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 11:43:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>
>>
>> use the command I gave you before just add --cwp .99 to it
>> doug
>>
>>
>> On 12/13/2013 12:25 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>> Hi doug
>>> it's requesting the --sim  option
>>>
>>> mri_glmfit-sim  --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ  --cwp  .99
>>> ERROR: must spec --sim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> mri_glmfit-sim  --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ  --cwp  .99  --sim
>>> ERROR: flag --sim requires four arguments
>>>
>>>
>>> what args do I give the --sim!
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
>>> To: "Jon Wieser" 
>>> Cc: "freesurfer" 
>>> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 11:18:49 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>
>>> sorry, it is --cwp
>>>
>>> On 12/13/2013 12:12 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>> HI Doug
>>>> MRI_glmfit-sim didn't recognize the --cwd option
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ  --cwd .99
>>>> ERROR: Flag --cwd unrecognized.
>>>> --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ --cwd .99
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
>>>> To: "Jon Wieser" 
>>>> Cc: "freesurfer" 
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 10:54:19 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure that those clusters are not very significant. Try running
>>>> mri_glmfit-sim with --cwd .99 to capture all clusters
>>>> doug
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/12/2013 03:27 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>>> HI Doug,
>>>>> here's a screen shot, showing the clusters and a scatter plot for one of 
>>>>> the 45 clusters.
>>>>> for this dataset, ussualy there is 0 or 1 clusters after monte carlo 
>>>>> simulation.  i'm not sure if they match one of the 45 clusters in qdec. 
>>>>> i'l have to  look into that.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would  like to have a file  which contains the data represented in the 
>>>>> scatter plot, for all of the 45 clusters, vlaues of thickness for each 
>>>>> subject.  is that possible?
>>>>> I tried runnin mri_surfcluster, but it only gave me the average data for 
>>>>> that clusters, not the individual data.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Jon
>>>>>
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
>>>>> To: "Jon Wieser" 
>>>

[Freesurfer] mri_glmfit-sim Error

2013-12-17 Thread Jon Wieser

After running a group comparison using qdec I wanted to use mc-z   
for multiple comparison correction 
I tried running:


mri_glmfit-sim   \
--glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ2   \
--sim mc-z 1000 2.0 mc-z.negative   \
--sim-sign abs --cwpvalthresh 0.999  \
--overwrite


ERROR: dimension mismatch between X and contrast 
MTA_ADHD_MJ2/tmp.mri_glmfit-sim-9440/lh-Avg-thickness-Age-Cor.mtx   X has 4 
cols, C has 8 cols


What does this mean and how to fix it? 
-- 
Jon Wieser
Research Specialist
UW-Milwaukee
Psychology Department, Pearse Hall Rm 366
2441 East Hartford Ave
Milwaukee, WI 53211
Phone: 414-229-7145
Fax: 414-229-5219
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Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates

2013-12-17 Thread Jon Wieser
I would think that a p-value of 0.8013 is very insignificant.  Am I missing 
somthing?
Jon

- Original Message -
From: "Douglas N Greve" 
To: "Jon Wieser" 
Cc: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:46:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates


Yes, with a 95% confidence range of .7962 to .8065
doug


On 12/17/2013 11:04 AM, Jon Wieser wrote:
> so in the following cluster, the cluster-wise p-value is  0.80130?
>
> # ClusterNo  Max   VtxMax   Size(mm^2)  MNIX   MNIY   MNIZCWPCWPLow   
>  CWPHi   NVtxs   Annot
>   1  3.247   90900134.66-37.1  -33.2  -24.5  0.80130  0.79620 
>  0.80640   267  fusiform
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
> To: "Jon Wieser" 
> Cc: "freesurfer" 
> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 4:28:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>
> look at the CWP column
> doug
>
> On 12/16/2013 05:14 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>> Hi Doug
>>
>> I ran :
>> mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ --cache 2.0 abs --cwp .9
>>
>> I have attached three of the output summary files
>>
>> Can you please confirm  how to assess the cluster-wise p-value?
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
>> To: "Jon Wieser" , Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 12:12:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>
>>
>> I would have thought that it would have gotten all of them. You can try
>> something like --cwp .9
>>
>>
>> On 12/13/2013 01:03 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>> HI doug
>>> thanks,  that worked.  it  captured from 3-13  clusters  for each contrast, 
>>>  not quite the 30-45 that I was seeing  in the GUI.
>>> perhaps theses are the most significant clusters?
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
>>> To: "Jon Wieser" 
>>> Cc: "freesurfer" 
>>> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 11:43:29 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>
>>>
>>> use the command I gave you before just add --cwp .99 to it
>>> doug
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/13/2013 12:25 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>> Hi doug
>>>> it's requesting the --sim  option
>>>>
>>>>  mri_glmfit-sim  --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ  --cwp  .99
>>>> ERROR: must spec --sim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  mri_glmfit-sim  --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ  --cwp  .99  --sim
>>>> ERROR: flag --sim requires four arguments
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> what args do I give the --sim!
>>>>
>>>> Jon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
>>>> To: "Jon Wieser" 
>>>> Cc: "freesurfer" 
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 11:18:49 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>>
>>>> sorry, it is --cwp
>>>>
>>>> On 12/13/2013 12:12 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>>> HI Doug
>>>>> MRI_glmfit-sim didn't recognize the --cwd option
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ  --cwd .99
>>>>> ERROR: Flag --cwd unrecognized.
>>>>> --glmdir MTA_ADHD_MJ --cwd .99
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: "Douglas N Greve" 
>>>>> To: "Jon Wieser" 
>>>>> Cc: "freesurfer" 
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 10:54:19 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] qdec analysis with 2 covariates
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure that those clusters are not very significant. Try running
>>>>> mri_glmfit-sim with --cwd .99 to capture all clusters
>>>>> doug
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/12/2013 03:27 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>>>> HI Doug,
>>>>>> here's a screen shot, showing the clusters and a scatter plot for one of 
>>>>>> the 45 clusters.
>>>>&g

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Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -prep error

2014-01-10 Thread Jon Wieser
the dmri_train command is giving a segmentation fault. how can I fix this?
Jon

- Original Message -
From: "Jon Wieser" 
To: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2014 2:23:34 PM
Subject: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -prep error



Hello
I'm getting the following error when running trac-all -c dmrirc -prep

INFO: Distances between consecutive points in test subject's space are 7 9 7 8
WARN: Could not find satisfactory control point fit - try 809
Writing output files to 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/Data/MRI/N1096/data/freesurfer/dlabel/mni/lh.ilf_AS_avg23_mni_bbr_*
Writing spline volume to 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/Data/MRI/N1096/data/freesurfer/dlabel/mni/lh.ilf_AS_avg23_mni_bbr_cpts_5.nii.gz
Segmentation fault 
Darwin cerebrum.uwm.edu 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun  7 
16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386

trac-preproc exited with ERRORS at Wed Jan  8 12:07:54 CST 2014


i'm running traclua 5.3

attached are the trac-all.log and trac-ll.error files



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Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error

2014-01-10 Thread Jon Wieser

dmri_paths is producing a segmentation fault. How can I fix this?
thanks
JOn
- Original Message -
From: "Jon Wieser" 
To: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2014 11:54:55 AM
Subject: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path  error




Dear freesurfer experts
I'm getting the following error when runing trac-all -c dmrirc_single_subject 
-path


Loading initial proposal SD's from 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/Data/MRI/N1084/data/freesurfer/dlabel/diff/lh.ilf_AS_avg23_mni_flt_cpts_5_std.txt
Processing pathway 3 of 18...
Initializing MCMC
Segmentation fault 
Darwin cerebrum.uwm.edu 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun  7 
16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386


I have attached the trac-all.log and trac-all.error   files

I am running tracula 5.3
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Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error

2014-01-22 Thread Jon Wieser
Hi Anastasia,

I din't see anything missing from the brainmask or aparc+seg.  I sent you the 
brainmask and aparc+seg files
did you find anything wrong.  if not, what else could cause the  segmentatino 
fault?
Thanks

- Original Message -
From: "Anastasia Yendiki" 
To: "Jon Wieser" 
Cc: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 6:15:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path  error


Hi Jon - Have you checked the brain mask and aparc+aseg for this subject? 
Anything missing there that might affect the left ILF?

a.y

On Wed, 8 Jan 2014, Jon Wieser wrote:

>
> Dear freesurfer experts
> I'm getting the following error when runing trac-all -c dmrirc_single_subject 
> -path
>
>
> Loading initial proposal SD's from 
> /BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/Data/MRI/N1084/data/freesurfer/dlabel/diff/lh.ilf_AS_avg23_mni_flt_cpts_5_std.txt
> Processing pathway 3 of 18...
> Initializing MCMC
> Segmentation fault
> Darwin cerebrum.uwm.edu 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun  7 
> 16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386
>
>
> I have attached the trac-all.log and trac-all.error   files
>
> I am running tracula 5.3
>


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Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -prep error

2014-01-22 Thread Jon Wieser
Hi Anastasia,
I didn't see anything blatently wrong with the apar+aseg or the DWI's.   Can 
you be more specific as to  what I should be looking for
Thanks!
Jon

- Original Message -
From: "Anastasia Yendiki" 
To: "Jon Wieser" 
Cc: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 6:16:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -prep error


Hi Jon - Again I'd look at this subject's aparc+aseg, as well as the DWIs 
themselves to see if there's anything going on that might affect the left 
ILF.

a.y

On Wed, 8 Jan 2014, Jon Wieser wrote:

>
>
> Hello
> I'm getting the following error when running trac-all -c dmrirc -prep
>
> INFO: Distances between consecutive points in test subject's space are 7 9 7 8
> WARN: Could not find satisfactory control point fit - try 809
> Writing output files to 
> /BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/Data/MRI/N1096/data/freesurfer/dlabel/mni/lh.ilf_AS_avg23_mni_bbr_*
> Writing spline volume to 
> /BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/Data/MRI/N1096/data/freesurfer/dlabel/mni/lh.ilf_AS_avg23_mni_bbr_cpts_5.nii.gz
> Segmentation fault
> Darwin cerebrum.uwm.edu 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun  7 
> 16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386
>
> trac-preproc exited with ERRORS at Wed Jan  8 12:07:54 CST 2014
>
>
> i'm running traclua 5.3
>
> attached are the trac-all.log and trac-ll.error files
>
>
>
>


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[Freesurfer] Fwd: Fwd: trac-all -path error

2014-01-29 Thread Jon Wieser


Hi Anastasia,

I didn't see anything missing from the brainmask or aparc+seg.  I sent you the 
brainmask and aparc+seg files
did you find anything wrong.  if not, what else could cause the  segmentatino 
fault?
Thanks

- Original Message -
From: "Anastasia Yendiki" 
To: "Jon Wieser" 
Cc: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 6:15:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path  error


Hi Jon - Have you checked the brain mask and aparc+aseg for this subject? 
Anything missing there that might affect the left ILF?

a.y

On Wed, 8 Jan 2014, Jon Wieser wrote:

>
> Dear freesurfer experts
> I'm getting the following error when runing trac-all -c dmrirc_single_subject 
> -path
>
>
> Loading initial proposal SD's from 
> /BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/Data/MRI/N1084/data/freesurfer/dlabel/diff/lh.ilf_AS_avg23_mni_flt_cpts_5_std.txt
> Processing pathway 3 of 18...
> Initializing MCMC
> Segmentation fault
> Darwin cerebrum.uwm.edu 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun  7 
> 16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386
>
>
> I have attached the trac-all.log and trac-all.error   files
>
> I am running tracula 5.3
>


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[Freesurfer] Fwd: Fwd: trac-all -prep error

2014-01-29 Thread Jon Wieser


- Forwarded Message -
From: "Jon Wieser" 
To: "Anastasia Yendiki" 
Cc: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -prep error

Hi Anastasia,
I didn't see anything blatently wrong with the apar+aseg or the DWI's.   Can 
you be more specific as to  what I should be looking for
Thanks!
Jon

- Original Message -----
From: "Anastasia Yendiki" 
To: "Jon Wieser" 
Cc: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 6:16:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -prep error


Hi Jon - Again I'd look at this subject's aparc+aseg, as well as the DWIs 
themselves to see if there's anything going on that might affect the left 
ILF.

a.y

On Wed, 8 Jan 2014, Jon Wieser wrote:

>
>
> Hello
> I'm getting the following error when running trac-all -c dmrirc -prep
>
> INFO: Distances between consecutive points in test subject's space are 7 9 7 8
> WARN: Could not find satisfactory control point fit - try 809
> Writing output files to 
> /BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/Data/MRI/N1096/data/freesurfer/dlabel/mni/lh.ilf_AS_avg23_mni_bbr_*
> Writing spline volume to 
> /BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/Data/MRI/N1096/data/freesurfer/dlabel/mni/lh.ilf_AS_avg23_mni_bbr_cpts_5.nii.gz
> Segmentation fault
> Darwin cerebrum.uwm.edu 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun  7 
> 16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386
>
> trac-preproc exited with ERRORS at Wed Jan  8 12:07:54 CST 2014
>
>
> i'm running traclua 5.3
>
> attached are the trac-all.log and trac-ll.error files
>
>
>
>


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Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error

2014-02-06 Thread Jon Wieser
Hi Anastasia,
We used both flirt and bbr registration in the dmrirc file,   the Aparc+seg I 
just showedd you was from  the BBR resitration.  I looked at the flirt 
registration.  it looks OK.
should I rerun tracula using only the flirt registration?
Jon

- Original Message -
From: "Anastasia Yendiki" 
To: "Jon Wieser" 
Cc: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 11:00:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path  error


So there's your culprit. You need to fix the intra-subject 
(diffusion-to-T1) registration. Did you use flirt or bbregister for that?

On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Jon Wieser wrote:

> Hi Anastasia,
> I looked at the dlabel/diff/Aparc+aseg overlayed on the dmri/dtifit_FA.nii.gz
> the alignemenst is way off (in freeview, in the coronal view, the aparc+seg 
> is rotated 45 degrees anti-clockwise),  and parts of the FA map in the L ILF 
> area are missing.  the original DTI is not missing data in these areas. I 
> have attached screenshots
> Jon
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Anastasia Yendiki" 
> To: "Jon Wieser" 
> Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 6:35:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path  error
>
>
> Hi Jon - You need to look at the aparc+aseg after it has been mapped to
> diffusion space. It's possible that it looks fine in its original space
> but then maybe something goes wrong with the registration. So you should
> look at the aparc+aseg and aparc+aseg_mask files from the tracula
> dlabel/diff directory. These are in diffusion space and you can overlay
> them on the FA map to see if there's anything strange in the ILF area.
>
> Hope this helps,
> a.y
>
> On Tue, 14 Jan 2014, Jon Wieser wrote:
>
>> Hi anastasia
>> I looked at the brainmask and the aparc+aseg.  I did see anything missing  
>> in the area of the left ILF.
>> I have attached the files.  can you take a look at them?
>> Thanks
>> JOn
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Anastasia Yendiki" 
>> To: "Jon Wieser" 
>> Cc: "freesurfer" 
>> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 6:15:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path  error
>>
>>
>> Hi Jon - Have you checked the brain mask and aparc+aseg for this subject?
>> Anything missing there that might affect the left ILF?
>>
>> a.y
>>
>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2014, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Dear freesurfer experts
>>> I'm getting the following error when runing trac-all -c 
>>> dmrirc_single_subject -path
>>>
>>>
>>> Loading initial proposal SD's from 
>>> /BrainLabDocs/Studies/Nicotine_MJ_Ecstasy_Study/Data/MRI/N1084/data/freesurfer/dlabel/diff/lh.ilf_AS_avg23_mni_flt_cpts_5_std.txt
>>> Processing pathway 3 of 18...
>>> Initializing MCMC
>>> Segmentation fault
>>> Darwin cerebrum.uwm.edu 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun  7 
>>> 16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386
>>>
>>>
>>> I have attached the trac-all.log and trac-all.error   files
>>>
>>> I am running tracula 5.3
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path error

2014-02-10 Thread Jon Wieser
Hi Anastasia,
thanks for the information.we are able to process the DTI data successfully. 
we had 24 subjects which crashed during either the -perp or -path stage.
I viewed the alignments between the FA and the alignement segmentations (flirt 
and bbr alignments),  which ever alignment is better. I modify the dmrirc file 
to use that alignment and rerun trac-all , starting at the -prep stage
all but 2 were successfuly processed with  my method, that the dti tracts  look 
good in freeview
i didn't realign the registration using  tkregister,  because the anatomies are 
poor and lo res, making this realignment difficult
 thanks again!

JOn

- Original Message -
From: "Anastasia Yendiki" 
To: "Jon Wieser" 
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 3:16:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path  error


We've generally seen better results with BBR, which is why it became the 
default setting.

On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Jon Wieser wrote:

> HI Anastasia,
>
> I ran it again with the flirt registration and it finished ok.
> We did not have a specific reason for running it both ways. we are using the 
> default setting for the dmrirc file.
> do you recommend one method over the other?
>
> thanks again
> Jon
>
> ----- Original Message -
> From: "Anastasia Yendiki" 
> To: "Jon Wieser" 
> Cc: "freesurfer" 
> Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 3:07:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path  error
>
>
> That's entirely up to you, and whether you had a specific reason for
> running it both ways.
>
> If you want to fix the bbr registration manually, check the trac-all.log
> file for a command at the end of bbregister, where it says "To check
> results, run".
>
> On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Jon Wieser wrote:
>
>> Hi Anastasia,
>> We used both flirt and bbr registration in the dmrirc file,   the Aparc+seg 
>> I just showedd you was from  the BBR resitration.  I looked at the flirt 
>> registration.  it looks OK.
>> should I rerun tracula using only the flirt registration?
>> Jon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Anastasia Yendiki" 
>> To: "Jon Wieser" 
>> Cc: "freesurfer" 
>> Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 11:00:25 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path  error
>>
>>
>> So there's your culprit. You need to fix the intra-subject
>> (diffusion-to-T1) registration. Did you use flirt or bbregister for that?
>>
>> On Thu, 6 Feb 2014, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Anastasia,
>>> I looked at the dlabel/diff/Aparc+aseg overlayed on the 
>>> dmri/dtifit_FA.nii.gz
>>> the alignemenst is way off (in freeview, in the coronal view, the aparc+seg 
>>> is rotated 45 degrees anti-clockwise),  and parts of the FA map in the L 
>>> ILF area are missing.  the original DTI is not missing data in these areas. 
>>> I have attached screenshots
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Anastasia Yendiki" 
>>> To: "Jon Wieser" 
>>> Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 6:35:12 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path  error
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Jon - You need to look at the aparc+aseg after it has been mapped to
>>> diffusion space. It's possible that it looks fine in its original space
>>> but then maybe something goes wrong with the registration. So you should
>>> look at the aparc+aseg and aparc+aseg_mask files from the tracula
>>> dlabel/diff directory. These are in diffusion space and you can overlay
>>> them on the FA map to see if there's anything strange in the ILF area.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> a.y
>>>
>>> On Tue, 14 Jan 2014, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi anastasia
>>>> I looked at the brainmask and the aparc+aseg.  I did see anything missing  
>>>> in the area of the left ILF.
>>>> I have attached the files.  can you take a look at them?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> JOn
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Anastasia Yendiki" 
>>>> To: "Jon Wieser" 
>>>> Cc: "freesurfer" 
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 6:15:23 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all -path  error
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jon - Have you checked the brain mask and aparc+aseg for this subject?
>>>&g

[Freesurfer] trac-all -prep exited with errors

2013-03-22 Thread Jon Wieser
Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1267//freesurfer/dlabel/anatorig/lowb_brain_mask.flt
Image Exception : #23 :: Failed to open volume 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1267//freesurfer/dlabel/anatorig/lowb_brain_mask.flt
 for writing
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'RBD_COMMON::BaseException'
Abort 
Darwin cerebrum.uwm.edu 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun  7 
16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386

trac-preproc exited with ERRORS at Fri Mar 22 11:41:39 CDT 2013



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[Freesurfer] trackstats2table error

2013-03-26 Thread Jon Wieser
I am trying to convert my dti tracts stats to  a table and got the following 
error


tractstats2table --inputs  fmajor_PP_avg23_mni_flt/pathstats.overall.txt  
--overall   --tablefile table.txt
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/freesurfer/bin/tractstats2table", line 9, in 
from fsutils import TractOverallStatsParser, TractByvoxelStatsParser, 
BadFileError, tractlogger
ImportError: cannot import name TractOverallStatsParser

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Re: [Freesurfer] trackstats2table error

2013-03-26 Thread Jon Wieser

i fixed the problem

- Original Message -
From: "Jon Wieser" 
To: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 4:21:35 PM
Subject: [Freesurfer] trackstats2table error

I am trying to convert my dti tracts stats to  a table and got the following 
error


tractstats2table --inputs  fmajor_PP_avg23_mni_flt/pathstats.overall.txt  
--overall   --tablefile table.txt
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/freesurfer/bin/tractstats2table", line 9, in 
from fsutils import TractOverallStatsParser, TractByvoxelStatsParser, 
BadFileError, tractlogger
ImportError: cannot import name TractOverallStatsParser

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[Freesurfer] tractstats@table output oddity

2013-03-27 Thread Jon Wieser
I ran tractstats2table   to make a table of my dti tract stats for the 
fmajor_PP tract

see the attached script file @tractstats2table   and the file list  
"fmajor_file_list.txt"
it produced the output file "fmajor_table.txt"  (attached)
in the output table   all the values for the variables are the same for the 7 
rows. 
the values are from last file in the list 
DTItracts/1276/fmajor_PP_avg23_mni_flt/pathstats.overall.txt

 why is this?  input files have different values for the various variable
Jon


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@tractstats2table
Description: Binary data
DTItracts/1069/fmajor_PP_avg23_mni_flt/pathstats.overall.txt 
DTItracts/1167/fmajor_PP_avg23_mni_flt/pathstats.overall.txt 
DTItracts/1191/fmajor_PP_avg23_mni_flt/pathstats.overall.txt 
DTItracts/1248/fmajor_PP_avg23_mni_flt/pathstats.overall.txt 
DTItracts/1252/fmajor_PP_avg23_mni_flt/pathstats.overall.txt 
DTItracts/1267/fmajor_PP_avg23_mni_flt/pathstats.overall.txt 
DTItracts/1276/fmajor_PP_avg23_mni_flt/pathstats.overall.txt 


fmajor  Count   Volume  Len_Min Len_Max Len_Avg Len_Center  AD_Avg  
AD_Avg_Weight   AD_Avg_Center   RD_Avg  RD_Avg_Weight   RD_Avg_Center   MD_Avg  
MD_Avg_Weight   MD_Avg_Center   FA_Avg  FA_Avg_Weight   FA_Avg_Center
freesurfer  1000.0  144.0   29.050.036.896  34.00.00133574  
0.00136416  0.00126968  0.000659806 0.000681595 0.000547329 
0.000885118 0.000909116 0.000788114 0.4350630.433158
0.486111
freesurfer  1000.0  144.0   29.050.036.896  34.00.00133574  
0.00136416  0.00126968  0.000659806 0.000681595 0.000547329 
0.000885118 0.000909116 0.000788114 0.4350630.433158
0.486111
freesurfer  1000.0  144.0   29.050.036.896  34.00.00133574  
0.00136416  0.00126968  0.000659806 0.000681595 0.000547329 
0.000885118 0.000909116 0.000788114 0.4350630.433158
0.486111
freesurfer  1000.0  144.0   29.050.036.896  34.00.00133574  
0.00136416  0.00126968  0.000659806 0.000681595 0.000547329 
0.000885118 0.000909116 0.000788114 0.4350630.433158
0.486111
freesurfer  1000.0  144.0   29.050.036.896  34.00.00133574  
0.00136416  0.00126968  0.000659806 0.000681595 0.000547329 
0.000885118 0.000909116 0.000788114 0.4350630.433158
0.486111
freesurfer  1000.0  144.0   29.050.036.896  34.00.00133574  
0.00136416  0.00126968  0.000659806 0.000681595 0.000547329 
0.000885118 0.000909116 0.000788114 0.4350630.433158
0.486111
freesurfer  1000.0  144.0   29.050.036.896  34.00.00133574  
0.00136416  0.00126968  0.000659806 0.000681595 0.000547329 
0.000885118 0.000909116 0.000788114 0.4350630.433158
0.486111
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Re: [Freesurfer] tractstats@table output oddity

2013-03-27 Thread Jon Wieser
if i do the 7 subjects individually, 1 by 1  with the tractstats2table for each 
subject, the data in the table are ok,

it's just when I process them all with 1 tractsstat2table command, that the 
data is the same in each row of the output

Jon

- Original Message -
From: "Jon Wieser" 
To: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 12:17:40 PM
Subject: [Freesurfer] tractstats@table output   oddity

I ran tractstats2table   to make a table of my dti tract stats for the 
fmajor_PP tract

see the attached script file @tractstats2table   and the file list  
"fmajor_file_list.txt"
it produced the output file "fmajor_table.txt"  (attached)
in the output table   all the values for the variables are the same for the 7 
rows. 
the values are from last file in the list 
DTItracts/1276/fmajor_PP_avg23_mni_flt/pathstats.overall.txt

 why is this?  input files have different values for the various variable
Jon


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Re: [Freesurfer] error during trac-all -prep

2013-03-27 Thread Jon Wieser
attached is the dmrirc config file

- Original Message -
From: "Jon Wieser" 
To: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 3:33:03 PM
Subject: [Freesurfer] error during trac-all -prep

i ran 
trac-all -prep -c dmrirc_single_subject
 and got the error : 

fslmaths 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1223/freesurfer/dlabel/anatorig/anat_brain_mask.nii.gz
 -mul 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1223/freesurfer/dlabel/anatorig/notventricles.nii.gz
 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1223/freesurfer/dlabel/anatorig/anat_brain_mask-vent.nii.gz
Image Exception : #3 :: Attempted to multiply images/ROIs of different sizes
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'RBD_COMMON::BaseException'
Abort 


I have attached the trac-all .log and trac-all.error  files

I don't know how to fix this error


Thanks
Jon
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[Freesurfer] tractstats@table output oddity

2013-03-31 Thread Jon Wieser



Subject: [Freesurfer] tractstats@table output   oddity

I ran tractstats2table   to make a table of my dti tract stats for the 
fmajor_PP tract

see the attached script file @tractstats2table   and the file list  
"fmajor_file_list.txt"
it produced the output file "fmajor_table.txt"  (attached)
in the output table   all the values for the variables are the same for the 7 
rows. 
the values are from last file in the list 
DTItracts/1276/fmajor_PP_avg23_mni_flt/pathstats.overall.txt

 why is this?  input files have different values for the various variable
Jon


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[Freesurfer] merging dti data

2013-04-10 Thread Jon Wieser
we captured some dti data. there were 2 runs. we acquired in the axial plane, 
2mm slice thickness the first run captured the lower half of the brain, slice 
locations: I56-S20, and the second run captured the upper half of the brain 
S16-S92. i have made briks from each of these runs.
I can convert the briks to nifti files
I want to merge the nifti files together to analyze the data in tracula

In the past i have merged data from two dti runs, but each run have covered the 
entire brain,  with the following commands

mri_convert MJ0001dti1+orig.BRIK MJ0001dti1.nii.gz
mri_convert MJ0001dti2+orig.BRIK MJ0001dti2.nii.gz
mri_concat --i MJ0001dti1.nii.gz MJ0001dti2.nii.gz --o MJ0001dti12.nii.gz


would it work to concat the two half brain niftis into one file and analyze 
that with tracula?
(I will concat the bvec and bvals files too)
would this cause problems doing it this way?
Thanks
Jon

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Re: [Freesurfer] merging dti data

2013-04-11 Thread Jon Wieser
Those commands were given to me by Anastasia.  they work fine for merging two 
whole brain datasets. 
jon

- Original Message -
From: "Douglas Greve" 
To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:13:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] merging dti data


Hi Jon, I don't know how to make this work, but I'm sure that those 
commands will not do it. Sorry:(
doug




On 4/10/13 1:13 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
> we captured some dti data. there were 2 runs. we acquired in the axial plane, 
> 2mm slice thickness the first run captured the lower half of the brain, slice 
> locations: I56-S20, and the second run captured the upper half of the brain 
> S16-S92. i have made briks from each of these runs.
> I can convert the briks to nifti files
> I want to merge the nifti files together to analyze the data in tracula
>
> In the past i have merged data from two dti runs, but each run have covered 
> the entire brain,  with the following commands
>
> mri_convert MJ0001dti1+orig.BRIK MJ0001dti1.nii.gz
> mri_convert MJ0001dti2+orig.BRIK MJ0001dti2.nii.gz
> mri_concat --i MJ0001dti1.nii.gz MJ0001dti2.nii.gz --o MJ0001dti12.nii.gz
>
>
> would it work to concat the two half brain niftis into one file and analyze 
> that with tracula?
> (I will concat the bvec and bvals files too)
> would this cause problems doing it this way?
> Thanks
> Jon
>

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Re: [Freesurfer] merging dti data

2013-04-11 Thread Jon Wieser
the gradients were the same for each slab. What is the difficulty with runnning 
the merged brain halves in tracula?


I have another to do it that I am going to try.  I made AFNI Brik's of the two 
slabs, and merged them together into one AFNI brik with the AFNI command 
3dZcat.   I made a nifti file from the merged afni brik.  i will try running 
tracula on the merged nifti file.

Jon

- Original Message -
From: "Douglas Greve" 
To: "Jon Wieser" 
Cc: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:56:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] merging dti data

yes, they work for whole brain, but not if you have two brain halves. 
You might be able to do something in matlab. I assume the gradient 
direction order was the same for both slabs?
doug




On 4/11/13 10:36 AM, Jon Wieser wrote:
> Those commands were given to me by Anastasia.  they work fine for merging two 
> whole brain datasets.
> jon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Douglas Greve" 
> To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:13:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] merging dti data
>
>
> Hi Jon, I don't know how to make this work, but I'm sure that those
> commands will not do it. Sorry:(
> doug
>
>
>
>
> On 4/10/13 1:13 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>> we captured some dti data. there were 2 runs. we acquired in the axial 
>> plane, 2mm slice thickness the first run captured the lower half of the 
>> brain, slice locations: I56-S20, and the second run captured the upper half 
>> of the brain S16-S92. i have made briks from each of these runs.
>> I can convert the briks to nifti files
>> I want to merge the nifti files together to analyze the data in tracula
>>
>> In the past i have merged data from two dti runs, but each run have covered 
>> the entire brain,  with the following commands
>>
>> mri_convert MJ0001dti1+orig.BRIK MJ0001dti1.nii.gz
>> mri_convert MJ0001dti2+orig.BRIK MJ0001dti2.nii.gz
>> mri_concat --i MJ0001dti1.nii.gz MJ0001dti2.nii.gz --o MJ0001dti12.nii.gz
>>
>>
>> would it work to concat the two half brain niftis into one file and analyze 
>> that with tracula?
>> (I will concat the bvec and bvals files too)
>> would this cause problems doing it this way?
>> Thanks
>> Jon
>>
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Re: [Freesurfer] merging dti data

2013-04-11 Thread Jon Wieser
Hi Doug
I can motion correct the briks with 3dvolreg
Jon
- Original Message -
From: "Douglas N Greve" 
To: "Jon Wieser" 
Cc: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 11:22:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] merging dti data

That might work. I think "motion" correction is going to be your biggest 
problem since the slabs were acquired at different times.

On 04/11/2013 11:05 AM, Jon Wieser wrote:
> the gradients were the same for each slab. What is the difficulty with 
> runnning the merged brain halves in tracula?
>
>
> I have another to do it that I am going to try.  I made AFNI Brik's of the 
> two slabs, and merged them together into one AFNI brik with the AFNI command 
> 3dZcat.   I made a nifti file from the merged afni brik.  i will try running 
> tracula on the merged nifti file.
>
> Jon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Douglas Greve" 
> To: "Jon Wieser" 
> Cc: "freesurfer" 
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:56:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] merging dti data
>
> yes, they work for whole brain, but not if you have two brain halves.
> You might be able to do something in matlab. I assume the gradient
> direction order was the same for both slabs?
> doug
>
>
>
>
> On 4/11/13 10:36 AM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>> Those commands were given to me by Anastasia.  they work fine for merging 
>> two whole brain datasets.
>> jon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Douglas Greve" 
>> To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:13:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] merging dti data
>>
>>
>> Hi Jon, I don't know how to make this work, but I'm sure that those
>> commands will not do it. Sorry:(
>> doug
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/10/13 1:13 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>> we captured some dti data. there were 2 runs. we acquired in the axial 
>>> plane, 2mm slice thickness the first run captured the lower half of the 
>>> brain, slice locations: I56-S20, and the second run captured the upper half 
>>> of the brain S16-S92. i have made briks from each of these runs.
>>> I can convert the briks to nifti files
>>> I want to merge the nifti files together to analyze the data in tracula
>>>
>>> In the past i have merged data from two dti runs, but each run have covered 
>>> the entire brain,  with the following commands
>>>
>>> mri_convert MJ0001dti1+orig.BRIK MJ0001dti1.nii.gz
>>> mri_convert MJ0001dti2+orig.BRIK MJ0001dti2.nii.gz
>>> mri_concat --i MJ0001dti1.nii.gz MJ0001dti2.nii.gz --o MJ0001dti12.nii.gz
>>>
>>>
>>> would it work to concat the two half brain niftis into one file and analyze 
>>> that with tracula?
>>> (I will concat the bvec and bvals files too)
>>> would this cause problems doing it this way?
>>> Thanks
>>> Jon
>>>
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Re: [Freesurfer] merging dti data

2013-04-23 Thread Jon Wieser
Hi Doug
we got good results with the dit of the merged brik's
Jon

- Original Message -
From: "Douglas N Greve" 
To: "Jon Wieser" 
Cc: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 11:22:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] merging dti data

That might work. I think "motion" correction is going to be your biggest 
problem since the slabs were acquired at different times.

On 04/11/2013 11:05 AM, Jon Wieser wrote:
> the gradients were the same for each slab. What is the difficulty with 
> runnning the merged brain halves in tracula?
>
>
> I have another to do it that I am going to try.  I made AFNI Brik's of the 
> two slabs, and merged them together into one AFNI brik with the AFNI command 
> 3dZcat.   I made a nifti file from the merged afni brik.  i will try running 
> tracula on the merged nifti file.
>
> Jon
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Douglas Greve" 
> To: "Jon Wieser" 
> Cc: "freesurfer" 
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:56:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] merging dti data
>
> yes, they work for whole brain, but not if you have two brain halves.
> You might be able to do something in matlab. I assume the gradient
> direction order was the same for both slabs?
> doug
>
>
>
>
> On 4/11/13 10:36 AM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>> Those commands were given to me by Anastasia.  they work fine for merging 
>> two whole brain datasets.
>> jon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Douglas Greve" 
>> To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:13:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] merging dti data
>>
>>
>> Hi Jon, I don't know how to make this work, but I'm sure that those
>> commands will not do it. Sorry:(
>> doug
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/10/13 1:13 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>> we captured some dti data. there were 2 runs. we acquired in the axial 
>>> plane, 2mm slice thickness the first run captured the lower half of the 
>>> brain, slice locations: I56-S20, and the second run captured the upper half 
>>> of the brain S16-S92. i have made briks from each of these runs.
>>> I can convert the briks to nifti files
>>> I want to merge the nifti files together to analyze the data in tracula
>>>
>>> In the past i have merged data from two dti runs, but each run have covered 
>>> the entire brain,  with the following commands
>>>
>>> mri_convert MJ0001dti1+orig.BRIK MJ0001dti1.nii.gz
>>> mri_convert MJ0001dti2+orig.BRIK MJ0001dti2.nii.gz
>>> mri_concat --i MJ0001dti1.nii.gz MJ0001dti2.nii.gz --o MJ0001dti12.nii.gz
>>>
>>>
>>> would it work to concat the two half brain niftis into one file and analyze 
>>> that with tracula?
>>> (I will concat the bvec and bvals files too)
>>> would this cause problems doing it this way?
>>> Thanks
>>> Jon
>>>
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[Freesurfer] convert phillips PAr/Rec files

2013-04-24 Thread Jon Wieser
dear FS experts

I have some PAR/REc format anatomical file from a Phillips scanner. I want to 
convert the to nifti or MGZ format for freesurfer.  how do I do this conversion
what program do I use?

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[Freesurfer] Qdec and GLM ROI analysis

2013-05-07 Thread Jon Wieser
I am interested ing doing a group surfaces analysis like that specified in: 
ftp.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/QdecGroupAnalysis,  or 
http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis?highlight=%28cortical%29%7C%28thickness%29

but I want to limit the analysis to a specific ROI.  how do i do this?

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Re: [Freesurfer] Restricting ROI Analysis

2013-05-13 Thread Jon Wieser
it there a way to mask the data before running the Qdec analysis on it?

- Original Message -
From: "Douglas Greve" 
To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 11:24:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Restricting ROI Analysis

Hi Skyler, I don't think we have the ability to restrict the analysis to 
an ROI in QDEC. You can do it with mri_glmfit with the --mask or --label 
option.
doug


On 5/12/13 4:25 PM, Skyler Gabriel Shollenbarger wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> We are trying to restrict an analysis using Qdec to a region of interest. We 
> have successfully created the ROI mask, however the analysis continues to be 
> run on the entire brain. Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Skyler and Jon
>

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[Freesurfer] tkmedit on ssh remote machine error

2013-05-30 Thread Jon Wieser

hi freesurfer folks

I'm  ssh'ing to from one MAc to another
X11 is on both machines
MAC OS X  10.6.8

When I start TKmedit with:  (freesurfer files are in the freesurfer directory)

tkmedit freesurfer  brainmask.mgz -aux T1.mgz


I get the errors:
Thu May 30 11:34:50 cerebrum.uwm.edu tkmedit.bin[78500] : 
kCGErrorIllegalArgument: _CGSFindSharedWindow: WID 349
Thu May 30 11:34:50 cerebrum.uwm.edu tkmedit.bin[78500] : 
kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as they 
are logged.
Thu May 30 11:34:50 cerebrum.uwm.edu tkmedit.bin[78500] : 
kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGSSetWindowSendExposed: Invalid window 0x15d
Thu May 30 11:34:50 cerebrum.uwm.edu tkmedit.bin[78500] : unknown error 
code: invalid drawable
error: xp_attach_gl_context returned: 2



tkmedit  GUI  opens and the image window opens, but the image  window is blank 
(white) ,  (no image of the brain)




i have set   X11forwarding  to yes in the /etc/sshd_config file
so xeyes works ok remotely
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Re: [Freesurfer] tkmedit on ssh remote machine error

2013-05-30 Thread Jon Wieser
both machines have Mac OS X 10.6.8

the tkmedit works fine when not logged in remotely
there is no error and the brain image is there
Jon

- Original Message -
From: "Z K" 
To: "Jon Wieser" 
Cc: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 12:16:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] tkmedit on ssh remote machine  error

Jon,

I have not seen or heard of this error before... are both machines Mac 
OSX 10.6.8? Also, will the same command will produce a brain image when 
not logged in remotely?

-Zeke

On 05/30/2013 12:43 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
>
> hi freesurfer folks
>
> I'm  ssh'ing to from one MAc to another
> X11 is on both machines
> MAC OS X  10.6.8
>
> When I start TKmedit with:  (freesurfer files are in the freesurfer directory)
>
> tkmedit freesurfer  brainmask.mgz -aux T1.mgz
>
>
> I get the errors:
> Thu May 30 11:34:50 cerebrum.uwm.edu tkmedit.bin[78500] : 
> kCGErrorIllegalArgument: _CGSFindSharedWindow: WID 349
> Thu May 30 11:34:50 cerebrum.uwm.edu tkmedit.bin[78500] : 
> kCGErrorFailure: Set a breakpoint @ CGErrorBreakpoint() to catch errors as 
> they are logged.
> Thu May 30 11:34:50 cerebrum.uwm.edu tkmedit.bin[78500] : 
> kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGSSetWindowSendExposed: Invalid window 0x15d
> Thu May 30 11:34:50 cerebrum.uwm.edu tkmedit.bin[78500] : unknown 
> error code: invalid drawable
> error: xp_attach_gl_context returned: 2
>
>
>
> tkmedit  GUI  opens and the image window opens, but the image  window is 
> blank (white) ,  (no image of the brain)
>
>
>
>
> i have set   X11forwarding  to yes in the /etc/sshd_config file
> so xeyes works ok remotely
> Jon
>
>
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Re: [Freesurfer] tkmedit on ssh remote machine error

2013-05-30 Thread Jon Wieser

yes,
I have ForwardX11Trusted yes in ssh_config
and I do ssh -Y

Jon
- Original Message -
From: "R Edgar" 
To: "Jon Wieser" 
Cc: "Z K" , "freesurfer" 

Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 3:26:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] tkmedit on ssh remote machine error

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Jon Wieser  wrote:
> both machines have Mac OS X 10.6.8
>
> the tkmedit works fine when not logged in remotely
> there is no error and the brain image is there

Did you do "ssh -Y" or have "ForwardX11Trusted yes" in your ssh.config?

Richard

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[Freesurfer] trac-all problem

2013-02-12 Thread Jon Wieser
fer/dmri/dwi_tmp0033
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0034
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0035
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0036
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0037
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0038
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0039
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0040
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0041
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0042
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0043
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0044
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0045
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0046
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0047
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0048
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0049
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0050
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0051
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0052
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0053
processing /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi_tmp0054
mv -f /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/bvecs 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/bvecs.norot
xfmrot /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi.ecclog 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/bvecs.norot 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/bvecs
fslroi /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi.nii.gz 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/lowb.nii.gz 0

Usage: fslroi
   fslroi

   fslroi 
 
Note: indexing (in both time and space) starts with 0 not 1!
Darwin psy-cerebellum.uits.uwm.edu 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun 
 7 16:32:41 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64

trac-preproc exited with ERRORS at Mon Feb 11 13:25:16 CST 2013


can you tell me how to fix this?
Thanks
Jon Wieser
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[Freesurfer] running freesurfer on multi core machine

2013-02-14 Thread Jon Wieser
Hi,
I am runnning fressurfer on a Mac with 23.06 Ghz 6-core intel Xeon 
processors.  is it possible to run recon-all and trac-all on multiple cores.
Jon
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[Freesurfer] Fwd: trac-all problem

2013-02-18 Thread Jon Wieser
ation: 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/xfms/diff2mni.flt.mat
Number of burn-in samples: 200
Number of post-burn-in samples: 5000
Keep every: 5-th sample
Update proposal every: 0-th sample
Loading spline control points from 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dlabel/diff/lh.cst_AS_avg23_mni_flt_cpts_5.txt
Loading spline mask from 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dlabel/diff/aparc+aseg_mask.bbr.nii.gz
Creating output directory 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dpath/5cpts/priormni/seg14/initmni/regflt/lh.cst_AS_avg23_mni_flt
Loading DWIs from /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi.nii.gz
Loading mask from 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dlabel/diff/aparc+aseg_mask.bbr.nii.gz
Loading BEDPOST parameter samples from 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri.bedpostX
dmri_paths(38479) malloc: *** mmap(size=262144) failed (error code=12)
*** error: can't allocate region
*** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
MRIalloc(256, 256, 60): could not allocate 262144 bytes for 1193th slice

Cannot allocate memory
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trac-paths exited with ERRORS at Mon Feb 18 09:14:48 CST 2013




how can I fix this?
Jon




- Original Message -
From: "Anastasia Yendiki" 
To: "Jon Wieser" 
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 1:22:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] trac-all problem


Great!

On Thu, 14 Feb 2013, Jon Wieser wrote:

> Hi Anastasia,
>
> update on my processing.
> I finished recon-all -autorecon1 ,-autorecon2, and  -autorecon3 .
> I finished  trac -prep  with No errors!
> moving on the Trac-all -bedp
>
>
> thanks!
> Jon
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Anastasia Yendiki" 
> To: "Jon Wieser" 
> Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:44:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] trac-all problem
>
>
> Hi Jon - You'll the aparc+aseg.mgz (cortical parcellation + subcortical
> segmentation). The basis of TRACULA is that it uses the underlying anatomy
> to reconstruct the tracts.
>
> a.y
>
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2013, Jon Wieser wrote:
>
>> no i have not run recon-all yet on this dataset,
>> do i need to run recon-all  with -autorecon1 ,-autorecon2, and  -autorecon3  
>> before i analyze the dti data?
>>
>> thanks
>> Jon
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Anastasia Yendiki" 
>> To: "Jon Wieser" 
>> Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:34:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] trac-all problem
>>
>>
>> Hi Jon - Have you run freesurfer (recon-all) on your T1 data?
>>
>> a.y
>>
>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2013, Jon Wieser wrote:
>>
>>> i got past the problem with the bvesc, and bvals,
>>>
>>>
>>> my current output has a new problem:
>>> here's the last part of the output.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> #@# Tensor fit Tue Feb 12 15:24:51 CST 2013
>>> dtifit -k /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dwi.nii.gz -m 
>>> /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dlabel/diff/lowb_brain_mask.nii.gz -r 
>>> /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/bvecs -b 
>>> /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/bvals -o 
>>> /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/dmri/dtifit
>>> 0 256 0 256 0 60
>>> 0 slices processed
>>> 1 slices processed
>>> 2 slices processed
>>> 3 slices processed
>>> 4 slices processed
>>> 5 slices processed
>>> 6 slices processed
>>> 7 slices processed
>>> 8 slices processed
>>> 9 slices processed
>>> 10 slices processed
>>> 11 slices processed
>>> 12 slices processed
>>> 13 slices processed
>>> 14 slices processed
>>> 15 slices processed
>>> 16 slices processed
>>> 17 slices processed
>>> 18 slices processed
>>> 19 slices processed
>>> 20 slices processed
>>> 21 slices processed
>>> 22 slices processed
>>> 23 slices processed
>>> 24 slices processed
>>> 25 slices processed
>>> 26 slices processed
>>> 27 slices processed
>>> 28 slices processed
>>> 29 slices processed
>>> 30 slices processed
>>> 31 slices processed
>>> 32 slices processed
>>> 33 slices processed
>>> 34 slices processed
>>> 35 slices processed
>>> 36 slices processed
>>> 37 slices processed
>>> 38 slices processed
>>> 39 slices processed
>>> 40 slices processed
>>> 41 slices processed
&

[Freesurfer] problem with trac-all -prep proc stage

2013-02-26 Thread Jon Wieser
hello

i ran a trac-all -prep -c ./dmrirc_single_subject   and got the following error:


flirt -in 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/brain_anat.nii.gz
 -ref /usr/local/fsl/data/standard/MNI152_T1_1mm_brain.nii.gz -out 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/brain_anat_mni.nii.gz
 -omat 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/anat2mni.mat
 -cost mutualinfo
convert_xfm -omat 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/mni2anat.mat
 -inverse 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/anat2mni.mat
convert_xfm -omat 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/diff2mni.flt.mat
 -concat 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/anat2mni.mat
 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/diff2anat.flt.mat
convert_xfm -omat 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/mni2diff.flt.mat
 -inverse 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/diff2mni.flt.mat
convert_xfm -omat 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/diff2mni.bbr.mat
 -concat 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/anat2mni.mat
 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/diff2anat.bbr.mat
convert_xfm -omat 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/mni2diff.bbr.mat
 -inverse 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/diff2mni.bbr.mat
convert_xfm -omat 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/anatorig2mni.mat
 -concat 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/anat2mni.mat
 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/anatorig2anat.mat
convert_xfm -omat 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/mni2anatorig.mat
 -inverse 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/anatorig2mni.mat
ln -sfn 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191/freesurfer/cvs/cvs_avg35
 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/cvs
mri_cvs_register --mov freesurfer --template cvs_avg35 --outdir 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/cvs

Log file is freesurfer_to_cvs_avg35.mri_cvs_register.1302261152.log

Tue Feb 26 11:52:22 CST 2013
--mov freesurfer --template cvs_avg35 --outdir 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/cvs
$Id: mri_cvs_register,v 1.4.2.2 2010/08/11 17:52:00 nicks Exp $
cerebrum.uits.uwm.edu
Darwin cerebrum.uits.uwm.edu 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun  7 
16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386
The outdir:
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/cvs
mris_resample --atlas_reg 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191/cvs_avg35/surf/lh.sphere
 --annot 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191/freesurfer/label/lh.aparc.annot
 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/cvs/lh.resample.aparc.annot
 --subject_surf 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191/freesurfer/surf/lh.white
 --subject_reg 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191/freesurfer/surf/lh.cvs.tocvs_avg35.sphere.reg
 --out 
/BrainLabDocs/Studies/Alcohol_Study/Alc_Data_Faces/1191//freesurfer/dmri/xfms/cvs/lh.resample.white
Exception caught while parsing cmd-line 
ambiguous option annot
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16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386

trac-preproc exited with ERRORS at Tue Feb 26 11:52:22 CST 2013



Jon

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[Freesurfer] processing 2 dti's from 1 experiment

2013-03-04 Thread Jon Wieser
hello,

we have acquired dti scans  on a subject during a FMRI experiment.  is it 
possible to process both dti's with tracule to get an average of the 2 dti's?
If so, how do I setup the config file for this?
Thanks
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Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer

2013-03-07 Thread Jon Wieser
Hi Nicole,
It looks like recon-all -autorecon2  had trouble segmenting the gray/white 
matter.  you can try using 3duniformize to make the gray,white matter more 
uniform, before doing the freesurfes recon-all.  you can also try  
skullstrippong in afni  with 3dskullstrip first, before freesurfer processing. 
I have attached script files for the uniformize and skullstrip. if this does 
not fix it, I can come to help you, or you can e-mail the problem to  the 
freesurfer  people at freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu  . They are very helpful 
and will response relatively quickly.
Jon


- Original Message -
From: "Nicole T Nowak-Saenz" 
To: "Jon Alan Wieser" 
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 12:35:57 PM
Subject: Freesurfer

Hi Jon,
I think you mentioned working with Freesurfer. Have you ever seen anything like 
this? I'm hoping the problems with segmentation, and white/pial lines are due 
to the recon-all somehow leaving out half the brain (e.g., temporal lobes). To 
me it looks like half the brain is missing, yet some skull remains. I have a 
feeling this will require more than adjusting a watershed parameter. Any clue 
how these errors occured or what to do about them?

I should mention I had to use a flag which was provided in the failed recon-all 
log to correct an error like this one: DICOM WARNING: file 00020002.dcm has 
Rescale tags.

If this is something you know something about and have a few minutes to 
address, I would appreciate it. If not, I completely understand. 

Nicole

@skullstrip
Description: Binary data


@uniformize
Description: Binary data
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[Freesurfer] LGI

2013-03-18 Thread Jon Wieser
i am trying to computer the LGI local gyrification index with freesurfer. I 
have Matlab on my machine.
I got the following error:


recon-all -s freesurfer -localGI
Subject Stamp: freesurfer-Darwin-leopard-i686-stable-pub-v5.1.0
Current Stamp: freesurfer-Darwin-leopard-i686-stable-pub-v5.1.0
INFO: SUBJECTS_DIR is /Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012
Actual FREESURFER_HOME /Applications/freesurfer
-rw-rw-r--  1 wieser  admin  506264 Mar 18 12:37 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/scripts/recon-all.log
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 7 16:32:41 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/surf
#
#@# Local Gyrification Index lh Mon Mar 18 12:43:04 CDT 2013
\n mris_compute_lgi --i lh.pial \n
ERROR: Matlab is required to run mris_compute_lgi!
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recon-all -s freesurfer exited with ERRORS at Mon Mar 18 12:43:04 CDT 2013

For more details, see the log file 
/Studies/MJMRI/MJ0012/freesurfer/scripts/recon-all.log
To report a problem, see http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/BugReporting



JOn

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[Freesurfer] LGI qdec analysis on longitiudinal data

2014-05-19 Thread Jon Wieser
Hi freesurfer experts

I am trying to analyze the longitudinal effects on LGI.   I've run all my 
subject's through the longitudinal processing stream.

I set-up my qdec dat file:

fsidfsid-base   years
100674-0107 100674_base 1.6
100674-0408 100674_base 2.8
100674-0605 100674_base 0
100712-0505 100712_base 0
100712-0708 100712_base 3.2
100712-1006 100712_base 1.4
100724-0605 100724_base 0
100724-0808 100724_base 3.2
100724-1206 100724_base 1.5
100733-0106 100733_base 0
100733-0507 100733_base 1.3
100733-1008 100733_base 2.8

I ran long_mris_slopse for both hemispheres:

long_mris_slopes --qdec ./UCSD_subj_NIDA_LGI.qdec.dat --meas pial_lgi --hemi lh 
--do-avg --do-rate --do-pc1 --do-spc --do-stack --do-label --time years 
--qcache fsaverage --sd /Studies/UCSDsubjects-NIDA/Cluster_Proc

long_mris_slopes --qdec ./UCSD_subj_NIDA_LGI.qdec.dat --meas pial_lgi --hemi rh 
--do-avg --do-rate --do-pc1 --do-spc --do-stack --do-label --time years 
--qcache fsaverage --sd /Studies/UCSDsubjects-NIDA/Cluster_Proc

i also ran long_qdec_table

long_qdec_table --qdec ./UCSD_subj_NIDA_LGI.qdec.dat --cross --out 
./qdec/cross.qdec.table.dat


then I ran qdec:

qdec --table ./qdec/cross.qdec.table.dat

I specified pial_lgi as the Measure, and selected years as the covariate
when I press Analyze, I get the following error:
Error in Analyze: Couldn't open 
100674_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgz or mgh file



when looking in the directories, I have lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  files 
in the  100674-0107.long.100674_base directories:

\100674-0107.long.100674_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
100724-0605.long.100724_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100674-0107.long.100674_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
100724-0605.long.100724_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100674-0408.long.100674_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
100724-0808.long.100724_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100674-0408.long.100674_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
100724-0808.long.100724_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100674-0605.long.100674_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
100724-1206.long.100724_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100674-0605.long.100674_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
100724-1206.long.100724_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100712-0505.long.100712_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
100733-0106.long.100733_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100712-0505.long.100712_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
100733-0106.long.100733_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100712-0708.long.100712_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
100733-0507.long.100733_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100712-0708.long.100712_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
100733-0507.long.100733_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100712-1006.long.100712_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
100733-1008.long.100733_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100712-1006.long.100712_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
100733-1008.long.100733_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh


but not in the following directories
100674_base/surf
100712_base/surf
100724_base/surf
100733_base/surf


How can I fix this?

Jon

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[Freesurfer] Fwd: LGI qdec analysis on longitiudinal data

2014-05-19 Thread Jon Wieser

I added the following lines to the .Qdecrc file in my home directory

MEASURE1 = long.pial_lgi-avg
MEASURE2 = long.pial_lgi-rate
MEASURE3 = long.pial_lgi-pc1
MEASURE4 = long.pial_lgi-spc


qdec's   Analyze is working now.

what specifically do :( long.pial_lgi-avg,  long.pial_lgi-rate,  
long.pial_lgi-pc1,  long.pial_lgi-spc )  measure regarding the LGI ?


Jon

- Forwarded Message -
From: "Jon Wieser" 
To: "freesurfer" 
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 2:53:43 PM
Subject: [Freesurfer] LGI  qdec analysis on longitiudinal data

Hi freesurfer experts

I am trying to analyze the longitudinal effects on LGI.   I've run all my 
subject's through the longitudinal processing stream.

I set-up my qdec dat file:

fsidfsid-base   years
100674-0107 100674_base 1.6
100674-0408 100674_base 2.8
100674-0605 100674_base 0
100712-0505 100712_base 0
100712-0708 100712_base 3.2
100712-1006 100712_base 1.4
100724-0605 100724_base 0
100724-0808 100724_base 3.2
100724-1206 100724_base 1.5
100733-0106 100733_base 0
100733-0507 100733_base 1.3
100733-1008 100733_base 2.8

I ran long_mris_slopse for both hemispheres:

long_mris_slopes --qdec ./UCSD_subj_NIDA_LGI.qdec.dat --meas pial_lgi --hemi lh 
--do-avg --do-rate --do-pc1 --do-spc --do-stack --do-label --time years 
--qcache fsaverage --sd /Studies/UCSDsubjects-NIDA/Cluster_Proc

long_mris_slopes --qdec ./UCSD_subj_NIDA_LGI.qdec.dat --meas pial_lgi --hemi rh 
--do-avg --do-rate --do-pc1 --do-spc --do-stack --do-label --time years 
--qcache fsaverage --sd /Studies/UCSDsubjects-NIDA/Cluster_Proc

i also ran long_qdec_table

long_qdec_table --qdec ./UCSD_subj_NIDA_LGI.qdec.dat --cross --out 
./qdec/cross.qdec.table.dat


then I ran qdec:

qdec --table ./qdec/cross.qdec.table.dat

I specified pial_lgi as the Measure, and selected years as the covariate
when I press Analyze, I get the following error:
Error in Analyze: Couldn't open 
100674_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgz or mgh file



when looking in the directories, I have lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  files 
in the  100674-0107.long.100674_base directories:

\100674-0107.long.100674_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
100724-0605.long.100724_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100674-0107.long.100674_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
100724-0605.long.100724_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100674-0408.long.100674_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
100724-0808.long.100724_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100674-0408.long.100674_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
100724-0808.long.100724_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100674-0605.long.100674_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
100724-1206.long.100724_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100674-0605.long.100674_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
100724-1206.long.100724_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100712-0505.long.100712_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
100733-0106.long.100733_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100712-0505.long.100712_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
100733-0106.long.100733_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100712-0708.long.100712_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
100733-0507.long.100733_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100712-0708.long.100712_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
100733-0507.long.100733_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100712-1006.long.100712_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
100733-1008.long.100733_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
100712-1006.long.100712_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
100733-1008.long.100733_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh


but not in the following directories
100674_base/surf
100712_base/surf
100724_base/surf
100733_base/surf


How can I fix this?

Jon

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Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd: LGI qdec analysis on longitiudinal data

2014-05-19 Thread Jon Wieser
Thanks, Martin for the info. We are studying the effect of drug usage on LGI  
over time
Jon

- Original Message -
From: "Martin Reuter" 
To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 3:30:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Fwd:  LGI  qdec analysis on longitiudinal data

Just saw that you already found those settings.

these measures are the vertex wise results from the first level analysis 
on the (smoothed) LGI data.
avg: average lgi at that location across time (within each subject).
rate: the change of lgi per time unit (years).
pc1: the percent change with respect to the first time point
spc: symmetrized percent change (rate with respect to the average)

if any of this is meaningful for LGI, I don't know, you were the one 
trying to do this analysis ;-).

Best, Martin


On 05/19/2014 04:20 PM, Jon Wieser wrote:
> I added the following lines to the .Qdecrc file in my home directory
>
> MEASURE1 = long.pial_lgi-avg
> MEASURE2 = long.pial_lgi-rate
> MEASURE3 = long.pial_lgi-pc1
> MEASURE4 = long.pial_lgi-spc
>
>
> qdec's   Analyze is working now.
>
> what specifically do :( long.pial_lgi-avg,  long.pial_lgi-rate,  
> long.pial_lgi-pc1,  long.pial_lgi-spc )  measure regarding the LGI ?
>
>
> Jon
>
> - Forwarded Message -
> From: "Jon Wieser" 
> To: "freesurfer" 
> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 2:53:43 PM
> Subject: [Freesurfer] LGI  qdec analysis on longitiudinal data
>
> Hi freesurfer experts
>
> I am trying to analyze the longitudinal effects on LGI.   I've run all my 
> subject's through the longitudinal processing stream.
>
> I set-up my qdec dat file:
>
> fsid  fsid-base   years
> 100674-0107   100674_base 1.6
> 100674-0408   100674_base 2.8
> 100674-0605   100674_base 0
> 100712-0505   100712_base 0
> 100712-0708   100712_base 3.2
> 100712-1006   100712_base 1.4
> 100724-0605   100724_base 0
> 100724-0808   100724_base 3.2
> 100724-1206   100724_base 1.5
> 100733-0106   100733_base 0
> 100733-0507   100733_base 1.3
> 100733-1008   100733_base 2.8
>
> I ran long_mris_slopse for both hemispheres:
>
> long_mris_slopes --qdec ./UCSD_subj_NIDA_LGI.qdec.dat --meas pial_lgi --hemi 
> lh --do-avg --do-rate --do-pc1 --do-spc --do-stack --do-label --time years 
> --qcache fsaverage --sd /Studies/UCSDsubjects-NIDA/Cluster_Proc
>
> long_mris_slopes --qdec ./UCSD_subj_NIDA_LGI.qdec.dat --meas pial_lgi --hemi 
> rh --do-avg --do-rate --do-pc1 --do-spc --do-stack --do-label --time years 
> --qcache fsaverage --sd /Studies/UCSDsubjects-NIDA/Cluster_Proc
>
> i also ran long_qdec_table
>
> long_qdec_table --qdec ./UCSD_subj_NIDA_LGI.qdec.dat --cross --out 
> ./qdec/cross.qdec.table.dat
>
>
> then I ran qdec:
>
> qdec --table ./qdec/cross.qdec.table.dat
>
> I specified pial_lgi as the Measure, and selected years as the covariate
> when I press Analyze, I get the following error:
> Error in Analyze: Couldn't open 
> 100674_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgz or mgh file
>
>
>
> when looking in the directories, I have lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
> files in the  100674-0107.long.100674_base directories:
>
> \100674-0107.long.100674_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
> 100724-0605.long.100724_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
> 100674-0107.long.100674_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
> 100724-0605.long.100724_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
> 100674-0408.long.100674_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
> 100724-0808.long.100724_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
> 100674-0408.long.100674_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
> 100724-0808.long.100724_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
> 100674-0605.long.100674_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
> 100724-1206.long.100724_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
> 100674-0605.long.100674_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
> 100724-1206.long.100724_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
> 100712-0505.long.100712_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
> 100733-0106.long.100733_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
> 100712-0505.long.100712_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
> 100733-0106.long.100733_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
> 100712-0708.long.100712_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
> 100733-0507.long.100733_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
> 100712-0708.long.100712_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh  
> 100733-0507.long.100733_base/surf/rh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh
> 100712-1006.long.100712_base/surf/lh.pial_lgi.fwhm10.fsaverage.mgh 

[Freesurfer] ERROR: dimension mismatch between input volume and seg

2014-07-21 Thread Jon Wieser
hi freesurfer experts

I am compiling the FA segment stats for several subject

I used
 mri_vol2vol --mov fa.nii --reg register.dat --fstarg ../mri/orig.mgz --interp 
nearest --o fa.anat.mgh

then I used:

 mri_segstats --seg mri/wmparc.mgz --ctab 
$FREESURFER_HOME/FreeSurferColorLUT.txt --i dti/fa.anat.mgh --sum dti/fa.stats


for some of my subjects, Iam getting the following error: 



 mri_segstats --seg mri/wmparc.mgz --ctab 
$FREESURFER_HOME/FreeSurferColorLUT.txt --i dti/fa.anat.mgh --sum dti/fa.stat

$Id: mri_segstats.c,v 1.75.2.9 2013/02/16 00:09:33 greve Exp $
cwd 
cmdline mri_segstats --seg mri/wmparc.mgz --ctab 
/Applications/freesurfer/FreeSurferColorLUT.txt --i dti/fa.anat.mgh --sum 
dti/fa.stat 
sysname  Darwin
hostname psy-blackbird.ad.uwm.edu
machine  x86_64
user wieser
UseRobust  0
Loading mri/wmparc.mgz
Loading dti/fa.anat.mgh
ERROR: dimension mismatch between input volume and seg
  input 256 256 192
  seg   256 256 256



can you tell me how to fix this?

thanks
Jon


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UW-Milwaukee
Psychology Department, Pearse Hall Rm 366
2441 East Hartford Ave
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Fax: 414-229-5219
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