Re: [Freesurfer] help with mris_ca_label

2005-11-02 Thread Sasha Wolosin
is that *_trans_toSulc.gcs or *.atlas2002_simple.gcs?

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>>> "Brian T. Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/01/05 7:38 PM >>>
canonical surface refers to *.sphere.reg (found in
$SUBJECTS_DIR/$s/surf)
classifier is *.gcs (found in $FREESURFER_HOME/average)


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> Dear all,
>  In calling mris_ca_label, what does 'canonical surface' and
> 'classifier' refer to?
> Thanks,
> Sasha
>
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Re: [Freesurfer] help with mris_ca_label

2005-11-02 Thread Bruce Fischl

*.atlas2002_simple.gcs

is Christophe's atlas that we used before the current dev version.

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005, Sasha Wolosin wrote:


is that *_trans_toSulc.gcs or *.atlas2002_simple.gcs?

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"Brian T. Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/01/05 7:38 PM >>>

canonical surface refers to *.sphere.reg (found in
$SUBJECTS_DIR/$s/surf)
classifier is *.gcs (found in $FREESURFER_HOME/average)


On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Sasha Wolosin wrote:


Dear all,
 In calling mris_ca_label, what does 'canonical surface' and
'classifier' refer to?
Thanks,
Sasha

Sasha Wolosin
Research Assistant
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707 N. Broadway
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[Freesurfer] subcortical segmentation

2005-11-02 Thread Eliezer Kahn
Hi,
As mentioned in a previous message, running the subcortical segmentation 
takes 10-15 hours, primarily because of the Cannonical Registration 
(mri_ca_register) step. However, one the freesurfer papers (Whole Brain 
Segmentation: Automated Labeling of Neuroanatomical Structures in the 
Human Brain) states on the very first page that it takes only 30 minutes 
to label the brain. How essential is the Cannonical Registration part? Can 
one leave it out and still get a good subcortical segmentation?
Thanks,
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Re: [Freesurfer] subcortical segmentation

2005-11-02 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Eli,

no, I wouldn't. After that paper we developed a nonlinear registration 
procedure, which is the long one, that helps things considerably.


cheers,
Bruce


On Wed, 2 Nov 2005, Eliezer Kahn wrote:


Hi,
As mentioned in a previous message, running the subcortical segmentation
takes 10-15 hours, primarily because of the Cannonical Registration
(mri_ca_register) step. However, one the freesurfer papers (Whole Brain
Segmentation: Automated Labeling of Neuroanatomical Structures in the
Human Brain) states on the very first page that it takes only 30 minutes
to label the brain. How essential is the Cannonical Registration part? Can
one leave it out and still get a good subcortical segmentation?
Thanks,
Eli


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[Freesurfer] area file

2005-11-02 Thread Marie Schaer


Hello everybody!

I have one question about how surface areas are calculated by mris_anatomical
stats (release2004). 
I noticed that the ?h.area file may contain the portion of area corresponding to
each different vertex. Actually, the sum of all these areas is around 7'500mm^2
for one hemisphere, which is approximately (but not exactely) the result given
by mris_anatomical_stats. However, when I converted the pial surface in matlab,
and calculated the sum of the area of each triangle using the following equation
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/TriangleArea.html, I obtained a very higher result
(~10'000mm^2). Perhaps because the triangles are too big to calculate an
accurate area at this stage?
 
So my question was, on which basis is calculated the information contained in
lh.area? Does the first row of ?h.area correspond to the piece of area
attributable to the first vertice, and so on?

Thank you very much for your response!

Marie Schaer



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Re: [Freesurfer] area file

2005-11-02 Thread Doug Greve


We found a problem with this computation about a year ago (11/12/2004 to 
be specific). I think I sent an email about it to the list. Any releases 
prior to that date will have this error in the area computations. Can 
you try it with a more recent release?




Marie Schaer wrote:


Hello everybody!

I have one question about how surface areas are calculated by mris_anatomical
stats (release2004). 
I noticed that the ?h.area file may contain the portion of area corresponding to

each different vertex. Actually, the sum of all these areas is around 7'500mm^2
for one hemisphere, which is approximately (but not exactely) the result given
by mris_anatomical_stats. However, when I converted the pial surface in matlab,
and calculated the sum of the area of each triangle using the following equation
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/TriangleArea.html, I obtained a very higher result
(~10'000mm^2). Perhaps because the triangles are too big to calculate an
accurate area at this stage?

So my question was, on which basis is calculated the information contained in
lh.area? Does the first row of ?h.area correspond to the piece of area
attributable to the first vertice, and so on?

Thank you very much for your response!

Marie Schaer



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Re: [Freesurfer] area file

2005-11-02 Thread Marie Schaer


I tried with mris_anatomical_stats from freesurfer-Linux-rh9-v2.1 and I obtained
exactly the same result for total surface area as in matlab with the sum of all
the triangles, thanks for the advice!

In the mean time I was just wondering how folding index returned by
mris_anatomical_stats is calculated?

Thank you!

Marie Schaer


Quoting Doug Greve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> We found a problem with this computation about a year ago (11/12/2004 to 
> be specific). I think I sent an email about it to the list. Any releases 
> prior to that date will have this error in the area computations. Can 
> you try it with a more recent release?
> 
> 
> 
> Marie Schaer wrote:
> 
> >Hello everybody!
> >
> >I have one question about how surface areas are calculated by
> mris_anatomical
> >stats (release2004). 
> >I noticed that the ?h.area file may contain the portion of area
> corresponding to
> >each different vertex. Actually, the sum of all these areas is around
> 7'500mm^2
> >for one hemisphere, which is approximately (but not exactely) the result
> given
> >by mris_anatomical_stats. However, when I converted the pial surface in
> matlab,
> >and calculated the sum of the area of each triangle using the following
> equation
> >http://mathworld.wolfram.com/TriangleArea.html, I obtained a very higher
> result
> >(~10'000mm^2). Perhaps because the triangles are too big to calculate an
> >accurate area at this stage?
> > 
> >So my question was, on which basis is calculated the information contained
> in
> >lh.area? Does the first row of ?h.area correspond to the piece of area
> >attributable to the first vertice, and so on?
> >
> >Thank you very much for your response!
> >
> >Marie Schaer
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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Re: [Freesurfer] help with mris_ca_label

2005-11-02 Thread Sasha Wolosin
I'm having trouble specifying the output file when running
mris_ca_label- should it be in the surf folder or somewhere else?
(output below)
Thanks,
Sasha

[EMAIL PROTECTED] surf]$ pwd
/home/wolosin/subjects/dec1877J_prac/surf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] surf]$ mris_ca_label dec1877J_prac rh rh.sphere.reg
/freesurfer/ average/rh.atlas2002_simple.gcs rh.aparc.annot
reading atlas from /freesurfer/average/rh.atlas2002_simple.gcs...
reading color table from GCSA file
input 1: CURVATURE FILE, flags 0, avgs 0, name sulc
input 0: MEAN CURVATURE, flags 0, avgs 5, name mean_curvature
labeling surface...
relabeling using gibbs priors...
000:   9230 changed, 125897 examined...
001:   2224 changed, 34779 examined...
002:681 changed, 11344 examined...
003:275 changed, 3817 examined...
004:160 changed, 1602 examined...
005: 76 changed, 937 examined...
006: 31 changed, 434 examined...
007: 18 changed, 193 examined...
008: 15 changed, 103 examined...
009:  7 changed, 86 examined...
010:  2 changed, 46 examined...
011:  3 changed, 16 examined...
012:  0 changed, 10 examined...
000: 286 total segments, 189 labels (2604 vertices) changed
001: 107 total segments, 12 labels (195 vertices) changed
002: 95 total segments, 0 labels (0 vertices) changed
10 filter iterations complete (10 requested, 121 changed)
writing output to rh.aparc.annot...
could not write annot file
/home/wolosin/subjects/dec1877J_prac/surf/../label/rh .aparc.annot
No such file or directory
mris_ca_label: could not write annot file rh.aparc.annot for
dec1877J_prac
No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED] surf]$

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Re: [Freesurfer] help with mris_ca_label

2005-11-02 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Sasha,

it gets written into the label dir by default. Are you sure that 
directory exists (should be at the same level as surf)


Bruce
On Wed, 2 Nov 2005, 
Sasha Wolosin wrote:



I'm having trouble specifying the output file when running
mris_ca_label- should it be in the surf folder or somewhere else?
(output below)
Thanks,
Sasha

[EMAIL PROTECTED] surf]$ pwd
/home/wolosin/subjects/dec1877J_prac/surf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] surf]$ mris_ca_label dec1877J_prac rh rh.sphere.reg
/freesurfer/ average/rh.atlas2002_simple.gcs rh.aparc.annot
reading atlas from /freesurfer/average/rh.atlas2002_simple.gcs...
reading color table from GCSA file
input 1: CURVATURE FILE, flags 0, avgs 0, name sulc
input 0: MEAN CURVATURE, flags 0, avgs 5, name mean_curvature
labeling surface...
relabeling using gibbs priors...
000:   9230 changed, 125897 examined...
001:   2224 changed, 34779 examined...
002:681 changed, 11344 examined...
003:275 changed, 3817 examined...
004:160 changed, 1602 examined...
005: 76 changed, 937 examined...
006: 31 changed, 434 examined...
007: 18 changed, 193 examined...
008: 15 changed, 103 examined...
009:  7 changed, 86 examined...
010:  2 changed, 46 examined...
011:  3 changed, 16 examined...
012:  0 changed, 10 examined...
000: 286 total segments, 189 labels (2604 vertices) changed
001: 107 total segments, 12 labels (195 vertices) changed
002: 95 total segments, 0 labels (0 vertices) changed
10 filter iterations complete (10 requested, 121 changed)
writing output to rh.aparc.annot...
could not write annot file
/home/wolosin/subjects/dec1877J_prac/surf/../label/rh .aparc.annot
No such file or directory
mris_ca_label: could not write annot file rh.aparc.annot for
dec1877J_prac
No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED] surf]$

Sasha Wolosin
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Re: [Freesurfer] area file

2005-11-02 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Marie,

the folding indices are taken from one of the original Van Essen and Drury 
papers. Sorry I don't have the ref handy.


Bruce

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005, Marie Schaer wrote:




I tried with mris_anatomical_stats from freesurfer-Linux-rh9-v2.1 and I obtained
exactly the same result for total surface area as in matlab with the sum of all
the triangles, thanks for the advice!

In the mean time I was just wondering how folding index returned by
mris_anatomical_stats is calculated?

Thank you!

Marie Schaer


Quoting Doug Greve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



We found a problem with this computation about a year ago (11/12/2004 to
be specific). I think I sent an email about it to the list. Any releases
prior to that date will have this error in the area computations. Can
you try it with a more recent release?



Marie Schaer wrote:


Hello everybody!

I have one question about how surface areas are calculated by

mris_anatomical

stats (release2004).
I noticed that the ?h.area file may contain the portion of area

corresponding to

each different vertex. Actually, the sum of all these areas is around

7'500mm^2

for one hemisphere, which is approximately (but not exactely) the result

given

by mris_anatomical_stats. However, when I converted the pial surface in

matlab,

and calculated the sum of the area of each triangle using the following

equation

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/TriangleArea.html, I obtained a very higher

result

(~10'000mm^2). Perhaps because the triangles are too big to calculate an
accurate area at this stage?

So my question was, on which basis is calculated the information contained

in

lh.area? Does the first row of ?h.area correspond to the piece of area
attributable to the first vertice, and so on?

Thank you very much for your response!

Marie Schaer



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Re: [Freesurfer] area file

2005-11-02 Thread Marie Schaer

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=9278543&query_hl=1

I got it, thank you very much!

Marie

Quoting Bruce Fischl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi Marie,
> 
> the folding indices are taken from one of the original Van Essen and Drury 
> papers. Sorry I don't have the ref handy.
> 
> Bruce
> 
> On Wed, 2 Nov 2005, Marie Schaer wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > I tried with mris_anatomical_stats from freesurfer-Linux-rh9-v2.1 and I
> obtained
> > exactly the same result for total surface area as in matlab with the sum of
> all
> > the triangles, thanks for the advice!
> >
> > In the mean time I was just wondering how folding index returned by
> > mris_anatomical_stats is calculated?
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > Marie Schaer
> >
> >
> > Quoting Doug Greve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >>
> >> We found a problem with this computation about a year ago (11/12/2004 to
> >> be specific). I think I sent an email about it to the list. Any releases
> >> prior to that date will have this error in the area computations. Can
> >> you try it with a more recent release?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Marie Schaer wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello everybody!
> >>>
> >>> I have one question about how surface areas are calculated by
> >> mris_anatomical
> >>> stats (release2004).
> >>> I noticed that the ?h.area file may contain the portion of area
> >> corresponding to
> >>> each different vertex. Actually, the sum of all these areas is around
> >> 7'500mm^2
> >>> for one hemisphere, which is approximately (but not exactely) the result
> >> given
> >>> by mris_anatomical_stats. However, when I converted the pial surface in
> >> matlab,
> >>> and calculated the sum of the area of each triangle using the following
> >> equation
> >>> http://mathworld.wolfram.com/TriangleArea.html, I obtained a very higher
> >> result
> >>> (~10'000mm^2). Perhaps because the triangles are too big to calculate an
> >>> accurate area at this stage?
> >>>
> >>> So my question was, on which basis is calculated the information
> contained
> >> in
> >>> lh.area? Does the first row of ?h.area correspond to the piece of area
> >>> attributable to the first vertice, and so on?
> >>>
> >>> Thank you very much for your response!
> >>>
> >>> Marie Schaer
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [Freesurfer] help with mris_ca_label

2005-11-02 Thread Sasha Wolosin
thanks, I created a label directory and that solved the problem.  It
looks like all our subjects are missing a label directory.  Do you know
why that might happen?

Sasha Wolosin
Research Assistant
Developmental Cognitive Neurology
Kennedy Krieger Institute
707 N. Broadway
Baltimore, MD 21205
ph: (443) 923-9270
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>>> Bruce Fischl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/02/05 1:46 PM >>>
Hi Sasha,

it gets written into the label dir by default. Are you sure that 
directory exists (should be at the same level as surf)

Bruce
On Wed, 2 Nov 2005, 
Sasha Wolosin wrote:

> I'm having trouble specifying the output file when running
> mris_ca_label- should it be in the surf folder or somewhere else?
> (output below)
> Thanks,
> Sasha
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] surf]$ pwd
> /home/wolosin/subjects/dec1877J_prac/surf
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] surf]$ mris_ca_label dec1877J_prac rh rh.sphere.reg
> /freesurfer/ average/rh.atlas2002_simple.gcs rh.aparc.annot
> reading atlas from /freesurfer/average/rh.atlas2002_simple.gcs...
> reading color table from GCSA file
> input 1: CURVATURE FILE, flags 0, avgs 0, name sulc
> input 0: MEAN CURVATURE, flags 0, avgs 5, name mean_curvature
> labeling surface...
> relabeling using gibbs priors...
> 000:   9230 changed, 125897 examined...
> 001:   2224 changed, 34779 examined...
> 002:681 changed, 11344 examined...
> 003:275 changed, 3817 examined...
> 004:160 changed, 1602 examined...
> 005: 76 changed, 937 examined...
> 006: 31 changed, 434 examined...
> 007: 18 changed, 193 examined...
> 008: 15 changed, 103 examined...
> 009:  7 changed, 86 examined...
> 010:  2 changed, 46 examined...
> 011:  3 changed, 16 examined...
> 012:  0 changed, 10 examined...
> 000: 286 total segments, 189 labels (2604 vertices) changed
> 001: 107 total segments, 12 labels (195 vertices) changed
> 002: 95 total segments, 0 labels (0 vertices) changed
> 10 filter iterations complete (10 requested, 121 changed)
> writing output to rh.aparc.annot...
> could not write annot file
> /home/wolosin/subjects/dec1877J_prac/surf/../label/rh .aparc.annot
> No such file or directory
> mris_ca_label: could not write annot file rh.aparc.annot for
> dec1877J_prac
> No such file or directory
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] surf]$
>
> Sasha Wolosin
> Research Assistant
> Developmental Cognitive Neurology
> Kennedy Krieger Institute
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> Baltimore, MD 21205
> ph: (443) 923-9270
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Re: [Freesurfer] help with mris_ca_label

2005-11-02 Thread Bruce Fischl

no. The mksubjdirs script should create a label dir.

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005, 
Sasha Wolosin wrote:



thanks, I created a label directory and that solved the problem.  It
looks like all our subjects are missing a label directory.  Do you know
why that might happen?

Sasha Wolosin
Research Assistant
Developmental Cognitive Neurology
Kennedy Krieger Institute
707 N. Broadway
Baltimore, MD 21205
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Bruce Fischl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/02/05 1:46 PM >>>

Hi Sasha,

it gets written into the label dir by default. Are you sure that
directory exists (should be at the same level as surf)

Bruce
On Wed, 2 Nov 2005,
Sasha Wolosin wrote:


I'm having trouble specifying the output file when running
mris_ca_label- should it be in the surf folder or somewhere else?
(output below)
Thanks,
Sasha

[EMAIL PROTECTED] surf]$ pwd
/home/wolosin/subjects/dec1877J_prac/surf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] surf]$ mris_ca_label dec1877J_prac rh rh.sphere.reg
/freesurfer/ average/rh.atlas2002_simple.gcs rh.aparc.annot
reading atlas from /freesurfer/average/rh.atlas2002_simple.gcs...
reading color table from GCSA file
input 1: CURVATURE FILE, flags 0, avgs 0, name sulc
input 0: MEAN CURVATURE, flags 0, avgs 5, name mean_curvature
labeling surface...
relabeling using gibbs priors...
000:   9230 changed, 125897 examined...
001:   2224 changed, 34779 examined...
002:681 changed, 11344 examined...
003:275 changed, 3817 examined...
004:160 changed, 1602 examined...
005: 76 changed, 937 examined...
006: 31 changed, 434 examined...
007: 18 changed, 193 examined...
008: 15 changed, 103 examined...
009:  7 changed, 86 examined...
010:  2 changed, 46 examined...
011:  3 changed, 16 examined...
012:  0 changed, 10 examined...
000: 286 total segments, 189 labels (2604 vertices) changed
001: 107 total segments, 12 labels (195 vertices) changed
002: 95 total segments, 0 labels (0 vertices) changed
10 filter iterations complete (10 requested, 121 changed)
writing output to rh.aparc.annot...
could not write annot file
/home/wolosin/subjects/dec1877J_prac/surf/../label/rh .aparc.annot
No such file or directory
mris_ca_label: could not write annot file rh.aparc.annot for
dec1877J_prac
No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED] surf]$

Sasha Wolosin
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Developmental Cognitive Neurology
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[Freesurfer] (no subject)

2005-11-02 Thread Goldman, Aaron (NIH/NIMH)








Hi, I have a
script that basically opens up tksurfer and tkmedit for manual editing, and
then runs recon-all stage2 once you’re done editing. We recently tried to
run the script on a different computer with the same freesurfer distribution,
and got an error I’m not used to seeing.

 

It says:

 

WARNING: Couldn't
not load orig volume from ///surf/../mri/orig.mgz


Talairach coords will be incorrect.

 

(the ‘’
was edited in by me)

 

I was just
wondering if this error will create problems, either with correct manual
editing or with running stage2. Thanks,

 

-Aaron-

 

 

Aaron L. Goldman

Post-Bacc IRTA

Genes, Cognition and Psychosis Program,
NIMH

Building 10, Room 3C108

Phone: (301) 435-0944

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[Freesurfer] Re: Freesurfer Digest, Vol 21, Issue 3

2005-11-02 Thread Sasha Wolosin
Regarding this issue with the old version of mris_anatomical_stats, will
problems with rh.area effect any of the other results?  Or are there any
bugs effecting other anatomical stats besides rh.area?

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Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 12:58:06 -0500
From: Doug Greve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] area file
To: Marie Schaer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
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We found a problem with this computation about a year ago (11/12/2004 to
be specific). I think I sent an email about it to the list. Any releases
prior to that date will have this error in the area computations. Can
you try it with a more recent release?


Sasha Wolosin
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Developmental Cognitive Neurology
Kennedy Krieger Institute
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Re: [Freesurfer] (no subject)

2005-11-02 Thread Evelina Busa


Hi Aaron,

First, is it something simple and annoying like that your script doesn't 
look for an orig.mgz volume (vs. the 'orig' which was standard until fairly 
recently)?  I have needed to edit my scripts to accommodate for this.


okay!


On Wed, 2 Nov 2005, Goldman, Aaron (NIH/NIMH) wrote:


Hi, I have a script that basically opens up tksurfer and tkmedit for manual 
editing, and then runs recon-all stage2 once you're done editing. We recently 
tried to run the script on a different computer with the same freesurfer 
distribution, and got an error I'm not used to seeing.



It says:



WARNING: Couldn't not load orig volume from ///surf/../mri/orig.mgz

Talairach coords will be incorrect.



(the '' was edited in by me)



I was just wondering if this error will create problems, either with correct 
manual editing or with running stage2. Thanks,



-Aaron-





Aaron L. Goldman

Post-Bacc IRTA

Genes, Cognition and Psychosis Program, NIMH

Building 10, Room 3C108

Phone: (301) 435-0944

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]






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[Freesurfer] freesurfer + fsl

2005-11-02 Thread Peter Soros

Hi All,

I have installed Freesurfer for Mac OS X (2 Oct 2005) on my system  
(running 10.4.2) - thanks for the OS X release!


Unfortunately, fsl doesn't work after the installation of Freesurfer.

This is the error message I get when I try to open the fsl GUI:

 Error in startup script: no suitable image found.  Did find:
/Applications/freesurfer/lib/tcltktixblt/lib/ 
libtix8.1.8.4.a: unknown fi

le type, first eight bytes: 0x21 0x3C 0x61 0x72 0x63 0x68 0x3E 0x0A
while executing
"load /Applications/freesurfer/lib/tcltktixblt/lib/libtix8.1.8.4.a Tix"
("package ifneeded" script)
invoked from within
"package require Tix"
invoked from within
"if { [ string first tclsh [ file tail [ info nameofexecutable ] ] ] ! 
= 0 } {

package require Tix
tix configure -scheme TixGray
option add ..."
(file "/usr/local/fsl/tcl/fslstart.tcl" line 3)
invoked from within
"source [ file dirname [ info script ] ]/fslstart.tcl"
(file "/usr/local/fsl/tcl/fsl.tcl" line 71)
invoked from within
"source ${FSLDIR}/tcl/${origname}.tcl"
(file "/usr/local/fsl/bin/fsl" line 19)

FSL was installed in the recommended directory /usr/local/fsl/ and  
worked well before.


Any help to get FSL working again is highly appreciated!!

Peter


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[Freesurfer] automated parcellation

2005-11-02 Thread Goulven Josse

Dear Freesurfers,

We have used the automated parcellation (Fischl et al, 2004) in several 
subjects and noticed in some cases labeling of the lateral part of a 
gyrus (i mean the part that's visible on the folded surface), as 
belonging to a sulcus. The example I have in mind is the labeling of a 
gyrus that could be the middle temporal or the angular gyrus as the 
posterior part of the superior temporal sulcus (STS). I figured the 
program could not find the correspondence between that particular gyrus 
and any labels and, since it happened to be close and, sometimes, 
between two branches of STS, it was labeled as such.


Or we made a mistake somewhere ... ?

Could anyone please comment on this ?

thanks !

Goulven Josse (U of Chicago)

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